Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Share Long]

How about: you all are having an Irony Man Decathalon?





 From: Bob Price 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess
 


  


The Chairman of the board, and Ravi---before there was a Ravi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5_V9RT8aR8


From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:45:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.
> 
> Your ironing you say?

We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.

  

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Share Long]

bobcat priced, well I enjoy the online voices of both Ravi and Xeno. Go figure!





 From: Bob Price 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the 
myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
 


  


  

So it's all about collusion (smile). Sorry about the embalming crack, I thought 
everyone knew which FFL contributor employs the on-line voice of an undertaker; 
don’t get me wrong, I like some of Xeno's contributions; for example, I wish he 
had contributed more about engrams; but he easily slides
into pomposity, at which point Ravi enjoys making him look like the energizer 
bunny after he just got hit by lightening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4FEn-ZKdDg


From: sharelong60 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:41:15 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess

Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most 
fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same 
piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots 
subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his 
vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in 
one innocent observation?
PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any 
fluids, embalming or otherwise. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little 
> > consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 
> 
> ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I 
> can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid 
> salesmen---with little or no sense of humour.
> 
> > PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups 
> > are cracked!
> 
> ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the 
> clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________
> >  From: Bob Price 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing anything 
> > at all!", he was making a fashion statement? 
> > 
> > I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem 
> > to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> > 
> > 
> > From: Share Long 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why 
> > not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, 
> > some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure!
> > 
> > 
> > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about 
> > physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of 
> > vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your 
> > emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility 
> > and self-honesty are thy attributes.
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> > 
> > >  
> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm 
> > >> breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its 
> > >> need for oxygen in order

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[obbajeeba]

Pardon the interruption to these lovely posts to ask a technical
question directed to anyone reading:
I am noticing posts being posted more than once on the FFL Message Board
(signed in and out) and in my email box too, messages are being sent
more than once. I do believe there is a glitch somewhere,  at first I
thought Mr. Price was
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ass-call
<http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ass-call>  giving us a
little,  as he was giving  Mrs. Price a little, but (butt, ass-call,
heh) I think some of you more tech savvy geeks may know what is
happening as to why these posts are cloning?
Anyone have an answer or if  is it yahoo jerking off again?






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Â
>
> So it's all about collusion (smile). Sorry about the embalming crack,
I thought everyone knew which FFL contributor employs the on-line voice
of an undertaker; don’t get me wrong, I like some of Xeno's
contributions; for example, I wish he had contributed more about
engrams; but he easily slides
> into pomposity, at which point Ravi enjoys making him look like the
energizer bunny after he just got hit by lightening.
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4FEn-ZKdDg
>
>
>
> 
> From: sharelong60 sharelong60@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:41:15 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth
of the invincible, infallible Goddess
>
>
>
>
> Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of
the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations
of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my
trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to
collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the
child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent
observation?
> PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never
sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced" bobpriced@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a
little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me.
> >
> > ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self
awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old
embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour.
> >
> > > PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you
grown ups are cracked!
> >
> > ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for
the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >Â Â From: Bob Price
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs &
the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > >
> > >
> > > Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing
anything at all!", he was making a fashion statement?
> > >
> > > I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite
often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Share Long
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs &
the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > >
> > > Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability.
But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of
course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go
figure!
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Ravi Chivukula
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs &
the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > >
> > > Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talk

[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Bob Price]

  

So it's all about collusion (smile). Sorry about the embalming crack, I thought 
everyone knew which FFL contributor employs the on-line voice of an undertaker; 
don’t get me wrong, I like some of Xeno's contributions; for example, I wish he 
had contributed more about engrams; but he easily slides
into pomposity, at which point Ravi enjoys making him look like the energizer 
bunny after he just got hit by lightening.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4FEn-ZKdDg




From: sharelong60 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:41:15 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess




Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most 
fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same 
piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots 
subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his 
vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in 
one innocent observation?
PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any 
fluids, embalming or otherwise. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little 
> > consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 
> 
> ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I 
> can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid 
> salesmen---with little or no sense of humour.
> 
> > PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups 
> > are cracked!
> 
> ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the 
> clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________
> >  From: Bob Price 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing anything 
> > at all!", he was making a fashion statement? 
> > 
> > I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem 
> > to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> > 
> > 
> > From: Share Long 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why 
> > not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, 
> > some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure!
> > 
> > 
> > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about 
> > physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of 
> > vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your 
> > emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility 
> > and self-honesty are thy attributes.
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> > 
> > >  
> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm 
> > >> breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its 
> > >> need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of 
> > >> needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in 
> > >> a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. 
> > >> People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need 
> > >> as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level 
> > >> what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable?
> > >
> > >
> > Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
> > >grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
> > >very *relevant* to his point.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> >    
> >
>


   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[obbajeeba]

I meant it as a joke, Ravi. Share can iron as well as Edith. :)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> OMG - can you please stop ganging up on my poor old aunt. Can't you see how 
> gentle I am with her?
> 
> 
> On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:02 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> 
> > I found a copy of the rulinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8EKndHBy7U 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.
> > > > 
> > > > Your ironing you say?
> > > 
> > > We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:31 PM, "Ann"  wrote:

> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.
> > > 
> > > Your ironing you say?
> > 
> > We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.
> 
> Yes, although I hear there might be a wrinkle or two in getting a decision. 
> The board is known to consist of starched shirt types who can really build up 
> a head of steam when pressed for this type of unanimous ruling.
> 

LOL..that really cracked me up.

> 
> >
> 
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Bob Price]

The Chairman of the board, and Ravi---before there was a Ravi.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5_V9RT8aR8





From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:45:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.
> 
> Your ironing you say?

We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.


   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.
> > 
> > Your ironing you say?
> 
> We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.

Yes, although I hear there might be a wrinkle or two in getting a decision. The 
board is known to consist of starched shirt types who can really build up a 
head of steam when pressed for this type of unanimous ruling.


>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

OMG - can you please stop ganging up on my poor old aunt. Can't you see how 
gentle I am with her?


On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:02 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> I found a copy of the rulinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8EKndHBy7U 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.
> > > 
> > > Your ironing you say?
> > 
> > We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.
> >
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Bob Price]

  

So it's all about collusion (smile). Sorry about the embalming crack, I thought 
everyone knew which FFL contributor employs the on-line voice of an undertaker; 
don’t get me wrong, I like some of Xeno's contributions; for example, I wish he 
had contributed more about engrams; but he easily slides
into pomposity, at which point Ravi enjoys making him look like the 
energizerbunny after he just got hit by lightening.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4FEn-ZKdDg




From: sharelong60 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:41:15 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess




Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most 
fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same 
piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots 
subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his 
vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in 
one innocent observation?
PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any 
fluids, embalming or otherwise. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little 
> > consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 
> 
> ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I 
> can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid 
> salesmen---with little or no sense of humour.
> 
> > PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups 
> > are cracked!
> 
> ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the 
> clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________
> >  From: Bob Price 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing anything 
> > at all!", he was making a fashion statement? 
> > 
> > I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem 
> > to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> > 
> > 
> > From: Share Long 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why 
> > not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, 
> > some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure!
> > 
> > 
> > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about 
> > physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of 
> > vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your 
> > emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility 
> > and self-honesty are thy attributes.
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> > 
> > >  
> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm 
> > >> breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its 
> > >> need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of 
> > >> needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in 
> > >> a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. 
> > >> People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need 
> > >> as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level 
> > >> what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable?
> > >
> > >
> > Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
> > >grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
> > >very *relevant* to his point.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> >    
> >
>


   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[obbajeeba]

I found a copy of the ruling   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8EKndHBy7U






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.
> >
> > Your ironing you say?
>
> We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

Can someone please help my aunt understand the difference between stupidity and 
irony? Emily? Am I asking too much?


On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:32 PM, "sharelong60"  wrote:

> Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance
> > 
> > Yep, Stumblin' Bob, we call him.
> > 
> > (BTW, I think by "old embalming fluid salesmen," he was
> > referring to Xeno.)
> > 
> > , pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: 
> > different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded 
> > king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are 
> > willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does 
> > the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent 
> > observation?
> > > PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never 
> > > sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a 
> > > > > little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 
> > > > 
> > > > ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self 
> > > > awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old 
> > > > embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour.
> > > > 
> > > > > PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown 
> > > > > ups are cracked!
> > > > 
> > > > ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the 
> > > > clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Bob Price 
> > > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the 
> > > > > myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing 
> > > > > anything at all!", he was making a fashion statement? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often 
> > > > > seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Share Long 
> > > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the 
> > > > > myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But 
> > > > > why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of 
> > > > > course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go 
> > > > > figure!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the 
> > > > > myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking 
> > > > > about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the 
> > > > > queen of vulnerabi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.
> 
> Your ironing you say?

We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
>
> Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.

Your ironing you say?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance
> > 
> > Yep, Stumblin' Bob, we call him.
> > 
> > (BTW, I think by "old embalming fluid salesmen," he was
> > referring to Xeno.)
> > 
> > , pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: 
> > different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded 
> > king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are 
> > willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does 
> > the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent 
> > observation?
> > > PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never 
> > > sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a 
> > > > > little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 
> > > > 
> > > > ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self 
> > > > awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old 
> > > > embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour.
> > > > 
> > > > > PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown 
> > > > > ups are cracked!
> > > > 
> > > > ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the 
> > > > clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: Bob Price 
> > > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the 
> > > > > myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing 
> > > > > anything at all!", he was making a fashion statement? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often 
> > > > > seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Share Long 
> > > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the 
> > > > > myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But 
> > > > > why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of 
> > > > > course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go 
> > > > > figure!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the 
> > > > > myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking 
> > > > > about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the 
> > > > > queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your 
> > > > > actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - 
> > > > > accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm 
> > > > > >> breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality 
> > > > > >> of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the 
> > > > > >> context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take 
> > > > > >> less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend 
> > > > > >> breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time 
> > > > > >> in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, 
> > > > > >> even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which 
> > > > > >> it is good to be vulnerable?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
> > > > > >grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
> > > > > >very *relevant* to his point.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >    
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[sharelong60]

Yes, I was practicing up on my irony.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
> >
> > Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance
> 
> Yep, Stumblin' Bob, we call him.
> 
> (BTW, I think by "old embalming fluid salesmen," he was
> referring to Xeno.)
> 
> , pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different 
> interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me 
> with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to 
> collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's 
> utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation?
> > PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold 
> > any fluids, embalming or otherwise.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a 
> > > > little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 
> > > 
> > > ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; 
> > > I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid 
> > > salesmen---with little or no sense of humour.
> > > 
> > > > PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown 
> > > > ups are cracked!
> > > 
> > > ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the 
> > > clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: Bob Price 
> > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the 
> > > > myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing 
> > > > anything at all!", he was making a fashion statement? 
> > > > 
> > > > I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often 
> > > > seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Share Long 
> > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the 
> > > > myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > > 
> > > > Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But 
> > > > why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of 
> > > > course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go 
> > > > figure!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the 
> > > > myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > > 
> > > > Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about 
> > > > physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of 
> > > > vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your 
> > > > emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, 
> > > > responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes.
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm 
> > > > >> breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of 
> > > > >> its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context 
> > > > >> of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less 
> > > > >> breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for 
> > > > >> a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high 
> > > > >> mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this 
> > > > >> simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be 
> > > > >> vulnerable?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
> > > > >grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
> > > > >very *relevant* to his point.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > >    
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
>
> Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance

Yep, Stumblin' Bob, we call him.

