Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary!

2015-10-24 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't understand the absolute lack of trust that some in this country have for their fellow, usually non-white, human beings. If you listen to the more unbalanced voices, the country is chock full of those trying to game the system, who can only be controlled by stricter laws, a removal of

[FairfieldLife] Re: NYTIMES >>> TM IN NY SCHOOLS

2015-10-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It looks like the TMO has developed a split - On the one hand, instruction in TM and the TM-Sidhis, is going very well, and gaining a lot of popularity. On the other, the more 'research-oriented' activities, culminating in MUM and the World Government programs, are marginally successful.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary!

2015-10-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Again, the welfare recipients are the victims of capitalism. Economic models of capitalism always predict less than 100% employment. I recall the "ideal" is around 95%, so for that unemployed 5%, they need some form of assistance. Given the radical difference in access to education and services

Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary!

2015-10-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If something is worth having, it's worth working for. That would include economic equality and opportunity. Should a high school drop out have the same

[FairfieldLife] Re: Planets support Hillary!

2015-10-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I hope Martin exercises regularly, as he will need it next time around, to successfully scurry away from the bug spray. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I think this guy typifies today's capitalism. Let's raise the price of an inexpensive AIDS drug

[FairfieldLife] Re: NYTIMES >>> TM IN NY SCHOOLS

2015-10-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Agreed. Those entrusted with protecting the techniques for realization, have themselves not reached the goal. So how can they lead others? Those at the top of the org are blind, though still at the effect of natural laws that render them less and less effective. Which is kind of a good thing,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sudden Awakening and Gradual Cultivation

2015-10-18 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This appears to have morphed into a defense vs criticism of the TMO. Not my fight, though you may want to consider that yogic science has been around a lot longer than any branch of western science, and the benefits are there, if not always accepted. trying to avoid throwing the baby out with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sudden Awakening and Gradual Cultivation

2015-10-18 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Why would NASA speak about colonizing *anything*?? It sort of proves my point that such a fantasy is centuries away. They aren't even close to having the tech to initiate such a project. And yes, we now have TANG, the orange-flavored breakfast drink with a full day's worth of Vitamin C, from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sudden Awakening and Gradual Cultivation

2015-10-18 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The NASA blurb is all self-serving PR about how their current missions will allow them further exploration of space. Not even a replacement for TANG has been developed - lol...As for satellite tech, yes that is useful, and why I restricted my comment to exploration of other planets. Sure, as

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Daughter

2015-10-08 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
lol - yes, exactly. DNA testing could put all of this to rest in a week, but loose talk is easier to sell, especially wrt sex, money, secrets, and spiritual masters. Pretty much the ultimate gossip machine, right there. As for those like Judith who probably had a sexual relationship with

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Daughter

2015-10-08 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am not trying to steal your thunder, just having a little fun at the expense of those who tiresomely raise these faux issues. Perhaps you could be a style consultant to Judith, ensuring her chaste but somewhat worldly appearance, so that she can continue to play the role she was obviously

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Daughter

2015-10-08 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's it?! All the windup and bluster about earth shattering secrets, ending with a 'fuck you'? That is lame, my friend. Where is your supporting evidence, beyond the word-smithed PR essay you provided earlier? Also, adding a 'fuck you' at this stage is completely premature. You need to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sudden Awakening and Gradual Cultivation

2015-10-18 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, there is a pretty strong bias against yogic science in the West. Possibly even a racial prejudice. Yoga did not evolve out of either the Western sciences or religions, and as such, is considered suspect by many. In terms of Western science, there is certainly no justification to spend

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Fwd: Free talk: Speaking and listening from the heart

2015-10-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Methinks MD's intention is to get a reaction counter to the platitudes and promises in the announcement - having us on. Pretty funny, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sounds like you are greatly in need of such a talk. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality

2015-10-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I wonder if little Mahesh ever got the inkling as he was sitting in school, for example, that he would one day grow up to become a famous spiritual teacher? The times have definitely favored his message, and so many of us have been influenced by this one man. It could have been anybody (though

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Klintonerdämmerung / ViewPure

2015-10-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
One thing strongly in favor of Ms. Clinton is that she has served both in the US Senate, and the Cabinet, so she is very much aware of how things get done, or not, in the Federal Government, and has a bizillion connections. Easily the most capable resume among those running. Going after her

