[FairfieldLife] Re: Defending the Status Quo

2005-08-23 Thread Cliff
Gee, Rick. Why don't you tell us what you REALLY think? If there were some connection I could perceive between Movement plans and pronouncements and the reality I see around me (like no pundits, no big buildings, nothing but economically disastrous business ventures that I know of, etc.), it migh

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bevan and John Confronting Maharishi?'

2005-08-23 Thread Cliff
If M is "really tired of all the nonsense" I wish he would stop contributing to it. I think events and press releases show quite the opposite, in fact - M clearly contributes to the nonsense and even appears to delight in doing so. I used to think that it was the "unfathomability of the fully

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong

2005-08-23 Thread Cliff
Android, perhaps? I remember Data smiling all the time on Star Trek - Next Generation episodes, even when smiting Klingons or Borg or whoever was being smitten at the time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong

2005-08-26 Thread Cliff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Not just you. I have exactly the same react

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prediction: the next MMY pronouncement

2005-08-26 Thread Cliff
Valued by whom? Assets, unless they are cash or readily tradeable stocks or bonds, are subject to remarkably wide ranges of valuation. Something which an auditor might claim to be worth $187 million might, if push came to shove, be worth only $5 million. I've seen Movement valuations in the past

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice

2005-08-29 Thread Cliff
I think it's a simpler answer - it depends on how you transliterate the sanskrit, and most scholars come out with yagna (with a little squiggle over the n, which give it a Spanish-like nya sound). Tamp down the "n" a bit, and you end up with yagya. Sanskrti speakers that I've heard say the word d

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sacrificial/Alter policy for TM teachers and TM-Sidhi practioners

2005-08-29 Thread Cliff
You forgot the most important point: 6) Have large breasts. Where's purity of the teaching when you really need it? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NEW SACRIFICE/ALTER POLICY FOR ALL TM TEACHERS AND TM-SIDHI > PRACTIONERS FROM NOW ON > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Llundrub dead or alive?

2005-08-29 Thread Cliff
Yes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sacrificial/Alter policy for TM teachers and TM-Sidhi practioners

2005-08-29 Thread Cliff
n FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > You forgot the most important point: > > > > 6) Have large breasts. > > > > &g

[FairfieldLife] Very cool pix

2005-08-30 Thread Cliff
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America

2005-08-31 Thread Cliff
You sound like you'd probably take great delight from seeing anyone suffer who doesn't firmly hold your beliefs. Gosh - sounds an awful like Osama bin Laden, or like the Spanish Inquisitors. Don't you see where you're going? You set yourself up as judge, jury and executioner, and... Damn... Wha

[FairfieldLife] Gov't Debt (was Re: The destruction of NO)

2005-08-31 Thread Cliff
Well stated. I was surprised to see someone on this forum jump in with a real-world explanation instead of the knee-jerk reaction TurquoiseB had to offer. The bottom line - no one would be loaning the US $2B/day (which comes out to much higher than the projected deficit for this fiscal year, so I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of A...

2005-08-31 Thread Cliff
I assume that's a nasty sense of humor playing, MD. Rick - yes, rescuers are chopping through wherever they hear people, or people are waving things through cracks or holes or whatever so they know someone's there. But there's no way that all roofs can be cut into without vastly more resources th

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of american culture as we know it. This is only the beginning.

2005-09-01 Thread Cliff
Thanks, Mark. Rationality is often hard-won in an environment full of people ready to leap back into superstition and "divine wrath" at the slightest hint of an excuse. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "l

[FairfieldLife] Re: SV Hypothesis

2005-09-06 Thread Cliff
"Vedic reasoning" is an oxymoron, just like "silent cry" or "Dodge Ram". There is no such thing. It's a system of belief, pure and simple. I'll buy Sparaig's cultural reason - the Aryan invaders came from the north, and I bet the Dravidian's were pissed off enough at being slaughtered and having

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundit housing for Katrina refugees?