(BTW, I think by "old embalming fluid salesmen," he was
referring to Xeno.)

, pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different 
interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with 
my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude 
with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not 
sweep all characters up in one innocent observation?
> PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold 
> any fluids, embalming or otherwise.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little 
> > > consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 
> > 
> > ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I 
> > can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid 
> > salesmen---with little or no sense of humour.
> > 
> > > PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups 
> > > are cracked!
> > 
> > ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the 
> > clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ____
> > >  From: Bob Price 
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth 
> > > of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing anything 
> > > at all!", he was making a fashion statement? 
> > > 
> > > I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem 
> > > to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: Share Long 
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth 
> > > of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > 
> > > Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why 
> > > not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, 
> > > some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth 
> > > of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > 
> > > Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about 
> > > physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of 
> > > vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your 
> > > emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility 
> > > and self-honesty are thy attributes.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >  
> > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm 
> > > >> breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of 
> > > >> its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of 
> > > >> needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths 
> > > >> in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long 
> > > >> time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains 
> > > >> don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, 
> > > >> physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be 
> > > >> vulnerable?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
> > > >grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
> > > >very *relevant* to his point.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > >    
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

Please ignore Bob dear, clearly Mrs. Price is mad at him and not letting him 
conduct any "bone-a-babe" clinical experiments and he is expressing his 
frustration.

He will eventually wise up to your and Xeno's awesomeness.


On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:41 PM, "sharelong60"  wrote:

> Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most 
> fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same 
> piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their 
> boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign 
> in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all 
> characters up in one innocent observation?
> PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold 
> any fluids, embalming or otherwise. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little 
> > > consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 
> > 
> > ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I 
> > can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid 
> > salesmen---with little or no sense of humour.
> > 
> > > PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups 
> > > are cracked!
> > 
> > ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the 
> > clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: Bob Price 
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth 
> > > of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing anything 
> > > at all!", he was making a fashion statement? 
> > > 
> > > I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem 
> > > to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: Share Long 
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth 
> > > of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > 
> > > Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why 
> > > not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, 
> > > some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth 
> > > of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > 
> > > Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about 
> > > physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of 
> > > vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your 
> > > emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility 
> > > and self-honesty are thy attributes.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >  
> > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm 
> > > >> breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of 
> > > >> its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of 
> > > >> needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths 
> > > >> in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long 
> > > >> time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains 
> > > >> don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, 
> > > >> physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be 
> > > >> vulnerable?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
> > > >grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
> > > >very *relevant* to his point.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[sharelong60]

Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most 
fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same 
piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots 
subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his 
vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in 
one innocent observation?
PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any 
fluids, embalming or otherwise.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little 
> > consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 
> 
> ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I 
> can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid 
> salesmen---with little or no sense of humour.
> 
> > PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups 
> > are cracked!
> 
> ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the 
> clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____
> >  From: Bob Price 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing anything 
> > at all!", he was making a fashion statement? 
> > 
> > I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem 
> > to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> > 
> > 
> > From: Share Long 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why 
> > not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, 
> > some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure!
> > 
> > 
> > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about 
> > physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of 
> > vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your 
> > emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility 
> > and self-honesty are thy attributes.
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> > 
> > >  
> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm 
> > >> breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its 
> > >> need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of 
> > >> needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in 
> > >> a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. 
> > >> People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need 
> > >> as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level 
> > >> what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable?
> > >
> > >
> > Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
> > >grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
> > >very *relevant* to his point.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> >    
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[bobpriced]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little 
> consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 

***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can 
see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with 
little or no sense of humour.

> PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are 
> cracked!

***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the 
clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc



> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Bob Price 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> the invincible, infallible Goddess
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing anything at 
> all!", he was making a fashion statement? 
> 
> I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to 
> make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.
> 
> ____
> From: Share Long 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> the invincible, infallible Goddess
> 
> Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why 
> not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some 
> folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure!
> 
> ____________________
> From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> the invincible, infallible Goddess
> 
> Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about 
> physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of 
> vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions 
> - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and 
> self-honesty are thy attributes.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> 
> >  
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm 
> >> breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its 
> >> need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing 
> >> oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment 
> >> than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who 
> >> have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much 
> >> oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE 
> >> reality to which it is good to be vulnerable?
> >
> >
> Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
> >grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
> >very *relevant* to his point.
> >
> >
> 
>    
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Ravi Chivukula
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:42 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess

 

  

Thanks for that clarification Rick. I understand your constraints, if at all I 
was disappointed that my respect for you as someone who enables and supports 
free speech faltered as you handed over the moderator ship to an Amma fanatic. 
Anyway sanity's restored, Jim's back as the onwer/moderator - as usual people 
accuse of me of bullying, verbal abuse, dominating but he is able to see and 
appreciate the larger context of mine - thank god.

 

I didn’t have time to do justice to it. I wasn’t reading the posts and couldn’t 
fairly make the value judgments required.

 

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Rick Archer mailto:r...@searchsummit.com> > wrote:

  

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>  
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> ] 
On Behalf Of Ravi Chivukula
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:42 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess

 

  

Well dear Rory - this is a post from Ammachi free speech zone Yahoo group - 
Amma's deluded, deceived devotees are keeping me busy for the last week and I'm 
having a lot of fun.

Currently the archives are not public, because it so happened Amma's devotees 
indulged in personal attacks - character attacks, and the owner/moderator Jim 
was absent for that entire duration (last July/Aug to June this year). I was 
also banned after the interim moderator Rick handed over the moderatorship to 
some pro-Amma fanatic (don't ask me why). 

I didn’t want to do it any more.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Share Long]

Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little 
consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. 
PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are 
cracked!





 From: Bob Price 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess
 


  


Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing anything at 
all!", he was making a fashion statement? 

I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to 
make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.


From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess

Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? 
After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks 
also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure!


From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess

Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical 
vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, 
always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of 
my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy 
attributes.

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:

>  
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>>
>
>> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. 
>> Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen 
>> in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is 
>> THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some 
>> yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a 
>> long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, 
>> even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good 
>> to be vulnerable?
>
>
Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
>grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
>very *relevant* to his point.
>
>

    

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Bob Price]

Share, are you saying when the child said: "But he isn't wearing anything at 
all!", he was making a fashion statement? 


I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to 
make a meal out of Xeno's vanity.





From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess




Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? 
After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks 
also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure!





From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess




Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical 
vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, 
always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of 
my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy 
attributes.





On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:


>  
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>>
>
>> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. 
>> Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen 
>> in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is 
>> THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some 
>> yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a 
>> long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, 
>> even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good 
>> to be vulnerable?
>
>
Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
>grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
>very *relevant* to his point.
>
>



     

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

Well first thing Grandpa Xeno needs to understand is I do not approach
matters of heart like him, like some cold, psychopathic, "bone-a-babe"
clinical experiments. I'm a real sensitive, compassionate, vulnerable
lover. As it is I find it hard to fall in love and I was apparently cursed
and the existence played a cruel, twisted joke by making me fall in love
with a woman who is currently fantasizing on Amma. So yeah you all have to
deal with my sexually frustrated insults in the interim :-)



On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:57 AM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> **
>
>
> I think the term shared by Xeno to Ravi, "Bone a babe," was giving good
> elderly advice. Xeno, having had many experiences is wondering why a young
> fit hunk like Ravi would be spending his days posting on boards, when in
> Xeno's mind, that is the LAST thing Xeno would be doing if he had his
> chance to do it over, and those three words as blunt as they are, are to
> the point as in, "No time to waste cuz life creeps up on you fast, better
> go use it before you loose it," type of wisdom. :)
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... 
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > *sigh*
> > > >
> > > > Yeah you figured out my Grandpa Xeno - in the absence of his
> Universal,
> > > > abstract constructs he turns into a graceless, tactless douche-bag.
> > > >
> > > > But you know what that creepy, cold, heartless bastard may have never
> > > > fallen in love, may have never sung a song in joy or pain, may never
> have
> > > > played an instrument, written poetry, loved any children or pets,
> but he
> > > > certainly loves me !!! Because his Universal, abstract constructs
> fail once
> > > > I start messing with his big head and so he will be always be
> redeemed
> > > > because that bitter, sullen old man loves me.
> > >
> > > Xeno will forever be remembered in my mind as the man who said "bone a
> babe". I have never quite heard it said like this and coming from him it
> opened my eyes a little bit. Now all this talk about Charlie M with his
> unquotable quotes. Ravi, you have finally gotten to the Xenon, you hit some
> tragic nerve and all Spock-like control has left him, for a few moments.
> > > >
> >
> > Yes, I was unpleasantly surprised by that expression, too. Sounds so
> clinical, like de-boning a fish or a chicken. Definitely some social
> integration needed for Zee-no. Hope he doesn't meet any "babes" in the
> meantime.
> >
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[doctordumbass]

yep, though I ask myself what else I would have done for work, and can't come 
up with a good answer.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
>
> Ah yes, fun timesI'll spare you my horror stories as I'm in a good mood 
> this morning.  Smile.   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > The most difficult thing about it, is having to track and document the 
> > person's behavior meticulously. Fortunately I was helped out greatly in one 
> > case, when the person on a performance plan confided in me that they had 
> > found a piece of glass in a cookie served during a large meeting, and that 
> > it was meant for them specifically. Also had someone literally push their 
> > laptop onto the floor and smash it to avoid a milestone date. Fun times.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's preferable to be in charge of hiring and not afraid to fire - that's 
> > > what I say.  Unfortunately, firing can be a difficult thing.  Smile.  
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and 
> > > > minimize my time around potentially harmful people:
> > > > 
> > > > Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to 
> > > > spot weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something 
> > > > criminal or violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet 
> > > > someone. I don't wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, 
> > > > engage, and observe. If they have manipulative tendencies, the second 
> > > > time I meet them, they are assuming a green light, based on our first 
> > > > interaction, and reveal much more of themselves. Easy enough to 
> > > > graciously sidestep at that point.
> > > > 
> > > > Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when 
> > > > interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that 
> > > > if someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial 
> > > > interview, it will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is 
> > > > down. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea.  I always take 
> > > > > sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one? 
> > > > >  Not something to play with.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually 
> > > > > > quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Our Father who art in heaven,
> > > > > > > hallowed be thy name.
> > > > > > > Thy kingdom come.
> > > > > > > Thy will be done
> > > > > > > on earth as it is in heaven.
> > > > > > > Give us this day our daily bread,
> > > > > > > and forgive us our trespasses,
> > > > > > > as we forgive those who trespass against us,
> > > > > > > and lead us not into temptation,
> > > > > > > but deliver us from evil.
> > > > > > > For thine is the kingdom,
> > > > > > > and the power, and the glory,
> > > > > > > for ever and ever.
> > > > > > > Amen.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just 
> > > > > > > > > means you
> > > > > > > > don't have to do as much.'
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The Mean Girls Club
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[doctordumbass]

Sure, a forceful injection of the element lead, into his brain, would cure 
him.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Doc, of course keep him locked up and probably in solitary confinement too. 
> But is that it?! Are you saying that nothing should be done to try to fix his 
> brain?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:03 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
> invincible, infallible Goddess
>  
> 
> 
>   
> I have read a lot about him, and watched his interviews in the past. He is 
> simply a con artist. He grew up in the prison system, and I wouldn't believe 
> the guy if he told me the sun would rise tomorrow. He is very easy to see 
> through - no mystery at all. Scum.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total 
> > > paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off 
> > > right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on 
> > > reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, 
> > > all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to 
> > > acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story.
> > 
> > Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous 
> > but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove 
> > useful here.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________
> > >  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless 
> > > > zombie like you?
> > > 
> > > Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing 
> > > shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I 
> > > suggest Charles Manson:
> > > 
> > > 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our 
> > > own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really 
> > > my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't 
> > > you see I'm free?'
> > > 
> > > 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it 
> > > Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world 
> > > up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to 
> > > me. It's there. It's the will of life.'
> > > 
> > > 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. 
> > > You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> > > 
> > > 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, 
> > > completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â€" 
> > > it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the 
> > > desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every 
> > > sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of 
> > > total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.'
> > > 
> > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't 
> > > have to do as much.'
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Share Long]

Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? 
After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks 
also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure!





