[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 waybac...@... wrote: I have never seen anyone levitate, and have no idea what you saw many times. Well, it *appeared* to be gentle lifting up off the sofa and then hovering in mid-air for several minutes in exactly the way that a brick doesn't. (Not to Douglas Adams for that description of levitation.) Or, out in the desert, him just stepping up off the sand and walking around about a foot above the ground for a while. Neat to see...still don't know what it was. I know Rama also could move clouds on command - and that was reported by many people in the audience at the same time. So something happened, but what I do not know. I was there, and I don't know, either. Saw the cloud trick many times, as did many others. My favorite is still the turning invisible thang, standing two or three feet in front of you and then turning first opaque and then invisible, so that I could see stars through his body. Neato. Great fun all around. And there were other good times as well. And yet at the same time, the guy could be a real shit, and wound up offing himself. Go figure. Regarding spaceships - maybe they are getting us accustomed to the idea of other intelligences slowly over time. Not much I can do but wait and see. Not much any of us can do but wait and see. Me, I am still not convinced that spaceships are involved at all. Given the vast distances involved, any race that still needed technology to move from one planet/ star to another is so unevolved as to be uninteresting IMO. My bet is that if we've ever had visitors, they just mentally project a kind of subtle body here, not necessarily a physical one. People catch glimpses of these subtle bodies from time to time but, having no intellectual framework for such things, think that what they are seeing must be physical. That's my theory, anyway. And I agree with your idea that the here and now needs a lot of attention and improvement - You don't help ignorant savages by giving them high explosives. And there is simply no question that planet Earth is populated by ignorant savages. altho I do kind of hope that if contact is made, I am alive when it happens and that humans can improve as a result. I've been a fan of science fiction long enough to know that most writers assume things would turn out more like District 9 than benevolently. Or like Avatar. Humans have a tendency to fuck things up. In addition to all the technology info, which must be wondrous, I would love to know what other beings have as belief systems - do they have a spiritual view of the cosmos, or scientific, or both? I hear that the Plieaideans worship the Big Duck, and that the Swedish tradition of sitting around watching Donald Duck cartoons on Christmas Eve is an artifact of early contact with them. :-) Ah well, back to reading on a cold and wet winter day. I love it. I am rereading a few favorites (Fifth Business by Davies right now. I am guessing you would like it if you haven't already read it). I know about Robertson Davies from the time I lived in Canada, but somehow have never read anything by him. I'll try to correct that oversight...
[FairfieldLife] Re: samaadhi and samaapatti?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Dec 26, 2009, at 4:24 PM, cardemaister wrote: Anyone know, what's the difference between samaadhi and samaapatti? The first seems to have been derived from the root 'dhaa' with the prefixes 'sam' and 'aa'; the second from the root 'pat', with the same prefixes. The 4 samapattis are the 6 varieties of samprajnata samadhi in a Hindu yogic context. So, are the possible gaps between those 6 varieties different levels of transcending??
[FairfieldLife] Vedic Society News from India: Foursomes 'R Us
Narain Dutt Tiwari, 86-Year-Old Indian Governor, Resigns After 3-Woman Sex Tape Surfaces [India Gov] HYDERABAD, India The 86-year-old governor of a southern Indian state resigned, a day after a television news channel broadcast a tape allegedly showing him in bed with three women. Pressure mounted on Gov. Narain Dutt Tiwari to quit after the tape allegedly showing him in bed with three women was broadcast Friday, prompting the opposition and women's right groups to hold street protests in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh's state capital, demanding his resignation. Tiwari's office denied the allegation, denouncing the tape as fabricated. Tiwari, a veteran governing Congress party leader at the national level, sent his resignation letter to the Indian president on Saturday, citing health reasons, a state official said on condition of anonymity as he was not authorized to talk to reporters. The news channel report is fabricated, false and malicious to tarnish the image of the governor, said a statement issued by Aryendra Sharma, an aide to the governor. The three women were brought to Hyderabad by another woman who was allegedly promised a mining lease by the governor in return for sexual favors, ABN Andhra Jyoti News reported. The woman said she decided to expose Tiwari through a sting operation after he did not keep his promise, the channel said. A court stopped the channel from broadcasting the tape again later Friday after a petition filed by Sharma, who argued the video was likely to demean and denigrate his office. Tiwari earlier served as the top elected official of northern Uttar Pradesh and Uttrakhand states and as a federal minister.
[FairfieldLife] Loads of om's!
In Swedish, 'om' is, amongst other things, a preposition, meaning, for instance, 'about'. So, 'om yantrakit' means in English 'about yantrakit'! :0 http://www.yantramattan.se/om_yantrakit.shtml
[FairfieldLife] Re: 30th Anniversary Celebrations!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote: Such instruction was almost non-existant before Maharishi and is exceedingly rare outside his teaching even today, though of course with success there are imitators, and those like yourself who seek personal enrichment by criticising those who are trying to help others. Spot on shukra ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandpaul@ wrote: Maharishi was teaching this meditation for free for several years before residing in Hollywood and starting to charge for it simple meditation instruction. I doubt anyone back in India in those days would have paid to be given a mantra and a little advice on how to bring the mind to a state of restful alertness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Christmas Story
Very nice, thanks for posting this Rick. In fact Maharishi was very clear that if the Sidhas did not respond quickly and went to Femahrn during Christmas a war would start. But I'm unsure to the Colone's details as I remember that the Soviets wanted to invade Poland because of the unrest created by Lech Walesa and the workers there, that they marched up several divisions of tanks on the Polish/Soviet border that was nutralized by huge amounts of snow only days after the course in Femahrn started; with such amounts of snow even tanks could not move. But let the historians sort this out. I doubt the Soviets would dare to attack West-Germany knowing that that would be a start of a new huge war. What they did not know was that the Western countries would not allow the Soviets to invade Poland and the consequences would be the same as invading West-Germany. I also heard that after the course Maharishi said We avoided world war III (words from memory, not quote) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: A Christmas Story Germany's Colonel Gunter Chasse, a longtime Meditator, recently related a wonderful Christmas memory. He explained what led to the planned invasion of West Germany by the Warsaw Pact armies in December 1978. Colonel Chasse illustrated the political and military build-up with maps, and showed documents confirming the decision of the Warsaw Pact armies to invade West Germany at Christmas. Colonel Chasse then showed how Maharishi, being aware of the pending conflict, chose the island of Fehmarn - in the Baltic Sea between East and West Germany where the Warsaw Pact fleet would attempt to pass out to the Atlantic - as the strategic location of a course for 1, 500 Meditators with the advanced TM-Sidhis Program, who traveled and gathered on the island of Fehmarn at that time and meditated together in that one location, creating an invisible, but invincible armour of protection for the entire area. During the time of the course, the surrounding areas had the biggest snowstorms in decades; the storms spread from Fehmarn concentrically to East and West Germany. The highways and railways were all blocked, and the Baltic Sea froze. As a result, the army and navy could not attack. But both the East and West German armies were put to positive use - in an atmosphere of great cordiality - in bringing food and medical supplies to a huge number of villages and farms stranded by the snowstorms. Colonel Chasse related that this was the turning point of the Cold War: from then on relations between East and West Germany began to melt. It was a powerful example of Maharishi's programs of 'Invincible Defence' preventing a catastrophic war at the last possible moment, possibly averting the danger of World War III. What started out as an invasion, resulted in the spirit of giving. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. MAY 2010 BE YOUR BEST YEAR YET! Garry, Helen, and the Maharishi Invincibility Centre - Victoria Teaching the Transcendental Meditation Program
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt
who's birthday was last week? U ...where do we send cards and presents? From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 26, 2009 5:23:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Bhairitu noozg...@.. . wrote: snip As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he has no real connection to any terrorist group especially Al-Qaeda but is just a nut case. That is apparently what his dad fears. But the fascists will use any excuse to put fear into the public to control them. My bet is that airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules. As it's unfolding, it's beginning to look as though it may have been the real thing, Al Qaeda and all. From Brian Ross's team at ABC News: The plot to blow up an American passenger jet over Detroit was organized and launched by al Qaeda leaders in Yemen who apparently sewed bomb materials into the suspect's underwear before sending him on his mission, federal authorities tell ABC News. Investigators say the suspect had more than 80 grams of PETN, a compound related to nitro-glycerin used by the military. The so-called shoe bomber, Richard Reid, had only about 50 grams in his failed attempt in 2001 to blow up a U.S.-bound jet. Yesterday's bomb failed because the detonator may have been too small or was not in 'proper contact' with the explosive material, investigators told ABC News. Investigators say the suspect, Abdul Farouk Umar Abdulmutallab, a 23-year-old Nigerian student whose birthday was last Tuesday, has provided detailed information about his recruitment and training for what was supposed to be a Christmas Day suicide attack Read more: http://abcnews. go.com/Blotter/ northwest- bomb-plot- planned-al- qaeda-yemen/ story?id= 9426085 http://tinyurl. com/yk653lz Lots more details at the link, including that the packet of powder had been sewn to his underwear right next to his genitals, where it would be less likely to be discovered. Wonder how that will affect body-search procedures for men. Apparently he burned his balls pretty badly when he tried to set the thing off.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt
I hope they were nice to him when they arrested him. Navy Seals are being court martialed for slugging the guy in the gut, that murdered Americans, burned them and hung them from a bridge. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 26, 2009 1:28:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt Better hope you don't have a diarrhea attack within an hour of landing on your next plane flight. The airlines goofy over this alleged bombing attempt have implemented a rule that an hour before landing you can't leave your seat. Apparently some are even saying you can't even have any carry-on items in your lap during that time. Really shows you the intelligence of management of the airlines which is why they are doing so poorly. They kowtow to the security theater people who dream up this kind of stuff. As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he has no real connection to any terrorist group especially Al-Qaeda but is just a nut case. That is apparently what his dad fears. But the fascists will use any excuse to put fear into the public to control them. My bet is that airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules. http://tinyurl. com/y8alwmc
[FairfieldLife] The Recession has pushed Americans past the breaking point
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[FairfieldLife] Even Krugman Misses Point about Mandates Affordability
The only relevant question for these otherwise uninsured folks is whether they can afford to make the total payments required by the mandates, year after year, given the bill's weaknesses. If they can't, then they're not really covered, and the mandate is unjustified. They'll be stuck paying the penalty, and they still won't have insurance. Read more: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/21054
[FairfieldLife] Why FDL with Strange Bedfellows: Obama's Failed Leadership
Into the resultant breach, bold progressive liberals much step. Here are some reasons: * The White House clearly stated its desire and ability to abandon the Left. That leaves only progressive liberals standing up for the true interests of the battered middle class, working poor, and disenfranchised. * BHO and his Chief of Staff are deathly afraid of repeating Clintonâs failure to reform HC in the 90s despite the fact that conditions today are not like those in the 90s. The lesson they failed to recognize was not that the WH had to neutralize the health insurance/pharmaceutical industry by catering to them; it was that they had to neutralize the health insurance/pharmaceutical industry by pro-actively going over their heads directly to the American people, who were primed by economic realities to accept social democratic solutions to the unsustainable US health care model. * Progressive liberals have no obligation to march in lock step with the Democratic Party; we do have the right to use the Democratic Party as a vehicle to achieve our ends. * Alliances with strange bedfellows are force-multipliers; that is, they allow us to affect outcomes we otherwise would not. Read More: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/20867 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Yup. I must admit, though, I don't know what the hell Hamsher is doing with her Grover Norquist stunt. I know what her stated rationale is, but I'm not at all sure it makes any sense. Much as I'd like to see Rahm have to pack his bags, this effort isn't going anywhere. All Hamsher's going to do is destroy her own credibility. Jane is swinging for the fence and she's taking a lot of flack for it. I applaud her courage. Even though it's Grover spit with whom she wrote a letter, she's doing what lefties such as Thom Hartmann have recommended, finding common ground with independents and the tea party. If this is what Hartmann recommended, I don't support it. What I support is finding common ground with the grassroots, the ordinary folks who are suffering from current conditions. That ain't Grover Norquist. Maybe Jane's alliance with Grover isn't exactly what Hartmann had in mind but IMO she fulfills the spirit of Hartman's intention. Jane's populist message to hold corrupt politicians to account reaches across party lines. Even though it's via Grover, she has the ear of ordinary folks who are as sick of government corruption as we are and they admire can someone willing to break rank from their political ties to tell the truth. Hartman talks about finding common ground with the unschooled rabble in order to challenge corporate interests but Jane is the first person that I know of to actually do it. Good on her, as Thom would say. The fact that she is getting so much flack for her first foray into bipartisanship tells me she's onto something. The louder they yell at her, the better I like it. Jane is trying to reach a whole new audience with a message that says we are not the enemy and we need to work together to throw the bums out. One of Jane's bloggers had an inspiring story today Intelligence Report from Enemy Territory about a Christmas visit to her staunchly, Republican family. Following Jane's lead she was surprised to find common ground with her father, a true blue Glenn Beck fan. Excerpt: I just had Christmas dinner with my right wing family members and Jane has some new fans. Generally, political talk is not allowed at family gatherings, at least not the ones I am at, though the rest of them could cheer each others' opinions on all day. This Christmas, not only could we talk politics, we were on the same page. My dad is the farthest right and most vocal of the group. He's also the one who has given me every book Glenn Beck has ever written. I asked my dad if he had heard that Jane Hamsher and Grover Norquist had sent a joint letter to Holder asking for an investigation of Rahm Emanuel. He hadn't been plugged in, but was intrigued, so I told him more about it. He's now one of Jane's biggest fans. My dad won't sign her petition because he's afraid he'll get emails from lefties, but he wants me to keep him apprised of what FDL's doing on the issues we have common ground on and he made a donation through ActBlue. Read more: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/20907 As far as courage is concerned, it takes courage to step in front of a speeding ten-ton truck, but is it smart? Hyperbole, much? I think the jury is still out on whether or not Jane is killing off her credibility in the bloggesphere. I do notice however, her
[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt
If it were up to me, i'd not only be nice to him, but i'd give him citizenship and a decent job. After all, he only wanted to kill Americans because we are so evil and wrong ourselves, especially the Americans on the plane with him. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: I hope they were nice to him when they arrested him. Navy Seals are being court martialed for slugging the guy in the gut, that murdered Americans, burned them and hung them from a bridge.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 1957
1970 Maharishi's Year of Scientific Research First scientific research on Transcendental Meditation, identifying the physiological correlates of higher states of consciousness. With this research Transcendental Meditation gains worldwide publicity and inspires scientists throughout the world to research into the wide range of benefits resulting from Transcendental Meditation. 1969 Maharishi's Year of Supreme Consciousness Maharishi comments extensively on the Brahma Sutras, the texbook of Vedant, the aspect of Vedic literature which provides complete knowledge of Unity Consciousness, the pinnacle of human evolution. 1968 Maharishi's Year of Students Students International Meditation Society is founded in many countries. 1967 Maharishi's Year of Unity Consciousness Maharishi explains experiences of Transcendental Meditation in terms of Unity Consciousness. Maharishi inaugurates the first European Meditation Academy in Bremen, Germany 1966 Maharishi's Year of Academy of Meditation In the year of the great Kumbha Mela in Allahabad, India, Maharishi inaugurates the first International Academy of Meditation, Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh, India, with the second International Transcendental Meditation Teacher Training Course. 1965 Maharishi's Year of Bhagavad-Gita Maharishi explains expereiences of Transcendental Meditation in terms of the principle of action: Nishkama karma yog, yogastah kuru karmani; Established in Unity, perform action -Bhagavad-Gita II 45, and completes his commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. 1964 Maharishi's Year of God Consciousness Maharishi explains experiences of Transcendental Meditation in terms of the most refined state of Cosmic Consciousness -God Consciousness. 1963 Maharishi's Year of the Science of Being and Art of Living Maharishi presents a profound and practical philosophy of living for the modern scientific age. 1962 Maharishi's Year of Theory of the Absolute Maharishi brings to light the Theory of the Absolute and trains hundreds of Meditation Guides to help bring the direct experience of the absolute to people everywhere. 1961 Maharishi's Year of Teacher Training. Maharishi's inspiration to multiply himself by training teachers of Transcendental Meditation: the first international course is held in Rishikesh, India. 1960 Maharishi's Year of Cosmic Consciousness. Maharishi explains experiences of Transcendental Meditation in terms of Cosmic Consciousness. In London, Maharishi inaugurates his First Three Year Plan to spiritually regenerate the world. 1959 Maharishi's Year of Global Awakening Maharishi starts to teach Transcendental Meditation around the world. 1958 Maharishi's Year of Spiritual Regeneration Movement. Inspired to raise the quality of life in the world through the practice of Transcendental Meditation, Maharishi inaugurates the Spiritual Regeneration Movement to spiritually regenerate mankind. 1957 Maharishi's Year of Transcendental Meditation Maharishi evolves a simple, natural practice for the mind to come to a balanced state, and thereby gain the ability to spontaneously function in accord with all the laws of nature. This was the year of revival of Yog, philosophy and practice; this was the year of revival of Vedic wisdom for perfection in life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/northwest-bomb-plot-planned-al-qaeda-yemen/story?id=9426085 http://tinyurl.com/yk653lz Lots more details at the link, including that the packet of powder had been sewn to his underwear right next to his genitals, where it would be less likely to be discovered. Wonder how that will affect body-search procedures for men. Well, all I can say is, if they want folks to take of anything more than their shoes, short your airline stocks. Question is whether guys prefer visual to manual inspection, I should think. Can't wait for the late night jokes. Lot of jokes floating around already, in particular about what to call him. Nominations? Apparently he burned his balls pretty badly when he tried to set the thing off. Sorry, it's difficult to feel sympathetic about his self inflicted injuries. Um, no apology necessary by me.
