[FairfieldLife] Disgust?

[cardemaister]

Shauca (purity) is one of the niyamas (YS II 32).
According to II 40

shaucaat svaanga-jugupsaa...

Taimni's translation:

From physical purity (arises) disgust for one's
own body...

How do you experience that (possible) disgust?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  
   Cool.
  
   As long as you're into semantics today, could you
   clear up these two quotes of yours for us as well?
  
  Barry, do you realize you're double and even triple 
  posting, a lot?

I didn't. I'm really pressing the Send key only
once, but I'm On The Road, posting from a cafe
using its WiFi connection. Let me know if this
one appears more than once, Ok. On the FFL Web
viewer, I've been seeing only one copy of each
post made yesterday. Then again, one of them
never appeared at all, and was sent directly
to the moderators instead. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
 wrote:
 
  On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  
   Cool.
  
   As long as you're into semantics today, could you
   clear up these two quotes of yours for us as well?
  
  Barry, do you realize you're double and even triple posting, a lot?

 Not on the FFL website...maybe a server issue?

I just checked here at the cafe, and it seems
that my computer logged me in to not just the 
cafe's free WiFi connection, but *also* to a 
couple of unsecured connections from apartments
in the vicinity. So it looks as if posts that 
I sent yesterday went out once to the server/
FFL Web viewer, but multiple times to the folks
who read the list via email. Sorry. I think
I've corrected it now.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
 willytex@ wrote:
 
  peterklutz wrote:
I left, that's what happened. 
   
  sparaig wrote:
   And one or more pro-TMers, including MUM faculty, who are 
   completely embarrassed by your behavior there.
  
  Well, I'm embarrased by almost all pro-TMers, as well as anti-TMer
  behavior on the Internet. Barry certainly has a good point - you guys
  suck as informers. You may be the exception. 
  
  But nobody has ever answered my question about being on the TM program
  and posting insider information to newsgroups. I don't think Maharishi
  would approve of that, even on Wikipedia. So, that's my point.
 
 See last answer.
 
  It's absurd to use the term TMer - it's meaningless. 
 
 Take 2: A TMer is a person who has learnt and regularly practices TM
 as taught by His Holiness MMY. Period.
 
 [snip]
 
  But what is strange is that there are some libelous archives on this
  forum concerning the Maharishi's private sex life. I would think that
  any pro-TMer, if they are really on the program, would object to that.
  
  If any of you TMers had any real convictions, you'd use Usenet instead
  of this proprietary forum. I'd say that almost all of the respondents
  here have all been kicked off the program by now. Go figure.
 
 
 Are you drunk? 
 
 Maybe you're just a lazy as your drawl is Texan. Before passing
 judgement on people, get your facts straight re who has said what. 
 
 The fact is that you and I are on the same side when it comes to MMY
 (unless there are skeletons in your closet I am not aware of).
 
 That is also the reason your pencil-dicked friend Sparaig is so
 hysterical and keeps returning to Peter Klutz' Wiki-period: for
 Peter's objecting through editing to the systematic MMY/TMO slandering
 at Wiki. 
 
 You see, sparaig is an hypocrite who feels form is more important than
 content. He would rather see the TMO's founder accused of pedophilia
 than himself fall out of any imaginary grace with the inquisition at
 Wikipedia.
 
 Sparaig is also a coward since he rather stab TMers in their backs
 rather than to speak up against the rouge anti-TM disinformers out
there.
 
 With friends like Sparaig - who needs enemies?


Great stuff today, Peter...at this rate you may 
have the next issue of THINGS TMers BELIEVE almost 
to yourself.  :-)

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Central U recruiting faculty for Sept 2007 semester

[llundrub]

--Looking at any previous MIU/TMO faculty/Alumni? Ex-TM Teacher, it is
assured that John as well will be cast off like a candy wrapper just as
everyone else, as soon as he is used up. In  TMO you're only as good as your
last meditation. When the technique wears off you're basically totally
fucked to the degree that it put a spell on you. (But one can actually say
these same things about everything, for example, one's job, which casts one
off when they cease to work, or ones lover, ones best friends even will cast
one off as soon as it's inconvenient, so for anything, you're as fucked as
the spell it put on you, in duality.)( In unity, that's a good thing as one
likes fucking.)Should I put that is a unity chart for you. Fucking. Fucking
outrageous. In CC Two fuck. Brahman. One moves around within their own fuck,
so fuck them too. 

Kirk say, we all totally fucked, since not one of us not. 

Whatcha gonna do when that spell wears off?

All meaning is spontaneously self arising. 

Whatcha gonna do when the prop for your meaning runs out of steam? 

Should you save up meaning for the final day or should you let it all go? 

(Oh I'm so sorry for my language

-fuck me!)

-Original Message-
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:29 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Central U recruiting faculty for Sept 2007
semester

Hagelin could care less what happens in reality, as long he is the 
 star in his virtual world, and now he's got his own school of which 
 he is president, just like chubby over there in Fairfield.

Really,  I think you have to be concerned about John at this point.  
My thumbnail analysis:  He is approaching 60 yrs of age.  He doesn't 
have anything to show for his efforts, so he concocts this grandiose, 
over the top vision which has no chance of getting past the fantasy 
stage.  I say this because I know others who devoted their career 
building years with TMO, and now, having left the organization, they 
find themselves on the periphery of business or professional life, and 
they have a hard time dealing with it.

lurk






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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[llundrub]

It's really true, MMY has shown us techniques for speeding enhanced
awareness, he can't do them for us. We are free to take as much or little,
in either the TMO or some allied organization. I know I have benefitted
greatly from Vedic techniques which MMY has touted, though not many of them
his at this point, that is besides the point, in the interdependence of all
things MMY's addition is Vedic and Impersonal. Vedic is to say God, and we
all know that pretty much every god fearing worshipper is somehow a total
hypocrite just as Jesus worshippers get blood lust whenever they hear of a
righteous war. Your God is the source of your bloodlust plain and simple,
and nothing else. Of course the problem is not the god but how the internal
interaction with God is self-filtered through human idiocy, and hence the
devas decome devils and Ahura Mazda becomes the asura. Because humans drink
tequila until they puke and then blame the tequila. Until one becomes a
tantric and it all just becomes calories.

-Original Message-
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jim_flanegin
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:53 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Looking over this list now, how late did it run?  Evidently from 
the 
  1960's into the 1980's?  Any more names to add to the timeline?
  
 Yes. Joyce-Collin-Smith, who was MMY's personal secretary when he was
 based in London in the early and mid 60's wrote that MMY went from an
 essentially open door policy at the London center where he lived to
 locking his door in the afternoons, closeted alone with one young
 woman or another. He had departed from the Holy Tradition of his
 Masters as worldly needs had gradually got a hold on him.

There's an interesting linkage that many people are making between 
what Maharishi has or has not done, and what that might mean relative 
to the knowledge that he has brought out. Did he have sex even though 
he says he doesn't? Did he covet money even though he claims to be a 
monk who owns nothing? Is he a power monger although he professes to 
love everyone? And the 500 pound gorilla in the room is the possible 
impact these ambiguities have on the knowledge he has taught and 
spread. Otherwise, who cares?

The cool thing about all this as I see it is that each of those 
sticking points- the sex, the money and the power- are all vague 
enough in their evidence and any definitive answers as to allow near 
endless debate on each topic, leaving the ultimate decision regarding 
the validity of the knowledge Maharishi has brought out to the world 
up to each of us. 

There is no foundation on which to base a decision save the enjoyment 
or not each of us feels relative to the knowledge Maharishi has 
brought out. By pondering the events in his life, it brings us closer 
to examining the knowledge he has brought out. If he had been perfect, 
without any taint of conflict in his life, perhaps those near him 
would not have dived so deeply into the knowledge he brought out. Who 
knows?

Maharishi has not only taught the technique of Transcendental 
Meditation, he IS Transcendental Meditation, literally. Talk about 
walking the talk. Pretty trippy stuff.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

[nablusoss1008]

 
 I didn't. I'm really pressing the Send key only
 once, but I'm On The Road, posting from a cafe
 using its WiFi connection. Let me know if this
 one appears more than once, Ok. On the FFL Web
 viewer, I've been seeing only one copy of each
 post made yesterday. Then again, one of them
 never appeared at all, and was sent directly
 to the moderators instead. Go figure.

