[FairfieldLife] e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right

2008-11-22 Thread TurquoiseB
[ Some friends of mine from the French AI company
I work for worked on this project while on sabbatical
(every developer in the company and most of the market-
ing people have at least one Ph.D.), using some of the 
software that they write for us. I wonder how long it 
will be until we use 'Einstein' as the code name for 
a new project. :-) ]

PARIS (AFP) – It's taken more than a century, but Einstein's
celebrated formula e=mc2 has finally been corroborated, thanks to a
heroic computational effort by French, German and Hungarian physicists.

A brainpower consortium led by Laurent Lellouch of France's Centre for
Theoretical Physics, using some of the world's mightiest
supercomputers, have set down the calculations for estimating the mass
of protons and neutrons, the particles at the nucleus of atoms.

According to the conventional model of particle physics, protons and
neutrons comprise smaller particles known as quarks, which in turn are
bound by gluons.

The odd thing is this: the mass of gluons is zero and the mass of
quarks is only five percent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 percent?

The answer, according to the study published in the US journal Science
on Thursday, comes from the energy from the movements and interactions
of quarks and gluons.

In other words, energy and mass are equivalent, as Einstein proposed
in his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905.

The e=mc2 formula shows that mass can be converted into energy, and
energy can be converted into mass.

By showing how much energy would be released if a certain amount of
mass were to be converted into energy, the equation has been used many
times, most famously as the inspirational basis for building atomic
weapons.

But resolving e=mc2 at the scale of sub-atomic particles -- in
equations called quantum chromodynamics -- has been fiendishly difficult.

Until now, this has been a hypothesis, France's National Centre for
Scientific Research (CNRS) said proudly in a press release.

It has now been corroborated for the first time.

For those keen to know more: the computations involve envisioning
space and time as part of a four-dimensional crystal lattice, with
discrete points spaced along columns and rows.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...

2008-11-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think she will be great, so much stronger than Condi.  
 It also speaks well of Obama that he picked a person who 
 will challenge him since he disagreed with her foreign 
 policy POV in the primaries. He is already doing the 
 opposite of what Bush did (pick a yes women) so
 he must be on track.

Actually, I agree. I occasionally post stuff
about Hillary to taunt the compulsive Hillbots
into posting out early, but I think it's an
excellent choice, because *it will force Hillary
Clinton to develop skills she currently does not
have*. 

Her whole act is about barging into a room with
her dick not only out of her pants, but as angry
as she is. And that is the *opposite* of what is
required in the world of international diplomacy.
Diplomacy requires tact, and keeping your dick 
in your pants as long as humanly possible. 

I knew a woman in the Rama trip who was a Bitch
with a capital 'B.' She literally made every 
person in the small computer company she worked 
with hate her, because of the callous and thought-
less way she treated them. They finally bought 
out her shares to get rid of her.

So what did she do? She became a psychologist. 
She went back to school, got her license, and set
up a practice. And today, several years later, 
the change in her and in the way she treats
*everyone*, not just her patients, is extra-
ordinary. She wisely put herself in the position
of *having* to be compassionate, *having* to keep
her inner dick in her pants, *having* to find a
way to help the people she was interacting with
rather than yell at them and blame them for *her*
failures. And it transformed her into a real 
human being.

I suspect that, if Hillary has *any* chops at all,
and there is any substance underneath her bluster,
being Secretary Of State for a few years will have
a similar effect on her. Given the diminished 
stature of the United States, it's not as if she
*could* barge into a room with dick swinging any
more. The U.S. has neither the military nor eco-
nomic might to swing its dick at *anyone* any more.
And to do so would be antithetical to her boss's
view of what America's place in a new world should
be. She's going to *have* to learn diplomacy, and
*have* to learn compassion, and *have* to learn to
keep her dick in her pants. 

For that reason I think it's a brilliant choice on
Obama's part. He is giving her a chance to show that
she has another side, and to prove it. And she will,
one way or another. If she tries doing her job the
way she's done it before (like when she single-
handedly derailed health care reform for a decade
by acting like a swinging dick), she won't last very
long, and she'll have no prestigious Senate seat to
return to. She'll be SOL, and it'll be her own fault.
If she tries to run the swinging dick routine on
other countries, they will laugh at her, because 
they are tired of it, and they'll quickly put her
in her place. If she tries to run it on her boss, 
he will put her in her place even faster, probably
without the laughter.

The reaction of the Hillary camp to this offer has
shown that they are still in campaign mode, long
after it was appropriate. They're still milking this
offer for headlines for Hillary. That will come 
to an abrupt halt the moment she accepts the offer 
(if she does). She'll have to change from dick-out 
campaign mode to keep-it-in-your-pants-and-just-do-
the-job mode.

If she can. That is yet to be proven. It'll be 
interesting to watch.

 Here is how I view our new president:
 
 http://images.plurk.com/36733_e7f482ba81beda85c3717278242ee9a1.jpg 

Exactly. 

This man keeps his dick in his pants. So will the 
people who work for him, unless they fuck up and 
don't do what they were hired to do. Then God help
them. It remains to be seen what Hillary will do
with the opportunity she has been given. Someone
who really cared about her country would take the
ball and run with it and drop the ego in favor of
selfless service. Whether she does will indicate
how attached she is *to* that ego.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread TurquoiseB
Great rap, Curtis. Tangential comments below.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Women and men who are hot learn to use it. They learn that it is
 sometimes a plus and sometimes a minus but on the whole it opens 
 a lot of doors for them. 

One of my heroes, Charlie Chaplin, once said,
The saddest thing I can imagine is to get 
used to luxury. For me, the saddest thing I 
can imagine is to get used to being able to
wrap people with your looks.

Good-looking people often get LAZY because of
how easy it is to wrap people with their looks.
They skimp on learning and they skimp on real
achievement, because they've never needed them.
They've gotten by on their looks for so long
that they think they'll be able to forever. I
would list George W. Bush as such a person, and
I would *certainly* list Sarah Palin as such a
person. Both are intellectually lazy, but they
*became* intellectually lazy because they never
had to use their intellect.

skip to
 I used to look too young as a young adult man.  It caused me trouble
 in business sometimes.  Now I've got the salt and pepper hair and
 people take me a bit more seriously, but I became invisible to 20
 something women!  Oh well, that age group is more trouble than they
 are worth anyway, so I have to suck it up and move with the 
 changes. I've noticed that men and women my age go through this 
 identity change and everybody handles it differently.  Women 
 discover that men no longer notice them to hold the door for them. 
 They don't find guys quite as eager to help them in stores after 
 a lifetime of men falling all over themselves to assist.  

I once had the education of seeing this happen
to a woman I knew in Santa Fe, the night it first
happened. She was in her mid-forties, and still
attractive in my opinion, but definitely losing
her wrap. (I knew that, but she didn't, until the
night in question.)

I was clearly not interested in her, but she asked
me to go with her to a rock club anyway, because
(as she put it), I desperately need to get laid.
The thought never occurred to her that she would
NOT get laid. Such a thing had never happened to
her in her entire life. No matter where she went,
her whole life, all she had to do to get laid was
to pout a little or hike her skirt up a bit, and
some man would come running.

Well, on this particular night, no one came running.
In fact, after she noticed this and turned more
aggressive in her attempts to wrap the men at the 
club, some of them ran the other way.

She went home alone. You should have seen the look
on her face. It was like watching a vampire come 
home hungry after a night of hunting that hadn't
worked out as expected.

And, as you suggest, Curtis, the key to whether she
was worth spending time with in the future was how
she *handled* this realization that she could no 
longer have anyone she wanted. This particular woman
didn't handle it well, and went into a few years of
desperation mode until she finally got it and 
settled into being a little more comfortable with
her actual age and appearance.

 Guys like me stop getting the furtive
 glance from 20 something women (unless they are practicing or hate
 their dads) and we have to acknowledge this gracefully and not be
 bitter about it, not blame women for doing what is natural.  

Tell me about it. :-)

How you handle becoming sexually invisible to women
you still find sexually *very* visible is what makes
or breaks you as a guy IMO. 

 That's OK
 cuz if you are not bitter, you can find a person who matches your
 stage of life and continue the party.

The ones who get bitter -- be they men or women --
basically don't get to party any more, period.
They get rejected as the bitter old fucks they
are, and nobody -- not even people their own
age -- want to be around them, much less get it
on with them.

What interests me in a woman over her mid-forties
is how well she wears it, and how comfortable 
she is with her real age. I would imagine that 
it's the same thing women find attractive (or 
unattractive) in older men.

It's a great *gift* to no longer be able to rely
on your looks. It forces you to rely on deeper
things, and to develop them.





[FairfieldLife] A couple of questions about YF

2008-11-22 Thread cardemaister

1. How can doing one session (a couple of minutes) of
 YF seemingly cure a disorder that appeared as a 
sharp and burning but fortunately only momentary pain
in my left shoulder after stretching my arms, especially 
upwards, like for instance for doing chin-ups?
That had lasted several months. The main reason might
have been practicing boogie woogie almost every day after
buying a digi-piano last January.

2. Why does YF sometimes seem to make one needlessly
horny, so much so that it's for instance, this time, a bit hard to
concentrate on reading and studying Brahma-suutras, which
I've, as a rather slow reader because of a mild visual defect,
been doing for a couple of days now, although someone with
a fairly normal vision would read and study them through
in a couple of hours, because there are only some 500 of them
and most of them consist of only a couple of words, although
the translations usually are remarkably longer to make
them suutras at least somewhat understandable?



[FairfieldLife] Re: A couple of questions about YF

2008-11-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 1. How can doing one session (a couple of minutes) of
  YF seemingly cure a disorder that appeared as a 
 sharp and burning but fortunately only momentary pain
 in my left shoulder after stretching my arms, especially 
 upwards, like for instance for doing chin-ups?
 That had lasted several months. The main reason might
 have been practicing boogie woogie almost every day after
 buying a digi-piano last January.

One early article about YF suggested that the shaking part
was apparently related to aligning the spine.

 
 2. Why does YF sometimes seem to make one needlessly
 horny, so much so that it's for instance, this time, a bit hard to
 concentrate on reading and studying Brahma-suutras, which
 I've, as a rather slow reader because of a mild visual defect,
 been doing for a couple of days now, although someone with
 a fairly normal vision would read and study them through
 in a couple of hours, because there are only some 500 of them
 and most of them consist of only a couple of words, although
 the translations usually are remarkably longer to make
 them suutras at least somewhat understandable?


Excessive horniness from YF isn't exactly unknown, on my part. Shortly 
after learning, I managed to get 2 women pregnant within a few months 
of each other, out of the 4 I was seeing during that time.

One went on to have my daughter and hasn't spoken to me in years. One 
went on to have my son and still lives with me in a platonic marriage that
may last the rest of our lives. One went on to become involved in a 3-way
lesbian marriage living in a log cabin in the middle of nowhere, and the 
last hasn't spoken to me since the day I informed her my son was on the 
way nearly 23 years ago.


Count your blessings if the only sexual interference YF causes in your life
 is that you find it hard to study


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Stick to it!

2008-11-22 Thread cardemaister

http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/bs_3/bs_3-3-34.html

 One may follow any Vidya according to his option, and stick to it
till he reaches the goal, as the result of all Vidyas or the goal is
the same, namely the realisation of Self or Brahman. If we adopt many,
the mind will get distracted and the spiritual progress will be
retarded. When the Brahman is realised through one meditation, a
second meditation would be purposeless.

Therefore, one must select one particular Vidya and stick to it and
remain intent on it till the fruit of the Vidya is attained through
the intuition of the object of meditation.



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Shiva Sutras'

2008-11-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote:
  If you don't understand the difference, then 
  you're probably not qualified to comment. 
 
Lawson wrote:
 For those who are awaree of how different they 
 are from those around them, everything becomes 
 an opportunity to reveal those differences.

Or, everything becomes an opportunity to reveal
the unity in the experience of pure consciopusness.
Differences are only apparent - there's really only
a sameness in the experience.

According to Bernard, Kashmere Saivism accepts 
the fundamental premise that pure conciousness is 
the substance of the universe. 

Work cited:

'Philosophical Foundations of India' 
by Theos. Bernard
Rider, 1945
Amazon Paperback 

Being the last living guru of Kashmir Saivism 
meant that Swamiji held the pure distillation of 
a rich spiritual tradition

Self Realization in Kashmere Shaivism
The Oral teachings of Swami Laksmanjoo
By John Hughes
SUNY, 1994

Centering: The Supreme Awakening: 
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/centering.htm



[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
Rick Archer wrote:
 ...and the 51 may have been a Yahoo glitch.

So, Rick, there may be a Yahoo 'glitch'? This
doesn't even make any sense.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  I think she will be great, so much stronger than Condi.  
  It also speaks well of Obama that he picked a person who 
  will challenge him since he disagreed with her foreign 
  policy POV in the primaries.

In fact, their views on foreign policy are very close
to identical. The minor differences became wildly
exaggerated and oversimplified in the course of the
campaign.

 He is already doing the 
  opposite of what Bush did (pick a yes women) so
  he must be on track.
 
 Actually, I agree. I occasionally post stuff
 about Hillary to taunt the compulsive Hillbots
 into posting out early,

Actually, sometimes Barry plays this childish
game, and sometimes he's dead serious about
what he posts concerning Hillary. The Hillbots
know the difference and don't respond to the
former.

 but I think it's an
 excellent choice, because *it will force Hillary
 Clinton to develop skills she currently does not
 have*. 
 
 Her whole act is about barging into a room with
 her dick not only out of her pants, but as angry
 as she is. And that is the *opposite* of what is
 required in the world of international diplomacy.

This is from Pluto, totally untrue. It reflects how
politically ignorant Barry is to even suggest such
a thing, but even more than that, how threatening he
finds strong women in general and Hillary in particular.

Hillary is, in fact, widely known for her diplomatic
skills. Foreign leaders have enormous respect for her;
and even the Republicans in the Senate rave about how
easy she is to work with.

snip
 I suspect that, if Hillary has *any* chops at all,
 and there is any substance underneath her bluster,
 being Secretary Of State for a few years will have
 a similar effect on her.

Not to mention how utterly ludicrous it would be,
given the current situation of the U.S. internationally,
for Obama to pick someone for SoS who had to learn how
to be diplomatic on the job and would take a few years
to do so. He can't afford that risk and is way smarter
than to take it. The last thing the country needs is a
replay, even for just a few years, of the Bush dick-
swinging arrogance in foreign relations. He's picked
Hillary because he knows she'll get it right from the
start.

snip
 For that reason I think it's a brilliant choice on
 Obama's part. He is giving her a chance to show that
 she has another side, and to prove it. And she will,
 one way or another. If she tries doing her job the
 way she's done it before (like when she single-
 handedly derailed health care reform for a decade
 by acting like a swinging dick)

This was a vastly more complicated situation than 
Barry has even the vaguest knowledge of. He's not aware
that it was the right wing at the time that created
the false story that it was all Hillary's fault, and
of course pro-Obama liberals picked it up for use
against her in the primary campaign.

Barry, of course, isn't interested in the facts, but
for anyone who is, one account of the debacle from
someone who was a White House senior health care
adviser at the time and intimately involved in the
process, titled The Hillarycare Mythology, see:

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_hillarycare_mythology
http://tinyurl.com/2thebl

A more detailed 1995 Atlantic article by James Fallows,
entitled A Triumph of Misinformation, is here:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/199501/hillary-clinton-health-plan
http://tinyurl.com/5znjm4




[FairfieldLife] Re: Adolf Hitler and the Real Estate Crash

2008-11-22 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Funny  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmcf4Y3lGM





[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I
 scored 81.82%. How about you?