 From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess
 


  
Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical 
vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, 
always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of 
my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy 
attributes.





On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:

 
>  
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>>
>
>> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. 
>> Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen 
>> in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is 
>> THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some 
>> yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a 
>> long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, 
>> even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good 
>> to be vulnerable?
>
>
Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
>grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
>very *relevant* to his point.
>
>

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[sparaig]

He doesn't appear to mention TM at all


And why would people be unable to do TM because of face blindness or any of the 
other issues mentioned?

Dementia to the point that they can't remember instructions would prevent 
someone from learning/practicing TM, and no doubt specific brain injuries can 
cause problems that TM teachers don't know how to workaround, but that's 
different than generic "brain damage" preventing you from learning TM.

L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
> 
> Maharishi failed to tell you that if the brain has serious
> hardware problems, TM is practically useless.  Other schools
> have already acknowledged this.
> 
> http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm
> 
> 
> http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece
> 
> 
> 
> ---  Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total
> paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off
> right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on
> reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient,
> all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to
> acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> > ---  Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless
> zombie like you?
> >
> >
> >  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
> >
> > Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing
> shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I
> suggest Charles Manson:
> >
> > 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do
> our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not
> really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind.
> Can't you see I'm free?'
> >
> > 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it
> Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world
> up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to
> me. It's there. It's the will of life.'
> >
> > 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world.
> You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> >
> > 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in,
> completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert ��"
> it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the
> desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every
> sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state
> of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.'
> >
> > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> don't have to do as much.'
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Share Long]

Jason, thanks so much for great article by Dr. Ramachandran, a man who seems to 
be bridging the chasm between the philosophers and the scientists. I find his 
communication style very accessible and in amazon there are reviews that 
indicate this gift carries over into the book. Here's an old TED talk of his:
http://www.ted.com/talks/vilayanur_ramachandran_on_your_mind.html





From: Jason 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess





Maharishi failed to tell you that if the brain has serious 
hardware problems, TM is practically useless.  Other schools 
have already acknowledged this.

http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm

http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece


---  Share Long  wrote:
>
> Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, 
> and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there 
> IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. 
> Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and 
> unconscious
drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story.
> 
>  
> 

> ---  Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> 
> > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie 
> > like you?
> 
>
>  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius  
>
> Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows 
> you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest 
> Charles Manson:
> 
> 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own 
> time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair 
> unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm 
> free?'
> 
> 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it 
> Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world
up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. 
It's there. It's the will of life.'
> 
> 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You 
> can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> 
> 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely 
> aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â€" it's the same thing, 
> man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware 
> of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees 
> everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia 
> is total awareness.'
> 
> 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have 
> to do as much.'
>


     

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[obbajeeba]

Having to deal with a "Mutiny on the Bounty," once, and wow, that was not easy 
having to listen to a plan of a stupid man and his real suggestions of aim to a 
team. The man not realizing my position of stand and of authority to the 
particular project, I almost had an ass whooping by an overly macho guy as I 
prepared to kick his ass, the team reserved their stance by standing or sitting 
quietly. We must have looked like we were doing a square dance in the middle of 
the room. I was shaking from the adrenalin rush.
It was almost a scene from Fight Club. It didn't end up that way. I pulled back 
and used his mule meat till the project was over. Sounds like a power trip?  
Not on my end. I was protecting the whole project and the client and succeeded 
until it ended.  The man thought I was enemy to the person who organized the 
event, which was further from the truth. He based his findings on gossip. One 
thing about gossip, it bears no facts. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> The most difficult thing about it, is having to track and document the 
> person's behavior meticulously. Fortunately I was helped out greatly in one 
> case, when the person on a performance plan confided in me that they had 
> found a piece of glass in a cookie served during a large meeting, and that it 
> was meant for them specifically. Also had someone literally push their laptop 
> onto the floor and smash it to avoid a milestone date. Fun times.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
> >
> > It's preferable to be in charge of hiring and not afraid to fire - that's 
> > what I say.  Unfortunately, firing can be a difficult thing.  Smile.  
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize 
> > > my time around potentially harmful people:
> > > 
> > > Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to 
> > > spot weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal 
> > > or violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I 
> > > don't wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and 
> > > observe. If they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet 
> > > them, they are assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, 
> > > and reveal much more of themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at 
> > > that point.
> > > 
> > > Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when 
> > > interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if 
> > > someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, 
> > > it will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea.  I always take 
> > > > sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one?  
> > > > Not something to play with.  
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually 
> > > > > quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Our Father who art in heaven,
> > > > > > hallowed be thy name.
> > > > > > Thy kingdom come.
> > > > > > Thy will be done
> > > > > > on earth as it is in heaven.
> > > > > > Give us this day our daily bread,
> > > > > > and forgive us our trespasses,
> > > > > > as we forgive those who trespass against us,
> > > > > > and lead us not into temptation,
> > > > > > but deliver us from evil.
> > > > > > For thine is the kingdom,
> > > > > > and the power, and the glory,
> > > > > > for ever and ever.
> > > > > > Amen.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means 
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > don't have to do as much.'
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The Mean Girls Club
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[emilymae.reyn]

What would *you* suggest Share?  Please support your ideas with research on the 
efficacy of whatever you propose.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Doc, of course keep him locked up and probably in solitary confinement too. 
> But is that it?! Are you saying that nothing should be done to try to fix his 
> brain?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:03 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
> invincible, infallible Goddess
>  
> 
> 
>   
> I have read a lot about him, and watched his interviews in the past. He is 
> simply a con artist. He grew up in the prison system, and I wouldn't believe 
> the guy if he told me the sun would rise tomorrow. He is very easy to see 
> through - no mystery at all. Scum.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total 
> > > paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off 
> > > right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on 
> > > reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, 
> > > all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to 
> > > acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story.
> > 
> > Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous 
> > but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove 
> > useful here.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________
> > >  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of 
> > > the invincible, infallible Goddess
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless 
> > > > zombie like you?
> > > 
> > > Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing 
> > > shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I 
> > > suggest Charles Manson:
> > > 
> > > 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our 
> > > own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really 
> > > my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't 
> > > you see I'm free?'
> > > 
> > > 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it 
> > > Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world 
> > > up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to 
> > > me. It's there. It's the will of life.'
> > > 
> > > 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. 
> > > You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> > > 
> > > 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, 
> > > completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â€" 
> > > it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the 
> > > desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every 
> > > sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of 
> > > total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.'
> > > 
> > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't 
> > > have to do as much.'
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[emilymae.reyn]

Ah yes, fun timesI'll spare you my horror stories as I'm in a good mood 
this morning.  Smile.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> The most difficult thing about it, is having to track and document the 
> person's behavior meticulously. Fortunately I was helped out greatly in one 
> case, when the person on a performance plan confided in me that they had 
> found a piece of glass in a cookie served during a large meeting, and that it 
> was meant for them specifically. Also had someone literally push their laptop 
> onto the floor and smash it to avoid a milestone date. Fun times.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
> >
> > It's preferable to be in charge of hiring and not afraid to fire - that's 
> > what I say.  Unfortunately, firing can be a difficult thing.  Smile.  
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize 
> > > my time around potentially harmful people:
> > > 
> > > Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to 
> > > spot weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal 
> > > or violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I 
> > > don't wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and 
> > > observe. If they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet 
> > > them, they are assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, 
> > > and reveal much more of themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at 
> > > that point.
> > > 
> > > Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when 
> > > interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if 
> > > someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, 
> > > it will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea.  I always take 
> > > > sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one?  
> > > > Not something to play with.  
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually 
> > > > > quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Our Father who art in heaven,
> > > > > > hallowed be thy name.
> > > > > > Thy kingdom come.
> > > > > > Thy will be done
> > > > > > on earth as it is in heaven.
> > > > > > Give us this day our daily bread,
> > > > > > and forgive us our trespasses,
> > > > > > as we forgive those who trespass against us,
> > > > > > and lead us not into temptation,
> > > > > > but deliver us from evil.
> > > > > > For thine is the kingdom,
> > > > > > and the power, and the glory,
> > > > > > for ever and ever.
> > > > > > Amen.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means 
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > don't have to do as much.'
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The Mean Girls Club
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Share Long]

Doc, of course keep him locked up and probably in solitary confinement too. But 
is that it?! Are you saying that nothing should be done to try to fix his brain?





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:03 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess
 


  
I have read a lot about him, and watched his interviews in the past. He is 
simply a con artist. He grew up in the prison system, and I wouldn't believe 
the guy if he told me the sun would rise tomorrow. He is very easy to see 
through - no mystery at all. Scum.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, 
> > and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there 
> > IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. 
> > Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival 
> > and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's 
> > not the whole story.
> 
> Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous 
> but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove 
> useful here.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____
> >  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
> > invincible, infallible Goddess
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless 
> > > zombie like you?
> > 
> > Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows 
> > you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest 
> > Charles Manson:
> > 
> > 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our 
> > own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my 
> > affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you 
> > see I'm free?'
> > 
> > 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it 
> > Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world 
> > up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. 
> > It's there. It's the will of life.'
> > 
> > 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You 
> > can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> > 
> > 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, 
> > completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â€" it's 
> > the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert 
> > delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, 
> > smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total 
> > paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.'
> > 
> > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't 
> > have to do as much.'
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[doctordumbass]

The most difficult thing about it, is having to track and document the person's 
behavior meticulously. Fortunately I was helped out greatly in one case, when 
the person on a performance plan confided in me that they had found a piece of 
glass in a cookie served during a large meeting, and that it was meant for them 
specifically. Also had someone literally push their laptop onto the floor and 
smash it to avoid a milestone date. Fun times.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
>
> It's preferable to be in charge of hiring and not afraid to fire - that's 
> what I say.  Unfortunately, firing can be a difficult thing.  Smile.  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize my 
> > time around potentially harmful people:
> > 
> > Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to spot 
> > weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal or 
> > violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I don't 
> > wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and observe. If 
> > they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet them, they are 
> > assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, and reveal much 
> > more of themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at that point.
> > 
> > Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when 
> > interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if 
> > someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, it 
> > will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea.  I always take 
> > > sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one?  
> > > Not something to play with.  
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually 
> > > > quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-)
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Our Father who art in heaven,
> > > > > hallowed be thy name.
> > > > > Thy kingdom come.
> > > > > Thy will be done
> > > > > on earth as it is in heaven.
> > > > > Give us this day our daily bread,
> > > > > and forgive us our trespasses,
> > > > > as we forgive those who trespass against us,
> > > > > and lead us not into temptation,
> > > > > but deliver us from evil.
> > > > > For thine is the kingdom,
> > > > > and the power, and the glory,
> > > > > for ever and ever.
> > > > > Amen.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> > > > > > don't have to do as much.'
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Mean Girls Club
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[card]

Someone who makes that claim doesn't seem to understand
TM at all??