We did not get some of your postings ? Oh' dear, what a great loss for 
us.  haha

[FairfieldLife] Grazing occultation of Saturn

[Vaj]

Imagine seeing this clearly!

http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/occultations/occultation-composite- 
single_800.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Zero G

[Vaj]

Another reason to go to Las Vegas

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1808925740998663902pr=goog-sl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Zero G

[Vaj]

http://snipurl.com/1d1ox

On Mar 15, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Vaj wrote:


Another reason to go to Las Vegas

http://video.google.com/videoplay? 
docid=-1808925740998663902pr=goog-sl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Grazing occultation of Saturn

[Vaj]

http://snipurl.com/1d1oz

On Mar 15, 2007, at 7:41 AM, Vaj wrote:


Imagine seeing this clearly!

http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/occultations/occultation-composite-
single_800.jpg

RE: [FairfieldLife] fairfield after maharishi's death

[llundrub]

Naw, if FF lived due to being near something of natural value, then you all
would have seen how Hollywood vs. Beverly Hills was born, as all things.

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rick Archer
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:57 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] fairfield after maharishi's death

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bhairitu
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:45 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] fairfield after maharishi's death

 

From a friend who recently moved back to Fairfield I hear that the 
true believers have moved to Vedic City so Fairfield itself is more 
normal folks or Sonoma in the cornfields as I call it. :)

 I have heard that the MVC folks look down their noses at the MUM crowd, who
in turn look down their noses at those of us south of the tracks. But that's
a generalization of course.

 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:51 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

 

new.morning wrote:
 And you didn't ask What did you know and when did you know it? :)

No mention of Tom Anderson on your list and no mention by Tom Anderson
of any Girls at TTC, Majorrca on Usenet. Also there doesnt' seem to
be any mention by Tom on TMFree Blog about any Girls at TTC. 

I'm with Lawson on this one - it would not make any sense for MMY to
be celibate for 46 years, and then not celibate for two weeks, and
then celibate till age 90. 

Who said anything about two weeks? The alleged affairs span a number of
years. From the early 60's, according to Joyce Collin-Smith
(http://www.authorsonline.co.uk/book/Call%20No%20Man%20Master/) 'till La
Antilla, about a decade later.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:51 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
 
  
 
 new.morning wrote:
  And you didn't ask What did you know and when did you know it? :)
 
 No mention of Tom Anderson on your list and no mention by Tom Anderson
 of any Girls at TTC, Majorrca on Usenet. Also there doesnt' seem to
 be any mention by Tom on TMFree Blog about any Girls at TTC. 
 
 I'm with Lawson on this one - it would not make any sense for MMY to
 be celibate for 46 years, and then not celibate for two weeks, and
 then celibate till age 90. 
 
 Who said anything about two weeks? The alleged affairs span a number of
 years. From the early 60's, according to Joyce Collin-Smith
 (http://www.authorsonline.co.uk/book/Call%20No%20Man%20Master/) 'till La
 Antilla, about a decade later.


EVen so, it's decidedly odd behavior: celibate (one assumes) for a good long 
while 
voluntarily, then not, then again.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak 
  geezerfreak@ wrote:
snip
   Obviously this topic upsets you and a few others.
   Fine. Don't worry about it. Keep your idol worship
   of MMY as pure as you like. Whatever makes you feel
   good Tex.
  
  Somebody clue geezerfreak in...
  
 Wanna take a crack at clueing me in Judith?

Willytex lives under a bridge.






  I mean,
 why sleep, when you can post? You're on the east coast right?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[curtisdeltablues]

 EVen so, it's decidedly odd behavior: celibate (one assumes) for a
good long while 
 voluntarily, then not, then again.

I'm sure we have no idea what monkey business MMY was up to.  Remember
that hot little number in Hermit in the House who came over and
immediately took over the wifely duties of cooking and cleaning for him?

As far as people trying to keep young willy in time out, I think
quite a few posters here gave it a whirl for extended (no pun
intended) periods, only to decide that they must free willy (pun
intended)!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
  Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:51 PM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
  
   
  
  new.morning wrote:
   And you didn't ask What did you know and when did you know it? :)
  
  No mention of Tom Anderson on your list and no mention by Tom Anderson
  of any Girls at TTC, Majorrca on Usenet. Also there doesnt' seem to
  be any mention by Tom on TMFree Blog about any Girls at TTC. 
  
  I'm with Lawson on this one - it would not make any sense for MMY to
  be celibate for 46 years, and then not celibate for two weeks, and
  then celibate till age 90. 
  
  Who said anything about two weeks? The alleged affairs span a
number of
  years. From the early 60's, according to Joyce Collin-Smith
  (http://www.authorsonline.co.uk/book/Call%20No%20Man%20Master/)
'till La
  Antilla, about a decade later.
 
 
 EVen so, it's decidedly odd behavior: celibate (one assumes) for a
good long while 
 voluntarily, then not, then again.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

would knee jerk call them crazy, possessed by Rakshasas,
unstressing...whatever it took to keep your idol pure.
 
 Since when did sex make anyone unpure ? 

Only the really, really good kind. (ball gags optionional)

You are unfortunately just 
 obsessed by the topic.


I think that is called being a guy. (and any chick I would care to
hang out with)

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[llundrub]

If you know any 'chicks' who aren't sea hags ;)


You are unfortunately just 
 obsessed by the topic.


I think that is called being a guy. (and any chick I would care to
hang out with)




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Central U recruiting faculty for Sept 2007 semester

[Sal Sunshine]

On Mar 14, 2007, at 11:14 PM, bob_brigante wrote:


Fer sure, but he's a needy guy, an inadequate personality, and this
feeling of being important by being president, president of anything,
rocks his boat.


Even president of a school nobody wants to attend?  Seems to me that in 
the long run that would just increase his negative self-image.


Sal

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi tells how he instituted a fee to learn meditation

[Paul Mason]

http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2007/03/maharishi-tells-how-he-instituted-
fee.html
http://tmfree.blogspot.com/index.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

[Sal Sunshine]

On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:27 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Barry, do you realize you're double and even triple
posting, a lot?


I didn't. I'm really pressing the Send key only
once, but I'm On The Road, posting from a cafe
using its WiFi connection. Let me know if this
one appears more than once, Ok. On the FFL Web
viewer, I've been seeing only one copy of each
post made yesterday. Then again, one of them
never appeared at all, and was sent directly
to the moderators instead. Go figure.


This and the one following are fine.  Hopefully the problem, whatever 
it was, is resolved.  Thanks.


Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

[Sal Sunshine]

On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:29 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


I just checked here at the cafe, and it seems
that my computer logged me in to not just the
cafe's free WiFi connection, but *also* to a
couple of unsecured connections from apartments
in the vicinity. So it looks as if posts that
I sent yesterday went out once to the server/
FFL Web viewer, but multiple times to the folks
who read the list via email. Sorry. I think
I've corrected it now.


Great.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Conscious universe?

[authfriend]

On his blog The Daily Dish, Andrew Sullivan posts
an email from a reader who is doing research on
supranormal human experience for an article in
Discover magazine. In connection with Sullivan's
dialogue with Sam Harris, the reader summarizes
the recent work of physicist/mathematician Roger
Penrose and his colleague anesthesiologist Stuart
Hameroff (which Lawson has mentioned here a few
times, as I recall).

Excerpt:


Together, Penrose and Hameroff have developed a theory of 
consciousness called ORCH OR (Orchestrated Objective Eduction of 
Quantum Coherence in Brain Microtubules) which posits that 
consciousness occurs not at the neuronal level in the brain, and 
not in algorithmic processes mimicking on a grand scale the way 
computers work, but at the sub-neuronal level, in the microtubles 
(crystal-like lattice structures that help organize cell structures 
and enable information processing)  in which quantum processing 
interacts with classical physics. It's that intersect, between 
classical and quantum physics, to drastically over-simplify the 
Penrose/Hameroff model, that provides the global binding necessary 
to consciousness. 

Why is this interesting? Two reasons: because it suggests that the 
brain functions not like a computer but in a non-computable (i.e. non-
reproducible by artificial means) way, and because Penrose goes 
further, and theorizes a stable set of Platonic ideal structures 
residing at the very lowest energy level of the Planck scale (where 
quantum gravity, whatever that is, would be strongest), which inform 
and influence at least our unconscious minds. Because quantum 
mechanics allows for non-local patterns, and because these non-local 
patterns repeat everywhere, the implication is that the universe is 
in some way conscious, and that we are part of that consciousness. 