87.88% (4 wrong out of 33). I thought most of
the questions were elementary (but with some
of them, it helped to be older).

I was surprised that I got all 9 of the
economic (25-33) questions right. That isn't
usually my strong suit.







SPOILERS FOLLOW








I got these wrong:

4)   What was the main issue in the debates between
Abraham Lincoln and Stephen A. Douglas in 1858? 
A. Is slavery morally wrong? 
B. Would slavery be allowed to expand to new territories? 
C. Do Southern states have the constitutional right to
leave the union? 
D. Are free African Americans citizens of the United States? 

I really didn't know. I figured it was B or C but 
guessed C.

7)   What was the source of the following phrase:
Government of the people, for the people, by the people? 
A. the speech I Have a Dream 
B. Declaration of Independence 
C. U.S. Constitution 
D. Gettysburg Address

Knew it was either B or D but picked B.

Others who got this wrong are saying the mistake was
embarrassing, and the introductory material on the
site seems to think it was the most shocking mistake
most people made. I beg to disagree. When a phrase
is that familiar, it's often very difficult to recall
which of several equally familiar sources it came
from.

9)   Under Our Constitution, some powers belong to the
federal government. What is one power of the federal
government? 
A. Make treaties 
B. Levy income taxes 
C. Maintain prisons 
D. Natural Disaster Aid 

Thought both A and B were correct, picked B. I still
don't understand why it's wrong. If the federal
government doesn't have the power to levy income
taxes, who does?? Somebody please explain! I assumed
income taxes meant federal income taxes, but maybe
it's wrong because states also levy income taxes.

11)   What impact did the Anti-Federalists have on the
United States Constitution? 
A. their arguments helped lead to the adoption of the
Bill of Rights 
B. their arguments helped lead to the abolition of the
slave trade 
C. their influence ensured that the federal government
would maintain a standing army 
D. their influence ensured that the federal government
would have the power to tax

Didn't know this one; figured it was A or B, picked B.
Had no idea who the Anti-Federalists were or when they
were active. Looked them up afterward; they were against
the ratification of the Constitution. The Bill of Rights
was proposed to placate the states that would otherwise
not have voted for ratification due to the influence of
the Anti-Federalists. This was well before the slave
trade had become a big issue, and it isn't addressed in
the Constitution anyway, so that was a really dumb
mistake.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama-jaya-hetu-dvayam?

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
  Here's the real issue: It simply doesn't occur
  to men who don't have an underlying streak of
  misogyny to insult/attack/criticize a woman
  using terms that denigrate her on the basis of
  her gender.
  
  Doing so is therefore a sure sign of a bad
  attitude toward women. *Especially* in a
  person who styles himself a writer, I might add,
  because he presumably has a larger and more
  varied vocabulary on which to draw to formulate
  his criticisms/insults/attacks.
  
  It's a dead giveaway. And the pretense here is
  all yours.
 
 Actually, I've found that using gender-neutral
 terms when insulting a woman gets a MUCH bigger
 response. Example called a woman a jerk once 
 instead of a bitch.  She was quite upset.

That's not surprising. In my experience, women
tend to take gender-based insults a lot less
seriously *personally* because the guy who uses
them is so obviously a loser. He's handed them
a weapon to use against him; he's virtually
declared that his point of view is worthless,
grounded in misogyny rather than any real 
complaint against the woman.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz

2008-11-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
 9)   Under Our Constitution, some powers belong to the
 federal government. What is one power of the federal
 government? 
 A. Make treaties 
 B. Levy income taxes 
 C. Maintain prisons 
 D. Natural Disaster Aid 
 
 Thought both A and B were correct, picked B. I still
 don't understand why it's wrong. If the federal
 government doesn't have the power to levy income
 taxes, who does?? Somebody please explain! I assumed
 income taxes meant federal income taxes, but maybe
 it's wrong because states also levy income taxes.


I guess it is not mentioned as a governmental power in the
Constitution. I think this is one of the issues that the crazy The
government can't legally tax me so I'm not paying any guys use in
their arguments.  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I
  scored 81.82%. How about you?
 
 87.88% (4 wrong out of 33). I thought most of
 the questions were elementary (but with some
 of them, it helped to be older).
 
 I was surprised that I got all 9 of the
 economic (25-33) questions right. That isn't
 usually my strong suit.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 SPOILERS FOLLOW
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I got these wrong:
 
 4)   What was the main issue in the debates between
 Abraham Lincoln and Stephen A. Douglas in 1858? 
 A. Is slavery morally wrong? 
 B. Would slavery be allowed to expand to new territories? 
 C. Do Southern states have the constitutional right to
 leave the union? 
 D. Are free African Americans citizens of the United States? 
 
 I really didn't know. I figured it was B or C but 
 guessed C.
 
 7)   What was the source of the following phrase:
 Government of the people, for the people, by the people? 
 A. the speech I Have a Dream 
 B. Declaration of Independence 
 C. U.S. Constitution 
 D. Gettysburg Address
 
 Knew it was either B or D but picked B.
 
 Others who got this wrong are saying the mistake was
 embarrassing, and the introductory material on the
 site seems to think it was the most shocking mistake
 most people made. I beg to disagree. When a phrase
 is that familiar, it's often very difficult to recall
 which of several equally familiar sources it came
 from.
 
 9)   Under Our Constitution, some powers belong to the
 federal government. What is one power of the federal
 government? 
 A. Make treaties 
 B. Levy income taxes 
 C. Maintain prisons 
 D. Natural Disaster Aid 
 
 Thought both A and B were correct, picked B. I still
 don't understand why it's wrong. If the federal
 government doesn't have the power to levy income
 taxes, who does?? Somebody please explain! I assumed
 income taxes meant federal income taxes, but maybe
 it's wrong because states also levy income taxes.
 
 11)   What impact did the Anti-Federalists have on the
 United States Constitution? 
 A. their arguments helped lead to the adoption of the
 Bill of Rights 
 B. their arguments helped lead to the abolition of the
 slave trade 
 C. their influence ensured that the federal government
 would maintain a standing army 
 D. their influence ensured that the federal government
 would have the power to tax
 
 Didn't know this one; figured it was A or B, picked B.
 Had no idea who the Anti-Federalists were or when they
 were active. Looked them up afterward; they were against
 the ratification of the Constitution. The Bill of Rights
 was proposed to placate the states that would otherwise
 not have voted for ratification due to the influence of
 the Anti-Federalists. This was well before the slave
 trade had become a big issue, and it isn't addressed in
 the Constitution anyway, so that was a really dumb
 mistake.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz

2008-11-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I scored 81.82%. How 
 about you?
 
 Take the quiz: http://americancivicliteracy.org/

SPOILERS AGAIN!
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I missed one, but I'm going to quibble about it. :-)

33)   If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

The quiz says that D is the correct answer, but
it is only if you assume that what they are talking
about is that the *average* tax per person equals
the *average* government spending per person. 

Obviously, neither is true if you do not throw the
word average in there. So I went for A, which isn't
literally true either, because they could have debt
from previous years, but I thought it was better 
than D, which was worded even more sloppily.

I was WAY surprised I did as well as I did, and have
to admit to guessing based on this makes the most
sense rather than actually knowing the answer. Fun.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
   wrote:
   
Barry is so sunk in fantasy, so convinced that
he won't be held accountable for what he says,
that he feels perfectly free to lie about what's
in an article in the *New York Times*:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
 An article in HuffPost today (originally from
 the New York Times) says that all of the talk
 about Hillary being offered the position of 
 SoS in the first place was leaked to the press
 by the *Clinton* people, not from the Obama 
 camp. The latter are quite distraught about 
 the leaks.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5cd3c6

   -snip-
   
   i saw the same thing on cnn and msnbc - the supposed 
   source of the SoS leak was a common story on the news,
   nothing confined to just the huffington post. just one
   of those things that comes and goes. who cares if its
   true or not? i personally think hc would make one 
   hell of a good sec o' state.
  
  You are on the right track ed11.
  
  Hillary's people carefully leaked it.
 
 Wow. Now Tom's lying too.
 
 Somebody explain it to me: Why do we tolerate liars
 on this forum, again?

because most of us don't care? if we didn't tolerate lying, or just 
making stuff up, B would have been gone long ago. as it is he is a 
colorful member of the forum. what's the big deal? this isn't some 
media like blog. its a place to post anything.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...

2008-11-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  I think she will be great, so much stronger than Condi.  
  It also speaks well of Obama that he picked a person who 
  will challenge him since he disagreed with her foreign 
  policy POV in the primaries. He is already doing the 
  opposite of what Bush did (pick a yes women) so
  he must be on track.
 
 Actually, I agree. I occasionally post stuff
 about Hillary to taunt the compulsive Hillbots
 into posting out early, but I think it's an
 excellent choice, because *it will force Hillary
 Clinton to develop skills she currently does not
 have*. 
-snip-

i would not be comfortable thinking that the SoS would be getting  
on the job training to improve her character. c'mon, this is a 
pretty important job. if the sos fucks up a meeting with someone, it 
means more than better luck next time. i think clinton knows how to 
play it from day one. to entrust the job to someone who is still 
learning would be at least extremely irresponsible. 



[FairfieldLife] The story of the story

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
For anyone who is interested in the facts (i.e., not
Barry), there's a fascinating piece in the New York
Observer tracing the development of the Hillary-for-
SoS story through November 18:

http://www.observer.com/2008/media/foggy-bottom-top

It begins:

Andrea Mitchell started it.

It was she who told viewers of NBC's The Nightly News
With Brian Williams on Thursday, Nov. 13, that Hillary
Clinton 'is under consideration to be secretary of
state.'...

On Nov. 13, Ms. Mitchell came on with Brian Williams
and offered a very tight, succinct report. Few details,
but 'two advisers to Barack Obama' confirmed that, yes,
Hillary was under consideration for the secretary of
state post. It was at this point we knew she made a
business trip to Chicago, but we didn't know why. (Ms
Mitchell reported that an 'adviser says that [it] was
on personal business.')

[Note that when the story first broke, Clinton's people
weren't even acknowledging she had had a meeting with
Obama.]

It took real reporting. Ms. Mitchell said this wasn't
a 'trial balloon' that the Obama or Clinton people
wanted out there. This wasn't a story that both camps
were planting to see how it played out.

'There are several people who have said, This is a
campaign that hadn't leaked for 22 months and now
they're leaking like a sieve!' she said in an
interview with Off the Record. I want to make this
clear. This is something I picked up 10 days earlier
and had really worked on.'

Here's the video of her scoop from Nightly News:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619#27706294





[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  9)   Under Our Constitution, some powers belong to the
  federal government. What is one power of the federal
  government? 
  A. Make treaties 
  B. Levy income taxes 
  C. Maintain prisons 
  D. Natural Disaster Aid 
  
  Thought both A and B were correct, picked B. I still
  don't understand why it's wrong. If the federal
  government doesn't have the power to levy income
  taxes, who does?? Somebody please explain! I assumed
  income taxes meant federal income taxes, but maybe
  it's wrong because states also levy income taxes.
 
 I guess it is not mentioned as a governmental power in
 the Constitution. I think this is one of the issues that
 the crazy The government can't legally tax me so I'm
 not paying any guys use in their arguments.

OIC, thanks. Yeah, I've heard that but didn't recall
it.

I got the distinct impression from the last set of
questions, on economics, that the test-makers leaned
right. This question might be more evidence of that.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz

2008-11-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  9)   Under Our Constitution, some powers belong to the
  federal government. What is one power of the federal
  government? 
  A. Make treaties 
  B. Levy income taxes 
  C. Maintain prisons 
  D. Natural Disaster Aid 
  
  Thought both A and B were correct, picked B. I still
  don't understand why it's wrong. If the federal
  government doesn't have the power to levy income
  taxes, who does?? Somebody please explain! I assumed
  income taxes meant federal income taxes, but maybe
  it's wrong because states also levy income taxes.
 
 
 I guess it is not mentioned as a governmental power in the
 Constitution. I think this is one of the issues that the crazy The
 government can't legally tax me so I'm not paying any guys use in
 their arguments.  
-snip-

it is kind of a trick question because the ability of the congress 
to levy a federal income tax became law as a result of the 16th 
amendment to the constitution, ratified in 1913. so technically the 
constitution does include answer B above. 

I got 84.85% on the civics test also.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
snip
   Hillary's people carefully leaked it.
  
  Wow. Now Tom's lying too.
  
  Somebody explain it to me: Why do we tolerate liars
  on this forum, again?
 
 because most of us don't care? 

Well, obviously. The question is, why not?

if we didn't tolerate lying, or just 
 making stuff up, B would have been gone long ago. as it is he is a 
 colorful member of the forum.

Along with several others who make lying a habit.

 what's the big deal? this isn't some 
 media like blog. its a place to post anything.

The very first sentence of the group's description on
the home page is:

Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers
(and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. 

One would think that deliberate falsehoods were not
encompassed by that description.

The other problem is the hypocrisy. People here are
oh-so-quick to accuse TMO folks of lying. They also
are outraged at the apparent lies of public figures
of all sorts. Hillary was widely pilloried here for
her story about being under sniper fire in Tusla,
just for one example.

Why are we intolerant of the lies of people outside
FFL but perfectly fine with the lies of those within
it? Why do we not tolerate lying from important 
public figures, but don't see anything wrong with
lying by our associates?

Why the double standard?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...

2008-11-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
  Her whole act is about barging into a room with
  her dick not only out of her pants, but as angry
  as she is. And that is the *opposite* of what is
  required in the world of international diplomacy.
 
Judy wrote:
 Hillary is, in fact, widely known for her diplomatic
 skills. Foreign leaders have enormous respect for her;
 and even the Republicans in the Senate rave about how
 easy she is to work with.
 
Which diplomatic occasion was Hillary Clinton involved
in? Do U.S. Senators engage in international diplomacy?
Apparently Senator Clinton has never had to engage in 
'high-stakes' diplomacy, which is why selecting her for 
SoS is a gamble. Nobody really knows how she will fit 
in with Obama's foreign policies.

'Obama Tilts to Center, Inviting a Clash of Ideas'
By David E. Sanger
New York Times, November 21, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/67p9cx



[FairfieldLife] Psychics say business is thriving

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
November 23, 2008

Love, Jobs  401(k)s
 
By RUTH LA FERLA

ON a good day last summer, Thomas Taccetta, a stock
trader, might have checked his financial charts
before plotting the day's investments. Today he is
likely to check in with his psychic as well. I'll
play the broadest index, the S.P. 500, Mr.
Taccetta said, and if she tells me she is getting
a negative view, I will sell. 

Since September, when the Dow collapsed, Mr.
Taccetta, who trades for his own portfolio in Boca
Raton, Fla., has talked with his psychic about once
a month, roughly twice as often as a year ago.
There is no rhyme or reason to the way the market
is trading, he said. When conditions are this
volatile, consulting a psychic can be as good a
strategy as any other. 

In an era when even Henry M. Paulson Jr., the
Treasury secretary, changes his mind weekly about
how to rescue the United States economy, Mr.
Taccetta's decision to seek the advice of a psychic
may not seem all that irrational. With Washington
flinging pieces of the $700 billion bailout package
around, dithering about whom to rescue — homeowners?
automakers? cousin Fred? — a good set of tarot cards
might come in handy. 

