[FairfieldLife] Re: Time to vote -- Who's a bigger liar and fuckhead? John or Edg?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, I don't think my record here would support anyone thinking that I have tossed my hat into the Barry camp. In fact, he's called me on my shit more than anyone here, but he's always done it with a tender touch if you ask me. I try to be respectful of his odd stuff, cuz GAWD I've got odd stuff too. You, Judy, I've tried as hard as possible not to besmirch, cuz, I sure don't want any of the hot lead you throw at Barry. Why are you coming out so strongly when I am testifying, not to an opinion, but to an actual memory of mine? And why are you not commenting on John's name calling? It's just the teacher protecting the student. :-) Seriously, Edg. John's just acting the way he was *taught* to act over on AMT by Swami J. He actually started out thinking as little of J and her tendency to call people liars as if she had a Hotline To Truth and could *tell* when they were lying, just by the way they dotted their i's as anyone else. But John doesn't have much of a spine, so soon he switched camps and was right there beside Swami J as she cut her swath through untruth everywhere, always ready to say in a mighty, booming, voice: Yeah, that's right, Judy. or Yeah that enemy of the week sure is a phony all right. or Yeah, what she said. Can I have my cookie now? Don't blame John. As you'll figure out, he's not real bright, and tends (like his mentor) to post things that *other* people wrote to make you think he's smart enough to have read them. :-) And he mainly does what he's told by his betters. Like Charlie and Swami J. He lives in Brazil, last I heard. I doubt your lawyers can find him there, and an ex- postman's salary isn't really gonna make it worth your while.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to vote -- Who's a bigger liar and fuckhead? John or Edg?
Like they say in the hood, Come at me stupid and I'll come at you retarded. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:25 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to vote -- Who's a bigger liar and fuckhead? John or Edg? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:16 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to vote -- Who's a bigger liar and fuckhead? John or Edg? Anyone here want to give me John Manning's street address? Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God (Matthew 5:9). No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.9/975 - Release Date: 8/26/2007 9:34 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Pearl in the Guru Gita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my cc of the Shree Guru Gita - official booklet of SYDA giving the Skt chant of the Guru Gita as done in Muktananda's (and successor)'s Ashrams. English transliteration of verse 120: Sri Parvati said: O great God [Shiva], what is pinda? What is known as pada? What are rupa and rupatita. O Shankara, explain this to me. Verse 121: Shri Mahadeva said: Pinda is Kundalini Shakti. Hamsa (OSpontaneous repetiton of Hamsa) is pada. Know rupa to be the bindu (blue pearl) and rupatita is the pure One (beyond the three.) Verse 122: Pinde mukta pade mukta rupe mukta varanane, Rupatite tu ye muktas te mukta natra samsayah. NBD, but here's the correct transliteration: piNDe muktaaH pade muktaa ruupe muktaa varaanane | ruupaatiite [ruupa-ati-ite -- C.] tu ye muktaas te muktaa naatra saMshayaH || 170||
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Pearl in the Guru Gita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my cc of the Shree Guru Gita - official booklet of SYDA giving the Skt chant of the Guru Gita as done in Muktananda's (and successor)'s Ashrams. English transliteration of verse 120: Sri Parvati said: O great God [Shiva], what is pinda? What is known as pada? What are rupa and rupatita. O Shankara, explain this to me. Verse 121: Shri Mahadeva said: Pinda is Kundalini Shakti. Hamsa (OSpontaneous repetiton of Hamsa) is pada. Know rupa to be the bindu (blue pearl) and rupatita is the pure One (beyond the three.) Verse 122: Pinde mukta pade mukta rupe mukta varanane, Rupatite tu ye muktas te mukta natra samsayah. NBD, but here's the correct transliteration: piNDe muktaaH pade muktaa ruupe muktaa varaanane | ruupaatiite [ruupa-ati-ite -- C.] tu ye muktaas te muktaa naatra saMshayaH || 170||
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Pearl in the Guru Gita
Of five elements blue is spacial thus most expansive. - Original Message - From: cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Pearl in the Guru Gita --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my cc of the Shree Guru Gita - official booklet of SYDA giving the Skt chant of the Guru Gita as done in Muktananda's (and successor)'s Ashrams. English transliteration of verse 120: Sri Parvati said: O great God [Shiva], what is pinda? What is known as pada? What are rupa and rupatita. O Shankara, explain this to me. Verse 121: Shri Mahadeva said: Pinda is Kundalini Shakti. Hamsa (OSpontaneous repetiton of Hamsa) is pada. Know rupa to be the bindu (blue pearl) and rupatita is the pure One (beyond the three.) Verse 122: Pinde mukta pade mukta rupe mukta varanane, Rupatite tu ye muktas te mukta natra samsayah. NBD, but here's the correct transliteration: piNDe muktaaH pade muktaa ruupe muktaa varaanane | ruupaatiite [ruupa-ati-ite -- C.] tu ye muktaas te muktaa naatra saMshayaH || 170|| To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Enlightened dealing with the family, Ashram needed
Namaste Louis, Am glad the poem was felt within. This one's husband can't appreciate Awakening at present only because he doesn't Understand it. The Truths that have been shared are directly questioning what he has always believed to be real and of value: himself and his story line (which included a set image of who he held his wife to be). So this one being Awake carries no value because all of his values are misplaced. So what's new? Most of the egos on this planet are stuck in this *mindset*, which then helps to feed the same old ego stories world wide. Rare are those who search within, with great courage and determination, to find the Pearl of Great Price. This one's husband is a beautiful man... this path and subsequent Awakening has bothered him only because a year ago we both shared the same *beliefs* regarding spirituality, religion and Life: NONE. While nothing has been lost other than BAGGAGE, with its inherent ups and downs, the image of the woman he married has changed some and no longer shares what he *believes* to be real or of value. This does not mean i have lost sight or value of our children, marriage, family or friends, but that it is all Seen for what it IS and can now be Truly Savored. Unfortunately (and remember this all too well), he has taken Simple Truths and spun them into sticky webs... only because he does not Understand and is operating strictly out of fear. Compassion is given for this reaction... know its pull all too well. Have been very lucky to enjoy a wonderful, fulfilling marriage. Have always found this marriage to be supportive and uplifting for both. The problems now only stem from misunderstanding on his end. This is Understood... one must walk a while before Seeing with Clarity emerges. Can only offer up what is Known and let all the rest fall where it may. There are no losses or casualities... all is Understood and inherently Free. In his own time, in his own way, he will find Home. Whether or not he chooses now or in a trillion years is entirely up to him... such is the Beautiful Freedom of Life. Freedom and Blessings, Sarojini Namaste Guru's of Grace and Group, 0 - this is another reason why an ashram and healing center would be of great benefit. 000 - Humanity, on this Beautiful Planet Earth, is at an urgent crossroads. Life here is indeed Heaven on Earth, but remains a Paradise (the Glorious Garden of Eden) unnoticed by most. However, with the age of techology, combined with egos gone absolutely mad, life as lived by all of earth's inhabitants could be quashed in an instant. One must Surrender to Grace so this Freedom can be Lived and shared with any and all who will listen. An ashram would be of ENORMOUS benefit to Humanity, which is of course, ONE-SELF. Although this one is of limited funds and numerous obligations, the donations to Guru-ji's work will continue on until this body is laid to rest. Why, one might ask, since the Goal has been Realized? Simply because Guru-ji is Grace-FULL and can surely walk many Home to become beacons of Light for the world. For one to contribute as much as able for an Ashram that would allow those to come while in the midst of an Awakening, or who need one to one focus, or for those who have no place to go would be Great Seva. There are always reasons not to give, but none greater than the need to help this world under attack by ego. This Freedom is indeed a Priceless Gem. Once Realized, it is Known that if all Truly Knew the Value of This Treasure, one would Gladly and without delay give all possesions, even body parts (morbid to some, but who needs the body!? Ha ha ha ha ha ha!) in return for the Gift of Life. Car washes, bake sales, making and selling jewlery / clothing / trinkets... whatever one can do to raise some funds, Truth is asking for all to Help... Help bring all Home to Itself so Heaven on Earth may be Realized for ALL! Thank you for allowing this plea to be shared. Freedom... the Priceless Treasure of Being, Sarojini 000
[FairfieldLife] US now torturing its own troops
One after another, the men and women who have stepped forward to report corruption in the massive effort to rebuild Iraq have been vilified, fired and demoted. Or worse. For daring to report illegal arms sales, Navy veteran Donald Vance says he was imprisoned by the American military in a security compound outside Baghdad and subjected to harsh interrogation methods. There were times, huddled on the floor in solitary confinement with that head-banging music blaring dawn to dusk and interrogators yelling the same questions over and over, that Vance began to wish he had just kept his mouth shut. He had thought he was doing a good and noble thing when he started telling the FBI about the guns and the land mines and the rocket-launchers - all of them being sold for cash, no receipts necessary, he said. He told a federal agent the buyers were Iraqi insurgents, American soldiers, State Department workers, and Iraqi embassy and ministry employees. Full story at: http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/08/24/ap4052736.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Time to vote -- Who's a bigger liar and fuckhead? John or Edg?
Couple additional thoughts here: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, I don't think my record here would support anyone thinking that I have tossed my hat into the Barry camp. In fact, he's called me on my shit more than anyone here, but he's always done it with a tender touch if you ask me. I try to be respectful of his odd stuff, cuz GAWD I've got odd stuff too. This is exactly what I meant by mutual ass-kissing relationship. Barry employs his tender touch with a view to getting you on his side, because he needs allies; and you fall for it like a ton of bricks, carefully overlooking his disgraceful odd stuff in gratitude for his tenderness. I overlooked this in my earlier response: Judy, this is an actual situation where a lawsuit could be started, and you might find yourself spending a bit of dough just to answer the court documents served to get your explanation of your words here. Can you afford such a fight? Not only are you threatening John with a lawsuit, you're threatening *me* because I honestly told you what I think--in response to *your request*-- rather than fawning over you like Barry does. I'm taking back even my backhanded compliment. You're a 100 percent fuckhead. You expose yourself not to get honest reactions but to get points for doing so and to solicit reassurance that you're really just a terrific fellow. Oh, yeah, and then there's this: Why such a forthright dumping of me when so clearly I was trying to give John a face saving out? Note, first, the injured response to my having answered *your questions* honestly. You didn't want honest reactions; you wanted to have your ass kissed. Second, it was John who gave *you* a face-saving out by suggesting you may have misremembered the context of what you claim Charlie said. And instead of taking the hint, you appropriate the out John offered and pretend it was your idea. Sorry, but I have to conclude you're just as much a phony as Barry is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FF restaurant threatens lawsuit over blog entry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:56 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF restaurant threatens lawsuit over blog entry However, now that the owners are attempting to suppress free speech, I will now boycott all their restaurants (no big loss for them, considering I rarely eat in town.) The father owns Gupta's Indian restaurant. I've never eaten there because it's not a corpse emporium. When I go out for Indian food, I go to India Cafe for the tandoori chicken. They also have yummy lamb dishes on the dinner menu.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Radiation breeding: better living through nuked mutants
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/28/science/28crop.html I'm a milk-digesting Caucasoid who is vehemently against mutations of any kind. Down with mutants!
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
A few of the details in Barry's account didn't quite sound right to me, so I decided to check on the earlier versions Barry has related on FFL and alt.m.t. Compare and contrast; here's Barry's latest FFL version: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is when I got stuck being door guy at Maharishi's door the night before the second Merv taping. Charlie arrived, I went inside and told one of the guys inside that he was there, watched him walk up to Maharishi and tell him that Charlie was there, and then come back to me and say, Maharishi said to have him wait. Charlie waited, fuming. He stood there for a while, among all the dozen or so other people waiting outside the door, and then he started to pace. Finally, after about half an hour, he announced in a large voice, It's been over an hour! I wouldn't wait an hour to see Jesus Christ. I'm leaving. And he did. *That* is Charlie Lutes. He wanted what he had at the very beginning of the TM movement, to be special. He was kept out of the room because some important network people were in there and Maharishi was afraid he'd embarrass him. And, rather than wait outside with all the other peons, Charlie stalked off in a snit, and then made up a grand paranoid tale about Jerry's minions keeping him out of the room. *Maharishi* kept him out of the room, and kept him waiting in the hallway with all the other peons. And Charlie was too special to wait with all the others. Half an hour among the Great Unwashed was as far as his devotion went. Yeah, Charlie was special all right. In the same place that *his* minions were -- and seemingly are still -- special. In their minds. And here's an earlier version from FFL, a year ago: LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like Maharishi, an hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for Jesus Christ! Yup, almost word for word. I was the door guy at the hotel room door that night. I told the folks inside that Charlie was there, and watched them tell Maharishi. Charlie waited for an hour or so, and then stormed off, shouting those words. Later, because I was the door guy, I was the one who Maharishi told Charlie was to blame for keeping him out: They never told me. They told him. In the current account, it was Charlie *making up* a grand paranoid tale about Jerry's minions keeping him out of the room. But last year, it was MMY himself who told Charlie that. Note also that a year ago, Charlie hung around for an hour or so, not just 30 minutes. Now from alt.m.t: There *were* a great number of roaring assholes in the SIMS org at that time, many of them carried away with their own self importance and the mistaken belief that it was up to them to protect the purity of the teaching. And many of them felt that Charlie was a challenge to that purity, because of his tendency to not attribute the things he taught to their proper source. Here again, Barry was willing to acknowledge that Charlie's paranoia actually had a basis. I was once or twice the target of some of Charlie's pettiness. Do you remember the story I related here recently of being stuck on door duty the night Merv and Clint were there and Maharishi kept Charlie waiting in the hall for several hours? Well, after that particular incident, because I was the asshole at the door, Charlie decided that *I* was the one who had kept him away from MMY. The fact that I often attended his Friday night meetings and had been on very friendly terms with him up to that point didn't seem to factor into his thinking -- I was at the door, I was to blame. So he launched a campaign to get me fired from my plush :-) $500-a-month job at the Regional Office, calling Maharishi in Switzerland several times to accomplish this. (Somehow I survived.) Oops. In this version, Barry seems to have forgotten that it was MMY who told Charlie Barry was the one to have kept him out of the room. We're back to Charlie's paranoia again. But here we do see Barry's motivation for sneaking a tape recorder into one of Charlie's lectures, in revenge for Charlie having tried to get him fired. Or, did Charlie try to get Barry fired *because* Barry had surreptitiously taped his lecture to make him look bad, and because MMY had told him Barry and Jerry's other minions were responsible for his not being able to see MMY? Only Barry knows what the time sequence was here. But one way or another, it appears that Charlie had plenty of reason to dislike and distrust Barry. I was in a position several times to see how Maharishi treated Charlie. He often kept him waiting in hallways for *hours*, knowing full well that he was there, knowing he was impatient and would sooner or later throw a tantrum and stalk off, and then, just when Charlie was about to storm off in a snit, Maharishi would call him into the room and then say, Oh,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Time to vote -- Who's a bigger liar and fuckhead? John or Edg?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But let's get back to the LIAR thing. I think that folks here have figured out by now that it's a desperation move on the part of those who resort to it. *Especially* when they claim to know that someone else is lying, when it's physically impossible for them *to* know such a thing. Something that liars like Barry have learned to take full advantage of... snip As far as I can tell, that was the whole *purpose* of Maharishi having Charlie wait in the hall with all the other peons. *He didn't think he was one of them*. And that, of course, was why MMY, according to Barry, told Charlie it was Jerry's minions who were making him wait by not telling MMY he was there. Oh, wait... And, rather than suck it up and live with that, Charlie stormed off in a snit and made the whole thing into some grand conspiracy aimed at discrediting *him* and keeping *him* away from Maharishi. There were the bad guys (Jerry and his minions) and then there was Charlie. Just as MMY had explained to Charlie, according to Barry. snip Charlie Lutes took that half an hour spent stand- ing in the hallway of the Beverly Wilshire hotel out on me personally. He tried his best over the next months to get me fired from my gig with the Regional Office and kicked out of the TM move- ment. That, too, is who Charlie really was. Hm, maybe if MMY hadn't told Charlie it was Barry who had kept him out, he wouldn't have tried to get Barry fired. Or was it the tape recorder stunt, perhaps, that was behind it? snip The guy couldn't even handle a half-hour wait. Or an hour's wait. Or several hours' wait. You know, depending on which version of Barry's story you read. Being called a liar by John Manning is equivalent to being pissed on by a gnat. No biggie. There's not even enough substance in it to leave a damp spot on your Trikking shoes. Let it go, and let him go back to considering himself special. The Master of Inadvertent Irony strikes again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Time to vote -- Who's a bigger liar and fuckhead? John or Edg?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Seriously, Edg. John's just acting the way he was *taught* to act over on AMT by Swami J. He actually started out thinking as little of J and her tendency to call people liars as if she had a Hotline To Truth and could *tell* when they were lying, just by the way they dotted their i's as anyone else. But John doesn't have much of a spine, so soon he switched camps and was right there beside Swami J as she cut her swath through untruth everywhere, always ready to say in a mighty, booming, voice: BTW, this is, um, a Big Fat Lie, a whole passel of lies rolled into one. It's a lie, and a particularly vicious one, because Barry is well aware of the circumstances and has chosen to misrepresent them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gaping hole found in universe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gaping hole found in universe WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A giant hole in the Universe is devoid of galaxies, stars and even lacks dark matter, astronomers said on Thursday ...and here is an interesting visualisation of it: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070827.html Uns.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