ROFLOL!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
> 
> Maharishi failed to tell you that if the brain has serious
> hardware problems, TM is practically useless.  Other schools
> have already acknowledged this.
> 
> http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm
> 
> 
> http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece
> 
> 
> 
> ---  Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total
> paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off
> right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on
> reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient,
> all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to
> acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> > ---  Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless
> zombie like you?
> >
> >
> >  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
> >
> > Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing
> shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I
> suggest Charles Manson:
> >
> > 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do
> our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not
> really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind.
> Can't you see I'm free?'
> >
> > 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it
> Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world
> up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to
> me. It's there. It's the will of life.'
> >
> > 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world.
> You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> >
> > 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in,
> completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â€"
> it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the
> desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every
> sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state
> of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.'
> >
> > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> don't have to do as much.'
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[emilymae.reyn]

It's preferable to be in charge of hiring and not afraid to fire - that's what 
I say.  Unfortunately, firing can be a difficult thing.  Smile.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize my 
> time around potentially harmful people:
> 
> Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to spot 
> weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal or 
> violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I don't 
> wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and observe. If 
> they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet them, they are 
> assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, and reveal much more 
> of themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at that point.
> 
> Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when 
> interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if 
> someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, it 
> will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
> >
> > Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea.  I always take 
> > sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one?  Not 
> > something to play with.  
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite 
> > > happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-)
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:
> > > > 
> > > > Our Father who art in heaven,
> > > > hallowed be thy name.
> > > > Thy kingdom come.
> > > > Thy will be done
> > > > on earth as it is in heaven.
> > > > Give us this day our daily bread,
> > > > and forgive us our trespasses,
> > > > as we forgive those who trespass against us,
> > > > and lead us not into temptation,
> > > > but deliver us from evil.
> > > > For thine is the kingdom,
> > > > and the power, and the glory,
> > > > for ever and ever.
> > > > Amen.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> > > > > don't have to do as much.'
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Mean Girls Club
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[doctordumbass]

I have read a lot about him, and watched his interviews in the past. He is 
simply a con artist. He grew up in the prison system, and I wouldn't believe 
the guy if he told me the sun would rise tomorrow. He is very easy to see 
through - no mystery at all. Scum.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, 
> > and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there 
> > IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. 
> > Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival 
> > and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's 
> > not the whole story.
> 
> Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous 
> but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove 
> useful here.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
> > invincible, infallible Goddess
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless 
> > > zombie like you?
> > 
> > Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows 
> > you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest 
> > Charles Manson:
> > 
> > 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our 
> > own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my 
> > affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you 
> > see I'm free?'
> > 
> > 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it 
> > Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world 
> > up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. 
> > It's there. It's the will of life.'
> > 
> > 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You 
> > can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> > 
> > 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, 
> > completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â€" it's 
> > the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert 
> > delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, 
> > smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total 
> > paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.'
> > 
> > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't 
> > have to do as much.'
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[emilymae.reyn]

Just lessons learned, Iranitea.  I'm not holding onto anything negative 
associated with my run-ins or experiences.  Have a nice day.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
> >
> > Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea.  I always take 
> > sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one?  
> 
> No, I was lucky not to have this experience.  Sorry to evoke some bad 
> memories and stuff.
> 
> > Not something to play with.  
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite 
> > > happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-)
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:
> > > > 
> > > > Our Father who art in heaven,
> > > > hallowed be thy name.
> > > > Thy kingdom come.
> > > > Thy will be done
> > > > on earth as it is in heaven.
> > > > Give us this day our daily bread,
> > > > and forgive us our trespasses,
> > > > as we forgive those who trespass against us,
> > > > and lead us not into temptation,
> > > > but deliver us from evil.
> > > > For thine is the kingdom,
> > > > and the power, and the glory,
> > > > for ever and ever.
> > > > Amen.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> > > > > don't have to do as much.'
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Mean Girls Club
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[obbajeeba]

I think the term shared by Xeno to Ravi, "Bone a babe," was giving good elderly 
advice. Xeno, having had many experiences is wondering why a young fit hunk 
like Ravi would be spending his days posting on boards, when in Xeno's mind, 
that is the LAST thing Xeno would be doing if he had his chance to do it over, 
and those three words as blunt as they are, are to the point as in, "No time to 
waste cuz life creeps up on you fast, better go use it before you loose it," 
type of wisdom. :)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> > > 
> > > Yeah you figured out my Grandpa Xeno - in the absence of his Universal,
> > > abstract constructs he turns into a graceless, tactless douche-bag.
> > > 
> > > But you know what that creepy, cold, heartless bastard may have never
> > > fallen in love, may have never sung a song in joy or pain, may never have
> > > played an instrument, written poetry, loved any children or pets, but he
> > > certainly loves me !!! Because his Universal, abstract constructs fail 
> > > once
> > > I start messing with his big head and so he will be always be redeemed
> > > because that bitter, sullen old man loves me.
> > 
> > Xeno will forever be remembered in my mind as the man who said "bone a 
> > babe". I have never quite heard it said like this and coming from him it 
> > opened my eyes a little bit. Now all this talk about Charlie M with his 
> > unquotable quotes. Ravi, you have finally gotten to the Xenon, you hit some 
> > tragic nerve and all Spock-like control has left him, for a few moments.
> > > 
> 
> Yes, I was unpleasantly surprised by that expression, too. Sounds so 
> clinical, like de-boning a fish or a chicken. Definitely some social 
> integration needed for Zee-no. Hope he doesn't meet any "babes" in the 
> meantime.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[doctordumbass]

A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize my 
time around potentially harmful people:

Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to spot 
weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal or 
violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I don't 
wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and observe. If 
they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet them, they are 
assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, and reveal much more of 
themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at that point.

Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when 
interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if 
someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, it will 
manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
>
> Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea.  I always take 
> sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one?  Not 
> something to play with.  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> >
> > Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite 
> > happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:
> > > 
> > > Our Father who art in heaven,
> > > hallowed be thy name.
> > > Thy kingdom come.
> > > Thy will be done
> > > on earth as it is in heaven.
> > > Give us this day our daily bread,
> > > and forgive us our trespasses,
> > > as we forgive those who trespass against us,
> > > and lead us not into temptation,
> > > but deliver us from evil.
> > > For thine is the kingdom,
> > > and the power, and the glory,
> > > for ever and ever.
> > > Amen.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> > > > don't have to do as much.'
> > > > 
> > > > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > > > 
> > > > The Mean Girls Club
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[doctordumbass]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > *sigh*
> > 
> > Yeah you figured out my Grandpa Xeno - in the absence of his Universal,
> > abstract constructs he turns into a graceless, tactless douche-bag.
> > 
> > But you know what that creepy, cold, heartless bastard may have never
> > fallen in love, may have never sung a song in joy or pain, may never have
> > played an instrument, written poetry, loved any children or pets, but he
> > certainly loves me !!! Because his Universal, abstract constructs fail once
> > I start messing with his big head and so he will be always be redeemed
> > because that bitter, sullen old man loves me.
> 
> Xeno will forever be remembered in my mind as the man who said "bone a babe". 
> I have never quite heard it said like this and coming from him it opened my 
> eyes a little bit. Now all this talk about Charlie M with his unquotable 
> quotes. Ravi, you have finally gotten to the Xenon, you hit some tragic nerve 
> and all Spock-like control has left him, for a few moments.
> > 

Yes, I was unpleasantly surprised by that expression, too. Sounds so clinical, 
like de-boning a fish or a chicken. Definitely some social integration needed 
for Zee-no. Hope he doesn't meet any "babes" in the meantime.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[iranitea]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
>
> Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea.  I always take 
> sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one?  

No, I was lucky not to have this experience.  Sorry to evoke some bad memories 
and stuff.

> Not something to play with.  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> >
> > Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite 
> > happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:
> > > 
> > > Our Father who art in heaven,
> > > hallowed be thy name.
> > > Thy kingdom come.
> > > Thy will be done
> > > on earth as it is in heaven.
> > > Give us this day our daily bread,
> > > and forgive us our trespasses,
> > > as we forgive those who trespass against us,
> > > and lead us not into temptation,
> > > but deliver us from evil.
> > > For thine is the kingdom,
> > > and the power, and the glory,
> > > for ever and ever.
> > > Amen.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> > > > don't have to do as much.'
> > > > 
> > > > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > > > 
> > > > The Mean Girls Club
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[iranitea]

Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy 
about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
>
> Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:
> 
> Our Father who art in heaven,
> hallowed be thy name.
> Thy kingdom come.
> Thy will be done
> on earth as it is in heaven.
> Give us this day our daily bread,
> and forgive us our trespasses,
> as we forgive those who trespass against us,
> and lead us not into temptation,
> but deliver us from evil.
> For thine is the kingdom,
> and the power, and the glory,
> for ever and ever.
> Amen.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
> > >
> > 
> > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> > don't have to do as much.'
> > 
> > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > 
> > The Mean Girls Club
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[emilymae.reyn]

Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea.  I always take 
sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one?  Not 
something to play with.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
>
> Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite 
> happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
> >
> > Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:
> > 
> > Our Father who art in heaven,
> > hallowed be thy name.
> > Thy kingdom come.
> > Thy will be done
> > on earth as it is in heaven.
> > Give us this day our daily bread,
> > and forgive us our trespasses,
> > as we forgive those who trespass against us,
> > and lead us not into temptation,
> > but deliver us from evil.
> > For thine is the kingdom,
> > and the power, and the glory,
> > for ever and ever.
> > Amen.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> > > don't have to do as much.'
> > > 
> > > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > > 
> > > The Mean Girls Club
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[emilymae.reyn]

This review of Guinn's book was in the paper:
http://seattletimes.com/html/books/2021627178_charlesmansonbiographyxml.\
html
<http://seattletimes.com/html/books/2021627178_charlesmansonbiographyxml\
.html
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
> > Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total
paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off
right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on
reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient,
all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to
acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story.
>
> Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only
frivolous but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap
might prove useful here.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth
of the invincible, infallible Goddess
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold,
heartless zombie like you?
> >
> > Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing
shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I
suggest Charles Manson:
> >
> > 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we
do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not
really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind.
Can't you see I'm free?'
> >
> > 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call
it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the
world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still
music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.'
> >
> > 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the
world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> >
> > 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in,
completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â€"
it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the
desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every
sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state
of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.'
> >
> > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
don't have to do as much.'
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[iranitea]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
> > 
> > > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> > don't have to do as much.'
> > 
> > Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> > 
> > The Mean Girls Club
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
> 
> Wow, we really scare the bejesus out of you, don't we?

