[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously though - if he says that all that matters is a building of the right type, then 'enlightenment' has a relative cause and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The whole stress explaination isn't what we think it is. Say more? What is it, then? It's an intellectual justification for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The whole stress explaination isn't what we think it is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is simply that in organizations where the students are making regular progress in their spiritual development, and such progress is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is simply that in organizations where the students are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
If you have to ask how people know these things, it really doesn't speak very well of TM, does it? Scientific research that this isn't moodmaking? Some people haven't been trained to distrust their own experience. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have to ask how people know these things, it really doesn't speak very well of TM, does it? Scientific research that this isn't moodmaking? Some people haven't been trained to distrust their own

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have to ask how people know these things, it really doesn't speak very well of TM, does it? Scientific research that this isn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have to ask how people know these things, it really

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Improved clarity of mind on a daily basis. Improved clarity of meditation on a daily basis, with longer and longer periods of samadhi (and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Improved clarity of mind on a daily basis. Improved clarity of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread Llundrub
The ocean can be in the drop but does the drop explain the nature of the ocean?No difference.The drop doesn't explain the nature of the ocean as vast, deep, mysterious, the source of life, as destructive and chaotic, but also warm and compelling. It doesn't explain the varieties of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread Llundrub
- Original Message - From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 1:08 AM My point is simply that in organizations where thestudents are making regular progress in their spiritualdevelopment, and such progress is easily discernible,no such

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conceivably someone could become enlightened by eating MAK. That's really,really rubbish. That's what Mother Meera told me one day: You don't get enlightened by eating those pills.I answered that they are not really claiming

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conceivably someone could become enlightened by eating MAK. That's really,really rubbish. That's what Mother Meera told me one day: You don't get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 5, 2005, at 11:33 PM, Rory Goff wrote: The ocean can be in the drop but does the drop explain the nature of the ocean? No difference. A drop generally makes bad surfing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread Llundrub
- Original Message - From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 5:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: - Origin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread Peter
--- t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conceivably someone could become enlightened by eating MAK. That's really,really rubbish. That's what Mother Meera told me one day: You don't get enlightened by eating those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 8/6/05 1:46 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 5, 2005, at 11:33 PM, Rory Goff wrote: The ocean can be in the drop but does the drop explain the nature of the ocean? No difference. A drop generally makes bad surfing. Depends how big you are at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ocean can be in the drop but does the drop explain the nature of the ocean? No difference. The drop doesn't explain the nature of the ocean as vast, deep, mysterious, the source of life, as destructive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One simply realizes that within everything is emptiness, clarity, and luminosity. Nothing more and nothing less. Oh OK, makes sense. Thanks! reminds me of an experience doing tm on wednesday where I was aware of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conceivably someone could become enlightened by eating MAK. That's really,really rubbish. That's what Mother Meera told me one day: You don't get

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conceivably someone could become enlightened by eating MAK.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread Llundrub
Everything in existance is made up of the five elements. In their most subtle forms they are colors of awareness.cool! Thanks for that too. What are the colors and their relative significance?-It's not so much relative significance. The colors are the formless or empty aspect of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's already said that he missed this point for a very long time (need for Vedic architecture). when did he say that? In what of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's already said that he missed this point for a very long time

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- Well, maybe it's just that Maharishi seems to like to put all of the emphasis on one thing at a time. In the beginning, it was just do TM; then it was take SCI, and be a teacher; then it was do the siddhis, then it was do the siddhis in the dome, then it was Ayurveda, and Jyotish, and now

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Well, maybe it's just that Maharishi seems to like to put all of the emphasis on one thing at a time. I'd phrase it differently. He likes to focus his students' attention on one thing at a time. He uses the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is exactly what I mean. The most important is what vibrations you fill your homes with - not the buildings. The buildings is only frames. While I won't defend vastu, your attitude is wrong as well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Ingegerd
MMY makes hope. 3-4 years ago an old TM-Teacher called me, she was listening to the Satellite Channel with News from MMY organisations every day. And one day it was told that a day in June that Year (I cannot remember the exact day) Heaven of Earth should rise. Pretty much like what has been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY makes hope. I would say rather that Maharishi makes *up* hope, and those who are desperate for hope buy it. Literally. 3-4 years ago an old TM-Teacher called me, she was listening to the Satellite Channel with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Robert Gimbel
---Well, it is good to doubt everything; that way you don't have to put your faith in anything; that's ok, I guess. Many people feel that way about everything these days, not just Maharishi, but every level of society, religion, government, courts, every level, is basically full of crap, right?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Well, it is good to doubt everything; that way you don't have to put your faith in anything; that's ok, I guess. Many people feel that way about everything these days, not just Maharishi, but every level of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The longer you preserve your faith in Maharishi and hope that maybe, maybe,things will work out as predicted *this time*, the longer you can keep from having to deal with that other possibility -- that your faith has been misplaced, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I won't defend vastu, your attitude is wrong as well. Otherwise, we should ignore any and all physical issues like mold and mildew,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The longer you preserve your faith in Maharishi and hope that maybe, maybe,things will work out as predicted *this time*, the longer you can keep from having to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's already said that he missed this point for a very long time