[FairfieldLife] Rory O'Sullivan
This morning at 4:50 AM Rory O'Sullivan, son of Marian and Shawn, passed away after a long battle with cancer. His family and close friends were with him. Please light a candle for them. All love flowing to the O'Sullivan family.
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: A friend of mine who's now on Purusha had an experience like that on his TTC in Zinal, Switzerland. The story is at the end of this post, which I wrote 6 years ago: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17946 Now, I'd like to introduce the topic of extraterrestrials and see if we go anywhere with it. I'm not convinced the earth has been visited by extraterrestrials- not the current crop anyway-the trouble is they are all too humanoid to be credibly from another planet. If we were to start evolution again the chances of us ending up with humanoids is so staggeringly slim I really wouldn't advise putting any sort of bet on it. If people were abducted by 30 foot long helium breathing cuttlefish I'd be more convinced. The other big problem is the sort of distances they would be needing to cross to get here, they won't be doing that in silver foil discs like the one that crashed in Roswell. Doesn't mean there *isn't* a way of doing it but to come all this way and spend your time sticking things up peoples bottoms is a pretty weird way of carrying on. Maybe it's just their way of being friendly? Some alien abductions are real. I haven't a clue what cattle mutilations are all about. Evil aliens? I don't know. But they happen often, around the world, and no one can explain them. I think I can: Munchausen syndrome. A pathological need to get attention by pretending to be ill, or in our case abducted by aliens. Doesn't need to be consciously perpetrated either. In fact by way of disproving the AA scenario one of the leading researchers in the field had a cleint who had been abducted many times in the usual way but was observed to be asleep in her car by her partner, upon waking she reported the usual tale of being transported through walls [how?] and studied by humanoids in their ship. But the whole time she was visible to her partner! It's all in the mind. Had to be really. The abduction mythos has grown and changed hugely over the years. I think it's a kind of new religion for a sci-fi age, an idea that Greer does nothing to convince me of otherwise. In fact, I didn't watch much beyond his new age vision of man's future. Good luck to him, I hope the guy is right as contact with aliens would make my life (whether they are hostile or not) but on the evidence so far I'd say it ain't happening. Don't know about crop circles. Really nice ones have been faked. Not all have been explained away. I'll end with a story. On his TM TTC in Zinal, Switzerland, Sandy Tipton, who's on Purusha, was doing asanas on his floor one morning. He looked out the window and saw a disk shaped UFO hovering near the side of a high cliff not far from the hotel. It's interesting how the disc idea has developed, the first UFO report, Kenneth Arnolds 1947 sighting, wasn't of a disc but of crescent shaped craft with wedge tails flying in formation. It was a journalist that took his description of them flying like a saucer skipping over water to create the term flying saucer. Since that day it's been mostly discs reported (until recently but that's another story) but never crescent shapes. BTW Arnold probably saw a flock of pelicans. The vast majority of UFO sightings are mispercieved naturally occuring or man made objects, the latest triangle shapes are usually high altitude fighter planes with their re-fueling lights on, eery and silent. 90% of youtube UFO vids are chinese lanterns etc. One could almost say that the fact so many are easily identified that all others are simply similar mispercieved objects. But you really had to see one yourself to appreciate how weird it is to se something that you can't identify. I did, it was a large cigar shape hovering over my home town that froze my blood when I saw it because I couldn't see what it was, other than that it looked like every UFO pic I'd ever seen, friends of mine saw it and photographed it. Afetr a bit of research we found out it was the Goodyear blimp which lives at an airfield about 15 miles away. Didn't look like it to me, there were no markings or propellers that I could see. But that's the point, the mind plays tricks on us, especially at night. People make very bad witnesses. He sat by the window and watched it for quite a while as it moved around a bit. As bright daylight dawned, it flew away. That morning some people were talking about it at breakfast. When MMY came to the lecture hall, the first thing he asked was, How many woke up early this morning? Some people raised their hands. Then he asked, How many looked out the window? Hands raised. Then he chuckled and went on with the meeting. I heard a similar Marshy story about a UFO sighting on a european course where MMY heard about it and got into his car to go and investigate. Later during the evening meeting he said that UFOs come to earth to get water, but the cigar
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 2:29 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc Not much any of us can do but wait and see. Me, I am still not convinced that spaceships are involved at all. Given the vast distances involved, any race that still needed technology to move from one planet/ star to another is so unevolved as to be uninteresting IMO. My bet is that if we've ever had visitors, they just mentally project a kind of subtle body here, not necessarily a physical one. People catch glimpses of these subtle bodies from time to time but, having no intellectual framework for such things, think that what they are seeing must be physical. That's my theory, anyway. The UFO folks like Greer claim that the aliens use technologies that are sort of a combination of consciousness-based and physical - that they have mastered interdimentional travel.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Hugo richardhughes...@hotmail.com wrote: If people were abducted by 30 foot long helium breathing cuttlefish I'd be more convinced. The other big problem is the sort of distances they would be needing to cross to get here, they won't be doing that in silver foil discs like the one that crashed in Roswell. Doesn't mean there *isn't* a way of doing it but to come all this way and spend your time sticking things up peoples bottoms is a pretty weird way of carrying on. Maybe it's just their way of being friendly? Hugo, you don't get it. You're on a forum populated by people who were abducted by aliens, be it a guy who put people into computer programming and levitated before them or one who put them all in suits and dresses, made the men shave while he didn't shave or cut his hair. In the latter case, people often paid every last penny they could beg, borrow or steal to go to rundown hotels in Europe out of season while the hotels were being renovated. They were taught strange things. Taught to eat like cows then taught that eating like that was for cows. Taught about an alien culture, alien religion, taught an alien language which was said to once have been spoken by superior beings. Taught about how these aliens eons ago were had more advanced technology than we have today, only they fueled it all with cow dung. These people twitched, had involuntary girations of their heads, even got confined in mental institutions. Those who made it went about the countryside converting all who would listen to a belief in these aliens. They built flying saucer like edifices in which to practice the alien religion they learned. This group of people evolved into a group of people who dress like aliens and wear gold plated tin foil hats. They are lords and masters over dominions which exist only in concept. If belief in alien abductions is proper and believable anywhere, it is believable here on FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: snip The vast majority of UFO sightings are mispercieved naturally occuring or man made objects, the latest triangle shapes are usually high altitude fighter planes with their re-fueling lights on, eery and silent. FWIW, from my NYC apartment window I saw lots of big commercial jets fly over the top of my building. From time to time, I'd see one flying quite low in comparison to the normal altitude, due to weather or some other peculiarity of the flight pattern that day. My attention would be drawn to it because the engine noise was so loud. The boomerang formation of lights I saw from that window some years ago was the apparent width of two of those jets flying wingtip to wingtip at that altitude. Its apparent speed was much slower than that of such a plane, and I could hear no sound at all. If it had actually been flying much higher--which would account for the apparent slow speed and absence of engine noise--it would have had to be *gigantic*, Star Wars-size. IOW, definitively not a high-altitude fighter plane. It *could* have been seven (or five, can't remember how many lights there were) helicopters, each bearing a very bright spotlight, connected by some sort of frame to rigidly maintain their relative position. That would account for the apparent size and speed. But they would have to have been flying so low that their motors would have been distinctly audible (a larger frame would not have been rigid enough to keep them from moving relative to each other).
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: Hugo, you don't get it. You're on a forum populated by people who were abducted by aliens, be it a guy who put people into computer programming and levitated before them or one who put them all in suits and dresses, made the men shave while he didn't shave or cut his hair. In the latter case, people often paid every last penny they could beg, borrow or steal to go to rundown hotels in Europe out of season while the hotels were being renovated. They were taught strange things. Taught to eat like cows then taught that eating like that was for cows. Taught about an alien culture, alien religion, taught an alien language which was said to once have been spoken by superior beings. Taught about how these aliens eons ago were had more advanced technology than we have today, only they fueled it all with cow dung. These people twitched, had involuntary girations of their heads, even got confined in mental institutions. Those who made it went about the countryside converting all who would listen to a belief in these aliens. They built flying saucer like edifices in which to practice the alien religion they learned. This group of people evolved into a group of people who dress like aliens and wear gold plated tin foil hats. They are lords and masters over dominions which exist only in concept. If belief in alien abductions is proper and believable anywhere, it is believable here on FFL. That tickled me!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 1957
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: 1970 Maharishi's Year of Scientific Research First scientific research on Transcendental Meditation, identifying the physiological correlates of higher states of consciousness. With this research Transcendental Meditation gains worldwide publicity and inspires scientists throughout the world to research into the wide range of benefits resulting from Transcendental Meditation. Nice
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: I heard a similar Marshy story about a UFO sighting on a european course where MMY heard about it and got into his car to go and investigate. Later during the evening meeting he said that UFOs come to earth to get water, but the cigar shaped ones are the bad guys, the garbage men of the universe and we should stay away from them! I doubt this story very much. Maharishi driving off then claiming that the Space Brothers need water ?? HoHa ! Do you have a direct quote ? That someone who is now on Purusha said it won't do.