Read the whole post at:
http://tinyurl.com/29dvyx

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[curtisdeltablues]

Le Bon Temps Roule my brother.



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 If you know any 'chicks' who aren't sea hags ;)
 
 
 You are unfortunately just 
  obsessed by the topic.
 
 
 I think that is called being a guy. (and any chick I would care to
 hang out with)
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Newspapers call for Gonzales's head

[Richard J. Williams]

  Well, then Spector is either a liar or a fool who 
  can't even read! And to think we pay people like 
  this to work three days a week. Go figure. 
 
jstein wrote: 
 As you know, Specter never said he wrote it.
 
As you know, Specter said he hadn't even read it. And to think we pay
people like this to work three days a week.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newspapers call for Gonzales's head

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Well, then Spector is either a liar or a fool who 
   can't even read! And to think we pay people like 
   this to work three days a week. Go figure. 
  
 jstein wrote: 
  As you know, Specter never said he wrote it.
  
 As you know, Specter said he hadn't even read it.

You, on the other hand, said he had *written* it:

Apparently Bush can replace the fired attorneys - he doesn't
need the approval of Congress, according to Arlen Spector, the
author of the provision in the U.S.A. Patriot Act.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[Richard J. Williams]

peterklutz wrote:
  That is also the reason your pencil-dicked friend 
  Sparaig...
 
TurquoiseB wrote: 
 Great stuff today, Peter...at this rate you may 
 have the next issue of THINGS TMers BELIEVE almost 
 to yourself.  :-)

What a great newsforum - no rules against smearing the Mahesh here!
But what was Peter doing inside Lawson's pants? I thought this was a
family forum. 

As you know, I spent several years following Trungpa around Boulder
and New Mexico, so I'm used to gurus and their girlfriends, but to
hear some of these informers, this guy Maheh is just AWESOME! 

Apparently Mahesh had numerous skin boys, numerous boy
secretaries, and numerous girlfirends, all on TTC and all vying
for his attention at the same time. 

And to hear these guys tell it, Mahesh was so full of sexual energy
that he called girls in at all hours of the night to have sex, even at
3:00 AM in the morning, after the skin boys and boy secretaries were
so worn out that they had to get some much needed sleep. Man, I wish I
had that kind of energy when I was fifty years old. I am very impressed.

Apparently this Mahesh fellow ran circles around Conny Larsen, Ned
Wynn and Billy Clayton - they couldn't keep up, they were so exhausted
after meditating in a Lazy Boy recliner all day.

Chogyam Trungpa or Fred Lentz can't hold a candle to this Mahesh. This
guy Mahesh was just AWESOME! And the skin boys, who apparently were
sleeping just outside an unlocked door, never even suspected a thing.
Go figure.

There was a certain wide-eyed, fair-skinned type of girl to whom the
dark-skinned Indian is frequently attracted. - Joyce Colin-Smith

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[Richard J. Williams]

  Tom made TMO status claims and said at one point
  that he spent months inside Maharishi's room on TTC.
 
geezerfreak wrote: 
 No he didn't. 

Yeah, Tom Anderson (Sudarsha) sure has the inside scoop on Mahesh and
his private sex life.

On my TTC I caught Mahesh in a lie. - Sudarsha

http://www2.blogger.com/profile/03511312072502963196

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There was a certain wide-eyed, fair-skinned type of girl to whom the
 dark-skinned Indian is frequently attracted. - Joyce Colin-Smith

So the issue seems to be for some:
1. If someone says they don't have sex, and then possibly does have 
sex but doesn't tell anyone about it, or possibly lies about it, does 
that make everything else they say, suspect?
2. Does this only apply to spiritual teachers, or everyone?
3. Is it fair to throw out all of the spiritual teacher's knowledge on 
the basis of a suspected lie?

Answering each of these questions for each of us gets to the root of 
how we set up our value system, how well we know ourselves, and on 
what basis we know anything at all.  

[FairfieldLife] Check out Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence

[Rick Archer]

DORE'S ARGUMENT
(1) I forgot to take my meds.
(2) Therefore, I AM CHRIST!!
(3) Therefore, God exists.

 

 

ARGUMENT FROM MANIFESTATIONS
(1) If you turn your head sideways and squint a little, you can see an image
of a bearded face in that tortilla.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

 

#551 is pretty good too!

 

Hundreds http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm  of Proofs of
God's Existence 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Tom made TMO status claims and said at one point
   that he spent months inside Maharishi's room on TTC.
  
 geezerfreak wrote: 
  No he didn't. 
 
 Yeah, Tom Anderson (Sudarsha) sure has the inside scoop on Mahesh and
 his private sex life.
 
 On my TTC I caught Mahesh in a lie. - Sudarsha
 
 http://www2.blogger.com/profile/03511312072502963196

Why does Tom Anderson call himself Sudarsha? Why take a name other 
than our birth name? What's the importance to the individual of doing 
so?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[Richard J. Williams]

 I'm with Lawson on this one - it would not make any sense 
 for MMY to be celibate for 46 years, and then not celibate 
 for two weeks, and then celibate till age 90. 

Rick Archer wrote: 
 Who said anything about two weeks? The alleged affairs span 
 a number of years. From the early 60's, according to Joyce
 Collin-Smith 'till La Antilla, about a decade later.

So, Rick, in decades, nobody actually saw Mahesh with his pants down,
even though the door to his room was unlocked with skin boy Conny
Larsen and Ms Pittman right outside the door, and with girls going in
and out of the room at all hours of the night, right in the middle of
TTC with hundreds of TMers hanging on Mahesh's every move and word.
That Mhesh has really got some POWER - he must have accomplished the
invisible technique at a very early age. Maybe the informers like Ned
and Conny were too busy getting their own sex to even notice what
Mahesh was doing. Go figure.

The guy has absolutely no style, no class. He's the classic backward
Dravidian reactionary, sexually repressed, greedy, hypocritical, and a
bald-faced liar. - Ned Wynn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Check out Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence

[jim_flanegin]

Good find! Why argue at all about it? To argue about it is proof God 
does NOT exist, because the 'proof' that he does is then dependent 
on winning the argument.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DORE'S ARGUMENT
 (1) I forgot to take my meds.
 (2) Therefore, I AM CHRIST!!
 (3) Therefore, God exists.
 
  
 
  
 
 ARGUMENT FROM MANIFESTATIONS
 (1) If you turn your head sideways and squint a little, you can 
see an image
 of a bearded face in that tortilla.
 (2) Therefore, God exists.
 
  
 
 #551 is pretty good too!
 
  
 
 Hundreds http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm  of 
Proofs of
 God's Existence

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[Richard J. Williams]

curtis wrote: 
 I'm sure we have no idea what monkey business MMY was up to.

Can't you even read, Curtis? Rick is the rascal who posted the sex
rumors here for you to read, obviously in a feeble attempt to libel
and smear Mahesh. But it would seem that Amma doesn't even have a
yoni. Go figure. 

Maybe it's just me, but this isn't the kind of information I'd
expect to see on a family forum on Yahoo! I'm surprised that this
forum hasn't been relegated to XXX status in the Groups directory.
What I can't understand is why the pro-TMers are still posting here.

Excerpts from email conversations between former personal secretaries
Rob McCutchean, Ned Wynn, and Casey Coleman, are sprinkled throughout
the following text:

'Sex  the Single Guru'
http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2007/01/sex-single-guru-really-long.html

Oh! So, now Ned Wynn has been elevated to personal secretary status,
but in his book, 'I Will Always Live in Beverly Hills', Ned writes
that he carried Mahesh's skin ONE SINGLE TIME for about three minutes.
Go figure. But Tom Anderson, who claims to have been Mahesh's personal
secretary for two years, doesn't seem to know one single thing about
any Mahesh sexual activities with students. Someone is lying on this
forum.