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Klintonerdämmerung / ViewPure

2015-10-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I haven't forgotten that she is a politician, as are the rest.:-) I was pointing more at her success and time in two branches of the Federal Govt. It IS *tough*, probably impossible, to find the mythical 100% public servant, especially in the upper reaches of government. The pyramid shrinks on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality

2015-10-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks - I like this broader context of the transcendental wave running through time and consciousness, with some of us picking it up (again and again) as it comes by. Perhaps the efficiency of the TM technique (diving deeply, precisely, and quickly, 2 x 20) speaks to this age, where we don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Fwd: Free talk: Speaking and listening from the heart

2015-10-12 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, they used to call it having good manners.:-) I don't understand how communication can be violent, unless someone is holding a weapon, or about to assault someone else. It sounds like a bit of hyperbole. Also, when did my choice to respond peacefully, forcefully, humorously, or silently, go

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Explosions in Paris

2015-11-14 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Not really - but the broader message is that France has admitted a large population from a region that is enmeshed in violence as an everyday occurrence, the Middle East. It has been going on for generations, inflamed recently by a series of wars. So to bring in a large population already

[FairfieldLife] Re: Migrants in Hungary

2015-09-07 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A good question, though it looks like in both cases the speaker is trying to provoke a fight, using antisocial behavior and disrespectful language. So, it proves exactly what, if the speaker gets their butt kicked? Before choosing A or B, I'd want to know why the speaker is expressing

[FairfieldLife] Re: SPIRITUAL ASTRONAUTS

2015-09-07 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
crawling into the dryer, for a no heat spin cycle works too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Astronauts report an “overview effect” from the awe of space travel—and you can replicate it here on Earth: This moment of awe has had a permanent effect on some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Migrants in Hungary

2015-09-07 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, I would agree. Muslims are no more prone to violence than anyone else is, but get up in their grill, kill their families, and shoot up their temples and you'll have an issue. Also refugee populations are great places to breed violent fanatics, since there are strongly diminished

[FairfieldLife] Re: Migrants in Hungary

2015-09-07 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That would be my preference too. Living in a very permissive society, we may get used to the idea that we can say anything and do anything short of physical violence, in our little neck of the woods, without consequence, as our right. We then extrapolate that to the rest of the world, assuming

[FairfieldLife] Re: Migrants in Hungary

2015-09-07 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Tough to say how it would be, if the Islamic countries had invaded us, though, instead of the other way around. If I had to guess, having a foreign occupying army on your home soil brings out the most fanatical resistance, and reactionary attitudes in people. I am not excusing anyone's behavior

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool.

2015-09-07 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I would be *very* concerned about the persistent reports of organic mold too, within the structure. No 'suspected' about that stuff - it can be fatal, getting into the lungs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Migrants in Hungary

2015-09-07 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
OK, though this has only become an issue recently, due to our military incursions into their territory. I am in favor of using our military to contain a threat, but in this case, we are the aggressors, right or wrong, and it seems presumptuous to be dictating our values to them as well, or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Migrants in Hungary

2015-09-07 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, two extremes. Why not let these other countries do as they please? I don't understand this insistence that they mirror our values. Can't we see them for who they are, and simply stay away? As for the threat of those values taking root here in the US, not much chance. No one with a Koran

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool.

2015-09-08 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am not surprised. Disgraceful, this corner cutting for everything, beyond common sense and safety. Yeah, I don't know of any alternative roofing material that works as well as the petroleum-based products, which if applied correctly aren't a danger, in terms of fumes and exposure. Without

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool.

2015-09-08 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To clarify, similar to Mike D. I am a fan of TM and Maharishi's knowledge. However, the difference between my personal life experience of all things TM, and my experiences with, and stories told about, the TMO are sometimes at odds, and not in a good way. I am not out to bash them, more to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool.

2015-09-08 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Very short-sighted. Though the folks who have the responsibility to spread TM are probably clueless on how to run a university. Spiritual organizations seem generally piss poor at this kind of boring, sustainable activity, since the interest is ALWAYS on the front-lines and the leaders. There

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool.

2015-09-08 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It seems the only way to counter such a situation is to create a management group, paid real-world wages to maintain the property. The current unbalanced attitude of all the attention on managing the knowledge, with little thought given to the infrastructure, isn't working. Though in order to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool.