2005-09-06 Thread Cliff
Yes, I can just see the thousands of Governors "who aren't in proper Vastu" flocking to a barren field of mud (or frozen mud, depending on the month) :-) NOT!!! As for Bob - I just cannot understand the mindset of someone who knowingly lies to try and separate people from their money, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The facts about 'The Maharishi' biography

2005-09-06 Thread Cliff
I like the Lesbian theory of "many peaks"... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: Impeach Bush Before More Die

2005-09-06 Thread Cliff
So sad to hear Maharishi ranting away. He's failed, he knows it, he can't come to grips with it, and it's always someone else's fault. Really, really sad. Hyping "really useful press releases"? Promising "new programs to save the world" in just a few days? Really, really sad. --- In Fairfiel

[FairfieldLife] Re: SV Hypothesis

2005-09-06 Thread Cliff
Modern scientific thought is based on Newtonian Gravity? Not for the last 90 years or so. Ever heard of Einsteinian Relativity? Newtonian Gravitational theory was quite fundamental for hundreds of years, but has been proven to be a "good approximation" of reality as long as nothing is moving too

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundit housing for Katrina refugees?

2005-09-06 Thread Cliff
Invite the unwashed and the impure into Vedic City, Rick? No wonder you got kicked out of the dome. Totally heretical thinking. About as likely as the Pope inviting women Protestant priests to come and fill up empty rooms in the Vatican. Your intentions are noble, but not in a million years wou

[FairfieldLife] A Balanced View?

2005-09-06 Thread Cliff
In my experience whenever there is a vociferous group loudly proclaiming that a particular event or idea is "completely black", and there is an equally forceful group presenting all sorts of bombastic arguments for it being "completely white", I find that the event or idea usually ends up bei

[FairfieldLife] Re: SV Hypothesis

2005-09-06 Thread Cliff
suspect it to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > w

[FairfieldLife] More Balanced Views?

2005-09-06 Thread Cliff
Here's a Guardian article that points out the very real possibility that many (if not all) the reports of murders, rapes and armed gangs were created by rumor and a press craving disaster in alll its flavors. I also find it interesting that even the Mayor is claiming 10,000 dead, but so far only

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mayor Who Failed His City

2005-09-07 Thread Cliff
And the ones you put up here are "believably honest", Judy? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black, to me. And, yes, I'm sure you'll now try to engage me in a point-by- point "proof" of how absolutely right every word you've ever put on the board is. You and I both know how pointless that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rare honesty

2005-09-07 Thread Cliff
Bet his unhappy wife got it for him without his knowing about it. No man would ever get the plate for himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vanity plate seen on a Hummer in Aspen: > > http://bbs.chrismoore.com/images/splicense.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Defense of the Maharishi (a True Believer perspective)

2005-09-07 Thread Cliff
Careful with your blood pressure, Peter...:-) Not worth having a heart attack over True Belief. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, this is all your belief. Fine and dandy. BUT IT > DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE, YOU IDIOT! > > --- George DeForest <[EMAIL P

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India

2005-09-07 Thread Cliff
I have to agree with willytex here, Rick (as far as the Brits are concerned). They are responsible for preserving much of the ancient literature they found when they arrived in India. For many, no doubt, it was to study the "inferior culture", but others were very impressed with Hinduism as a way

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Defense of the Maharishi (a True Believer perspective)

2005-09-07 Thread Cliff
Where have you been, Sparaig? Maharishi often uses his own name in precisely this context - "Maharishi Stapathya Veda will revolutionize...", or "Maharishi Ayur Veda will save the world...", etc. He has his title and face all over everything! Haven't you noticed? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogrou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India

2005-09-07 Thread Cliff
or > the largest genocide ever known: 75+ million Indians slaughtered > > > On 9/7/05 4:56 PM, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have to agree with willytex here, Rick (as far as the Brits are > > concerned). > > They are responsible fo

[FairfieldLife] New Orleans from a geopolitical perspective

2005-09-07 Thread Cliff
New Orleans: A Geopolitical Prize By George Friedman The American political system was founded in Philadelphia, but the American nation was built on the vast farmlands that stretch from the Alleghenies to the Rockies. That farmland produced the wealth that funded American industrialization: It

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India

2005-09-07 Thread Cliff
ething you have personaly concocted in a vacuum of real information. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/7/05 7:38 PM, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I was going to talk about the Muslims, but I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India

2005-09-07 Thread Cliff
now. As I said, disappointing... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/7/05 8:21 PM, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sympathetic, Vaj, but so far I see nothing but hearsay, and it > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters

2005-09-08 Thread Cliff
I, and others, have called him on his obvious racism and general hatred for anyone not like him. But once you do that once or twice and it's clearly having zero effect, why bother again? Engaging him only seems to encourage his zeal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bostonbob53" <[EMAIL P

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India

2005-09-08 Thread Cliff
dLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/7/05 10:16 PM, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You disapoint me, Vaj, with the transparency of your fabrication. I thought > > you had more integrity than that. It would have been completely > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Cliff
As you've no doubt noticed, Judy LOVES to stir the waters. And there is nothing I can imagine President Bush ever doing or not doing that she wouldn't condemn with all the considerable skill behind her sharply pointed tongue. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oops...

