[FairfieldLife] Insider's View of Amma's Charity Projects

2007-10-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
Bronte writes: The following email, posted on the ex-amma website, is from a former insider devotee who claims she was on the edge of Amma's inner circle for many years. This is what she claims to have seen. Jayson, When I referred to her organization as being masquerading I am

[FairfieldLife] Another Account of Financial Fraud and Danger

2007-10-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
Bronte writes: Here is a statement from Amma's former Joint Secretary in charge of accounts about the fraudulent nature of Amma's charities. Exerpt from Message 283 in files of ex-amma website: I’m enclosing below a statement that was emailed to the Amma satsang groups by one of

[FairfieldLife] Replying to Archer's Comments about Amma

2007-10-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
The ex-amma website is closed to Amma proselytizers for the protection of its members, most of whom consider themselves healing from involvement in a cult. They come to the forum to share experiences and recovery, not to argue or defend themselves against true believers. (See description below

[FairfieldLife] Exerpts from The Guru Papers

2007-10-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
Hi, gang - I'm not receiving FFL emails anymore but am still officially signed in to this forum, and I ran across something today too good not to share with everybody. You can google this book and order it if you like what you read. I, for one, plan to get it. Best to all,

[FairfieldLife] Over and Out

2007-10-18 Thread Bronte Baxter
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for letting me be a part of your intellectual life, one of the richest levels of our human existence. I will remember you always. Love, Bronte Baxter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
Angela Mailander wrote: Who's they is a good question, and I know for sure that I can't know what the upper levels of the governing hierarchy are. I know for sure the Vatican was very much involved in the creation of Hitler. And Wall Street was ultimately responsible for the financing. In

Re: [FairfieldLife] I rest my case about Righteous Anger

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
Dear Turq, the world isn't bettered by merely noticing the sunshine and the birds. As long as there is suffering in it, there are things that need worked out. TM was a bliss-based movement, that taught us all to think positive thoughts and life would be just groovey. Turned out that wasn't so.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
His point, Angela, seems to be that your paralleling the TMO and Nazi Germany is not to be taken seriously because, unlike the Nazis, the movement has never committed violence. True. However, fiesty Feste, Angela did already address this fact in her first or second post on the subject. She said

[FairfieldLife] To Hugh/ Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
Hugh wrote: If you are seriously interested in human origins a much better place to start research would be the books of Richard Dawkins, try the Blind Watchmaker or River out of Eden A good understanding of evolution is an essential starting place before considering the tripe tossed out by

[FairfieldLife] The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
do.rflx wrote: I look at the quantity of people like myself in that seemingly 'unique' and 'special' time frame who were 'lost' in the darker side of the hippie daze [days], or just plain 'lost' - and because of TM became positive and hopeful for probably the first time in many of their lives.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
was the whole point of my it's free to all of us post. - Bronte curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a fairly clear channel for my God Double uh oh. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflx wrote: I look at the quantity

[FairfieldLife] To Angela

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter brontebaxter8@ wrote: His point, Angela, seems to be that your paralleling the TMO and Nazi Germany is not to be taken seriously because, unlike the Nazis, the movement has never committed violence. True. However, fiesty Feste

Re: [FairfieldLife] The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
: Bronte Baxter wrote: snip What I come up with is this. TM did deliver experience of the stillest states of awareness, that most of us had been too outward-directed ever to have noticed before. It pointed us toward home. That was fantastic. But just as a bad product offer can include a really

[FairfieldLife] Ode to Intentional Character Building

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
I was thinking about this incredible poem by Rudyard Kipling today, which I memorized in high school. It was written by a man who believed wholly in free will and our power as individuals to create a better destiny, even a better character, for ourselves. A pretty unpopular concept these days

[FairfieldLife] Lurk, Miscommunication Re: Angela's take on the pompous shit

2007-10-14 Thread Bronte Baxter
From Angela of the Wednesday night satsang again: Note: forwarded to Bronte and Posted snip Angela wrote about the Wednesday satsang group, on their forum: Though I have seen some wisdom in this group, I have also seen too much pompous shit, and with that, I am outa here. Lurk wrote,

Fwd: [wednesdaynightsatsang] Re: Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Challenging Assumptions