I'll make an exception and reply to one of Swami J's posts here, because she *knows* that what she's implying below isn't true. BTW, you'll notice that disciple John is letting Swami J fight his battles for him. Get used to it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few of the details in Barry's account didn't quite sound right to me, so I decided to check on the earlier versions Barry has related on FFL and alt.m.t. ... And here's an earlier version from FFL, a year ago: LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like Maharishi, an hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for Jesus Christ! Yup, almost word for word. I was the door guy at the hotel room door that night. I told the folks inside that Charlie was there, and watched them tell Maharishi. Charlie waited for an hour or so, and then stormed off, shouting those words. Later, because I was the door guy, I was the one who Maharishi told Charlie was to blame for keeping him out: They never told me. They told him. In the current account, it was Charlie *making up* a grand paranoid tale about Jerry's minions keeping him out of the room. But last year, it was MMY himself who told Charlie that. As you well know, Swami J ( recognize the phrase As you well know? :-), that part came *after* the part of the story I just retold. It happened at the airport the next day, when Charlie showed up to see Maharishi, having blown him off the night before. Charlie went up to Maharishi and said something to the effect of, I was there at the hotel last night, but they told me to wait outside. Maharishi looked Charlie straight in the eye and said, No one ever told me you were there. THAT is a LIE. I *watched* the person tell him. I *watched* MMY tell the guy to tell me to have Charlie wait. And Jerry Jarvis and a couple of other close friends (not to mention Merv and Clint) were sitting right there close enough to *hear* him say it. Jerry and the others confirmed this to me after the Charlieshit later hit the fan. But now, face to face with Charlie Lutes, Maharishi told him that No one told me. Go figure, eh? That's a Zen puzzler for those of you who think Maharishi never lies. But even more so, it's a head-scratcher for those who think Swami J never lies. She just got back from reading the earlier version of these stories, so she knows what went down, and in what sequence. But that's not quite how she told it, is it? I was once or twice the target of some of Charlie's pettiness. Do you remember the story I related here recently of being stuck on door duty the night Merv and Clint were there and Maharishi kept Charlie waiting in the hall for several hours? Well, after that particular incident, because I was the asshole at the door, Charlie decided that *I* was the one who had kept him away from MMY. The fact that I often attended his Friday night meetings and had been on very friendly terms with him up to that point didn't seem to factor into his thinking -- I was at the door, I was to blame. So he launched a campaign to get me fired from my plush :-) $500-a-month job at the Regional Office, calling Maharishi in Switzerland several times to accomplish this. (Somehow I survived.) Oops. In this version, Barry seems to have forgotten that it was MMY who told Charlie Barry was the one to have kept him out of the room. We're back to Charlie's paranoia again. Not true. Maharishi never assigned blame. If I said so earlier that was fast writing on my part. He merely lied and said to Charlie, No one ever told me you were there. Charlie *assumed* it was me who had lied to him about telling Maharishi when I came back out and told him that Maharishi had asked for him to wait. But here we do see Barry's motivation for sneaking a tape recorder into one of Charlie's lectures, in revenge for Charlie having tried to get him fired. The tape recorder incident was months before the Merv taping. As you might say, Oooopsie. :-) Or, did Charlie try to get Barry fired *because* Barry had surreptitiously taped his lecture to make him look bad, and because MMY had told him Barry and Jerry's other minions were responsible for his not being able to see MMY? Charlie never knew I taped any of his lectures. He didn't know me except to say Hi to before the incident at the airport. It was only after that that we began to hear reports of him going to Maharishi and trying to get me fired from the Regional Office. But let's spend a moment on surrepititiously taped his lecture to make him look bad. That's quite a view of the universe you have there, Swami J. Now I understand why you were so upset about the Things TMers Believe series of quotes I collected. You're under the impression that taping or reposting someone's exact words is an attempt to make them look bad. I taped the *entire lectures*. The entire
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF restaurant threatens lawsuit over blog entry
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob_brigante Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF restaurant threatens lawsuit over blog entry I think this is a heavily culture-influenced thing. Gupta introduced himself to me one day while I was eating at his place (it's the one of the east side of the square), and he's a man who takes a great deal of pride in his food (justifiably, for his veggie restaurant, IMO), but, as an immigrant, doesn't understand the way things are done in this society. Actually, I'm a little surprised that a Hindu guy who runs a vegetarian restaurant would open up a dead cow and other corpse emporium like Vivo (ha!, he needs a Latin dictionary). Bob Brigante His son Vipul opened those. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll make an exception and reply to one of Swami J's posts here, because she *knows* that what she's implying below isn't true. BTW, you'll notice that disciple John is letting Swami J fight his battles for him. Get used to it. You're attacking Judy, asshole, not me. And what makes you think your perpetual self-apparent ego act warrants any automatic response from me? Oh yeah, it's part of your phony act. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: A few of the details in Barry's account didn't quite sound right to me, so I decided to check on the earlier versions Barry has related on FFL and alt.m.t. ... And here's an earlier version from FFL, a year ago: LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like Maharishi, an hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for Jesus Christ! Yup, almost word for word. I was the door guy at the hotel room door that night. I told the folks inside that Charlie was there, and watched them tell Maharishi. Charlie waited for an hour or so, and then stormed off, shouting those words. Later, because I was the door guy, I was the one who Maharishi told Charlie was to blame for keeping him out: They never told me. They told him. In the current account, it was Charlie *making up* a grand paranoid tale about Jerry's minions keeping him out of the room. But last year, it was MMY himself who told Charlie that. As you well know, Swami J ( recognize the phrase As you well know? :-), that part came *after* the part of the story I just retold. It happened at the airport the next day, when Charlie showed up to see Maharishi, having blown him off the night before. Charlie went up to Maharishi and said something to the effect of, I was there at the hotel last night, but they told me to wait outside. Maharishi looked Charlie straight in the eye and said, No one ever told me you were there. THAT is a LIE. I *watched* the person tell him. I *watched* MMY tell the guy to tell me to have Charlie wait. And Jerry Jarvis and a couple of other close friends (not to mention Merv and Clint) were sitting right there close enough to *hear* him say it. Jerry and the others confirmed this to me after the Charlieshit later hit the fan. But now, face to face with Charlie Lutes, Maharishi told him that No one told me. Go figure, eh? That's a Zen puzzler for those of you who think Maharishi never lies. But even more so, it's a head-scratcher for those who think Swami J never lies. She just got back from reading the earlier version of these stories, so she knows what went down, and in what sequence. But that's not quite how she told it, is it? I was once or twice the target of some of Charlie's pettiness. Do you remember the story I related here recently of being stuck on door duty the night Merv and Clint were there and Maharishi kept Charlie waiting in the hall for several hours? Well, after that particular incident, because I was the asshole at the door, Charlie decided that *I* was the one who had kept him away from MMY. The fact that I often attended his Friday night meetings and had been on very friendly terms with him up to that point didn't seem to factor into his thinking -- I was at the door, I was to blame. So he launched a campaign to get me fired from my plush :-) $500-a-month job at the Regional Office, calling Maharishi in Switzerland several times to accomplish this. (Somehow I survived.) Oops. In this version, Barry seems to have forgotten that it was MMY who told Charlie Barry was the one to have kept him out of the room. We're back to Charlie's paranoia again. Not true. Maharishi never assigned blame. If I said so earlier that was fast writing on my part. He merely lied and said to Charlie, No one ever told me you were there. Charlie *assumed* it was me who had lied to him about telling Maharishi when I came back out and told him that Maharishi had asked for him to wait. But here we do see Barry's motivation for sneaking a tape recorder into one of Charlie's lectures, in revenge for Charlie having tried to get him fired. The tape recorder incident was months before the Merv taping. As you might say, Oooopsie. :-) Or, did Charlie try to get Barry fired *because* Barry had surreptitiously taped his lecture to make him look bad, and because MMY had told him Barry and Jerry's other minions were responsible for his not being able to see MMY? Charlie never knew I taped any of his lectures. He didn't know me except to say Hi to before the incident at the airport. It was only after that that we began to hear reports of him going to Maharishi and trying to get me fired from the Regional Office. But let's spend a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF restaurant threatens lawsuit over blog entry
On Aug 27, 2007, at 11:21 PM, bob_brigante wrote: I think this is a heavily culture-influenced thing. Gupta introduced himself to me one day while I was eating at his place (it's the one of the east side of the square), and he's a man who takes a great deal of pride in his food (justifiably, for his veggie restaurant, IMO), but, as an immigrant, doesn't understand the way things are done in this society. He's been here at least 9 years. And why would an immigrant's lack of understanding of the way things are done in this society make him any more prone to threats of suing as well as reprisals against people's pets? To some extent, I would think it would make those less likely. If anything, he seems to understand all too well how things are done here, at least sometimes. Actually, I'm a little surprised that a Hindu guy who runs a vegetarian restaurant would open up a dead cow and other corpse emporium like Vivo (ha!, he needs a Latin dictionary).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Time to vote -- Who's a bigger liar and fuckhead? John or Edg?
Barry's act here, again garnished with self-serving lies, is the whole of what Barry is and how he sees himself in relationship to others and to the world. It is to him what the Absolute is to TMers; sustenance. Take away Barry's facade, his act, his audience - and there's nothing left. He's utterly terrified of that being discovered by others, but mostly he's terrified of looking at it himself. - so he just keeps running; dancing. And at least by that standard, he isn't dead ...yet. And all of this noise from the fellow named Edg, is just that, noise. He comes off like one of those cranks who knee-jerk into road rage. These people still have to grow up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Judy, I don't think my record here would support anyone thinking that I have tossed my hat into the Barry camp. In fact, he's called me on my shit more than anyone here, but he's always done it with a tender touch if you ask me. I try to be respectful of his odd stuff, cuz GAWD I've got odd stuff too. You, Judy, I've tried as hard as possible not to besmirch, cuz, I sure don't want any of the hot lead you throw at Barry. Why are you coming out so strongly when I am testifying, not to an opinion, but to an actual memory of mine? And why are you not commenting on John's name calling? It's just the teacher protecting the student. :-) Seriously, Edg. John's just acting the way he was *taught* to act over on AMT by Swami J. He actually started out thinking as little of J and her tendency to call people liars as if she had a Hotline To Truth and could *tell* when they were lying, just by the way they dotted their i's as anyone else. But John doesn't have much of a spine, so soon he switched camps and was right there beside Swami J as she cut her swath through untruth everywhere, always ready to say in a mighty, booming, voice: Yeah, that's right, Judy. or Yeah that enemy of the week sure is a phony all right. or Yeah, what she said. Can I have my cookie now? Don't blame John. As you'll figure out, he's not real bright, and tends (like his mentor) to post things that *other* people wrote to make you think he's smart enough to have read them. :-) And he mainly does what he's told by his betters. Like Charlie and Swami J. He lives in Brazil, last I heard. I doubt your lawyers can find him there, and an ex- postman's salary isn't really gonna make it worth your while.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda
Michael Dean Goodman wrote: To the best of my knowledge, no guest had ever sat down next to Maharishi on his couch, nor snuggled up against him, nor wrapped him in a hug! I've just about had it with the falsehoods being posted here. According to the moderator and three others, they have proof in the form of witnesses, one an attorney, who saw the Marshy having sex with female students during this time period. In addition, it is well known that Swami Muktananda was having sexual relations with female students for years. Yet, according to Mr. Goodman, he never once, despite having spent years in the upper echelons of the TMO, and countless hours in the presence of the Marshy, never once saw anyone wrap the Marshy in a hug, sit down next to him, or snuggle up against the Marshy. There is definitely a disconnect here somewhere and someone is lying! Why can't any of you informers just tell the truth?
[FairfieldLife] Kirk Quota
Hey Kirk, Sorry to be a pill – you know we all like having you here – but you’re now at 36 posts for the week. Please take a break ‘till Friday midnight. Rick No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
TurquoiseB wrote: Is when I got stuck being door guy at Maharishi's door the night before the second Merv taping. Stop the lying, Barry, you were never the door guy at Marshy's first or second Merv taping. You were at the door, just like the rest of the dillatantes trying to get in to see what was going on. You've vastly overinflated your status in the TMO. It was I who was Jerry's Administrative Assistant inside and I determined that you were not to be allowed inside. And why? Because you were, and still are, a trouble maker, taping everyone without their knowledge. It was you that printed up all those rediculous leaflets and posters promising 'enlightenment in 5-7' years. It was I that had to go all over town to take the silly posters down. So, you got fired from the TMO. Then you went over to another fakir, that Rama guy, and put up posters for him, promising 'instant enlightenment'. Now, you can't get into any cult so you're posting here, still try to confuse people. Go figure. Yeah, Charlie was special all right. In the same place that *his* minions were -- and seemingly are still -- special. In their minds. Yeah, you are *special* - another of God's Little Clowns.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:08 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story Because you were, and still are, a trouble maker, taping everyone without their knowledge. It was you that printed up all those rediculous leaflets and posters promising 'enlightenment in 5-7' years. That was an official movement publication that was handed out when I got initiated in 1968. Are you crazy or just joking? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:45 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda Michael Dean Goodman wrote: To the best of my knowledge, no guest had ever sat down next to Maharishi on his couch, nor snuggled up against him, nor wrapped him in a hug! I've just about had it with the falsehoods being posted here. According to the moderator and three others, they have proof in the form of witnesses, one an attorney, who saw the Marshy having sex with female students during this time period. In addition, it is well known that Swami Muktananda was having sexual relations with female students for years. Yet, according to Mr. Goodman, he never once, despite having spent years in the upper echelons of the TMO, and countless hours in the presence of the Marshy, never once saw anyone wrap the Marshy in a hug, sit down next to him, or snuggle up against the Marshy. There is definitely a disconnect here somewhere and someone is lying! Why can't any of you informers just tell the truth? It seems that no matter how clearly someone relates an experience, you misunderstand it. Michael just related the time Muktananda visited MMY, and at one point in the evening, sat next to MMY on has couch and hugged him. Hundreds of people were there and it was videotaped. I saw the tape myself. Re-read what Michael wrote – several times – and maybe it’ll become clearer. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
TurquoiseB wrote: Is when I got stuck being door guy at Maharishi's door the night before the second Merv taping. Stop the lying, Barry, you were never the door guy at Marshy's first or second Merv taping. You were at the door, just like the rest of the dillatantes trying to get in to see what was going on. You've vastly overinflated your status in the TMO. It was I who was Jerry's Administrative Assistant inside and I determined that you were not to be allowed inside. And why? Because you were, and still are, a trouble maker, taping everyone without their knowledge. It was you that printed up all those rediculous leaflets and posters promising 'enlightenment in 5-7' years. It was I that had to go all over town to take the silly posters down. So, you got fired from the TMO. Then you went over to another fakir, that Rama guy, and put up posters for him, promising 'instant enlightenment'. Now, you can't get into any cult so you're posting here, still try to confuse people. Go figure. Yeah, Charlie was special all right. In the same place that *his* minions were -- and seemingly are still -- special. In their minds. Yeah, you are *special* - another of God's Little Clowns.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:08 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story Because you were, and still are, a trouble maker, taping everyone without their knowledge. It was you that printed up all those rediculous leaflets and posters promising 'enlightenment in 5-7' years. That was an official movement publication that was handed out when I got initiated in 1968. Are you crazy or just joking? He's crazy. And I can officially call someone that but only in the state of florida. ;-) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clouds over Kalki
narcotics could be included in a leyham, it just means a paste. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namaste everybody I searched for information about Lehyam. It's not a drug, but a kind of ayurvedic medicine: LEHYAM Lehyams are thickened and sweetened extracts of a single herb or a combination of herbs, animal and mineral products. They can be called electuaries, and have the consistency of preserves or jams. A Lehya/Lehyam is best if used within a year. It should be preferably stored in wide-mouthed glass containers. Until spring 2005 The Oneness University campus housed an ayurvedic clinic, so maybe what they gave the participants was some kind of medicine. I know that people in the earliest processes were given medicine clay to clean their intestines. Maybe thats what people misunderstand or deliberately use to throw suspiscion on the Oneness Movement. The accusation, that the monks and nuns would give people on the processes LSD or other drugs are really ridiculous. The more I think about the more absurd it seems. The monks and nuns living and working in Oneness University are really sweat persons, who I have had only good experiences with. I have always felt that they were genuinely interested in the process the participants went through. Even though I have left the movement, I feel sorry that some people, Freddy N. and others, are spreading rumours like that about the Oneness University. I don't think anybody in the Oneness Movement deserve that or that their are any truth in the rumours. love Carsten _ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.9/975 - Release Date: 8/26/2007 9:34 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
On Aug 28, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Rick Archer wrote: That was an official movement publication that was handed out when I got initiated in 1968. Are you crazy or just joking? You forgot to give the option: or both. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] 'United States = Powerful and Pathetic'
Ramsay Blasts 'Kitchen Nightmares' Lawsuit By James Hibberd Hells Kitchen star Gordon Ramsay broke his silence on a lawsuit accusing the perfectionist chef of faking scenes in a New York eatery for his upcoming Fox reality show. I would never-ever-ever dream of setting anything up, Mr. Ramsay said by phone from London on Friday. I want to sleep at night. We were issued a writ because, God bless America, if the toilet paper is not thick enough and you come out with a rash on your ass [youll get sued]. In his new show, Kitchen Nightmares, Mr. Ramsay visits struggling restaurants and tries to help owners turn around their businesses. Manhattan restaurant manager Martin Hyde was fired during the filming of a Nightmares episode, then filed a $1 million lawsuit in U.S. District Court against Mr. Ramsay and the shows producers in June. Mr. Hyde accused Nightmares of planting spoiled meat, fixing a chair to fall apart and hiring actors to pose as guests lending the appearance of a successful makeover. Earlier this month, a judge tossed the suit into arbitration. The idea of bringing moldy food in and planting actors is a f**king joke, Mr. Ramsay said. Theres a man who got very scared and very embarrassed about his lack of professionalism. For a man to waste lawyers time and taxpayers money to get upset about something youre the cause of... The lawsuit said Mr. Hyde urged his boss to invite Mr. Ramsays Nightmares production to the restaurant, only to be singled out as a scapegoat by producers who needed a camera-ready villain for the show. [Mr. Hyde] wasnt the one in charge of the kitchen, said Mr. Hydes attorney, Carl Person. The person responsible left the restaurant a week earlier. Theyre going to make him appear he was the one in charge and he wasnt. Theyre setting him up. The New York lawsuit is similar to an allegation against the popular UK version of Nightmares, where a restaurant went out of business after the show revealed rotting food in its kitchen. Mr. Ramsay won a lawsuit against a newspaper that claimed the show was staged. I dont want to start that kind of bullshit over here, he said. You know it just scares me that litigation can just happen overnight, and then youre on the defense. A crew member on the U.S. version of Nightmares previously told TelevisionWeek that restaurants aided on the show were so disgusting, we didnt need to do anything for them to look bad. The source also said the production does help stock the restaurant with local patrons for some scenes, but they werent told to lie about their experience, only to be entertaining for the camera: If you like the food, then really like it. If you dont, then really dont. Both Mr. Ramsay and Mr. Person said the Nightmares raw camera footage will vindicate their respective sides of the story. We found extraordinary droppings from rats and the most unhygienic kitchen Ive ever seen in my career, Mr. Ramsay said. There should be a government health warning before the program saying all dinner should be consumed before watching this program. Mr. Person acknowledged there may have been sanitation issues at the restaurant, which the lawsuit notes was closed by the New York Board of Health about a week after the episode was shot. Every restaurant has mouse droppings, he said. Mr. Person also said Mr. Ramsay to some extent, may not know whats going on behind the scenes of his own show. But Mr. Person maintained much of the production is showmanship and that his client was unfairly targeted for humiliation. Fox premieres Nightmares on Sept. 19, the same night as another fall reality series attracting production controversy, CBSs Kid Nation. Though Fox has been silent about the Nightmares lawsuit and declined to comment, Mr. Ramsay has never been shy about speaking his mind. Trying to say I set up a wobbly chair, Mr. Ramsay said, his voice full of disgust at the lawsuit. This is supposed to be the most powerful nation in the world, not the most pathetic. A full interview with Gordon Ramsay about his career in reality television will appear in the Sept. 3 issue of TelevisionWeek and online on Monday. - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Pearl in the Guru Gita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Verse 121: Shri Mahadeva said: Pinda is Kundalini Shakti. Hamsa (OSpontaneous repetiton of Hamsa) is pada. Know rupa to be the bindu (blue pearl) and rupatita is the pure One (beyond the three.) This seems to be a reference to the spiritual third eye or ajna chakra which is threefold; the first *experience* is a sphere or circle made of gold color within which is the blue (pearl), within this blue (pearl) is a five pointed white star, which upon entering one achieves Cosmic Consciousness or complete freedom in the eternal Silence beyond all relativity, Nirvikalpa Samadhi.