[FairfieldLife] Dr Steven Greer on the so-called alien abductions
From the briefing Dr Greer gave President Obama: ...We are also morally obliged to warn you of an existing highly secretive plan to use advanced technologies to hoax an 'alien attack' on Earth. There exists within the direct control of this Majestic group assets capable of launching such a false flag operation and virtually every person on Earth, as well as most leaders, would be deceived by it. Components of this operation have been tested on the public over the past 50 years and include, but are not limited to: * Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs) - these are advanced anti-gravity aircraft that have been fully operational since at least the late 1950s to early 1960s. Many so-called UFO reports by civilians and military personnel are of such ARVs. They constitute an unacknowledged or 'black' Air Force and these ARVs are capable of extraordinary speed, maneuverability and lift/hover. By 2009, these technologies had gone through many generations of refinement and, if deployed, could easily hoax or simulate an Extraterrestrial Vehicle (ETV). (Note that a UFO is a nonspecific term and could be either an ARV or an ETV.) * Programmed Life Forms (PLFs) - these are well-crafted alien-appearing creatures that, while completely manmade, often deceive unknowing people as 'aliens'. The stagecraft, genetics and other sciences associated with these creatures are beyond the scope of this brief, but are very well developed. I have personally been briefed by multiple independent corroborating sources regarding the development and deployment of PLFs. These creatures, used in conjunction with ARVs, have convincingly launched the pop culture fervor over 'alien abductions'. Victims of such paramilitary human-controlled abductions genuinely believe that they have been abducted by 'aliens' and often have physical stigmata and 'implants' to prove it. These implants are also manmade and we have information about the laboratory and corporation making these items. (See attached documents) Full text here: http://www.disclosureproject.org/EmailUpdateOctober242009.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: snip The vast majority of UFO sightings are mispercieved naturally occuring or man made objects, the latest triangle shapes are usually high altitude fighter planes with their re-fueling lights on, eery and silent. FWIW, from my NYC apartment window I saw lots of big commercial jets fly over the top of my building. From time to time, I'd see one flying quite low in comparison to the normal altitude, due to weather or some other peculiarity of the flight pattern that day. My attention would be drawn to it because the engine noise was so loud. The boomerang formation of lights I saw from that window some years ago was the apparent width of two of those jets flying wingtip to wingtip at that altitude. Its apparent speed was much slower than that of such a plane, and I could hear no sound at all. If it had actually been flying much higher--which would account for the apparent slow speed and absence of engine noise--it would have had to be *gigantic*, Star Wars-size. IOW, definitively not a high-altitude fighter plane. It *could* have been seven (or five, can't remember how many lights there were) helicopters, each bearing a very bright spotlight, connected by some sort of frame to rigidly maintain their relative position. That would account for the apparent size and speed. But they would have to have been flying so low that their motors would have been distinctly audible (a larger frame would not have been rigid enough to keep them from moving relative to each other). I've seen UFO's several time but not as close and huge as this one in september in Berlin this year. It was rectangular, flat, size of a football-field, fully lit mooving slowly 2-3 hundred yards up in the air. I saw it together with my girlfriend who is a lawyer and has no interest in the subject whatsoever. Probably the first time in her life she simple could not rationalize away something out of the ordinary. As it happens Robby Williams rescently confirmed on a TV-show that he saw exactly the same kind of ship.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dr Steven Greer on the so-called alien abductions
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:12 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: From the briefing Dr Greer gave President Obama: I'd expect nothing less from a TM Teacher. As I said before, they were abducted by aliens to go learn alien things. Which things they learned to be so proud of and keep secret from us lower than whale shit citizens of the Age of Enlightenment. They belonge(d) to a movement which has a lot in common with Dr. Greer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr Steven Greer on the so-called alien abductions
Wow. The do.rk has bought into Greer hook, line, and sinker, Programmed Life Forms and all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: From the briefing Dr Greer gave President Obama: ...We are also morally obliged to warn you of an existing highly secretive plan to use advanced technologies to hoax an 'alien attack' on Earth. There exists within the direct control of this Majestic group assets capable of launching such a false flag operation and virtually every person on Earth, as well as most leaders, would be deceived by it. Components of this operation have been tested on the public over the past 50 years and include, but are not limited to: * Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs) - these are advanced anti-gravity aircraft that have been fully operational since at least the late 1950s to early 1960s. Many so-called UFO reports by civilians and military personnel are of such ARVs. They constitute an unacknowledged or 'black' Air Force and these ARVs are capable of extraordinary speed, maneuverability and lift/hover. By 2009, these technologies had gone through many generations of refinement and, if deployed, could easily hoax or simulate an Extraterrestrial Vehicle (ETV). (Note that a UFO is a nonspecific term and could be either an ARV or an ETV.) * Programmed Life Forms (PLFs) - these are well-crafted alien-appearing creatures that, while completely manmade, often deceive unknowing people as 'aliens'. The stagecraft, genetics and other sciences associated with these creatures are beyond the scope of this brief, but are very well developed. I have personally been briefed by multiple independent corroborating sources regarding the development and deployment of PLFs. These creatures, used in conjunction with ARVs, have convincingly launched the pop culture fervor over 'alien abductions'. Victims of such paramilitary human-controlled abductions genuinely believe that they have been abducted by 'aliens' and often have physical stigmata and 'implants' to prove it. These implants are also manmade and we have information about the laboratory and corporation making these items. (See attached documents) Full text here: http://www.disclosureproject.org/EmailUpdateOctober242009.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: snip I heard a similar Marshy story about a UFO sighting on a european course where MMY heard about it and got into his car to go and investigate. Later during the evening meeting he said that UFOs come to earth to get water, but the cigar shaped ones are the bad guys, the garbage men of the universe and we should stay away from them! I thought staying away from the cigar-shaped ones was Charlie Lutes's line. I've heard several versions of this story. In one of them, a CP had been doing yoga on his balcony at dawn and saw a UFO hovering over the lake (this was in Switzerland; Lake Lucerne?), with a sort of hose or tube extended down into the water. As this guy watched, MMY came out of the hotel alone, walked to the lake, and stood silently in front of the UFO for several minutes as if communing with it, then turned around and went back to the hotel. Asked about this later, MMY said UFOs were the vacuum cleaners of the universe. Presumably this was to explain the hose... I prefer Rick's story about MMY's asking how many had been up early and looked out their window, then chuckling and changing the subject.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 1:17 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc I've heard several versions of this story. In one of them, a CP had been doing yoga on his balcony at dawn and saw a UFO hovering over the lake (this was in Switzerland; Lake Lucerne?), with a sort of hose or tube extended down into the water. As this guy watched, MMY came out of the hotel alone, walked to the lake, and stood silently in front of the UFO for several minutes as if communing with it, then turned around and went back to the hotel. As I heard this story, it was in Mallorca, and John Black was supposed to have driven him down to the seaside, where this allegedly took place. I don't think it was a tube extending to the water, but some sort of energy beam. Asked about this later, MMY said UFOs were the vacuum cleaners of the universe. Presumably this was to explain the hose... I heard (through rumor) the phrase truck drivers of the universe, as if to dissuade TM teachers from thinking that these beings were necessarily highly evolved.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt
Well the American Circus clowns go crazier and crazier. If Al-CIAda was really behind this it worked well. Didn't even have to kill anyone to make Americans go crazy and officials establish lame ass flying rules. Brian Copeland, a Bay Area comedian, has his own Sunday morning show on San Francisco's biggest radio station KGO. His show this morning on the topic is a pretty good take on the silliness of a lot of this and a recommended hear: http://members.kgoradio.com/kgo_archives/archives.php?d=0 Select either listen or download for the 9 AM and 10 AM show. Bhairitu wrote: Better hope you don't have a diarrhea attack within an hour of landing on your next plane flight. The airlines goofy over this alleged bombing attempt have implemented a rule that an hour before landing you can't leave your seat. Apparently some are even saying you can't even have any carry-on items in your lap during that time. Really shows you the intelligence of management of the airlines which is why they are doing so poorly. They kowtow to the security theater people who dream up this kind of stuff. As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he has no real connection to any terrorist group especially Al-Qaeda but is just a nut case. That is apparently what his dad fears. But the fascists will use any excuse to put fear into the public to control them. My bet is that airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules. http://tinyurl.com/y8alwmc
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: [I wrote:] I've heard several versions of this story. In one of them, a CP had been doing yoga on his balcony at dawn and saw a UFO hovering over the lake (this was in Switzerland; Lake Lucerne?), with a sort of hose or tube extended down into the water. As this guy watched, MMY came out of the hotel alone, walked to the lake, and stood silently in front of the UFO for several minutes as if communing with it, then turned around and went back to the hotel. [Rick wrote:] As I heard this story, it was in Mallorca, and John Black was supposed to have driven him down to the seaside, where this allegedly took place. I don't think it was a tube extending to the water, but some sort of energy beam. [I wrote:] Asked about this later, MMY said UFOs were the vacuum cleaners of the universe. Presumably this was to explain the hose... [Rick wrote:] I heard (through rumor) the phrase truck drivers of the universe, as if to dissuade TM teachers from thinking that these beings were necessarily highly evolved. I love the way the story has morphed in the retelling, with some details changing while others stay the same, or at least very similar (truck drivers, garbage collectors, vacuum cleaners...). Is the Mallorca version the same occasion as the one you reported where MMY asked how many people were up early and looked out the window? Or was there more than one such incident?