Question:

So, why didn't Mahesh just appoint the girls to be his personal
secretary and tell the boys to go jerk off in their rooms? Ned Wynn
didn't seem to have a problem with that at the time and Conny Larsen
seems to have found his own skin boy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[Richard J. Williams]

curtis wrote:
 Only the really, really good kind. (ball gags optionional)
 
Very impressive, Curtis.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Progressing Transcendentalism

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of dhamiltony2k5
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 8:33 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Progressing Transcendentalism

 


Most people i know attending the Domes in FF for group meditation 
there are doing way more than the TM practice as they do it. Someone 
sent me this paste below after i posted this above. Kind of shows 
the advancement of things here with people and their experience with 
it otherwise:



I know people who are in the domes and aren't even doing TM. They're doing
Course in Miracles meditation, or whatever, and getting paid to be there.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[Richard J. Williams]

  Wanna take a crack at clueing me in Judith?
 
jstein wrote: 
 Willytex lives under a bridge.

Which one?
 
Very impressive, Judith, for a gal that once recommended that the
entire Bush administration be jailed and then shot without a trial.
Now maybe Barry can dedicate a whole post to What TMer Judith
Believes - keep up the good work.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newspapers call for Gonzales's head

[Richard J. Williams]

 Apparently Bush can replace the fired attorneys - he 
 doesn't need the approval of Congress, according to 
 Arlen Spector, the author of the provision in the 
 U.S.A. Patriot Act.

Richard J. Williams wrote:
  As you know, Specter said he hadn't even read it.
 
jstein wrote:
 You, on the other hand, said he had *written* it:

Well, somebody wrote it - but you'd expect that Arlen Specter would
have at least read the U.S.A. Patriot Act. Is this what we pay
congressmen to do - work three days a week and waste the taxpayers
hard-earned money by passing legislation that they don't even read? 

It was then-Chairman of the Senate Judicary Committee, Senator Arlen
Specter who technically added the provision expanding executive power.

'Attorney Firings: What the White House Wanted to do, But Didn't'
By Aziz Huq
Huffington Post, Wednesday March 14, 2007
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20070314/cm_huffpost/043401

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 I'm with Lawson on this one - it would not make any sense for 
 MMY to be celibate for 46 years, and then not celibate for two 
 weeks, and then celibate till age 90. 
  
  Who said anything about two weeks? The alleged affairs span 
  a number of years. From the early 60's, according to Joyce 
  Collin-Smith
(http://www.authorsonline.co.uk/book/Call%20No%20Man%20Master/) 
  'till La Antilla, about a decade later.
 
 EVen so, it's decidedly odd behavior: celibate (one assumes) 
 for a good long while voluntarily, then not, then again.

Lawson, all I can say is that it sounds like you
have talked to as few theoretical celibates as
Judy has talked to homeless people. If you'd
spent any time around them (Buddhist monks, Hindu
monks, Catholic priests and nuns, etc.) you'd know
that THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENS. Celibate for years
or decades, and then bam! -- screw yer brains out
for a while, then back to celibate for a few years
or decades, and then bam! again. It's just how 
things work in the real world (as opposed to the
fantasy world that people who have never *lived*
that lifestyle dream up about it). 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:29 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  I just checked here at the cafe, and it seems
  that my computer logged me in to not just the
  cafe's free WiFi connection, but *also* to a
  couple of unsecured connections from apartments
  in the vicinity. So it looks as if posts that
  I sent yesterday went out once to the server/
  FFL Web viewer, but multiple times to the folks
  who read the list via email. Sorry. I think
  I've corrected it now.
 
 Great.

Windoze. If you connect to a WiFi site once 
and then don't disconnect manually, Windoze
marks that site as 'Automatic' and then tries
to log you in again without telling you next
time you're near it. I hadn't encountered this
problem before, but now am hip to it. Thanks
for letting me know about the multiple posts;
I wasn't seeing them on the FFL Web viewer,
and probably wouldn't have known about them
if you hadn't mentioned it.

[FairfieldLife] 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[Bhairitu]

9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has also confessed to masterminding:
Hurricane Katrina
The Indonesian Tsunami
The Loma Prieta Earthquake
The Riverside Earthquake

Who could have imagined that this guy who looks like a derelict  off 
skid row could be the greatest criminal mastermind of all time.

BTW, here's a great opportunity: Brooklyn Bridge is available for sale.

Oh and also I heard he masterminded the trouble Alberto Gonzales is in. :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressing Transcendentalism

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know people who are in the domes and aren't even doing TM. 
 They're doing Course in Miracles meditation, or whatever, 
 and getting paid to be there.

That's probably what caused the stock market drop
and the snowstorm.

:-)

Just thought I'd say it before some TB did. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Wanna take a crack at clueing me in Judith?
  
 jstein wrote: 
  Willytex lives under a bridge.
 
 Which one?
  
 Very impressive, Judith, for a gal that once recommended that the
 entire Bush administration be jailed and then shot without a trial.
 Now maybe Barry can dedicate a whole post to What TMer Judith
 Believes - keep up the good work.

Have no fear. The bridge comment will be in the next issue.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[Richard J. Williams]

  There was a certain wide-eyed, fair-skinned type of 
  girl to whom the dark-skinned Indian is frequently 
  attracted. - Joyce Colin-Smith
 
jim flanegin wrote:
 Answering each of these questions for each of us gets to 
 the root of how we set up our value system, how well we 
 know ourselves, and on what basis we know anything at all.

Well, Jim, welcome to the group - you seem to be getting it. What you
don't seem to be getting is that this group is filled with hypocrites.

The root of the problem is that there are some ankle-biting pundits
who like to discuss other people's private sex life, or lack thereof.  

What you don't seem to get is that this is a Maharish-bashing forum.
But to you, Barry is your enemy, yet he's never even made a comment,
that I can recall, discussing the Maharishi's private sex life.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Lawson, all I can say is that it sounds like you
 have talked to as few theoretical celibates as
 Judy has talked to homeless people.

Just for the record, if Lawson has spoken to as
many celibates as I have to homeless people, that
would mean he has spoken to several dozen.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  Lawson, all I can say is that it sounds like you
  have talked to as few theoretical celibates as
  Judy has talked to homeless people.
 
 Just for the record, if Lawson has spoken to as
 many celibates as I have to homeless people, that
 would mean he has spoken to several dozen.

Sod off only counts as talking to them
in your world, Judy. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has also confessed to 
masterminding:
 Hurricane Katrina
 The Indonesian Tsunami
 The Loma Prieta Earthquake
 The Riverside Earthquake
 
 Who could have imagined that this guy who looks like a derelict  off 
 skid row could be the greatest criminal mastermind of all time.
 
 BTW, here's a great opportunity: Brooklyn Bridge is available for 
sale.
 
 Oh and also I heard he masterminded the trouble Alberto Gonzales is 
in. :)

This fellow has been an american prisoner for years, enough time for 
them to produce confessions using drugs and hypnosis. The poor fellow 
will by now be completely convinced he did this. Just like they 
convinced Saddams cousin that he was Saddam using the same methods. The 
Bush administration really needed this now to justify the Quantanamo 
and the torture going on there. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[Richard J. Williams]

  On my TTC I caught Mahesh in a lie. - Sudarsha
  
jim_flanegin wrote:
 Why does Tom Anderson call himself Sudarsha? 
 
Because he's an ankle-biting pundit?

 Why take a name other than our birth name?

It doesn't matter what you call yourself on newsforums, Jim - what's
important is what's posted. Judy has called my willytex for years,
when she knows full well what my name really is. That's fine with me,
if it makes her feel superior dehumanizing me for the purpose of
winning an argument.

 What's the importance to the individual of doing so?

To hide the fact that they're informers? If you knew who they were you
could try to get them fired from their job, like Steve Perino and John
Manning tried to do to me on Usenet. 

  http://www2.blogger.com/profile/03511312072502963196
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has also confessed to 
masterminding:
 Hurricane Katrina
 The Indonesian Tsunami
 The Loma Prieta Earthquake
 The Riverside Earthquake
 
 Who could have imagined that this guy who looks like a derelict  off 
 skid row could be the greatest criminal mastermind of all time.
 
 BTW, here's a great opportunity: Brooklyn Bridge is available for 
sale.
 
 Oh and also I heard he masterminded the trouble Alberto Gonzales is 
in. :)

My car battery died a few weeks ago. That bastard Khalid Sheik 
Mohammed did it! His exact words were, If you stop torturing me, I 
will confess to anything

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   There was a certain wide-eyed, fair-skinned type of 
   girl to whom the dark-skinned Indian is frequently 
   attracted. - Joyce Colin-Smith
  
 jim flanegin wrote:
  Answering each of these questions for each of us gets to 
  the root of how we set up our value system, how well we 
  know ourselves, and on what basis we know anything at all.
 