[FairfieldLife] 'Peace. Love TM in Northern Iowa'
The Summer of Love changed a generation of North IowansBy KRISTIN BUEHNER, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Click photo to enlargeThe 1967 Summer of Love and the counterculture movement it inspired sought to transform America into a kinder, gentler society. In ways big and small and in ways not always positive it affected the lives of the people who lived through it, North Iowans and former North Iowans said. * I try to stay informed, said Mason City resident JOANN HARDY, 57. And I dont always believe what (the government) tells us. She decided that no president was ever going to take her sons in a draft for a war that we didnt need to be in. To this day, Hardy attends open-door meetings with congressmen, senators and presidential candidates and writes letters to people in government. She has also been active in peace activities including Habitat for Humanity and work through her church, and she has organized local Communities Responding to Overcome Poverty (CROP) Walks to fight world hunger. * Mason City resident GRETCHEN (BIEBESHEIMER) KING, 58, a 1967 graduate of Mason City High School, majored in English in college, but has lived in a world of arts and crafts and modest consumption as a result of the counterculture movement of the late 1960s and early 1970s, she said. A jewelry artisan and upholsterer, King raised her two daughters with values such as pacifism. I was not mainstream, she said. She gave birth to her daughters, who were born in California and North Carolina, at home with the help of midwives. To this day, she cooks from scratch using home-grown foods to the extent possible. Im an old hippie, she acknowledges. * The interesting career choices of Mason City native PENNE FRANKS SIMON, 58, of New Brighton, Minn., also reflect the times in which she came of age. A 1967 graduate of MCHS, she obtained a nursing degree from the University of Iowa in 1972. In 1989, she studied glass-blowing and opened her own glass-blowing studio. In October 1972, Simon and her then-husband traveled to Mallorca, Spain, to take the first long-term training course for teachers of Transcendental Meditation. We had started meditating in November 1970, the year after we married, she said. We spent five months on Mallorca and then the entire course moved to Fiuggi Fonte, Italy, where we finished our training, finally heading back to the United States in late June 1973. The couple moved from Iowa City to Minneapolis to teach at the International Meditation Society. Simon taught TM until 1974, when her son was born. She served as liaison between the medical community and the Meditation Center, as well as community and mental health nursing consultant for the TM Center. My decision to study with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi probably disappointed my parents far more than they ever let on, she said. They felt I was throwing away my nursing degree. My brother thought I was nuts. I felt I was enhancing my life and gaining more knowledge. I still feel that way. * Mason City native BARB (TIDBALL) FONKERT, 58, now of St. Paul, Minn., said the civil rights movement is what prompted her to go into social work. I felt that was my calling, she said. Disaster planner for the Minnesota Department of Public Safety Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, she also graduated from MCHS in 1967. She was exposed to the civil rights movement while a student at Luther College in Decorah. Our dad had drilled into us that you treat everybody with respect, Fonkert said. It indicated to me that we had a dichotomy here. It just didnt sit well. We were disrespecting people who were not like us and that included the soldiers from Vietnam. I was impressed with the vigor of the civil rights movement and the passion. It fueled my interest into being passionate about social work. Another concept Fonkert came to believe in strongly during her college days was the need for population control. There was a lot of discussion about it on campus, she said. When I got married, we decided to have two kids and thats it. Fonkert said she has tried to raise her daughters to have respect for others and for what they do for a living. Society is important, she said. Its not just me. Its what I do in my community, how I live, how I am a citizen in my community. * Social consciousness also formed a major part of the life of 1967 MCHS graduate JERRY WETTERLING, 58, a chiropractor in St. Joseph, Minn. In 1973, he became a member of the Bahai Faith, an independent religion that proposes the validity of all religions and advocates the elimination of prejudices of any nature, he said. In 1987, he served as president of the St. Cloud, Minn., branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Since 2001, Wetterling has served as co-chairman of Understanding the Need for
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bottom line: Barry's oft-told tales have a tendency to, shall we say, evolve, depending on whose ox he's attempting to gore at the time. Of course, we never know what convenient variations from reality may have affected the tales he tells only once... The Movement has been full of lunatics. For example, who knows what serious mischief WYMS would have gotten into if Maharishi did not take them under his wings. Almost all of them had high level nazi fathers or close relatives BTW. Now this turqey/barry/whatever character obviously is lying his brains out, but then again standing at the door didn't require much of a brain. Can anyone confirm that he was doing this ? Someone who actually saw him, not just listened to his creative bragging ? ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'United States = Powerful and Pathetic'
In a message dated 8/28/07 11:16:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: “Hell’s Kitchen” star Gordon Ramsay broke his silence on a lawsuit accusing the perfectionist chef of faking scenes in a New York eatery for his upcoming Fox reality show. Gordon is one short tempered bloke. Maybe he aught to do a few shows with Kim Woodburn and Aggie McAllister on How Clean is Your House. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clouds over Kalki
The accusation, that the monks and nuns would give people on the processes LSD or other drugs are really ridiculous. The more I think about the more absurd it seems. The monks and nuns living and working in Oneness University are really sweat persons, who I have had only good experiences with. I have always felt that they were genuinely interested in the process the participants went through. If narcotics were being added to the leyham, the sweet monks and nuns would know nothing about it - that's a higher up decision and given the typical authoritarian nature of guru-avatar groups like this, it would never occur to the sweet monks and nuns to investigate. Most of the lieutenants in spiritual groups are sweet and well meaning, but horrible things have gone on in many of these groups. I give credit to the sweet monks and nuns in the Hare Krishna group who were in disbelief when allegations of child abuse in their schools came out, but eventually come around to the evidence and are now paying out millions in settlements. It seems a pretty risky move by Kalki to add drugs to the leyham. I don't completely discount it though, because people in that mov't are experience junkies and their guru-avatar is a money junkie, and so he must make sure that the flashy inner experiences keep coming to keep the cash flow coming. I'd like to hear more from people who took the leyham to learn what their experience was (besides pooping more).
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi and Muktananda
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[FairfieldLife] Signs of the time - UFO sightsings
UFO sightings Benjamin Creme's Master's article `The gathering of the Forces of Light' (Share International March 2007 ) begins: Important events are taking place in many parts of the world. People everywhere will be astonished by the reports. These will include sightings, in unprecedented numbers, of spacecraft from our neighbouring planets, Mars and Venus in particular. Nothing like this increased activity, over vast areas of the Earth, will have been seen before. Those who have steadfastly refused to take seriously the reality of this phenomenon will find it difficult to deny. More and more accounts of contact with the occupants of the spacecraft will add their testimony to the fact of their existence. Miraculous happenings of all kinds will continue and multiply in number and variety. The minds of men will be baffled and amazed by these wonders, and this will cause them to ponder deeply . Exactly as predicted, this year has seen an impressive number of reports of UFOs in many parts of the world and an increase in the crop circle phenomena, with ever new and various forms of patterns. UFOs over Ontario, Canada A Canadian man photographed four white oblong shapes in the sky on 29 July 2007. Scott Fraser, a resident of Orillia, Ontario, said the shapes burst like rockets over the western horizon then rose vertically before moving south at high speed. I really honestly don't know what they were, said Fraser, who was photographing the sunset when one of his friends saw the white shapes appear in the sky. The movements the flying objects made, he said, were too quick and sharp for conventional aircraft. (Source: www.orilliapacket.com) (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that the flying objects were spaceships from Mars.) UFOs over the UK Dozens of people in the town of Stratford-Upon-Avon, England, saw five UFOs in the sky on 21 July 2007. Crowds gathered to view the objects hovering in formation for about 30 minutes. The lights became visible at about 10.30 pm. Witnesses said the speed of the objects was unlike any known aircraft and that the unusual movement patterns, lack of noise and the length of time in the air discounted the possibility of a man-made phenomenon. One witness said: We walked outside and there was at that time a growing crowd of about 60 people looking up at something in the sky. I saw a light appear, then three others. They came over our heads in formation but then moved into different positions. Three had formed a triangular shape and one was to the right. Then another one came hurtling towards the rest at what looked like a very fast speed. But as it neared them it suddenly slowed and stopped altogether. By this time more people had poured out onto the street and drivers slowed their cars. The objects were there for about half an hour. They didn't make any sound and they stayed still before moving slowly beyond the horizon. There were no stars in the sky, just them. (Source: www.dailymail.co.uk) (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that the flying objects were spaceships from Mars.) UFOs over Wales Several residents of Wrexham, Wales, and the surrounding area saw red lights in the sky in the early hours of 25 July 2007. Lynn Williams of Wrexham saw lights that moved silently and at great speed above her house. Two of them were flying round each other. They were flying very close together, closer than planes. They were going so fast I couldn't focus on them. I ran inside and got my camcorder. I thought they could be helicopters but when I zoomed in I was scared to death. They were glowing red in the middle They weren't like anything I have seen before. For the lights to be so low there had to be some noise if they were planes. A police officer from the nearby town of Acton, said he saw the lights while on patrol. There is no way this was a hoax; I would not have seen them from Acton if they were. They were very high up; there's no way anyone can control anything from that distance. There were several `floating' in the sky in a pack. I thought they were helicopters or similar, however there was no sound whatsoever. (Source: www.eveningleader.co.uk, www.Flintshirestandard.co.uk) (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that the lights were spaceships from Mars.) Another bumper crop! 2007 has been a great year for crop circle formations in the UK. By mid-August 47 patterns had been reported. While mainstream media has never investigated the phenomenon seriously, websites record the latest news and photographs of patterns. Thousands of people travel each summer to Wiltshire, southern England, to visit the crop circles. So far this year 88 crop circles, of increasing intricacy, have also been reported in other parts of the world: Germany (18); Netherlands (13), Czech Republic (1), Slovenia (3), Norway (2), Poland (2), France (1), Switzerland (6), Croatia (1), USA (6), Italy (22), Belgium (11) and Sweden (2). Benjamin
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few of the details in Barry's account didn't quite sound right to me, so I decided to check on the earlier versions Barry has related on FFL and alt.m.t. Compare and contrast; here's Barry's latest FFL version: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Is when I got stuck being door guy at Maharishi's door the night before the second Merv taping. Charlie arrived, I went inside and told one of the guys inside that he was there, watched him walk up to Maharishi and tell him that Charlie was there, and then come back to me and say, Maharishi said to have him wait. Charlie waited, fuming. He stood there for a while, among all the dozen or so other people waiting outside the door, and then he started to pace. Finally, after about half an hour, he announced in a large voice, It's been over an hour! I wouldn't wait an hour to see Jesus Christ. I'm leaving. And he did. *That* is Charlie Lutes. He wanted what he had at the very beginning of the TM movement, to be special. He was kept out of the room because some important network people were in there and Maharishi was afraid he'd embarrass him. And, rather than wait outside with all the other peons, Charlie stalked off in a snit, and then made up a grand paranoid tale about Jerry's minions keeping him out of the room. *Maharishi* kept him out of the room, and kept him waiting in the hallway with all the other peons. And Charlie was too special to wait with all the others. Half an hour among the Great Unwashed was as far as his devotion went. Yeah, Charlie was special all right. In the same place that *his* minions were -- and seemingly are still -- special. In their minds. And here's an earlier version from FFL, a year ago: LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like Maharishi, an hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for Jesus Christ! Yup, almost word for word. I was the door guy at the hotel room door that night. I told the folks inside that Charlie was there, and watched them tell Maharishi. Charlie waited for an hour or so, and then stormed off, shouting those words. Later, because I was the door guy, I was the one who Maharishi told Charlie was to blame for keeping him out: They never told me. They told him. In the current account, it was Charlie *making up* a grand paranoid tale about Jerry's minions keeping him out of the room. But last year, it was MMY himself who told Charlie that. Note also that a year ago, Charlie hung around for an hour or so, not just 30 minutes. Now from alt.m.t: There *were* a great number of roaring assholes in the SIMS org at that time, many of them carried away with their own self importance and the mistaken belief that it was up to them to protect the purity of the teaching. And many of them felt that Charlie was a challenge to that purity, because of his tendency to not attribute the things he taught to their proper source. Here again, Barry was willing to acknowledge that Charlie's paranoia actually had a basis. I was once or twice the target of some of Charlie's pettiness. Do you remember the story I related here recently of being stuck on door duty the night Merv and Clint were there and Maharishi kept Charlie waiting in the hall for several hours? Well, after that particular incident, because I was the asshole at the door, Charlie decided that *I* was the one who had kept him away from MMY. The fact that I often attended his Friday night meetings and had been on very friendly terms with him up to that point didn't seem to factor into his thinking -- I was at the door, I was to blame. So he launched a campaign to get me fired from my plush :-) $500-a-month job at the Regional Office, calling Maharishi in Switzerland several times to accomplish this. (Somehow I survived.) Oops. In this version, Barry seems to have forgotten that it was MMY who told Charlie Barry was the one to have kept him out of the room. We're back to Charlie's paranoia again. But here we do see Barry's motivation for sneaking a tape recorder into one of Charlie's lectures, in revenge for Charlie having tried to get him fired. Or, did Charlie try to get Barry fired *because* Barry had surreptitiously taped his lecture to make him look bad, and because MMY had told him Barry and Jerry's other minions were responsible for his not being able to see MMY? Only Barry knows what the time sequence was here. But one way or another, it appears that Charlie had plenty of reason to dislike and distrust Barry. I was in a position several times to see how Maharishi treated Charlie. He often kept him waiting in hallways for *hours*, knowing full well that he was there,
[FairfieldLife] Wonderful long Maharishi talks -- from the sixties
I'm a new member, so please accept my apologies if this is old information to you you. I was sent the following email froma current Purusha member and thought Fairfield Life members would enjoy the following links. Bill Vosteen Dear Friends, These wonderful talks can be heard on the internet. Sometimes these links don't seem to work. If that is the case, try later. It's worth the effort. These talks are pure gems, and will thrill your heart. Humboldt MMY Audios: A Beautiful Question (58 min.) http://www.box.net/shared/3oa0otuly8 Love Knows No Reason (One Hour, 11 min.) http://www.box.net/shared/6alnochld4 Mother Nature (14 min.) http://www.box.net/shared/eiqmpicpop MMY Audio: Unity and Prayer From: Humboldt State College http://www.box.net/shared/kxb6l5xl8x 1. MMY on Kundalini from Lake Louise, Canada 1968 http://www.box.net/shared/by1nmnoznv 2. MMY - Expressions ofIndividuality from Infinity - Humboldt http://www.box.net/shared/06vgkogoz2 3. and 4. parts 1 and 2. Residence course with Satyanand and Jerry Jarvis - Cape Cod, Mass 1968 Part 1: http://www.box.net/shared/v7sfm3vx4q Part 2: http://www.box.net/shared/dr9kyu9lxo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