[FairfieldLife] All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspective
All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspectiveby Norbrook http://norbrook.dailykos.com/ - Dec 26, 2009 Thursday, I wrote a diary entitled Damn, that's an ugly baby! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/24/818769/-Damn,-Thats-An-Ugly-Ba\ by%21 As the battle over the healthcare legislation in Congress continues, I thought it would be helpful to remember that this isn't the end of the process. Many laws that today we consider signature pieces of legislation were actually very ugly at the beginning. The important thing is to remember that they were the beginning. Why is it important? Let's switch to another concern: Climate change. Recently the EPA announced plans to regulate greenhouse gases as a health hazard. A quick scan of the news shows that this is unwelcome to corporations and Republicans. But no one says that the EPA can't regulate it - the debate is whether it should. Why is that remarkable, and what lessons does that have for HCR? If you ask most environmentalists today about which laws were landmarks, one of the answers will be the Clean Air Act of 1970 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Air_Act_1970 . It was the law that established the air quality standards, and the power to regulate emissions. A remarkable achievement, which has led to much better air quality. Except, the title of the law isn't the Clean Air Act. The actual title of the 1970 act is: The Clean Air Act Extension of 1970. An Act to amend the Clean Air Act to provide for a more effective program to improve the quality of the Nation's air. (emphasis mine) That's right. One of the landmark environmental laws wasn't written as a new law. It was written to amend an existing law. That it was a complete re-write of the law, for all intents and purposes a new law, does not change the fact that the Clean Air Act was already the law. The first legislation about air pollution was the Air Pollution Control Act of 1955. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Pollution_Control_Act This law really didn't do much. It had no enforcement provisions. It simply directed the Surgeon General to to conduct research, investigate, and pass out information relating to air pollution and the prevention and abatement thereof. If you look at it, it's a very weak law. It still regards air pollution regulation as a local or state responsibility, not a national one. Why would we ever think this law was important? As weak and pathetic as this law looks today, it's important because it did something else: It reserved to Congress the right to control this problem. It established the principle that Congress could pass laws relating to air pollution - in effect, turning what had been a strictly local or state responsibility into a federal responsibility. That air pollution is a cross-border problem, and controlling it should be a federal responsibility seems blindingly obvious today, but it wasn't then. In 1963 http://www.ametsoc.org/sloan/cleanair/cleanairlegisl.html#caa63 , the actual Clean Air Act was passed. It wasn't very strong either. It granted $95 million over a three year period to state and local governments and air pollution control agencies in order to conduct research and create control programs. This act also recognized the dangers of motor vehicle exhaust, and it encouraged the development of emissions standards from these sources as well as from stationary sources. Interstate air pollution from the use of high sulfur coal and oil also needed to be reduced; therefore, this act encouraged the use of technology which removed sulfur from these fuels. To continue action in this area, the Clean Air Act promoted ongoing research, investigations, surveys, and experiments Notice something? It's still considered the states' responsibility to regulate or control air pollution. There's no federal regulatory or enforcement capability built in. It's reads as an expanded version of the 1955 law. It's weak, toothless, and doesn't seem to be doing much except to add motor vehicles exhaust to the mix, and increase funding. It would be ignored, considered a failure, except for one thing: Every other clean air act is an amendment to this law. It's the basis of what we have today. The amendments came in rapid succession: The Motor Vehicle Air Pollution Control Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Vehicle_Air_Pollution_Control_Act in 1965, which set vehicle emissions standards. The Air Quality Act of 1967, which for set national1970 Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Air_Act_%281970%29 , which many consider the real act, which not only set new standards and federal powers, it gave a new agency - the Environmental Protection Agency - its authority to act. standards for emissions, and set a timetable for meeting them. Then the 54 years ago, a weak, flawed piece of legislation was passed. It didn't do anything to control air pollution. It didn't set any standards. It didn't have enforcement
[FairfieldLife] Re: All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspective
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspectiveby Norbrook http://norbrook.dailykos.com/ - Dec 26, 2009 snip 54 years ago, a weak, flawed piece of legislation was passed. It didn't do anything to control air pollution. It didn't set any standards. It didn't have enforcement built into it. It didn't even have a lot of funding. 8 years later, another piece of legislation was passed. It wasn't much better. But they were the beginning. As weak and toothless as these laws were, they set into law the principles that enabled the 1970 law. So we should expect to wait another 15 years before we get a decent health reform bill?
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 1:17 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc I've heard several versions of this story. In one of them, a CP had been doing yoga on his balcony at dawn and saw a UFO hovering over the lake (this was in Switzerland; Lake Lucerne?), with a sort of hose or tube extended down into the water. As this guy watched, MMY came out of the hotel alone, walked to the lake, and stood silently in front of the UFO for several minutes as if communing with it, then turned around and went back to the hotel. As I heard this story, it was in Mallorca, and John Black was supposed to have driven him down to the seaside, where this allegedly took place. I don't think it was a tube extending to the water, but some sort of energy beam. Asked about this later, MMY said UFOs were the vacuum cleaners of the universe. Presumably this was to explain the hose... This makes sense, though I doubt they need a hose. ;-) Benjamin Creme claims that without the help of our Space Brothers this Earth would long ago have been uninhabitated due to nuclear waste contaminating the earth, air and water as well as the subtler regions. I heard (through rumor) the phrase truck drivers of the universe, as if to dissuade TM teachers from thinking that these beings were necessarily highly evolved. Thats definately the case for some of them, without whom we probably would not be alive today. Please note that spaceships come here from many quarters of the universe though those from Mars and Venus are most common. Maharishi also said: In this scientific age no one believes in UFO's... but if you see one don't enter it :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cti1D0kC29sfeature=fvw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PnHvsikO4feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3zotvpZLnYfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djGk2A7ngtofeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: I hope they were nice to him when they arrested him. Navy Seals are being court martialed for slugging the guy in the gut, that murdered Americans, burned them and hung them from a bridge.  From: Bhairitu noozg...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 26, 2009 1:28:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt  Better hope you don't have a diarrhea attack within an hour of landing on your next plane flight. The airlines goofy over this alleged bombing attempt have implemented a rule that an hour before landing you can't leave your seat. Apparently some are even saying you can't even have any carry-on items in your lap during that time. Really shows you the intelligence of management of the airlines which is why they are doing so poorly. They kowtow to the security theater people who dream up this kind of stuff. As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he has no real connection to any terrorist group especially Al-Qaeda but is just a nut case. That is apparently what his dad fears. But the fascists will use any excuse to put fear into the public to control them. My bet is that airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules. http://tinyurl. com/y8alwmc where is the publication on the hour wait on plans after landing??? but maybe your right about him just being a nut case. after all people who strap explosives to there legs and then try to ste them of an oaircraft are a little nutty. but there brain damage is explained by their extreamism, what is you excuse?...nut x10.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt
Bhairitu wrote: But the fascists will use any excuse to put fear into the public to control them... So, the U.S. government is your enemy, not the radical terrorists who want to kill you.