2007-10-14 Thread Bronte Baxter
not looking to deeply offend or start a war (I know our beliefs are held to be sacred :) ) but if you're willing to look at this point, I would enjoy continuing to discuss it with you and anyone else who wants to. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded

[FairfieldLife] My take on Judy and Turq

2007-10-14 Thread Bronte Baxter
There are all kinds of misunderstandings that can slip into real-life relationships, just as in cyber ones, if they aren't talked out at the time. When this happens in real life, people build resentments, and in marriages, an accumulation of enough of these leads to a divorce. It's hard on a

[FairfieldLife] Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-14 Thread Bronte Baxter
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-14 Thread Bronte Baxter
New Age and Naziism, so we could discuss them. - Bronte Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte Baxter wrote: Another reason I left, though, was that they really were completely unwilling to deal with the questions I, personally, have about the whole enlightenment trip. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-14 Thread Bronte Baxter
Vaj wrote: As you know, the Vedas depict many great demons, such as Ravana, as being extremely charismatic, learned, and highly evolved. In some cases the story is told that the demon had the choice of being born into a series of righteous lives or one demonic life in which they would be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-14 Thread Bronte Baxter
Flanegin wrote: My friend's response was that that attitude was a cop-out which allowed people to rationalize all sorts of mischief by gurus and other leaders. Thanks for sharing this-- Its a great piece of writing! I'd agree that good and evil, light and dark, balance each other out in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-14 Thread Bronte Baxter
Flanegin wrote: My friend's response was that that attitude was a cop-out which allowed people to rationalize all sorts of mischief by gurus and other leaders. Thanks for sharing this-- Its a great piece of writing! I'd agree that good and evil, light and dark, balance each other out in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Lurk, Miscommunication Re: Angela's take on the pompous shit

2007-10-14 Thread Bronte Baxter
In what sense do you think Turq is like Nazi-like? He is devoted to complete individual freedom, as far as I can tell. That's the opposite of Nazism. - Bronte off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rory's insight into Hitler and Mahesh

2007-10-14 Thread Bronte Baxter
Jim wrote: That is Rory's business. I think he went on to add that he had been with Hitler in a past life. Are you implying that because of Rory's vision, this is irrefutable proof that Maharishi IS a hitler, or a nazi? Again please refer to my earlier question about when he begins amassing

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [wednesdaynightsatsang] Challenging Assumptions

2007-10-13 Thread Bronte Baxter
Note: forwarded message attached. - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!---BeginMessage--- Dear Bronte Baxter, Thanks for posting that passionate piece challenging basic assumptions on the nature

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick's lady friend's cosmic knowledge

2007-10-13 Thread Bronte Baxter
Bronte wrote some weeks back:And where does it leave the new visitors, often people disillusioned or questioning TM, looking for a safe place to talk about and share experiences? They can't do it at Fairfield Life, unless they want to be fried and eaten for breakfast. Judy wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stirring the pot

2007-10-13 Thread Bronte Baxter
Queenie wrote: What I wrote is my truth. It is a private thing outside of the group that I would never otherwise share with anyone but my closest friends and relatives. I was asked to expand on my truth, and I did. I would never post to FFL anything like this because of the inability

[FairfieldLife] RE: Rick's Friend's Addendum

2007-10-13 Thread Bronte Baxter
She wrote: An addendum: Also, a very salient point left out that I always stress to the group and others is that it is not the experience that we are looking for, it is what it brings to us in the form of knowledge that matters. Focus on the knowledge not the experience. When one finds

[FairfieldLife] Forwarded: Angela from the Satsang

2007-10-13 Thread Bronte Baxter
. a Bronte Baxter brontebaxter8@ yahoo.com wrote: Bronte wrote some weeks back: And where does it leave the new visitors, often people disillusioned or questioning TM, looking for a safe place to talk about and share experiences? They can't do it at Fairfield Life, unless they want

[FairfieldLife] To Judy

2007-10-13 Thread Bronte Baxter
PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte wrote some weeks back: And where does it leave the new visitors, often people disillusioned or questioning TM, looking for a safe place to talk about and share experiences? They can't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Judy