2015-09-08 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am curious if the world outside the various Movement environs, is still referred to, disparagingly, as "the relative"? It was big back in the '80's, and could account for the lackadaisical attitude dealing with govt. agencies, etc., but hopefully the mindset has changed. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool.

2015-09-09 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks Doug. I don't want to imply that those like "Karl" (Whose piece I have yet to read...) may not be entirely objective in their assessment, though it is much more valuable in any case to hear your direct observations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool.

2015-09-09 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for this - I read most of the MUM Strategic Plan, and it is on par with any corporate annual report. I appreciated the level of detail, such as a line item budget, and reasonable growth expectations. The level of detail is appropriate too, so that this could be used as a working document

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who Would Have Predicted?

2015-09-09 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The other side of the coin is that many of these immigrants, including the illegal ones, add a lot to the bottom lines of the corporations that employ them. Just like 'gun control' we have the laws on the books so that illegal immigrants cannot be employed unless they have citizenship papers or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jindall Feuds with Trump

2015-09-12 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep. Also these words of 'outrage' fade pretty quickly in today's media environment, so there is less and less downside to saying almost anything, for name recognition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Gets him *name recognition* on a local level. Keeps him as a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fiorina Fights Back

2015-09-13 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Obama has launched ten times as many drone strikes as his predecessor did. He also found and killed Bin Laden, instead of playing golf. This story that he is a wimp has no basis. Reagan sold arms to our enemy, Iran, while lying to us about not negotiating with terrorists. There's your wimp, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fiorina Fights Back

2015-09-13 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So, I take it you are *not* an Obama supporter? lol. I think he has done a decent job overall, inheriting a crashed economy that is still struggling to recover, and a destabilized globe. He also doesn't have any dirty little secrets, and hasn't committed any big gaffes, which is refreshing. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fiorina Fights Back

2015-09-14 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, and that no evidence has ever surfaced for iraq's "weapons of mass destruction" either. I think that incident goes a long way to forming people's opinion of the Bush/Cheney Presidency, that the lie to go to war didn't even hold up for a couple of years. Cheney was on the news recently,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fiorina Fights Back

2015-09-14 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Chemical weapons were not the "smoking gun" used to drag us into that war. The empty threat of nuclear weapons, and mobile missile launchers, mysteriously hidden in the desert, were the phantoms used for that stunt. "yellow cake uranium" and "a mushroom cloud" were the phrases I remember being

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fiorina Fights Back

2015-09-14 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Actually no yellow cake uranium was found. It was a trumped up story with unverified sources, supposedly out of Kenya. Bush even outed the CIA agent wife, of the ambassador who blew the whistle on that sham, to "get even". Very nasty people with an agenda that I don't think served the country

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP?

2015-09-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fascinating stuff, jr. Much of what you are correlating to astrology appears to closely fit Trump's general character, and the influences on him in the future. However, as far as breaking this down into how specific real world events will play out for The Donald, wouldn't that mean negating

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP?

2015-09-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks - I enjoy reading about astrology from those who take it seriously - adds a lot of dimension. You confirm my sense that it works for analysis but not so much for prediction, due to the wave function you describe - hadn't thought to put it that way, but it fits. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP?

2015-09-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good points, in terms of transitions being more like shades of light, vs. black and white, and the 'intuitive' averages of our tendencies for each sun sign, reflecting more of a survey than a cognition. I suspect both have happened, though the survey side is discounted, because it doesn't fit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Huckabee: Black People Can't Legally Become American Citizens

2015-09-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This guy might actually be nuts. He looks so normal and average, yet time and again I am speechless at the things he says, and seriously wonder how he has had a voice on our national stage for so long. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Why are Republicans trying to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP?

2015-09-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Although I am not backing any of them, here are my picks in the 2016 horse race, based on the money and power already in place: Trump may make the nomination, though it will be in spite of the mainstream GOP trying to unseat him at every turn. No way will he be elected President - doesn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apple running out of ideas?