[FairfieldLife] Original Social Security legislation very different from today's
Having gotten the initial 'foot in the door' by passing the Social Security Act of 1935 against against a similar viscious opposition to that we see to the current Senate Healthcare Reform Bill, Congress has subsequently refined, vastly improved and expanded that original Social Security Act. Take a look at the history: List of Social Security legislation (United States) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Social_Security_legislation_%28Uni\ ted_States%29#column-one , search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Social_Security_legislation_%28Uni\ ted_States%29#searchInput * 1935 - Social Security Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Act , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 74-271 * 1939 - Social Security Amendments of 1939, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 76-379 * 1942 - Revenue Act of 1942 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1942 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 77-753 * 1943 - Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 78-211 * 1943 - Revenue Act of 1943 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1943 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 78-235 * 1945 - Federal Insurance Contributions Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Insurance_Contributions_Act , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 78-495 * 1945 - Revenue Act of 1945 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1945 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 79-214 * 1946 - Social Security Amendments of 1946, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 79-719 * 1947 - Social Security Amendments of 1947, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 80-379 * 1948 - Provision for Exclusion of Certain Newspaper and Magazine Vendors from Social Security Coverage, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 80-492 * 1948 - Provision to Maintain Status Quo Concept of Employee, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 80-642 * 1950 - Social Security Amendments of 1950, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 81-734 * 1952 - Social Security Amendments of 1952, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 82-590 * 1954 - Social Security Amendments of 1954, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 83-761 * 1956 - Social Security Amendments of 1956, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 84-880 * 1958 - Social Security Amendments of 1958, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 85-840 * 1960 - Social Security Amendments of 1960, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 86-778 * 1961 - Social Security Amendments of 1961, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 87-64 * 1965 - Social Security Amendments of 1965 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Act_of_1965 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 89-97 * 1966 - Tax Adjustment Act of 1966 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tax_Adjustment_Act_of_1966ac\ tion=editredlink=1 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 89-368 * 1967 - Social Security Act Amendments, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 90-248 * 1969 - Tax Reform Act of 1969 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Reform_Act_of_1969 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 91-172 * 1971 - Social Security Amendments, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 92-5 * 1972 - Social Security Amendments, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 92-336 * 1972 - Social Security Amendments of 1972 (Supplemental Security Income), Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 92-603 * 1973 - Social Security Benefits Increase, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 93-233 * 1977 - Social Security Amendments of 1977, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 95-216 * 1980 - Social Security Disability Amendments of 1980, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 96-265 * 1980 - Reallocation of Social Security Taxes Between OASI and DI Trust Funds, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 96-403 * 1980 - Retirement Test Amendments, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 96-473 * 1981 - Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation\
[FairfieldLife] Re: Original Social Security legislation very different from today's
I am in total amazement, John, that you invoke the history of Social Security as some sort of GOOD thing. When it first started, FDR gave his solemn promise that contributions would never exceed 1% of earnings (or 1 1/2 %, can't remember exactly what the quote was). Well, 75 years later and we pay in employee and employer contributions more than 10 times that amount (about 12.3%) on about the first $103,000 of adjusted gross income. Once government got their sticky hands on it, it became the behemoth it is today (SS is the largest single area of spending by the federal government). There are similar horror stories with Medicare and how it was originally introduced to the gullible American voters... So, why are you spouting this stuff as some sort of POSITIVE thing? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Having gotten the initial 'foot in the door' by passing the Social Security Act of 1935 against against a similar viscious opposition to that we see to the current Senate Healthcare Reform Bill, Congress has subsequently refined, vastly improved and expanded that original Social Security Act. Take a look at the history: List of Social Security legislation (United States) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Social_Security_legislation_%28Uni\ ted_States%29#column-one , search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Social_Security_legislation_%28Uni\ ted_States%29#searchInput * 1935 - Social Security Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Act , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 74-271 * 1939 - Social Security Amendments of 1939, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 76-379 * 1942 - Revenue Act of 1942 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1942 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 77-753 * 1943 - Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 78-211 * 1943 - Revenue Act of 1943 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1943 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 78-235 * 1945 - Federal Insurance Contributions Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Insurance_Contributions_Act , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 78-495 * 1945 - Revenue Act of 1945 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1945 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 79-214 * 1946 - Social Security Amendments of 1946, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 79-719 * 1947 - Social Security Amendments of 1947, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 80-379 * 1948 - Provision for Exclusion of Certain Newspaper and Magazine Vendors from Social Security Coverage, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 80-492 * 1948 - Provision to Maintain Status Quo Concept of Employee, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 80-642 * 1950 - Social Security Amendments of 1950, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 81-734 * 1952 - Social Security Amendments of 1952, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 82-590 * 1954 - Social Security Amendments of 1954, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 83-761 * 1956 - Social Security Amendments of 1956, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 84-880 * 1958 - Social Security Amendments of 1958, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 85-840 * 1960 - Social Security Amendments of 1960, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 86-778 * 1961 - Social Security Amendments of 1961, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 87-64 * 1965 - Social Security Amendments of 1965 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Act_of_1965 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 89-97 * 1966 - Tax Adjustment Act of 1966 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tax_Adjustment_Act_of_1966ac\ tion=editredlink=1 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 89-368 * 1967 - Social Security Act Amendments, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 90-248 * 1969 - Tax Reform Act of 1969 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Reform_Act_of_1969 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 91-172 * 1971 - Social Security Amendments, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 92-5 * 1972 - Social Security Amendments, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 92-336 * 1972 -
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Christmas Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Very nice, thanks for posting this Rick. In fact Maharishi was very clear that if the Sidhas did not respond quickly and went to Femahrn during Christmas a war would start. But I'm unsure to the Colone's details as I remember that the Soviets wanted to invade Poland because of the unrest created by Lech Walesa and the workers there, that they marched up several divisions of tanks on the Polish/Soviet border that was nutralized by huge amounts of snow only days after the course in Femahrn started; with such amounts of snow even tanks could not move. But let the historians sort this out. I doubt the Soviets would dare to attack West-Germany knowing that that would be a start of a new huge war. What they did not know was that the Western countries would not allow the Soviets to invade Poland and the consequences would be the same as invading West-Germany. I also heard that after the course Maharishi said We avoided world war III (words from memory, not quote) ...and suckers like Nabby actually believed him. And you wonder why the Movement is the great failure it is today? This is why. The wonderful thing about TM is that it does indeed pruduce benefits such as those described above but the most precious TM benefit of all is that one never had to claim such benefits in order to get them. Ironically, it is only by suggesting that such benefits occur that is the single greatest guarantee we won't get them because to do so means that less people will meditate BECAUSE THEY VIEW US AS FUCKING CRAZY IDIOTS. Nabby: when will you realize that it is you and people like you that destroyed the TMO? And that, by extension, you INCREASED the chance for war and suffering in the world? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A Christmas Story Germany's Colonel Gunter Chasse, a longtime Meditator, recently related a wonderful Christmas memory. He explained what led to the planned invasion of West Germany by the Warsaw Pact armies in December 1978. Colonel Chasse illustrated the political and military build-up with maps, and showed documents confirming the decision of the Warsaw Pact armies to invade West Germany at Christmas. Colonel Chasse then showed how Maharishi, being aware of the pending conflict, chose the island of Fehmarn - in the Baltic Sea between East and West Germany where the Warsaw Pact fleet would attempt to pass out to the Atlantic - as the strategic location of a course for 1, 500 Meditators with the advanced TM-Sidhis Program, who traveled and gathered on the island of Fehmarn at that time and meditated together in that one location, creating an invisible, but invincible armour of protection for the entire area. During the time of the course, the surrounding areas had the biggest snowstorms in decades; the storms spread from Fehmarn concentrically to East and West Germany. The highways and railways were all blocked, and the Baltic Sea froze. As a result, the army and navy could not attack. But both the East and West German armies were put to positive use - in an atmosphere of great cordiality - in bringing food and medical supplies to a huge number of villages and farms stranded by the snowstorms. Colonel Chasse related that this was the turning point of the Cold War: from then on relations between East and West Germany began to melt. It was a powerful example of Maharishi's programs of 'Invincible Defence' preventing a catastrophic war at the last possible moment, possibly averting the danger of World War III. What started out as an invasion, resulted in the spirit of giving. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. MAY 2010 BE YOUR BEST YEAR YET! Garry, Helen, and the Maharishi Invincibility Centre - Victoria Teaching the Transcendental Meditation Program
[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt
Doug wrote: Though do have to worry about this doubting 'bhairitu' guy. With a foreign handle like that trying to absolve these terrorist guys, have to wonder what his interest is... Maybe 'Bhairitu' would like to explain why he is always taking up for the terrorists. It really makes you wonder what's up with people like that. It doesn't make any sense to me - I guess he's really scared and paranoid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhairitu calls Obama and his administration fascists
