--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
Good points, dumbass.
Not really. Jimbo's just gotten his OMG-somebody-
insulted-Maharishi buttons pushed, and is just
lashing out thinking that insulting my former
About Rama and Maharishi: They were BOTH scumbags in my considered opinion.
And they BOTH did some good, for some people.
Exactly! I know some people, other than you, who were with Rama and respected
him much. As far as I can tell, they meditate wonderfully, you see this when
you meditate
I think 'universal ego' is an oxymoron.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
Good one, Mr. Soss and so happy to see that Nabby brain was not addled by
recent pic of Russell and Dalai Lama whose initials btw happen to be the
exact same as David Lynch. I think it's a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
Turq wrote:
About Rama and Maharishi: They were BOTH scumbags in my
considered opinion. And they BOTH did some good, for some
people.
Exactly! I know some people, other than you, who were
with Rama and respected him much. As
This is from a friend, who says that this is the latest hype with Osho
sannyasins. http://www.ratubagus.com/English/Bio+Energy+Meditation
Seems that Ratu Bagus originally came from Subud
http://thetaobums.com/topic/5341-shaking-practice-in-bali/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subud
Thank you for the Rama clarification - it is unfortunate that people decide to
abuse others under the guise of giving them something good - but I suppose it
is part of human nature.
As to Maharishi's sexual behavior, it doesn't bother me all that much that he
did it, I was curious about how
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From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the
For some reason, this reminds me of a story I heard from what I think of as a
reliable source: once on a course someone asked Maharishi if it's true that an
enlightened man can just look at a person and pop them into enlightenment.
Maharishi silently nodded his head. Well, Maharishi, said
Good for oxes and morons? Well I'm not an Ox in Chinese astrology. So that
only leaves...(-:
From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rama,Krishna,
Pro TMers and anti TMers are all sharing their experiences and their opinions
which is filtered through their conditioning to varying degrees. All have both
gifts and flaws as do all the teachers, friends, etc. they have ever had.
But we will continue to talk about all this. For the fun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
Good for oxes and morons? Well I'm not an Ox in Chinese astrology. So
that only leaves...(-:
Cosmic ego, maybe? I think that was actually Maharishis expression, was it? Or
was that cosmic accident?
Share, for all what I know of
Recently a friend alerted me that an Advaita teacher he knows, Cesar Teruel,
'renounced' his enlightenment, making a 'Confession' at his facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/teruelcesar He is on Batgap too
http://batgap.com/cesar-teruel/
The confession is only recent. To me it seems that
John:
He stated that consciousness is the cause
of the physical body...
MMY taught dhyana yoga, that is, for every
event that happens, there is a cause; one
thing leads to another; there are no random
events; everything happens for a reason. He
enumerated three constituents which are the
Nice try - Lenz WAS a rapist at gunpoint. If this woman recanted her story,
that is not evidence he wasn't. Boy, you sure ate it up, though, as a hard core
refutation of this loser you followed around.
Sticking your cock into a woman, at the point of a gun, IS RAPE, Barry - Have
you figured
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
in the same room with Maharishi was (for me) like meditating
at home alone; there was almost never any more silence than
usual going down. That, in my estimation, is the reason MMY
spent so little time *ever* meditating with groups
PS While insulting me, to protect your misogynist SMOKIN' teacher, you mention
I read an article on Wikipedia- BZT! I have heard this story five or six
times, from various sources, and not just regarding one of Rama's rapes, but
several of them.
Did he encourage you to rape women too?
Bhairitu:
There are some books by real tantrics...
The 'Tantras' ARE books - 'Tantrism' originated in
the early centuries CE and developed into a fully
articulated tradition by the end of the Gupta period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantra
...vibration/movement of consciousness.