Nope, you don't. Just having a little fun here. :D
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, 
> and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there 
> IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. 
> Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and 
> unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not 
> the whole story.

Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous but 
probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove useful 
here.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
> invincible, infallible Goddess
>  
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> 
> > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie 
> > like you?
> 
> Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows 
> you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest 
> Charles Manson:
> 
> 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own 
> time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair 
> unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm 
> free?'
> 
> 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it 
> Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, 
> call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's 
> there. It's the will of life.'
> 
> 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You 
> can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> 
> 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely 
> aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â€" it's the same thing, 
> man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware 
> of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees 
> everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia 
> is total awareness.'
> 
> 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have 
> to do as much.'
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
> 
> > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> don't have to do as much.'
> 
> Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> 
> The Mean Girls Club
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI

Wow, we really scare the bejesus out of you, don't we?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[emilymae.reyn]

Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with:

Our Father who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.
Amen.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
> >
> 
> > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
> don't have to do as much.'
> 
> Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?
> 
> The Mean Girls Club
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> *sigh*
> 
> Yeah you figured out my Grandpa Xeno - in the absence of his Universal,
> abstract constructs he turns into a graceless, tactless douche-bag.
> 
> But you know what that creepy, cold, heartless bastard may have never
> fallen in love, may have never sung a song in joy or pain, may never have
> played an instrument, written poetry, loved any children or pets, but he
> certainly loves me !!! Because his Universal, abstract constructs fail once
> I start messing with his big head and so he will be always be redeemed
> because that bitter, sullen old man loves me.

Xeno will forever be remembered in my mind as the man who said "bone a babe". I 
have never quite heard it said like this and coming from him it opened my eyes 
a little bit. Now all this talk about Charlie M with his unquotable quotes. 
Ravi, you have finally gotten to the Xenon, you hit some tragic nerve and all 
Spock-like control has left him, for a few moments.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:48 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Xeno Exustio Offensio Vulnus Anorexias, "Bone a babe?"  Come on! Really?
> > You need social skills!  Here;
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyIuuktFTn0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius <
> > > anartaxius@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ​You trying to start a debate with reality Grandpa 
> > > > > Xeno?
> >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You are one of the most hopelessly deluded persons on FFL BTW. The
> > man of
> > > > > the Universal, abstract constructs aka platitudes :-)
> > > >
> > > > You really need to bone a babe Ravi. You are stuck, you gotta break
> > out of
> > > > that mold. Do you have a standardised form you fill out when you post?
> > > >
> > > > 'You are { insult #1 }, { insult #2 }, { insult #3 }, etc., {
> > > > categorisation remark #1 }, { categorisation remark #2 }, etc.
> > > >
> > > > You write and post some nice things from time to time. You need some
> > > > social skills not related to reading Judy's and Barry's posts.
> > > >
> > >
> > > ​Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, 
> > > heartless
> > zombie
> >
> > > like you? LOL..I am a natural charmer, I easily charm and entertain and
> > > captivate an audience. It shows how alienated from reality and how
> > > hopelessly deluded you are, you idiot.
> > >
> > > Did you read Bob Price from last night, that I make insults sing and
> > dance?
> > >
> > > I spend lot of intelligence in my insults - whereas you SPEND ZERO
> > > INTELLIGENCE AND ZERO CREATIVITY in your Universal, abstract constructs.
> > >
> > > My insults are highly customized for each individual you ignorant fool -
> > > show me where I reuse my insults - who else have I accused of using
> > > Universal, abstract constructs other than you?
> > >
> > > I only use generic insults when I'm still in the bait, provoke mode,
> > still
> > > collecting some information on an individual, building my dossier.
> > >
> > > ​
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Jason]

Maharishi failed to tell you that if the brain has serious
hardware problems, TM is practically useless.  Other schools
have already acknowledged this.

http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm


http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece



---  Share Long  wrote:
>
> Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total
paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off
right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on
reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient,
all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to
acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story.
>
>
>

> ---  Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless
zombie like you?
>
>
>  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
>
> Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing
shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I
suggest Charles Manson:
>
> 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do
our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not
really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind.
Can't you see I'm free?'
>
> 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it
Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world
up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to
me. It's there. It's the will of life.'
>
> 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world.
You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
>
> 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in,
completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â€"
it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the
desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every
sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state
of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.'
>
> 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
don't have to do as much.'
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[iranitea]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
>

> 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you
don't have to do as much.'

Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally?

The Mean Girls Club

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Share Long]

Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and 
total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The 
guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of 
course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious 
drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story.




 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

> Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie 
> like you?

Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you 
are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles 
Manson:

'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own 
time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair 
unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?'

'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it 
Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, 
call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's 
there. It's the will of life.'

'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You 
can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'

'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely 
aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert — it's the same thing, 
man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of 
everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees 
everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is 
total awareness.'

'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have 
to do as much.'


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

"Ravi, did you get anymore out of Xeno's statement above, or is it just me?"

No dear, I'm in the same boat yeah. I'm telling you it's hard to make
Grandpa Xeno give up his universal, abstract constructs easily but once he
does he sounds totally deranged. He has this weird fascination with serial
killers and psychopaths and sociopaths and it comes out - I'm used to it
now, but yeah you will get used to it eventually.


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:51 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless
> zombie like you?
> >
> > Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing
> shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I
> suggest Charles Manson:
> >
> > 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do
> our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really
> my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you
> see I'm free?'
> >
> > 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it
> Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world
> up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me.
> It's there. It's the will of life.'
> >
> > 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world.
> You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> >
> > 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in,
> completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert — it's the
> same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert
> delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound,
> smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total
> paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.'
> >
> > 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't
> have to do as much.'
> >
> "Do less and accomplish more." Huh?
> Just sit with your eyes close and hand over all your money. If you have
> none left, than you have bad karma. The coyote's paranoiaShare, where
> are you, you can explain better than Xeno Anorexias. I am not even sure how
> to tackle his logic here. Go with the flow, giving money does not make
> poverty go away. "Oh say can you see! By the dawn's early light!"
> Xenotardness prevails as the twilight's last gleeming! How about those Sox,
> eh? Can't fly from your pants, but a fly is on your pants! Do nothing, stop
> typing, stop acting, stop producing, but step right up and sign up here and
> see the amazing Bearded Woman! Come and see her now! Only $2.00 USD.
> Go within, forget about the kitchari on the stove! Burn, burn, burn, do
> nothing, eat the center, accomplish pretzels!
> Sorry Xeno, this is about the state of awareness you seem to be in. Just
> an example of Christ, Coyote awareness?
> Poop. I am posting more and doing less. Just be. Ravi, did you get anymore
> out of Xeno's statement above, or is it just me?
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[doctordumbass]

Manson, despite these quotes, made a much stronger statement with the knives 
and guns of his followers, and those who were murdered as a result of his 
hatred, and sociopathy. What a total punk that guy is. Beyond disgusting. A 
true waste of space. May he pass away tomorrow, or sooner.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> 
> > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie 
> > like you?
> 
> Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows 
> you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest 
> Charles Manson:
> 
> 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own 
> time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair 
> unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm 
> free?'
> 
> 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it 
> Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, 
> call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's 
> there. It's the will of life.'
> 
> 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You 
> can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> 
> 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely 
> aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert — it's the same thing, 
> man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware 
> of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees 
> everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia 
> is total awareness.'
> 
> 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have 
> to do as much.'
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> 
> > Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie 
> > like you?
> 
> Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows 
> you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest 
> Charles Manson:
> 
> 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own 
> time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair 
> unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm 
> free?'
> 
> 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it 
> Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, 
> call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's 
> there. It's the will of life.'
> 
> 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You 
> can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'
> 
> 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely 
> aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert — it's the same thing, 
> man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware 
> of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees 
> everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia 
> is total awareness.'
> 
> 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have 
> to do as much.'
>
"Do less and accomplish more." Huh?
Just sit with your eyes close and hand over all your money. If you have none 
left, than you have bad karma. The coyote's paranoiaShare, where are you, 
you can explain better than Xeno Anorexias. I am not even sure how to tackle 
his logic here. Go with the flow, giving money does not make poverty go away. 
"Oh say can you see!  By the dawn's early light!"  Xenotardness prevails as the 
twilight's last gleeming! How about those Sox, eh? Can't fly from your pants, 
but a fly is on your pants!  Do nothing, stop typing, stop acting, stop 
producing, but step right up and sign up here and see the amazing Bearded 
Woman!  Come and see her now!  Only $2.00 USD.
Go within, forget about the kitchari on the stove! Burn, burn, burn, do 
nothing, eat the center, accomplish pretzels!  
Sorry Xeno, this is about the state of awareness you seem to be in. Just an 
example of Christ, Coyote awareness? 
Poop. I am posting more and doing less. Just be. Ravi, did you get anymore out 
of Xeno's statement above, or is it just me?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

*sigh*

Yeah you figured out my Grandpa Xeno - in the absence of his Universal,
abstract constructs he turns into a graceless, tactless douche-bag.

But you know what that creepy, cold, heartless bastard may have never
fallen in love, may have never sung a song in joy or pain, may never have
played an instrument, written poetry, loved any children or pets, but he
certainly loves me !!! Because his Universal, abstract constructs fail once
I start messing with his big head and so he will be always be redeemed
because that bitter, sullen old man loves me.





On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:48 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Xeno Exustio Offensio Vulnus Anorexias, "Bone a babe?"  Come on! Really?
> You need social skills!  Here;
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyIuuktFTn0
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius <
> > anartaxius@... wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ​You trying to start a debate with reality Grandpa Xeno?
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You are one of the most hopelessly deluded persons on FFL BTW. The
> man of
> > > > the Universal, abstract constructs aka platitudes :-)
> > >
> > > You really need to bone a babe Ravi. You are stuck, you gotta break
> out of
> > > that mold. Do you have a standardised form you fill out when you post?
> > >
> > > 'You are { insult #1 }, { insult #2 }, { insult #3 }, etc., {
> > > categorisation remark #1 }, { categorisation remark #2 }, etc.
> > >
> > > You write and post some nice things from time to time. You need some
> > > social skills not related to reading Judy's and Barry's posts.
> > >
> >
> > ​Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless
> zombie
>
> > like you? LOL..I am a natural charmer, I easily charm and entertain and
> > captivate an audience. It shows how alienated from reality and how
> > hopelessly deluded you are, you idiot.
> >
> > Did you read Bob Price from last night, that I make insults sing and
> dance?
> >
> > I spend lot of intelligence in my insults - whereas you SPEND ZERO
> > INTELLIGENCE AND ZERO CREATIVITY in your Universal, abstract constructs.
> >
> > My insults are highly customized for each individual you ignorant fool -
> > show me where I reuse my insults - who else have I accused of using
> > Universal, abstract constructs other than you?
> >
> > I only use generic insults when I'm still in the bait, provoke mode,
> still
> > collecting some information on an individual, building my dossier.
> >
> > ​
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

> Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie 
> like you?

Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you 
are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles 
Manson:

'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own 
time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair 
unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?'

'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it 
Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, 
call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's 
there. It's the will of life.'

'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You 
can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.'

'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely 
aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert — it's the same thing, 
man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of 
everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees 
everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is 
total awareness.'