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: ShempMcGurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: ShempMcGurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: [snip] But the fascists will use any excuse to put fear into the public to control them. [snip] I don't think that's quite fair of you, Bhairitu, to be calling Barack Obama and his administration fascists. Reread my post. I said the WH (that's for White House in case you don't know) jumped the gun. Yes, hold their damn feet to the fire. They asked us to. In the context I mentioned it was more the government agencies I addressed as fascists. Nope. The president runs the government. He is the big cheese and is responsible for all actions by those under him and, as the article stated, it was the decision of the White House to do the one hour thing. Nah, it's their idea of making it look like they're doing something. You aren't paying attention. I haven't been cutting Barrack a lot of slack lately. Tyranny is tyranny regardless of what side the aisle it is on. You only seem to want to call it out if it is on the aisle opposite yours. And the flight attendant said the last hour is when everyone wants to puke, pee or shit so it isn't going to fly (pardon the pun). Some of you need to evolve more so you can really see the games being played. I would have expected even TM to give you that ability years ago. But I suspect if you were a collie or a tabby in your last life it might be a little difficult. Two concepts for you to ponder, Bhairitu: 1) Respondeat superior (latin for let the master answer). See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior 2) The buck stops here -- the little placard President Truman kept on his desk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Original Social Security legislation very different from today's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: I am in total amazement, John, that you invoke the history of Social Security as some sort of GOOD thing. When it first started, FDR gave his solemn promise that contributions would never exceed 1% of earnings (or 1 1/2 %, can't remember exactly what the quote was). Well, 75 years later and we pay in employee and employer contributions more than 10 times that amount (about 12.3%) on about the first $103,000 of adjusted gross income. Once government got their sticky hands on it, it became the behemoth it is today (SS is the largest single area of spending by the federal government). There are similar horror stories with Medicare and how it was originally introduced to the gullible American voters... So, why are you spouting this stuff as some sort of POSITIVE thing? Your views on Social Security as a bad thing are shared primarily by the right wing fringe minority. Oh wait! ...you DO belong to the right wing fringe minority! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Having gotten the initial 'foot in the door' by passing the Social Security Act of 1935 against against a similar viscious opposition to that we see to the current Senate Healthcare Reform Bill, Congress has subsequently refined, vastly improved and expanded that original Social Security Act. Take a look at the history: List of Social Security legislation (United States) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Social_Security_legislation_%28Uni\ ted_States%29#column-one , search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Social_Security_legislation_%28Uni\ ted_States%29#searchInput * 1935 - Social Security Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Act , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 74-271 * 1939 - Social Security Amendments of 1939, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 76-379 * 1942 - Revenue Act of 1942 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1942 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 77-753 * 1943 - Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 78-211 * 1943 - Revenue Act of 1943 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1943 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 78-235 * 1945 - Federal Insurance Contributions Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Insurance_Contributions_Act , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 78-495 * 1945 - Revenue Act of 1945 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1945 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 79-214 * 1946 - Social Security Amendments of 1946, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 79-719 * 1947 - Social Security Amendments of 1947, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 80-379 * 1948 - Provision for Exclusion of Certain Newspaper and Magazine Vendors from Social Security Coverage, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 80-492 * 1948 - Provision to Maintain Status Quo Concept of Employee, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 80-642 * 1950 - Social Security Amendments of 1950, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 81-734 * 1952 - Social Security Amendments of 1952, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 82-590 * 1954 - Social Security Amendments of 1954, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 83-761 * 1956 - Social Security Amendments of 1956, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 84-880 * 1958 - Social Security Amendments of 1958, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 85-840 * 1960 - Social Security Amendments of 1960, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 86-778 * 1961 - Social Security Amendments of 1961, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 87-64 * 1965 - Social Security Amendments of 1965 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Act_of_1965 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 89-97 * 1966 - Tax Adjustment Act of 1966 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tax_Adjustment_Act_of_1966ac\ tion=editredlink=1 , Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 89-368 * 1967 - Social Security Act Amendments, Pub.L. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_law_%28United_States%29 90-248 * 1969 - Tax Reform Act of 1969
[FairfieldLife] Re: All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspective
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspectiveby Norbrook http://norbrook.dailykos.com/ - Dec 26, 2009 snip 54 years ago, a weak, flawed piece of legislation was passed. It didn't do anything to control air pollution. It didn't set any standards. It didn't have enforcement built into it. It didn't even have a lot of funding. 8 years later, another piece of legislation was passed. It wasn't much better. But they were the beginning. As weak and toothless as these laws were, they set into law the principles that enabled the 1970 law. So we should expect to wait another 15 years before we get a decent health reform bill? Pigs fly every 15 years if you smoke enough hopium, doncha know. Obama's HCR apologists ignore the facts at their peril. This bill is such a sink hole no one will ever dig out of it. By the time the hopey dopey folks come down from their high, their employers will have dropped their group plans, they will have been forced to pay for high deductible junk insurance on top of ever increasing premiums and they will have no leverage as individuals to find a competitive plan, since competitive plans don't exist without a public option. To top it off, if they can't afford to pay the mandated premiums they will pay tax penalties and they still won't have health insurance. Guess what? In the Senate bill, which will probably prevail over the House bill in conference, many of the rotten provisions won't go into effect until 2013, right after the start of Obama's lame duck second term. Sweet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Original Social Security legislation very different from today's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Having gotten the initial 'foot in the door' by passing the Social Security Act of 1935 against against a similar viscious opposition to that we see to the current Senate Healthcare Reform Bill, Congress has subsequently refined, vastly improved and expanded that original Social Security Act. Take a look at the history: Again: How long will it take to get a refined, vastly improved and expanded health reform bill? Posting lengthy, decades-long histories of bills that were improved bit by painful bit is NOT a convincing argument for passing a deeply flawed bill that leaves so many urgent needs unfilled. When you're out in the bitter cold freezing to death, getting a foot in the door isn't much help if the door won't open wide enough for you to actually squeeze yourself inside for many years. And God help you if the Republicans manage to come to power again because folks are so unhappy with the Democrats for failing to pass a decent bill, because the Republicans are liable to slam the door shut on your foot. (We all need to stop using simplistic aphorisms like Let's get a foot in the door and Half a loaf is better than none and You can't lose sight of the forest for the trees and Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. They serve as thought-stoppers to obscure the specifics at the heart of the issue.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to alleged bombing attempt
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/northwest-bomb-plot-planned-al-qaeda-yemen/story?id=9426085 http://tinyurl.com/yk653lz Lots more details at the link, including that the packet of powder had been sewn to his underwear right next to his genitals, where it would be less likely to be discovered. Wonder how that will affect body-search procedures for men. Well, all I can say is, if they want folks to take of anything more than their shoes, short your airline stocks. Question is whether guys prefer visual to manual inspection, I should think. Manual inspection, of course. Aussiebum underwear required. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNsy1GVN6Mofeature=fvw Can't wait for the late night jokes. Lot of jokes floating around already, in particular about what to call him. Nominations? Flaming Asshole Apparently he burned his balls pretty badly when he tried to set the thing off. Sorry, it's difficult to feel sympathetic about his self inflicted injuries. Um, no apology necessary by me. Songs and lyrics: Great Balls of Fire Chestnuts roasting on an open fire I'm Too Sexy For My Pants Come on Baby, Light My Fire
[FairfieldLife] Re: All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspective
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspectiveby Norbrook http://norbrook.dailykos.com/ - Dec 26, 2009 snip 54 years ago, a weak, flawed piece of legislation was passed. It didn't do anything to control air pollution. It didn't set any standards. It didn't have enforcement built into it. It didn't even have a lot of funding. 8 years later, another piece of legislation was passed. It wasn't much better. But they were the beginning. As weak and toothless as these laws were, they set into law the principles that enabled the 1970 law. So we should expect to wait another 15 years before we get a decent health reform bill? Pigs fly every 15 years if you smoke enough hopium, doncha know. Obama's HCR apologists ignore the facts at their peril. This bill is such a sink hole no one will ever dig out of it. By the time the hopey dopey folks come down from their high, their employers will have dropped their group plans, they will have been forced to pay for high deductible junk insurance on top of ever increasing premiums and they will have no leverage as individuals to find a competitive plan, since competitive plans don't exist without a public option. To top it off, if they can't afford to pay the mandated premiums they will pay tax penalties and they still won't have health insurance. Guess what? In the Senate bill, which will probably prevail over the House bill in conference, many of the rotten provisions won't go into effect until 2013, right after the start of Obama's lame duck second term. Sweet. I don't think anyone is going to kill the bill. I believe that most rational Dems recognize that considering the realities of the current political make up of Congress what has been accomplished is a major, significent step forward in a decades long history of failed attempts to get anywhere on such a scale with health care legislation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspective
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:37 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think anyone is going to kill the bill. I believe that most rational Dems recognize that considering the realities of the current political make up of Congress what has been accomplished is a major, significent step forward in a decades long history of failed attempts to get anywhere on such a scale with health care legislation. Why does anyone still bother to reply to RD? I'm thinking of creating a spam filter for her, as she's like a broken record. Over and over again, that bastard who stole the election from her fellow traveler Lesbo-Nazi Hilary is no good. He's played us all along. Mein Gott. Over and over and over again. OK, the bill is flawed. But getting the foot in the door is the first step when it comes to contentious legislation. I posted months ago what LBJ would have done. But LBJ, if he were president today, would not have been able to trade pens, tours of the White House and appearances in MCs' home states when running for re-election to get the MCs to go his way with such very powerful money involved. Remember, LBJ at the very least was the benefactor (perhaps co-conspirator?) of powerful big money getting JFK out of the way. He didn't have to fight big money in Congress. LBJ was also the benefactor of a change in consciousness with respect to Civil Rights. The southerners were so embarassed by the killings, the way the blacks appeared in the media being clubbed down, LBJ didn't have so hard a time of it getting the legislation he's most noted for passed. Also, he played upon the grief of a nation in mourning. Not unlike Dubya.