2007-10-13 Thread Bronte Baxter
: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jude darlin', if you want to see me as a hypocrite, that's your right. I stand on what I wrote. If you can't see the difference between telling a person they are dog's offel that has been eaten and regurgitated

[FairfieldLife] Angela's take on the pompous shit

2007-10-13 Thread Bronte Baxter
, obviously. I should have listened. All is lost (enlightenment included) in a community in which you are not allowed to cream someone for spouting pompous shit. Though I have seen some wisdom in this group, I have also seen too much pompous shit, and with that, I am outa here. a Bronte Baxter [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] To Judy and everyone / Trying to Find Fair

2007-10-13 Thread Bronte Baxter
I may be being inconsistent, Judy. I don’t think hypocritical, because that implies conscious adherence to one’s inconsistency. Where I am wrong (and I often am), I do want to change. I know something is wrong here, but I don’t know what. You are clearly angry at me. I think I get why.

[FairfieldLife] Creating Reality versus Tao Surfing/ Was Joni Mitchell, my idol

2007-10-07 Thread Bronte Baxter
to particular cases. On a lumber suit, you had people named Timber and Oakes. On other cases you had lawyers named Swindle and Lyer. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I LOVED your Road Trip story! Talk

[FairfieldLife] NOW I'M PISSED / was Judy and Edg sitting in a tree F - L - A - M - I - N - G (Re: Not A Pretty Girl)

2007-10-07 Thread Bronte Baxter
Edg, you have fallen off the white horse. Come on, buddy. This is just wrong. You were one of the main forces on this forum for cleaning up the flaming. You inspired us all. Now, you've let your inner devil out and given him a good kick in the pants on top of it to really get him going.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy's remark on Curtis, are you a predator?

2007-10-06 Thread Bronte Baxter
And Edg, if Barry's worst critic says it, you know it's got to be true. You say deal with the issues but you're questioning someone's personal integrity and demanding they defend it, which it's not their job to do here. Barry is avoiding getting triggered and drawn into a fight. He might have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Outlaw Path To Enlightenment

2007-10-06 Thread Bronte Baxter
Ron wrote: When sincere seekers are there , the universe offers a choice. Probably when the sincerety is kept up, more choices come along the way and the time frame is eternity so no need to worry. It looks like out of the 6 billion people on the planet, not many follow a Guru, this is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, are you a predator? (Re: Turq, I think you're a predator)

2007-10-06 Thread Bronte Baxter
Nabloss: Might I suggest to get a checking ? ;-) Bronte: Your mantra, applied quite humorously here. Nabby, you crack me up. nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 6, 2007, at 11:10 AM,

[FairfieldLife] Joni Mitchell, my idol

2007-10-06 Thread Bronte Baxter
Turq: I ran into Joni Mitchell a couple of times. Once is written up in one of the stories in Road Trip Mind. The other was at a gathering with Yaqui medicine man Grandfather Cachora. Bronte: Joni MItchell was an icon of my youth. My idol. I memorized 90 percent of her song

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Outlaw Path To Enlightenment

2007-10-06 Thread Bronte Baxter
snip But eventually, if you are to become enlightened yourself, You have to take the final leap, yourself. And if you have a good guru, he or she will push you, when you are ready. Well, nobody pushed Siddhartha. He broke with the gurus and found the flaw in what they were teaching.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Not A Pretty Girl

2007-10-06 Thread Bronte Baxter
Good song. But kittens don't always figure out how to get down. Some of them do starve in the tops of trees. Damsels sometimes are in distress, and heros sometimes rescue them. Remember Pretty Woman? Great story. She and he rescued each other. As a woman who's been on my own a long time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Joni Mitchell, my idol

2007-10-06 Thread Bronte Baxter
Bronte wrote: She came across in her songs as a lady of all heart yet great strength. Turq wrote: It's easier to see the strength these days. She tends to keep her heart a little more hidden. Bronte writes: Yeah. That started around the time she turned from writing folk to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq, I think you're a predator

2007-10-05 Thread Bronte Baxter
I empathize with all three of you guys. Did you read where Edg wrote about his younger sister who at the age of 15 got seduced to run off with an older man and marry him, a move that virtually wrecked her life? I think Edg's strong feelings on this subject probably come from there. You aren't a

[FairfieldLife] P.S. to Turq, I think you're a predator

2007-10-05 Thread Bronte Baxter
snip Bingo. Edg must be reading from the same manual as Rick about how damsels in distress need rescuing from relationships of their own choosing. Sal Bronte writes; I meant to add in my other post that I am with Edg on his desire to protect young girls from the dangers. No, Sal, they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:So, the magic of young women...

