[FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
Yes, Xeno, you are correct, I am not in the same place I was 2+ years ago. I was in a very bad place. Bad enough to go see, with my children in tow, a purported saint of love and compassion (Amma) and spend 4 days praying for a miracle. And lo and behold, I ended up here - the weirdest, most surreal, most brazenly outspoken place ever. I remember I wrote down and looked up the meaning of your name, btw. FFL turned out to be a damn fine thing for one such as myself. And this is why I am only ultimately grateful to FFL at large, and to some people in particular, including those, like BP, that have left. I try to remain teachable. So, fire away at will, Xeno, whenever you get a chance. Smile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Emily has just written the post of the year, the post of the heart and of a beautifully functioning mind. I, for one, thank you for this. Yes Ann, that was a very nice post of Emily's, and I hope to answer her post when I have time, as we disagree on some points. What is interesting to me in this brief moment of time I have, is how much her manner has changed from when she started on the forum. She was very halting and uncertain at first, maybe confused about her situation back then, and is now quite confident in what she communicates. I did not know Emily when she first appeared here as I was still in the equivalent of the FFL womb (frightening thought actually) and not yet born to this place. But what I do remember of Emily does not seem to resemble very much the woman who posted today. What I loved about her words was the tremendous feeling and honesty in them. The content was worthwhile enough but what was behind that was even more of a stunner. To me they were words born of a lifetime lived and a life now showing the fruits of her experience. Integrity. That's it. It buoyed my faith in the human species. I look forward to reading your responses. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Sorry for the grammatical errorse.g, should have said maybe it was the first lute harpsichord I've ever heard. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Xeno, love the musical score - wonderful and the information on Bach compositions. The piece I posted was just about the music and the guitar, I believe - yes an adaptation. I was driving the other day and listening to the most fabulous piece of Bach with harpsichord (maybe it was a lute harpsichord I've ever heard) - but don't know which piece it was. Comments below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn wrote: I meant responsibility for the behavior. This is an interesting line though - one does not need to take responsibility for oneself. Can you add more as to why you wrote that and what you mean in what context? I am honestly curious about this. I am, in no way, trying to make you feel guilty, demean you or control you. I am aware of that, but what about Share? I am, of course, reflecting my feeling on the matter with regard to how I have experienced Share's willingness to create harm by hurling mean-spiritedness in her fits of pique and never once taking accountability, and worse than that, not being willing to even engage in conversation or debate or play on what she does, FFL style or anything. She has behaved towards me, on most occasions, like a mean girl who taunts and worse and runs immediately to hide behind the skirt of the playground monitor crying that the other kids' are being mean to her. I was attempting to inform Share that given the accusation she hurled relentlessly at Robin publicly, and one that was never even close to evident within the exchanges that were available or posted - for her to state what she did, that I replied to, indicated to me that she is experiencing what she might call, cognitive dissonance, or what I might call hypocrisy or blindness as to her self and behavior. In that, if I honestly felt that someone had done to me what she states was done to her, I would in no way, at any time, follow that up with a sentiment that I was interested in what said person had to say. I acknowledge, and have from the beginning that I find the term she used completely inappropriate. And, why I do, and how, it is obvious she appropriated it from
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann's turn to PLONK. Simply amazing! from google dictionary de·bate /diËbÄt/ Noun A formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward. Verb Argue about (a subject), esp. in a formal manner. Synonyms noun. discussion - dispute - argument - disputation verb. dispute - discuss - argue - deliberate - canvass It does no good to point out to compulsive arguers that they're compulsive arguers, Share. They're not really human beings; they're just EGOs trying to assert themselves and (in their minds, at least) win some imaginary battle that is going on only inside their heads. Isn't it fascinating that the SAME people who could not see that Robin's behavior *had never changed* from the Bad Old Days we've read about and the Equally Bad New Days on FFL are the people who *act just like him*? That is, they all seem to live for *confrontation*, for luring (or badgering, or insulting, or slander- ing) people into one-on-one battles with them. I honestly believe that for many of these people, the ones who have been doing it the longest, that the goal is no longer to win, and assert their opinions or their POVs as better or more true. They're in it for the battles themselves. What their EGOs *get off on* is that direct battle with other EGOs. I've stated my opinion on this many times, and I know that there are a few here who share it, and find this description of what Internet chat groups are all about (a place to do battle, and argue incessantly about things that only EGOs could possibly care about) is rather sad, and kinda misses the point. I don't understand the motivations that such people have to turn *everything* into some kind of imaginary battle that they think they can win. But then, my EGO isn't terribly attached to the opinions I post from time to time. They're JUST opinions. WHY on earth should I get involved in defending them or arguing about them? It seems to me that a much better use of my time and my energy is to just *present* opinions, and leave the debating of them to those who are attached to their own opinions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?
dear Obba, as Judy says: dictionaries are fine and dandy, but one must use a little common sense in applying definitions. So here's a little uncommon sense just for fun: Plonk (wine), poor quality wine From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 10:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue? Okay. I understand. Still, WTF is plonk or PLONK? Anyone? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Well dear I'm not neutral and I refuse to plonk this time. On Jul 9, 2013, at 7:18 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ravi, you being a neutral and all, acould you answer this for me, please? WTF is a PLONK? Thank you, Obba Gopi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Share dear - calm down please, you are getting triggered. Please look up argue in the dictionary as well and see how it compares to debate and engaging in conversation. Let me know if you need any help. Hint: There's an emotional aspect in argue which isn't present in debate. So people usually qualify it when used with debate such as heated debate. Oh what the fuck here it is argue - exchange or express diverging or opposite views, *typically in a heated or angry way* On 7/9/13 5:42 PM, Share Long wrote: Ann's turn to PLONK. Simply amazing! from google dictionary de·bate /diˈbÄt/ Noun A formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward. Verb Argue about (a subject), esp. in a formal manner. Synonyms /noun/. discussion - dispute - argument - disputation /verb/. dispute - discuss - argue - deliberate - canvass -- *From:* Ann awoelflebater@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:03 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq wrote: have a corollary need to portray anyone who *won't* argue with them as broken or defective or bad in some way. Judy commented: Nobody has said anything like that for days. Emily to Xeno about Share: worse than that, not being willing to even engage in conversation or debate or play on what she does, FFL style or anything. Share replies: PLONK This is perhaps one of the most unbelievable responses I have ever witnessed at FFL. engage in conversation, debate or play arenot arguing Share. My God, simply amazing. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue? Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: (snip) Yet on this forum (judging from the posts I skip these days but can grok the essence of just from their first words in Message View), some people not *only* seem to have a constant need to argue, they *also* seem to have a corollary need to portray anyone who *won't* argue with them as broken or defective or bad in some way. No, you're hallucinating again. Nobody has said anything like that for days. But you've said what you say here I don't know how many times. Dozens.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning of the women's names
More names from The Name Book by Pierre Le Rouzic: Judy, pilate name is Martha, personality type is Eager Huntress Ann and Emily, pilate name is Anne, personality type is The Seeker of Experience Susan, pilate name is Madeline, personality type is Impassioned Madonna Carol and Sal, pilate name is Henrietta, personality type is Faithful Queen Share, pilate name is Cecilia, personality type is Agile Gatherer Obba, closest listed was Obie, pilate name Thomas, personality type The Sower and the Reaper or Obelia, pilate name Dominique, personality type Silent Achiever merudanda, closest listed was Merrie, pilate name Henry, personality type Ardent Lover Peter is a pilate name, personality type Generous Heart Curtis, pilate name is Raymond, personality type is Persevering Achiever From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meaning of the women's names Dear Share, You provided the pilate meaning of the men's names and said you would do the same for the women. I'm curiouswanna give it a go? Or, did you already do it and I missed it? You don't have to defend or argue the validity of what you have posted as it's not *your* assessment. Seems a safe bet. Smile. Emily
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?
LOL! Yeah, keep telling yourself that. If you say it enough times in your head, you will believe it to be true. Oh wait, you already did that.:-) See, Barry, liberation is not about always pointing out people's faults to make yourself feel better. That is what someone with no silence within would rant about. If a person is genuinely free, inside and out, they would not see the point in perennially chasing something, obsessing over a topic they stopped being involved with, years ago. If a person is truly liberated, they look forward, and no so much focus on their past. Sure, we all have moments of reflection, but you do it, in my opinion, to an unhealthy degree. Just like your continual moving, your writing this stuff, is always the perspective of a lonely guy, looking outwards for some solace and attention. Surrounded, in your table for one, by those living life and full of joy at meeting others. I think there is nothing more you crave, than for someone really wonderful to approach you, at your solitary cafe table, and give you some love. Until then, its going to be this same endless, and empty, writing from you. One thing I AM thankful for, is that after sharing my thoughts with you, you often then decide to take the day off from FFL, leaving it open to those who are present, and engaged in the present world. I DO thank you for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann's turn to PLONK. Simply amazing! from google dictionary de·bate /diËbÄt/ Noun A formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward. Verb Argue about (a subject), esp. in a formal manner. Synonyms noun. discussion - dispute - argument - disputation verb. dispute - discuss - argue - deliberate - canvass It does no good to point out to compulsive arguers that they're compulsive arguers, Share. They're not really human beings; they're just EGOs trying to assert themselves and (in their minds, at least) win some imaginary battle that is going on only inside their heads. Isn't it fascinating that the SAME people who could not see that Robin's behavior *had never changed* from the Bad Old Days we've read about and the Equally Bad New Days on FFL are the people who *act just like him*? That is, they all seem to live for *confrontation*, for luring (or badgering, or insulting, or slander- ing) people into one-on-one battles with them. I honestly believe that for many of these people, the ones who have been doing it the longest, that the goal is no longer to win, and assert their opinions or their POVs as better or more true. They're in it for the battles themselves. What their EGOs *get off on* is that direct battle with other EGOs. I've stated my opinion on this many times, and I know that there are a few here who share it, and find this description of what Internet chat groups are all about (a place to do battle, and argue incessantly about things that only EGOs could possibly care about) is rather sad, and kinda misses the point. I don't understand the motivations that such people have to turn *everything* into some kind of imaginary battle that they think they can win. But then, my EGO isn't terribly attached to the opinions I post from time to time. They're JUST opinions. WHY on earth should I get involved in defending them or arguing about them? It seems to me that a much better use of my time and my energy is to just *present* opinions, and leave the debating of them to those who are attached to their own opinions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: LOL! Yeah, keep telling yourself that. If you say it enough times in your head, you will believe it to be true. Oh wait, you already did that.:-) See, Barry, liberation is not about always pointing out people's faults to make yourself feel better. That is what someone with no silence within would rant about. If a person is genuinely free, inside and out, they would not see the point in perennially chasing something, obsessing over a topic they stopped being involved with, years ago. If a person is truly liberated, they look forward, and no so much focus on their past. Sure, we all have moments of reflection, but you do it, in my opinion, to an unhealthy degree. Just like your continual moving, your writing this stuff, is always the perspective of a lonely guy, looking outwards for some solace and attention. Surrounded, in your table for one, by those living life and full of joy at meeting others. I think there is nothing more you crave, than for someone really wonderful to approach you, at your solitary cafe table, and give you some love. Until then, its going to be this same endless, and empty, writing from you. One thing I AM thankful for, is that after sharing my thoughts with you, you often then decide to take the day off from FFL, leaving it open to those who are present, and engaged in the present world. I DO thank you for that. Well, Barry's pontificating is a lot like someone having taken a good dump in the morning. Once you've stunk up the place and gotten the old meat out of your system it's time to move on for the day. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann's turn to PLONK. Simply amazing! from google dictionary de·bate /diËbÄt/ Noun A formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward. Verb Argue about (a subject), esp. in a formal manner. Synonyms noun. discussion - dispute - argument - disputation verb. dispute - discuss - argue - deliberate - canvass It does no good to point out to compulsive arguers that they're compulsive arguers, Share. They're not really human beings; they're just EGOs trying to assert themselves and (in their minds, at least) win some imaginary battle that is going on only inside their heads. Isn't it fascinating that the SAME people who could not see that Robin's behavior *had never changed* from the Bad Old Days we've read about and the Equally Bad New Days on FFL are the people who *act just like him*? That is, they all seem to live for *confrontation*, for luring (or badgering, or insulting, or slander- ing) people into one-on-one battles with them. I honestly believe that for many of these people, the ones who have been doing it the longest, that the goal is no longer to win, and assert their opinions or their POVs as better or more true. They're in it for the battles themselves. What their EGOs *get off on* is that direct battle with other EGOs. I've stated my opinion on this many times, and I know that there are a few here who share it, and find this description of what Internet chat groups are all about (a place to do battle, and argue incessantly about things that only EGOs could possibly care about) is rather sad, and kinda misses the point. I don't understand the motivations that such people have to turn *everything* into some kind of imaginary battle that they think they can win. But then, my EGO isn't terribly attached to the opinions I post from time to time. They're JUST opinions. WHY on earth should I get involved in defending them or arguing about them? It seems to me that a much better use of my time and my energy is to just *present* opinions, and leave the debating of them to those who are attached to their own opinions.