Your mortgage agents, your realtors, your bankers,
you can't go to these people anymore, said Tori
Hartman, a psychic in Los Angeles. They're just
reading a script — at least that's how my clients
feel. People are sensing that the traditional avenues
have not worked, that all of a sudden this so-called
security that they've built up isn't there anymore.
They come to a psychic for a different perspective

Many more men have joined the ranks of seekers. In
the old days men would turn to their wives and ask,
`What did that goofball say, honey?'  said Michael
Lutins, a New York writer and astrologer. Now they
are raising their heads, interested in matters that
were once considered women's stuff. 

Read more at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/23/fashion/23psychic.html?ref=fashion

http://tinyurl.com/6gfpl8




[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
Judy wrote:
 Why are we intolerant of the lies of people outside
 FFL but perfectly fine with the lies of those within
 it? Why do we not tolerate lying from important 
 public figures, but don't see anything wrong with
 lying by our associates?
 
 Why the double standard?

Remaining silent about a posted topic or statement
usually denotes agreement? If so, then everyone here
is a big liar many times over. But in fact according
to a recent study, the average person tells a fib
dozens of times per minute in ordinary conversation.
But why would someone post falsehoods on a 'news 
group'? 



[FairfieldLife] Clear and Present Danger?

2008-11-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
The Obama administration is about to discover 
that the terrorists detained at Guantánamo are 
there for good reason:

The most dangerous men currently incarcerated 
at Guantánamo are the 14 high value detainees. 
The Bush administration gave them this designation 
because they are uniquely lethal, having planned 
and participated in the most devastating terrorist 
attacks in history. Their collective dossier 
includes, among other attacks, 9/11, the American 
embassy bombings (August 7, 1998), the USS Cole 
bombing (October 12, 2000), and the Bali bombings 
(October 12, 2002). They are responsible for 
murdering thousands of civilians around the globe, 
from the eastern United States to Southeast Asia. 
Had they not been captured, they surely would have 
murdered thousands more.

Read more:

'Clear and Present Danger'
by Thomas Joscelyn
Weekly Standard, Dec. 12, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/5lxq25



[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
 snip
Hillary's people carefully leaked it.
   
   Wow. Now Tom's lying too.
   
   Somebody explain it to me: Why do we tolerate liars
   on this forum, again?
  
  because most of us don't care? 
 
 Well, obviously. The question is, why not?
 
 if we didn't tolerate lying, or just 
  making stuff up, B would have been gone long ago. as it is he is 
a 
  colorful member of the forum.
 
 Along with several others who make lying a habit.
 
  what's the big deal? this isn't some 
  media like blog. its a place to post anything.
 
 The very first sentence of the group's description on
 the home page is:
 
 Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers
 (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. 
 
 One would think that deliberate falsehoods were not
 encompassed by that description.
 
 The other problem is the hypocrisy. People here are
 oh-so-quick to accuse TMO folks of lying. They also
 are outraged at the apparent lies of public figures
 of all sorts. Hillary was widely pilloried here for
 her story about being under sniper fire in Tusla,
 just for one example.
 
 Why are we intolerant of the lies of people outside
 FFL but perfectly fine with the lies of those within
 it? Why do we not tolerate lying from important 
 public figures, but don't see anything wrong with
 lying by our associates?
 
 Why the double standard?

it seems to be in respective interpretations of the FFL group 
description:

Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and 
finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. 

for me, if someone is just deliberately distorting stuff or even 
making it up out of their desire to get a rise out of others, i am 
not really interested in that; it isn't a topic of interest for me. 
rather than take the person to task for it, i just move on.

with regard to a double standard on lies from public figures vs 
those here, it is all in the ramifications of the lies. if someone 
on this forum lies or distorts stuff, what is the result? nothing, 
really.

imo, it is a big world and some poster making shit up is nothing to 
be concerned about in the least.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
 
  You are on the right track ed11.
  
  Hillary's people carefully leaked it.
  
  Clintonistas live for the drama.
  
24/7  365
 
 Like some others we know :-), they actually 
 seem to rate their popularity by how many 
 people dislike them. It's like they base
 their effectiveness rating on their own
 I'm a victim index.

Actually, some of us rate our effectiveness
on how definitively we're able to expose the
lies of those who attempt to victimize
Hillary.

Not that Hillary worries about the wannabe
victimizers. But just on general principles,
people like Barry, who casually and habitually
lie--about Hillary or anybody else--need to be
publicly shamed and scorned.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz

2008-11-22 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I scored 81.82%. How
  about you?
 
  Take the quiz: http://americancivicliteracy.org/

 SPOILERS AGAIN!
 (scroll down for content)




















 I missed one, but I'm going to quibble about it. :-)

 33)   If taxes equal government spending, then:
 A. government debt is zero
 B. printing money no longer causes inflation
 C. government is not helping anybody
 D. tax per person equals government spending per person
 E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

 The quiz says that D is the correct answer, but
 it is only if you assume that what they are talking
 about is that the *average* tax per person equals
 the *average* government spending per person.

 Obviously, neither is true if you do not throw the
 word average in there. So I went for A, which isn't
 literally true either, because they could have debt
 from previous years, but I thought it was better
 than D, which was worded even more sloppily.

 I was WAY surprised I did as well as I did, and have
 to admit to guessing based on this makes the most
 sense rather than actually knowing the answer. Fun.


I went for A too. Call me over idealistic... then again it took
me an awful long time to understand the difference between
'TMO Truth' and honest information. :/


JohnY








[FairfieldLife] Spiders on

2008-11-22 Thread raunchydog
http://tinyurl.com/6bc6ow



[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
  no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
  snip
 Hillary's people carefully leaked it.

Wow. Now Tom's lying too.

Somebody explain it to me: Why do we tolerate liars
on this forum, again?
   
   because most of us don't care? 
  
  Well, obviously. The question is, why not?
  
  if we didn't tolerate lying, or just 
   making stuff up, B would have been gone long ago. as it is he 
is 
 a 
   colorful member of the forum.
  
  Along with several others who make lying a habit.
  
   what's the big deal? this isn't some 
   media like blog. its a place to post anything.
  
  The very first sentence of the group's description on
  the home page is:
  
  Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers
  (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. 
  
  One would think that deliberate falsehoods were not
  encompassed by that description.
  
  The other problem is the hypocrisy. People here are
  oh-so-quick to accuse TMO folks of lying. They also
  are outraged at the apparent lies of public figures
  of all sorts. Hillary was widely pilloried here for
  her story about being under sniper fire in Tusla,
  just for one example.
  
  Why are we intolerant of the lies of people outside
  FFL but perfectly fine with the lies of those within
  it? Why do we not tolerate lying from important 
  public figures, but don't see anything wrong with
  lying by our associates?
  
  Why the double standard?
 
 it seems to be in respective interpretations of the FFL group 
 description:
 
 Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and 
 finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. 
 
 for me, if someone is just deliberately distorting
 stuff or even making it up out of their desire to
 get a rise out of others, i am not really
 interested in that

That isn't why Barry does it. That's his *excuse*
for doing it, but it's transparently false. He
does it in the hope that other people will believe
what he says.

; it isn't a topic of interest for me. 
 rather than take the person to task for it, i just
 move on.

I don't think that's an ethical approach.

Do you not recall a few days ago, when Barry
was spewing his fantasies about you, you got
pretty bent out of shape? And when I stood up
for you, you thanked me.

 with regard to a double standard on lies from
 public figures vs those here, it is all in the
 ramifications of the lies. if someone on this
 forum lies or distorts stuff, what is the
 result? nothing, really.

I think this is a bogus excuse for laissez-faire
laziness.

We should hold everyone to the same standard. If
our standards are lax where our associates are
concerned, we aren't going to be likely to be
able to accurately evaluate the truthfulness of
public figures. We may find that we employ lower
standards for public figures we're predisposed
to like, and come down unreasonably hard on those
we don't like.

Double standards perpetuate and reinforce 
unfairness, in other words.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 I missed one, but I'm going to quibble about it. :-)
 
 33)   If taxes equal government spending, then:
 A. government debt is zero
 B. printing money no longer causes inflation
 C. government is not helping anybody
 D. tax per person equals government spending per person
 E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent
 
 The quiz says that D is the correct answer, but
 it is only if you assume that what they are talking
 about is that the *average* tax per person equals
 the *average* government spending per person. 

Actually, that's the only assumption that makes any
sense at all.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
Three quick additional points:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
snip
   Why are we intolerant of the lies of people outside
   FFL but perfectly fine with the lies of those within
   it? Why do we not tolerate lying from important 
   public figures, but don't see anything wrong with
   lying by our associates?
   
   Why the double standard?
  
  it seems to be in respective interpretations of the FFL group 
  description:
  
  Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and 
  finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. 
  
  for me, if someone is just deliberately distorting
  stuff or even making it up out of their desire to
  get a rise out of others, i am not really
  interested in that
 
 That isn't why Barry does it. That's his *excuse*
 for doing it, but it's transparently false. He
 does it in the hope that other people will believe
 what he says.

Willytex is an example of someone who *does*
do this. He's a classic troll. But more people
tend to engage him about his lies than they do
Barry about his.

 ; it isn't a topic of interest for me. 
  rather than take the person to task for it, i just
  move on.
 
 I don't think that's an ethical approach.
 
 Do you not recall a few days ago, when Barry
 was spewing his fantasies about you, you got
 pretty bent out of shape? And when I stood up
 for you, you thanked me.
 
  with regard to a double standard on lies from
  public figures vs those here, it is all in the
  ramifications of the lies. if someone on this
  forum lies or distorts stuff, what is the
  result? nothing, really.
 
 I think this is a bogus excuse for laissez-faire
 laziness.
 
 We should hold everyone to the same standard. If
 our standards are lax where our associates are
 concerned,

I should add, especially those associates who
lie blatantly and habitually.

 we aren't going to be likely to be
 able to accurately evaluate the truthfulness of
 public figures. We may find that we employ lower
 standards for public figures we're predisposed
 to like, and come down unreasonably hard on those
 we don't like.

With regard to our associates who lie, we see this
dynamic clearly in the dichotomy I mentioned above
between how people respond to Willytex, who is a
right-winger, and to Barry, who's distinctly a
leftie. Barry gets a pass because most of us here
lean left.



 Double standards perpetuate and reinforce 
 unfairness, in other words.





[FairfieldLife] Spectacular photographs of ships battling treacherous seas

2008-11-22 Thread do.rflex


Can you detect the US Coast Guard ship overwhelmed by that
leviathan-sized, rogue wave?

See photo: http://tinyurl.com/6ot8db

Note: No one was hurt or killed in that incident, and the boat made it
through. See more photos of that incident [in the third part] and
dozens of other incidents with enormous mega-tankers, cargo ships and
ocean liners including a few amazing video clips. 

Click for the first of three 3-parts:
http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/01/ships-battling-heavy-seas.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Spectacular photographs of ships battling treacherous seas

2008-11-22 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Can you detect the US Coast Guard ship overwhelmed by that
 leviathan-sized, rogue wave?
 
 See photo: http://tinyurl.com/6ot8db


Apparently there was a glitch. You can see the above photo here:
http://agonist.org/canuck/20081121/photographps_of_ships_battling_with_heavy_seas

http://tinyurl.com/5dq79v



 
 Note: No one was hurt or killed in that incident, and the boat made it
 through. See more photos of that incident [in the third part] and
 dozens of other incidents with enormous mega-tankers, cargo ships and
 ocean liners including a few amazing video clips. 
 
 Click for the first of three 3-parts:
 http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/01/ships-battling-heavy-seas.html





[FairfieldLife] Re: A couple of questions about YF

2008-11-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 1. How can doing one session (a couple of minutes) of
  YF seemingly cure a disorder that appeared as a 
 sharp and burning but fortunately only momentary pain
 in my left shoulder after stretching my arms, especially 
 upwards, like for instance for doing chin-ups?
 That had lasted several months. The main reason might
 have been practicing boogie woogie almost every day after
 buying a digi-piano last January.

I think if you are practicing an aggressively physical music style
like boogie woogie piano you have to exercise your arms and shoulders
regularly with weights.  That is true of the acoustic guitar style
that I play.  The guys who started these early blues styles often
worked manual labor jobs so they came to the keys or strings very very
strong.  It is one reason that so many performers miss their tone on
acoustic instruments, they don't have relaxed power because they are
too physically weak.

 
 2. Why does YF sometimes seem to make one needlessly
 horny, so much so that it's for instance, this time, a bit hard to
 concentrate on reading and studying Brahma-suutras,

This is the natural tendency of life to go to fields of greater
pleasure telling you that reading old scriptures is very boring. 
There is no needless horniness.  It is a sign that you are alive in
this wonderful world.  The day you lose your ability to feel horny is
when you should worry.  The teaching that our body's desires are a
distraction to what is important is one of the most destructive so
called spiritual teachings I have come across.  (Oh my, that was an
unfortunate choice of words wasn't it?)





 which
 I've, as a rather slow reader because of a mild visual defect,
 been doing for a couple of days now, although someone with
 a fairly normal vision would read and study them through
 in a couple of hours, because there are only some 500 of them
 and most of them consist of only a couple of words, although
 the translations usually are remarkably longer to make
 them suutras at least somewhat understandable?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
--Judy wrote: 
 Willytex is an example of someone who *does*
 do this. He's a classic troll. But more people
 tend to engage him about his lies than they do
 Barry about his.
 
Stop the lying, Judy, you know perfectly well
that I have not posted any lies to this forum.
Point out a single 'lie' that I've posted or
keep your pie hole shut. 



[FairfieldLife] Red Raiders Matchup

2008-11-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
A huge matchup with possible national title 
implications takes place in Norman this weekend, 
as the second-ranked Texas Tech Red Raiders 
attempt to remain perfect on the season when 
they take on the fifth-ranked Oklahoma Sooners.

Read more:

'The Sports Network'
By Scott Haynes
http://tinyurl.com/5mns49



[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What interests me in a woman over her mid-forties
 is how well she wears it, and how comfortable 
 she is with her real age. I would imagine that 
 it's the same thing women find attractive (or 
 unattractive) in older men.
 
 It's a great *gift* to no longer be able to rely
 on your looks. It forces you to rely on deeper
 things, and to develop them.

Since no one else seems to have considered this 
subject interesting, and I do, I'll follow up 
on it myself. :-)

Since my taste in women is often a subject of
prurient interest here, I thought I'd share with 
you my recollections of one of the 5 or 6 most
beautiful women I've ever met. The recollection
is spurred by finding a Steichen photograph of
her as a young mother, breast-feeding her child,
in a book called Family Of Man. I cut it out
of the book and had it framed and am taking it
tonight to my best friend, who introduced me to
the woman in the photograph 17 years ago. I think
it will please her, because she is about to have
her own first child.

The beautiful woman's name was Tasha Tudor. My
friend, who I had only recently met but with whom
I was already smitten, was staying for a time in
Tasha's house in Vermont, and invited me to come
up to visit her. When I did, and when I wandered
into the world of Tasha's hand-built house, and
her famous and hand-maintained gardens, and her
Corgis, I knew at first sight that I had met one
of the most beautiful women in the world. 