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a study for you -- if the founder of a popular technique of meditation (who promoted it for decades by saying that it was the fastest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Well, it is good to doubt everything; that way you don't have to put your faith in anything; that's ok, I guess. Clinging to faith no matter what and rejecting faith no matter what are both ways to avoid having to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a study for you -- if the founder of a popular

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Well, it is good to doubt everything; that way you don't have to put your faith in anything; that's ok, I guess. Clinging to faith

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Well, it is good to doubt everything; that way you don't have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think I was being given the role of the potato dumpling in Unc's formulation, actually. Yes, but since we are one and all :-) ...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY makes hope. 3-4 years ago an old TM-Teacher called me, she was listening to the Satellite Channel with News from MMY organisations every day. And one day it was told that a day in June that Year (I cannot remember

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I was being given the role of the potato dumpling in Unc's formulation, actually. But if I don't have to be a *potato* dumpling, it could be shiksa-kreplach-kishkas. (I can't even say that *once*.) Mmm.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's already said that he missed this point for a very long time

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Ingegerd
I have been one of those true believers who really trusted every word that MMY said, because I thought that he always speak the truth, was honest and lived a life according to what he teach. My fault, because I forgot that he is a Human Being, not the New Messiah. I could write a book about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Well, maybe it's just that Maharishi seems to like to put all of the emphasis on one thing at a time. In the beginning, it was just do TM; then it was take SCI, and be a teacher; then it was do the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I won't defend vastu, your attitude is wrong as well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I was being given the role of the potato dumpling in Unc's formulation, actually. But if I don't have to be a *potato*

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] On my one visit to Paris many years ago, I went with some friends to the Jewish quarter and was astonished to hear the residents speaking French with the very same accent and characteristic intonation. I didn't realize it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] On my one visit to Paris many years ago, I went with some friends to the Jewish quarter and was astonished to hear the residents speaking French

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Vaj
On Aug 5, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Jeff Fischer wrote: Speaks to me of the importance of values and integrity. Or as a friend who is an Orthodox Kabbalist pointed out, in order for a Jewish mystic to attain Union with God, one has to maintain strict purity and observance of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Llundrub
If you have already inaugurated the Age of Enlightenment (30 years ago), Heaven on Earth (20 years ago), and neither of these are exactly what one would expect, and now Sat Yuga is inaugurated with no noticeable changes (as yet anyway), what is left to inaugurate.??. Has MMY given any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have already inaugurated the Age of Enlightenment (30 years ago), Heaven on Earth (20 years ago), and neither of these are exactly what one would expect, and now Sat Yuga is inaugurated with no noticeable

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Llundrub
I am curious- How is unfoldment with Dzogchen non-dual? Not a trick question, I am interested in how the process is explained to be non-dual, i'e. no perceived movement from 'here' to 'there' during unfoldment.One simply realizes that within everything is emptiness, clarity, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Well, maybe it's just that Maharishi seems to like to put all of the emphasis on one thing at a time. I'd phrase it differently.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Well, it is good to doubt everything; that way you don't have to put your faith in anything; that's ok, I guess. Clinging to faith no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Well, maybe it's just that Maharishi seems to like to put all of the emphasis on one thing at a time. In the beginning, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Well, maybe it's just that Maharishi seems to like to put