Few articles have captured the depths to which con men from
India will stoop as this one does. I noticed it because one
of my hero sites is RetractionWatch, an activist science
site that follows dodgy research and blows the whistle on
it and the researchers who perpetrate it when it turns out
Enlightenment isn't experiences. It is a state of consciousness, permanently,
that continues to evolve, once it is established. You people that associate
enlightenment with Flashy Experiences need to get beyond that concept. Has
nothing to do with it. It is about not being overshadowed in
Oh, that's right, you don't like Indians. Racism, like sexism, is an ugly
trait, Barry. I recall several of your posts condemning the entire Indian
subcontinent, because of some judgments you made about Indians in the US. Was
Lenz a racist also??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Great lecture of
Sarina Grosswald, Ed.D.,
TM Conference at the Harvard Club
http://doctorsontm.org/videos/alleviates-learning-disorders
Just think of those posts of supposedly enlightened
egos here who shout I AM ENLIGHTENED, GET IT!! Well, IMHO that is spiritual
superego.
Um, my *exact* phrase, was, I AM ENLIGHTENED AND DON'T YOU EVER FORGET IT,
BARRY! Pushed his buttons good! LOL, and possibly yours...:-) Have a nice day!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
PS While insulting me, to protect your misogynist SMOKIN' teacher, you
mention I read an article on Wikipedia- BZT! I have heard this story five
or six times, from various sources, and not just regarding one of Rama's
It's ok, navashok, you often make tons of sense and I don't mind being a moron.
It's actually quite liberating (-:
Yes, that post on Unity from Anandamayi Ma was so beautiful. Between that and
the Lady Keshe writing, I'm giving up on the whole enlightenment thing. Which
I was pathetic at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
Good for oxes and morons? Well I'm not an Ox in Chinese astrology. So
that only leaves...(-:
Cosmic ego, maybe? I think that was actually Maharishis expression, was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
For some reason, this reminds me of a story I heard from what I think of as a
reliable source:Â once on a course someone asked Maharishi if it's true that
an enlightened man can just look at a person and pop them into
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
For some reason, this reminds me of a story I heard from
what I think of as a reliable source: once on a course
someone asked Maharishi if it's true that an enlightened
No, didn't push buttons, just making a point and giving an opinion. For me,
what you say there and now is just pure ego. Why would you even need to push
buttons?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
Just think of those posts of supposedly enlightened
egos here who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
For some reason, this reminds me of a story I heard from what I think of as
a reliable source:Â once on a course someone asked Maharishi if it's true
that an
Good save (-:
Sigh, I admit to liking the idea that Maharishi said the other phrase about
socks. But appreciate your setting me straight.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
For some reason, this reminds me of a story I heard from
what I think of as a reliable source: once on a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
(snip)
As to Maharishi's sexual behavior, it doesn't bother me all that
much that he did it, I was curious about how those who think he
was the best thing since sliced bread worked it out in their
heads that the skin boys had come
I can't speak for Cesar. To comment, rather than have a knee-jerk reaction, see
his video on Batgap and read his confession at FB. To see it you have to become
a friend. And, yes I know all the Neo-Advaita standard phrase book, thanks, no
need.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
For some reason, this reminds me of a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In
OHhhh ourself-luminous Self,self-revealing in everything
Doesn't he say Life is effortless existence!?
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
(the more things change, the more they stay the same)
Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr
http://batgap.com/the-signposter-troy-of-is/
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
(snip)
As to Maharishi's sexual behavior, it doesn't bother me all that
much that he did it, I was curious about how those who think he
was the best thing since sliced
I was present when he answered pretty much the same question and M's answer was
that it would be cruel because the person's physiology wouldn't be trained to
maintain it and they would lose it just as easily. There was no mention of
*burning up*, just the idea of the torment one would have at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
On 02/06/2013 06:48 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Bhairitu:
There are some books by real tantrics...
The 'Tantras' ARE books - 'Tantrism' originated in
the early centuries CE and developed into a fully
articulated tradition by the end of the Gupta period.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In
On 02/05/2013 11:19 PM, card wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
No *wonder* you still like them; they're just like the TMO. :-)
http://theweek.com/article/index/239665/the-best-lines-from-nokias-absurdly-positive-review-of-its-own-windows-phone
Now that the next
About time. I actually heard this would be a good idea in the 1980s
from a friend who was an officer in the postal union. He also told me
that 3 day weekends were a mixed blessing because they would get a day
off and twice as much mail to deliver the following day. He also said
the 6 day
On 02/06/2013 06:26 AM, navashok wrote:
Recently a friend alerted me that an Advaita teacher he knows, Cesar Teruel,
'renounced' his enlightenment, making a 'Confession' at his facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/teruelcesar He is on Batgap too
http://batgap.com/cesar-teruel/
The
Having been involved in as much channeling as I was the past 25 years, I have
to agree. There are all sorts of permutations of it from the living masters, if
you want to call them that, to the Space Brothers or Galactics who are going
to come down and save us with their superior technology and
The problem seems to be more that although the number of scientific
journals and articles published is increasing each year, the rate of
papers being retracted as invalid is increasing even faster and
researchers like to portray their retractions as being the result of
errors.