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[FairfieldLife] Interview with an american artist
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[FairfieldLife] A Tribute to Comedy
http://dlf.tv/2013/highlights-of-david-lynch-foundations-night-of-comedy-honoring-george-shapiro/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann's turn to PLONK. Simply amazing! from google dictionary de·bate /diËbÄt/ Noun A formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward. Verb Argue about (a subject), esp. in a formal manner. Synonyms noun. discussion - dispute - argument - disputation verb. dispute - discuss - argue - deliberate - canvass It does no good to point out to compulsive arguers that they're compulsive arguers, Share. They're not really human beings; they're just EGOs trying to assert themselves and (in their minds, at least) win some imaginary battle that is going on only inside their heads. Isn't it fascinating that the SAME people who could not see that Robin's behavior *had never changed* from the Bad Old Days we've read about and the Equally Bad New Days on FFL are the people who *act just like him*? That is, they all seem to live for *confrontation*, for luring (or badgering, or insulting, or slander- ing) people into one-on-one battles with them. I honestly believe that for many of these people, the ones who have been doing it the longest, that the goal is no longer to win, and assert their opinions or their POVs as better or more true. They're in it for the battles themselves. What their EGOs *get off on* is that direct battle with other EGOs. Says Barry, injecting his particular strain of poison. I have no EGO but boy can I make people feel bad or talk about myself incessantly, comparing what I do to all the other EGO bloated losers around here to show how despicable they are. Now listen to ME, I've got more to say, DON'T you walk away, I was talking. Hey, get back here, I'm not done...(squeak). I've stated my opinion on this many times, and I know that there are a few here who share it, and find this description of what Internet chat groups are all about (a place to do battle, and argue incessantly about things that only EGOs could possibly care about) is rather sad, and kinda misses the point. I don't understand the motivations that such people have to turn *everything* into some kind of imaginary battle that they think they can win. But then, my EGO isn't terribly attached to the opinions I post from time to time. They're JUST opinions. WHY on earth should I get involved in defending them or arguing about them? Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee, ha, ha, ha. Is posting this same assertion time after time not a way of asserting, defending and promoting your opinions? This opinion (one among many dozens of yours that appear and reappear here day after day) is stated over and over again. Oh wait, I see, repetition is NOT a form of involvement in what one has to say. It is just a technique for boring everyone to death. And of course Barry Wright has no ego, now I get it; repetition and living in denial is a state of the egoless man. It seems to me that a much better use of my time and my energy is to just *present* opinions, and leave the debating of them to those who are attached to their own opinions.
[FairfieldLife] A tribute to a great american; George Shapiro
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?
Looks like you *did* get something out of TM... Let it go and take it as it comes. But then, maybe you've always lived that. I don't read enough Barry posts to know, but I have a feeling that post is going to generate a lot of arguing, LOL! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue? I find myself pondering this in my writing cafe this evening, because as far as I can tell, given the extent of my eavesdropping French, no one at this cafe is arguing about *anything*. The closest anyone came to it was to have a minor dispute about which wine to order with their dinner, and that was resolved amicably by appealing to the gods of chance (flipping a coin) rather than by an appeal to authority or an assertion of My opinion about this is better than yours, and that's that. Yet on this forum (judging from the posts I skip these days but can grok the essence of just from their first words in Message View), some people not *only* seem to have a constant need to argue, they *also* seem to have a corollary need to portray anyone who *won't* argue with them as broken or defective or bad in some way. Go figure. From my point of view, the desire to argue indicates attachment. Period. Full stop. Those who are SO attached to their point of view that they feel the need to argue it and assert its dominance over other points of view are *attached* to that point of view. They *identify* with that point of view, and confuse it with who they are. But, to carry the rap one step further, the *need* to argue indicates a horribly corpulent ego, and narcissism...and one steaming shovelful of both. The *ultimate* expression of ego -- and the neediness that drives such people to assert their ego's supremacy over all others -- is IMO those who argue (literally) that anyone who isn't willing *to* argue with them *has something wrong with them*. From my point of view, that's completely backasswards. It's those who continually feel the need to assert their ego's silly ideas and beliefs as better or more valid than other people's who just might have something wrong with them. Such people really don't get it when they encounter someone who is able to put their opinion on a subject into one post, and then is *through*. If someone wants to reply to it and present a contrary opinion, that's just fine with them, but they don't feel any need to respond, or to defend their opinion. It *IS*, after all, just opinion. But some get SO attached to their ego's opinions that they come to believe that if any of them are challenged, that is somehow almost a challenge to their ego's existence. Can't have that. :-) Gotta try to badger such people into an argument, or insult them into an argument, or actually slander them into an argument, as some here have done. Seems kinda silly to me. Stopping my writing and eavesdropping again for a few minutes, I can tell that it seems kinda silly to the Parisians in this cafe with me, too. Compare and contrast to those whose words to St. Peter, when asked to relate their achievements back on Earth as an entrance exam to qualify for admission to Heaven, will probably have to be, I never once lost an argument on the Internet. Is that SAD, or what? If he's really compassionate, St. Peter will resist the urge to dispatch such people immediately to the other place, realizing that they've already spent their entire lives there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?
But then, my EGO isn't terribly attached to the opinions I post from time to time. They're JUST opinions. WHY on earth should I get involved in defending them or arguing about them? Ann: Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee, ha, ha, ha. The guy is on a big ego trip, that's fer sure. He got waxed real good by that Assholenick and he never seemed to recover. Then, Judy did the mop up and he left the discussion group and then left the country. LoL! But, not quite - he's still obsessed with clearing up his name on the internet. Many times these expats just feel better when they have someone to talk to. If you want to push Turq's buttons, just mention that Rama guy and the levitation incident, or the cognitive dissonance of being in an cult that was opposed to the 'anti-cultists', cult'. P.S. Did you ever wonder why Barry was so opposed to the Scientologists? Rumor has it that Barry helped Rama draft the ANTI-CAN manifesto defending the Rama cult. Go figure. Excerpt from my first communication with Barry: I've been there, done that. I wrote a whole story in my book about my feelings for the anti-cultists of the world and their mindset. (It's at http://ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm51.html for anyone who is interested.) In that story, I hope I expressed the level of my disdain for those whose life is so empty and whose minds are so small that they have to resort to such measures, and in the last line of the story I invoke an old and power-ful mantra. To forestall any need to deal with your adolescent bullshit in the future, I invoke it here against you, in its acronym form so as not to offend those with gentle sensibilities: FEITCTAJ. Author: Uncle Tantra Subject: Open Letter To Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2003-08-06 08:53:26 PST Is posting this same assertion time after time not a way of asserting, defending and promoting your opinions? This opinion (one among many dozens of yours that appear and reappear here day after day) is stated over and over again. Oh wait, I see, repetition is NOT a form of involvement in what one has to say. It is just a technique for boring everyone to death. And of course Barry Wright has no ego, now I get it; repetition and living in denial is a state of the egoless man. It seems to me that a much better use of my time and my energy is to just *present* opinions, and leave the debating of them to those who are attached to their own opinions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann's turn to PLONK. Simply amazing! from google dictionary de·bate /diËbÄt/ Noun A formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward. Verb Argue about (a subject), esp. in a formal manner. Synonyms noun. discussion - dispute - argument - disputation verb. dispute - discuss - argue - deliberate - canvass It does no good to point out to compulsive arguers that they're compulsive arguers, Share. They're not really human beings; they're just EGOs trying to assert themselves and (in their minds, at least) win some imaginary battle that is going on only inside their heads. Isn't it fascinating that the SAME people who could not see that Robin's behavior *had never changed* from the Bad Old Days we've read about and the Equally Bad New Days on FFL are the people who *act just like him*? That is, they all seem to live for *confrontation*, for luring (or badgering, or insulting, or slander- ing) people into one-on-one battles with them. I honestly believe that for many of these people, the ones who have been doing it the longest, that the goal is no longer to win, and assert their opinions or their POVs as better or more true. They're in it for the battles themselves. What their EGOs *get off on* is that direct battle with other EGOs. Says Barry, injecting his particular strain of poison. I have no EGO but boy can I make people feel bad or talk about myself incessantly, comparing what I do to all the other EGO bloated losers around here to show how despicable they are. Now listen to ME, I've got more to say, DON'T you walk away, I was talking. Hey, get back here, I'm not done...(squeak). snip Oh well, he IS inadvertently very entertaining...I was laughing at the image above, because I was imagining something similar; Barry at the center of an ever growing circle of emptiness, with those nearest growing ever further away, with Barry screaming desperately, I said Fuck You! FUCK YOU! NOTICE ME!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting More Metadata
...a good reminder not only how much information Google knows about you, but what that information can uncover about other people. 'What Gmail Knows About You' The Atlantic: http://tinyurl.com/mc68mnj As a general rule, so long as you have any choice at all, you should never route through or peer with the UK under any circumstances. 'NSA Ties Put German Intelligence in Tight Spot' Spiegel Online: http://tinyurl.com/k965s48 Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has apologized for telling Congress earlier this year that the National Security Agency does not collect data on millions of Americans, a response he now... 'Clapper apologizes for 'erroneous' answer on NSA' Associated Press: http://tinyurl.com/mzmoutv The FBI confirmed the active development of 'Magic Lantern', a keylogger intended to obtain passwords to encrypted e-mail and other documents during criminal investigations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus In the new world of the NSA, the only secret left is Barack Obama's college grades. Tweeted by Roger Simon: http://tinyurl.com/lgjku5h Clapper was asked by Oregon senator Ron Wyden in a March congressional hearing whether the government was collecting any type of data at all on millions of Americans. He responded, No, sir. The Corner: http://tinyurl.com/mg3zotg Why did the leader of the U.S. intelligence community mislead Congress in March by answering a question about the program... National Journal: http://tinyurl.com/kjyozsz Then they send in the SWAT teams, or they just blackmail you for 'obstructing justice'. Go figure. A Kenyan was hand-picked and groomed for the Oval Office. This explains his rise to the top. Now, he has to tow the line just as directed. Allowing foreign persons in any level of government is insane and should be against the law. LoL! Obama can't even be allowed to speak without a TelePrompTer or a Blackberry. The President is spoon-fed exactly what to say and do. Why do you think Obama is spending 100 million dollars to visit Africa? From what I've read, FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds and Tice agreed that such wide-ranging surveillance of officials could provide the intelligence agencies with unthinkable power to blackmail their opponents. 'Government could use metadata to map your every move http://tinyurl.com/mbq2zqn
[FairfieldLife] Please learn to snip !
Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please learn to snip !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting ! Share just posted 57 pages here. What is the matter with you ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meaning of the women's names
Thank you Share - For my name, I got a kick out of this, and it's pretty accurate. Although Emily isn't my given name, I gravitate towards it. Smile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: More names from The Name Book by Pierre Le Rouzic: Judy, pilate name is Martha, personality type is Eager Huntress Ann and Emily, pilate name is Anne, personality type is The Seeker of Experience Susan, pilate name is Madeline, personality type is Impassioned Madonna Carol and Sal, pilate name is Henrietta, personality type is Faithful Queen Share, pilate name is Cecilia, personality type is Agile Gatherer Obba, closest listed was Obie, pilate name Thomas, personality type The Sower and the Reaper or Obelia, pilate name Dominique, personality type Silent Achiever merudanda, closest listed was Merrie, pilate name Henry, personality type Ardent Lover Peter is a pilate name, personality type Generous Heart Curtis, pilate name is Raymond, personality type is Persevering Achiever From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meaning of the women's names  Dear Share, You provided the pilate meaning of the men's names and said you would do the same for the women. I'm curiouswanna give it a go? Or, did you already do it and I missed it? You don't have to defend or argue the validity of what you have posted as it's not *your* assessment. Seems a safe bet. Smile. Emily
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Sorry, Nabby, thanks for the reminder. I get posts as emails so am not aware of such extreme page amounts. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please learn to snip ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting ! Share just posted 57 pages here. What is the matter with you ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Spiritually Transmitted Diseases
Andy then went on to leave the movement and serve the pedophile king, and then return back to the states five years later to rape teenage boys. Of course, this was standard for the movement. ... after becoming a teacher, when I saw authoritarianism, and bureaucrats abusing their roles, and miscreants of every sort being pandered and pedestaled, my romanticism about the movement pretty much got its bucket of cold water in the face. turquoiseb: Thanks for taking the time to rap out your feelings about all this, Edg, and for finding a way to do so that wasn't all full of affront and attack dog mentality like so many who commented on Rick's repost of this article. Did either of you two report any of these cases cited by Edg of 'pedophile' or 'pedestaled' to the authorities? If not, why not? Go figure. How many of the pundit boys did Edg see Andy rape? Thanks to both of you for being so honest in finally reporting this to the discussion group. So, why is it that I'm hearing about this now instead of ten years ago when I first subscribed to this list? Somebody is either lying or covering up the truth. Thanks also for dealing with what it said, as opposed to just playing shoot the messenger and trying to attack its author while avoiding any of the issues raised in the original post, which is what some here who pretend to be honest did. I agreed with the author because these are *universal* mind- viruses that *do* seem to appear in *every* spiritual trip, no matter how much they may try to prevent them. Because they *do* appear in almost all spiritual trips, I have to agree with the author that these traps are spiritually transmitted -- they just come with the territory. Going all reactive when these trends are pointed out, and jumping into Gotta defend TM mode is just downright *embarrassing*. It's pretty much the ultimate in cult-think. As is trying to shoot the messenger rather than deal with the issues themselves. The fact that a few people did *exactly* that demonstrates (at least to me) how deeply some of these issues have become ingrained in the people who reacted that way. They literally lose their ability to be rational human beings when someone proposes a criticism of spiritual practice in general that they perceive (being stuck in small-mindedness) as an attack on TM. I'm *not* saying that we didn't have some good times in the TMO, or that it was All Bad, All The Time. But it *did* cultivate 'tudes like these, and to some extent still does. I honestly believe that a few of the shoot the messenger types here reacted as they did BECAUSE they'd had one or more of their *own* traits pointed out clearly and concisely, and couldn't take the heat. So they did what they always do, and pointed an angry finger at the person standing next to the thermostat turning the dial up. I *like* step back and take a new look at things we mainly take for granted about the spiritual process articles like this. I *like* Rick's reaction to it, finding it right on after -- and this cannot being ignored -- personally interviewing dozens if not hundreds of people in the spiritual teacher/guru biz now. When you do that, you become aware of *trends*, and this article is about *trends*. The SAME trends tend to show up in ALL spiritual trips, as far as I can tell. Maybe they're built in to the human operating system, and just tend to come out when humans clump together in groups...I dunno. But to pretend that these insights and generalizations are *not* accurate, or *not* accurate about the running joke that is the TM movement strikes me as head-in-the-sand-ism of the highest degree. As I said before, the value of pinpointing negative trends like these is that identifying the viruses gives one a chance to try to stop them before they become full-blown diseases. I've encountered a few organizations that tried with all their might *to* prevent many of these trends from becom- ing established. And many of them tried and failed. As an example, I once saw a lady named Gangaji give an entire one-hour talk about how she doesn't do anything up on stage to create or facilitate awakening experiences in her students, going over and over and over the non-doing and non-intent on her part dozens of times, as if to drive the point home for her students and make sure they heard and understood it. Then I listened to the conversations among her long-term students in the courtyard of the building after she'd left, and almost *all* of them were saying things like Wasn't the darshan hot tonight? And Yeah, she was really pushing out the energy and transforming all of us, wasn't she? Go figure. They brought their own preconceptions and beliefs to a talk, got told that those preconceptions and beliefs were crap and had nothing whatsoever to do with what the teacher's role or abilities were, and left with the same preconceptions
[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Spiritually Transmitted Diseases
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I'll let you decide for yourself: I've been doing TM since March 29, 1975 and in that time have missed between 5 and 10 meditations, usually because of travel or sickness. As for my bad behavior, IMO I've done my best to make amends Your best is none too good. There are piles and piles of your bad behavior that you haven't made the slightest effort to make amends for. And of course the one piece of *inexcusably* bad behavior for which you refuse to apologize. and have wisely Wisely? What an amazing thing to say about oneself. pursued healing modalities to insure that I don't do the bad behavior again. Share: They aren't working. Your bad behavior continues. I think this is all we can ask of us humans who are bound to make mistakes. I also offer as proof of being dedicated to spiritual liberation is the fact that I continue on FFL and in particular read Xeno's posts carefully. (horselaugh) BTW, my current main healing modality, which I've been doing for 17 weeks, involves prayer. One change I notice from the healing modality, is often these days I feel flooded with gratitude and for the smallest thing, like the chirping of the birds who are nested near the window AC in the back bedroom. And I'm grateful for that gratitude (-: It has a very different energetic feel that simply being pleased with life. And I don't think a person has to be grateful and or surrendered to God per se. I think gratitude and surrender to anyone or anything, even life itself, will do the trick to as you say smooth the road and make the journey quicker. If there is a journey! In certain mind body states, I'm sure that even a 7 11 would be paradisical. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Spiritually Transmitted Diseases  Hey Share, I am curious if you are dedicated to your spiritual liberation, or more of a dabbler in the sub-culture, like Barry? The reason I ask is that the greatest impediment I see to enlightenment, complete freedom, is when grown adults excuse their bad behavior, or worse, when they feel good about it, and repeat it. Before enlightenment, everyone feels contained and isolated most of the time. Those that enhance this condition for themselves are giving away an awfully lot, to feel good for a nano second or two. The only solution is to surrender *completely*, and pray deeply to God, remaining ever vigilant for that little voice, that little self that enjoys itself too much, and continuing to strive in the direction of liberation and Grace. All cynicism, depression and self-defeating thoughts, are replaced by faith, and momentum, and the road becomes much smoother, and the journey quicker. However, to be in ignorance (of one's own nature), and be pretty darned pleased with the result, is a road I would never, ever want to go down again. It is like being on the way to Paradise, and settling for the 7-11. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc and Ann, I really don't get what you all say. I remember turq's photos of Maya and his family, the core of his life IMO, and I read all his writing through those glasses. Sure it'd be great for me if he didn't speak against TMO. But in another way, it's great for me that he does, because it strengthens my devotion to the life I've chosen. And because he makes my thinking about family love expand. That's a valuable gift for me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please learn to snip !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Sorry, Nabby, thanks for the reminder. I get posts as emails so am not aware of such extreme page amounts. When one gets the posts via email, do the emails not include the quotes from the earlier posts in the thread? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please learn to snip ! Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting ! Share just posted 57 pages here. What is the matter with you ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please learn to snip !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Sorry, Nabby, thanks for the reminder. I get posts as emails so am not aware of such extreme page amounts. When one gets the posts via email, do the emails not include the quotes from the earlier posts in the thread? No, I just realized that's unlikely, since when a person who gets the posts via email responds to one of them, all the quotes are included in the response. So what the heck is she talking about? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please learn to snip ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting ! Share just posted 57 pages here. What is the matter with you ?
[FairfieldLife] Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
nablusoss1008: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting! Addressing the important issues! Yeah, but at least Judy and Barry format for easy reading. Go figure. Have you ever tried to read text on a 40 inch screen, from edge to edge. It looks so dumb when people do that. LoL! All they have to do is a little re-formatting - don't use the text wrap, just hit enter about keying 25 or 30 characters. Text reads easier when formatted to book size and people are used to reading paragraphs in books and newspapers. Like this.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
On 07/10/2013 09:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: nablusoss1008: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting! Addressing the important issues! Yeah, but at least Judy and Barry format for easy reading. Go figure. Have you ever tried to read text on a 40 inch screen, from edge to edge. It looks so dumb when people do that. LoL! All they have to do is a little re-formatting - don't use the text wrap, just hit enter about keying 25 or 30 characters. Still living in the 1980s, eh? Yahoo formats the posts anyway. And nothing looks worse than this for a short sentence. Text reads easier when formatted to book size and people are used to reading paragraphs in books and newspapers. Like this. I though you were supposed to be tech literate? At least on Thunderbird you can select View Source and see that Yahoo formats the posts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Looks like you *did* get something out of TM... Let it go and take it as it comes. But then, maybe you've always lived that. I don't read enough Barry posts to know I have, I do, and he hasn't. He used to be as argumentative as anyone else here. He was on alt.meditation.transcendental too. Thing is, he isn't *good* at arguing. His grasp of logic is poor, to say the least, and his memory stinks. The only way he knew (and still knows) how to argue is by using exaggeration, distortion, and outright falsehood. He kept getting called on his failures to make a solid case, and some years back he finally realized he'd be better off pretending he was so egoless he didn't *need* to argue or defend his opinions. Not long after that he started proclaiming his Do Not Read List, which enabled him to pretend he wasn't responding to the posts of certain people because he didn't read their posts, when actually his Do Not Read List was composed of people whom he knew he couldn't out-argue. At one point a week or so ago, he announced that he had *started* reading all the posts again, and he began to respond to those on his Do Not Read List. But his replies were insane, ridiculously over the top, out of control, completely out of touch with reality. He has apparently realized he was making himself look terrible, so he's gone back to his earlier stance and is pretending it's one he's always taken, seemingly hoping everyone has already forgotten his brief departure from it and how disastrous that was. , but I have a feeling that post is going to generate a lot of arguing, LOL! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?  I find myself pondering this in my writing cafe this evening, because as far as I can tell, given the extent of my eavesdropping French, no one at this cafe is arguing about *anything*. The closest anyone came to it was to have a minor dispute about which wine to order with their dinner, and that was resolved amicably by appealing to the gods of chance (flipping a coin) rather than by an appeal to authority or an assertion of My opinion about this is better than yours, and that's that. Yet on this forum (judging from the posts I skip these days but can grok the essence of just from their first words in Message View), some people not *only* seem to have a constant need to argue, they *also* seem to have a corollary need to portray anyone who *won't* argue with them as broken or defective or bad in some way. Go figure. From my point of view, the desire to argue indicates attachment. Period. Full stop. Those who are SO attached to their point of view that they feel the need to argue it and assert its dominance over other points of view are *attached* to that point of view. They *identify* with that point of view, and confuse it with who they are. But, to carry the rap one step further, the *need* to argue indicates a horribly corpulent ego, and narcissism...and one steaming shovelful of both. The *ultimate* expression of ego -- and the neediness that drives such people to assert their ego's supremacy over all others -- is IMO those who argue (literally) that anyone who isn't willing *to* argue with them *has something wrong with them*. From my point of view, that's completely backasswards. It's those who continually feel the need to assert their ego's silly ideas and beliefs as better or more valid than other people's who just might have something wrong with them. Such people really don't get it when they encounter someone who is able to put their opinion on a subject into one post, and then is *through*. If someone wants to reply to it and present a contrary opinion, that's just fine with them, but they don't feel any need to respond, or to defend their opinion. It *IS*, after all, just opinion. But some get SO attached to their ego's opinions that they come to believe that if any of them are challenged, that is somehow almost a challenge to their ego's existence. Can't have that. :-) Gotta try to badger such people into an argument, or insult them into an argument, or actually slander them into an argument, as some here have done. Seems kinda silly to me. Stopping my writing and eavesdropping again for a few minutes, I can tell that it seems kinda silly to the Parisians in this cafe with me, too. Compare and contrast to those whose words to St. Peter, when asked to relate their achievements back on Earth as an entrance exam to qualify for admission to Heaven, will probably have to be, I never once lost an argument on the Internet. Is that SAD, or what? If he's really compassionate, St. Peter will resist the urge to dispatch such people
[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/10/2013 09:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: nablusoss1008: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting! Addressing the important issues! Yeah, but at least Judy and Barry format for easy reading. Go figure. Have you ever tried to read text on a 40 inch screen, from edge to edge. It looks so dumb when people do that. LoL! All they have to do is a little re-formatting - don't use the text wrap, just hit enter about keying 25 or 30 characters. Still living in the 1980s, eh? Yahoo formats the posts anyway. Don't know what your problem is, Bhairitu, but he's absolutely right. Yahoo doesn't format the posts if they're already formatted with shorter lines. And nothing looks worse than this for a short sentence. Which happens how often? Text reads easier when formatted to book size and people are used to reading paragraphs in books and newspapers. Like this. I though you were supposed to be tech literate? At least on Thunderbird you can select View Source and see that Yahoo formats the posts.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
On 07/10/2013 10:03 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/10/2013 09:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: nablusoss1008: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting! Addressing the important issues! Yeah, but at least Judy and Barry format for easy reading. Go figure. Have you ever tried to read text on a 40 inch screen, from edge to edge. It looks so dumb when people do that. LoL! All they have to do is a little re-formatting - don't use the text wrap, just hit enter about keying 25 or 30 characters. Still living in the 1980s, eh? Yahoo formats the posts anyway. Don't know what your problem is, Bhairitu, but he's absolutely right. Yahoo doesn't format the posts if they're already formatted with shorter lines. My problem? How about over 30 years of computer programming under my belt? I think I know what I'm talking about, Judy. It is TOTAL BULLSHIT to self format these days. Programmers only do that in code to keep it readable and at their discretion. Email is not a programming editor and neither is the web interface. No need to add line feeds unless you want to make some point doing so like entering a poem. Apparently for some people old habits die hard. :-D Probably FFL would have been better off as a forum website. There you can use quote options. HTML will auto format according to the brower's panel size with a paragraph tag at the beginning and end of a paragraph. No line feed needed. Yahoo Groups email is sent in two formats: plain text and HTML. And nothing looks worse than this for a short sentence. Which happens how often? Often with the people who are still living in the 1980s. :-D Text reads easier when formatted to book size and people are used to reading paragraphs in books and newspapers. Like this. I though you were supposed to be tech literate? At least on Thunderbird you can select View Source and see that Yahoo formats the posts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting! Addressing the important issues! Yeah, but at least Judy and Barry format for easy reading. Go figure. Have you ever tried to read text on a 40 inch screen, from edge to edge. It looks so dumb when people do that. LoL! All they have to do is a little re-formatting - don't use the text wrap, just hit enter about keying 25 or 30 characters. Bhairitu: Still living in the 1980s, eh? Yahoo formats the posts anyway. And nothing looks worse than this for a short sentence. Text reads easier when formatted to book size and people are used to reading paragraphs in books and newspapers. Like this. Well I guess we know now who is viewing the web on a 4.3 inch screen. Go figure. I though you were supposed to be tech literate? Maybe, but I'm taking going to follow Judy and Barry's advice on the formatting - they've been doing this since at least 1995, and their posts ARE easier to read to respond to. The other posters are mostly a mish-mash of one-liners; sometimes you can't even tell what they're responding to, like MJ who insists on top-posting all the time. Even Vaj, who claimed to be a 'graphic artist' didn't know how to format a plain text message. Edg said he was a web page designer but he doesn't seem to realize that web pages display better for reading text in a text box width of about 720 pixels. Go figure. At least on Thunderbird you can select View Source and see that Yahoo formats the posts. Nobody who is serious about dialoging on Usenet uses an email reader like Thunderbird on a tiny screen like an Android or iPhone. Get real! I mean, if you're going to post smears about somebody like Andy raping a pundit boy, why not make it easy to read? Format like Barry does, not like Edg! LoL!