2005-09-08 Thread Cliff
What's the biggest thing you've ever organized in your life, Judy? Did it involved more than 10 people? More than 100? Did it last longer than a few hours? And I mean responsible for - not just helped send out invitations to. What are you doing to positively contribute to this disaster? Certai

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Cliff
;authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > As you've no doubt noticed, Judy LOVES to stir the waters. > > Uh, Cliff, you're not paying attention. What's quoted >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters

2005-09-08 Thread Cliff
TECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I, and others, have called him on his obvious racism and general > > hatred for anyone not like him. But once you do that once or twice > and > > it's clea

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Cliff
Yes, Judy. Have a good night. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Judy - you don't know me well. If you did, I sus

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: "The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here"

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
You've clearly never run even a small corporation, Robert, much less a large one. Otherwise you'd realize what a crushing sense of responsibility that is for any CEO who takes their job seriously. Learn before commenting. Otherwise you sound pretty dumb... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
LOL!! Great literature in the making... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
Called putting your assets to good use... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from the New York Times: > > Some holdouts seem intent on keeping alive the > distinct and wild spirit of this city. In the French > Quarter, Addie Hall and Zackery Bow

[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
It allows people to be employed who won't have ANY job if high minimum- wage guidelines are enforced. This will be particularly helpful in getting teenagers or early-20s people who have little skills back to at least some useful work. I think it's a great move, and I believe I understand the econ

[FairfieldLife] New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
New Orleans death toll may not be "catastrophic" Sep 09 12:31 PM US/Eastern NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first feared, the top Homeland Security official there said on Friday. "There's some encouragement in the initial sweeps. Some of the cat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
They did get hit by a quake, Richard. Sometime in the mid-1970's. Killed somewhere between 250,000 and 750,000 people, but was well covered up by the Communist government. Shit happens. Karma happens. Ends up pretty much the same. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
As of Thursday, Mississippi had recorded 201 deaths and Louisiana 118, while other affected states had much lower numbers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cliff wrote: > The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now is, "And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that?" Then, "Was he asking for donations in the next breath?" Sorry - the universe is too vast for there to be an "only means". And the Divine is too compassionate for there to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
No one has ever said karma is instant that I recall hearing, and in any case, all actions are possible to justify if one tries hard enough. *Well, since you all are so stupid as to keep giving us money when we've clearly lied to you over and over again, we don't get bad karma from doing this. W

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: "The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here"

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
gt; From what I've seen it is pretty difficult to manage a company much > larger than 200. Beyond that things seem to spin out of control. > However, we seem to have lots of fools and megalomaniacs that are > willing to attempt the chore. > > Cliff wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: "The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here"

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
sands of years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you're a big business apologist. :) > > Cliff wrote: > > >There are many corporations of much larger than 200 people who can > >trace their existence back hundreds of

[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
and your objection at all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > It allows people to be employed who won't have ANY job if hig

[FairfieldLife] Re: Grace of Guru only...Was[Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?]

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
, hanumanhoffman9 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now > > is, "And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that?"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
LOL!! Did they deliver staplers as well? Sorry, couldn't resist... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal-Mart for > the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal-Mart ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
Sounds like a species in Star Wars... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- authfriend wrote: > > > > I suspect it's one of his > > quasi-gnomic statements > > I love this. "Quasi-gnomic." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Cliff wrote: > The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first > > feared..., > > > But for weeks now we've been told by the mayor of New Orleans and the > governor of Louisinana tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
You sweet thing, you... Your gentleness and compassion are truly remarkable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Do you have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
27;m just guessing... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" > <[EM

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Contract

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
Damn... and here I thought Telecom contracts were one-sided. Mine from La Antilla was quite a bit simpler, but had the same thrust. This one is just plain sad and a bit depressing to read. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ingegard sent me this and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
It's Vedic Math. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/10/05 3:03:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I'd say it's a draw, actually. . > > Sorta like stealing a dollar from a blind man's > cup and depositing a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
Of course there's not. Large economies end up averaging out - competition forces them to. But an idealogue never lets facts cloud an issue. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/10/05 3:20:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why bail out people who insist on living in dangerous areas?