On Aug 28, 2007, at 2:27 PM, BillyG. wrote: I think she raises some serious concerns.. Naw, just a typical Judy game. It's just what one would naturally expect for an old story, told casually from memory, many years later, at different times. Remember this is casual speech, not research science or a history text: it's off the cuff. Judy tries her darndest to try to divert attention from this simple human fact; casual speech does not adhere to the same conventions as a published history texts. What does raise serious concerns is that someone would actually spend SO MUCH time stalking the poster of an object of hatred. Notice in the older quotes, Turq uses qualifying statements that indicate the general nature of response: ALMOST word for word Charlie waited and hour OR SO etc. It's very clearly casual, off the cuff speech: precisely what one would expect for recalling events long since passed and Turq is very responsible in his deliberately generalized delivery. This indicates to a discerning and honest reader his actual intent to talk in general terms, not specifics. -Vaj The editor's editor For any editors on this list who don't know the definition of the words emphasized above, I've included the definitions below for your convenience and your continuing education: almost |ôlˈmōst; ˈôlˌmōst| |ɔlˌmoʊst| |ˌɔlmoʊst| | ˌɔːlməʊst| adverb not quite; very nearly so 1 |sō| |soʊ| |səʊ| adverb 1 [as submodifier ] to such a great extent : the words tumbled out so fast that I could barely hear them | don't look so worried | I'm not so foolish as to say that. • extremely; very much (used for emphasis) : she looked so pretty | I do love it so. • informal used to emphasize a clause or negative statement : that's so not fair | you are so going to regret this. • informal used with a gesture to indicate size : the bird was about so long. 2 [as submodifier ] [with negative ] to the same extent (used in comparisons) : he isn't so bad as you'd think | without his parents’ support, he would not have done so well. 3 referring back to something previously mentioned • that is the case : “Is it going to rain?” “I think so.” | if she notices, she never says so. • the truth : I hear that you're a writer—is that so? • similarly; and also : times have changed and so have I. • expressing agreement : “It’s cold in here.” “So it is.” • informal used to emphatically contradict a negative statement : it is so! 4 in the way described or demonstrated; thus : hold your arms so | so it was that he was still a bachelor. conjunction 1 and for this reason; therefore : it was still painful, so I went to see a specialist | you know I'm telling the truth, so don't interrupt. • ( so that) with the result that : it was overgrown with brambles, so that I had difficulty making any progress. 2 ( so that) with the aim that; in order that : they whisper to each other so that no one else can hear. 3 and then; as the next step : and so to the finals. 4 introducing a question : so, what did you do today? • introducing a question following on from what was said previously : so what did he do about it? • (also so what?) informal why should that be considered significant? : “Marv is wearing a suit.” “So?” | so what if he failed? 5 introducing a statement that is followed by a defensive comment : so I like anchovies—what's wrong with that? 6 introducing a concluding statement : so that's that. 7 in the same way; correspondingly : just as bad money drives out good, so does bad art drive out the good. PHRASES and so on (or forth) and similar things; et cetera : these snacks include cheeses, cold meats, and so on. just so much chiefly derogatory emphasizing a large amount of something : it's just so much ideological cant. not so much —— as —— not —— but rather —— : the novel was not so much unfinished as unfinishable. only so much a limited amount : there is only so much you can do to protect yourself. or so see or 1 . so as to do something in order to do something : she had put her hair up so as to look older. so be it an expression of acceptance or resignation. so far see far . so far, so good see far . so long! informal goodbye until we meet again. so long as see long 1 . so many (or much) indicating a particular but unspecified quantity : so many hours at such-and-such a speed. so much as [with negative ] even : he sat down without so much as a word to anyone. so much for 1 indicating that one has finished talking about something : So much for the melodic line. We now turn our attention to the accompaniment. 2 suggesting that something has not been successful or useful : so much for that idea! so much so that to such an extent that : I was fascinated by the company, so much so that I wrote a book about it. so to speak (or say) used to highlight the fact that one is describing something in an unusual or metaphorical way : delving into
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
That was an official movement publication that was handed out when I got initiated in 1968. Are you crazy or just joking? Peter wrote: He's crazy. And I can officially call someone that but only in the state of florida. ;-) So, you're the doctor who sold non-sense gibberish for money and passed out leaflets promising 'enlightenment in 5-7 years' but I'm crazy. Some 'doctor' you turned out to be, Peter!
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
It was you that printed up all those rediculous leaflets and posters promising 'enlightenment in 5-7' years. Rick Archer wrote: That was an official movement publication that was handed out when I got initiated in 1968. What? You're saying that you got handed a leaflet promising enlightenment in '5-7 years' and yet you STILL went for the initiation? What an idiot! Are you crazy or just joking? So, you got initiated on a promise that you would achieve enlightenment in 5-7 years, and then for years you sold non-sense gibberish syllables for money, but I'm crazy. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda
Rick Archer wrote: It seems that no matter how clearly someone relates an experience, you misunderstand it. Michael just related the time Muktananda visited MMY, and at one point in the evening, sat next to MMY on has couch and hugged him. Hundreds of people were there and it was videotaped. I saw the tape myself. Re-read what Michael wrote several times and maybe it'll become clearer. But according to Mr. Goodman, he never once, despite having spent years in the upper echelons of the TMO, and countless hours in the presence of the Marshy, never once saw anyone wrap the Marshy in a hug, sit down next to him, or snuggle up against the Marshy, but you and the others are convinced that the Marshy took to bed countless female students over a number of years for the purpose of sexual gratification. There is definitely a disconnect here somewhere and someone is lying! Michael Dean Goodman wrote: To the best of my knowledge, no guest had ever sat down next to Maharishi on his couch, nor snuggled up against him, nor wrapped him in a hug! Richard J. Williams wrote: I've just about had it with the falsehoods being posted here. According to the moderator and three others, they have proof in the form of witnesses, one an attorney, who saw the Marshy having sex with female students during this time period. In addition, it is well known that Swami Muktananda was having sexual relations with female students for years. Yet, according to Mr. Goodman, he never once, despite having spent years in the upper echelons of the TMO, and countless hours in the presence of the Marshy, never once saw anyone wrap the Marshy in a hug, sit down next to him, or snuggle up against the Marshy. There is definitely a disconnect here somewhere and someone is lying! Why can't any of you informers just tell the truth?
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was an official movement publication that was handed out when I got initiated in 1968. Are you crazy or just joking? Peter wrote: He's crazy. And I can officially call someone that but only in the state of florida. ;-) So, you're the doctor who sold non-sense gibberish for money and passed out leaflets promising 'enlightenment in 5-7 years' but I'm crazy. Some 'doctor' you turned out to be, Peter! Does anyone know willy? Is he really as delusional as he sounds??
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda Rick Archer wrote: It seems that no matter how clearly someone relates an experience, you misunderstand it. Michael just related the time Muktananda visited MMY, and at one point in the evening, sat next to MMY on has couch and hugged him. Hundreds of people were there and it was videotaped. I saw the tape myself. Re-read what Michael wrote – several times – and maybe it'll become clearer. But according to Mr. Goodman, he never once, despite having spent years in the upper echelons of the TMO, and countless hours in the presence of the Marshy, never once saw anyone wrap the Marshy in a hug, sit down next to him, or snuggle up against the Marshy, but you and the others are convinced that the Marshy took to bed countless female students over a number of years for the purpose of sexual gratification. It’s clear from Michael’s account that Muktananda hugged him as a fellow yogi. It wasn’t sexual. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda Rick Archer wrote: It seems that no matter how clearly someone relates an experience, you misunderstand it. Michael just related the time Muktananda visited MMY, and at one point in the evening, sat next to MMY on has couch and hugged him. Hundreds of people were there and it was videotaped. I saw the tape myself. Re-read what Michael wrote several times and maybe it'll become clearer. But according to Mr. Goodman, he never once, despite having spent years in the upper echelons of the TMO, and countless hours in the presence of the Marshy, never once saw anyone wrap the Marshy in a hug, sit down next to him, or snuggle up against the Marshy, but you and the others are convinced that the Marshy took to bed countless female students over a number of years for the purpose of sexual gratification. It's clear from Michael's account that Muktananda hugged him as a fellow yogi. It wasn't sexual. Hi Rick, This photo was printed in East-West magazine. You'll want to review the March-April 1977 issue. Swami Kriyananda is on the cover of the mag. I agree, the hug wasn't sexual but one of two friends in a friendly embrace. Maharishi appears to be laughing and was very much in good spirits on this occasion. Peace, Marc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kirk Quota
So do I also have to stop my reading? Or breathing? How about I just up and off myself. This is just more TM O cultish bullshit and you're perpetuating it. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Kirk Quota Hey Kirk, Sorry to be a pill – you know we all like having you here – but you’re now at 36 posts for the week. Please take a break ‘till Friday midnight. Rick No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 28, 2007, at 2:27 PM, BillyG. wrote: I think she raises some serious concerns.. Naw, just a typical Judy game. It's just what one would naturally expect for an old story, told casually from memory, many years later, at different times. Remember this is casual speech, not research science or a history text: it's off the cuff. Judy tries her darndest to try to divert attention from this simple human fact; casual speech does not adhere to the same conventions as a published history texts. What does raise serious concerns is that someone would actually spend SO MUCH time stalking the poster of an object of hatred. Not to mention doing it for the express purpose of vilifying one of her enemies, cutting things out of various tellings of the stories, presenting them out of order and out of context, and *then*, in the same post, vilifying me for tape recording Charlie Lutes and *not* editing any of the tapes to make him look bad. The mind boggles. What did she spend half an hour searching Google Groups for, if *not* to make someone look bad? The sheer hypocrisy of it boggles my mind. But my mind has been boggled by Swami J for some time now. The extent of her insanity is no longer even amusing; it just causes sadness. It's like being around a really hard case bag lady. You'd love to feel sorry for her, but she just *smells* so bad, man. In this case, the smell is her mindset, what it says about her, and what it says about meditation. Notice in the older quotes, Turq uses qualifying statements that indicate the general nature of response: ALMOST word for word Charlie waited and hour OR SO etc. It's very clearly casual, off the cuff speech: precisely what one would expect for recalling events long since passed and Turq is very responsible in his deliberately generalized delivery. This indicates to a discerning and honest reader his actual intent to talk in general terms, not specifics. Thanks for getting how I write, Vaj. And thanks, too, for weathering this place -- and Swami J -- for as long as you have. I'm thinking about bailing. It might be an interesting thing to do when moving to a new country. It's really gotten to be such a *bringdown* to read these posts (even skipping the posts of now a half- dozen people) and realize where they're *at* after three or four decades on a spiritual path. It's enough to make one want to give up on the whole thing. I fully understand why geezerfreak doesn't post, and why Curtis and Marek post so seldom, and why others have bailed. You read a couple of days of the still- holding-a-torch-for-Maharishi posters' thoughts and you just want to CRY, man. There's so much beauty and joy in this world, and these people get off on petty arguments and spiritual dick size contests. And they feel so knowledgeable and superior, while being so incredibly uninformed about the larger spiritual world around them. It just makes you sad. And Swami J herself. Where does one start? She postures as the defender of all things TM here, and she's never been in the same room with Maharishi. Just *imagine* how many opportunities she had over the years to see him, for cheap. Just *imagine* the resistance to having her idealized dreams of him shattered that *kept* her from seeing him all these decades. The stalking me -- that's understandable...she's insane. But the *not* stalking a spiritual teacher she professes to admire, at least to the point of having gone out of her way to see him *once* before he died -- that's just not as understandable to me. It just doesn't seem to fit with the image she tries so hard to project. There is some abject *fear* of the infinite there to have spent this many years without having tried to actually meet the man she imagines the embodiment of infinity. I'm just sick of it. It was such a pleasure to be able to just *rap* here for a few days, without her stalk- ing me. But bam! she's back, and bam! the stalking begins again. Fuck her and the horse she rode in on. I'm just trying my best not to allow her to do what she has been trying *her* best to do since my first posts to alt.meditation.transcendental -- drive me off the forum. She's done it to so many others, which is why I spoke up about her act when I'd first sussed it out. Rick has stood up to her and her minions and not allowed them to overwhelm this forum with posts as she has done to so many others, and thus drive off any dissenting voices. But I may allow her to drive me off of this forum after all. She can finally win. But in a way I win, because I don't have to be exposed to a professional bringdown any more. Tonight I sat out on the bank of the river and watched the full moon rise. And man! my heart was as full as that moon. Life was just vibrating with aliveness and infinity. And then I log on here and read a few posts and it's a very different
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened dealing with the family, Ashram needed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namaste Louis, Am glad the poem was felt within. This one's husband can't appreciate Awakening at present only because he doesn't Understand it. snip You may want to integrate your Awakening, so that anyone can understand it, more through your actions and your Being, vs your words. Know Thy Audience-- my wife and I both meditate together each day. Nonetheless I have had experiences she hasn't-- I might mention something, or I just keep it to myself, for decades. No need to always share concepts and experiences-- just allow your Awakeing to make you a better person. Or make it your job that your husband understands your enlightenment from his perspective, not always yours.:-) 000 - Humanity, on this Beautiful Planet Earth, is at an urgent crossroads. Life here is indeed Heaven on Earth, but remains a Paradise (the Glorious Garden of Eden) unnoticed by most. However, with the age of techology, combined with egos gone absolutely mad, life as lived by all of earth's inhabitants could be quashed in an instant. One must Surrender to Grace so this Freedom can be Lived and shared with any and all who will listen. An ashram would be of ENORMOUS benefit to Humanity, which is of course, ONE-SELF. snip What do you need an ashram for? So you can hide in it, and pretend that it is all pure and special? With all due respect, either BE the ashram yourself, or forget about it.:-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'United States = Powerful and Pathetic'
Maybe you aught to consider how retarded most kitchen help really is by working for one. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'United States = Powerful and Pathetic' In a message dated 8/28/07 11:16:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: “Hell’s Kitchen” star Gordon Ramsay broke his silence on a lawsuit accusing the perfectionist chef of faking scenes in a New York eatery for his upcoming Fox reality show. Gordon is one short tempered bloke. Maybe he aught to do a few shows with Kim Woodburn and Aggie McAllister on How Clean is Your House. -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Signs of the time - UFO sightsings
There is only one spacecraft in this entire everything and that's God's Dog Leviathan. He's a flying snakoid dragonish puppy with a huge need to play and entire creations to do it in. He is the source of burning Earth's core and will leave when he is called. the rest of the space stuff is bullshit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm thinking about bailing. It might be an interesting thing to do when moving to a new country. It's really gotten to be such a *bringdown* to read these posts (even skipping the posts of now a half- dozen people) and realize where they're *at* after three or four decades on a spiritual path. It's enough to make one want to give up on the whole thing. snip Then just quit your incessant whining about how all of these people in your world don't do x, y, and z, and you wished they did x, y, and z. Its boring. It makes you sound boring. Get some cajones and follow through on your intent. Don't just dance to the edge of the precipice, again, and again, and again, and again. Jump! For God's sake, Jump!:-)
[FairfieldLife] The Sagging Jowled Spewer of Tamas