 Well, Jim, welcome to the group - you seem to be getting it. What 
you
 don't seem to be getting is that this group is filled with 
hypocrites.
 
 The root of the problem is that there are some ankle-biting pundits
 who like to discuss other people's private sex life, or lack 
thereof.  
 
 What you don't seem to get is that this is a Maharish-bashing 
forum.
 But to you, Barry is your enemy, yet he's never even made a 
comment,
 that I can recall, discussing the Maharishi's private sex life.

Yesterday's news...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   On my TTC I caught Mahesh in a lie. - Sudarsha
   
 jim_flanegin wrote:
  Why does Tom Anderson call himself Sudarsha? 
  
 Because he's an ankle-biting pundit?
 
  Why take a name other than our birth name?
 
 It doesn't matter what you call yourself on newsforums, Jim - 
what's
 important is what's posted. Judy has called my willytex for 
years,
 when she knows full well what my name really is. That's fine with 
me,
 if it makes her feel superior dehumanizing me for the purpose of
 winning an argument.
 
  What's the importance to the individual of doing so?
 
 To hide the fact that they're informers? If you knew who they were 
you
 could try to get them fired from their job, like Steve Perino and 
John
 Manning tried to do to me on Usenet. 
 
   http://www2.blogger.com/profile/03511312072502963196
  

Everyone apparently knows Sudarsha's real name, so there must be 
another reason for it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  snip
   Lawson, all I can say is that it sounds like you
   have talked to as few theoretical celibates as
   Judy has talked to homeless people.
  
  Just for the record, if Lawson has spoken to as
  many celibates as I have to homeless people, that
  would mean he has spoken to several dozen.
 
 Sod off only counts as talking to them
 in your world, Judy. :-)

Actually, I don't think I would have been allowed
to continue volunteering in the homeless shelter
had I ever said that to one of its clients.

[FairfieldLife] Re: fairfield after maharishi's death

[shucktipat]

All right Rick!

 It was probably my inability to deal with thinking like that in the 
 Movement, when, during the time I was being considered for TTC while 
 working on staff at the KC Capital of A of E, I strapped a boom box 
 over my shoulder, cranked it up, and refused to work for a few days. 
 Just needed to mess with the de-facto class system that had quietly 
 emerged, and free my head and heart for a little while. 
 
 (also lost interest in working for the Movement after that, though 
 it was probably more a case of 'you can't fire me, I quit'...)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[Richard J. Williams]

Bhairitu wrote:
 Oh and also I heard he masterminded the trouble 
 Alberto Gonzales is in. :)

If so, then at least he has read the U.S.A. Patriot Act, which is more
than I can say for you or Arlen Specter. According to my sources,
Saddam Hussien was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing; Paul is
dead but Elvis is alive and pumping gas at a Citgo down in La Grange,
Texas. :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[Richard J. Williams]

nablusoss1008 wrote:
 The Bush administration really needed this now to justify 
 the Quantanamo and the torture going on there.

Oh! So, the Sheikh Mohammed admitted to planning the 9/11 attacks, and
thirty others, and to cutting off the head of Mr. Perl, but Bush is
torturing innocent people at Quantanamo. Go figure.

A Pakistani national, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, has claimed he
masterminded the Sept 11 attacks on the United States and 30 other
terrorist attacks and plots around the world.

Full story:

'Pakistani terrorist claims he masterminded 9/11'
Times of India, March 15, 2007
http://tinyurl.com/23fn3a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[Richard J. Williams]

jstein wrote: 
   Willytex lives under a bridge.
  
  Very impressive, Judith, for a gal that once recommended that the
  entire Bush administration be jailed and then shot without a trial.
  Now maybe Barry can dedicate a whole post to What TMer Judith
  Believes - keep up the good work.
 
TurquoiseB wrote:
 The bridge comment will be in the next issue.

Don't forget to post it to Usenet so we can see who the trolls are!

Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: Judy Stein
Date: 6 Mar 2007 13:06:52
Subject: THINGS TMers BELIEVE, Volume I
http://tinyurl.com/2lz2gt

He's been getting some serious flak on FFL for his behavior.

[FairfieldLife] Re: fairfield after maharishi's death

[jim_flanegin]

That was me actually :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shucktipat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 All right Rick!
 
  It was probably my inability to deal with thinking like that in 
the 
  Movement, when, during the time I was being considered for TTC 
while 
  working on staff at the KC Capital of A of E, I strapped a boom 
box 
  over my shoulder, cranked it up, and refused to work for a few 
days. 
  Just needed to mess with the de-facto class system that had 
quietly 
  emerged, and free my head and heart for a little while. 
  
  (also lost interest in working for the Movement after that, 
though 
  it was probably more a case of 'you can't fire me, I quit'...)
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[Richard J. Williams]

jim flanegin wrote:
 His exact words were, If you stop torturing me, I 
 will confess to anything

In my opinion, Jim, torture would have been too good for the Shiek -
they should have just shot him between the eyes on the spot. Why waste
taxpayers money serving him steak and fries at Camp Gitmo? 

Come to think of it - why waste a good bullet? The coalition forces
should have just sent him over to your place so he could help you
replace your car battery.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[Richard J. Williams]

  But to you, Barry is your enemy, yet he's never even 
  made a comment, that I can recall, discussing the 
  Maharishi's private sex life.
 
jim flanegin wrote:
 Yesterday's news...

Wake up, Jim, and smell the coffee. Get out of here and get back on
the program, before your mind gets brainwashed more than it already
is, and you turn into an ankle-biting pundit yourself.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[Vaj]

On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:37 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Wanna take a crack at clueing me in Judith?


jstein wrote:

Willytex lives under a bridge.


Which one?

Very impressive, Judith, for a gal that once recommended that the
entire Bush administration be jailed and then shot without a trial.
Now maybe Barry can dedicate a whole post to What TMer Judith
Believes - keep up the good work.


Have no fear. The bridge comment will be in the next issue.



It's just her convoluted way of calling him a troll. It's a Judy  
joke. I almost smiled, you should too. :-|

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Progressing Transcendentalism

[Vaj]

On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

I know people who are in the domes and aren’t even doing TM.  
They’re doing Course in Miracles meditation, or whatever, and  
getting paid to be there.



I thought I sensed a disruption in the force!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:37 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
  willytex@ wrote:
 
  Wanna take a crack at clueing me in Judith?
 
  jstein wrote:
  Willytex lives under a bridge.
 
  Which one?
 
  Very impressive, Judith, for a gal that once recommended that the
  entire Bush administration be jailed and then shot without a 
trial.
  Now maybe Barry can dedicate a whole post to What TMer Judith
  Believes - keep up the good work.
 
  Have no fear. The bridge comment will be in the next issue.
 
 It's just her convoluted way of calling him a troll. It's a Judy  
 joke. I almost smiled, you should too. :-|

Hey, Vaj, you got something right for once (except
I'm not sure how convoluted it would be for most
people).

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jim flanegin wrote:
  His exact words were, If you stop torturing me, I 
  will confess to anything
 
 In my opinion, Jim, torture would have been too good for the Shiek -
 they should have just shot him between the eyes on the spot. Why 
waste
 taxpayers money serving him steak and fries at Camp Gitmo? 
 
 Come to think of it - why waste a good bullet? The coalition forces
 should have just sent him over to your place so he could help you
 replace your car battery.

Send your ideas to Bush- He will love them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   But to you, Barry is your enemy, yet he's never even 
   made a comment, that I can recall, discussing the 
   Maharishi's private sex life.
  
 jim flanegin wrote:
  Yesterday's news...
 
 Wake up, Jim, and smell the coffee. Get out of here and get back on
 the program, before your mind gets brainwashed more than it already
 is, and you turn into an ankle-biting pundit yourself.

I AM on the program. I meditate regularly 2x a day for 20 minutes; TM. 
It works for me.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Progressing Transcendentalism

[Sal Sunshine]

On Mar 15, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

I know people who are in the domes and aren’t even doing TM. They’re 
doing Course in Miracles meditation, or whatever, and getting paid to 
be there.