'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have 
to do as much.'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[obbajeeba]

Xeno Exustio Offensio Vulnus Anorexias, "Bone a babe?"  Come on! Really?
You need social skills!  Here;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyIuuktFTn0






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius <
> anartaxius@... wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > wrote:
> >
> > > ​You trying to start a debate with reality Grandpa
Xeno?
> >
> > >
> > > You are one of the most hopelessly deluded persons on FFL BTW. The
man of
> > > the Universal, abstract constructs aka platitudes :-)
> >
> > You really need to bone a babe Ravi. You are stuck, you gotta break
out of
> > that mold. Do you have a standardised form you fill out when you
post?
> >
> > 'You are { insult #1 }, { insult #2 }, { insult #3 }, etc., {
> > categorisation remark #1 }, { categorisation remark #2 }, etc.
> >
> > You write and post some nice things from time to time. You need some
> > social skills not related to reading Judy's and Barry's posts.
> >
>
> ​Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold,
heartless zombie
> like you? LOL..I am a natural charmer, I easily charm and entertain
and
> captivate an audience. It shows how alienated from reality and how
> hopelessly deluded you are, you idiot.
>
> Did you read Bob Price from last night, that I make insults sing and
dance?
>
> I spend lot of intelligence in my insults - whereas you SPEND ZERO
> INTELLIGENCE AND ZERO CREATIVITY in your Universal, abstract
constructs.
>
> My insults are highly customized for each individual you ignorant fool
-
> show me where I reuse my insults - who else have I accused of using
> Universal, abstract constructs other than you?
>
> I only use generic insults when I'm still in the bait, provoke mode,
still
> collecting some information on an individual, building my dossier.
>
> ​
>
>
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius <
anartax...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
>
> > ​You trying to start a debate with reality Grandpa Xeno?
>
> >
> > You are one of the most hopelessly deluded persons on FFL BTW. The man of
> > the Universal, abstract constructs aka platitudes :-)
>
> You really need to bone a babe Ravi. You are stuck, you gotta break out of
> that mold. Do you have a standardised form you fill out when you post?
>
> 'You are { insult #1 }, { insult #2 }, { insult #3 }, etc., {
> categorisation remark #1 }, { categorisation remark #2 }, etc.
>
> You write and post some nice things from time to time. You need some
> social skills not related to reading Judy's and Barry's posts.
>

​Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie
like you? LOL..I am a natural charmer, I easily charm and entertain and
captivate an audience. It shows how alienated from reality and how
hopelessly deluded you are, you idiot.

Did you read Bob Price from last night, that I make insults sing and dance?

I spend lot of intelligence in my insults - whereas you SPEND ZERO
INTELLIGENCE AND ZERO CREATIVITY in your Universal, abstract constructs.

My insults are highly customized for each individual you ignorant fool -
show me where I reuse my insults - who else have I accused of using
Universal, abstract constructs other than you?

I only use generic insults when I'm still in the bait, provoke mode, still
collecting some information on an individual, building my dossier.

​


>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[raunchydog]

What is Real Reality? Interesting video with lousy music.
http://youtu.be/ukbFvxusMMI

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
wrote:
>
> Religious delusional beliefs - a set of beliefs, consisting of 
> religious terms, myths, symbolisms, archetypes, philosophy and/or 
> paradigm that form a person's narrative of his or her subjective,
> spiritual, mystical experiences which thereby  leaves the person
> invulnerable to reality.
> 
> So  an important premise of the definition is that each of us human
> beings  are created, vulnerable beings i.e are subject to be influenced
> by  reality (or life or existence or God or whatever way you would like
> to  objectify this energy which I have chosen to merely define it as a 
> mysterious, dynamic, organic entity)
> 
> Once  an agreement is reached on the basic premise, the definition of 
> religious delusional beliefs is very easy to be understood and why I 
> choose to label Amma under the grip of a religious, delusional belief, 
> hopelessly deceived and deluded.
> 
> Amma  - went through genuine mystical experiences but the villagers then
> enchanted by this woman, Amma in a mystical trance assumed Amma to be 
> possessed by the Divine Mother. In line with centuries old superstitious
> beliefs of theirs, their objectification of the ​mysterious,
> dynamic,  organic entity.
> 
> Here  Amma, a woman who was much abused by her family, crude and
> uneducated  fishergirl didn't know any better. Her father, who also
> enacted these  myths of divine possession - of Krishna and Devi must
> have played along  as well. Why not - this was part of their folklore,
> their beliefs.
> 
> Thus started the myth of the Divine Mother which would fool humanity for
> a long time.
> 
> Now  you can see this from her autobiography - a tale of magic, mystery 
> constructed out of the above narrative. I think the people around her 
> conveniently fit her child abuse, her other stories into an incredulous 
> narrative of 18th century woo-woo.
> 
> And  on the myth spread and now the PR team takes it one step further
> and  elevates her to the status of a humanitarian - medals, awards -
> even a  doctorate follows.
> 
> Westerners  burdened by their guilt for poor, for suffering, ridden by
> this  existential angst, eager to unburden themselves, numb themselves
> from  reality's puzzling, baffling, perplexing contradictions and
> complexities  were quite willing to buy into this mystical, magical tale
> who  a-la-Christ suffered for humanity's sins - this loving, embracing
> Saint.
> 
> It's a wonder that she has fooled the public and press for this long -
> the majority anyway.
> 
> So  will reality play along with Ravi Chivukula's theory? Is Ravi - a
> mere  instrument of reality in this unravelling of the myth of Amma?
> Amma - a  mystically entranced Amma, an innocent village girl turned
> charlatan?
> 
> Or  is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am 
> indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality -
> I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully 
> adapt to the new reality.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

> ​You trying to start a debate with reality Grandpa Xeno?
> 
> You are one of the most hopelessly deluded persons on FFL BTW. The man of
> the Universal, abstract constructs aka platitudes :-)

You really need to bone a babe Ravi. You are stuck, you gotta break out of that 
mold. Do you have a standardised form you fill out when you post?

'You are { insult #1 }, { insult #2 }, { insult #3 }, etc., { categorisation 
remark #1 }, { categorisation remark #2 }, etc.

You write and post some nice things from time to time. You need some social 
skills not related to reading Judy's and Barry's posts. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

Thanks for that clarification Rick. I understand your constraints, if at
all I was disappointed that my respect for you as someone who enables and
supports free speech faltered as you handed over the moderator ship to an
Amma fanatic. Anyway sanity's restored, Jim's back as the onwer/moderator -
as usual people accuse of me of bullying, verbal abuse, dominating but he
is able to see and appreciate the larger context of mine - thank god.


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:

> **
>
>
> *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Ravi Chivukula
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:42 AM
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the
> myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
>
> ** **
>
>   
>
> Well dear Rory - this is a post from Ammachi free speech zone Yahoo group
> - Amma's deluded, deceived devotees are keeping me busy for the last week
> and I'm having a lot of fun.
>
> Currently the archives are not public, because it so happened Amma's
> devotees indulged in personal attacks - character attacks, and the
> owner/moderator Jim was absent for that entire duration (last July/Aug to
> June this year). I was also banned after the interim moderator Rick handed
> over the moderatorship to some pro-Amma fanatic (don't ask me why). 
>
> I didn’t want to do it any more.
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about
physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of
vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your
emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility
and self-honesty are thy attributes.



On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend  wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm
> breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its
> need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing
> oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment
> than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who
> have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen
> in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality
> to which it is good to be vulnerable?
>
> Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
> grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
> very *relevant* to his point.
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius <
anartax...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ravi:
> 'Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am
> indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I
> will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully adapt to
> the new reality.'
>
> Ravi, you do not have to adapt to a new reality. You are the reality. Must
> be some cobwebs in there somewhere. Vulnerability comes with the territory.
>

​You trying to start a debate with reality Grandpa Xeno?

You are one of the most hopelessly deluded persons on FFL BTW. The man of
the Universal, abstract constructs aka platitudes :-)
​


>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

Ravi:
'Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am indeed 
deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I will absorb 
any new information that disproves me and gracefully adapt to the new reality.'

Ravi, you do not have to adapt to a new reality. You are the reality. Must be 
some cobwebs in there somewhere. Vulnerability comes with the territory.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[obbajeeba]

Great!  Sign me up!  Please don't tell anyone, okay?
Thanks.
Are you going to start a nose breathers group, you know, yoga, etc.?..
and maybe a sub group called mouth breathers?
Ie; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEVtq1jaQww
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEVtq1jaQww>

Put me in for all the above, please?

Keep it secret, because I would like to avoid the carbon tax, okay? 
(shh I belong to fart's anonymous too.)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Maybe I should start a BA group, Breathers Anonymous?
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:28 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth
of the invincible, infallible Goddess
>
>
>
> Â
> You, Share, over there, separate from me, yeah you... YOU are an
oxygen addict!
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
> > Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm
breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its
need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of
needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in
a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time.
People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need
as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level
what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable?
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:54 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of
the invincible, infallible Goddess
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I
am
> > indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to
reality - I will absorb any new information that disproves me and
gracefully
> > adapt to the new reality.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
>
> You, Share, over there, separate from me, yeah you... YOU are an
oxygen addict!
>

  [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8446/7936014242_3ff885d017_z.jpg]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8446/7936014242_3ff885d017_z.jpg




> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
> > Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm
breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its
need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of
needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in
a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time.
People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need
as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level
what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable?
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:54 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of
the invincible, infallible Goddess
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I
am
> > indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to
reality - I will absorb any new information that disproves me and
gracefully
> > adapt to the new reality.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Share Long]

Maybe I should start a BA group, Breathers Anonymous?





 From: Alex Stanley 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess
 


  
You, Share, over there, separate from me, yeah you... YOU are an oxygen addict!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. 
> Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen 
> in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is 
> THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some 
> yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long 
> time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even 
> on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be 
> vulnerable? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:54 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
> invincible, infallible Goddess
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am 
> indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I 
> will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully 
> adapt to the new reality.
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Alex Stanley]

You, Share, over there, separate from me, yeah you... YOU are an oxygen addict!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. 
> Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen 
> in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is 
> THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some 
> yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long 
> time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even 
> on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be 
> vulnerable? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:54 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
> invincible, infallible Goddess
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am 
> indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I 
> will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully 
> adapt to the new reality.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. 
> Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen 
> in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is 
> THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some 
> yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long 
> time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even 
> on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be 
> vulnerable?

Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be
grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so
very *relevant* to his point.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Ravi Chivukula
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:42 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the 
invincible, infallible Goddess

 

  

Well dear Rory - this is a post from Ammachi free speech zone Yahoo group - 
Amma's deluded, deceived devotees are keeping me busy for the last week and I'm 
having a lot of fun.

Currently the archives are not public, because it so happened Amma's devotees 
indulged in personal attacks - character attacks, and the owner/moderator Jim 
was absent for that entire duration (last July/Aug to June this year). I was 
also banned after the interim moderator Rick handed over the moderatorship to 
some pro-Amma fanatic (don't ask me why). 

I didn’t want to do it any more.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Well dear Rory - this is a post from Ammachi free speech zone Yahoo group -
> Amma's deluded, deceived devotees are keeping me busy for the last week and
> I'm having a lot of fun.

Ah, OK, Ravi; thanks for putting that in context. And I am glad you're having a 
lot of fun.
 