[FairfieldLife] Special Summer Events for Governors
From: TM National Communication Office communicat...@tm.org Subject: Special Summer Events for Governors Date: July 10, 2013 1:13:44 PM CDT To: dickm...@lisco.com Reply-To: communicat...@tm.org campaigns.819023.5372435.c2fa20f...@campaigns.netsuite.com VIEW EMAIL WITH IMAGES July 10, 2013 Dear Governors and Recertified Governors, There are many wonderful special events for Governors and Recertified Governors taking place in Fairfield this summer—and some are happening right now! We invite you to come join us and participate in these uplifting, inspiring activities. HAPPENING NOW—not too late to sign up: Special Governors Assembly, MUM, Fairfield, Iowa—Join us for the second week of this course from July 14–21. All Recertified Governors and Governors are invited to join us for a very special assembly of knowledge and experience. There is no course fee, and we are offering free on-campus housing (limited). The course will feature: Wonderful, rare videos of Maharishi Special presentations by leaders of the national organization The latest news of the expansion of Maharishi’s knowledge in the US and around the world Deep, restful programs in the Golden Domes at MUM For more information: http://communications.tm.org/2013_07_10_GovAssembly-AllGovs.html July 22: Guru Purnima, Maharishi University of Management, Fairfield, Iowa Join hundreds of Governors, Sidhas, and Meditators for this most precious celebration of our Holy Tradition. July 23: Meditation, Creativity, Peace Free Film Screening, 8 PM, Sondheim Center for the Performing Arts, Fairfield, Iowa Enjoy the free Fairfield screening of David Lynch’s documentary on his 16-country tour, during which time he spoke widely on creativity and TM practice. July 23: Mother Divine Alumnae Reunion Celebration, 2 PM, Festival Hall, Argiro Student Center, Maharishi University of Management, Fairfield, Iowa With so many in Fairfield for Guru Purnima, it’s a great opportunity for all former Mother Divine participants to get together to celebrate their enduring friendships and common purpose of nourishing the world with bliss. Bring your old photos and stories to share. RSVP by July 13th to mdalum...@gmail.com. Last minute drop-ins welcome also, but try to RSVP so we can plan for refreshments. July 24–27: Governors Conference and Workshops, Maharishi University of Management, Fairfield, Iowa. All Certified Governors are invited to join Raja John Hagelin, many of our greatest scientists and thinkers, and hundreds of other high-achieving Certified Governors from around the country. This is a tremendous once-a-year opportunity to recharge, bask in beautiful Maharishi tapes, and enjoy presentations on how to create greater success, bliss, and fulfillment for our Governors and TM® Centers. At this powerful event you will have the opportunity to: Enjoy beautiful knowledge meetings with rare videos of Maharishi, created specifically for Governors, and inspiring presentations of profound knowledge by Maharaja Adhiraj Raja Raam. Hear presentations on techniques for creating greater success from our high-achieving Governors—including local marketing initiatives, strategies for following up on leads, and maintaining relationships with your meditators to continually inspire them toward enlightenment. Improve your skills in presenting Maharishi’s knowledge and refresh your memory with private teaching instructions. Meet with Raja Hagelin and members of his national team to share your best ideas and strategies to help create greater growth and fulfillment in the world’s most enlightened career. Discuss the latest and most relevant research with some of the world’s greatest and most experienced scientists and researchers in the field of consciousness. Enjoy a summary of the success of our teaching initiatives around the world, including reports on major projects underway in India and South America. Relax each night with enjoyable entertainment from our enlightened artists. For more information: http://communications.tm.org/2013_05_12_GovsWorkshops.html July 27–August 4: Experience the Self Course, Maharishi University of Management, Fairfield, Iowa. Governors, meditators, and non-meditators alike are invited to embark upon an extraordinary eight-day journey and explore their deepest Self at the second annual Experience the Self course. During this fun, restful course, non-meditators can learn the TM technique; everyone can participate in a wide range of workshops of one's choice, including Maharishi YogaSM asanas for mind-body integration, and principles of Consciousness-BasedSM education. Dive deep into the profound principles and applications of ancient Vedic knowledge, enjoy organic cuisine, and explore new horizons in an extraordinary town and campus like no other, where students regularly experience their own Self—that deep reservoir of peace and creativity within. Tour communities designed according to principles of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
On 07/10/2013 11:36 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting! Addressing the important issues! Yeah, but at least Judy and Barry format for easy reading. Go figure. Have you ever tried to read text on a 40 inch screen, from edge to edge. It looks so dumb when people do that. LoL! All they have to do is a little re-formatting - don't use the text wrap, just hit enter about keying 25 or 30 characters. Bhairitu: Still living in the 1980s, eh? Yahoo formats the posts anyway. And nothing looks worse than this for a short sentence. Text reads easier when formatted to book size and people are used to reading paragraphs in books and newspapers. Like this. Well I guess we know now who is viewing the web on a 4.3 inch screen. Go figure. Viewing in Thunderbird with 19 1440x900 monitor. You know what a window is? And yes smartphones need to be taken into account where inserted line breaks look even worse. I though you were supposed to be tech literate? Maybe, but I'm taking going to follow Judy and Barry's advice on the formatting - they've been doing this since at least 1995, and their posts ARE easier to read to respond to. The other posters are mostly a mish-mash of one-liners; sometimes you can't even tell what they're responding to, like MJ who insists on top-posting all the time. Even Vaj, who claimed to be a 'graphic artist' didn't know how to format a plain text message. Edg said he was a web page designer but he doesn't seem to realize that web pages display better for reading text in a text box width of about 720 pixels. Go figure. At least on Thunderbird you can select View Source and see that Yahoo formats the posts. Nobody who is serious about dialoging on Usenet uses an email reader like Thunderbird on a tiny screen like an Android or iPhone. Get real! I mean, if you're going to post smears about somebody like Andy raping a pundit boy, why not make it easy to read? Format like Barry does, not like Edg! LoL! This is the ONLY group I've ever read where ANYONE advocated line breaks. You are all stuck in the 1980s or maybe 1970s. Hell, in the early 1980s I wrote a text editor that did auto word wrap on a VIC-20! It's a very basic exercise you would give any first semester computer programming student. BTW, not hard to do either. Right now after writing the above paragraph it extend across the message pane which is a little over 2/3s screen width and using a smaller font that most people like to use. Now I resize the message pane and the text auto formats to fit the width of the message pane. Or are you are all still using CP/M? :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: nablusoss1008: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting! Addressing the important issues! This is important\ish. I read from the web (anyone doesn't ?) and ALL the f 43 pages appear and must be scrolled down to see the answer, or the next post. Since this is an issue of respect for many readers I'm sure Share, Dr.D and Judy will be happy to be hip and snip from now on !
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: nablusoss1008: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting! Addressing the important issues! This is important\ish. I read from the web (anyone doesn't ?) and ALL the f 43 pages appear and must be scrolled down to see the answer, or the next post. Since this is an issue of respect for many readers I'm sure Share, Dr.D and Judy will be happy to be hip and snip from now on ! As you know, Nabby, I usually DO snip and always have, so your Learn to snip! is inappropriate in my case. A reminder that I've missed doing so is fine. The problem you have is getting it across to Share, who doesn't believe the quoted part is visible at all in posts when they arrive via email. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
1. The absence of snipping keeps the original context. But often a reply is only directed to a portion of whatever was in a post, so it depends. 2. As information is viewed more and more electronically on a wide variety of screen sizes, the concept of a 'page' is becoming obsolete. One views a screen. To accommodate multiple screen sizes, text has to reflow. Fixed width formatting is not necessary and often a problem. Any original document needs to be able to reflow. Fixed-size design, such as a book is a liability with an electronic book, which has to be displayed with user selected typeface sizes on screens of various sizes. The problem is different viewing systems, e-mail, on-line forums often are programmed to reformat the message when making a reply. FFL is one of those places where the reformat can cause a lot of problems. Part of it is when requoting Yahoo reformats with those carats so you can sort out how far back in a discussion someone said something. If it is not relevant you can snip out the older content, or if it is a problem with your argument, you can snip it out to remove that annoying context. What is or is not relevant may not depend just on what you consider relevant. Judy and Barry format with newspaper sized columns. This works pretty well for preserving the format unless the material has been requoted in Yahoo many times, or the viewing screen is very small, then lines may break erratically. Note if you use the Rich Text interface in Yahoo, which is HTML, it handles format differently than if you use the plain text window. The other way to handle it is reformat the material and remove the extraneous line breaks that e-mail, Yahoo, and other software, put in. Computer operating system windowing on large screens means that you can reduce the width of the window size to reformat text that reflows to a convenient width. Complaining that you don't like a long line of text on a very large screen means you are lazy, and not making use of your computer's interface. Note, when he was here, Robin used to reformat all his discussions with people's names and a number to indicate how far back in the conversation or diatribe that was going on. That also worked well. Poetry requires fixed width formatting, but usually the lines are short. Ideally, because of the now vast difference in screen sizes, text that reflows is best so people can adjust their viewing for easiest reading. What Judy and Barry do with format by habit is OK, but most of us aren't programmed to do that. I almost never do it. But they are the bi-polar axes of this forum. Under 'Options' when reading a message on FFL in a browser while on Yahoo, there is an option to unwrap lines. This does not work with Judy's or Barry's posts because they insert line breaks. The difference is when requoting looks something like this: Unwrapped paragraph (three posts back requoted): Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text. Paragraph with manual line breaks: Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text. I often write in a text editor, and reduce those carats from something like: to Some software used on communicating to the forum seems to strip out the carats so it is hard to tell who is being quoted. Getting the cleanest message back onto the forum sometimes requires, if you have time, reformatting the message so it reflows properly. But it takes much more time to do with with messages and replies to messages that have manual line breaks. Thus no solution is going to be satisfactory to all of us.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: 1. The absence of snipping keeps the original context. But often a reply is only directed to a portion of whatever was in a post, so it depends. And besides, only the truly paranoid give a shit if someone snips part of what they said. I mean, give me a break...AS IF *anything* ever said on this forum was worth preserving its context. :-) Judy and Barry format with newspaper sized columns. This works pretty well for preserving the format unless the material has been requoted in Yahoo many times, or the viewing screen is very small, then lines may break erratically. I do it mainly out of habit, and because I'm a bit of a nitpicker when it comes to such things. If you haven't noticed, I often reformat the original quoted text so that it *doesn't* get messed up after multiple quotes. It's an OCD thang, perhaps, but it amuses me. :-) Note, when he was here, Robin used to reformat all his discussions with people's names and a number to indicate how far back in the conversation or diatribe that was going on. That also worked well. For you, perhaps. I thought it was the dumbest affectation I've ever seen on the Internet. I mean, *really*, he did it so that all of *his* precious words got reposted over and over and over, AS IF someone was actually going to read them this time. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Le Cafe des Affiches
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: (snip) Today was a *very* busy day at work, so I haven't checked out FFL since my last post, and haven't missed it in the least. I didn't even bother to go back and catch up tonight when I sat here. R-i-i-i-i-i-g-h-t. Why Barry still thinks what he says will be believed here is beyond me. He claims he didn't read any of the posts in order to deprive anyone who said anything bad about him of the pleasure of imagining his rage and frustration in reading them. Ooops. Nope, they can still have that pleasure.