Tasha was 76 at the time. She died in June, at 92.
Here's a bio of her, and a link to a tribute site
that has some photos of her, her house, and her
pretty much as she appeared when I met her:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasha_tudor

http://blueberrycottage.blogspot.com/2008/06/farewell-to-tasha-tudor.html

Tasha called herself, proudly, an old woman. She
*delighted* in being an old woman. She lived alone,
with the exception of her chickens and her goats
and her Corgis, most of the time, and living alone
had worn well on her. I remember at the time I met
her thinking, I don't think I have ever in my entire
life met anyone more comfortable in their own skin
than this woman. By that time I had met Maharishi
and Rama - Frederick Lenz and a number of other 
spiritual teachers. Since then I have met other
spiritual teachers. I stand on my first impression.

Tasha was active, she was mentally sharp as a tack
(don't think for a moment that I didn't have to endure
a bit of that sharp-as-a-tack mind since I was at her
house to court a young woman she felt protective of,
and who was twenty years younger than I was), and just
an utter delight. She wore every moment of her extra-
ordinary life in the lines on her face, and in her
bearing, and especially in her laugh. I guess I 
passed muster as a suitor, because after a few
minutes' grilling and seeing how I handled being
handed a pail and being sent to milk the goats, she
warmed to me considerably. (I had never extracted 
milk from anything in my life more complicated than 
a milk carton; I can only imagine that she was highly 
amused watching me give it my best shot.)

She was outspoken, she was outrageous, but most she
was grace personified. Watching her move about her
house and gardens was like watching a goddess dance.
She personifies for me someone who was comfortable
with her real age. I can only hope to be as comfort-
able with my own if I ever reach her age. If I do,
and with a similar level of comfort, a lot of it will 
be due to having had a remarkable role model to set 
the bar for me.

When I think of Tasha I almost always think of an
early Bruce Cockburn song, written about his mother-
in-law. I think it describes the kind of beauty I'm 
talking about better than I can:

She is passing in a warm breeze
Bars of light that cross the floor
One smoke-gray, curled, tiny feather
Skips aside

By her middle hang the keys
Made to open any door
Even the one that lets in the cold wind
From outside

She lives in a house of colour
Guarded by cats three in number
And one great dog of gentle manner
In among the trees

Silence
Carries
No apprehension here
In the warm sun
By the window sill
I can just sit still
And watch her go by...

Queen of field and forest pathway
Understands the speech of stones
She weaves peace upon her loom
Life's mistress 

- Bruce Cockburn, 1969





[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
   no_reply@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ 
wrote:
   snip
  Hillary's people carefully leaked it.
 
 Wow. Now Tom's lying too.
 
 Somebody explain it to me: Why do we tolerate liars
 on this forum, again?

because most of us don't care? 
   
   Well, obviously. The question is, why not?
   
   if we didn't tolerate lying, or just 
making stuff up, B would have been gone long ago. as it is 
he 
 is 
  a 
colorful member of the forum.
   
   Along with several others who make lying a habit.
   
what's the big deal? this isn't some 
media like blog. its a place to post anything.
   
   The very first sentence of the group's description on
   the home page is:
   
   Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers
   (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. 
   
   One would think that deliberate falsehoods were not
   encompassed by that description.
   
   The other problem is the hypocrisy. People here are
   oh-so-quick to accuse TMO folks of lying. They also
   are outraged at the apparent lies of public figures
   of all sorts. Hillary was widely pilloried here for
   her story about being under sniper fire in Tusla,
   just for one example.
   
   Why are we intolerant of the lies of people outside
   FFL but perfectly fine with the lies of those within
   it? Why do we not tolerate lying from important 
   public figures, but don't see anything wrong with
   lying by our associates?
   
   Why the double standard?
  
  it seems to be in respective interpretations of the FFL group 
  description:
  
  Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and 
  finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. 
  
  for me, if someone is just deliberately distorting
  stuff or even making it up out of their desire to
  get a rise out of others, i am not really
  interested in that
 
 That isn't why Barry does it. That's his *excuse*
 for doing it, but it's transparently false. He
 does it in the hope that other people will believe
 what he says.

who cares? he's a poster in a chat room- doesn't influence my life 
at all.
 
 ; it isn't a topic of interest for me. 
  rather than take the person to task for it, i just
  move on.
 
 I don't think that's an ethical approach.

fine.
 
 Do you not recall a few days ago, when Barry
 was spewing his fantasies about you, you got
 pretty bent out of shape? And when I stood up
 for you, you thanked me.

no i didn't get pretty bent out of shape. i responded to B. and then 
let it go. i appreciated you saying what you did, but if you hadn't 
i wasn't going to pursue it further. 

i think B. is a lot more important to you than he is to anyone else 
here. he's just a guy who writes stuff. who cares what his motives 
might be? he only has the power to influence you if you grant him 
that power. i don't. and maybe you ought to consider that option 
too, especially in light of your opinions about him.
 
  with regard to a double standard on lies from
  public figures vs those here, it is all in the
  ramifications of the lies. if someone on this
  forum lies or distorts stuff, what is the
  result? nothing, really.
 
 I think this is a bogus excuse for laissez-faire
 laziness.

i am ok with being lazy in this regard. laziness like forgetting can 
be a virtue.
 
 We should hold everyone to the same standard. If
 our standards are lax where our associates are
 concerned, we aren't going to be likely to be
 able to accurately evaluate the truthfulness of
 public figures. We may find that we employ lower
 standards for public figures we're predisposed
 to like, and come down unreasonably hard on those
 we don't like.
 
 Double standards perpetuate and reinforce 
 unfairness, in other words.

its not a matter of holding everyone to the same standard. its 
priorities. in my life i don't place a high priority on what someone 
says here when i think they are just blowing smoke. they are free to 
do it and i am free to ignore them. like i said originally, who 
cares?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Nov 22, 2008, at 11:41 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

The beautiful woman's name was Tasha Tudor.


Loved her stuff as a kid!  Still do.


My friend, who I had only recently met but with whom
I was already smitten, was staying for a time in
Tasha's house in Vermont, and invited me to come
up to visit her. When I did, and when I wandered
into the world of Tasha's hand-built house, and
her famous and hand-maintained gardens, and her
Corgis, I knew at first sight that I had met one
of the most beautiful women in the world.

Tasha was 76 at the time. She died in June, at 92.
Here's a bio of her, and a link to a tribute site
that has some photos of her, her house, and her
pretty much as she appeared when I met her:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasha_tudor

http://blueberrycottage.blogspot.com/2008/06/farewell-to-tasha-tudor.html

Tasha called herself, proudly, an old woman. She
*delighted* in being an old woman. She lived alone,
with the exception of her chickens and her goats
and her Corgis, most of the time, and living alone
had worn well on her. I remember at the time I met
her thinking, I don't think I have ever in my entire
life met anyone more comfortable in their own skin
than this woman. By that time I had met Maharishi
and Rama - Frederick Lenz and a number of other
spiritual teachers. Since then I have met other
spiritual teachers. I stand on my first impression.

Tasha was active, she was mentally sharp as a tack
(don't think for a moment that I didn't have to endure
a bit of that sharp-as-a-tack mind since I was at her
house to court a young woman she felt protective of,
and who was twenty years younger than I was), and just
an utter delight. She wore every moment of her extra-
ordinary life in the lines on her face, and in her
bearing, and especially in her laugh. I guess I
passed muster as a suitor, because after a few
minutes' grilling and seeing how I handled being
handed a pail and being sent to milk the goats, she
warmed to me considerably. (I had never extracted
milk from anything in my life more complicated than
a milk carton; I can only imagine that she was highly
amused watching me give it my best shot.)

She was outspoken, she was outrageous, but most she
was grace personified. Watching her move about her
house and gardens was like watching a goddess dance.
She personifies for me someone who was comfortable
with her real age. I can only hope to be as comfort-
able with my own if I ever reach her age. If I do,
and with a similar level of comfort, a lot of it will
be due to having had a remarkable role model to set
the bar for me.

When I think of Tasha I almost always think of an
early Bruce Cockburn song, written about his mother-
in-law. I think it describes the kind of beauty I'm
talking about better than I can:

She is passing in a warm breeze
Bars of light that cross the floor
One smoke-gray, curled, tiny feather
Skips aside


And 10 minutes after he wrote those lines, he
went out and got smashed at the thought of
having to interact with her again.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
Turq you are SUCH a misogynist, it is obvious!  Thanks for sharing a
glimpse of such a charming human.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  What interests me in a woman over her mid-forties
  is how well she wears it, and how comfortable 
  she is with her real age. I would imagine that 
  it's the same thing women find attractive (or 
  unattractive) in older men.
  
  It's a great *gift* to no longer be able to rely
  on your looks. It forces you to rely on deeper
  things, and to develop them.
 
 Since no one else seems to have considered this 
 subject interesting, and I do, I'll follow up 
 on it myself. :-)
 
 Since my taste in women is often a subject of
 prurient interest here, I thought I'd share with 
 you my recollections of one of the 5 or 6 most
 beautiful women I've ever met. The recollection
 is spurred by finding a Steichen photograph of
 her as a young mother, breast-feeding her child,
 in a book called Family Of Man. I cut it out
 of the book and had it framed and am taking it
 tonight to my best friend, who introduced me to
 the woman in the photograph 17 years ago. I think
 it will please her, because she is about to have
 her own first child.
 
 The beautiful woman's name was Tasha Tudor. My
 friend, who I had only recently met but with whom
 I was already smitten, was staying for a time in
 Tasha's house in Vermont, and invited me to come
 up to visit her. When I did, and when I wandered
 into the world of Tasha's hand-built house, and
 her famous and hand-maintained gardens, and her
 Corgis, I knew at first sight that I had met one
 of the most beautiful women in the world. 
 
 Tasha was 76 at the time. She died in June, at 92.
 Here's a bio of her, and a link to a tribute site
 that has some photos of her, her house, and her
 pretty much as she appeared when I met her:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasha_tudor
 

http://blueberrycottage.blogspot.com/2008/06/farewell-to-tasha-tudor.html
 
 Tasha called herself, proudly, an old woman. She
 *delighted* in being an old woman. She lived alone,
 with the exception of her chickens and her goats
 and her Corgis, most of the time, and living alone
 had worn well on her. I remember at the time I met
 her thinking, I don't think I have ever in my entire
 life met anyone more comfortable in their own skin
 than this woman. By that time I had met Maharishi
 and Rama - Frederick Lenz and a number of other 
 spiritual teachers. Since then I have met other
 spiritual teachers. I stand on my first impression.
 
 Tasha was active, she was mentally sharp as a tack
 (don't think for a moment that I didn't have to endure
 a bit of that sharp-as-a-tack mind since I was at her
 house to court a young woman she felt protective of,
 and who was twenty years younger than I was), and just
 an utter delight. She wore every moment of her extra-
 ordinary life in the lines on her face, and in her
 bearing, and especially in her laugh. I guess I 
 passed muster as a suitor, because after a few
 minutes' grilling and seeing how I handled being
 handed a pail and being sent to milk the goats, she
 warmed to me considerably. (I had never extracted 
 milk from anything in my life more complicated than 
 a milk carton; I can only imagine that she was highly 
 amused watching me give it my best shot.)
 
 She was outspoken, she was outrageous, but most she
 was grace personified. Watching her move about her
 house and gardens was like watching a goddess dance.
 She personifies for me someone who was comfortable
 with her real age. I can only hope to be as comfort-
 able with my own if I ever reach her age. If I do,
 and with a similar level of comfort, a lot of it will 
 be due to having had a remarkable role model to set 
 the bar for me.
 
 When I think of Tasha I almost always think of an
 early Bruce Cockburn song, written about his mother-
 in-law. I think it describes the kind of beauty I'm 
 talking about better than I can:
 
 She is passing in a warm breeze
 Bars of light that cross the floor
 One smoke-gray, curled, tiny feather
 Skips aside
 
 By her middle hang the keys
 Made to open any door
 Even the one that lets in the cold wind
 From outside
 
 She lives in a house of colour
 Guarded by cats three in number
 And one great dog of gentle manner
 In among the trees
 
 Silence
 Carries
 No apprehension here
 In the warm sun
 By the window sill
 I can just sit still
 And watch her go by...
 
 Queen of field and forest pathway
 Understands the speech of stones
 She weaves peace upon her loom
 Life's mistress 
 
 - Bruce Cockburn, 1969





[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Nov 22, 2008, at 11:41 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  
  When I think of Tasha I almost always think of an
  early Bruce Cockburn song, written about his mother-
  in-law. I think it describes the kind of beauty I'm
  talking about better than I can:
 
  She is passing in a warm breeze
  Bars of light that cross the floor
  One smoke-gray, curled, tiny feather
  Skips aside
 
 And 10 minutes after he wrote those lines, he
 went out and got smashed at the thought of
 having to interact with her again.

Somehow I doubt it. :-) His marriage did
not last (and the pain of its breakup led
to one of his best albums, Humans), but
the way he tells it, his friendship with
his ex's mother-in-law continued. Then 
again, he's a man, so you by definition
can't believe a word he says, right?  :-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:00 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 And 10 minutes after he wrote those lines, he
 went out and got smashed at the thought of
 having to interact with her again.

 Somehow I doubt it. :-) His marriage did
 not last (and the pain of its breakup led
 to one of his best albums, Humans), but
 the way he tells it, his friendship with
 his ex's mother-in-law continued. Then
 again, he's a man, so you by definition
 can't believe a word he says, right?  :-)

Actually, Barry, your many rants--all full of lies,
of course--have gotten me interested in BC,
so I've started checking out some of his stuff.
Have you heard his all-acoustic guitar album?
(Silly question, I know.)  Wow.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:00 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
And 10 minutes after he wrote those lines, he
went out and got smashed at the thought of
having to interact with her again.
  
   Somehow I doubt it. :-) His marriage did
   not last (and the pain of its breakup led
   to one of his best albums, Humans), but
   the way he tells it, his friendship with
   his ex's mother-in-law continued. Then
   again, he's a man, so you by definition
   can't believe a word he says, right?  :-)
 
 Actually, Barry, your many rants--all full of lies,
 of course--have gotten me interested in BC,
 so I've started checking out some of his stuff.
 Have you heard his all-acoustic guitar album?
 (Silly question, I know.)  Wow.

Duh. I am a fan in the sense of the word
from which that contraction was extracted,
fanatic. I own pretty much everything
Bruce has ever recorded, and an equal num-
ber of bootlegs.

Speechless, the album you refer to, is
truly lovely. The songs on it were recorded
at *very* different times and in *very*
different states of attention, but Bruce
somehow found a way to sequence them in such
a way that the whole album plays seamlessly
and without a single jarring moment. Speak-
ing from experience, it is one of the best
albums I've ever found to play as dinner
music, because somehow it always provokes
just the *best* conversations.

For the Bruce fanatic, there are even a few
new instrumentals on the album, the best 
being a gem called End Of All Rivers. I
could listen to that song on a loop for hours.
Actually, I have, while writing a story once.

Bruce is one of those multi-tasking artists.
You either like his voice or you don't, but
few can deny the excellence of his songwriting.
But it's his guitar skills that often go with-
out sufficient notice. This album helps to 
correct that, on the softer, acoustic side.
To hear how Bruce can wail on his electric
guitars, you pretty much have to go to live
bootlegs; very few moments of how good he is
have ever made it onto his albums. 