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The whole stress explaination isn't what we think it is. Say more? What is it, then? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The whole stress explaination isn't what we think it is. Say more? What is it, then? Uh-OH! stuck my foot in it didn't I ;-) A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The whole stress explaination isn't what we think it is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious- How is unfoldment with Dzogchen non-dual? Not a trick question, I am interested in how the process is explained to be non- dual, i'e. no perceived movement from 'here' to 'there' during unfoldment.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a good expalination of maya but it can only make sense at a point of recognition, before that a finite amount of stress that is released makes sense. But I don't think that's how it really is. I agree --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A dualistic explaination to satisfy a mind stuck in duality. Let me think about it some. Something is only stressful when it overshadows being. How can the ocean be compressed into a drop... it's a circular argument it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a good expalination of maya but it can only make sense at a point of recognition, before that a finite amount of stress that is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The longer you preserve your faith in Maharishi and hope that maybe, maybe,things will work out as predicted *this time*, the longer you can keep from having to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrfishey2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A dualistic explaination to satisfy a mind stuck in duality. Let me think about it some. Something is only stressful when it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Llundrub
One simply realizes that within everything is emptiness, clarity, and luminosity. Nothing more and nothing less.Oh OK, makes sense. Thanks! reminds me of an experience doing tm on wednesday where I was aware of these intense yellows and golds coming into focus, suddenly resolving

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Llundrub
That's a good expalination of maya but it can only make sense at a point of recognition, before that a finite amount of stress that is released makes sense. But I don't think that's how it really is. I agree -- there is not really "Being" and "stress," for how could there be anything

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Llundrub
"A dualistic explaination to satisfy a mind stuck in duality. Let me think about it some. Something is only stressful when it overshadows being. How can the ocean be compressed into a drop... it's a circular argument it doesn't compute ..." JohnY The ocean can be in the drop but does

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A dualistic explaination to satisfy a mind stuck in duality. Let me think about it some. Something is only stressful when it overshadows being. How can the ocean be compressed into a drop... it's a circular

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A dualistic explaination to satisfy a mind stuck in duality. Let me think about it some. Something is only stressful when it overshadows being. How can the ocean be compressed into a drop... it's a circular argument

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A dualistic explaination to satisfy a mind stuck in duality. Let me think about it some. Something is only stressful when it overshadows being. How can the ocean be compressed into a drop... it's a circular

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Global Country of World Peace - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - _ , this week launched a program for the reconstruction of the entire world. Everywhere, we find that people are not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread feste37
The subject heading chosen by this poster, Donate Money for Peace Palaces is interesting, because in the press release there is not a single request for donations. Not one. I guess people see and read what they want to read. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The subject heading chosen by this poster, Donate Money for Peace Palaces is interesting, because in the press release there is not a single request for donations. Not one. I guess people see and read what they want to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The subject heading chosen by this poster, Donate Money for Peace Palaces is interesting, because in the press release there is not a single

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So although you are both correct that the specific phrase donate money for peace palaces is not in the press release, that is its message. The TMO is not going to put a penny into these buildings. It's going to get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Llundrub
Does anyone actually read this and realize how it sounds?JohnY It sounds alot like the Book of David and all other old and new covenential prophecies which foretell doom and gloom and the restructuring of life in accordance with God's will as shewn by his Chosen One the Lord of Zion, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Llundrub
- Original Message - From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces The subject heading chosen by this poster, "Donate Money for Peace Palaces" is interestin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Llundrub
In Scientology we have something called an "obnosis" (observing the obvious) drill. When you look at something, you have to tell the other person what you see. "I see her left ear" will be flunked when what is really "seen" is an ear lobe due to the fact that the "rest of the ear" is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's all Maya, my Friend. Then what's the problem w/ wasps and rats? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Ingegerd
Well, I read it - and once more I draw a comparison between Guru Devs teaching and his clerks teaching. And once more I feel more and more close to the Veda and a more and more distance to MMY. These press releases are just bizarre. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread jyouells2000
Yup that's how it has been working for some time. Ayurvedic Centers/hotels, Age of E Centers, World Peace Assembly Buildings, and the bought land to build such. Veda Land in FL - just or in the process of being sold, old hotels, skyscrappers in NYC, land for highways in TX. The only ones that have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Llundrub
It's all Maya, my Friend. Then what's the problem w/ wasps and rats?The problem is me. I want to feel good about myself and not have to kill things. I don't care to be the judge, jury and executioner. Call me a pussy, but I just don't care to be the judge of whether something is right

Fw: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Llundrub
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces Well, I read it - and once more I draw a comparison between Guru Devs teaching and his clerks teaching. And once more I feel more and more close to the Veda and a more and more distance

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Global Country of World Peace - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - _ , this week launched a program for

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