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
live in the Bay Area. It should be warehouses and > docks. That wouldn't be pretty but so aren't skyscrapers swaying in a > 7.0 earthquake. > > > authfriend wrote: > > >Y'all really should read the article Cliff posted > >here a day or two ago exp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
1. No, TM would not have been able to save the world, no matter what M did. I thought otherwise for many years, but now believe I was far too naive. 2. No, Amma doesn't have the organizational skills needed to spread a technique globally. 3. There is no one technique that can "save the world

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, .......uh......jya

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
No, Judy. He was on heroin when he had the experience, which was quite some time before the course where he related the experience to Maharishi. I knew Jay quite well for many years - spent a few years on long rounding courses with him. He was one of the most manic-depressive people I've ever kn

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Sue The Feds??For/Lack of Preparedness In New Orleans?'

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
Can you be sued for really bad poetry? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it possible to sue the Federal Government; > > I don't know; > > But, the Feds are certainly responsible; > > For not protecting the levees; > > As well as an evacu

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, .......uh......jya

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
fly after lunch... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > No, Judy. He was on heroin when he had the experience, which was > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
Do you think the people would prefer no jobs, Shemp? Wal-Mart is what it is. It doesn't pretend to be the road to riches for anyone. It provides a solid entry-level or 2nd income source for a huge number of Americans. Would you prefer they all be on welfare instead? How about you, Shemp? How

[FairfieldLife] New Orleans update better than thought...

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
Much of New Orleans Will Be Drained by October, Officials Say By Timothy Dwyer and Jim VandeHei Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, September 11, 2005; A11 NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 10 -- Federal officials said Saturday that much of New Orleans will be drained by mid-October, nearly twice as fast as

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Latham Book, .......uh......jya

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
Both the Domash and the plane stories are hilarious!!! Group epileptic seizure... LOL!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/10/05 10:51 PM, Cliff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > *gate-crash the Kingdom of Heaven* - n

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Vs. The United States of America'

2005-09-10 Thread Cliff
Just weep for Robert, Shemp, if weep you must. The *intelligence of TMers* isn't a single entity crying out to be wept for as far as I'm aware. Robert's writing style drives me crazy at times, but it's probably reflective of his mental processes, as most of our writing styles are. He seems r

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY on the luck of the world

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
I disagree, Judy. Maharishi has made innumerable announcements, starting with the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment in January 1975 where he explicitly stated that the end of suffering and ignorance had arrived, and it was only *up* from here. There was no mention that some mass suffering or lo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Founders Day Postponed 'til Fri 9/16 - Alumni Lunch

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
I'm highly dubious about the "Over 1000 people recently visited Maharishi Vedic City, mostly from around the state" claim. Maybe it's a *flexible* definition of recent. And it probably includes the recert courses. 1000 people visiting Vedic City is a very large number, comared to the size.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Minimizing poverty

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
I'd have to agree. Educated, reasonably mature people with a serious interest in stability (ensuring the survival of their offspring) make the best possible citizens. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to George Will today on ABC's "This We

[FairfieldLife] Re: Subjected to the Dalai Lama once again...

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
You must be reading different histories than I, Shemp. Where do you come off blaming the Dalai Lama for the Chinese invasion of Tibet and subsequent killing of lots of Tibetans? If he hadn't fled the country he would have just added one more to the death tally, and his voice, which has given the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Sue The Feds??For/Lack of Preparedness In New Orleans?'

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
Life@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY on the luck of the world

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I disagree, Judy. > > You disagree that I remember hearing it would get > worse before it got better?? > > Maharishi has made i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Founders Day Postponed 'til Fri 9/16 - Alumni Lunch

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
ving in Vedic City, which was an all-day festival over > two > weekends, four days in total. 1,000 visitors would only be 250 a day. > I was > there one day and the place seemed quite busy, so an estimate of > 1,000 over > 4 days does not seem excessive. > > ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm raising relief funds -- PLEASE PARTICIPATE!