Papers are
The posts have now been restored.
http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/wordpress-removes-anil-p\
otti-posts-from-retraction-watch-in-error-after-false-dmca-copyright-cla\
im/
http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/wordpress-removes-anil-\
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
On 02/06/2013 06:26 AM, navashok wrote:
Recently a friend alerted me that an Advaita teacher he knows, Cesar
Teruel, 'renounced' his enlightenment, making a 'Confession' at his
facebook page https://www.facebook.com/teruelcesar He
OMG [#-o]
loosing face
forgot
my smiley face
should be :
Papers are retracted because of software errors (hopeful not done by
Turquoisb).. [:D] [;)] [;)]
of course
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote:
The problem seems to be more that although the number of scientific
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
(snip)
Often people who renounce their enlightenment weren't
enlightened to begin with.
How many people are there who have renounced their
enlightenment? And how did you learn of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
On 02/06/2013 06:26 AM, navashok wrote:
Recently a friend alerted me that an Advaita teacher
he knows, Cesar Teruel, 'renounced' his enlightenment,
making a 'Confession' at his facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/teruelcesar
OTOH
Duke university seems to have it own kind of fraternity's
`racist rager
http://tinyurl.com/a9hkqj6 http://tinyurl.com/a9hkqj6
for what it's worth...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
Oh, that's right, you don't like Indians. Racism, like sexism, is an
ugly
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/04/study-debunks-notion-that-men-and-women-are-psychologically-distinct/
LOSING face
ABSOLUTELY FREE, NO CHARGE mnemonic device:
If the ring on your finger is too loose, it might slip off and you might lose
it. The ring that is, not the finger. Probably.
Also don't forget the rolling eyes along with Just consider if the TMO...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
(snip)
Bahd idea, as Ahnold might say. For many of them, the
experiences soon faded, and they would have been thought
of as fools or liars if they *admitted* that they had
faded, because within the TM org at that time, it was
*assumed*
Who said I *needed* to? Why do you eat vanilla ice cream, instead of chocolate?
It was FUN, dude!!!
Here was an arrogant jackass crowing over people's buttons being pushed, so I
set him up - It worked beautifully! Awesome!! High five, jive! :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok
One should never claim enlightenment but it is perfectly
okay to say one is experiencing some enlightenment.
Huh?! Who the fuck made you King? You are proclaiming what a person can, and
cannot say, about enlightenment?? You are a reasonable person and movie buff,
but, We don't nd no
I was not confused by it, since my first (dirty) witnessing experiences were on
residence courses, and they faded about a day after the course. I was not ever
told that this state was permanent, if experienced. Just the opposite.
Shit, its been 40 years for Bee since the TM daze - He just
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
I was not confused by it, since my first (dirty) witnessing
experiences were on residence courses, and they faded about
a day after the course. I was not ever told that this state
was permanent, if experienced. Just the
Ever notice how ego-maniacs end up looking like masochists, due to their
arrogance? lol. ya can't make this stuff up folks!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
I was not confused by it, since my first (dirty)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
Ever notice how ego-maniacs end up looking like masochists,
due to their arrogance? lol. ya can't make this stuff up folks!
I've wondered whether Barry actually gets some kind of
twisted pleasure out of being repeatedly
I gasped when I saw this headline, from Concord, California. Turns out the
camel wasn't hurt, but escaped onto a local road, twice, the second time being
clipped by a minivan, which knocked the animal down, after which, the camel got
up, ran around in circles, and was as good as new.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
What I find fascinating is anyone so weak-willed
and wussy as to believe that such saviors could
actually EXIST. In my book this is the height of
New Age / Old Age delusional fantasy. It's all
based on the wish that there is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote:
I was present when he answered pretty much the same question and M's answer
was that it would be cruel because the person's physiology wouldn't be
trained to maintain it and they would lose it just as easily. There was no
mention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl2-bu0XK-4
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
Ever notice how ego-maniacs end up looking like masochists,
due to their arrogance? lol. ya can't make this stuff up folks!