How good a guitarist is he? Well, one time I
saw him perform live in Boston, a guest per-
former in the set was a fellow graduate of
the Berkeley School Of Music there, Gary
Burton. Gary is a quiet performer, like Bruce,
and rarely says anything much onstage; he pre-
fers to say what he has to say in music. But
this evening he insisted on saying something
before they launched into a kickin' version 
of Mistress Of Storms. He said, I just want
those of you who don't know how lucky you are
to be here tonight that I'm privileged to be
playing with one of the best guitarists I've
ever met. Do a search on Gary Burton and some
of the greats of jazz guitar he has played with
to get a feel for his statement.

Mistress Of Storms is on the album Speechless,
with Gary Burton on it. So are some of the following 
cuts from YouTube, to give you a taste:

Deer Dancing Around A Broken Mirror:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyk9AT6f_tE

Jammin' with Ali Farke Toure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK64qc-Mbts

Down To The Delta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Uj4CTiHQI

Jerusalem Poker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX6A80bVolI

A discussion of Bruce as guitarist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK64qc-Mbts

End Of All Rivers (live(:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcHviL77kBc





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:43 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 Bruce is one of those multi-tasking artists.
 You either like his voice or you don't, but
 few can deny the excellence of his songwriting.

Yep--pretty amazing.

 But it's his guitar skills that often go with-
 out sufficient notice. This album helps to
 correct that, on the softer, acoustic side.
 To hear how Bruce can wail on his electric
 guitars, you pretty much have to go to live
 bootlegs; very few moments of how good he is
 have ever made it onto his albums.

I'm pretty much of an acoustic guitar freak,
so Speechless is perfect.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

snip
 i think B. is a lot more important to you than he is to
 anyone else here. he's just a guy who writes stuff. who
 cares what his motives might be? he only has the power
 to influence you if you grant him that power. i don't.
 and maybe you ought to consider that option too,
 especially in light of your opinions about him.

Uh, he doesn't influence me at all. I think
you've missed my point completely. It's about
social responsibility, which you don't seem to
want to have anything to do with. Never mind.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Turq you are SUCH a misogynist, it is obvious!

You really think what Barry wrote about Tasha
Tudor exonerates him from the charge of misogyny??




[FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin, Has-Been

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
Oprah, Leno, Letterman: What's Palin to do next?

By MICHAEL R. BLOOD
Associated Press Writer 
Sat Nov 22, 10:07 am ET
 
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin is juggling offers
to write books, appear in films and sit on dozens
of interview couches at a rate astonishing for most 
Hollywood stars, let alone a first-term governor.

Oprah wants her. So do Letterman and Leno.

The failed Republican vice presidential candidate 
crunched state budget numbers this past week in 
her 17th-floor office as tumbling oil prices hit 
Alaska's revenues. Her staff, meanwhile, fielded 
television requests seeking the 44-year-old Palin 
for late-night banter and Sunday morning 
Washington policy.

Agents from the William Morris Agency and elsewhere, 
have come knocking. There even has been an offer to 
host a TV show.

Tomorrow, Governor Palin could do an interview with 
any news media on the planet, said her spokesman, 
Bill McAllister. Tomorrow, she could probably sign 
any one of a dozen book deals. She could start talking 
to people about a documentary or a movie on her life. 
That's the level we are at here.

Barbara Walters called me. George Stephanopoulos 
called me, McAllister said. I've had multiple 
conversations with producers for Oprah, Letterman, 
Leno and 'The Daily Show.'

Asked whether Winfrey was pursuing Palin for a sit-
down, Michelle McIntyre, a spokeswoman for Winfrey's 
Chicago-based Harpo Productions Inc., said she was 
unable to confirm any future plans for the show.

Palin may have emerged from the campaign politically 
wounded, with questions about her preparedness for 
higher office and reports of an expensive wardrobe. 
But she has returned to Alaska with an expanded, if 
unofficial, title — international celebrity.

John McCain plucked Palin out of relative obscurity 
in late August and put her on the national GOP ticket. 
Now, she has to decide how and where to spend her 
time, which could have implications for her political 
future and her bank account, with possible land mines 
of legal and ethical rules.

Palin is considering about 800 requests for 
appearances from December through 2009, with 75 
percent coming from out of state. A year ago, just a 
sprinkle of requests came from beyond Alaska's 
borders. They range from invitations to speak at The 
Chief Executives' Club of Boston to attend a 5-year-
old's birthday party, from a prayer breakfast in 
Cedar Rapids, Iowa, to a business conference in 
Britain.

Michael Steele, the former Maryland lieutenant 
governor who wants to be the next chairman of the 
Republican National Committee, is seeking face time.

She has invitations to make appearances in 20 
foreign countries, typically with all expenses paid, 
McAllister said. She has more than 200 requests for 
media interviews, again from around the globe.

She has to pace herself, suggested veteran 
Hollywood publicist Howard Bragman. She wants a 
career made in a Crock-Pot, not a microwave.

Read more:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081122/ap_en_ot/palin_s_popularity

http://tinyurl.com/5gq6x6




[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
 snip
  i think B. is a lot more important to you than he is to
  anyone else here. he's just a guy who writes stuff. who
  cares what his motives might be? he only has the power
  to influence you if you grant him that power. i don't.
  and maybe you ought to consider that option too,
  especially in light of your opinions about him.
 
 Uh, he doesn't influence me at all. I think
 you've missed my point completely. It's about
 social responsibility, which you don't seem to
 want to have anything to do with. Never mind.

ok, but let me ask you this- do you think one word of what you have 
written has changed the thinking of, or the life outlook of your 
nemesis, B, here? in my opinion that has never happened, and will 
never happen. if you haven't noticed, B. is very much ossified, and 
happy to be.

as far as i can tell, both you and B are locked into this bizarre 
rivalry, trying to influenece others who may or may not read anything 
either of you say. 

although you have some good things to say sometimes, as does B., both 
of you have built these elaboarate fantasies in your respective minds 
that you are somehow widely read and followed by a large audience 
here, and it is incumbent upon each of you to prove the other wrong 
(you towards B), or less of a human (B towards you) in the minds of 
this fictitious audience. in this particular way, imo both of you are 
delusional and certifiably nuts :).

however it is something both of you feel a need to work through, or 
just enjoy, so by all means have at it.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Inspiring Up-date on India's Success in TM for Education--Up-date #1

2008-11-22 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alarik is such a bright guy. He has a unique way of thinking. He makes
these lateral intellectual moves that are so unexpected and such a
delight. One of the brighter gems in the MIU/MUM/MERU faculty. I think
he's from another planet! ;-)

 --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Inspiring Up-date on India's Success in TM
for Education--Up-date #1
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 12:53 PM


 From: David Orme-Johnson
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:40 AM

 To: 'David Orme-Johnson'

 Subject: Inspiring Up-date on India's Success in TM for
 Education--Up-date #1

 Dear
 Friends and Family, here is some very inspiring news about rising
coherence in
 collective consciousness from Alarik and Cynthia Arenander.


 All
 the best,

 David

 Maharishi Vedic India
 Education Project


 Maharishi Vidya
 Mandirs

 The largest Chain of
 Privately Owned Public Schools in India


 Over 90,000 Students
 in 143 Branches in 118 Cities
 Quote from Maharishi on Education:


 If the age is to rise to invincibility, a fundamental value has
 to be supplied to the field of education: Knowledge of pure
consciousness and
 how to experience it.

 Dear Friends,

 We are so happy you are interested in getting up-dates on what is
 happening in India.

 During our tour in September and October, we came to the
 realization that India is the key to establishing collective
 coherence for the whole world.

 With that said-- We have made our goal:


 100,000 Indian Students to Learn Maharishi's Transcendental
 Meditation
 On Wednesday, November 19th: It
 was confirmed that a public school in India with over 1000 students,
 faculty and staff will begin the practice of Maharishi's
Transcendental
 Meditation on December 1st.

 Can you imagine the momentum that will be gained when 1000
 students start TM in just a few days and meditate together?

 The heart warming story of how this all came together is so
 inspiring that when a dear friend heard about it said--We have to
make
 this into a video to put onto You Tube so everyone's heart can over
flow!

 On Thursday, November 20th: An
 anonymous angel  raised $2500 from about 6 wonderful
 donors so that a whole school of 500 students and 30 faculty from
lower income
 families could learn Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation.


 These donors really loved the fact that they could give $100 to
 $250 and for that donation, they were responsible for 50 or more
students to
 begin Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation.


It even sounds competitively priced at $4.72 / initiation .


JohnY






[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Rick Archer wrote:
  ...and the 51 may have been a Yahoo glitch.
 
 So, Rick, there may be a Yahoo 'glitch'? This
 doesn't even make any sense.


Go easy on Rick here WillieTex.

He prolly just wants to avoid She Who
Received A Death Threat On FFL from 
throwing another hissy fit.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Turq you are SUCH a misogynist, it is obvious!
 
 You really think what Barry wrote about Tasha
 Tudor exonerates him from the charge of misogyny??

From you and Raunchy?  No.  But then I don't believe that there could
be any counter evidence to your view that you would accept.  This
detailed appreciation for women is what I have seen in all of Barry's
posts about women with a few exceptions, the ones directed towards you
Raunchy and Hillary...  there may be a few more.  So for me, when
Barry expresses his hatred for certain specific women, it does not
generalize to all women inductively.  Especially when he often waxes
poetically in all the ways that he appreciates and loves other women. 

I believe there are some posters here who do hate women as a group,
most are fans of the woman hating Shankara. But for me, Barry is not
one of them.

Applying the term to Barry is an overgeneralization IMO, based on a
personal hatred of him but which does not lead me to conclude that the
 people who apply it to Barry hate ALL men.








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player

2008-11-22 Thread Bhairitu
You livee in a McMansion?  52 is fine for my living room.  My house is 
a small 4 bedroom (built in 1962) almost like a large apartment.  It was 
passed up by couples looking to by because it was too small in the first 
few hours it went back on the market when I bought it.   I would 
probably want a refund or a coupon for another showing if I ever went to 
the local theater and the only seats available were in the lower tier.  
In some of the auditoriums I sit at the last row and the screen still 
fills my field of vision.  Some people must be into neck exercises.

I don't buy home theater gear for it's trophy value.  The 52 is about 
6' feet away and fills my field of vision.  Here's a calculator based on 
THX's research for determining what size screen to put in a room:
http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html

More folks than expected are greeting the digital changeover in February 
by buying new sets if they get TV by antenna than just getting the 
converter boxes.  One thing folks doing that need to remember if they 
are replacing a set like a 27 (people not into home theater) then they 
need one 1 1/4 times that 27 to at least have the same height of image 
as they had on the
27.   Since there is no 34 sets they would need a 37 and a 32 would 
actually be a little shorter and they may actually notice that (or that 
something is wrong).

gullible fool wrote:
  
 73 is too small. Get a front projector and a 92 to 110 diagonal screen. Or 
 go with a high gain screen and you can go even larger, like with a 133 or 
 159 diagonal Da-lite High power screen. If you can fit it, that is.  


 Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
 love. 
  
 - Amma  

 --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 10:46 PM

 Alex Stanley wrote:
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 Rick Archer wrote:
 
   
 What does DLP stand for?
   
 
 Digital Light Processing:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLP

 DLP sets aren't as popular anymore as the LCD sets seem to be
 taking over.  They are rear projection and may have more artifacts
 than LCDs. The bulb can be expensive to replace.  So there are
 blowout sales on DLP sets at stores.  DLP is being used
   
 for 
   
 digital projectors including the ones at my local theater.
 
   
 DLP's niche is humongous screen size. For the price of a 52 LCD
 
 flat
   
 screen, you can get a 73 rear projection DLP. Sony's new
 
 70 LCD flat
   
 screen, by comparison, will set you back almost twenty grand.
 
 In fact most of the online retailers don't show anything other than
 61+ 
 sets.  I know Fry's in store has more than those.  Best Buy does show a 
 56 Samsung DLP for $999.  Tempting. 

 The Mitsubishi LaserVue sets are now the hot item but pricey:
 http://laservuetv.com/




 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player

2008-11-22 Thread Bhairitu
bob_brigante wrote:-
 NYT's tech guy has a simple guide to TV:

 http://tinyurl.com/66dqea
A little wrong on the 1080p stuff.  You can't make an LCD panel that is 
interlaced so all the 1080 line panels are progressive.   So there is no 
money anymore to be saved.  I don't even think you can find a DLP 
anymore that is displaying 1080i (if they ever could).  There is no 
broadcast standard for it but even some inexpensive upscaling DVD 
players support it.   How good the frame assembly is when converting 
from interlaced to progressive is another matter.  It that is too cheap 
you get mouse teeth on frames during a pan.  You see this effect 
sometimes on YouTube videos which are from HD footage.  You actually 
have to have logic that figures out what is the best way to de-interlace 
the 1080i frame as there are several techniques and you want to use 
different ones for different circumstances.

The reason some of the lower priced bans can be as good as name brands 
is because they didn't have to pay to design the set.  They basically 
are assembling a kit and putting their label on it.  Vizio just caved 
into MPEG-LA as they weren't paying royalties on patents which will 
drive their price up a little.  They actually assemble their sets in the US.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
 
 Mistress Of Storms is on the album Speechless,
 with Gary Burton on it. So are some of the following 
 cuts from YouTube, to give you a taste:
 
 Deer Dancing Around A Broken Mirror:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyk9AT6f_tE
 
 Jammin' with Ali Farke Toure:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK64qc-Mbts
 
 Down To The Delta:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Uj4CTiHQI
 
 Jerusalem Poker:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX6A80bVolI
 
 A discussion of Bruce as guitarist:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK64qc-Mbts
 
 End Of All Rivers (live(:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcHviL77kBc


Damn! That last one is intoxicatingly nice. I can't get the tune out
of my mind.








Re: [FairfieldLife] Checking the price of oil

2008-11-22 Thread Bhairitu
Okay but who was driving the futures price down (not that I understand 
any of the wall street gambling voodoo)?   The person who reported this  
back in June knows the people who do have the money to control the 
prices.  And why was OPEC meeting recently to cut production because 
they think the price is too low.  We can all have our armchair 
theories and when I heard that report back in June I also scoffed.

I don't care about money but it seems everyone else does so I have to 
collect it somehow.


gullible fool wrote:
 Rumor is it'll stay at $50 a barrel for 6 months or a year.  The elite 
 want to bankrupt the Middle East.
  
 Rumor? Crude oil is traded as a futures contract and it is the price on the 
 futures market that determines the price the refineries pay. If anyone had 
 enough foresight to know where the price of crude oil was heading, whether 
 higher, lower, or sideways, he or she would have enough money to satisfy even 
 the greedy TMO.
  
 Hint: No one knows.  

  
 Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
 love. 
  
 - Amma  

   



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread Bhairitu
Tom wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Rick Archer wrote:
 
 ...and the 51 may have been a Yahoo glitch.

   
 So, Rick, there may be a Yahoo 'glitch'? This
 doesn't even make any sense.
 


 Go easy on Rick here WillieTex.

 He prolly just wants to avoid She Who
 Received A Death Threat On FFL from 
 throwing another hissy fit.
I only got a count of 50 for Judy with the program that runs on my 
desktop.  Alex may have received a duplicate email on the account he 
uses.  Yahoo sometime burps and sends duplicates and sometimes does not 
send some emails at all resulting in a lower count.  Then sometimes it 
will send a message out via email that never shows up on the web.  I 
have also found that their searches will sometimes omit messages that 
show up in the normal listing.   I thought I might be able to add some 
code to check for duplicates but the duplicates do have different 
message numbers even if they have the same time code.  Usually the 
variances are only one or two messages and I've always suggested people 
challenge the count if they think it is off a little as there is a log 
generated that is easily checked and can be cross checked against the 
web site.