All the below is my opinion. Judy, IMO, you're blasting me for the GREAT SIN of having had polite conversations with Barry and thereby, IMO, you've decided that I'm to be a target of yours. So, probably it's no surprise to anyone here that you've played your same ol' same ol' card, nor will it surprise anyone, IMO, that since I didn't sing your praises for your hating of Turq, that now, yep, I'm a bad guy too. The word hating is my opinion, but maybe I should just ask you straight out: do you hate Turq? If not, what is the emotion you're having that promotes such obsessive counter punching? It sure ain't any form of tough love. It sure ain't sattvic. If Turq is the loser you seem to think he is, well, then he's so lost, so out-of-it, that shame on you for picking on the insane. If you are attacking him like you do and if you are thinking he's not insane, then you must be thinking he's evil -- worthy of hating. If you're thinking that the word evil is okay then, you really are in trouble to be projecting such. IMO, you've been wanting a chance to really lay into me; in fact, IT SEEMS for some time now you've festered. So don't be coy; be the hag that IMO you seem to want to be. If you are a hag, show your true face here -- the photograph that I've seen of you here online is wrinkled with, IMO, angst-plowed troughs in blotched skin -- a face of simmering hate brought on by endless grimacing that I seem to see daily worn by you here. If you continue to attack me, I will be inspired to disclose what, IMO, is your general ugliness, and I'm betting that I will find and cite post after post of yours that plainly shows stupidity, mean-heartedness, egoic attachment to falsities, failed spirituality, general all around low esteem, a self image of inconsequentiality, and deep fears such as I'm an old woman seeing death around the corner, and all I can do is strike out at others in blind panic. After all, I've seen what was purported to be your photograph, and if that wasn't you, well, it sure seemed to be a good match for the spiritual degredation that you've shown here. Your photograph, IMO, is reason enough for you to change your name and stop posting anywhere on the Internet. IMO, you must have not had any love in your life for at least a decade -- given the sad, depressed countenance that I think was plainly showing in your photograph. I've seen similar faces sitting in the day rooms of the mental hospitals where I gave first lectures. If you are insane, of course, then I pity you and take back any assertions or opinions of mindful evil on your part. Seems mindful to me though. And, if mindful, then you're up for the Skank of Fairfield Life award. For all your intelligence and perceptiveness, IMO, you're stupid and blind in your angry obsessions. Now, trot out your naughty words about me again; call me a liar or fuckhead if you want to. It'll be like you are my creative writing instructor telling me what essay I should next write about The Sagging Jowled Spewer of Tamas. Those who've known you in so many of your online incarnations can fill me in perhaps, and I'll just love putting those stories into my own words. Funzies! All of the above is MY OPINION about your inner and outer moral and spiritual worth. In a word, decrepitude. Turn about's fair play; how's it working for you? Want more? Got tons, just ask. Edg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wonderful long Maharishi talks -- from the sixties
Hey, we get around. Maybe the cultish five posts nonsense will take over the net. Then I can retire from it entirely. Tell you guys what. I leave the group for months at a time so I figure I have built up some creds. I'll probably leave again tomorrow or next week, so how's that for posting limits? If chronic fuckheads like right handed kundalini off worlds and john manners can post here for months at five a day then I have catching up to do.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
So, you got initiated on a promise that you would achieve enlightenment in 5-7 years, and then for years you sold non-sense gibberish syllables for money, but I'm crazy. Go figure. -Rick's an easy con but that doesn't make him a bad person by any means, so stop funnin around Dickey Deadeye.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
I don't know Richard, but he isn't as delusional as he sounds. Being delusional apparently is his religion, ask him. Thus he's perfectly correct, kind of like the rest of us.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sagging Jowled Spewer of Tamas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the below is my opinion. Judy, IMO, you're blasting me for the GREAT SIN of having had polite conversations with Barry and thereby, IMO, you've decided that I'm to be a target of yours. So, probably it's no surprise to anyone here that you've played your same ol' same ol' card, nor will it surprise anyone, IMO, that since I didn't sing your praises for your hating of Turq, that now, yep, I'm a bad guy too. The word hating is my opinion, but maybe I should just ask you straight out: do you hate Turq? If not, what is the emotion you're having that promotes such obsessive counter punching? It sure ain't any form of tough love. It sure ain't sattvic. If Turq is the loser you seem to think he is, well, then he's so lost, so out-of-it, that shame on you for picking on the insane. If you are attacking him like you do and if you are thinking he's not insane, then you must be thinking he's evil -- worthy of hating. If you're thinking that the word evil is okay then, you really are in trouble to be projecting such. IMO, you've been wanting a chance to really lay into me; in fact, IT SEEMS for some time now you've festered. So don't be coy; be the hag that IMO you seem to want to be. If you are a hag, show your true face here -- the photograph that I've seen of you here online is wrinkled with, IMO, angst-plowed troughs in blotched skin -- a face of simmering hate brought on by endless grimacing that I seem to see daily worn by you here. If you continue to attack me, I will be inspired to disclose what, IMO, is your general ugliness, and I'm betting that I will find and cite post after post of yours that plainly shows stupidity, mean-heartedness, egoic attachment to falsities, failed spirituality, general all around low esteem, a self image of inconsequentiality, and deep fears such as I'm an old woman seeing death around the corner, and all I can do is strike out at others in blind panic. After all, I've seen what was purported to be your photograph, and if that wasn't you, well, it sure seemed to be a good match for the spiritual degredation that you've shown here. Your photograph, IMO, is reason enough for you to change your name and stop posting anywhere on the Internet. IMO, you must have not had any love in your life for at least a decade -- given the sad, depressed countenance that I think was plainly showing in your photograph. I've seen similar faces sitting in the day rooms of the mental hospitals where I gave first lectures. If you are insane, of course, then I pity you and take back any assertions or opinions of mindful evil on your part. Seems mindful to me though. And, if mindful, then you're up for the Skank of Fairfield Life award. For all your intelligence and perceptiveness, IMO, you're stupid and blind in your angry obsessions. Now, trot out your naughty words about me again; call me a liar or fuckhead if you want to. It'll be like you are my creative writing instructor telling me what essay I should next write about The Sagging Jowled Spewer of Tamas. Those who've known you in so many of your online incarnations can fill me in perhaps, and I'll just love putting those stories into my own words. Funzies! All of the above is MY OPINION about your inner and outer moral and spiritual worth. In a word, decrepitude. Turn about's fair play; how's it working for you? Want more? Got tons, just ask. Edg Yoiks! What an insecure nutjob.
[FairfieldLife] What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
Rick, You want a great message board, but I'm finding your support of trolls to be dangerously near to enabling slander -- not to mention the attempts of trolls to emotionally abuse folks. Rick, how many more folks will leave this place because you think trolls are cute and add to the mix? Don't deny it. There's been many a mind here that was just abused down to a nub, while you watched it. I'm almost ready to leave, and Turq just said the same thing. TURQ DON'T LEAVE WITHOUT ME! I'm not a prude or some anal type trying to lay down some hardass morality. It might be quite acceptable to have a sort of locker room mentality here -- the put-downs could be a good natured but gentle chiding, but these trolls here are out to piss folks off plain and simple, and they take the meanest route possible every time. Rick, I know you have thought for hours and hours about this, but, I ask you to look into your heart and to more deeply consider this issue, because, in light of the fact that you are not controlling the trolls, I think you are harming the community here. That said, I AM ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT YOU WANT TO THIS BE A WONDERFUL FORUM OF DEBATE AND SHARING. If you truly like the angst here, think deeper. And with Maharishi's death just around the corner, Fairfield Life may become an incredibly important hub to find a leader, a flag, a notion, something to rally around and have Fairfield -- the New Age City -- really blossom. Now that would be a wonderful thing for the whole community, right? But, with the trolls here, it just won't happen with their typical vilifications. Good folk trying hard to make things better just won't put up with abuse such as is daily seen here. Mr. Gorber, Rick tear down this wall! This wall of trolls that keeps the good folks who really would love a dialog of import and a peaceful meeting place of quiet minds thinking deeply about the potentials that Fairfield could finally achieve. I'm a romantic fool, go figure, but I have a dream of this place being where free minds think aloud freely and yet no one is hating anyone else's differences -- you know, what we all believed that TM would automatically guarantee us. A place where silence is the worst put-down. Well, no luck so far, eh? So I say, Jai Guru Rick -- lead us to the community light. I'll be there for that vision. And here's the price I would pay for it: I'll never use another swear word here, never take offense, never abuse, never use, never lie, never insinuate, never bait, never troll. I'll be your number one disciple if you change this group into the enlightened community that it truly can be. All the other cities that could possibly fill this role, Ashland, OR for instance, can't hope to beat Fairfield if Fairfield got rid of its only-TM-works prejudices. And, Rick, you don't have to do anything mean. All you have to do is say, If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. And, I say, let all the trolls stay here and see if they can follow the plan of being simply decent. If not, then they kick themselves out since they'll know you mean what you say. Not your fault! And if you don't want to be a morality cop, let me do it. Who knows immorality from the inside out like I do, eh? I tell ya, I'm psychic! I can spot besmirching from fifty yards out! One strike and out. Give peace a chance. All in favor, say aye. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Venezuela's hero of private education makes Consciousness-Based Education available to 40,000 students
http://www.globalgoodnews.com/education-news-a.html?art=118770012618185 Venezuela's hero of private education makes Consciousness-Based Education available to 40,000 students by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News 26 August 2007 Great praise and admiration are due to Mr Richard Tucker, one of the world's leading educators. Vice-Chancellor of Venezuela's private Iutirla University with 40,000 students on 24 campuses in 13 towns throughout Venezuela, Mr Tucker has personally organized the official introduction of Consciousness-Based Education into the curriculum of the university. Mr Tucker, whose father and grandfather started and built up Venezuela's largest private university, says he wants to provide the students in his care with everything they need to meet the challenges of today's world. He sees Consciousness-Based Education as the system that will do this most effectively. The news that Mr Tucker had signed an agreement with the Global Country of World Peace was reported on the Maharishi Channel on 20 August by Dr Jose Luis Alvarez Roset, Raja of Latin America. Raja Luis explained that Venezuela has a population of 29 million and thus requires around 500 Yogic Flyers to crown the nation with invincibility. The country is also favoured by nature in that it has the Angel Falls, the largest waterfalls in the world, and a large coastline to the north. Water bodies to the north or east are auspicious and bring favourable influences, according to Vastu Vidya, or the science of orientation and placement embodied in Maharishi Sthapatya Veda. Mr Tucker, a man of great foresight and insight, has personally designed the publicity materials to bring Consciousness-Based Education to his students' attention. He also takes every opportunity to personally recommend the programme to them. This new addition to the curriculum will be an option that students can take, and will supplement a wide range of vocational and academic courses offered by the university. Students at all campuses opting into Consciousness-Based Education will receive instruction simultaneously by videoconference. This will ensure that there is no delay in the maximum number of students starting to practise the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi Programme, including Yogic Flying, which is the technology at the core of this most advanced educational system. Mr Tucker is also the President of the Private Education School Association in Venezuela, which has 250,000 students under its care. The uptake of Consciousness-Based Education in the country, therefore, is potentially very much greater even than at present. So great is Mr Tucker's appreciation of the programmes of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and their ability to create invincibility-a state of 'all good for everyone, and non-good for no one'-that he has also donated a prime plot of land in a beautiful residential area of the capital, Caracas, to the Global Country of World Peace. The plot, which Mr Tucker has had for some time without knowing what purpose he wished to put it to, will now be adorned with a magnificent, white marble clad Tower of Invincibility. Mr Tucker, Raja Luis concluded, is truly a great and successful leader who will bring huge benefits to his country, and indeed, to the world. On hearing of these developments in Venezuela, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi commented that Mr Tucker had placed his country 'on a golden path'. Copyright © 2007 Global Good News(sm) Service. - Jetzt Mails schnell in einem Vorschaufenster überfliegen. Dies und viel mehr bietet das neue Yahoo! Mail.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, You want a great message board, but I'm finding your support of trolls to be dangerously near to enabling slander -- not to mention the attempts of trolls to emotionally abuse folks. Rick, how many more folks will leave this place because you think trolls are cute and add to the mix? Don't deny it. There's been many a mind here that was just abused down to a nub, while you watched it. I'm almost ready to leave, and Turq just said the same thing. TURQ DON'T LEAVE WITHOUT ME! I'm not a prude or some anal type trying to lay down some hardass morality. It might be quite acceptable to have a sort of locker room mentality here -- the put-downs could be a good natured but gentle chiding, but these trolls here are out to piss folks off plain and simple, and they take the meanest route possible every time. Rick, I know you have thought for hours and hours about this, but, I ask you to look into your heart and to more deeply consider this issue, because, in light of the fact that you are not controlling the trolls, I think you are harming the community here. That said, I AM ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT YOU WANT TO THIS BE A WONDERFUL FORUM OF DEBATE AND SHARING. If you truly like the angst here, think deeper. And with Maharishi's death just around the corner, Fairfield Life may become an incredibly important hub to find a leader, a flag, a notion, something to rally around and have Fairfield -- the New Age City -- really blossom. Now that would be a wonderful thing for the whole community, right? But, with the trolls here, it just won't happen with their typical vilifications. Good folk trying hard to make things better just won't put up with abuse such as is daily seen here. Mr. Gorber, Rick tear down this wall! This wall of trolls that keeps the good folks who really would love a dialog of import and a peaceful meeting place of quiet minds thinking deeply about the potentials that Fairfield could finally achieve. I'm a romantic fool, go figure, but I have a dream of this place being where free minds think aloud freely and yet no one is hating anyone else's differences -- you know, what we all believed that TM would automatically guarantee us. A place where silence is the worst put-down. Well, no luck so far, eh? So I say, Jai Guru Rick -- lead us to the community light. I'll be there for that vision. And here's the price I would pay for it: I'll never use another swear word here, never take offense, never abuse, never use, never lie, never insinuate, never bait, never troll. I'll be your number one disciple if you change this group into the enlightened community that it truly can be. All the other cities that could possibly fill this role, Ashland, OR for instance, can't hope to beat Fairfield if Fairfield got rid of its only-TM-works prejudices. And, Rick, you don't have to do anything mean. All you have to do is say, If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. And, I say, let all the trolls stay here and see if they can follow the plan of being simply decent. If not, then they kick themselves out since they'll know you mean what you say. Not your fault! And if you don't want to be a morality cop, let me do it. Who knows immorality from the inside out like I do, eh? I tell ya, I'm psychic! I can spot besmirching from fifty yards out! One strike and out. Give peace a chance. All in favor, say aye. Edg --Mommy! Mommy! the mean man who I trashed and threatened to sue his pants off for accusing me of lying keeps being mean to me! He just said - for everybody to see - that I'm 'insecure' and a 'nutjob'! Of course that was after I said some really mean things about Judy, ... but, but, ...she deserved it! I thought everything was OK when I trashed Nablussos. But now somebody is being mean to ME! Make the bad man go away Mommy ...please Mommy!-- My goodness. How embarrassing.