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
Paris is my 2nd favorite city on the planet, after Amsterdam. But I understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea. I have the distinct advantage of having a wife who is fluent in French, so I don't suffer the otherwise quite intimidating (and often nasty) social disdain the French so love to hea

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm raising relief funds -- PLEASE PARTICIPATE!

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
I'd say your comment clues me more into your dislike for him than his comment clued me into anything other than he really likes Paris. You clearly really don't like him, but that's hardly news. Why do you bother sniping away? Feels good? You're a jilted ex- lover? He got your sister pregnant?

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, .......uh......jya

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
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[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, .......uh......jya

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
I remember a Humboldt tape where M was talking about drug experiences and he said something like *Taking drugs is like smashing your head through the wall and seeing the room of enlightenment, but you always get yanked back out. Meditation is like walking through the door into the room of enlight

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm raising relief funds -- PLEASE PARTICIPATE!

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
t; with you for very long because you give them an in-depth laundry list of everything that's wrong with them now or has been wrong in the past, or that will be wrong with them in the future? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm raising relief funds -- PLEASE PARTICIPATE!

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
Thanks for clarifying. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Incredibly complex and heavily-invested relationship for two >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha.......the world's first Fool.

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
Considering she was a Jewish mom, I bet she smacked him good for that one! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jesus has similar stories of his relationship with God; and his > other relationships... > > He told his Mother, that she was not his mot

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm raising relief funds -- PLEASE PARTICIPATE!

2005-09-11 Thread Cliff
oiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Incredibly complex and heavily-inve

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch coming to Ann Arbor 9/25

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
Kelly and I just saw him a few weeks ago at the Omega Institute in Rhinebeck, NY. We were there helping to teach a course on Sacred Sex (www.artofbeing.com), and Deepak was there teaching a week seminar. I'd worked with him for a few months at MIU-CNL in DC back in 1984-85, and he had asked Mahar

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
You're just jealous...:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's interesting. the dark side of these people who try to pass > themselves > > off as the latest guru. That tenden

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra (The Dark Vs. The Light)

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
For me, this was the most insightful thing I've seen from you, Robert. You very accurately express how power and money make it far easier for the "dark side" to express itself. Throw in a TMO with a sadly distorted view of sexuality and you have a recipe for serious problems, betrayals, conflicts

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nakedness Before God (was more Chopra)

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
Your take on this surprises me, Peter. There's no "degree of choice" here - it's a choice, pure and simple. If a woman chooses a job where her looks or sexuality is rewarded, that's her choice to make. Yes, there are emotional consequences, as there are to any job. Should women not be allowed t

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
That's just plain ridiculous. How could you possibly know that? Do you stand outside clubs interviewing, "Excuse me, but do you actually like women? I mean, like, not just their breasts and stuff, but do you think they (as a group, of course) are sort of nice, or do you really secrety despise the

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
Most relationships that women have with men do a "number on their heads" with regard to men. Doesn't matter if the woman strips or does database design for a living. Shemp, I understand that you personally feel badly about either having gone to a strip club or wanting to go to one, but you read W

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
that I do as proof that my opinion has value, or will you now display this as "proof" of how (and all those like me, of course) horrible I am to women and how much I dislike them? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
g her engineering degree during the day and was a very cool person. And what is your deep wound over stripping, sparaig? I've answered your questions. I invite you to answer mine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In Fairfiel

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
Irrelevant to the point.And none of your business. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Yes, I've known a number of wom

[FairfieldLife] Re: strippers

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
Only $100 per hour? You're WAY under market. At $20 per dance you should be able to get at least $300 per hour. Now if you just had the right genetic code you could make some serious money! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLif

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nakedness Before God (was more Chopra)

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I have a hard time seeing the difference between Judy wanting to > > tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body i

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
;s not a putdown to women. Most men have similar experiences with many of their relationships with women. Incredibly stupidly offensive? You might consider your own words... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLif

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
te: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Yes, I've known a number of women who either had been or were > > then currently strippers. > > > > I'm curious - you seemed to have been saying that my (or any

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
Since I never have, it would be logically impossible for me to have stopped. Apoplexia doesn't become you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-12 Thread Cliff
Happy to be of service... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Logic and grammar, Judy. I didn't deny the validity of > &

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