[FairfieldLife] Re: All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspective
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspectiveby Norbrook http://norbrook.dailykos.com/ - Dec 26, 2009 snip 54 years ago, a weak, flawed piece of legislation was passed. It didn't do anything to control air pollution. It didn't set any standards. It didn't have enforcement built into it. It didn't even have a lot of funding. 8 years later, another piece of legislation was passed. It wasn't much better. But they were the beginning. As weak and toothless as these laws were, they set into law the principles that enabled the 1970 law. So we should expect to wait another 15 years before we get a decent health reform bill? snip Guess what? In the Senate bill, which will probably prevail over the House bill in conference, many of the rotten provisions won't go into effect until 2013, right after the start of Obama's lame duck second term. Sweet. I don't think anyone is going to kill the bill. Notice that the do.rk is just completely incapable of responding to Raunchy (or me). She didn't say the bill was going to be killed; her post assumes it'll pass. She thinks that's unfortunate and explains why at some length (snipped above). But all the do.rk can do is repeat the cliches: I believe that most rational Dems recognize that considering the realities of the current political make up of Congress what has been accomplished is a major, significent step forward in a decades long history of failed attempts to get anywhere on such a scale with health care legislation. Nor, having posted two horror stories of bills that took many years to become useful, as if that should make us feel better about this rotten bill, is he willing to address the question of how long it will take for it to become what it ought to be.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Original Social Security legislation very different from today's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: [snip] Your views on Social Security as a bad thing are shared primarily by the right wing fringe minority. Oh wait! ...you DO belong to the right wing fringe minority! [snip] Putting aside what I am or am not...and not relying on stereotypes, John, what is it exactly about Social Security that you think is a GOOD thing? The trillion dollars a year that is paid out? The fact that people are FORCED to pay into it? That the contributions have INCREASED tenfold? That Social Security, as an annuity payment, is an insurance product and that as such should be under state jurisdiction, NOT the federal government? That it is a legal Ponzi Scheme in every sense of the word? Please, John, tell us what you like about it and why the federal government should be doing it as opposed to, say, individuals or the individual states? Why the federal government and why it is some sort of model for healthcare insurance (again, an area that is supposed to be the exclusive jurisdiction of the states)?
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 2:11 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents Contact Disclosure: The Final Sequenc Is the Mallorca version the same occasion as the one you reported where MMY asked how many people were up early and looked out the window? Or was there more than one such incident? No. That was a Zinal, Switzerland TTC. There were also some stories from Lake Tahoe, where Maharishi stayed with the 108's for a while in the early '70. I recall someone telling me about seeing some strange lights descending, and Maharishi commenting that he had had visitors. Sorry I can't recollect what I was told more clearly, and even that was pretty anecdotal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Original Social Security legislation very different from today's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: [snip] Your views on Social Security as a bad thing are shared primarily by the right wing fringe minority. Oh wait! ...you DO belong to the right wing fringe minority! [snip] Putting aside what I am or am not...and not relying on stereotypes, John, what is it exactly about Social Security that you think is a GOOD thing? The trillion dollars a year that is paid out? The fact that people are FORCED to pay into it? That the contributions have INCREASED tenfold? That Social Security, as an annuity payment, is an insurance product and that as such should be under state jurisdiction, NOT the federal government? That it is a legal Ponzi Scheme in every sense of the word? Please, John, tell us what you like about it and why the federal government should be doing it as opposed to, say, individuals or the individual states? Why the federal government and why it is some sort of model for healthcare insurance (again, an area that is supposed to be the exclusive jurisdiction of the states)? The people that are collecting don't see it as a problem. With the change in those working and those collecting tho it is now more of a ponzi operation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings: Healthcare Reform In Perspective
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:37 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: I don't think anyone is going to kill the bill. I believe that most rational Dems recognize that considering the realities of the current political make up of Congress what has been accomplished is a major, significent step forward in a decades long history of failed attempts to get anywhere on such a scale with health care legislation. Why does anyone still bother to reply to RD? I'm thinking of creating a spam filter for her, as she's like a broken record. Over and over again, that bastard who stole the election from her fellow traveler Lesbo-Nazi Hilary is no good. He's played us all along. Mein Gott. Over and over and over again. OK, the bill is flawed. But getting the foot in the door is the first step when it comes to contentious legislation. I posted months ago what LBJ would have done. But LBJ, The only person who sounds like a broken record around here is Bill Hicks spouting stupid sexist insults...again. Plus, he's lying. He knows very well I back up my criticism of Obama with facts and that it has nothing to do with Hillary. Bill goes lowbrow on me because he's intellectually lazy like the do.rk. He brings nothing to the discussion of HCR but a few meaningless talking points such as getting a foot in the door. He's totally incapable of discussing any of the specifics of the flawed bill. Both of them would do well to become more informed. if he were president today, would not have been able to trade pens, tours of the White House and appearances in MCs' home states when running for re-election to get the MCs to go his way with such very powerful money involved. Remember, LBJ at the very least was the benefactor (perhaps co-conspirator?) of powerful big money getting JFK out of the way. He didn't have to fight big money in Congress. LBJ was also the benefactor of a change in consciousness with respect to Civil Rights. The southerners were so embarassed by the killings, the way the blacks appeared in the media being clubbed down, LBJ didn't have so hard a time of it getting the legislation he's most noted for passed. Also, he played upon the grief of a nation in mourning. Not unlike Dubya.
[FairfieldLife] Deepak Chopra Challenges Skeptic Michael Shermer To Debate
WOO WOO IS A STEP AHEAD OF (BAD) SCIENCE By Deepak Chopra BeliefNet Sunday December 27, 2009 http://blog.beliefnet.com/intentchopra/2009/12/woo-woo-is-a-step-ahead-of-bad.html It used to annoy me to be called the king of woo woo. For those who aren't familiar with the term, woo woo is a derogatory reference to almost any form of unconventional thinking, aimed by professional skeptics who are self-appointed vigilantes dedicated to the suppression of curiosity. I get labeled much worse things as regularly as clockwork whenever I disagree with big fry like Richard Dawkins or smaller fry like Michael Shermer, the Scientific American columnist and editor of Skeptic magazine. The latest barrage of name-calling occurred after the two of us had a spirited exchange on Larry King Live last week http://bit.ly/5AlD31. Maybe you saw it. I was the one rolling my eyes as Shermer spoke. Sorry about that, a spontaneous reflex of the involuntary nervous system. Afterwards, however, I had an unpredictable reaction. I realized that I would much rather expound woo woo than the kind of bad science Shermer stands behind. He has made skepticism his personal brand, more or less, sitting by the side of the road to denigrate those people who believe in spirituality, ghosts, and so on, as he says on a YouTube video. No matter that this broad brush would tar not just the Pope, Mahatma Gandhi, St. Teresa of Avila, Buddha, and countless scientists who happen to recognize a reality that transcends space and time. All are deemed irrational by the skeptical crowd. You would think that skeptics as a class have made significant contributions to science or the quality of life in their own right. Uh oh. No, they haven't. Their principal job is to reinforce the great ideas of yesterday while suppressing the great ideas of tomorrow. Let me clear the slate with Shermer and forget the several times he has wiggled out of a public debate he was supposedly eager to have with me. I will ignore his recent blog in which his rebuttal of my position was relegated to a long letter from someone who obviously didn't possess English as a first language (would Shermer like to write a defense of his position in Hindi? It would read just as ludicrously if Hindi isn't his first language). With the slate clear, I'd like to see if Shermer will accept the offer to debate me at length on such profound questions as the following: € Is there evidence for creativity and intelligence in the cosmos? € What is consciousness? € Do we have a core identity beyond our biology, mind, and ego? € Is there life after death? Does this identity outlive the molecules through which it expresses itself? The rules will be simple. He can argue from any basis he chooses, and I will confine myself entirely to science. For we have reached the state where Shermer's tired, out-of-date, utterly mediocre science is far in arrears of the best, most open scientific thinkers -- actually, we reached that point sixty years ago when eminent physicists like Einstein, Wolfgang Pauli, Werner Heisenberg and Erwin Schrodinger applied quantum theory to deep spiritual questions. The arrogance of skeptics is both high-handed and rusty. It is high-handed because they lump brilliant speculative thinkers into one black box known as woo woo. It is rusty because Shermer doesn't even bother to keep up with the latest findings in neuroscience, medicine, genetics, physics, and evolutionary biology. All of these fields have opened fascinating new ground for speculation and imagination. But the king of pooh-pooh is too busy chasing down imaginary woo woo. Skeptics feel that they have won to the high ground in matters concerning consciousness, mind, the origins of life, evolutionary theory, and brain science. This is far from the case. What they cling to is nineteenth- century materialism, packaged with a screeching hysteria about God and religion that is so passé it has become quaint. To suggest that Darwinian theory is incomplete and full of unproven hypotheses, causes Shermer, who takes Darwin as purely as a fundamentalist takes scripture, to see God everywhere in the enemy camp. How silly. Shermer is a former Christian fundamentalist who is now a fundamentalist about materialism; fundamentalists must have an absolute to believe in. Thus he forces himself into a corner, declaring that all spirituality is bogus, that the sense of self is an illusion, that the soul is ipso facto a fraud, that mind has no existence except in the brain, that intelligence emerged only when evolution, guided by random mutations, developed the cerebral cortex, that nothing invisible can be real compared to solid objects, and that any thought which ventures beyond the five senses for evidence must be dismissed without question. I won't go into detail about the absurdity of such rigid thinking. However, the impulse behind dogmatic materialism seems intended to flatten one's opponents so thoroughly that through scorn and