RE: [FairfieldLife] What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
Still working here Edg. But I’ll ponder this tonight and get back to you. Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: (641) 472-9336 Fax: (914) 470-9336 http:HYPERLINK http://searchsummit.com//searchsummit.com HYPERLINK http://[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become Rick, You want a great message board, but I'm finding your support of trolls to be dangerously near to enabling slander -- not to mention the attempts of trolls to emotionally abuse folks. Rick, how many more folks will leave this place because you think trolls are cute and add to the mix? Don't deny it. There's been many a mind here that was just abused down to a nub, while you watched it. I'm almost ready to leave, and Turq just said the same thing. TURQ DON'T LEAVE WITHOUT ME! I'm not a prude or some anal type trying to lay down some hardass morality. It might be quite acceptable to have a sort of locker room mentality here -- the put-downs could be a good natured but gentle chiding, but these trolls here are out to piss folks off plain and simple, and they take the meanest route possible every time. Rick, I know you have thought for hours and hours about this, but, I ask you to look into your heart and to more deeply consider this issue, because, in light of the fact that you are not controlling the trolls, I think you are harming the community here. That said, I AM ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT YOU WANT TO THIS BE A WONDERFUL FORUM OF DEBATE AND SHARING. If you truly like the angst here, think deeper. And with Maharishi's death just around the corner, Fairfield Life may become an incredibly important hub to find a leader, a flag, a notion, something to rally around and have Fairfield -- the New Age City -- really blossom. Now that would be a wonderful thing for the whole community, right? But, with the trolls here, it just won't happen with their typical vilifications. Good folk trying hard to make things better just won't put up with abuse such as is daily seen here. Mr. Gorber, Rick tear down this wall! This wall of trolls that keeps the good folks who really would love a dialog of import and a peaceful meeting place of quiet minds thinking deeply about the potentials that Fairfield could finally achieve. I'm a romantic fool, go figure, but I have a dream of this place being where free minds think aloud freely and yet no one is hating anyone else's differences -- you know, what we all believed that TM would automatically guarantee us. A place where silence is the worst put-down. Well, no luck so far, eh? So I say, Jai Guru Rick -- lead us to the community light. I'll be there for that vision. And here's the price I would pay for it: I'll never use another swear word here, never take offense, never abuse, never use, never lie, never insinuate, never bait, never troll. I'll be your number one disciple if you change this group into the enlightened community that it truly can be. All the other cities that could possibly fill this role, Ashland, OR for instance, can't hope to beat Fairfield if Fairfield got rid of its only-TM-works prejudices. And, Rick, you don't have to do anything mean. All you have to do is say, If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. And, I say, let all the trolls stay here and see if they can follow the plan of being simply decent. If not, then they kick themselves out since they'll know you mean what you say. Not your fault! And if you don't want to be a morality cop, let me do it. Who knows immorality from the inside out like I do, eh? I tell ya, I'm psychic! I can spot besmirching from fifty yards out! One strike and out. Give peace a chance. All in favor, say aye. Edg No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
Barry piles more lies on top of the first batch, as he usually does when he's been caught. The idea is to thoroughly confuse the issue with red herrings. You'd have to read both my posts and his posts carefully to see what he's tried to do here; he's counting on nobody going to that trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll make an exception and reply to one of Swami J's posts here, because she *knows* that what she's implying below isn't true. In fact, Barry knows his claim that I was implying something that wasn't true is--wait for it--not true. BTW, you'll notice that disciple John is letting Swami J fight his battles for him. Get used to it. Uh, well, no, he isn't. In the first place, this wasn't one of his battles; in the second place, he's given as good as he's gotten and more in the battles that *were* his. snip In the current account, it was Charlie *making up* a grand paranoid tale about Jerry's minions keeping him out of the room. But last year, it was MMY himself who told Charlie that. As you well know, Swami J ( recognize the phrase As you well know? :-), that part came *after* the part of the story I just retold. It happened at the airport the next day, when Charlie showed up to see Maharishi, having blown him off the night before. Totally irrelevant, as Barry knows, to the contradiction I was pointing out. This is a red herring Barry's waving around in an attempt to distract attention from the fact that his accounts contradict each other on a major point and several smaller ones. As noted, you'd have to read both Barry's and my posts very carefully to see the game Barry's playing here. One hint: the fact that he snipped the quote from his earlier account here is part of his effort to put across his red herring. Charlie went up to Maharishi and said something to the effect of, I was there at the hotel last night, but they told me to wait outside. Maharishi looked Charlie straight in the eye and said, No one ever told me you were there. THAT is a LIE. Nor, of course, was this ever in dispute. And yet Barry goes on for several more paragraphs as if somebody had challenged it. That's part of the red herring. snip But even more so, it's a head-scratcher for those who think Swami J never lies. She just got back from reading the earlier version of these stories, so she knows what went down, and in what sequence. But that's not quite how she told it, is it? *Zero* conflict, as Barry knows, regarding the door issue. Red herring from Barry, a particularly smelly one. He's been caught again, and he's doing his damndest to create a conflict where none exists. snip Oops. In this version, Barry seems to have forgotten that it was MMY who told Charlie Barry was the one to have kept him out of the room. We're back to Charlie's paranoia again. Not true. Maharishi never assigned blame. If I said so earlier that was fast writing on my part. snicker So that's what we're calling lies now, is it, fast writing? Here's Barry's fast writing on this point: Later, because I was the door guy, I was the one who Maharishi told Charlie WAS TO BLAME for keeping him out: 'They never told me.' (my emphasis) snip They were *his* words, just as he said them. And you are trying to make someone recording them *at the request of the TM International Staff* a bad thing. Any other time, you'd be giving me shit for *not* doing exactly as I was told. :-) Well, no, actually I would criticize International Staff quite severely for having told you to tape Charlie without his knowledge, and criticize you for going along with it. Kind of a toady thing to do, it seems to me, highly unethical. Then again, you are busy defending John Manning for calling Edg a liar, Nope, never defended John for doing that, sorry. You made that up. snip Only Barry knows what the time sequence was here. But one way or another, it appears that Charlie had plenty of reason to dislike and distrust Barry. Which is interesting, because before his rather juvenile attempts to extract retribution on me for an imagined affront, That would be the affront MMY told him you had committed by not telling MMY he was there, right? snip And now we're back to the alternate story again, that MMY regularly blamed Jerry and his minions for keeping Charlie out of the room. I don't think it has *ever* been suggested that MMY regularly blamed Jerry and 'his minions' for keeping Charlie out of the room. Swami J just made that up. Well, let's have a look at Barry's very own words: I was in a position several times to see how Maharishi treated Charlie. He often kept him waiting in hallways for *hours*, knowing full well that he was there, knowing he was impatient and would sooner or later throw a tantrum and stalk off, and then, just when Charlie was about to storm off in a snit, Maharishi would call him into
RE: [FairfieldLife] Kirk Quota
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kirk Quota So do I also have to stop my reading? Or breathing? How about I just up and off myself. This is just more TM O cultish bullshit and you're perpetuating it. We all agreed on the quota after much deliberation and most would agree that it has improved the quality of FFL considerably. It forces people to post less frequently, but more thoughtfully. All but two or three people abide by it willingly. As much as I don’t like to, I’m forced to turn off the posting ability of those who refuse to abide by it. I’m afraid I’m going to have to do that to you now. I’ll turn you back on Friday midnight or Saturday morning. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM
[FairfieldLife] Introduction to Brain Mapping this week
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FF restaurant threatens lawsuit over blog entry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:56 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF restaurant threatens lawsuit over blog entry However, now that the owners are attempting to suppress free speech, I will now boycott all their restaurants (no big loss for them, considering I rarely eat in town.) The father owns Gupta's Indian restaurant. I've never eaten there because it's not a corpse emporium. When I go out for Indian food, I go to India Cafe for the tandoori chicken. They also have yummy lamb dishes on the dinner menu. http://www.istockphoto.com/imageindex/467/1/467156/cute_baby_lamb.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sagging Jowled Spewer of Tamas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the below is my opinion. Judy, IMO, you're blasting me for the GREAT SIN of having had polite conversations with Barry and thereby, IMO, you've decided that I'm to be a target of yours. Uh, no, I blasted you for your *hypocrisy* in making nice with Barry while attacking John. And you *made* yourself a target by asking FFL members whether you or John was the bigger fuckhead and liar. Then you dumped on me big-time for having answered your question honestly, threatened me with legal troubles, and lied about having offered John an out when it was he who offered you an out. I stand by what I said in my responses. I note that you haven't addressed any of it, merely turned the cannon around at me. snip If Turq is the loser you seem to think he is, well, then he's so lost, so out-of-it, that shame on you for picking on the insane. I don't think he's that lost. I think there's an actual nice guy underneath all the dishonest, vicious bluster and phony act, one that's worth uncovering. snip IMO, you've been wanting a chance to really lay into me; in fact, IT SEEMS for some time now you've festered. Nope. Wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't asked. Sorry you didn't like my response. snip If you are a hag, show your true face here -- the photograph that I've seen of you here online is wrinkled with, IMO, angst-plowed troughs in blotched skin -- a face of simmering hate brought on by endless grimacing that I seem to see daily worn by you here. snip Your photograph, IMO, is reason enough for you to change your name and stop posting anywhere on the Internet. IMO, you must have not had any love in your life for at least a decade Wrongwrongwrong, sorry! -- given the sad, depressed countenance that I think was plainly showing in your photograph. I've seen similar faces sitting in the day rooms of the mental hospitals where I gave first lectures. Only three possibilities here that I can see: (1) There's something badly wrong either with your monitor or your eyes. (2) You're hallucinating. (3) You've been looking at the photo I posted called Barry's fantasy image of Judy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Sagging Jowled Spewer of Tamas
Yawntake it private. nobody gives a sh*t. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the below is my opinion. Judy, IMO, you're blasting me for the GREAT SIN of having had polite conversations with Barry and thereby, IMO, you've decided that I'm to be a target of yours. Uh, no, I blasted you for your *hypocrisy* in making nice with Barry while attacking John. And you *made* yourself a target by asking FFL members whether you or John was the bigger fuckhead and liar. Then you dumped on me big-time for having answered your question honestly, threatened me with legal troubles, and lied about having offered John an out when it was he who offered you an out. I stand by what I said in my responses. I note that you haven't addressed any of it, merely turned the cannon around at me. snip If Turq is the loser you seem to think he is, well, then he's so lost, so out-of-it, that shame on you for picking on the insane. I don't think he's that lost. I think there's an actual nice guy underneath all the dishonest, vicious bluster and phony act, one that's worth uncovering. snip IMO, you've been wanting a chance to really lay into me; in fact, IT SEEMS for some time now you've festered. Nope. Wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't asked. Sorry you didn't like my response. snip If you are a hag, show your true face here -- the photograph that I've seen of you here online is wrinkled with, IMO, angst-plowed troughs in blotched skin -- a face of simmering hate brought on by endless grimacing that I seem to see daily worn by you here. snip Your photograph, IMO, is reason enough for you to change your name and stop posting anywhere on the Internet. IMO, you must have not had any love in your life for at least a decade Wrongwrongwrong, sorry! -- given the sad, depressed countenance that I think was plainly showing in your photograph. I've seen similar faces sitting in the day rooms of the mental hospitals where I gave first lectures. Only three possibilities here that I can see: (1) There's something badly wrong either with your monitor or your eyes. (2) You're hallucinating. (3) You've been looking at the photo I posted called Barry's fantasy image of Judy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469
[FairfieldLife] Re: Introduction to Brain Mapping this week
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sagging Jowled Spewer of Tamas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yawntake it private. nobody gives a sh*t. Once again, of the two parties to this dispute, notice who Peter chides. Wouldn't you just love to be one of Peter's female patients? --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: All the below is my opinion. Judy, IMO, you're blasting me for the GREAT SIN of having had polite conversations with Barry and thereby, IMO, you've decided that I'm to be a target of yours. Uh, no, I blasted you for your *hypocrisy* in making nice with Barry while attacking John. And you *made* yourself a target by asking FFL members whether you or John was the bigger fuckhead and liar. Then you dumped on me big-time for having answered your question honestly, threatened me with legal troubles, and lied about having offered John an out when it was he who offered you an out. I stand by what I said in my responses. I note that you haven't addressed any of it, merely turned the cannon around at me. snip If Turq is the loser you seem to think he is, well, then he's so lost, so out-of-it, that shame on you for picking on the insane. I don't think he's that lost. I think there's an actual nice guy underneath all the dishonest, vicious bluster and phony act, one that's worth uncovering. snip IMO, you've been wanting a chance to really lay into me; in fact, IT SEEMS for some time now you've festered. Nope. Wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't asked. Sorry you didn't like my response. snip If you are a hag, show your true face here -- the photograph that I've seen of you here online is wrinkled with, IMO, angst-plowed troughs in blotched skin -- a face of simmering hate brought on by endless grimacing that I seem to see daily worn by you here. snip Your photograph, IMO, is reason enough for you to change your name and stop posting anywhere on the Internet. IMO, you must have not had any love in your life for at least a decade Wrongwrongwrong, sorry! -- given the sad, depressed countenance that I think was plainly showing in your photograph. I've seen similar faces sitting in the day rooms of the mental hospitals where I gave first lectures. Only three possibilities here that I can see: (1) There's something badly wrong either with your monitor or your eyes. (2) You're hallucinating. (3) You've been looking at the photo I posted called Barry's fantasy image of Judy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469
[FairfieldLife] www.lewisweiss.com now password protected..
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[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few of the details in Barry's account didn't quite sound right to me, so I decided to check on the earlier versions Barry has related on FFL and alt.m.t. Is just my imagination, or had we been experiencing a kind of golden period the last couply months on FFL. I never followed the Barry/Judy bickering, so I can't say for sure, but it seems like Judy has been less visible. I am guessing that it is because Turq. has not been responding to her or getting drawn into the fray. Now, that we have some dirt and controversy getting dished, it's like the bottom fishers are back out. Judy will never realize that what others take as meaningless inconsistencies are for her great conquests to be strutted out into the collesium. I see she has repeated postings on the fuckhead controversy. I don't plan to read any of them. I hope others will not get drawn into this meaningless debate. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: A few of the details in Barry's account didn't quite sound right to me, so I decided to check on the earlier versions Barry has related on FFL and alt.m.t. Is just my imagination, or had we been experiencing a kind of golden period the last couply months on FFL. I never followed the Barry/Judy bickering, so I can't say for sure, but it seems like Judy has been less visible. I am guessing that it is because Turq. has not been responding to her or getting drawn into the fray. No, I've been less visible because I've been taking long weekends away without my computer. Now, that we have some dirt and controversy getting dished, it's like the bottom fishers are back out. Judy will never realize that what others take as meaningless inconsistencies are for her great conquests to be strutted out into the collesium. They're only meaningless to you because you don't bother to find out what they're about. I see she has repeated postings on the fuckhead controversy. The one Edg began and is perpetuating, you mean? Man, the double standards here are just amazing. I don't plan to read any of them. I hope others will not get drawn into this meaningless debate. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kirk Quota
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So do I also have to stop my reading? (no) Or breathing? (no, just try to slow it down. There are various techniques you can try. Some Buddhist, some western, some asian. Look them over. Pick out one that you feel may suit you.) How about I just up and off myself. (Listen, you made it through Katrina. Okay, you made it through the desert. Be a big boy. Don't throw a suicide tantrum) This is just more TM O cultish bullshit and you're perpetuating it. (You know Kirk, just grow up a little. Christ, don't be such a fucken baby.) (lurk)