[FairfieldLife] Le Cafe des Affiches
Here I am in Yet Another Cafe, this time a new one, in new 'hood. It caught my eye when I was wandering around last night, as did the fact that it had free Wifi, so I decided to come back tonight and spend some time here at a table in front of it. The cafe itself is not terribly crowded, which is a plus for me, but probably a bummer for the owners. I like it because, true to its name, its walls are covered with posters, from all eras of French poster art. I happen to own the originals of some of the copies on their walls, from the late 1800s series Les Maitres de l'Affiche and L'Estampes Modernes collections, so for me this is a little like being at home. Except for the people passing by, that is. If I sit outside my house in Leiden, I am not nearly as likely to be entertained by a street performer juggling while balancing a large bowl of goldfish on his head. Or by women competing for the obviously coveted Who Can Wear The Shortest Skirt Award. Or see hordes of tourists from all parts of the world walking by, gawking at all the shops, restaurants, and cafes like this one, many adorned with people sitting at tables like mine, also writing -- either in their paper notebooks, or on tablet computers or laptops. Guess I'm not the only person to gain some inspiration from people-watching. Hey, some people have weirder fascinations. Today was a *very* busy day at work, so I haven't checked out FFL since my last post, and haven't missed it in the least. I didn't even bother to go back and catch up tonight when I sat here. What's the point of doing that, after all? The people who talk *about* me are never going to say anything new, and the ones who actually talk *to* me haven't been posting much lately anyway. Meanwhile I get to sit here and just watch the crowds, relax after another Deadline Day, and really, really enjoy Paris At Its Best. Warm summer nights like this one are a delight. I get off on just watching everyone out and about, walking by. And if someone interesting sits at the next tables, I'll probably get off on chatting with them -- in English if need be, but if not, I'll stumble through a conversation in one of my many other not-quite-mastered languages. And to think...somewhere out there in FFL Land, there are people who can only get off if they can entice other people into arguing with them. I somehow think I've got the better deal...
[FairfieldLife] Help for the Insult-Challenged
You all know who I'm talking about. The people on this forum who seem to live for insulting the people they don't like, but who don't seem capable of thinking up any new or interesting insults. Many of them, like Jimbo and Ravi and Ann, just parrot the last insult that their groupie-mistress used, and to them that seems clever. For others, who might want to interject a bit more creativity (or at the very least, humor) into the insults they hurl, I post this handy visual aid. Print it out, and tape it next to your computer. Then, when you next feel the need to let fly with one, follow the instructions below. Voila...you'll sound smarter, even if you aren't. :-) [http://i.imgur.com/Y86UvwR.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help for the Insult-Challenged
If you are lazy you can use this: http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help for the Insult-Challenged
(-: PS to Nablusoss: sorry for not snipping From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help for the Insult-Challenged If you are lazy you can use this: http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html?
[FairfieldLife] World Wide Perceptions of Corruption
Ranking of countries by corruption: The best (those with least corruption) Tied for First Place Denmark Finland New Zealand The worst (most corruption) Tied for Last Place Afghanistan North Korea Somalia http://www.transparency.org/cpi2012/results
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help for the Insult-Challenged
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: If you are lazy you can use this: http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html? Even better. Judy would be unable to use the page I posted earlier, because liar does not appear in the third column. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Le Cafe des Affiches
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Here I am in Yet Another Cafe, this time a new one, in new 'hood. It caught my eye when I was wandering around last night, as did the fact that it had free Wifi, so I decided to come back tonight and spend some time here at a table in front of it. The cafe itself is not terribly crowded, which is a plus for me, but probably a bummer for the owners. I like it because, true to its name, its walls are covered with posters, from all eras of French poster art. I happen to own the originals of some of the copies on their walls, from the late 1800s series Les Maitres de l'Affiche and L'Estampes Modernes collections, so for me this is a little like being at home. Except for the people passing by, that is. If I sit outside my house in Leiden, I am not nearly as likely to be entertained by a street performer juggling while balancing a large bowl of goldfish on his head. Or by women competing for the obviously coveted Who Can Wear The Shortest Skirt Award. Or see hordes of tourists from all parts of the world walking by, gawking at all the shops, restaurants, and cafes like this one, many adorned with people sitting at tables like mine, also writing -- either in their paper notebooks, or on tablet computers or laptops. Guess I'm not the only person to gain some inspiration from people-watching. Hey, some people have weirder fascinations. Today was a *very* busy day at work, so I haven't checked out FFL since my last post, and haven't missed it in the least. I didn't even bother to go back and catch up tonight when I sat here. What's the point of doing that, after all? The people who talk *about* me are never going to say anything new, and the ones who actually talk *to* me haven't been posting much lately anyway. Yes, excellent point and you are very savvy not to read the forum to which you contribute. I mean, no one really has anything very new, original or non-argumentative to say. It is best to leave them be, to stew in their own morass of ill will and repetitiveness. You definitely have figured out the key to existing and flourishing here at FFL, you with your rich, metropolitan lifestyle and devil-may-care attractive swagger. I wish I was you Barry, all suave and world-wise and lucky, lucky, lucky to be seated at this cozy French cafe just watching the world go by. I think I can not but envy you; my life is so drab in comparison. Meanwhile I get to sit here and just watch the crowds, relax after another Deadline Day, and really, really enjoy Paris At Its Best. Warm summer nights like this one are a delight. I get off on just watching everyone out and about, walking by. And if someone interesting sits at the next tables, I'll probably get off on chatting with them -- in English if need be, but if not, I'll stumble through a conversation in one of my many other not-quite-mastered languages. I had no idea you were near fluent in many languages. This is just one more feather in your cap and how I wish I, too, could converse with multiple cultures - comfortable in any language with complete strangers. And to think...somewhere out there in FFL Land, there are people who can only get off if they can entice other people into arguing with them. I know, I have come to realize that I am surrounded by cretins and, not only that, I am one of them. I am turning over a new leaf; no more enticing, no more arguing. I am on a mission to become JUST LIKE YOU. Please enjoy some escargots and a baguette for me, if only I could be there with you. Have a wonderful evening. I somehow think I've got the better deal...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: 1. The absence of snipping keeps the original context. But often a reply is only directed to a portion of whatever was in a post, so it depends. And besides, only the truly paranoid give a shit if someone snips part of what they said. I mean, give me a break...AS IF *anything* ever said on this forum was worth preserving its context. :-) Judy and Barry format with newspaper sized columns. This works pretty well for preserving the format unless the material has been requoted in Yahoo many times, or the viewing screen is very small, then lines may break erratically. I do it mainly out of habit, and because I'm a bit of a nitpicker when it comes to such things. If you haven't noticed, I often reformat the original quoted text so that it *doesn't* get messed up after multiple quotes. It's an OCD thang, perhaps, but it amuses me. :-) Note, when he was here, Robin used to reformat all his discussions with people's names and a number to indicate how far back in the conversation or diatribe that was going on. That also worked well. For you, perhaps. I thought it was the dumbest affectation I've ever seen on the Internet. I mean, *really*, he did it so that all of *his* precious words got reposted over and over and over, AS IF someone was actually going to read them this time. :-) Been a while at the cafe now Barry? You seem to have crossed the threshold and just consumed your mean drink. That usually means about the third of fourth of the night.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help for the Insult-Challenged
Barry must be having a lonely time at the cafe, no one to talk to. This is evident by the fact that he keeps posting tonight. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: You all know who I'm talking about. The people on this forum who seem to live for insulting the people they don't like, but who don't seem capable of thinking up any new or interesting insults. Many of them, like Jimbo and Ravi and Ann, just parrot the last insult that their groupie-mistress used, and to them that seems clever. For others, who might want to interject a bit more creativity (or at the very least, humor) into the insults they hurl, I post this handy visual aid. Print it out, and tape it next to your computer. Then, when you next feel the need to let fly with one, follow the instructions below. Voila...you'll sound smarter, even if you aren't. :-) [http://i.imgur.com/Y86UvwR.jpg]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
On 07/10/2013 01:34 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 1. The absence of snipping keeps the original context. But often a reply is only directed to a portion of whatever was in a post, so it depends. 2. As information is viewed more and more electronically on a wide variety of screen sizes, the concept of a 'page' is becoming obsolete. One views a screen. To accommodate multiple screen sizes, text has to reflow. Fixed width formatting is not necessary and often a problem. Any original document needs to be able to reflow. Fixed-size design, such as a book is a liability with an electronic book, which has to be displayed with user selected typeface sizes on screens of various sizes. The problem is different viewing systems, e-mail, on-line forums often are programmed to reformat the message when making a reply. FFL is one of those places where the reformat can cause a lot of problems. Part of it is when requoting Yahoo reformats with those carats so you can sort out how far back in a discussion someone said something. If it is not relevant you can snip out the older content, or if it is a problem with your argument, you can snip it out to remove that annoying context. What is or is not relevant may not depend just on what you consider relevant. Judy and Barry format with newspaper sized columns. This works pretty well for preserving the format unless the material has been requoted in Yahoo many times, or the viewing screen is very small, then lines may break erratically. Note if you use the Rich Text interface in Yahoo, which is HTML, it handles format differently than if you use the plain text window. The other way to handle it is reformat the material and remove the extraneous line breaks that e-mail, Yahoo, and other software, put in. Computer operating system windowing on large screens means that you can reduce the width of the window size to reformat text that reflows to a convenient width. Complaining that you don't like a long line of text on a very large screen means you are lazy, and not making use of your computer's interface. Note, when he was here, Robin used to reformat all his discussions with people's names and a number to indicate how far back in the conversation or diatribe that was going on. That also worked well. Poetry requires fixed width formatting, but usually the lines are short. Ideally, because of the now vast difference in screen sizes, text that reflows is best so people can adjust their viewing for easiest reading. What Judy and Barry do with format by habit is OK, but most of us aren't programmed to do that. I almost never do it. But they are the bi-polar axes of this forum. Under 'Options' when reading a message on FFL in a browser while on Yahoo, there is an option to unwrap lines. This does not work with Judy's or Barry's posts because they insert line breaks. The difference is when requoting looks something like this: Unwrapped paragraph (three posts back requoted): Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text. Paragraph with manual line breaks: Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text. I often write in a text editor, and reduce those carats from something like: to Some software used on communicating to the forum seems to strip out the carats so it is hard to tell who is being quoted. Getting the cleanest message back onto the forum sometimes requires, if you have time, reformatting the message so it reflows properly. But it takes much more time to do with with messages and replies to messages that have manual line breaks. Thus no solution is going to be satisfactory to all of us. The way people post here it would be better if FFL were a BBS style forum where it is all web and if you only quote something from a previous post when needed and you can select how much of a previous post you want to quote. And those always format correctly regardless of the pane size. Given the folks here that probably wouldn't be very much of a previous post quoted. Plus with a BBS style forum Rick could even have a Gaspump section. We cound have a movies and TV section, a TB'ers section, an astrology section, an ayurvedic section, a politics section, aging teens section, etc, etc, etc. And who knows, Marissa may get the idea to do away with Yahoo Groups as being unprofitable. Not to mention I'm sure Alex would love maintaining forum software. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help for the Insult-Challenged