> Currently the archives are not public, because it so happened Amma's
> devotees indulged in personal attacks - character attacks, and the
> owner/moderator Jim was absent for that entire duration (last July/Aug to
> June this year). I was also banned after the interim moderator Rick handed
> over the moderatorship to some pro-Amma fanatic (don't ask me why). So he
> made the archives private while he could delete all attack posts, he
> invited me back as well. Unfortunately he ran into several Yahoo bugs where
> he lost the ability to delete posts and to make the archives public again -
> he is still working on it. And so I make sure I duplicate some of my posts
> here so it's publicly searchable.
> 
> Thank you for sharing your experiences.

My pleasure, Ravi. I only hope you're not as bored with them as I am :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[doctordumbass]

Thanks - Stay nice!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Hey Doc - thank you, yes indeed a natural fascination/attraction for other
> cultures, there's healthy and unhealthy and you are right I got to see lot
> of unhealthy aping of Hindu customs around Amma.
> 
> "Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually "special" just because you
> are Indian - lol"
> 
> No - dear God no. Because all my life, pre-2009 I have acted normal,
> extremely introverted except at work and focused on my career and family.
> Post-2009 it's a different story - it's either a loving, playful, sincere,
> supportive act with friends and totally outrageous, crazy, witty, silly -
> hell bent on mocking, confusing, perplexing people and pushing their
> buttons with my act.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:38 PM, doctordumbass@... <
> no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Ooops - "Conversely, met a lot of brown and black people..."
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Its a weird fucking thing - I have met a lot of white people in the US
> > who have some desire at some point, to be black or brown, "ethnic", or,
> > "exotic". Your descriptions of all the, "my precious little brown sister"
> > stuff, around Amma, reminds me of it. Conversely, met a lot of brown and
> > people that want to be whiter. I grew up as a minority white kid, but I
> > also tanned - lol, and spoke the languages of the countries where I lived.
> > > Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually "special" just because you
> > are Indian - lol?
> >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Religious delusional beliefs - a set of beliefs, consisting of
> > > > religious terms, myths, symbolisms, archetypes, philosophy and/or
> > > > paradigm that form a person's narrative of his or her subjective,
> > > > spiritual, mystical experiences which thereby leaves the person
> > > > invulnerable to reality.
> > > >
> > > > So an important premise of the definition is that each of us human
> > > > beings are created, vulnerable beings i.e are subject to be influenced
> > > > by reality (or life or existence or God or whatever way you would like
> > > > to objectify this energy which I have chosen to merely define it as a
> > > > mysterious, dynamic, organic entity)
> > > >
> > > > Once an agreement is reached on the basic premise, the definition of
> > > > religious delusional beliefs is very easy to be understood and why I
> > > > choose to label Amma under the grip of a religious, delusional belief,
> > > > hopelessly deceived and deluded.
> > > >
> > > > Amma - went through genuine mystical experiences but the villagers then
> > > > enchanted by this woman, Amma in a mystical trance assumed Amma to be
> > > > possessed by the Divine Mother. In line with centuries old
> > superstitious
> > > > beliefs of theirs, their objectification of the ​mysterious,
> > > > dynamic, organic entity.
> > > >
> > > > Here Amma, a woman who was much abused by her family, crude and
> > > > uneducated fishergirl didn't know any better. Her father, who also
> > > > enacted these myths of divine possession - of Krishna and Devi must
> > > > have played along as well. Why not - this was part of their folklore,
> > > > their beliefs.
> > > >
> > > > Thus started the myth of the Divine Mother which would fool humanity
> > for
> > > > a long time.
> > > >
> > > > Now you can see this from her autobiography - a tale of magic, mystery
> > > > constructed out of the above narrative. I think the people around her
> > > > conveniently fit her child abuse, her other stories into an
> > incredulous
> > > > narrative of 18th century woo-woo.
> > > >
> > > > And on the myth spread and now the PR team takes it one step further
> > > > and elevates her to the status of a humanitarian - medals, awards -
> > > > even a doctorate follows.
> > > >
> > > > Westerners burdened by their guilt for poor, for suffering, ridden by
> > > > this existential angst, eager to unburden themselves, numb themselves
> > > > from reality's puzzling, baffling, perplexing contradictions and
> > > > complexities were quite willing to buy into this mystical, magical tale
> > > > who a-la-Christ suffered for humanity's sins - this loving, embracing
> > > > Saint.
> > > >
> > > > It's a wonder that she has fooled the public and press for this long -
> > > > the majority anyway.
> > > >
> > > > So will reality play along with Ravi Chivukula's theory? Is Ravi - a
> > > > mere instrument of reality in this unravelling of the myth of Amma?
> > > > Amma - a mystically entranced Amma, an innocent village girl turned
> > > > charlatan?
> > > >
> > > > Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am
> > > > indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality
> > -
> > > > I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully
> > > > adap

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

Hey Doc - thank you, yes indeed a natural fascination/attraction for other
cultures, there's healthy and unhealthy and you are right I got to see lot
of unhealthy aping of Hindu customs around Amma.

"Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually "special" just because you
are Indian - lol"

No - dear God no. Because all my life, pre-2009 I have acted normal,
extremely introverted except at work and focused on my career and family.
Post-2009 it's a different story - it's either a loving, playful, sincere,
supportive act with friends and totally outrageous, crazy, witty, silly -
hell bent on mocking, confusing, perplexing people and pushing their
buttons with my act.


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:38 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com <
no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ooops - "Conversely, met a lot of brown and black people..."
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... 
> wrote:
> >
> > Its a weird fucking thing - I have met a lot of white people in the US
> who have some desire at some point, to be black or brown, "ethnic", or,
> "exotic". Your descriptions of all the, "my precious little brown sister"
> stuff, around Amma, reminds me of it. Conversely, met a lot of brown and
> people that want to be whiter. I grew up as a minority white kid, but I
> also tanned - lol, and spoke the languages of the countries where I lived.
> > Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually "special" just because you
> are Indian - lol?
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Religious delusional beliefs - a set of beliefs, consisting of
> > > religious terms, myths, symbolisms, archetypes, philosophy and/or
> > > paradigm that form a person's narrative of his or her subjective,
> > > spiritual, mystical experiences which thereby leaves the person
> > > invulnerable to reality.
> > >
> > > So an important premise of the definition is that each of us human
> > > beings are created, vulnerable beings i.e are subject to be influenced
> > > by reality (or life or existence or God or whatever way you would like
> > > to objectify this energy which I have chosen to merely define it as a
> > > mysterious, dynamic, organic entity)
> > >
> > > Once an agreement is reached on the basic premise, the definition of
> > > religious delusional beliefs is very easy to be understood and why I
> > > choose to label Amma under the grip of a religious, delusional belief,
> > > hopelessly deceived and deluded.
> > >
> > > Amma - went through genuine mystical experiences but the villagers then
> > > enchanted by this woman, Amma in a mystical trance assumed Amma to be
> > > possessed by the Divine Mother. In line with centuries old
> superstitious
> > > beliefs of theirs, their objectification of the ​mysterious,
> > > dynamic, organic entity.
> > >
> > > Here Amma, a woman who was much abused by her family, crude and
> > > uneducated fishergirl didn't know any better. Her father, who also
> > > enacted these myths of divine possession - of Krishna and Devi must
> > > have played along as well. Why not - this was part of their folklore,
> > > their beliefs.
> > >
> > > Thus started the myth of the Divine Mother which would fool humanity
> for
> > > a long time.
> > >
> > > Now you can see this from her autobiography - a tale of magic, mystery
> > > constructed out of the above narrative. I think the people around her
> > > conveniently fit her child abuse, her other stories into an
> incredulous
> > > narrative of 18th century woo-woo.
> > >
> > > And on the myth spread and now the PR team takes it one step further
> > > and elevates her to the status of a humanitarian - medals, awards -
> > > even a doctorate follows.
> > >
> > > Westerners burdened by their guilt for poor, for suffering, ridden by
> > > this existential angst, eager to unburden themselves, numb themselves
> > > from reality's puzzling, baffling, perplexing contradictions and
> > > complexities were quite willing to buy into this mystical, magical tale
> > > who a-la-Christ suffered for humanity's sins - this loving, embracing
> > > Saint.
> > >
> > > It's a wonder that she has fooled the public and press for this long -
> > > the majority anyway.
> > >
> > > So will reality play along with Ravi Chivukula's theory? Is Ravi - a
> > > mere instrument of reality in this unravelling of the myth of Amma?
> > > Amma - a mystically entranced Amma, an innocent village girl turned
> > > charlatan?
> > >
> > > Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am
> > > indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality
> -
> > > I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully
> > > adapt to the new reality.
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[Ravi Chivukula]

Well dear Rory - this is a post from Ammachi free speech zone Yahoo group -
Amma's deluded, deceived devotees are keeping me busy for the last week and
I'm having a lot of fun.

Currently the archives are not public, because it so happened Amma's
devotees indulged in personal attacks - character attacks, and the
owner/moderator Jim was absent for that entire duration (last July/Aug to
June this year). I was also banned after the interim moderator Rick handed
over the moderatorship to some pro-Amma fanatic (don't ask me why). So he
made the archives private while he could delete all attack posts, he
invited me back as well. Unfortunately he ran into several Yahoo bugs where
he lost the ability to delete posts and to make the archives public again -
he is still working on it. And so I make sure I duplicate some of my posts
here so it's publicly searchable.

Thank you for sharing your experiences.



On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:35 PM, RoryGoff  wrote:

> **
>
>
> OK, sounds good, Ravi; it is good to have a mission statement.
>
> If you are asking me, I have no idea of who Amma really is, any more than
> I do of who anyone really is. I have never been particularly wowed by Amma,
> personally, but that may just be me, a question of "chemistry" perhaps.
> Other people whom I do respect a great deal, do respect Amma a great deal,
> and I appreciate the magnitude of the devotion they bring to the table. My
> feelings for Maharishi have gone through the entire gamut over the past 40
> years, and I find now I can hold no one view paramount, to the exclusion of
> all the rest.
>
> Personally, I enjoy devotion, at times, and in one sense it probably
> doesn't matter too much what the object of one's devotion "really" is. If
> one can feel devotion for and see the divine in a rock, why not in a
> person, flawed though they most certainly are from other points of view? On
> the other hand, it appears to me that we do tend to assume the qualities of
> our object of devotion, and cultic abuse may subconsciously be carried down
> through the generations. Or maybe we are just drawn to that particular cult
> because it matches our own abuse history and patterns. Or both. Of course,
> it is good to use our intellect in conjunction (and I do mean conjunction)
> with our heart.
>
> I do think we are probably all deceived and deluded to some extent. I know
> I certainly am, at any rate. All we can do is try to take the feedback into
> account, and learn, and grow.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Religious delusional beliefs - a set of beliefs, consisting of
> > religious terms, myths, symbolisms, archetypes, philosophy and/or
> > paradigm that form a person's narrative of his or her subjective,
> > spiritual, mystical experiences which thereby leaves the person
> > invulnerable to reality.
> >
> > So an important premise of the definition is that each of us human
> > beings are created, vulnerable beings i.e are subject to be influenced
> > by reality (or life or existence or God or whatever way you would like
> > to objectify this energy which I have chosen to merely define it as a
> > mysterious, dynamic, organic entity)
> >
> > Once an agreement is reached on the basic premise, the definition of
> > religious delusional beliefs is very easy to be understood and why I
> > choose to label Amma under the grip of a religious, delusional belief,
> > hopelessly deceived and deluded.
> >
> > Amma - went through genuine mystical experiences but the villagers then
> > enchanted by this woman, Amma in a mystical trance assumed Amma to be
> > possessed by the Divine Mother. In line with centuries old superstitious
> > beliefs of theirs, their objectification of the ​mysterious,
> > dynamic, organic entity.
> >
> > Here Amma, a woman who was much abused by her family, crude and
> > uneducated fishergirl didn't know any better. Her father, who also
> > enacted these myths of divine possession - of Krishna and Devi must
> > have played along as well. Why not - this was part of their folklore,
> > their beliefs.
> >
> > Thus started the myth of the Divine Mother which would fool humanity for
> > a long time.
> >
> > Now you can see this from her autobiography - a tale of magic, mystery
> > constructed out of the above narrative. I think the people around her
> > conveniently fit her child abuse, her other stories into an incredulous
> > narrative of 18th century woo-woo.
> >
> > And on the myth spread and now the PR team takes it one step further
> > and elevates her to the status of a humanitarian - medals, awards -
> > even a doctorate follows.
> >
> > Westerners burdened by their guilt for poor, for suffering, ridden by
> > this existential angst, eager to unburden themselves, numb themselves
> > from reality's puzzling, baffling, perplexing contradictions and
> > complexities were quite willing to buy into this mystical, magical tale
> > who a-la-Christ suffered for humanity's sins - this l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[doctordumbass]

Ooops - "Conversely, met a lot of brown and black people..."