A few of the ones I know go there to sleep.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[Richard J. Williams]

jim flanegin wrote:
 Everyone apparently knows Sudarsha's real name, so there must be 
 another reason for it.

Well, Jim, I'd be willing to surmise that nobody knows that Sudarsha
is Tom Anderson on this group. His name isn't even on the list of
personal secretarys that administered to Maharishi at Spain TTC. 

From what I can tell, Tom must have been lying about being Maharishi's
personal secretary. Apparently the other secretarys didn't even know
him or never even heard of him, yet according to Tom, he was a very
high mukety-muck. 

Either way, it demonstrates that the skin boys, like the erstwhile Ned
and Conny, are really mixed up. The truth is that probably not a
single individual listed was ever even anywhere near the Maharishi at
TTC. And if they were, and didn't see anything like what's described
in the archives on this forum, then I'd say they are not even
skin-boys for a single minute. 

According to my sources, the Maharishi wasn't even in a hotel room at
TTC - he was flown in on a helicopter each day to give his talk in the
lobby and then he went back to Meru in Switzerland to be with Ms
Pittman. However, it's obvious that someone is doing some real lying
around here. For what purpose, I don't know.

Why don't you go over to TMFree Blog and ask Tom? He wouldn't answer
my questions and John Knapp deleted them. While you're over there, you
might ask Paul, Don, Gina, and Tom why, in over ten years of posting
Maharishi-bashing messages to the Internet, they never once mentioned
anything about Maharishi having sex with students. 

I guess the informers over there don't like to be questioned about
their veracity. Same applies to the ankle-biting pundit over here.
What I can't figure out is why you're still here. Some people just
feel better when they have someone to talk to, I guess. Go figure.

http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2007/01/sex-single-guru-really-long.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[Sal Sunshine]

On Mar 15, 2007, at 8:31 AM, authfriend wrote:


Willytex lives under a bridge.


If it's the Brooklyn Bridge maybe someone finally convinced him to buy 
it.


Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[Richard J. Williams]

Vaj wrote:
 It's just her convoluted way of calling him a troll. 

So, it's all about Judy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[Sal Sunshine]

On Mar 15, 2007, at 11:52 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:


My car battery died a few weeks ago. That bastard Khalid Sheik
Mohammed did it! His exact words were, If you stop torturing me, I
will confess to anything


So they then turned on some Barry Manilow, at which point he opted for 
the torture again.


Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[Richard J. Williams]

jstein wrote:
 Hey, Vaj, you got something right for once (except
 I'm not sure how convoluted it would be for most
 people).

Nice - more quips for Barry to use in his next installment of THINGS
TMer JUDITH BELIEVES, Volume I - when you don't agree with your
debating adversary, stalk them over to another newsforum and call them
a troll or a liar. Vaj bashes the Maharishi to no end, but
willytex is your enemy. 

What I can't figure out is why you'd stoop to trying to get me fired
from my job, just because you don't agree with my political point of
view. What's worse, your bashing willytex over politics trumps your
defense of the Maharishi. Go figure.

But, I guess we know who the Usenet lurker is now. 

Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: Judy Stein
Date: 6 Mar 2007 13:06:52
Subject: THINGS TMers BELIEVE, Volume I

He's been getting some serious flak on FFL for his behavior.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 What I can't figure out is why you'd stoop to trying to get
 me fired from my job

Never did any such thing, of course.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[Richard J. Williams]

 The coalition forces should have just sent him over 
 to your place so he could help you replace your car 
 battery.
 
jim flanegin wrote:
 Send your ideas to Bush - He will love them.

Get a grip, Jim. Your guru Mahesh has been totally discredited on this
forum, yet, you're taking up for the Shiek, the mastermind of 9/11?
You've already been brainwashed, apparently. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[Richard J. Williams]

  Wake up, Jim, and smell the coffee. Get out of here and 
  ...get back on the program, before your mind gets brainwashed 
  more than it already is, and you turn into an ankle-biting 
  pundit yourself.
 
jim flanegin wrote:
 I AM on the program.

Which one? 

The one that posts smears about the Maharishi's private sex life or
the one that takes up for the Shiek? I don't think that the Maharishi
would appreciate you being here and taking part in this ankle-biting
conversation, but he might approve of you taking up for the Shiek.

Oh! I get it - Willytex is your enemy because he takes up for the
President of the U.S., but when Willytex takes up for the Maharishi,
Willytex is a troll. That's really screwed up, Jim.

FYI: Posting informer messages about the TM practice isn't included on
the Maharishi's program. Where did you get the idea that you could
teach TM on the Internet?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressing Transcendentalism

[Richard J. Williams]

  I know people who are in the domes and aren't even 
  doing TM. They're doing Course in Miracles meditation, 
  or whatever, and getting paid to be there.
 
Sal Sunshine wrote:
 A few of the ones I know go there to sleep.
 
So, Sally, you're a dome participant AND you've been to India.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The coalition forces should have just sent him over 
  to your place so he could help you replace your car 
  battery.
  
 jim flanegin wrote:
  Send your ideas to Bush - He will love them.
 
 Get a grip, Jim. Your guru Mahesh has been totally discredited on 
this
 forum, yet, you're taking up for the Shiek, the mastermind of 9/11?
 You've already been brainwashed, apparently. Go figure.

If true, that makes two of us :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What I can't figure out is why you're still here. 

I am here because I have wanted to explore my ideas and other's ideas  
about TM, Maharishi, Guru Dev, Self realization and spiritual topics 
in general. Outside of my fiance who I do TM with, I don't discuss my 
spiritual practice with anyone outside this group, and haven't for 
many years, so this has been a good place to explore stuff without 
just getting the TMO party line, or discussing TM with those who may 
not know what it is.

Like Curtis said earlier, none of us here fits into the TM box 
anymore, and I like it that way.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[Richard J. Williams]

  Willytex lives under a bridge.
 
Sal Sunshine wrote: 
 If it's the Brooklyn Bridge maybe someone finally 
 convinced him to buy it.

So, Sally, when Judy smears Willytex, you're on her side, but when
Judy smears you, she's your enemy. Ankle-biting pundits. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[Richard J. Williams]

  What I can't figure out is why you'd stoop to trying 
  to get me fired from my job
 
jstein wrote:
 Never did any such thing, of course.

On Usenet, silence is usually taken to indicate agreement. You're
guilty for not speaking up and for defending the miscreant who tried
to get me fired from my janitor job. 

You seem to have plenty of time to condemn Barry and Vaj, for
critizcizing Mahesh, but when it comes to complaining about a real
ethical violation, you don't have anything to say. Go figure.

What have you got against me living and working under a bridge? 

Maybe it's time for you to take a break from posting and meditate on
your own ethics for awhile - then, in a year or two, return here when
you can debate like a gentleman, if not a lady. At present, your smear
tactics indicate that you are neither. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[Richard J. Williams]

  Get a grip, Jim. Your guru Mahesh has been totally 
  discredited on this forum, yet, you're taking up 
 for the Shiek, the mastermind of 9/11? You've already 
  been brainwashed, apparently. Go figure.
 
jim flanegin wrote:
 If true, that makes two of us :-)

Well, at least there are two of us still on the program. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[Richard J. Williams]

  What I can't figure out is why you're still here. 
 
jim flanegin wrote: 
 I am here because I have wanted to explore my ideas and 
 other's ideas about TM, Maharishi, Guru Dev, Self 
 realization and spiritual topics in general. Outside of 
 my fiance who I do TM with, I don't discuss my spiritual 
 practice with anyone outside this group, and haven't for 
 many years, so this has been a good place to explore 
 stuff without just getting the TMO party line, or 
 discussing TM with those who may not know what it is.

 Like Curtis said earlier, none of us here fits into the 
 TM box anymore, and I like it that way.

So, Jim, bashing the President of the U.S.A. is part of your spiritual
program, just like the TMO party line. Go figure.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:43 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

 

According to my sources, the Maharishi wasn't even in a hotel room at
TTC - he was flown in on a helicopter each day to give his talk in the
lobby and then he went back to Meru in Switzerland to be with Ms
Pittman. However, it's obvious that someone is doing some real lying
around here. For what purpose, I don't know.

 

During the early, big TTCs, like Mallorca and La Antilla, Maharishi was in
residence pretty much the whole time. During the mid-70's in there were
smaller TTCs in Switzerland and France and he visited these by helicopter,
sometimes by car, usually near the end.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, Jim, bashing the President of the U.S.A. is part of your 
spiritual
 program, just like the TMO party line. Go figure.