2007-10-02 Thread Bronte Baxter
Great post. When I was a young girl, I thought my generation was superior because our beliefs and ideas weren't all boxed in like our parents'. We were willing to question basic assumptions -- like democracy, Christianity, the purpose of life -- and often come up with new, fresh answers. That

[FairfieldLife] A different way of evaluating abortion

2007-10-02 Thread Bronte Baxter
My feeling about abortion is this: it is much more ethical if you do it without causing pain. Aborting a fetus that is developed to the point where it has a recognizable body is probably going to cause pain to a living thing. Aborting a cluster of cells that's a few days or weeks old, where no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick FLAMING 2

2007-10-02 Thread Bronte Baxter
Wow, Curtis. This was brilliant. - Bronte curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People who are insulted by Rick offering certain women's experiences with their gurus, but are not insulted by the guru's reported behavior strike me as value challenged... Reporting what someone

[FairfieldLife] Here's the REVISED parable

2007-10-01 Thread Bronte Baxter
How about this for a parable? A man met a man who told him about air. You can't live without it, he was told. But I already have air, said the first man. I am breathing every moment. No you aren't, said the second man. You can't possibly be breathing if you haven't had a teacher show you

Re: [FairfieldLife] I was NOT functioning from the Home of all the laws of nature

2007-10-01 Thread Bronte Baxter
I think the domes have some effect, much as I have gripes against the movement. I used to teach school at MIU Elementary, often missing the domes because I was in rebellion at the time, or just plain busy correcting papers. Every day when superradiance time came, I felt an intense calm, an

[FairfieldLife] To Archer/ The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-10-01 Thread Bronte Baxter
Of Bronte Baxter Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:32 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization Christ said I and the Father are One where is the two in that? They are one but they are also

[FairfieldLife] To Peter/ The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-10-01 Thread Bronte Baxter
? I'm talking in a different way about the same thing. - Bronte Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bronte Baxter Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:32 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was NOT functioning from the Home of all the laws of nature

2007-10-01 Thread Bronte Baxter
Billy wrote: I think in order for it to be stronger than the nuclear force as Hagelin puts it, you have to be operating FROM the home of all the laws of nature, pure consciousness, not somewhere in the vicinity. Bronte writes: I agree. You can't smash the atom if you smash right next to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Most Rapid and Direct Means to Eternal Bliss

2007-10-01 Thread Bronte Baxter
Clip from the posted article (Bronte's commments in italitics): 1. Before you learned the language that you now think in, the background of awareness was there. So was the essence of my individuality, which is beyond language. 2. Then you learned the word “I” in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pushing Pushing Daisies

2007-10-01 Thread Bronte Baxter
Stu, are you a script writer, a director, a cameraman or what? What is Pushing Daisies about? Is it a comedy? - Bronte Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stu wrote: For anyone who cares, you may want to look at my latest work. Pushing Daisies Wednesday night 7c/8 pm ABC. s. You

[FairfieldLife] On flaming

2007-10-01 Thread Bronte Baxter
Off-World, you're making some good points, I think. Insults can fall anywhere on a line continuum, from a 1 to a 10, with sarcasm being a 1. So where do we draw the line on the line? Well, sarcasm is considered a fair strategy in a formal debate. Name-calling isn't. Implying that someone's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Rick Archer/ On Reciting God's Name

2007-09-30 Thread Bronte Baxter
with the same sick messages. IMO, of course, with all due respect to yours. - Bronte authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip At the start of this thread, you quoted Ramana Maharishi on the value of letting

[FairfieldLife] To Off-World - Another lost post

2007-09-30 Thread Bronte Baxter
Here's another email that I wrote way early this afternoon, and I don't see that it posted. - Bronte Note: forwarded message attached. - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.---BeginMessage---