[FairfieldLife] YouTube - Pranic Healing - Special Assignment

2008-11-22 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahg6Ut1cyhA 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tom wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willytex@ wrote:

  Rick Archer wrote:
  
  ...and the 51 may have been a Yahoo glitch.
 

  So, Rick, there may be a Yahoo 'glitch'? This
  doesn't even make any sense.
  
 
 
  Go easy on Rick here WillieTex.
 
  He prolly just wants to avoid She Who
  Received A Death Threat On FFL from 
  throwing another hissy fit.

 I only got a count of 50 for Judy with the program that runs on
 my desktop.  Alex may have received a duplicate email on the
 account he uses. 

I now get my FFL email feed from a Gmail account, and my post count
was the same as the official post count, which also uses a Gmail
account. I looked at the time/date column for her week's worth of
posts, and I didn't see any pairs posted at the same time.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   Turq you are SUCH a misogynist, it is obvious!
  
  You really think what Barry wrote about Tasha
  Tudor exonerates him from the charge of misogyny??
 
 From you and Raunchy?  No.  But then I don't believe
 that there could be any counter evidence to your view
 that you would accept.

Not after all the evidence he's provided *for* that
charge, no.

  This
 detailed appreciation for women is what I have seen in
 all of Barry's posts about women with a few exceptions,
 the ones directed towards you Raunchy and Hillary...
 there may be a few more.

LOL!!

Yes, there certainly have been a few more.

  So for me, when
 Barry expresses his hatred for certain specific women, it does not
 generalize to all women inductively.

You're stuck in the dictionary definition, as we've
discussed before, interpreting the term narrowly to
mean hatred of all women, such that professed
admiration for certain individual women would render
it inapplicable.

But that isn't how it works. That's how Barry wants
you to *think* it works; that's the motive behind
all his poetic posts about this or that woman or
women.

Dictionary misogynists are rare. That isn't what
women are complaining about. Maybe there should be
another word, but most people these days understand
what it refers to.

Just as you don't have to hate all black people to
be a racist, or all Jews to be anti-Semitic, you
don't have to hate all women to be a misogynist.
Heck, you don't have to hate *any* specific woman
to be a misogynist. That isn't what it's about.

But as I've pointed out before, while admiring some
women doesn't exonerate you from misogyny, what
*defines* you as a misogynist is attacking women you
don't like on the basis of their gender. Same goes
for racism and anti-Semitism: if you attack a black
person on the basis of their race, or a Jew on the
basis of their religion/ethnicity, that *defines*
you as racist or anti-Semitic.

It never occurs to people who aren't inherently 
bigoted to attack someone in such a manner, no matter
how much they dislike the person.

 Especially when he often waxes
 poetically in all the ways that he appreciates and
 loves other women.

Just as an exercise, you might see if you can find a
common element in his descriptions of the women he
claims to appreciate and love.

You might also want to think about the declaration
Some of my best friends are Jews and see if you
can figure out why it's subject to such derision.

(Minor semantic point: it's wax poetic, not wax
poetically. Wax in this sense is roughly synonymous
with become. I see wax used incorrectly all the
time these days, so you aren't alone!)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
snip
  I only got a count of 50 for Judy with the program 
  that runs on my desktop.  Alex may have received a
  duplicate email on the account he uses. 
 
 I now get my FFL email feed from a Gmail account, and
 my post count was the same as the official post count,
 which also uses a Gmail account. I looked at the
 time/date column for her week's worth of posts, and I
 didn't see any pairs posted at the same time.

Alex, Tuesday's post count had me at 48. I made only
two posts after that, but Wednesday's post count had
me at 51. So there's an error somewhere.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
  snip
   i think B. is a lot more important to you than he is to
   anyone else here. he's just a guy who writes stuff. who
   cares what his motives might be? he only has the power
   to influence you if you grant him that power. i don't.
   and maybe you ought to consider that option too,
   especially in light of your opinions about him.
  
  Uh, he doesn't influence me at all. I think
  you've missed my point completely. It's about
  social responsibility, which you don't seem to
  want to have anything to do with. Never mind.
 
 ok, but let me ask you this- do you think one word of
 what you have written has changed the thinking of, or
 the life outlook of your nemesis, B, here?

Nope. It would take a bunch of people indicating on
a regular basis that his lies were unacceptable, and
refusing to interact with him until he stopped telling
them, for him to change, and even then it would only
be his behavior that changed, not his thinking or
life outlook.

If he were ever to change his thinking or life
outlook, it wouldn't be on the basis of what anybody
said to him, but because he had had some kind of
personal epiphany that made him realize what an
appalling phony he was.

We can always hope for that, but in the meantime a
change in his behavior would make this forum a lot
more pleasant.

snip
 although you have some good things to say sometimes, as
 does B., both of you have built these elaboarate
 fantasies in your respective minds that you are somehow
 widely read and followed by a large audience here

I won't speak for Barry (although it's obvious from
his posts that he's a chronic fantasist), but I
certainly have no such fantasy.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Nov 21, 2008, at 3:13 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
 
  I think she will be great, so much stronger than Condi.
  It also speaks well of Obama that he picked a person
  who will challenge him since he disagreed with her
  foreign policy POV in the primaries.  He is already
  doing the opposite of what Bush did (pick a yes women)
  so he must be on track.
 
 I agree.  It will also free up her Senate seat
 for a real Democrat, :)

There is no realer Democrat than Hillary Clinton.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread Bhairitu
Alex Stanley wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Tom wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
   
 willytex@ wrote:
   
   
   
 Rick Archer wrote:
 
 
 ...and the 51 may have been a Yahoo glitch.

   
   
 So, Rick, there may be a Yahoo 'glitch'? This
 doesn't even make any sense.
 
 
 Go easy on Rick here WillieTex.

 He prolly just wants to avoid She Who
 Received A Death Threat On FFL from 
 throwing another hissy fit.
   
 I only got a count of 50 for Judy with the program that runs on
 my desktop.  Alex may have received a duplicate email on the
 account he uses. 
 

 I now get my FFL email feed from a Gmail account, and my post count
 was the same as the official post count, which also uses a Gmail
 account. I looked at the time/date column for her week's worth of
 posts, and I didn't see any pairs posted at the same time.
They don't have to come in at the same time though some do but can be 
minutes apart and in some cases recently days.   And of course in some 
cases maybe if the person was posting using the web site and Yahoo hung 
for a while after they clicked submit and they click submit again Yahoo 
may also post again from the second click.   If they do that I would say 
the second click post gets counted.  IOW, wait a while if it hangs.  
Sometime when I post using a web site and it can be flaky I copy the 
message to a temporarily to text editor in case the post fails.  Then I 
can paste it back in when I try again.




[FairfieldLife] The Obama New Deal: Era of Trickle Down Economics Has Ended

2008-11-22 Thread do.rflex


Obama economic plan aims for 2.5M new jobs by 2011


WASHINGTON – President-elect Barack Obama promoted an economic plan
Saturday he said would create 2.5 million jobs by rebuilding roads and
bridges and modernizing schools while developing alternative energy
sources and more efficient cars.

These aren't just steps to pull ourselves out of this immediate
crisis. These are the long-term investments in our economic future
that have been ignored for far too long, Obama said in the weekly
Democratic radio address.

The goal is to get the plan quickly through Congress, with help from
both parties, after Obama takes office Jan. 20. The plan, which
envisions those new jobs by January 2011, is big enough to meet the
challenges we face, he said. The president-elect said he has asked
his economic advisers to flesh out the recovery plan — one big enough
to meet the challenges we face. ... We'll be working out the details
in the weeks ahead, but it will be a two-year, nationwide effort to
jump-start job creation in America and lay the foundation for a strong
and growing economy.

Obama noted the growing evidence the country is facing an economic
crisis of historic proportions and said he was pleased Congress
passed an extension of unemployment benefits this past week. But, he
added, `We must do more to put people back to work and get our economy
moving again.

Nonetheless, he said, There are no quick or easy fixes to this
crisis, which has been many years in the making, and it's likely to
get worse before it gets better.

It will take support from Democrats and Republicans to pass the
economic plan, Obama said. I'll be welcome to ideas and suggestions
from both sides of the aisle, he said. But what is not negotiable is
the need for immediate action.

People are lying awake at night wondering if next week's paycheck
will cover next month's bills, if their jobs will remain, if their
retirement savings will disappear, he added.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said congressional
Democrats will continue pushing for aggressive but necessary
measures. Part of that is passing a substantial economic recovery
package, like the one President-elect Obama discussed this morning,
that creates good-paying jobs here in America and stabilizes a
volatile market.

In a slap at President George W. Bush, Reid added, We will soon
finally have a leader and partner in the White House who recognizes
the urgency with which we must turn around our economy, and I look
forward to working with him and the new Congress to do so.

The Labor Department reported that claims for unemployment benefits
jumped last week to the highest level since July 1992, providing fresh
evidence of the weakening job market.

We'll put people back to work rebuilding our crumbling roads and
bridges, modernizing schools that are failing our children, and
building wind farms and solar panels, Obama said. He also made a
commitment to fuel-efficient cars and alternative energy technologies
that can free us from our dependence on foreign oil and keep our
economy competitive in the years ahead.

Obama pointed to the past, saying that Americans in this country's
darkest hours have risen above their divisions to solve their
problems, as a hope for the future.

We have acted boldly, bravely, and above all, together, Obama said.
That is the chance our new beginning now offers us, and that is the
challenge we must rise to in the days to come. It is time to act. As
the next president of the United States, I will.

~~Associated Press: http://tinyurl.com/68l86a






[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...

2008-11-22 Thread Robert
 (snip)
 
 There is no realer Democrat than Hillary Clinton.

I think Hillary has transcended the Democrat label at this point...
We all know, she is a team player, and we know which side she is on.
Both Barack and Bill are Leos, and she seems to have good chemistry with,
Both of these two alpha males...a good support woman, for sure.

I believe, Secretary of State, is a bigger and better position for her, than to 
be:
The President...
Since the United States is still regard as the 'leader' in consciousness, in so 
many ways..
That the International nature of this position, will free Hillary to play a 
role on the world 
stage,
Especially to raise girls and woman up, around the world.
Congrats to Hill...from,
R.G.



Re: [FairfieldLife] The Obama New Deal: Era of Trickle Down Economics Has Ended

2008-11-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 22, 2008, at 3:34 PM, do.rflex wrote:

 The Labor Department reported that claims for unemployment benefits
 jumped last week to the highest level since July 1992, providing fresh
 evidence of the weakening job market.

 We'll put people back to work rebuilding our crumbling roads and
 bridges, modernizing schools that are failing our children, and
 building wind farms and solar panels, Obama said.

Wouldn't it be great if Bush, after being found guilty of war
crimes, had to do at least part of his sentence by building
wind farms and solar panels?

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin, Has-Been

2008-11-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oprah, Leno, Letterman: What's Palin to do next?
 
 By MICHAEL R. BLOOD
 Associated Press Writer 
 Sat Nov 22, 10:07 am ET
  
 ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin is juggling offers
 to write books, appear in films and sit on dozens
 of interview couches at a rate astonishing for most 
 Hollywood stars, let alone a first-term governor.
 
 Oprah wants her. So do Letterman and Leno.
 

I wonder if they would in case Sarah looked for instance a bit
like this:

http://tinyurl.com/628lrm




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin, Has-Been

2008-11-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Oprah, Leno, Letterman: What's Palin to do next?
  
  By MICHAEL R. BLOOD
  Associated Press Writer 
  Sat Nov 22, 10:07 am ET
   
  ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin is juggling offers
  to write books, appear in films and sit on dozens
  of interview couches at a rate astonishing for most 
  Hollywood stars, let alone a first-term governor.
  
  Oprah wants her. So do Letterman and Leno.
 
 I wonder if they would in case Sarah looked for instance a bit
 like this:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/628lrm

You may be able to intuit from this photo why some 
women only post anonymously to Fairfield Life, and 
why their  fame will go no further than this forum. 
Ever.  :-)

You also might have some idea why some of them 
manage to go through half of their limit of 50 posts
per week on this forum in one day. Being that angry 
is all they've got.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin, Has-Been

2008-11-22 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Nov 22, 2008, at 3:57 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:


Oprah, Leno, Letterman: What's Palin to do next?


Well, I don't know, but one thing she might consider
doing next is actually putting some effort into
raising her 3 remaining children.



By MICHAEL R. BLOOD
Associated Press Writer
Sat Nov 22, 10:07 am ET

ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin is juggling offers
to write books, appear in films and sit on dozens
of interview couches at a rate astonishing for most
Hollywood stars, let alone a first-term governor.

Oprah wants her. So do Letterman and Leno.


Bet her kids want her even more.
Yes, the Party of Family Values strikes again--
now that the errant son is packed off to Iraq and the
pregnant teenage daughter is safely out of sight
in some undisclosed location, the mother of these
unfortunate kids can once more opt our for a few
more years while she screws up her remaining ones.
Welcome to the face of the new GOP--
even more hypocritical than the old GOP!  Surely
a stunning achievement.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Mac/Bootcamp/Vmware/TechTool question

2008-11-22 Thread ultrarishi
Hey, good people.  I've gotten some outstanding Mac advice here in the
past and as a Mac nOOb I appreciate FFL's advice in this area.  My
question is in regards to installing TechTool on my MacBook Pro.

My unit is running Leopard.  I went ahead and setup Boot Camp and run
Windows XP Pro on the unit as well.  After I got Boot Camp and XP Pro
running great, I purchased and setup VMWare which runs just fine, too.
I would like to add TechTool to the Mac side of things, but don't know
if Boot Camp and XP's partition will screw up or be screwed by the
Tech Tool intstallation.  I don't won't to learn this the hard way, if
there is already an answer out there.

Any input would be appreciated.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughter, the best weapon against irrationality

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

snip
 These two irrational women CAN'T HANDLE being laughed
 at. It drives them crazier than anything else that could
 possibly happen to them, and they become even MORE 
 laughable than they were before as they sputter and
 pontificate and trot out their manufactured outrage.
 The more they sputter about being laughed at, the more
 people laugh at them. And that's the way things should
 be -- the closest thing to Natural Law I can imagine.

Dunno about anybody else, but I get a HUGE
kick out of the image of Barry getting off
on his fantasies of raunchydog and me
sputtering. He hasn't noticed that we ignore
him when he tries to make fun of us.

But if that doesn't tickle your funny bone,
check out the elaborate mess Barry makes of
his rant about Palin and Fey:

 Think about the recent election. For a while people were
 actually so shocked that McNumnuts chose Sarah Palin as
 his running mate that they were almost afraid to point
 out the obvious -- that she was an idiot in the true 
 sense of the word, both ignorant and proud of it.

Actually, if Barry had been paying attention,
he'd know that Palin's deficiencies had been
noticed and discussed at great length--even
by some conservatives--immediately after she
was announced as McCain's choice for VP.

Our own Shemp observed, in a post of August
29, the day her selection was announced:

I've seen more hatred --sputtering hatred -- 
expressed against Palin in the MSM in the past
6 hours since her nomination was announced
than in the last 6 months of Hillary's
running.