Bush is incompetent, and mean-spirited. If he were not the President I 
would say nothing about him. As it is his incompetence and mean-ness 
have cost hardship and many many lives, to say nothing of completely 
ruining the reputation of America in the rest of the world. He has no 
business being President, and I will throw a party when he leaves 
office. It cannot be too soon. Thanks for bringing this up.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[Richard J. Williams]

 Posting informer messages about the TM practice isn't 
 included on the Maharishi's program. 

jim flanegin wrote:
 You sound kind of crazy to be frank.

So, you're taking up for the Shiek and the Yogi, but I'm the one that
sounds crazy? Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Wake up, Jim, and smell the coffee. Get out of here and 
   ...get back on the program, before your mind gets brainwashed 
   more than it already is, and you turn into an ankle-biting 
   pundit yourself.
  
 jim flanegin wrote:
  I AM on the program.
 
 Which one? 
 
 The one that posts smears about the Maharishi's private sex life or
 the one that takes up for the Shiek? I don't think that the 
Maharishi
 would appreciate you being here and taking part in this ankle-
biting
 conversation, but he might approve of you taking up for the Shiek.
 
 Oh! I get it - Willytex is your enemy because he takes up for the
 President of the U.S., but when Willytex takes up for the 
Maharishi,
 Willytex is a troll. That's really screwed up, Jim.
 
 FYI: Posting informer messages about the TM practice isn't 
included on
 the Maharishi's program. Where did you get the idea that you could
 teach TM on the Internet?

You are all over the map, huh? You sound kind of crazy to be frank.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Posting informer messages about the TM practice isn't 
  included on the Maharishi's program. 
 
 jim flanegin wrote:
  You sound kind of crazy to be frank.
 
 So, you're taking up for the Shiek and the Yogi, but I'm the one that
 sounds crazy? Go figure.

Now, the professional TM-attackers are on holiday, and then they send 
in this fellow instead ? What a joke

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[Jonathan Chadwick]

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
 willytex@ wrote:
 
  So, Jim, bashing the President of the U.S.A. is part of your 
 spiritual
  program, just like the TMO party line. Go figure.
 
 Bush is incompetent, and mean-spirited. If he were not the President 
I 
 would say nothing about him. As it is his incompetence and mean-ness 
 have cost hardship and many many lives, to say nothing of completely 
 ruining the reputation of America in the rest of the world. He has no 
 business being President, and I will throw a party when he leaves 
 office. It cannot be too soon. Thanks for bringing this up.

I saw a picture of this Bush fellow in the newspapers today. He 
suddenly looked 20 years older than 2 years ago. How will he look in 2 
years time, like someone at 70 ? Karma is not something reserved for 
life hereafter or the next life, it may very well be enjoyed here and 
now. This fellow is responsible for the deaths of thousands of lives, 
and much energy will have to be used to balance his crazy acts in the 
years to come.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

[peterklutz]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
  willytex@ wrote:
  
   peterklutz wrote:
 I left, that's what happened. 

   sparaig wrote:
And one or more pro-TMers, including MUM faculty, who are 
completely embarrassed by your behavior there.
   
   Well, I'm embarrased by almost all pro-TMers, as well as anti-TMer
   behavior on the Internet. Barry certainly has a good point - you
guys
   suck as informers. You may be the exception. 
   
   But nobody has ever answered my question about being on the TM
program
   and posting insider information to newsgroups. I don't think
Maharishi
   would approve of that, even on Wikipedia. So, that's my point.
  
  See last answer.
  
   It's absurd to use the term TMer - it's meaningless. 
  
  Take 2: A TMer is a person who has learnt and regularly practices TM
  as taught by His Holiness MMY. Period.
  
  [snip]
  
   But what is strange is that there are some libelous archives on this
   forum concerning the Maharishi's private sex life. I would think
that
   any pro-TMer, if they are really on the program, would object to
that.
   
   If any of you TMers had any real convictions, you'd use Usenet
instead
   of this proprietary forum. I'd say that almost all of the
respondents
   here have all been kicked off the program by now. Go figure.
  
  
  Are you drunk? 
  
  Maybe you're just a lazy as your drawl is Texan. Before passing
  judgement on people, get your facts straight re who has said what. 
  
  The fact is that you and I are on the same side when it comes to MMY
  (unless there are skeletons in your closet I am not aware of).
  
  That is also the reason your pencil-dicked friend Sparaig is so
  hysterical and keeps returning to Peter Klutz' Wiki-period: for
  Peter's objecting through editing to the systematic MMY/TMO slandering
  at Wiki. 
  
  You see, sparaig is an hypocrite who feels form is more important than
  content. He would rather see the TMO's founder accused of pedophilia
  than himself fall out of any imaginary grace with the inquisition at
  Wikipedia.
  
  Sparaig is also a coward since he rather stab TMers in their backs
  rather than to speak up against the rouge anti-TM disinformers out
 there.
  
  With friends like Sparaig - who needs enemies?
 
 
 Great stuff today, Peter...at this rate you may 
 have the next issue of THINGS TMers BELIEVE almost 
 to yourself.  :-)


All you have to do to make that happen is to pretend that Peter KLutz
does not represent neither the TMO nor your average TMer.

Since the alternative, to start a blog called THINGS PETERKLUTZ
BELIEVE is not a healthy option for yourself (the only way you will be
able to pay me off after my lawyers are done with you, is to kill
yourself and sell your empty brain to science), maybe you should just
put a sock in your French little faggot mouth and forget about it.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jim_flanegin
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:53 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

 

The cool thing about all this as I see it is that each of those 
sticking points- the sex, the money and the power- are all vague 
enough in their evidence and any definitive answers as to allow near 
endless debate on each topic, leaving the ultimate decision regarding 
the validity of the knowledge Maharishi has brought out to the world 
up to each of us. 



I regard TM as having saved my life. The issue for me is that M's shady side
casts doubt on the validity of many things he has said. I used to take his
word as the gospel truth, because he was enlightened, and by his definition,
the enlightened could do no wrong. Now I take everything he says with a
grain of salt. For me, things he has said range from extremely profound and
valuable to utter nonsense.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
  willytex@ wrote:
  
   So, Jim, bashing the President of the U.S.A. is part of your 
  spiritual
   program, just like the TMO party line. Go figure.
  
  Bush is incompetent, and mean-spirited. If he were not the 
President 
 I 
  would say nothing about him. As it is his incompetence and mean-
ness 
  have cost hardship and many many lives, to say nothing of 
completely 
  ruining the reputation of America in the rest of the world. He 
has no 
  business being President, and I will throw a party when he 
leaves 
  office. It cannot be too soon. Thanks for bringing this up.
 
 I saw a picture of this Bush fellow in the newspapers today. He 
 suddenly looked 20 years older than 2 years ago. How will he look 
in 2 
 years time, like someone at 70 ? Karma is not something reserved 
for 
 life hereafter or the next life, it may very well be enjoyed 
here and 
 now. This fellow is responsible for the deaths of thousands of 
lives, 
 and much energy will have to be used to balance his crazy acts in 
the 
 years to come.

I have noticed too, how the misery he is causing others is now 
written on his face. What a mess he is.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Speaks

[Jonathan Chadwick]

Sorry to bore you old timers around here with this topic again.  I got to ask 
Cythnia about this one time when she was promoting A Twist of Lennon on Larry 
King:  she kept repeating that it was his [John's] disillusionment that 
brought him home, it was his disillusionment that brought him home...  We went 
back  forth but she stuck to her story.  

Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:52 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Speaks


  
In a message dated 3/14/2007 10:49:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Guru upset by Beatles' drug useWORLD BRIEFINGS
By David Orr
LONDON DAILY TELEGRAPH
March 6, 2006 

  
NEW DELHI -- The spat between the Beatles and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1968 
became an instant pop legend as perhaps the most bitter breakup in the era of 
free love. 
Now, after almost four decades of rumor and counter-rumor, a confidant of 
both sides has gone public with revelations that could upset many of the band's 
fans. 
Spiritualist and author Deepak Chopra, a former maharishi disciple and a 
friend of the late George Harrison, has said that contrary to popular myth, the 
row had nothing to do with charges that the maharishi made sexual advances 
toward Mia Farrow, the actress and friend of the band. 