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: You all know who I'm talking about. The people on this forum who seem to live for insulting the people they don't like, but who don't seem capable of thinking up any new or interesting insults. Many of them, like Jimbo and Ravi and Ann, just parrot the last insult that their groupie-mistress used, and to them that seems clever. How does Barry know when he doesn't read our posts? (guffaw) Busted. I did never know so full a voice issue from so empty a heart: but the saying is trueThe empty vessel makes the greatest sound.--Henry V
[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: (snip) The way people post here it would be better if FFL were a BBS style forum where it is all web and if you only quote something from a previous post when needed and you can select how much of a previous post you want to quote. Do you have trouble doing this, Bhairitu? I never have. Is that a limitation of Thunderbird, that you can't delete any of the post you're responding to?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help for the Insult-Challenged
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: (-: PS to Nablusoss: sorry for not snipping You already apologized. Does it make you seem more wonderful to yourself if you do it twice? (And you're responding to Xeno in any case, not Nabby. Has life become more confusing to you lately?)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Le Cafe des Affiches
Thanks for these post Barry - I enjoy them. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Le Cafe des Affiches Here I am in Yet Another Cafe, this time a new one, in new 'hood. It caught my eye when I was wandering around last night, as did the fact that it had free Wifi, so I decided to come back tonight and spend some time here at a table in front of it. The cafe itself is not terribly crowded, which is a plus for me, but probably a bummer for the owners. I like it because, true to its name, its walls are covered with posters, from all eras of French poster art. I happen to own the originals of some of the copies on their walls, from the late 1800s series Les Maitres de l'Affiche and L'Estampes Modernes collections, so for me this is a little like being at home. Except for the people passing by, that is. If I sit outside my house in Leiden, I am not nearly as likely to be entertained by a street performer juggling while balancing a large bowl of goldfish on his head. Or by women competing for the obviously coveted Who Can Wear The Shortest Skirt Award. Or see hordes of tourists from all parts of the world walking by, gawking at all the shops, restaurants, and cafes like this one, many adorned with people sitting at tables like mine, also writing -- either in their paper notebooks, or on tablet computers or laptops. Guess I'm not the only person to gain some inspiration from people-watching. Hey, some people have weirder fascinations. Today was a *very* busy day at work, so I haven't checked out FFL since my last post, and haven't missed it in the least. I didn't even bother to go back and catch up tonight when I sat here. What's the point of doing that, after all? The people who talk *about* me are never going to say anything new, and the ones who actually talk *to* me haven't been posting much lately anyway. Meanwhile I get to sit here and just watch the crowds, relax after another Deadline Day, and really, really enjoy Paris At Its Best. Warm summer nights like this one are a delight. I get off on just watching everyone out and about, walking by. And if someone interesting sits at the next tables, I'll probably get off on chatting with them -- in English if need be, but if not, I'll stumble through a conversation in one of my many other not-quite-mastered languages. And to think...somewhere out there in FFL Land, there are people who can only get off if they can entice other people into arguing with them. I somehow think I've got the better deal...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Le Cafe des Affiches
There are no decent cafes from which to write here in South Carolina, neither for the people watching or the food, unfortunately. Now if you want tea and coffee and some doughnuts, there are any number of churches that serve them up as a part of the Wednesday night meet and greet. I once was showing a friend of a friend around (the guy was from the Netherlands in fact) and he exclaimed There is a church on every corner! I had not noticed before, but after he commented on it, I realized he was pretty close to being accurate, maybe not on every corner, but just about on every block it seems like. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Le Cafe des Affiches Here I am in Yet Another Cafe, this time a new one, in new 'hood. It caught my eye when I was wandering around last night, as did the fact that it had free Wifi, so I decided to come back tonight and spend some time here at a table in front of it. The cafe itself is not terribly crowded, which is a plus for me, but probably a bummer for the owners. I like it because, true to its name, its walls are covered with posters, from all eras of French poster art. I happen to own the originals of some of the copies on their walls, from the late 1800s series Les Maitres de l'Affiche and L'Estampes Modernes collections, so for me this is a little like being at home. Except for the people passing by, that is. If I sit outside my house in Leiden, I am not nearly as likely to be entertained by a street performer juggling while balancing a large bowl of goldfish on his head. Or by women competing for the obviously coveted Who Can Wear The Shortest Skirt Award. Or see hordes of tourists from all parts of the world walking by, gawking at all the shops, restaurants, and cafes like this one, many adorned with people sitting at tables like mine, also writing -- either in their paper notebooks, or on tablet computers or laptops. Guess I'm not the only person to gain some inspiration from people-watching. Hey, some people have weirder fascinations. Today was a *very* busy day at work, so I haven't checked out FFL since my last post, and haven't missed it in the least. I didn't even bother to go back and catch up tonight when I sat here. What's the point of doing that, after all? The people who talk *about* me are never going to say anything new, and the ones who actually talk *to* me haven't been posting much lately anyway. Meanwhile I get to sit here and just watch the crowds, relax after another Deadline Day, and really, really enjoy Paris At Its Best. Warm summer nights like this one are a delight. I get off on just watching everyone out and about, walking by. And if someone interesting sits at the next tables, I'll probably get off on chatting with them -- in English if need be, but if not, I'll stumble through a conversation in one of my many other not-quite-mastered languages. And to think...somewhere out there in FFL Land, there are people who can only get off if they can entice other people into arguing with them. I somehow think I've got the better deal...
[FairfieldLife] 41 M reasons!
http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/06/19/41-million-reasons-to-zoom-in-to-nokia-conversations-on-july-11th/ Team Yellow zooms in to New York RoFLoL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?
I love this woman! Alpha female of FFL! I bow! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: Looks like you *did* get something out of TM... Let it go and take it as it comes. But then, maybe you've always lived that. I don't read enough Barry posts to know I have, I do, and he hasn't. He used to be as argumentative as anyone else here. He was on alt.meditation.transcendental too. Thing is, he isn't *good* at arguing. His grasp of logic is poor, to say the least, and his memory stinks. The only way he knew (and still knows) how to argue is by using exaggeration, distortion, and outright falsehood. He kept getting called on his failures to make a solid case, and some years back he finally realized he'd be better off pretending he was so egoless he didn't *need* to argue or defend his opinions. Not long after that he started proclaiming his Do Not Read List, which enabled him to pretend he wasn't responding to the posts of certain people because he didn't read their posts, when actually his Do Not Read List was composed of people whom he knew he couldn't out-argue. At one point a week or so ago, he announced that he had *started* reading all the posts again, and he began to respond to those on his Do Not Read List. But his replies were insane, ridiculously over the top, out of control, completely out of touch with reality. He has apparently realized he was making himself look terrible, so he's gone back to his earlier stance and is pretending it's one he's always taken, seemingly hoping everyone has already forgotten his brief departure from it and how disastrous that was. , but I have a feeling that post is going to generate a lot of arguing, LOL! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Does the size of one's ego equate to their need to argue?  I find myself pondering this in my writing cafe this evening, because as far as I can tell, given the extent of my eavesdropping French, no one at this cafe is arguing about *anything*. The closest anyone came to it was to have a minor dispute about which wine to order with their dinner, and that was resolved amicably by appealing to the gods of chance (flipping a coin) rather than by an appeal to authority or an assertion of My opinion about this is better than yours, and that's that. Yet on this forum (judging from the posts I skip these days but can grok the essence of just from their first words in Message View), some people not *only* seem to have a constant need to argue, they *also* seem to have a corollary need to portray anyone who *won't* argue with them as broken or defective or bad in some way. Go figure. From my point of view, the desire to argue indicates attachment. Period. Full stop. Those who are SO attached to their point of view that they feel the need to argue it and assert its dominance over other points of view are *attached* to that point of view. They *identify* with that point of view, and confuse it with who they are. But, to carry the rap one step further, the *need* to argue indicates a horribly corpulent ego, and narcissism...and one steaming shovelful of both. The *ultimate* expression of ego -- and the neediness that drives such people to assert their ego's supremacy over all others -- is IMO those who argue (literally) that anyone who isn't willing *to* argue with them *has something wrong with them*. From my point of view, that's completely backasswards. It's those who continually feel the need to assert their ego's silly ideas and beliefs as better or more valid than other people's who just might have something wrong with them. Such people really don't get it when they encounter someone who is able to put their opinion on a subject into one post, and then is *through*. If someone wants to reply to it and present a contrary opinion, that's just fine with them, but they don't feel any need to respond, or to defend their opinion. It *IS*, after all, just opinion. But some get SO attached to their ego's opinions that they come to believe that if any of them are challenged, that is somehow almost a challenge to their ego's existence. Can't have that. :-) Gotta try to badger such people into an argument, or insult them into an argument, or actually slander them into an argument, as some here have done. Seems kinda silly to me. Stopping my writing and eavesdropping again for a few minutes, I can tell that it seems kinda silly to the Parisians in this cafe with me, too. Compare and contrast to those whose words to St. Peter, when asked to relate their achievements back on Earth as an
[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Spiritually Transmitted Diseases
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, I'll let you decide for yourself: I've been doing TM since March 29, 1975 and in that time have missed between 5 and 10 meditations, usually because of travel or sickness. As for my bad behavior, IMO I've done my best to make amends. Your best is none too good. There are piles and piles of your bad behavior that you haven't made the slightest effort to make amends for. And of course the one piece of *inexcusably* bad behavior for which you refuse to apologize. ...and have wisely pursued healing modalities to insure that I don't do the bad behavior again. I am not sure that 'healing' can fix behaviour that other people think is bad or good. There are behaviours in some countries that would be considered rather normal, that would put us in prison in the United States. If you have a negative reaction to having done something, that is, a reaction that feels bad not because someone reacted to what you did, but because you reacted that way to what you did, that is a clue that maybe that action could be called bad, and you could try to steer away from that in the future. Its trickier when someone else calls it bad because then you are dealing with a description of someone else's world view; there is no internal impetus to change in that case, unless sufficient resources can be applied externally to you to 'adjust' your behaviour. Share: They aren't working. Your bad behavior continues. I think this is all we can ask of us humans who are bound to make mistakes. I also offer as proof of being dedicated to spiritual liberation is the fact that I continue on FFL and in particular read Xeno's posts carefully. Did Robin ever ask Share for an apology? To Share: If somebody is asking one to apologise on behalf of someone else, I would not do it. But also, I would be a little more careful of following advice. Because nothing we think about is true on the level of thinking, you should not trust what others think, or what you think. That includes anything I say too. The sense of the direction to take seems to work better when the mind is silent. People who are constantly asking for apologies might be trying to control your behaviour by trying to induce a feeling of guilt. Tell them to fuck off. They do not have the space in their hearts to forgive you, so they will not give you the space to really accept an apology. The tension on both sides has to ramp down before an apology becomes meaningful. (horselaugh) Careful, horse meat might be making a comeback in the United States, even though there is a rather strong taboo here about eating horses. Maybe cannibalism might become more popular too. Note that in the Netherlands, you can buy horse meat in the market: [Smoked Horse Meat in Netherlands Market]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Nq48sHF8M --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: nablusoss1008: Judy just posted 43 pages to FFL. Do learn to snip before posting! Addressing the important issues! This is important\ish. I read from the web (anyone doesn't ?) and ALL the f 43 pages appear and must be scrolled down to see the answer, or the next post. Since this is an issue of respect for many readers I'm sure Share, Dr.D and Judy will be happy to be hip and snip from now on !