 Then along came Tina Fey. In one five-minute monologue 
 she showed America what Sarah Palin was, by doing nothing
 more than *emulating her own behavior* and accentuating it
 to laughable levels. Bingo. Tina Fey, in a very real sense,
 pointed out the Empresses' lack of clothes (something that
 Sarah quickly tried to rectify using the RNC credit cards), 
 and that she was an intellectual midget who was not even 
 *remotely* qualified to be Vice-President, much less 
 President. She was literally laughed out of contention.

Actually, of course, Fey never did a Palin
five-minute monologue; Barry appears to
have hallucinated that along with everything
else. All Fey's Palin impressions on SNL were
done with other people.

Fey's first Palin impression was her joint
appearance with Amy Poehler playing Hillary,
in which the two were giving a press
conference; this was on September 13, *after*
Palin's interview with ABC's Charles Gibson, in
which she didn't seem to know what the Bush
doctrine was and made a bunch of other gaffes,
including that being able to see Russia from
Alaska somehow gave her foreign policy
experience. Folks had been laughing about that
all week.

Barry seems to be thinking of the parody Fey
did two weeks later, on September 27, of
Palin's interview with Katie Couric, in which
a number of Palin's responses to Couric were
repeated almost verbatim by Fey. But Palin had
long since become a laughingstock for much of
America without Fey's help.

Have a look at the posts here (624 of 'em,
more than 40 a day) between the time she was
announced as McCain's pick and Tina Fey's first
SNL impression of Palin for a good reflection
of what most of the country was saying about
her.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin, Has-Been

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Oprah, Leno, Letterman: What's Palin to do next?
 
 Well, I don't know, but one thing she might consider
 doing next is actually putting some effort into
 raising her 3 remaining children.

Right. After all, as MMY always said, a woman's
place is in the home, raising the children.

guffaw





[FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player

2008-11-22 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 bob_brigante wrote:-
  NYT's tech guy has a simple guide to TV:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/66dqea




 A little wrong on the 1080p stuff.  You can't make an LCD panel 
that is 
 interlaced so all the 1080 line panels are progressive.  


***

Apparently most tech reviewers think that true LCD 1080P is here:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6482_7-6591614.html


Description of i/p TVs:

http://techdigs.net/content/view/53/42/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 Then I can paste it back in when I try again.

Paste it back? This doesn't even make any sense 
and what has it got to do with a Yahoo glitch? Is
it a rule that there has to be a glitch so you
have to copy and paste it back, or you get kicked
off the forum for a week? It looks like you wrote
in some secret code, a worm, or a trojan or maybe
a bot, that lets Judy post fifty-one. If so, that
was very unfair of you. Or, maybe somebody
should just learn to count. If this happened to me,
I'd just avoid posting for a week - instead of 
sneaking back in here to send a flame to Barry and 
Willytex.

Judy either overposted or she didn't - just count 
the posts and then state the facts. If she's over, 
then ban her for a week. If she didn't, then ban 
her for a week for calling me a liar, which is a 
lie - she is very aware that I did no such thing.
You informants, lurkers, trolls, and flamers need 
to stop all the lying and double standards if you
are going to be the chosen counters and moderators.

You probably sucked as a TM teacher and you suck as 
a counter-of-postings. Where's Dick Richardson when
we need him? Can't we have some information please,
instead of obsfuscation - don't you people have
anything to say?



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Obama New Deal: Era of Trickle Down Economics Has Ended

2008-11-22 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Nov 22, 2008, at 3:34 PM, do.rflex wrote:
 
  The Labor Department reported that claims for unemployment benefits
  jumped last week to the highest level since July 1992, providing fresh
  evidence of the weakening job market.
 
  We'll put people back to work rebuilding our crumbling roads and
  bridges, modernizing schools that are failing our children, and
  building wind farms and solar panels, Obama said.
 
 Wouldn't it be great if Bush, after being found guilty of war
 crimes, had to do at least part of his sentence by building
 wind farms and solar panels?
 
 Sal


I really wonder if he's too unconscious to recognize how extensively
he's despised, both in the USA and globally. 






[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush openly snubbed at the G20 Summit

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Everyone greeting each other and shaking hands,
 but Bush walks with his head down like the
 dejected most unpopular kid in high school. 
 
 Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Y_ncOVlDw

This is a great example of the kind of crap we
allow ourselves to fall for concerning public
figures we don't like.

Shemp's response to this was on the nose. Bush
doesn't look in the slightest bit dejected; and
in fact, as Shemp guessed, he *had*, in fact,
already shaken the hands of those who were lined
up earlier that day and the previous day. The
others who were walking along the line had not
yet had the chance to shake their hands.

Nobody was snubbing Bush. We might wish they
would, but they didn't.

CNN's Jeanne Moos did a story debunking this,
complete with video of Bush shaking hands with
the leaders one by one:

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=225893




[FairfieldLife] Walmart v the world

2008-11-22 Thread bob_brigante

 In Germany, where Wal-Mart was already fighting an uphill battle in a
very competitive market, it also faced problems of etiquette. Locals
balked at other people bagging their groceries or smiling at them when
they entered the store. (German men, apparently, thought they were being
hit on.)

http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/number-1/2008/11/21/wal-marts-ruble-\
trouble
http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/number-1/2008/11/21/wal-marts-ruble\
-trouble



[FairfieldLife] What is a sexaholic?

2008-11-22 Thread BillyG.
A sexaholic is one who *must* have sex, and is unable to control the
appetite, gay or straight. Outside of just being a scourge on the
individual and society it inhibits his ability to use the sex energy
(kama or shakti) for the far superior and lasting creative effects it
can produce.

Anyone who has sex for sex's sake is a fool who trades in a diamond
for a bag of spinach. Addiction to sex inhibits the ability of the
soul to transcend during meditation and experience the far superior joy
of eternal bliss.

If the shakti energy is tied up in the lower chakras governing lust,
anger and greed (the lower three) the kundalini pranic fire sleeping
in the muladhar chakra (root chakra) will not awake taking the
consciousness or jiva with it.

The process of transcending is withdrawing the prana from the mind and
senses, (pratyahara) this is not possible if strong attachments are
impeding the withdrawal of this pranic force.

Samskaras (impressions or memories from sex indulgences, etc.) exist
in the subconscious mind and have their correlation in the physical
body (MMY calls these stresses), these vrittis (whirlpools in the
chitta or mind) must be stilled (nirodha) through the application of
Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga, chastity being in one of these limbs!

Until these vrittis (or sleeping elephants as MMY calls them) are
completely stilled the prana will not withdraw and take the soul or
jiva to transcendental consciousness. Through *grace* during TM and
*effort* through living a moral ethical life as recommended by
Patanjali, salvation (freedom from the wheel of birth and death,
samsara) are possible.

You can't have your cake and eat it too!  Either you live a good life
and have sex for the reasons it was created in marriage with the view
to children in the Grahasta period of life (one of four of life's
stages) and be happy and have good meditations or, you slip into
addictions which rob the soul of its peace of mind and hold one in
material slavery. Sex for sex's sake is inconsistent with the
spiritual life...







[FairfieldLife] Re: What is a sexaholic?

2008-11-22 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A sexaholic is one who *must* have sex, and is unable to control the
 appetite, gay or straight. Outside of just being a scourge on the
 individual and society it inhibits his ability to use the sex energy
 (kama or shakti) for the far superior and lasting creative effects it
 can produce.
 
 Anyone who has sex for sex's sake is a fool who trades in a diamond
 for a bag of spinach. Addiction to sex inhibits the ability of the
 soul to transcend during meditation and experience the far superior joy
 of eternal bliss.
 
 If the shakti energy is tied up in the lower chakras governing lust,
 anger and greed (the lower three) the kundalini pranic fire sleeping
 in the muladhar chakra (root chakra) will not awake taking the
 consciousness or jiva with it.
 
 The process of transcending is withdrawing the prana from the mind and
 senses, (pratyahara) this is not possible if strong attachments are
 impeding the withdrawal of this pranic force.
 
 Samskaras (impressions or memories from sex indulgences, etc.) exist
 in the subconscious mind and have their correlation in the physical
 body (MMY calls these stresses), these vrittis (whirlpools in the
 chitta or mind) must be stilled (nirodha) through the application of
 Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga, chastity being in one of these limbs!
 
 Until these vrittis (or sleeping elephants as MMY calls them) are
 completely stilled the prana will not withdraw and take the soul or
 jiva to transcendental consciousness. Through *grace* during TM and
 *effort* through living a moral ethical life as recommended by
 Patanjali, salvation (freedom from the wheel of birth and death,
 samsara) are possible.
 
 You can't have your cake and eat it too!  Either you live a good life
 and have sex for the reasons it was created in marriage with the view
 to children in the Grahasta period of life (one of four of life's
 stages) and be happy and have good meditations or, you slip into
 addictions which rob the soul of its peace of mind and hold one in
 material slavery. Sex for sex's sake is inconsistent with the
 spiritual life...



Come on over here Billy honey, I think you need some lovin'.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player

2008-11-22 Thread Bhairitu
bob_brigante wrote:

 ***

 Apparently most tech reviewers think that true LCD 1080P is here:

 http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6482_7-6591614.html


 Description of i/p TVs:

 http://techdigs.net/content/view/53/42/
   
Another piece of hype is 120hz LCDs.  Maybe for sports but I wonder if 
the typical user could tell the difference.  And now they are marketing 
240hz sets.  I wouldn't be surprised that in 6 months they won't be 
selling anything less than 120hz sets because they often don't like to 
manufacture too many varieties.  But by then the price of the 120hz may 
be the same as today's 60hz.




Re: [FairfieldLife] YouTube - Pranic Healing - Special Assignment

2008-11-22 Thread I am the eternal
2008/11/22 Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahg6Ut1cyhA


From Humboldt:

Maharishi, I've been doing experiments where I've been transmitting
subtle energy to rats.  You've been what?  Placing my hands on
rats and transmitting subtle energy to them.  What?  Sort of like
Tie Chi.  Tie what?  Tie Chi.  It's Chinese.

Oh.  Like those ching chung boys.  This is a bunch of foolishness.


[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread FFL PostCount
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Obama New Deal: Era of Trickle Down Economics Has Ended

2008-11-22 Thread I am the eternal
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 4:20 PM, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Wouldn't it be great if Bush, after being found guilty of war
 crimes, had to do at least part of his sentence by building
 wind farms and solar panels?

 Sal


 I really wonder if he's too unconscious to recognize how extensively
 he's despised, both in the USA and globally.


Bush Tours America To Survey Damage Caused By His Disastrous Presidency

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/bush_tours_america_to_survey


[FairfieldLife] Re: What is a sexaholic?

2008-11-22 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  A sexaholic is one who *must* have sex, and is unable to control the
  appetite, gay or straight. Outside of just being a scourge on the
  individual and society it inhibits his ability to use the sex energy
  (kama or shakti) for the far superior and lasting creative effects it
  can produce.
  
  Anyone who has sex for sex's sake is a fool who trades in a diamond
  for a bag of spinach. Addiction to sex inhibits the ability of the
  soul to transcend during meditation and experience the far
superior joy
  of eternal bliss.
  
  If the shakti energy is tied up in the lower chakras governing lust,
  anger and greed (the lower three) the kundalini pranic fire sleeping
  in the muladhar chakra (root chakra) will not awake taking the
  consciousness or jiva with it.
  
  The process of transcending is withdrawing the prana from the mind and
  senses, (pratyahara) this is not possible if strong attachments are
  impeding the withdrawal of this pranic force.
  
  Samskaras (impressions or memories from sex indulgences, etc.) exist
  in the subconscious mind and have their correlation in the physical
  body (MMY calls these stresses), these vrittis (whirlpools in the
  chitta or mind) must be stilled (nirodha) through the application of
  Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga, chastity being in one of these limbs!
  
  Until these vrittis (or sleeping elephants as MMY calls them) are
  completely stilled the prana will not withdraw and take the soul or
  jiva to transcendental consciousness. Through *grace* during TM and
  *effort* through living a moral ethical life as recommended by
  Patanjali, salvation (freedom from the wheel of birth and death,
  samsara) are possible.
  
  You can't have your cake and eat it too!  Either you live a good life
  and have sex for the reasons it was created in marriage with the view
  to children in the Grahasta period of life (one of four of life's
  stages) and be happy and have good meditations or, you slip into
  addictions which rob the soul of its peace of mind and hold one in
  material slavery. Sex for sex's sake is inconsistent with the
  spiritual life...
 
 
 
 Come on over here Billy honey, I think you need some lovin'.

Let me tell you sweetie, all you got to offer is 'chump change'
compared to the almighty presence of God;  and it certainly isn't
love! I hate to disappoint you but, a woman's 'love' is not the
ultimate joy that life has to offer and don't expect me to grovel for
itLove, what an overworked word, gads!



[FairfieldLife] Re: What is a sexaholic?

2008-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ 
wrote:
snip 
  Come on over here Billy honey, I think you need some lovin'.
 
 Let me tell you sweetie, all you got to offer is
 'chump change' compared to the almighty presence of
 God;  and it certainly isn't love! I hate to
 disappoint you but, a woman's 'love' is not the
 ultimate joy that life has to offer and don't expect
 me to grovel for itLove, what an overworked
 word, gads!

Wow, Billypoo, you just positively *radiate* God's
love. It's clear as it can be that the ultimate joy
of the almighty presence has transformed you.




[FairfieldLife] For You Dick Lovers

2008-11-22 Thread Bhairitu
Six part 1994 BBC documentary on Philip K Dick:
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJehaCfnXHE



[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz

2008-11-22 Thread feste37
I got only 3 wrong, so my score was 90.91%.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I
  scored 81.82%. How about you?
 
 87.88% (4 wrong out of 33). I thought most of
 the questions were elementary (but with some
 of them, it helped to be older).
 
 I was surprised that I got all 9 of the
 economic (25-33) questions right. That isn't
 usually my strong suit.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 SPOILERS FOLLOW
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I got these wrong:
 
 4)   What was the main issue in the debates between
 Abraham Lincoln and Stephen A. Douglas in 1858? 
 A. Is slavery morally wrong? 
 B. Would slavery be allowed to expand to new territories? 
 C. Do Southern states have the constitutional right to
 leave the union? 
 D. Are free African Americans citizens of the United States? 
 
 I really didn't know. I figured it was B or C but 
 guessed C.
 
 7)   What was the source of the following phrase:
 Government of the people, for the people, by the people? 
 A. the speech I Have a Dream 
 B. Declaration of Independence 
 C. U.S. Constitution 
 D. Gettysburg Address
 
 Knew it was either B or D but picked B.
 
 Others who got this wrong are saying the mistake was
 embarrassing, and the introductory material on the
 site seems to think it was the most shocking mistake
 most people made. I beg to disagree. When a phrase
 is that familiar, it's often very difficult to recall
 which of several equally familiar sources it came
 from.
 
 9)   Under Our Constitution, some powers belong to the
 federal government. What is one power of the federal
 government? 
 A. Make treaties 
 B. Levy income taxes 
 C. Maintain prisons 
 D. Natural Disaster Aid 
 
 Thought both A and B were correct, picked B. I still
 don't understand why it's wrong. If the federal
 government doesn't have the power to levy income
 taxes, who does?? Somebody please explain! I assumed
 income taxes meant federal income taxes, but maybe
 it's wrong because states also levy income taxes.
 