  Presumably Deepak knows this because George Harrison told him. Otherwise, how 
would he know? The Beatles were in Rishikesh in what, 1968? Deepak didn’t learn 
TM until 1980 or so. Anyway, the story John Lennon told was quite different. 
Maharishi didn’t want the Beatles to leave and tried to talk them out of it. 
Also, Cynthia Lennon, in her book “A Twist of Lennon,” said the Beatles were 
drug-free in Rishikesh. I think she would know better than Deepak.


  

 

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[peterklutz]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has also confessed to
masterminding:
 Hurricane Katrina
 The Indonesian Tsunami
 The Loma Prieta Earthquake
 The Riverside Earthquake
 
 Who could have imagined that this guy who looks like a derelict  off 
 skid row could be the greatest criminal mastermind of all time.
 
 BTW, here's a great opportunity: Brooklyn Bridge is available for sale.
 
 Oh and also I heard he masterminded the trouble Alberto Gonzales is
in. :)


Thank God for the Nazis and Commies - at least there were two credible
enemies that kept the wheels of the illuminati-military-industrial
complex spinning.

:-) 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[Richard J. Williams]

 According to my sources, the Maharishi wasn't even 
 in a hotel room at TTC - he was flown in on a helicopter 
 each day to give his talk in the lobby and then he went 
 back to Meru in Switzerland to be with Ms Pittman.
 
Rick Archer wrote: 
 During the early, big TTCs, like Mallorca and La Antilla, 
 Maharishi was in residence pretty much the whole time.

So, you're thinking that the Maharishi had sex in an unlocked hotel
room in Mallorca and La Antilla, with hundreds of students around him
all the time watching his every move, with skin boys and secretaries
waiting outside the door, with Jerry and Charlie going in and out of
the room at all hours of the day and night, but nobody ever saw Mahesh
with his dhoti down. Maybe so, but it sure seems like a stretch to me.
It must have really been a quickie!

Man, this guy Mahesh was awesome if he was able to pull that off! I've
got a whole new respect for the guy. I can't even take a nap under the
bridge without being taken to task by Judy, and she's a thousand miles
away. 
 
 During the mid-70's in there were smaller TTCs in 
 Switzerland and France and he visited these by helicopter,
 sometimes by car, usually near the end.

So, you're thinking that Mahesh flew in to the smaller TTCs in order
to get laid in a hotel room, but that he wasn't interested in Ms
Pittman who was waiting for him back at Meru? And that he was only
interested in having sex with skinny white girls who were exhausted
after following him around the hotel for sixteen hours? 

Maybe so, but what I can't seem to figure out is why the Maharishi
bashers like John Knapp, Mike Doughney, Don Krieger, and Tom Anderson
never mentioned these sex escapades in over ten years of posting to
Usenet. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of jim_flanegin
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:53 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex
 
  
 
 The cool thing about all this as I see it is that each of those 
 sticking points- the sex, the money and the power- are all vague 
 enough in their evidence and any definitive answers as to allow 
near 
 endless debate on each topic, leaving the ultimate decision 
regarding 
 the validity of the knowledge Maharishi has brought out to the 
world 
 up to each of us. 
 
 
 
 I regard TM as having saved my life. The issue for me is that M's 
shady side
 casts doubt on the validity of many things he has said. I used to 
take his
 word as the gospel truth, because he was enlightened, and by his 
definition,
 the enlightened could do no wrong. Now I take everything he says 
with a
 grain of salt. For me, things he has said range from extremely 
profound and
 valuable to utter nonsense.

From Maharishi there is definitely a spectrum there, from the 
meaningful to the useless, for each of us. I would probably say the 
same about TM as you did. I have been able to become the person I 
always wanted to be as a result of my practice of TM.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Speaks

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jonathan Chadwick
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:18 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Speaks

 

Sorry to bore you old timers around here with this topic again.  I got to
ask Cythnia about this one time when she was promoting A Twist of Lennon
on Larry King:  she kept repeating that it was his [John's] disillusionment
that brought him home, it was his disillusionment that brought him home...
We went back  forth but she stuck to her story.  

Did she say why he was disillusioned?

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   What I can't figure out is why you'd stoop to trying 
   to get me fired from my job
  
 jstein wrote:
  Never did any such thing, of course.
 
 On Usenet, silence is usually taken to indicate agreement. You're
 guilty for not speaking up and for defending the miscreant who tried
 to get me fired from my janitor job.

Nobody tried to get you fired, Willytex.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witness Chronology to the Sex

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 I regard TM as having saved my life. The issue for me is that M's
 shady side casts doubt on the validity of many things he has said.
 I used to take his word as the gospel truth, because he was 
 enlightened, and by his definition, the enlightened could do no 
 wrong.

You do realize now that you misinterpreted the
implications of can do no wrong, right?



 Now I take everything he says with a
 grain of salt. For me, things he has said range from extremely 
profound and
 valuable to utter nonsense.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Check out Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence

[Sal Sunshine]

On Mar 15, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Jonathan Chadwick wrote:


Book Description
In recent years, the ontological argument and theistic metaphysics 
have been criticized by philosophers working in both the analytic and 
continental traditions.


I am sure this will be a huge bestseller.  Is the English version 
available?


Sal

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:21 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls

 

 According to my sources, the Maharishi wasn't even 
 in a hotel room at TTC - he was flown in on a helicopter 
 each day to give his talk in the lobby and then he went 
 back to Meru in Switzerland to be with Ms Pittman.
 
Rick Archer wrote: 
 During the early, big TTCs, like Mallorca and La Antilla, 
 Maharishi was in residence pretty much the whole time.

So, you're thinking that the Maharishi had sex in an unlocked hotel
room in Mallorca and La Antilla, with hundreds of students around him
all the time watching his every move, with skin boys and secretaries
waiting outside the door, with Jerry and Charlie going in and out of
the room at all hours of the day and night, but nobody ever saw Mahesh
with his dhoti down. Maybe so, but it sure seems like a stretch to me.
It must have really been a quickie!

These trysts happened late at night, in a locked hotel suite. The only
people who knew about them were the guys who brought the women to his door,
and later, back in the States, talked with them about it. In other cases,
some of the previous women saw what was going on and alerted the current
woman. That happened with Jennifer, who was alerted by April Clements and
Judith.

 
So, you're thinking that Mahesh flew in to the smaller TTCs in order
to get laid in a hotel room, 

I wasn't thinking anything of the sort. No one said he was doing this in
Switzerland.

but that he wasn't interested in Ms
Pittman who was waiting for him back at Meru? 

Ma was awfully nice, but not exactly a foxy lady. I do remember one occasion
in Vitznau when M stood on the balcony of his suite with a crowd of us
eagerly awaiting to be invited in, then summoning Ma. I heard her groan, as
if she didn't want to go, and was surprised that she would react that way.
But she has never been mentioned as a possible sexual partner to M. I'm not
inferring nor implying that she was.

And that he was only
interested in having sex with skinny white girls who were exhausted
after following him around the hotel for sixteen hours? 

Your ideas, not mine.

Maybe so, but what I can't seem to figure out is why the Maharishi
bashers like John Knapp, Mike Doughney, Don Krieger, and Tom Anderson
never mentioned these sex escapades in over ten years of posting to
Usenet. 

Maybe they didn't know about them. This info has come out a lot more in the
last 5 years. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9-11 Mastermind also Masterminded these

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has also confessed to
 masterminding:
  Hurricane Katrina
  The Indonesian Tsunami
  The Loma Prieta Earthquake
  The Riverside Earthquake
  
  Who could have imagined that this guy who looks like a derelict  
off 
  skid row could be the greatest criminal mastermind of all time.
  
  BTW, here's a great opportunity: Brooklyn Bridge is available 
for sale.
  
  Oh and also I heard he masterminded the trouble Alberto Gonzales 
is
 in. :)
 
 
 Thank God for the Nazis and Commies - at least there were two 
credible
 enemies that kept the wheels of the illuminati-military-industrial
 complex spinning.
 
 :-)

I am fascinated in a sickening way with the precision of the Bush 
propaganda machine. Just when things are getting too warm around the 
White House regarding allegations of corruption and failure, out 
pops this revelation, reminding everyone of our external enemies and 
the spectre of 9-11. Brilliant and evil at the same time.