[FairfieldLife] Regarding David Spero's Campaign Against Ron Paul

2007-09-30 Thread Bronte Baxter
David Spero quoted an article including this snip: Or the crazy-as-fuck John Birch Society, to which Paul is more than happy to grant the occasional interview and even speak at their dinners ... followed by a line calling Ron Paul a neo-Nazi. In a later post Spero says Paul is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Off-World/ DS Spreading lies about Ron Paul

2007-09-30 Thread Bronte Baxter
] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That flaming Scottsman Off-World wrote: It is clear what Ron Paul stands for, and that he will never be a dictator as you are trying to make out. He does not have that sort of energy, nor the charisma

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Rapid and Direct Means to Eternal Bliss

2007-09-30 Thread Bronte Baxter
Interesting article. Bronte's comments in italics. The article states: 1. Before you learned the language that you now think in, the background of awareness was there. So was the essence of my individuality, which is beyond language. 2. Then you learned the word “I” in

[FairfieldLife] Come on already! /Re: Lurker notice in out Yahoo group

2007-09-30 Thread Bronte Baxter
Gimminee critters, Ron. Here you go again. You are a nice, sincere guy, but this proselytizing is a drag. Isn't it an edifice of the ego, that you are always decrying? Who are you to tell lurkers on this site that they are not welcome just to read the posts, and what authority do you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHOOPS! A FLAME HAS IGNITED!

2007-09-29 Thread Bronte Baxter
Off-World: I am saying those things in a totally calm voice...can' t you tell? A flame is dropping bombs on people. Roughing a guy up verbally for acting like a dumbass is the enlightened thing to do. An unenlightened person would be all nice about it at all times. Though I am not enlightened

[FairfieldLife] DS, did you confuse Ron with Rick?/ re: DS responds to response to Rick Archer RE: Enlightenment

2007-09-29 Thread Bronte Baxter
Dear DS: Are you responding to Rick Archer or to Ron (Hridaya)? The comments below don't sound like Rick, and unless he sent you these questions privately, it isn't him, because such a post from him does not appear on the forum. You misconstrued me, Bronte Baxter, as being New Morning

[FairfieldLife] To Off-World/ DS Spreading lies about Ron Paul

2007-09-29 Thread Bronte Baxter
That flaming Scottsman Off-World wrote: It is clear what Ron Paul stands for, and that he will never be a dictator as you are trying to make out. He does not have that sort of energy, nor the charisma, to be a dictator. You're fearmongering is laughable, and will go nowhere. It is a joke

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's the Most....

2007-09-29 Thread Bronte Baxter
I would say, spiritualizing matter. Making it as perfect and free as the Infinite itself. How would you answer this question, Suzie? suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the greatest and most satisfying thing a person can accomplish in the material, relative world?

[FairfieldLife] RE: To Rick Archer/ On Reciting God's Name

2007-09-28 Thread Bronte Baxter
Rick wrote: Gurus are just people who are farther up the mountain, or perhaps sitting on its summit. Bronte writes: If this is all they were, darlin', they wouldn't be intent on wearing crowns, having us prostrate ourselves at their feet, call on them to marry us, give our children

[FairfieldLife] To Rick Archer/ on The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realiza

2007-09-28 Thread Bronte Baxter
This was beautiful, Rick. I disagree with the devotional path and so many of your beliefs, but there must be something you are doing right to have such beautiful experiences. I feel the same about Flanegin. I learn from you guys at the same time as I debate you. My understanding is an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Judy again/ Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
Judy wrote: I totally agree with you that the notions that the ego doesn't exist or that enlightenment involves annihilating one's individual consciousness are outlandish. I just don't think anyone has been proposing such notions. Bronte writes: Okay, Judy. Thanks for clarifying your

[FairfieldLife] Regarding Judy's Comment on Free Will

2007-09-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
Judy wrote: I wonder if you missed a post I made a week or two ago about the Everything is perfect just as it is idea, in response to a post of yours about it. I've reproduced it below: Bronte writes: Yes, Judy, I did miss it, and I'm very glad you re-sent it. It is very

[FairfieldLife] Regarding Jim Flanegin's Comment on Free Will

2007-09-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
Flanegin wrote: Yep, from the standpoint of dualistic, relative life, multiple problems are seen, and must be solved, as they should be, living a dynamic and responsible life. From the non dual experience of Being though, even the change is seen and embraced as perfect. The union of the