I honestly don't know which is sadder -- that Judy
and Jimbo believe that FFL is all about a battle
between themselves and me, or that they think
they are winning. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
What I read somewhere recently is (in the context of the 9 Ashoks), that
Osho actually believed that Krishnamurti, who renounced the role of
Maitreya, should have accepted this role, that it was a mistake of him
not to do
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
Could this have been one of those secret teachings
divulged only to TM teachers? Because it was always my
understanding that one could slip into and out of the
experience of any state of consciousness, although at
some point a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
Could this have been one of those secret teachings
divulged only to TM teachers? Because it was always my
understanding that one could slip into and out of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
I honestly don't know which is sadder -- that Judy
and Jimbo believe that FFL is all about a battle
between themselves and me, or that they think
they are winning. :-)
That's OK, Barry, you just sit there and try to figure
it out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
I honestly don't know which is sadder -- that Judy
and Jimbo believe that FFL is all about a battle
between themselves and me, or that they think
they are winning. :-)
It sure makes fun reading. Hull breach immanent!
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
Could this have been one of those secret teachings
divulged only to TM teachers? Because it
On 02/06/2013 12:21 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
I gasped when I saw this headline, from Concord, California. Turns out the
camel wasn't hurt, but escaped onto a local road, twice, the second time
being clipped by a minivan, which knocked the animal down, after which, the
camel
Nope, just passing on what a lot of gurus say.
On 02/06/2013 11:46 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
One should never claim enlightenment but it is perfectly
okay to say one is experiencing some enlightenment.
Huh?! Who the fuck made you King? You are proclaiming what a person can, and
Yeah, I have heard stuff like that before. I respect that not everyone feels
like talking about it, from a personal point of view. On the other hand, if I
want to, why not?
I agree that the caution expressed by a lot of Gurus, is a good thing to have
in place, though not as an absolute law.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
Could this have
MEMO: Jimbo to Bee - the *thoughts* below, are yours, and yours alone.
When you ascribe them to someone else, you are acting out a psychological
process, the transference of your personal feelings onto another, called
p-r-o-j-e-c-t-i-l-e-v-o-m-i-t-i-n-g. :-) :-) :-)
--- In
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On this note, I shall not reveal how enlightened I have become, even if it is
over 20 pounds less, for which this thread of this topic of renouncing
enlightenment is really hilarious reading (minus the guru's with guns for
pussy)reminds me of this sketch:
New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump
http://s.wordpress.com/i/emails/blavatar-default.png
http://batgap.com/?author=1
http://batgap.com/thomas-keating/ 158. Fr. Thomas Keating
by http://batgap.com/?author=1 Rick
Fr. Thomas Keating is a founding member and
Per Jerry Jarvis (his opinion not shared by many Buddhists) although he used
the word Unity: After Unity and dropping the physical body, the purpose of
evolution has been fulfilled and there's no further relative existence for
subtle bodies since there's no need.
...
This differs from many
http://www.xanthohumol.com
...
virtual reality 3-D neosurrealism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbeSKFoKx1Y
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
Recently a friend alerted me that an Advaita teacher he knows, Cesar
Teruel, 'renounced' his enlightenment, making a 'Confession' at his
facebook page https://www.facebook.com/teruelcesar He is on Batgap too
http://batgap.com/cesar-teruel/
Looks like there's already a flag on the play - Navashok calls roughing the
passer, but it looks like the officials will overturn it...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
Recently a friend alerted me that an
What an extraordinary man. How wonderful that you interviewed him. He was a
huge part in the healing process for many of my friends when they moved forward
from their time in the context with Robin back in the mid 1980's. I spent
time at the monastery as well, a stunning place in Snowmass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
Looks like there's already a flag on the play - Navashok calls
roughing the passer, but it looks like the officials will overturn it...
The confession is only recent. To me it seems that the guy has
strong
enlightenment
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