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
On 07/10/2013 02:49 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: (snip) The way people post here it would be better if FFL were a BBS style forum where it is all web and if you only quote something from a previous post when needed and you can select how much of a previous post you want to quote. Do you have trouble doing this, Bhairitu? I never have. Is that a limitation of Thunderbird, that you can't delete any of the post you're responding to? No Judy, I obviously don't have any problem formating text any way I want. No, Thunderbird does not have such limitations and in fact you can do a whole lot more than you can ever do with the Yahoo Groups web interface. Perhaps you ought to try it sometime. I'm sure why you didn't get where I said the way people post here. When developing software we look at how users use an interface. Since people are bitching about snipping then I think that a forum web site would work better. FYI, Yahoo Groups is not that. Perhaps you ought to find a forum like what I am talking about. Perhaps something related to your field and see what one is like. You would immediately see that replying to a post does NOT include the text from the previous post unless you want to quote something from one or many previous posts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Yes indeed. But I know Xeno will reply to this and he will stun Emily into submission with his profound insights and his amazing wisdom and brilliance. Sorry Emily - I can't wait for Xeno's response !!! His compelling response will expertly and eclectically mix elements from Buddhism, Neuroscience, philosophy - it will be littered with we, us, they them. It will be completely devoid of the egoistic I and me. Xeno will exhort us to approach this issue from his own superior disinterested, detached, neutral vantage point. He will force us to realize that at an impersonal, universal level there is no such thing as truth or facts and will persuade us to rise above our pettiness. He will let us know that he himself was completely unaffected by Robin's behavior and was merely moved by Share's plight to extend his compassion. And then he will conclude his post by providing links to the latest article on sociopathy in Psychology Today and yet again imply that Robin makes him uncomfortable and of course he will once again stress that it's just a hypothesis of his. Oh poor Emily - you're toast. I have not replied to that post of Emily's yet Ravi. Sometimes I pick my nose. Do you pick yours too? I have to give you something though - a few words from 'M.E. Thomas' the sociopath who writes on her blog SociopathWorld: 'I try not to let my diagnosis of being a sociopath define me or change me. One of my friends told me, I think wisely, I wish that you had never heard of the word sociopath, that you just lived your life without knowing that there was a label for what you are. Labels can be very limiting and I wouldn't want to ever be frozen, without making any effort to grow and develop as a person.'
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
Xeno baby - either show some intelligence, surprise me or don't respond with retarded crap and retain your dignity. You don't want to be another Barry or Share - do you? At least I have higher hopes, expectations for you because you don't seem to be as emotionally, psychologically stunted stunted as them. Remember I am always up for surprises, not that I am expecting one from you though - so will you follow the template below or will you surprise me? I can't wait Xeno baby. You can always retain your dignity by not responding to Emily's post. On 7/10/13 4:13 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Yes indeed. But I know Xeno will reply to this and he will stun Emily into submission with his profound insights and his amazing wisdom and brilliance. Sorry Emily - I can't wait for Xeno's response !!! His compelling response will expertly and eclectically mix elements from Buddhism, Neuroscience, philosophy - it will be littered with we, us, they them. It will be completely devoid of the egoistic I and me. Xeno will exhort us to approach this issue from his own superior disinterested, detached, neutral vantage point. He will force us to realize that at an impersonal, universal level there is no such thing as truth or facts and will persuade us to rise above our pettiness. He will let us know that he himself was completely unaffected by Robin's behavior and was merely moved by Share's plight to extend his compassion. And then he will conclude his post by providing links to the latest article on sociopathy in Psychology Today and yet again imply that Robin makes him uncomfortable and of course he will once again stress that it's just a hypothesis of his. Oh poor Emily - you're toast. I have not replied to that post of Emily's yet Ravi. Sometimes I pick my nose. Do you pick yours too? I have to give you something though - a few words from 'M.E. Thomas' the sociopath who writes on her blog SociopathWorld: 'I try not to let my diagnosis of being a sociopath define me or change me. One of my friends told me, I think wisely, I wish that you had never heard of the word sociopath, that you just lived your life without knowing that there was a label for what you are. Labels can be very limiting and I wouldn't want to ever be frozen, without making any effort to grow and develop as a person.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
True, Bairitu. That rhymed, so I thought I would post it. lol Just to add more line for someone to snip. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/10/2013 02:49 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: (snip) The way people post here it would be better if FFL were a BBS style forum where it is all web and if you only quote something from a previous post when needed and you can select how much of a previous post you want to quote. Do you have trouble doing this, Bhairitu? I never have. Is that a limitation of Thunderbird, that you can't delete any of the post you're responding to? No Judy, I obviously don't have any problem formating text any way I want. No, Thunderbird does not have such limitations and in fact you can do a whole lot more than you can ever do with the Yahoo Groups web interface. Perhaps you ought to try it sometime. I'm sure why you didn't get where I said the way people post here. When developing software we look at how users use an interface. Since people are bitching about snipping then I think that a forum web site would work better. FYI, Yahoo Groups is not that. Perhaps you ought to find a forum like what I am talking about. Perhaps something related to your field and see what one is like. You would immediately see that replying to a post does NOT include the text from the previous post unless you want to quote something from one or many previous posts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help for the Insult-Challenged
Thou bawdy onion-eyed codpiece! Thank you! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: You all know who I'm talking about. The people on this forum who seem to live for insulting the people they don't like, but who don't seem capable of thinking up any new or interesting insults. Many of them, like Jimbo and Ravi and Ann, just parrot the last insult that their groupie-mistress used, and to them that seems clever. For others, who might want to interject a bit more creativity (or at the very least, humor) into the insults they hurl, I post this handy visual aid. Print it out, and tape it next to your computer. Then, when you next feel the need to let fly with one, follow the instructions below. Voila...you'll sound smarter, even if you aren't. :-) [http://i.imgur.com/Y86UvwR.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Xeno baby - either show some intelligence, surprise me or don't respond with retarded crap and retain your dignity. You don't want to be another Barry or Share - do you? At least I have higher hopes, expectations for you because you don't seem to be as emotionally, psychologically stunted stunted as them. Remember I am always up for surprises, not that I am expecting one from you though - so will you follow the template below or will you surprise me? I can't wait Xeno baby. You can always retain your dignity by not responding to Emily's post. I always thought 'dignity' was some kind of egotistical posturing. Probably something that appeals to you. Why would I need it? What is it good for?
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 11-Jul-13 00:15:02 UTC
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[FairfieldLife] Episode 3 of Codefellas
Codefellas Episode 3: How to Hack a Website http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW6GE-kmP64 Heads up for Netflixers as Jenji Kohan's (Weeds) new comedy series Orange is the New Black becomes available tomorrow (July 11th). Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=nryWkAaWjKg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
On 7/10/13 5:07 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Xeno baby - either show some intelligence, surprise me or don't respond with retarded crap and retain your dignity. You don't want to be another Barry or Share - do you? At least I have higher hopes, expectations for you because you don't seem to be as emotionally, psychologically stunted stunted as them. Remember I am always up for surprises, not that I am expecting one from you though - so will you follow the template below or will you surprise me? I can't wait Xeno baby. You can always retain your dignity by not responding to Emily's post. I always thought 'dignity' was some kind of egotistical posturing. Probably something that appeals to you. Why would I need it? What is it good for? Let me know once you start to feel suffocated in your pseudo-Eastern, impersonal, disinterested universal Self cell Xeno baby - you will really understand the concept of dignity better then. Because right now you seem quite clueless, totally oblivious of and reveling in your masochistic, retarded, indignified responses.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Spiritually Transmitted Diseases
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) As for my bad behavior, IMO I've done my best to make amends. Your best is none too good. There are piles and piles of your bad behavior that you haven't made the slightest effort to make amends for. And of course the one piece of *inexcusably* bad behavior for which you refuse to apologize. (snip) Did Robin ever ask Share for an apology? Completely irrelevant. It's shocking that you would actually try to *dissuade* her from apologizing. That supports her very worst behavior. Because nothing we think about is true on the level of thinking, This is bullshit, Xeno's all-purpose excuse for all kinds of bad behavior and means of wiggling out of all kinds of stupidities. People who are constantly asking for apologies How about people who have asked for one apology for one particularly atrocious deed? might be trying to control your behaviour by trying to induce a feeling of guilt. Or they might be trying to get you to apologize. Sometimes a cigar... Tell them to fuck off. They do not have the space in their hearts to forgive you, so they will not give you the space to really accept an apology. Speak for yourself, Xeno. Or perhaps more appropriately, fuck off.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/10/2013 02:49 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: (snip) The way people post here it would be better if FFL were a BBS style forum where it is all web and if you only quote something from a previous post when needed and you can select how much of a previous post you want to quote. Do you have trouble doing this, Bhairitu? I never have. Is that a limitation of Thunderbird, that you can't delete any of the post you're responding to? No Judy, I obviously don't have any problem formating text any way I want. No, Thunderbird does not have such limitations and in fact you can do a whole lot more than you can ever do with the Yahoo Groups web interface. I have no doubt of that. But the things you said it would be better if one could do on FFL *are things one can already do on FFL*. Perhaps you ought to try it sometime. I'm sure why you didn't get where I said the way people post here. I think you mean I'm NOT sure why you didn't get... It doesn't make any sense, that's why. Perhaps you left some words out? You do that a lot, you know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Let me know once you start to feel suffocated in your pseudo-Eastern, impersonal, disinterested universal Self cell Xeno baby - you will really understand the concept of dignity better then. Because right now you seem quite clueless, totally oblivious of and reveling in your masochistic, retarded, indignified responses. Gee, sorry Ravi. I did not realise you would be unable to answer a couple of simple questions. By the way 'indignified' is not yet considered a word in the English language. There is a word 'indignity' and a word 'undignified'.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Formatting, was Please learn to snip !
On 07/10/2013 05:27 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/10/2013 02:49 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: (snip) The way people post here it would be better if FFL were a BBS style forum where it is all web and if you only quote something from a previous post when needed and you can select how much of a previous post you want to quote. Do you have trouble doing this, Bhairitu? I never have. Is that a limitation of Thunderbird, that you can't delete any of the post you're responding to? No Judy, I obviously don't have any problem formating text any way I want. No, Thunderbird does not have such limitations and in fact you can do a whole lot more than you can ever do with the Yahoo Groups web interface. I have no doubt of that. But the things you said it would be better if one could do on FFL *are things one can already do on FFL*. Takes more work. A forum means that you have to work to add in comments from prior posts. That is preferable. Perhaps you ought to try it sometime. I'm sure why you didn't get where I said the way people post here. I think you mean I'm NOT sure why you didn't get... It doesn't make any sense, that's why. Perhaps you left some words out? You do that a lot, you know. Okay I left NOT out. It's a typo. You still got the gist. Lots of people here make typos. BFD.
[FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: (snip) Remember I am always up for surprises, not that I am expecting one from you though - so will you follow the template below or will you surprise me? I can't wait Xeno baby. You can always retain your dignity by not responding to Emily's post. I always thought 'dignity' was some kind of egotistical posturing. No, no. If dignity were egotistical posturing, Ravi wouldn't need to suggest it to you.
[FairfieldLife] How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide
Franklin Merrell-Wolff (younger readers will have to look him up on Wikipedia as he's fallen into obscurity in recent years) claimed that he never learned a single meditation practice that he didn't have to tweak before he could get the maximum benefits from the practice. I have to confess, I've had the same experience with TM. The effortless repetition (or favouring) of the mantra for sure elicited some dramatic changes in consciousness, including (on rounding courses) experiences of Richard Bucke-style cosmic consciousness. But the TM technique always insisted one concentrate (if concentrate is the right word) on hearing the subtle sound of the syllable - with no reference given to where ones vision (perhaps a better expression is inner vision) might be centred. I've since found that, for me, allowing my inner vision awareness to centre on the space immediately in front of my eyes greatly enhances the effects of TM and makes me more centred immediately after a mediation session. (I'm not actually crossed-eyed (!) during my sessions, but presumably the location does suggest the Ajna chakra.) I've heard that other spiritual groups recommend centring ones attention on the Ajna chakra if you're more the thinking type - that would describe me - but they also recommend centring attention on the heart chakra if you're more the touchy-feely type. By the way, dire warnings are given (especially by Theosophical-influenced groups) on allowing one's attention to centre on the lower - the root or genital chakras - unless you're sexually pure as that can increase one's libido and lead to sexual obsessions - or sex addiction as modern parlance has it. Now, only being myself your bog-standard meditator, I'm curious if other (more advanced) FFL posters have experienced a similar effect to me. That is, combining mantra favouring with relaxed, inner visual attention centred in front of the eyes has improved your results. And also I'm curious if those of you who took TM-sidha training, or trained as teachers, ever heard Maharishi mention chakras to your inner core of true believers . . . By the way, if what I'm saying sounds presumptuous why not give it a try yourself for a few days?