 11)   What impact did the Anti-Federalists have on the
 United States Constitution? 
 A. their arguments helped lead to the adoption of the
 Bill of Rights 
 B. their arguments helped lead to the abolition of the
 slave trade 
 C. their influence ensured that the federal government
 would maintain a standing army 
 D. their influence ensured that the federal government
 would have the power to tax
 
 Didn't know this one; figured it was A or B, picked B.
 Had no idea who the Anti-Federalists were or when they
 were active. Looked them up afterward; they were against
 the ratification of the Constitution. The Bill of Rights
 was proposed to placate the states that would otherwise
 not have voted for ratification due to the influence of
 the Anti-Federalists. This was well before the slave
 trade had become a big issue, and it isn't addressed in
 the Constitution anyway, so that was a really dumb
 mistake.





[FairfieldLife] Re: For You Dick Lovers

2008-11-22 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Six part 1994 BBC documentary on Philip K Dick:
 Part 1:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJehaCfnXHE

  Billy put me off of loving Dick. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: What is a sexaholic?

2008-11-22 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 snip 
   Come on over here Billy honey, I think you need some lovin'.
  
  Let me tell you sweetie, all you got to offer is
  'chump change' compared to the almighty presence of
  God;  and it certainly isn't love! I hate to
  disappoint you but, a woman's 'love' is not the
  ultimate joy that life has to offer and don't expect
  me to grovel for itLove, what an overworked
  word, gads!
 
 Wow, Billypoo, you just positively *radiate* God's
 love. It's clear as it can be that the ultimate joy
 of the almighty presence has transformed you.

No, nor did I imply that! It takes time, but surely Judy after all
your study and meditation I don't have to explain all of this to
you, do I, or perhaps I inadvertently pushed a button?  Perhaps you should
reexamine your reply, I think with a little introspection you might
learn something about yourself... just a suggestion.

You know the old saying, If you don't like the message, kill the
messenger, do you think this applies to your response?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
   I only got a count of 50 for Judy with the program 
   that runs on my desktop.  Alex may have received a
   duplicate email on the account he uses. 
  
Alex wrote:
  I now get my FFL email feed from a Gmail account, and
  my post count was the same as the official post count,
  which also uses a Gmail account. I looked at the
  time/date column for her week's worth of posts, and I
  didn't see any pairs posted at the same time.
 
Judy wrote:
 Alex, Tuesday's post count had me at 48. I made only
 two posts after that, but Wednesday's post count had
 me at 51. So there's an error somewhere.

Error? The only error I see is you were over the limit
and instead of refraining from sending anymore posts
you went online and slammed me and Barry, calling
us liars for no apparent good reason. You should have
worked this out with the counters BEFORE you lied like
you did. You known perfectly well I have not posted
any lies to this forum - if I did, you would have
pointed them out by now. 

The counters do not lie and there is no glitch - now
you're way over the limit! Maybe you should keep
your pie hole shut for about a week and stop this
incessant trolling!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread gullible fool

Maybe you should keep your pie hole shut for about a week and stop this
incessant trolling!
 
What would she eat her pies with?
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:15 PM

   I only got a count of 50 for Judy with the program 
   that runs on my desktop.  Alex may have received a
   duplicate email on the account he uses. 
  
Alex wrote:
  I now get my FFL email feed from a Gmail account, and
  my post count was the same as the official post count,
  which also uses a Gmail account. I looked at the
  time/date column for her week's worth of posts, and I
  didn't see any pairs posted at the same time.
 
Judy wrote:
 Alex, Tuesday's post count had me at 48. I made only
 two posts after that, but Wednesday's post count had
 me at 51. So there's an error somewhere.

Error? The only error I see is you were over the limit
and instead of refraining from sending anymore posts
you went online and slammed me and Barry, calling
us liars for no apparent good reason. You should have
worked this out with the counters BEFORE you lied like
you did. You known perfectly well I have not posted
any lies to this forum - if I did, you would have
pointed them out by now. 

The counters do not lie and there is no glitch - now
you're way over the limit! Maybe you should keep
your pie hole shut for about a week and stop this
incessant trolling!




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
 Maybe you should keep your pie hole shut for 
 about a week and stop this incessant trolling!

gullible fool wrote:  
 What would she eat her pies with?
  
She could give up eating the pies for a week or 
so and just follow the rules set up by the three
moderators and one informant. I don't make the
rules around here - apparently we voted for the
rules so we could talk about Sarah Palin for
seventy-five posts a week. Maybe we should just
vote on dropping the fifty rule and let people
post anything they want to - nobody seems to
object when Judy calls other people liars without
the slightest evidence, so what's the point? Let
the people have all the pies they want. Obviously
the fifty rule doesn't prevent senseless flames. 
Let us eat the cake and get rid of the FFL cops!
I mean, nobody has anything to say, Dick already
proved that.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is a sexaholic?

2008-11-22 Thread Peter
Billy, you remind me of myself 35 years ago. You're afraid of the emotional 
intimacy of a sexual relationship so you spout all this spiritual nonsense 
that, while very true, is also adharmic for the majority of people. If you're 
truly celibate you don't run around lecturing people about the joys of semen 
retention. You need to examine your motivation for your emotional isolation 
from others you are intrinsically attracted to and stop spouting spiritual 
claptrap. If you masturbate at all, your post is a fraud. Now, I know you're 
going to tell us how you don't masturbate, but you know that's not true, right? 
 


--- On Sat, 11/22/08, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is a sexaholic?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 7:36 PM
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  
   A sexaholic is one who *must* have sex, and is
 unable to control the
   appetite, gay or straight. Outside of just being
 a scourge on the
   individual and society it inhibits his ability to
 use the sex energy
   (kama or shakti) for the far superior and lasting
 creative effects it
   can produce.
   
   Anyone who has sex for sex's sake is a fool
 who trades in a diamond
   for a bag of spinach. Addiction to sex inhibits
 the ability of the
   soul to transcend during meditation and
 experience the far
 superior joy
   of eternal bliss.
   
   If the shakti energy is tied up in the lower
 chakras governing lust,
   anger and greed (the lower three) the kundalini
 pranic fire sleeping
   in the muladhar chakra (root chakra) will not
 awake taking the
   consciousness or jiva with it.
   
   The process of transcending is withdrawing the
 prana from the mind and
   senses, (pratyahara) this is not possible if
 strong attachments are
   impeding the withdrawal of this pranic force.
   
   Samskaras (impressions or memories from sex
 indulgences, etc.) exist
   in the subconscious mind and have their
 correlation in the physical
   body (MMY calls these stresses), these vrittis
 (whirlpools in the
   chitta or mind) must be stilled (nirodha) through
 the application of
   Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga, chastity being
 in one of these limbs!
   
   Until these vrittis (or sleeping elephants as MMY
 calls them) are
   completely stilled the prana will not withdraw
 and take the soul or
   jiva to transcendental consciousness. Through
 *grace* during TM and
   *effort* through living a moral ethical life as
 recommended by
   Patanjali, salvation (freedom from the wheel of
 birth and death,
   samsara) are possible.
   
   You can't have your cake and eat it too! 
 Either you live a good life
   and have sex for the reasons it was created in
 marriage with the view
   to children in the Grahasta period of life (one
 of four of life's
   stages) and be happy and have good meditations
 or, you slip into
   addictions which rob the soul of its peace of
 mind and hold one in
   material slavery. Sex for sex's sake is
 inconsistent with the
   spiritual life...
  
  
  
  Come on over here Billy honey, I think you need some
 lovin'.
 
 Let me tell you sweetie, all you got to offer is 'chump
 change'
 compared to the almighty presence of God;  and it certainly
 isn't
 love! I hate to disappoint you but, a woman's
 'love' is not the
 ultimate joy that life has to offer and don't expect me
 to grovel for
 itLove, what an overworked word, gads!
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Shiva Sutras'

2008-11-22 Thread Vaj

Silly Willy:

On Nov 21, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Vaj wrote:

It helps to have an experiential understanding
of the different states of consciousness being
expressed in the two different types of texts,


The transcendental state is the state being
discussed in the Shiva Sutras and there is only
one transcendental state of consciousness. You can
get an experiential unsterstanding of the
transcendental state by practicing transcendental
meditation.


Willy the word transcendental is an English word and does not appear  
in the Shiva sutras of Vasagupta. It's actually left undefined in TM- 
speak in terms of Sanskrit equivalents so it could be applied to  
whatever the Marsh-man wanted. Great for marketing your product, bad  
for authenticity.







yoga and nondualism. They're different states
of consciousness.


According to the Shiva Sutras, there are three
states of conciousness, Trika, but there is also
a fourth state, Turiya, the non-dual state. The
purpose of practicing yoga is to experience this
non-dual state.


Willy, it's the approach to that state that differs.





Although one can intellectually understand it,
it really is only clear if you are actually
experientially familiar with the states of
consciousness and their POV.


You can read the Shiva Sutras and you can read
commentaries by the Lachsmanjoo, but until you've
reached the transcendental state, you will not
understand the non-dual state of Turiya.


Unfortunately for your typically weak hypothesis the word  
transcendental is a moving target. It can mean whatever you want it  
to mean. You need to actually refer to a source word in the original  
text, not a vague or universal adjective in English--and these would  
have to be in synch with realizers and the way-of-seeing of the text  
you're referring to--you do neither. Methinks you're falling for the  
very common fallacy of other TMer TB's on this list, trying to argue  
from a vague but attractive English marketing term! :-)


Well at least we know you were sold!





To the ignorant it would just sound like
nit-picking.


Only the ignorant need to nit-pick - especaiily
those who have not experienced the transcendent,
and those who cannot read Sanskrit and those who
do not understand that the peractice of TM is the
best and fasted way to reach the transcendent.


What do you think the transcendent means experientially Willy?


Wise men like the Swami Lachsmanjoo practice TM
as taught by the Marshy, THEN they expound on the
various states of consciousness and read the
sutras.


Actually Swami Lakshman Joo didn't practice TM. But some fools have  
even tried to connect Trika literature to TM.


Swami Lakshman Joo meditated with his eyes wide open. I'm guessing,  
but I think you might want to get checked Willy. Since you seem to  
speak Texan, you might want to have an English-Texan translator  
available!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Maybe you should keep your pie hole shut for 
  about a week and stop this incessant trolling!
 
 gullible fool wrote:  
  What would she eat her pies with?
   
 She could give up eating the pies for a week or 
 so and just follow the rules set up by the three
 moderators and one informant. I don't make the
 rules around here - apparently we voted for the
 rules so we could talk about Sarah Palin for
 seventy-five posts a week. Maybe we should just
 vote on dropping the fifty rule and let people
 post anything they want to - nobody seems to
 object when Judy calls other people liars without
 the slightest evidence, so what's the point? Let
 the people have all the pies they want. Obviously
 the fifty rule doesn't prevent senseless flames. 
 Let us eat the cake and get rid of the FFL cops!
 I mean, nobody has anything to say, Dick already
 proved that.

++  In the context of cosmic significance, how big a deal is an extra
post or two.
 There are obviously some great minds here but, at times, it looks
like they are idling or, running on screen saver.  N.



[FairfieldLife] Re: For You Dick Lovers

2008-11-22 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Six part 1994 BBC documentary on Philip K Dick:
  Part 1:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJehaCfnXHE
 
   Billy put me off of loving Dick.



Say it ain't so.

The world is a better place if that ain't so sweet thang.



[FairfieldLife] Re: What is a sexaholic?

2008-11-22 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Billy, you remind me of myself 35 years ago. You're afraid of the
emotional intimacy of a sexual relationship so you spout all this
spiritual nonsense that, while very true, is also adharmic for the
majority of people. If you're truly celibate you don't run around
lecturing people about the joys of semen retention. 

The only reason I brought it up is it needs to be said!  There is not
enough masculine values in our World and society, this is one!
Hercules was a mythical hero who embodied these masculine virtues. I
hope you haven't given up on yourself, after all, time is the most
precious capital we have here on earth and winning the battle between
good (harmony with the laws of nature) and evil (ego based
willfullness) is a battle that must be waged and must be won! What do
you think the Bhagavad Gita was all about?


You need to examine your motivation for your emotional isolation
from others you are intrinsically attracted to and stop spouting
spiritual claptrap. If you masturbate at all, your post is a fraud.
Now, I know you're going to tell us how you don't masturbate, but you
know that's not true, right?  

Love and marriage in the context of the laws of nature (or the will of
God) is a source of inspiration and happiness, I haven't achieved that
but the foundation of that is spiritual and moral growth, since I
started actually practicing the virtues associated with Yoga (yama and
niyama) I have made remarkable progress!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-11-22 Thread gullible fool



She could give up eating the pies for a week or 
so and just follow the rules set up by the three
moderators and one informant
 
One moderator.
 
There should be a two-day moratorium on the pie abstinence. We can't ask anyone 
to skip eating the pies on the Thanksgiving holiday and Friday should be 
available for the leftovers.
 
Let us eat the cake and get rid of the FFL cops!
 
One FFL cop. 
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  


--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:33 PM

 Maybe you should keep your pie hole shut for 
 about a week and stop this incessant trolling!

gullible fool wrote:  
 What would she eat her pies with?
  
She could give up eating the pies for a week or 
so and just follow the rules set up by the three
moderators and one informant. I don't make the
rules around here - apparently we voted for the
rules so we could talk about Sarah Palin for
seventy-five posts a week. Maybe we should just
vote on dropping the fifty rule and let people
post anything they want to - nobody seems to
object when Judy calls other people liars without
the slightest evidence, so what's the point? Let
the people have all the pies they want. Obviously
the fifty rule doesn't prevent senseless flames. 
Let us eat the cake and get rid of the FFL cops!
I mean, nobody has anything to say, Dick already
proved that.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?

2008-11-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
 no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   
   snip
i think B. is a lot more important to you than he is to
anyone else here. he's just a guy who writes stuff. who
cares what his motives might be? he only has the power
to influence you if you grant him that power. i don't.
and maybe you ought to consider that option too,
especially in light of your opinions about him.
   
   Uh, he doesn't influence me at all. I think
   you've missed my point completely. It's about
   social responsibility, which you don't seem to
   want to have anything to do with. Never mind.
  
  ok, but let me ask you this- do you think one word of
  what you have written has changed the thinking of, or
  the life outlook of your nemesis, B, here?
 
 Nope. It would take a bunch of people indicating on
 a regular basis that his lies were unacceptable, and
 refusing to interact with him until he stopped telling
 them, for him to change, and even then it would only
 be his behavior that changed, not his thinking or
 life outlook.
 
 If he were ever to change his thinking or life
 outlook, it wouldn't be on the basis of what anybody
 said to him, but because he had had some kind of
 personal epiphany that made him realize what an
 appalling phony he was.
 
 We can always hope for that, but in the meantime a
 change in his behavior would make this forum a lot
 more pleasant.
 
 snip
  although you have some good things to say sometimes, as
  does B., both of you have built these elaboarate
  fantasies in your respective minds that you are somehow
  widely read and followed by a large audience here
 
 I won't speak for Barry (although it's obvious from
 his posts that he's a chronic fantasist), but I
 certainly have no such fantasy.

ok-- thanks for mentioning that.



[FairfieldLife] Debunking the myth of the $70-per-hour autoworker

2008-11-22 Thread gullible fool

 
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=1026e955-541c-4aa6-bcf2-56dfc3323682


Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  


  

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