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. If I wanted this kind of judgment on my expression I would have stayed in the movement. Does the term Age of Enlightenment News mean anything to you? Once trollish behavior has been identified, anyone responding is doing it by choice. Some are obviously nuts or on the outer edges of odd. Some are entertaining if you don't take it personally. Limiting content freedom is a dark path. If you just control what you read, ignore posts that don't interest you and pay attention to what you like, no one will have to kick people off because you don't want to read their stuff. Self control, not group control. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still working here Edg. But I'll ponder this tonight and get back to you. Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: (641) 472-9336 Fax: (914) 470-9336 http:HYPERLINK http://searchsummit.com//searchsummit.com HYPERLINK http://[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become Rick, You want a great message board, but I'm finding your support of trolls to be dangerously near to enabling slander -- not to mention the attempts of trolls to emotionally abuse folks. Rick, how many more folks will leave this place because you think trolls are cute and add to the mix? Don't deny it. There's been many a mind here that was just abused down to a nub, while you watched it. I'm almost ready to leave, and Turq just said the same thing. TURQ DON'T LEAVE WITHOUT ME! I'm not a prude or some anal type trying to lay down some hardass morality. It might be quite acceptable to have a sort of locker room mentality here -- the put-downs could be a good natured but gentle chiding, but these trolls here are out to piss folks off plain and simple, and they take the meanest route possible every time. Rick, I know you have thought for hours and hours about this, but, I ask you to look into your heart and to more deeply consider this issue, because, in light of the fact that you are not controlling the trolls, I think you are harming the community here. That said, I AM ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT YOU WANT TO THIS BE A WONDERFUL FORUM OF DEBATE AND SHARING. If you truly like the angst here, think deeper. And with Maharishi's death just around the corner, Fairfield Life may become an incredibly important hub to find a leader, a flag, a notion, something to rally around and have Fairfield -- the New Age City -- really blossom. Now that would be a wonderful thing for the whole community, right? But, with the trolls here, it just won't happen with their typical vilifications. Good folk trying hard to make things better just won't put up with abuse such as is daily seen here. Mr. Gorber, Rick tear down this wall! This wall of trolls that keeps the good folks who really would love a dialog of import and a peaceful meeting place of quiet minds thinking deeply about the potentials that Fairfield could finally achieve. I'm a romantic fool, go figure, but I have a dream of this place being where free minds think aloud freely and yet no one is hating anyone else's differences -- you know, what we all believed that TM would automatically guarantee us. A place where silence is the worst put-down. Well, no luck so far, eh? So I say, Jai Guru Rick -- lead us to the community light. I'll be there for that vision. And here's the price I would pay for it: I'll never use another swear word here, never take offense, never abuse, never use, never lie, never insinuate, never bait, never troll. I'll be your number one disciple if you change this group into the enlightened community that it truly can be. All the other cities that could possibly fill this role, Ashland, OR for instance, can't hope to beat Fairfield if Fairfield got rid of its only-TM-works prejudices. And, Rick, you don't have to do anything mean. All you have to do is say, If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. And, I say, let all the trolls stay here and see if they can follow the plan of being simply decent. If not, then they kick themselves out since they'll know you mean what you say. Not your fault! And if you don't want to be a morality cop, let me do it. Who knows immorality from the inside out like I do, eh? I tell ya, I'm psychic! I can spot besmirching from fifty yards out! One strike and out. Give peace a chance. All in favor, say aye. Edg No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kirk Quota
Kirk has unsubscribed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: So do I also have to stop my reading? (no) Or breathing? (no, just try to slow it down. There are various techniques you can try. Some Buddhist, some western, some asian. Look them over. Pick out one that you feel may suit you.) How about I just up and off myself. (Listen, you made it through Katrina. Okay, you made it through the desert. Be a big boy. Don't throw a suicide tantrum) This is just more TM O cultish bullshit and you're perpetuating it. (You know Kirk, just grow up a little. Christ, don't be such a fucken baby.) (lurk)
[FairfieldLife] 'Seattle Transcends State Federal Fascism'
Feature: Pot Peace in Seattle as Another Hempfest Celebrates Cannabis Nation Printer Friendly Version Email this Article from Drug War Chronicle, Issue #499, 8/24/07 Cannabis Nation was on the march in Seattle last weekend. An estimated 150,000 people showed up Saturday and Sunday at Myrtle Edwards Park on Elliot Bay just north of downtown to celebrate the 16th annual Seattle Hempfest and call for marijuana legalization. Lauded by organizers as the world's largest drug reform protest rally or, as they like to put it, protestival, once again, the Hempfest lived up to its advance billing. DRCNet associate director David Guard addresses Hempfest As usual, Hempfest was marked by peacefulness, a hefty dose of commerce, and the heady, sickly sweet smell of burning marijuana. Hundreds of vendors -- the vast majority of whom seemed to be peddling glass pipes, eight-foot bongs, and other smoking accoutrements -- did a brisk business, and thousands of celebrants toked up blissfully as Seattle police -- obeying a 2003 voter-installed city lowest priority ordinance -- looked on without acting. Some 60 bands ranging from rock to reggae to hip-hop to punk, as well as a tent pumping out techno music, kept the sounds coming. Among the musical highlights were reggae veteran Pato Banton, whose I Do Not Sniff the Coke (I Only Smoke Sinsemilla) evoked huge roars of approval and Hempfest mainstays the Herbivores, whose Losing Battle (You can throw us all in prison, but you can never win the fight) could well be the Hempfest anthem. Between the people-watching -- oh! What a glorious parade of punks, Goths, aging hippies, junior hippies, suburban moms with strollers, Oregon pot fairies, men in skirts, and the simply indescribable -- the music, the pipe shopping, and the effort of moving among the masses, it was easy to miss the serious political message behind the event, but organizers made every effort to ensure that even the most apolitical stoner got a healthy dose of the reform message. Hempfest is all about promoting the freedom of choice and human rights, said head organizer the ubiquitous and tireless Vivian McPeak from the Main Stage during one of his countless mini-rants between acts. Responsible, law-abiding adults should not be incarcerated for marijuana offenses, he reminded the audience. McPeak was only the most visible (and audible) voice of Hempfest. An all-volunteer effort involving hundreds of people, Hempfest is a testament to the power of community organizing. David Guard and Phil Smith at DRCNet table And while the Hempfest multitudes may have mostly been more interested in bong hits than politics, those who were there for something more than a party had plenty of opportunities to listen and learn. Dozens of drug reformers, from nationally known figures like Jack Herer, Ed Rosenthal, Rick Steves, and Keith Stroup, as well as lesser-known but equally impressive local activists, were on the speakers' list. While serious drug policy discussion was relegated to the Hemposium tent, where panel after panel met to argue different aspects of the marijuana laws, medical marijuana, and broader drug reform issues, drug reformers also graced all the stages in between musical acts. Travel writer and TV travel program host Rick Steves addressed a huge crowd Sunday afternoon from the Main Stage. Having just returned from Europe, Steves told the crowd that most Europeans don't consider marijuana a big deal, and neither should Americans. Steves cited the Declaration of Independence, with its call for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I think that's what America is about, he said. An impassioned Debby Goldsberry of the Cannabis Action Network moved the crowd with her account of DEA harassment of medical marijuana dispensaries in California, while federal medical marijuana patient Elvie Musika drew cheers and applause for standing firm for the herb. While the crowds were happy to listen to Steves and other reform advocates talking to them from the stages between bands, drug reform booths were relatively quiet. Perhaps one out of a hundred Hempfest attendees stopped to talk politics, and maybe one out of 500 bothered to add his or her name to reform email lists. That could be a mark of the normalization of marijuana on the West Coast in general and in Seattle in particular. After a rocky start with police in the festival's early days in the 1990s, police and organizers have reached an accommodation. Law enforcement reasonableness is doubtless linked to experience with the peaceful gathering, which has become a Seattle institution, but is also a matter of law and public policy in the city. In 2003, voters there approved an initiative making adult marijuana possession offenses the lowest law enforcement priority. With fewer than 40 marijuana possession arrests in Seattle last year, the police clearly have heeded the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kirk Quota
Kirk has unsubscribed. In the words of Jerry Seinfield... Tht's a shame. --- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk has unsubscribed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: So do I also have to stop my reading? (no) Or breathing? (no, just try to slow it down. There are various techniques you can try. Some Buddhist, some western, some asian. Look them over. Pick out one that you feel may suit you.) How about I just up and off myself. (Listen, you made it through Katrina. Okay, you made it through the desert. Be a big boy. Don't throw a suicide tantrum) This is just more TM O cultish bullshit and you're perpetuating it. (You know Kirk, just grow up a little. Christ, don't be such a fucken baby.) (lurk) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
Other groups and forums have tight controls, because the trolls and spammers WILL ruin every one of them if given a chance. --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. If I wanted this kind of judgment on my expression I would have stayed in the movement. Does the term Age of Enlightenment News mean anything to you? Once trollish behavior has been identified, anyone responding is doing it by choice. Some are obviously nuts or on the outer edges of odd. Some are entertaining if you don't take it personally. Limiting content freedom is a dark path. If you just control what you read, ignore posts that don't interest you and pay attention to what you like, no one will have to kick people off because you don't want to read their stuff. Self control, not group control. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still working here Edg. But I'll ponder this tonight and get back to you. Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: (641) 472-9336 Fax: (914) 470-9336 http:HYPERLINK http://searchsummit.com//searchsummit.com HYPERLINK http://[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become Rick, You want a great message board, but I'm finding your support of trolls to be dangerously near to enabling slander -- not to mention the attempts of trolls to emotionally abuse folks. Rick, how many more folks will leave this place because you think trolls are cute and add to the mix? Don't deny it. There's been many a mind here that was just abused down to a nub, while you watched it. I'm almost ready to leave, and Turq just said the same thing. TURQ DON'T LEAVE WITHOUT ME! I'm not a prude or some anal type trying to lay down some hardass morality. It might be quite acceptable to have a sort of locker room mentality here -- the put-downs could be a good natured but gentle chiding, but these trolls here are out to piss folks off plain and simple, and they take the meanest route possible every time. Rick, I know you have thought for hours and hours about this, but, I ask you to look into your heart and to more deeply consider this issue, because, in light of the fact that you are not controlling the trolls, I think you are harming the community here. That said, I AM ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT YOU WANT TO THIS BE A WONDERFUL FORUM OF DEBATE AND SHARING. If you truly like the angst here, think deeper. And with Maharishi's death just around the corner, Fairfield Life may become an incredibly important hub to find a leader, a flag, a notion, something to rally around and have Fairfield -- the New Age City -- really blossom. Now that would be a wonderful thing for the whole community, right? But, with the trolls here, it just won't happen with their typical vilifications. Good folk trying hard to make things better just won't put up with abuse such as is daily seen here. Mr. Gorber, Rick tear down this wall! This wall of trolls that keeps the good folks who really would love a dialog of import and a peaceful meeting place of quiet minds thinking deeply about the potentials that Fairfield could finally achieve. I'm a romantic fool, go figure, but I have a dream of this place being where free minds think aloud freely and yet no one is hating anyone else's differences -- you know, what we all believed that TM would automatically guarantee us. A place where silence is the worst put-down. Well, no luck so far, eh? So I say, Jai Guru Rick -- lead us to the community light. I'll be there for that vision. And here's the price I would pay for it: I'll never use another swear word here, never take offense, never abuse, never use, never lie, never insinuate, never bait, never troll. I'll be your number one disciple if you change this group into the enlightened community that it truly can be. All the other cities that could possibly fill this role, Ashland, OR for instance, can't hope to beat Fairfield if Fairfield got rid of its only-TM-works prejudices. And, Rick, you don't have to do anything mean. All you have to do is say, If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. And, I say, let all the trolls stay here and see if they can follow the plan of being simply decent. If not, then they kick themselves out since they'll know you mean what you say. Not your fault! And if you don't want to be a morality
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kirk Quota
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk has unsubscribed. Obviously, everyone, (okay, at least many) people really enjoy Kirk, and it's fun when he passes through. But he is high maintenance. Hey, he didn't say anthing about his wife. I wonder if he is stll married? Anybody want to lay down some odds? lurk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
On Aug 28, 2007, at 7:38 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: I don't plan to read any of them. People read what writers say. They really don't care all too much for what editors say, let alone what they write...esp. when (despite the fact they may be very good at criticizing others mistakes constructively in a college writing class sorta way--something that will eventually be replaced by computation speed and programming finesse) they attempt to do it on casual or stream-of-consciousness writing. Let's face it: if we liked the email equivalent of nails on a chalkboard, we'd actually read her writing. Sometimes it's better if the editors remain in their cubicles and leave the writin' to those with two hemispheres.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
Edg: If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. Curtis: If I wanted this kind of judgment on my expression I would have stayed in the movement. Does the term Age of Enlightenment News mean anything to you? You know, we lost Cliff Rees. That was a loss. He said he couldn't tolerate Judy. I would hate to lost Edg. But FFL will survive, sometimes more fun, sometimes less. I can't help but feel that Cliff cut himself off from a nice outlet. Curtis, you are so right on. Self discipline, not imposed discipline is what makes for a strong community. IMHO, Judy has much a right as anyone to express herself as she sees fit. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: A few of the details in Barry's account didn't quite sound right to me, so I decided to check on the earlier versions Barry has related on FFL and alt.m.t. Is just my imagination, or had we been experiencing a kind of golden period the last couply months on FFL. I never followed the Barry/Judy bickering, so I can't say for sure, but it seems like Judy has been less visible. I am guessing that it is because Turq. has not been responding to her or getting drawn into the fray. No, I've been less visible because I've been taking long weekends away without my computer. Now, that we have some dirt and controversy getting dished, it's like the bottom fishers are back out. Judy will never realize that what others take as meaningless inconsistencies are for her great conquests to be strutted out into the collesium. They're only meaningless to you because you don't bother to find out what they're about. I see she has repeated postings on the fuckhead controversy. The one Edg began and is perpetuating, you mean? Man, the double standards here are just amazing. I don't plan to read any of them. I hope others will not get drawn into this meaningless debate. lurk The precision Judy brings to her clarifications of Barry's posts, and others to whom she replies, are actually quite a valuable lesson for those wishing to sharpen their intellect. Its not really the subject matter that is meaningful, but rather the discrimination between clean and sloppy thinking. Fascinating stuff.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edg: If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. Curtis: If I wanted this kind of judgment on my expression I would have stayed in the movement. Does the term Age of Enlightenment News mean anything to you? You know, we lost Cliff Rees. That was a loss. He said he couldn't tolerate Judy. Those who think I drove Cliff out should go back and reread our exchanges. What *actually* happened was that he decided to start beating up on me, and I fought back. He wasn't used to getting at least as good as he was giving--especially, I suspect, from a woman--and *that's* what he couldn't tolerate. I would hate to lost Edg. But FFL will survive, sometimes more fun, sometimes less. I can't help but feel that Cliff cut himself off from a nice outlet. Curtis, you are so right on. Self discipline, not imposed discipline is what makes for a strong community. IMHO, Judy has much a right as anyone to express herself as she sees fit. Thanks for that, at least.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 28, 2007, at 7:38 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: I don't plan to read any of them. People read what writers say. They really don't care all too much for what editors say, let alone what they write This may be the most nonsensical thing I've ever seen asserted on FFL. ...esp. when (despite the fact they may be very good at criticizing others mistakes constructively in a college writing class sorta way--something that will eventually be replaced by computation speed and programming finesse) And this may be the second-most nonsensical. they attempt to do it on casual or stream-of-consciousness writing. I'll overlook Vaj's garbled syntax here and just point out that my comments on Barry's various versions of his Charlie Lutes tale had to do with differences in *content*, not with any differences related to casual or stream-of-consciousness writing. Vaj is *very well aware* of this. He's trying to cover up for Barry (and doing a very poor job of it, too).
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Judy will never realize that what others take as meaningless inconsistencies are for her great conquests to be strutted out into the collesium. Lurk, think about this for a minute: If the inconsistencies I pointed out in Barry's various versions of his tale about Charlie Lutes are meaningless, why do you think he went ballistic when I called attention to them? Why did he decide to make an exception to his current policy of not responding to my posts? Why did he attempt a detailed, lengthy, point-by- point rebuttal, claiming (falsely) that I had deliberately distorted the context? How come Barry doesn't think the inconsistencies are meaningless?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
Lurk, I missed Cliff Rees (not spelled Reese?) posting here? He was a very interesting movement guy if it was the same guy I knew. What posts can you direct me to? I would like to read his perspective on his movement life if he posted it. Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edg: If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. Curtis: If I wanted this kind of judgment on my expression I would have stayed in the movement. Does the term Age of Enlightenment News mean anything to you? You know, we lost Cliff Rees. That was a loss. He said he couldn't tolerate Judy. I would hate to lost Edg. But FFL will survive, sometimes more fun, sometimes less. I can't help but feel that Cliff cut himself off from a nice outlet. Curtis, you are so right on. Self discipline, not imposed discipline is what makes for a strong community. IMHO, Judy has much a right as anyone to express herself as she sees fit. lurk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
On Aug 28, 2007, at 9:28 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Judy will never realize that what others take as meaningless inconsistencies are for her great conquests to be strutted out into the collesium. Lurk, think about this for a minute: If the inconsistencies I pointed out in Barry's various versions of his tale about Charlie Lutes are meaningless, why do you think he went ballistic when I called attention to them? Uh, maybe because he was utterly flabbergasted that anyone could so willingly stalk his every word?