[FairfieldLife] Just talk into your Android phone - they need to know all about you.
The NSA Has Inserted Its Code Into Android OS, Or Three Quarters Of All Smartphones Zero Hedge July 10, 2013 Big brother supervised fun never stops in Stasi 2.0 world. Over a decade ago, it was discovered that the NSA embedded backdoor access into Windows 95, and likely into virtually all other subsequent internet connected, desktop-based operating systems. However, with the passage of time, more and more people went mobile, and as a result the NSA had to adapt. And adapt they have: as Bloomberg reports, The NSA is quietly writing code for Google's Android OS. Is it ironic that the same don't be evil Google which went to such great lengths in the aftermath of the Snowden scandal to wash its hands of snooping on its customers and even filed a request with the secretive FISA court http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-18/google-challenges-surveillance\ -gag-order-squares-nsa-secrecy-against-first-amendment asking permission to disclose more information about the government's data requests, is embedding NSA code into its mobile operating system, which according to IDC runs on three-quarters of all smartphones shipped in the first quarter? Yes, yes it is. Google spokeswoman Gina Scigliano confirms that the company has already inserted some of the NSA's programming in Android OS. All Android code and contributors are publicly available for review at source.android.com. Scigliano says, declining to comment further. From Bloomberg: Through its open-source Android project, Google has agreed to incorporate code, first developed by the agency in 2011, into future versions of its mobile operating system, which according to market researcher IDC runs on three-quarters of the smartphones shipped globally in the first quarter. NSA officials say their code, known as Security Enhancements for Android, isolates apps to prevent hackers and marketers from gaining access to personal or corporate data stored on a device.Eventually all new phones, tablets, televisions, cars, and other devices that rely on Android will include NSA code, agency spokeswoman Vanee' Vines said in an e-mailed statement. NSA researcher Stephen Smalley, who works on the program, says, Our goal is to raise the bar in the security of commodity mobile devices. See, there's no need to worry: the reason the NSA is generously providing the source code for every Google-based smartphone is for your own security. Oh but it's open-sourced, so someone else will intercept any and all attempts at malice. We forgot. The story continues: In a 2011 presentation obtained by Bloomberg Businessweek, Smalley listed among the benefits of the program that it's normally invisible to users. The program's top goal, according to that presentation: Improve our understanding of Android security. Well one wouldn't want their bug to be visible to users now, would one Vines wouldn't say whether the agency's work on Android and other software is part of or helps with Prism. The source code is publicly available for anyone to use, and that includes the ability to review the code line by line, she said in her statement. Most of the NSA's suggested additions to the operating system can already be found buried in Google's latest releaseon newer devices including Sony's Xperia Z, HTC's One, and Samsung Electronics' Galaxy S4. Although the features are not turned on by default, according to agency documentation, future versions will be. In May the Pentagon approved the use of smartphones and tablets that run Samsung's mobile enterprise software, Knox, which also includes NSA programming, the company wrote in a June white paper. Sony, HTC, and Samsung declined to comment. Apple appears to be immune from this unprecedented breach of customer loyalty, if only for now, although open-sourced Linux may not be as lucky: Apple (AAPL) does not accept source code from any government agencies for any of our operating systems or other products, says Kristin Huguet, a spokeswoman for the company. It's not known if any other proprietary operating systems are using NSA code.SE for Android is an offshoot of a long-running NSA project called Security-Enhanced Linux. That code was integrated a decade ago into the main version of the open-source operating system, the server platform of choice for Internet leaders including Google, Facebook (FB), and Yahoo! (YHOO). Jeff Zemlin, the executive director of the Linux Foundation, says the NSA didn't add any obvious means of eavesdropping. This code was peer-reviewed by a lot of people, he says. But that's not all: The NSA developed a separate Android project because Google's mobile OS required markedly different programming, according to Smalley's 2011 presentation. Brian Honan, an information technology consultant in Dublin, says his clients in European governments and multinational corporations are worried about how vulnerable their data are when dealing with U.S. companies. The information security world had been preoccupied with Chinese
[FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Yes indeed. But I know Xeno will reply to this and he will stun Emily into submission with his profound insights and his amazing wisdom and brilliance. Sorry Emily - I can't wait for Xeno's response !!! His compelling response will expertly and eclectically mix elements from Buddhism, Neuroscience, philosophy - it will be littered with we, us, they them. It will be completely devoid of the egoistic I and me. Xeno will exhort us to approach this issue from his own superior disinterested, detached, neutral vantage point. He will force us to realize that at an impersonal, universal level there is no such thing as truth or facts and will persuade us to rise above our pettiness. He will let us know that he himself was completely unaffected by Robin's behavior and was merely moved by Share's plight to extend his compassion. And then he will conclude his post by providing links to the latest article on sociopathy in Psychology Today and yet again imply that Robin makes him uncomfortable and of course he will once again stress that it's just a hypothesis of his. Oh poor Emily - you're toast. I have not replied to that post of Emily's yet Ravi. Sometimes I pick my nose. Do you pick yours too? Everyone does. Although sometimes it is not exactly picking. Sometimes it could better be described as something less invasive-sounding. You can pick your nose by blowing it. This is the method I prefer. I have to give you something though - a few words from 'M.E. Thomas' the sociopath who writes on her blog SociopathWorld: 'I try not to let my diagnosis of being a sociopath define me or change me. One of my friends told me, I think wisely, I wish that you had never heard of the word sociopath, that you just lived your life without knowing that there was a label for what you are. Labels can be very limiting and I wouldn't want to ever be frozen, without making any effort to grow and develop as a person.' I personally think that this M.E. Thomas is a kind of monster. I don't like her one bit. I don't like reading what she writes either. There is a kind of taintedness about it. It gives me the creeps. I would rather read the insipid list about spiritual pitfalls that was posted a couple of days ago. At least this woman sounds harmless. That other one is murderous.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
On 7/10/2013 5:54 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Let me know once you start to feel suffocated in your pseudo-Eastern, impersonal, disinterested universal Self cell Xeno baby - you will really understand the concept of dignity better then. Because right now you seem quite clueless, totally oblivious of and reveling in your masochistic, retarded, indignified responses. Gee, sorry Ravi. I did not realise you would be unable to answer a couple of simple questions. By the way 'indignified' is not yet considered a word in the English language. There is a word 'indignity' and a word 'undignified'. Dear Xeno, *We *don't need to know the answer to two questions, it's relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things to *us*. *They *created the dictionary, clearly *they *who created the dictionary didn't make is easy for *us *to realize that undignified may be more correct than indignified - and quite clearly it was unimportant to *them*, in the grand scheme of things. There is a spiritual technique here *we *all can use - what is more important, the relative egotistical answers to two questions? The facts surrounding the correct usage of undignified vs indignified? Does the whole care? Is truth - at a universal, impersonal level, affected by answers to these two questions, is affected by incorrect pronunciation? *Xeno - please contemplate on this. This is deep and profound shit OK?* Love, Ravi
[FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Xeno - please contemplate on this. This is deep and profound shit OK? Love, Ravi Here, it is late. I'm tired. I'm going to bed. Have a pleasant evening. It's earlier where you are.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: (To Xeno) Was, Announcing the Robin Carlsen Award
On 7/10/2013 7:40 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Xeno - please contemplate on this. This is deep and profound shit OK? Love, Ravi Here, it is late. I'm tired. I'm going to bed. Have a pleasant evening. It's earlier where you are. Time and place are immaterial in Unity. Clearly the spelling threw you off, it was intentional dear Xeno - so I could hit your core delusion, your attachment to relative, egotistical answers and obsessive fixation on spelling. No worries Xeno, take another day and contemplate on it, you need it since you are still in the grips of Maya - the delusionary time and place.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help for the Insult-Challenged
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (-: PS to Nablusoss: sorry for not snipping You already apologized. Does it make you seem more wonderful to yourself if you do it twice? Multiple apologies when they are cheap and mean nothing. And then no apologies when they could go somewhere, could make a difference. Apologies that take nothing but the amount of energy it takes to tap a few keys come easy to our friend. Apologies that require movement in the places that can hurt are not so easily dispensed. Heavy lifting isn't for everyone Judy. Some seem to think they'll acquire some sort of hernia if they have to give from the gut, let alone the heart. (And you're responding to Xeno in any case, not Nabby. Has life become more confusing to you lately?)
[FairfieldLife] Interesting viewpoint
http://redleafentmedia.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/dear-michael-vick-your-champion-is-dead/ Thank God there are champions who defend these creatures and who mourn when they die.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Le Cafe des Affiches
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Thanks for these post Barry - I enjoy them. I enjoy writing them. If for no other reason, me rapping about enjoying my life while ignoring what they say about me seems to piss of the Frightened Five more than anything else I could do. :-) Just look at their response...in numbers, if nothing else. Judy's almost out of posts for the week, Ann's not far behind, and I feel safe at guessing that neither of them have contributed anything but insults and attempts to get people to argue with them all week. All while trying to hide their panic over the fact that fewer and fewer people every week seem to be paying any attention to anything they write. I mean, here it is Thursday morning and I still have 30 posts to play with, and they only have a handful between them. I think that speaks volumes in terms of who is affecting whom, don't you? :-) Judy and her small band of sycophants seem to *live* for this stuff, but increasingly lately the only people they've got to talk to are each other. Almost no one else even bothers to respond. Except Xeno, and he's laughing at them the whole time, and Share, who still foolishly gives a shit what any of them say about her. I just find it fascinating -- and thus fascinating to comment on in my cafe raps from time to time -- that this small band of narcissists don't seem to realize how much of themselves they give away by relating their *fantasies* here on FFL. Almost ALL of these fantasies seem to revolve around how much the words they've posted to this tiny, backwater cesspool in cyberspace have *affected* and *hurt* someone they don't like. Don't take my word for this, just watch the trends for yourself. I find it all kinda sad, but then I'm perverse enough to have noticed the trend that the more I *don't* take them seriously, and the more I *don't* respond to them directly, the crazier they seem to get and the earlier in each week they post out. So that inspires me to take them even less seriously than ever. :-) The fallacy in their thinking, as far as I can tell, is that they actually seem to believe that people CARE what they think of them. That was Robin's biggest failing, too, the guy they're so enamored of. They post tiny insults, and enough of them that they often post out mid-week. He used to write these long, boring tomes about the people he didn't like, and *he actually expected the people he was ranting about to read them*, and to CARE what he thought of them. THAT is their common failing, and why they can be so easily ignored. Their fantasies all revolve around the people they gang up on feeling BAD and being *affected* by the things they write. If enough people show them that nothing they say has any more effect that pissing into the wind, maybe in time they'll catch a clue and try to find something actually interesting to contribute. Maybe. Either that or they'll just keep doing the same old thing, writing to the imaginary audiences in their heads, as opposed to the real-life audience that is largely ignoring them. But how long can that last? How long can they perpetuate their fantasies about how much they're affecting the people they don't like? How long can they keep that up? It's not as if someone could do that for almost 20 years without catching a clue, is it? Oh. Never mind. :-) From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Le Cafe des Affiches Here I am in Yet Another Cafe, this time a new one, in new 'hood. It caught my eye when I was wandering around last night, as did the fact that it had free Wifi, so I decided to come back tonight and spend some time here at a table in front of it. The cafe itself is not terribly crowded, which is a plus for me, but probably a bummer for the owners. I like it because, true to its name, its walls are covered with posters, from all eras of French poster art. I happen to own the originals of some of the copies on their walls, from the late 1800s series Les Maitres de l'Affiche and L'Estampes Modernes collections, so for me this is a little like being at home. Except for the people passing by, that is. If I sit outside my house in Leiden, I am not nearly as likely to be entertained by a street performer juggling while balancing a large bowl of goldfish on his head. Or by women competing for the obviously coveted Who Can Wear The Shortest Skirt Award. Or see hordes of tourists from all parts of the world walking by, gawking at all the shops, restaurants, and cafes like this one, many adorned with people sitting at tables like mine, also writing -- either in their paper notebooks, or on tablet computers or laptops. Guess I'm not the only person to gain some inspiration from people-watching. Hey, some people have weirder fascinations.