[FairfieldLife] To Rick Archer/ On Reciting God's Name

2007-09-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
Rick Archer contributed: Repetition aloud of His name is better than praise. Better still is its faint murmur. But the best is repetition within the mind -- and that is meditation Better than such broken thought is its steady and continuous flow like the flow of oil or of a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
Yagyax wrote: Aristotle arrived at the conclusion that life is Bliss (he used the phrase Being-In-Itself ) on the basis of his own experience, as does (who's the person you're speaking on behalf of, Byron Katie?)? But I keep up on modern philosophical topics, and haven't seen one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Jim Flanegin's Comment on Free Will

2007-09-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
Mathabrahman wrote: Everything's perfect, including the desire to make things better. Here, we could run into a genuine paradox; but we're dealing with karma and Dharma, areas which are innately unfathomable. Therefore, even Sages may fall short of expertise on the topic of what's perfect

[FairfieldLife] WHOOPS! A FLAME HAS IGNITED!

2007-09-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
And you have zero logic or rationale or ANY argument whatsoever behind anything you say, except to attack me. Pathetic little man you are. OffWorld Bronte writes: Uh-oh, Off-World, my dear kundulini wise man, the fire got a little too hot for you, bro. You broke into A

[FairfieldLife] To New Morning/ The Amazing Effects of Cognitive Therapy

2007-09-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
I've read and heard great stuff about this method. For one thing, it was used with clinically depressed patients in trials to see how it fared as therapy compared to antidepressants. Turns out it had equal and similar effects on brain chemistry! IMO, this is one of the most

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-25 Thread Bronte Baxter
Pretty darn good questions again, New Morning. I think the various experiences come from our varying expectations. I went to see Amma, got real close to her, didn't do the hug thing. I was never impressed, felt no dharshan. Yet a friend of mine swears by her -- the dharshan for him is intense.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-25 Thread Bronte Baxter
Judy wrote: I think the notion of free will is an artifact of duality. Bronte writes: Wow, Judy. This statement of yours demonstrates that these aren't just semantic distinctions between us. I assume you are saying that from your perspective free will does not exist in higher

[FairfieldLife] To Judy again/ Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-25 Thread Bronte Baxter
Judy wrote: Who here has been claiming the ego doesn't exist?? Who has suggested enlightenment involves annihilating your individual consciousness? ? I'm increasingly coming to think, Bronte, that you're defending your position against a big bunch of straw men.,___ Bronte

[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter's comment/ fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
Peter wrote: Ron, unfortuanately you're wasting your breath on these mala covered samsarins who insist on individuality and can not recognize the function of the ego in this belief that somehow realization of That includes individuality. Poor deluded bhogis. Bronte: I would say it's

[FairfieldLife] Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
I replied to this once. Somehow it never posted, so here goes again: From Judy, quoting Bronte: To claim that the ego is only a Me is to perceive only its limited expression. Such limited expression certainly needs dissolving for cosmic bliss to occur. But the Me only needs to

[FairfieldLife] Regarding Yagyax's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
differs from the others. Thus, semantics enters into the picture, true.. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter brontebaxter8@ wrote: I

[FairfieldLife] Regarding Peter's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
--- yagyax wrote: Obviously, the false I does vanish but this is only one component of what makes up a person, which distinguishes one person from another: MMY is not SSRS, etc. -- Peter wrote: What distinguishes MMY from SSRS are space/time qualities. Of course these are different

[FairfieldLife] To Yagyax / Love locates the heart of individual

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
the question of there being individuals or not. Of course there are individuals!...but some think not. If individuals didn't exist, there would be no point in having Heaven on Earth. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yagyax. Never saw you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
Hey, New Morning. I've been loving your posts on opinions that are 97.9 % true, rules of engagement for dialoging, etc. Your observations are very profound to me. Regarding this question, I'm not sure what you are asking -- this is thorny stuff to put into words, so abstract -- but