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Its a weird fucking thing - I have met a lot of white people in the US who 
> have some desire at some point, to be black or brown, "ethnic", or, "exotic". 
> Your descriptions of all the, "my precious little brown sister" stuff, around 
> Amma, reminds me of it. Conversely, met a lot of brown and people that want 
> to be whiter. I grew up as a minority white kid, but I also tanned - lol, and 
> spoke the languages of the countries where I lived.
> Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually "special" just because you are 
> Indian - lol?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Religious delusional beliefs - a set of beliefs, consisting of 
> > religious terms, myths, symbolisms, archetypes, philosophy and/or 
> > paradigm that form a person's narrative of his or her subjective,
> > spiritual, mystical experiences which thereby  leaves the person
> > invulnerable to reality.
> > 
> > So  an important premise of the definition is that each of us human
> > beings  are created, vulnerable beings i.e are subject to be influenced
> > by  reality (or life or existence or God or whatever way you would like
> > to  objectify this energy which I have chosen to merely define it as a 
> > mysterious, dynamic, organic entity)
> > 
> > Once  an agreement is reached on the basic premise, the definition of 
> > religious delusional beliefs is very easy to be understood and why I 
> > choose to label Amma under the grip of a religious, delusional belief, 
> > hopelessly deceived and deluded.
> > 
> > Amma  - went through genuine mystical experiences but the villagers then
> > enchanted by this woman, Amma in a mystical trance assumed Amma to be 
> > possessed by the Divine Mother. In line with centuries old superstitious
> > beliefs of theirs, their objectification of the ​mysterious,
> > dynamic,  organic entity.
> > 
> > Here  Amma, a woman who was much abused by her family, crude and
> > uneducated  fishergirl didn't know any better. Her father, who also
> > enacted these  myths of divine possession - of Krishna and Devi must
> > have played along  as well. Why not - this was part of their folklore,
> > their beliefs.
> > 
> > Thus started the myth of the Divine Mother which would fool humanity for
> > a long time.
> > 
> > Now  you can see this from her autobiography - a tale of magic, mystery 
> > constructed out of the above narrative. I think the people around her 
> > conveniently fit her child abuse, her other stories into an incredulous 
> > narrative of 18th century woo-woo.
> > 
> > And  on the myth spread and now the PR team takes it one step further
> > and  elevates her to the status of a humanitarian - medals, awards -
> > even a  doctorate follows.
> > 
> > Westerners  burdened by their guilt for poor, for suffering, ridden by
> > this  existential angst, eager to unburden themselves, numb themselves
> > from  reality's puzzling, baffling, perplexing contradictions and
> > complexities  were quite willing to buy into this mystical, magical tale
> > who  a-la-Christ suffered for humanity's sins - this loving, embracing
> > Saint.
> > 
> > It's a wonder that she has fooled the public and press for this long -
> > the majority anyway.
> > 
> > So  will reality play along with Ravi Chivukula's theory? Is Ravi - a
> > mere  instrument of reality in this unravelling of the myth of Amma?
> > Amma - a  mystically entranced Amma, an innocent village girl turned
> > charlatan?
> > 
> > Or  is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am 
> > indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality -
> > I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully 
> > adapt to the new reality.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[doctordumbass]

Its a weird fucking thing - I have met a lot of white people in the US who have 
some desire at some point, to be black or brown, "ethnic", or, "exotic". Your 
descriptions of all the, "my precious little brown sister" stuff, around Amma, 
reminds me of it. Conversely, met a lot of brown and people that want to be 
whiter. I grew up as a minority white kid, but I also tanned - lol, and spoke 
the languages of the countries where I lived.
Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually "special" just because you are 
Indian - lol?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
wrote:
>
> Religious delusional beliefs - a set of beliefs, consisting of 
> religious terms, myths, symbolisms, archetypes, philosophy and/or 
> paradigm that form a person's narrative of his or her subjective,
> spiritual, mystical experiences which thereby  leaves the person
> invulnerable to reality.
> 
> So  an important premise of the definition is that each of us human
> beings  are created, vulnerable beings i.e are subject to be influenced
> by  reality (or life or existence or God or whatever way you would like
> to  objectify this energy which I have chosen to merely define it as a 
> mysterious, dynamic, organic entity)
> 
> Once  an agreement is reached on the basic premise, the definition of 
> religious delusional beliefs is very easy to be understood and why I 
> choose to label Amma under the grip of a religious, delusional belief, 
> hopelessly deceived and deluded.
> 
> Amma  - went through genuine mystical experiences but the villagers then
> enchanted by this woman, Amma in a mystical trance assumed Amma to be 
> possessed by the Divine Mother. In line with centuries old superstitious
> beliefs of theirs, their objectification of the ​mysterious,
> dynamic,  organic entity.
> 
> Here  Amma, a woman who was much abused by her family, crude and
> uneducated  fishergirl didn't know any better. Her father, who also
> enacted these  myths of divine possession - of Krishna and Devi must
> have played along  as well. Why not - this was part of their folklore,
> their beliefs.
> 
> Thus started the myth of the Divine Mother which would fool humanity for
> a long time.
> 
> Now  you can see this from her autobiography - a tale of magic, mystery 
> constructed out of the above narrative. I think the people around her 
> conveniently fit her child abuse, her other stories into an incredulous 
> narrative of 18th century woo-woo.
> 
> And  on the myth spread and now the PR team takes it one step further
> and  elevates her to the status of a humanitarian - medals, awards -
> even a  doctorate follows.
> 
> Westerners  burdened by their guilt for poor, for suffering, ridden by
> this  existential angst, eager to unburden themselves, numb themselves
> from  reality's puzzling, baffling, perplexing contradictions and
> complexities  were quite willing to buy into this mystical, magical tale
> who  a-la-Christ suffered for humanity's sins - this loving, embracing
> Saint.
> 
> It's a wonder that she has fooled the public and press for this long -
> the majority anyway.
> 
> So  will reality play along with Ravi Chivukula's theory? Is Ravi - a
> mere  instrument of reality in this unravelling of the myth of Amma?
> Amma - a  mystically entranced Amma, an innocent village girl turned
> charlatan?
> 
> Or  is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am 
> indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality -
> I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully 
> adapt to the new reality.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs & the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess

[RoryGoff]

OK, sounds good, Ravi; it is good to have a mission statement. 

If you are asking me, I have no idea of who Amma really is, any more than I do 
of who anyone really is. I have never been particularly wowed by Amma, 
personally, but that may just be me, a question of "chemistry" perhaps. Other 
people whom I do respect a great deal, do respect Amma a great deal, and I 
appreciate the magnitude of the devotion they bring to the table. My feelings 
for Maharishi have gone through the entire gamut over the past 40 years, and I 
find now I can hold no one view paramount, to the exclusion of all the rest. 

Personally, I enjoy devotion, at times, and in one sense it probably doesn't 
matter too much what the object of one's devotion "really" is. If one can feel 
devotion for and see the divine in a rock, why not in a person, flawed though 
they most certainly are from other points of view? On the other hand, it 
appears to me that we do tend to assume the qualities of our object of 
devotion, and cultic abuse may subconsciously be carried down through the 
generations. Or maybe we are just drawn to that particular cult because it 
matches our own abuse history and patterns. Or both. Of course, it is good to 
use our intellect in conjunction (and I do mean conjunction) with our heart.

I do think we are probably all deceived and deluded to some extent. I know I 
certainly am, at any rate. All we can do is try to take the feedback into 
account, and learn, and grow.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
wrote:
>
> Religious delusional beliefs - a set of beliefs, consisting of 
> religious terms, myths, symbolisms, archetypes, philosophy and/or 
> paradigm that form a person's narrative of his or her subjective,
> spiritual, mystical experiences which thereby  leaves the person
> invulnerable to reality.
> 
> So  an important premise of the definition is that each of us human
> beings  are created, vulnerable beings i.e are subject to be influenced
> by  reality (or life or existence or God or whatever way you would like
> to  objectify this energy which I have chosen to merely define it as a 
> mysterious, dynamic, organic entity)
> 
> Once  an agreement is reached on the basic premise, the definition of 
> religious delusional beliefs is very easy to be understood and why I 
> choose to label Amma under the grip of a religious, delusional belief, 
> hopelessly deceived and deluded.
> 
> Amma  - went through genuine mystical experiences but the villagers then
> enchanted by this woman, Amma in a mystical trance assumed Amma to be 
> possessed by the Divine Mother. In line with centuries old superstitious
> beliefs of theirs, their objectification of the ​mysterious,
> dynamic,  organic entity.
> 
> Here  Amma, a woman who was much abused by her family, crude and
> uneducated  fishergirl didn't know any better. Her father, who also
> enacted these  myths of divine possession - of Krishna and Devi must
> have played along  as well. Why not - this was part of their folklore,
> their beliefs.
> 
> Thus started the myth of the Divine Mother which would fool humanity for
> a long time.
> 
> Now  you can see this from her autobiography - a tale of magic, mystery 
> constructed out of the above narrative. I think the people around her 
> conveniently fit her child abuse, her other stories into an incredulous 
> narrative of 18th century woo-woo.
> 
> And  on the myth spread and now the PR team takes it one step further
> and  elevates her to the status of a humanitarian - medals, awards -
> even a  doctorate follows.
> 
> Westerners  burdened by their guilt for poor, for suffering, ridden by
> this  existential angst, eager to unburden themselves, numb themselves
> from  reality's puzzling, baffling, perplexing contradictions and
> complexities  were quite willing to buy into this mystical, magical tale
> who  a-la-Christ suffered for humanity's sins - this loving, embracing
> Saint.
> 
> It's a wonder that she has fooled the public and press for this long -
> the majority anyway.
> 
> So  will reality play along with Ravi Chivukula's theory? Is Ravi - a
> mere  instrument of reality in this unravelling of the myth of Amma?
> Amma - a  mystically entranced Amma, an innocent village girl turned
> charlatan?
> 
> Or  is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am 
> indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality -
> I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully 
> adapt to the new reality.
>