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 28, 2007, at 9:28 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: snip Judy will never realize that what others take as meaningless inconsistencies are for her great conquests to be strutted out into the collesium. Lurk, think about this for a minute: If the inconsistencies I pointed out in Barry's various versions of his tale about Charlie Lutes are meaningless, why do you think he went ballistic when I called attention to them? Uh, maybe because he was utterly flabbergasted that anyone could so willingly stalk his every word? why take it personally?:-)
[FairfieldLife] A Christian fundie on Creme's Maitreya
MAITREYA - Maitreya, the Lord Master expected by the Buddhists, is, in fact, a fiction created by the New Ager Benjamin Creme... he says it is not a religion, but he advises people to meet weekly in Maitreya Groups to create good Energy... - Benjamin Creme, born in Glasgow, Scotland in 1922, is a co-editor of the New Age magazine Share International, and considers himself to be like another John the Baptist, the precursor of Maitreya, to make the initial approach to the public, to help create a climate of hope and expectancy. - Maitreya, the Master, in Creme's fiction, is supposed to be the Christ expected by the Christians, the Messiah expected by the Jews, the reincarnation of Krishna expected by the Hindus, the Iman Mahdi expected by the Muslims, the Lord Maitreya expected by the Buddhists. - Creme attracted much attention in the early 1980s announcing the coming of the Lord Maitreya by 1982; whe Maitreya failed to appear, Creme's popularity quikly died. - However, Creme says that Maitreya is already alive, emerged from the Himalayas in 1977, and is living in London, in the Pakistani- Indian community as an ordinary man... but on the Day of Declaration the international television networks will be linked together, and Maitreya will be invited to speak to the world; we will see his face on television, but each of us will hear his words telepathically. - Creme says that Maitreya is already making unexpected apparitions in different countries, like in Kenya in 1991, in Uganda with the healing of 400 patients with AIDS, and the healing waters in Tlacote (Mexico), Nordenau (Germany), Nadana (India) ... but all of them unsubstantiated... he appears and disappears, without anybody's notice, claims the fiction story of Creme!. - Creme claims Maitreya predicted the fall of Communism and dozens of world social and political events, but all unsubstantiated, predicted after they had happened!. - A major event predicted by Maitreya, through Creme, in 1988, was an international stock market crash... but now, in 1997, still did not happened! - Creme calls him the Master of all Masters, including the Master of Jesus Christ... the Head of the Spiritual Hierarchy of Masters, the World Teacher, the Lord Maitreya... though Maitreya calls himself the Teacher. ... For Creme, Maitreya means the Lord of Joy and Gladness, dedicated to the reunification of all religions and humanity, and for the economic, social, and political welfare of the whole world. - For me, Maitreya is another Hindu-Buddhist cult, a false Messiah... Maitreya is not God, as Creme claims... the face of Maitreya exists, a good looking Hindu or Buddhist man, as given by the fiction story of Creme.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 28, 2007, at 9:28 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: snip Judy will never realize that what others take as meaningless inconsistencies are for her great conquests to be strutted out into the collesium. Lurk, think about this for a minute: If the inconsistencies I pointed out in Barry's various versions of his tale about Charlie Lutes are meaningless, why do you think he went ballistic when I called attention to them? Uh, maybe because he was utterly flabbergasted that anyone could so willingly stalk his every word? Jeez, Vaj, is that the best you can do? Lessee now, I think you accidentally left out the rest of what I wrote: Why did he decide to make an 'exception' to his current policy of not responding to my posts? Why did he attempt a detailed, lengthy, point-by- point rebuttal, claiming (falsely) that I had deliberately distorted the context? Think these were because he was utterly flabbergasted that anyone could so willingly stalk his every word? (Is that as opposed to UNwillingly stalking his every word?) belly laugh
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 28, 2007, at 9:28 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: snip Judy will never realize that what others take as meaningless inconsistencies are for her great conquests to be strutted out into the collesium. Lurk, think about this for a minute: If the inconsistencies I pointed out in Barry's various versions of his tale about Charlie Lutes are meaningless, why do you think he went ballistic when I called attention to them? Uh, maybe because he was utterly flabbergasted that anyone could so willingly stalk his every word? why take it personally?:-) Wasn't that Barry took it personally, it's that he went to great pains to try to rebut and/or explain away the supposedly meaningless inconsistencies. (Vaj snipped the part of my post where I pointed this out, because it makes nonsense of his comment.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Pearl in the Guru Gita
I remember reading the controversy between FreeJonny and MukBab back in those days. The real question between them was about the means to enlightenment and the contentions of MukBab that Shankara believed in the sushumna and the blue pearl and that this particular tantric process was the model for Shankara's Advaita. In contrast, FreeJonny claimed he became enlightened through the assistance of Ramana Maharshi's descriptions of returning to ultimate, unconditioned awareness in the heart through the amrit-nadi. According to this model, amrit-nadi descends from the brahmarandra to the heart (secret heart-cave/hrid-guha) which is not the same as the anahat-chakra within the tantric sushumna, Freejonny therefore claimed that his final emancipatory process was not through the shaktipat he received from MukBab. And, of course, all this talk was a bit exacerbated by various groups of disciples' on opposite sides, in the usual slavish manner. The controversy partly revolved around the differences between tantric shaktipata (the fall-of- power) along with shakti's consequent ascent and return to the over-the-head crown center. This ascending process was contrasted with Shankara's Upanishadic sushumna, with its focus on the sun-door (surya-dvara) which co-identifies the purusha in the heart (brahma-pura or city of brahman), the purusha in the right eye (krsna-tara or black-star) and the purusha in the sun (hiranyagarbha). This upanishadic process was a description of realization through direct cognition (brahma-vid) rather than one of unification. Freejonny went through a extensive public reading of Shankara's Upanishadic commentaries to convincingly demonstrate that this was the exact advaita path of Shankara rather than yogic cultivation of subtle perceptions via the sushumna and the various major chakras. Including blue bindus. Interesting how people forget this stuff because they never really understood the distinctions. The Kriya-Yoga lineage of Kriya Babaji, Lahiri Mahasaya, Yukteshvar Giri and Yogananda has fully preserved both the yogic ascent-descent process and the direct realization process of Brahma-vidya in Shankara's lineage. Another reason I consider it more complete and balanced. empty tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---You're forgetting something (based on the essential falling out between Muktananda and Adi Da). Adi Da claimed M. wasn't fully Enlightened (or E. period) since he was fixated on the Blue Pearl. M's position is that one can be Enlightened and apparently be engaged in something relative. M. used the Blue Pearl in his Sidhi. It gave him information on the Spiritual status of people who came before him. Thus, he was fixated on the Blue Pearl before Enlightenment, but after Enlightenment; having eradicated the last traces of dualistic identification, he continued to use the Blue Pearl for special purposes. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fucking idiocy, no offense. There is nothing and nowhere to go and nothing else to strive for all having existance with no fixation. Blue bindu, and all the millions of others are the dense nature of the ground of all being which is the source of and realization of all qualities simultaneously. One doesn't need to travel trough bindus to already be their entire essence. Already forever. - Original Message - From: BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Pearl in the Guru Gita --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno tertonzeno@ wrote: Verse 121: Shri Mahadeva said: Pinda is Kundalini Shakti. Hamsa (OSpontaneous repetiton of Hamsa) is pada. Know rupa to be the bindu (blue pearl) and rupatita is the pure One (beyond the three.) This seems to be a reference to the spiritual third eye or ajna chakra which is threefold; the first *experience* is a sphere or circle made of gold color within which is the blue (pearl), within this blue (pearl) is a five pointed white star, which upon entering one achieves Cosmic Consciousness or complete freedom in the eternal Silence beyond all relativity, Nirvikalpa Samadhi. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
On Aug 28, 2007, at 9:47 PM, authfriend wrote: Why did he decide to make an 'exception' to his current policy of not responding to my posts? Really Judy, there are probably college-level writing classes in the north Jersey area. Community colleges can be quite inexpensive. Here we go again kids: flabbergast |ˈflabərˌgast| |ˌfløbərˈgøst| |ˌflabəgɑːst| verb [ trans. ] [usu. as adj. ] ( flabbergasted) informal surprise (someone) greatly; astonish : this news has left me totally flabbergasted. ORIGIN late 18th cent.: of unknown origin. Uhmaybe you greatly astonished him? Sometimes stalking behavior is greatly astonishing to their victims... Get some help Judy. Medicare should cover at least 10 visits a year.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Pearl in the Guru Gita
On Aug 28, 2007, at 9:57 PM, billy jim wrote: The Kriya-Yoga lineage of Kriya Babaji, Lahiri Mahasaya, Yukteshvar Giri and Yogananda has fully preserved both the yogic ascent- descent process and the direct realization process of Brahma-vidya in Shankara's lineage. Another reason I consider it more complete and balanced. Interesting, when they published yogandana's secret kriyas years ago in Tantra Magazine, they were the same as the basic practices of Taoist Inner Alchemy called the 'Microcosmic orbit'. And really these were intro practices in that system. It makes one wonder if that was all yogananda knew. If so, given the spiritual supermarket today, it's not so impressive.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 28, 2007, at 9:47 PM, authfriend wrote: Why did he decide to make an 'exception' to his current policy of not responding to my posts? Really Judy, there are probably college-level writing classes in the north Jersey area. Community colleges can be quite inexpensive. Here we go again kids: flabbergast |ËflabÉrËgast| |ËfløbÉrËgøst| |ËflabÉgÉ`Ëst| verb [ trans. ] [usu. as adj. ] ( flabbergasted) informal surprise (someone) greatly; astonish : this news has left me totally flabbergasted. ORIGIN late 18th cent.: of unknown origin. Uhmaybe you greatly astonished him? Sometimes stalking behavior is greatly astonishing to their victims... Snipped again by Vaj: Why did he attempt a detailed, lengthy, point-by- point rebuttal, claiming (falsely) that I had deliberately distorted the context? Was that because he was greatly astonished that I would so willingly stalk his every word? Why, for that matter, would he be greatly astonished that I would so willingly (that's as opposed to unwillingly, folks) stalk his every word when I've been doing it for *years* to expose his dishonesty? And why is Vaj valiantly pretending that my comments on Barry's multiple, contradictory versions of the Charlie Lutes tale had to do only with variations due to casual writing, when they so obviously had to do with *content* and zilch to do with casual writing? Why did Vaj pretend my coments had to do with Charlie's exact words, when I never mentioned what Charlie said? Why did Vaj likewise pretend that my big point was the variations in the length of time Barry said Charlie was kept waiting, when that was only a minor point? Why does Vaj continue to ignore the *major* point, the contradiction that makes one of Barry's versions a lie? Which parts of this post will Vaj snip if he responds in an attempt to obscure his own deceptions? Questions, questions...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Pearl in the Guru Gita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 28, 2007, at 9:57 PM, billy jim wrote: The Kriya-Yoga lineage of Kriya Babaji, Lahiri Mahasaya, Yukteshvar Giri and Yogananda has fully preserved both the yogic ascent- descent process and the direct realization process of Brahma- vidya in Shankara's lineage. Another reason I consider it more complete and balanced. Interesting, when they published yogandana's secret kriyas years ago in Tantra Magazine, they were the same as the basic practices of Taoist Inner Alchemy called the 'Microcosmic orbit'. And really these were intro practices in that system. It makes one wonder if that was all yogananda knew. If so, given the spiritual supermarket today, it's not so impressive. http://tinyurl.com/yt8yjk
[FairfieldLife] 'Got Gun?'
GENEVA (Reuters) - The United States has 90 guns for every 100 citizens, making it the most heavily armed society in the world, a report released on Tuesday said. U.S. citizens own 270 million of the world's 875 million known firearms, according to the Small Arms Survey 2007 by the Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies. About 4.5 million of the 8 million new guns manufactured worldwide each year are purchased in the United States, it said. There is roughly one firearm for every seven people worldwide. Without the United States, though, this drops to about one firearm per 10 people, it said. India had the world's second-largest civilian gun arsenal, with an estimated 46 million firearms outside law enforcement and the military, though this represented just four guns per 100 people there. China, ranked third with 40 million privately held guns, had 3 firearms per 100 people. Germany, France, Pakistan, Mexico, Brazil and Russia were next in the ranking of country's overall civilian gun arsenals. On a per-capita basis, Yemen had the second most heavily armed citizenry behind the United States, with 61 guns per 100 people, followed by Finland with 56, Switzerland with 46, Iraq with 39 and Serbia with 38. Continued... France, Canada, Sweden, Austria and Germany were next, each with about 30 guns per 100 people, while many poorer countries often associated with violence ranked much lower. Nigeria, for instance, had just one gun per 100 people. Firearms are very unevenly distributed around the world. The image we have of certain regions such as Africa or Latin America being awash with weapons -- these images are certainly misleading, Small Arms Survey director Keith Krause said. Weapons ownership may be correlated with rising levels of wealth, and that means we need to think about future demand in parts of the world where economic growth is giving people larger disposable income, he told a Geneva news conference. The report, which relied on government data, surveys and media reports to estimate the size of world arsenals, estimated there were 650 million civilian firearms worldwide, and 225 million held by law enforcement and military forces. Five years ago, the Small Arms Survey had estimated there were a total of just 640 million firearms globally. Civilian holdings of weapons worldwide are much larger than we previously believed, Krause said, attributing the increase largely to better research and more data on weapon distribution networks. Only about 12 percent of civilian weapons are thought to be registered with authorities. By Laura MacInnis (AP) - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorite Charlie Lutes story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 28, 2007, at 9:28 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: snip Judy will never realize that what others take as meaningless inconsistencies are for her great conquests to be strutted out into the collesium. Lurk, think about this for a minute: If the inconsistencies I pointed out in Barry's various versions of his tale about Charlie Lutes are meaningless, why do you think he went ballistic when I called attention to them? Uh, maybe because he was utterly flabbergasted that anyone could so willingly stalk his every word? why take it personally?:-) Wasn't that Barry took it personally, it's that he went to great pains to try to rebut and/or explain away the supposedly meaningless inconsistencies. (Vaj snipped the part of my post where I pointed this out, because it makes nonsense of his comment.) The point being that when I was seeking a way out of bondage, it was very valuable for me to have clear commentary, actually any commentary, on what I was saying, in order to further evaluate where I had to clear up my thinking, for my own good. The incidental reality that it is you as a person, Judy, vs. anyone else, is not the point that matters here, though for those uninterested in freedom, or more precisely, more interested in protecting the figments of their imagination they call themselves, is the point here. What happened to a seeker's humility? When I was in bondage, everything I did or did not do was focused on achieving freedom for myself, vs. protecting the illusions of centuries past and present. Only when we can focus like that will we achieve our freedom. Until then we are like minnows circling around and around in a near meaniningless pursuit of the recurring karma of time and space.:-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Pearl in the Guru Gita
Vaj, for you this is shameless speculation. I don't mean to be mean but you are better at speculating when you know at least something about the topic - rather than here where you know only what someone wrote. There are different levels of technical complexity in Lahiri Mahasaya's kriya-yoga, not just what you can read in Tantra magazine. Kriya-yoga is actually a Vaishnava tantric yoga using different mahamantras of Hari in an internal sacrifice (antaryaga). And that is just one level only. Taoist microscopic circuit functions in adjunct nadi-s, not sushumna, chintrini, etc. Tibetans use a microsopic type of process to prepare mediums for shamanic pocession by dharma-protectors. For the real Kriyavani-s, much of what they learn is oral transmission only with privacy samaya-s. You should be able to understand and honor this. I only know a little bit anyway but still cannot aid your speculation in this case. Go see Swami Prajanananda and receive initiation if you want to know enough to make one of your famous judgements ... i.e. it is just only like such and such or my Grandmother gave a more powerfull diksha in her kitchen while making peach cobbler, quoting Issac of Nineveh and drinking Johnny Walker Black. Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 28, 2007, at 9:57 PM, billy jim wrote: The Kriya-Yoga lineage of Kriya Babaji, Lahiri Mahasaya, Yukteshvar Giri and Yogananda has fully preserved both the yogic ascent-descent process and the direct realization process of Brahma-vidya in Shankara's lineage. Another reason I consider it more complete and balanced. Interesting, when they published yogandana's secret kriyas years ago in Tantra Magazine, they were the same as the basic practices of Taoist Inner Alchemy called the 'Microcosmic orbit'. And really these were intro practices in that system. It makes one wonder if that was all yogananda knew. If so, given the spiritual supermarket today, it's not so impressive. - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go. If I wanted this kind of judgment on my expression I would have stayed in the movement. Does the term Age of Enlightenment News mean anything to you? Once trollish behavior has been identified, anyone responding is doing it by choice. Some are obviously nuts or on the outer edges of odd. Some are entertaining if you don't take it personally. Limiting content freedom is a dark path. If you just control what you read, ignore posts that don't interest you and pay attention to what you like, no one will have to kick people off because you don't want to read their stuff. Self control, not group control. Curtis said it much better than I could have. Since many of us seem rather juvenile at times, try to remember the old childhood saying, “Sticks and stones can break my bones, but names can never hurt me.” Here’s another one we used to say: “I’m rubber and you’re glue. Everything bad you say to me bounces off of me and sticks to you.” And one from the Yoga Sutras: “Undisturbed calmness of mind is attained by cultivating friendliness toward the happy, compassion for the unhappy, delight in the virtuous, and indifference toward the wicked.” Negative posters tire themselves out very quickly if you ignore them. I use my real name, live in FF, founded this forum, and make some pretty controversial (and unfounded) statements. I take some pretty serious flak for this sometimes. When this happens, I remember the Robert Burns poem: “O would some Power the gift to give us To see ourselves as others see us!” I can’t blame these people for seeing me as some rakshasha-possessed, Maharishi-bashing ne’r do well. That’s how I used to view people who did what I’m doing. Are any of us completely innocent of doing the things we accuse others of doing? Look at your recent interchange with Nabby, Edg. He claimed to have flown 24 feet, and you went ballistic, using expletives, threatening physical violence, etc. Or this more recent interchange. I only read a fraction of the posts and may have missed many juicy details, but I gathered that someone called you some name and rather than ignoring that childish insult, you exploded, blowing smoke out your ears and threatening a law suit. You responded to a BB gun with a bazooka. Anyway, Curtis said it all: “Self control, not group control.” No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Christian fundie on Creme's Maitreya
A fundie got it right! Creme crap kapoop! --- qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MAITREYA - Maitreya, the Lord Master expected by the Buddhists, is, in fact, a fiction created by the New Ager Benjamin Creme... he says it is not a religion, but he advises people to meet weekly in Maitreya Groups to create good Energy... - Benjamin Creme, born in Glasgow, Scotland in 1922, is a co-editor of the New Age magazine Share International, and considers himself to be like another John the Baptist, the precursor of Maitreya, to make the initial approach to the public, to help create a climate of hope and expectancy. - Maitreya, the Master, in Creme's fiction, is supposed to be the Christ expected by the Christians, the Messiah expected by the Jews, the reincarnation of Krishna expected by the Hindus, the Iman Mahdi expected by the Muslims, the Lord Maitreya expected by the Buddhists. - Creme attracted much attention in the early 1980s announcing the coming of the Lord Maitreya by 1982; whe Maitreya failed to appear, Creme's popularity quikly died. - However, Creme says that Maitreya is already alive, emerged from the Himalayas in 1977, and is living in London, in the Pakistani- Indian community as an ordinary man... but on the Day of Declaration the international television networks will be linked together, and Maitreya will be invited to speak to the world; we will see his face on television, but each of us will hear his words telepathically. - Creme says that Maitreya is already making unexpected apparitions in different countries, like in Kenya in 1991, in Uganda with the healing of 400 patients with AIDS, and the healing waters in Tlacote (Mexico), Nordenau (Germany), Nadana (India) ... but all of them unsubstantiated... he appears and disappears, without anybody's notice, claims the fiction story of Creme!. - Creme claims Maitreya predicted the fall of Communism and dozens of world social and political events, but all unsubstantiated, predicted after they had happened!. - A major event predicted by Maitreya, through Creme, in 1988, was an international stock market crash... but now, in 1997, still did not happened! - Creme calls him the Master of all Masters, including the Master of Jesus Christ... the Head of the Spiritual Hierarchy of Masters, the World Teacher, the Lord Maitreya... though Maitreya calls himself the Teacher. ... For Creme, Maitreya means the Lord of Joy and Gladness, dedicated to the reunification of all religions and humanity, and for the economic, social, and political welfare of the whole world. - For me, Maitreya is another Hindu-Buddhist cult, a false Messiah... Maitreya is not God, as Creme claims... the face of Maitreya exists, a good looking Hindu or Buddhist man, as given by the fiction story of Creme. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