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
Replying to New Morning's excellent questions (below) on this thread: It appears that all these people we hold up as enlightened masters wear the shine off their halos the more we get to know them. I say the reason is our concept of enlightenment. If all that means to us is that the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread Bronte Baxter
Bill wrote: The soul is a pure reflection of God called the Jivatma, when in the beginning when it was tempted by Lucifer (maya/avidya) in the Garden of Eden (pure innocence) it was warned not to eat of the tree of knowledge of Good and evil or surely it would die (be subject to the wheel of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Am I an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread Bronte Baxter
Bill wrote: The Divine is a mode of speech designed to shelter us from our frightful picture of a horrible, wrathful God. However is also shelters us from having to confront the Being at the heart of the most powerful experiences of deity found in the western tradition - all-consuming

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-22 Thread Bronte Baxter
Christ said I and the Father are One where is the two in that? They are one but they are also two, as a branch can say I am the tree and still be a branch. You can experience being one with the Infinite yet an individual at the same time. -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-22 Thread Bronte Baxter
Ron wrote: I am not enlightened and can not say from direct experience - I can only pass along what 3 people here say in my path- then again, the honesty of the situation is unless it is known from direct experience, then it is a belief system- so you have my beliefs presented.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Off-World's Kundulini Experience (Was Dear Bevan and Dr. Hagelin)

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter brontebaxter8@ wrote: Off-World, this is absolutely exciting. I've always wanted to talk to someone who was having red-hot, metal-melting kundulini on an almost daily basis. I have so much I want to ask. So here goes, with inserted questions below

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Off-World's Kundulini Experience (Was Dear Bevan and Dr. Hagelin)

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
About the fear and emptiness ... what is it that's empty? What is the fear OF? That you will burn up? I The fear is of anihilation. It seems like anihilation, like something else could take over that is not me, but I have come to the point of facing that very powerful sense, and not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kilogram losing mass

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
? authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Judy wrote: Actually, that the earth is losing its magnetic field *is* mainstream; see this article on CNN.com from 2003: http://tinyurl. com/yzfv

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Off-World's Kundulini Experience (Was Dear Bevan and Dr. Hagelin)

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
[Bronte: The only guidance needed is one's own inner guidance. It's the nature of the human spirit to wake up.] Ron: My comments, coming from my path will mirror that of Ramana Maharishi's admonisions. Bronte: I disagree with almost everything of the philosophy of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kilogram losing mass

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
Judy: Well, to start with, I think I was confused as to what you meant by spinning. You mean spinning *in place*, right? If so, isn't it the string it's suspended by winding up and then unwinding that causes the weight to stop spinning and change direction? Bronte: The analogy isn't

[FairfieldLife] Gyroscope question ( Re: Kilogram losing mass)

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte: I've wondered about that point myself, but how about this angle? If you take a pendalum hanging from a string and spin it, it goes a while in one direction. Then, to my

[FairfieldLife] Corn Mazes versus Crop Circles (Re: New Cropcircles)

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
Judy: And here's one that was just discovered in Michigan: http://www.gullmead owfarms.com/ Bronte: No, that is not a crop circle -- it's a corn maze -- a human-created pattern in a field that customers are invited to pay a few dollars to come in and explore, for fun and

[FairfieldLife] For Edg (Re: Kilogram losing mass)

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
Edg: Bronte - you might find it helpful to google this issue. I'm thinking you don't understand the difference between the magnetic poles switching and the ball, that the earth is, suddenly switching the direction of its spinning. Bronte: Edg, it appears that you see me as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Off-World's Kundulini Experience (Was Dear Bevan and Dr. Hagelin)

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
---Sure, one can get Enlightened without a Guru; likewise, one can learn how to play the violin without a teacher. (as Borak would sayNOT !). Bronte: Curious, I know lots of people who've taught themselves musical instruments. -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Corn Mazes versus Crop Circles (Re: New Cropcircles)

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
I see. Okay, I bit. A good one on me. - Bronte curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy: And here's one that was just discovered in Michigan: http://www.gullmead owfarms.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Edg (Re: Kilogram losing mass)

2007-09-17 Thread Bronte Baxter
Bronte: Edg, it appears that you see me as stupid. Edg: No! Lacking information, er, ya, but ain't nothing to do with your IQ. I lack tons of information in every field. Bronte: It's just that when you question if a person can't see the difference betweeen two obviously

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