2015-09-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, tough to see where Apple will end up, now that Jobs is gone. I always though they limited their market hugely by creating unique interfaces for their platform, first cutting them out of the corporate world, and now finding similar portability issues in the consumer market. I agree that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jindall Feuds with Trump

2015-09-12 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jindall was given the rebut to Obama's State Of The Union a couple of years ago, and blew it badly. He has not been entrusted to carry's his party's water since. This is his really clumsy attempt, imo, to get back in their good graces. He must know he has no chance, but he is probably trying

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fiorina Fights Back

2015-09-14 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I know about the faux scandals, just as those attributed to the Clintons. I am talking about something that sticks no matter what, like Clinton and Lewinsky, Iran-Contra, or Watergate. Nothing like that here, and no it isn't due to the press coddling him. Should be an interesting 14 months.

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Need of Satsang Detox

2015-09-29 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, similar to any outside craving, this one is around the transmission of darshan, spiritual energy, from the teacher to the student, with the dynamic of addiction to this being like any other addiction. As for the warnings here and there about the eclipse, there may be something to them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-03 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good points. I agree that as a society we are beholden to tackle this issue, whatever its scope, simply because of the lives lost. There are a few things, though that are largely absent from the gun control debate. First and most obvious, nothing is being said about actually limiting the number

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-03 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
We have about 11,000 people born in the US each day, and about 6,800 deaths per day, or about 6,770, if we subtract the ~30 deaths daily by firearms. I am not excusing the deaths as a result of guns, however it is clearly not the risk, nor the social evil that we are led to believe it is. With

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-03 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Again, perception vs. reality. Only about 30% of Americans even own a gun, so that means the vast majority do not. And the occurrences of mass gun violence, are actually quite rare, statistically. I am not saying it isn't an issue, but it is not the faux-firestorm that it is made out to be.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-04 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, that was the theory behind the minimum wage for a few decades, but the US is now *last* among industrialized countries, in terms of economic mobility. In other words you may find that once you start at McD's, that is it - With any "excess" jobs farmed overseas, for tax breaks, there aren't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People come to TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 'green cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world has some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi, Thanks for sharing your ideas. I am not really a big reader, nor do I have any association with the TM organization, so I am not the one to evaluate your writing further, or make a proposition to the TMers. That said, I wish you all the best with your pursuits. No doubt you have learned a

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Interesting stuff - thanks for the specifics. Yes, Dances With Wolves was well researched. I find it curious the Western revulsion at violence done directly, though we have no such squeamishness when aiming a laser guided munition at a village. On the one hand, decrying the public

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Maharishi Devi Devantri Global Yagya.

2015-09-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't understand the self-sabotage in a message like this. It is the ungainly combination of a fund-raising initiative, and a Vedic ceremony. Granted, the TMO must generate sustainable revenue streams, above and beyond what the TM and Sidhis programs bring in, so why not just say that?

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Doesn't apply - You are assuming that laser-guided munitions are more precise. They aren't. The laser part is precise. The bomb is still a bomb, exploding 360 degrees, causing lots of collateral damage, blowing innocent women and children to pieces, much more so that the direct violence we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am sorry, but the removal of TM from the mysticism and traditions of the past, is a GOOD thing. I agree that having more knowledgeable teachers would be helpful, though to say that the goals of humanity cannot be achieved solely with TM is completely false, an ego trip that has evolved from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Reason Why Three Supreme Court Justices were No Shows

2015-09-30 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL - I don't get the whole "last meal" nonsense. I can understand if you had been a political prisoner in the 18th century, kept in a dungeon or something, but for the run of the mill modern psychopath, comfortably incarcerated, I'd cite cost-cutting and get rid of it. We are already giving

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deaths During the Hajj

2015-09-30 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fatigue and overcrowding is what I heard on the radio. Apparently many of the pilgrims are exhausted from their journey, and the massive crowds, so that if one falls down, the others behind him begin to stumble and fall too, with those further back continuing to surge forward. Saudi Arabia has

[FairfieldLife] In Need of Satsang Detox

2015-09-28 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I found this on the SAND 2015 page. A little long, but worth reading - In Need of Satsang Detox by Scott Kiloby One reason I moved into the area of addiction treatment at the Kiloby Center was to get away from the satsang circuit. In and of itself, the circuit doesn’t necessarily

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who Would Have Predicted?

2015-09-09 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, definitely a bipartisan effort. I was also reading about the entrenchment and failure of some of the social welfare programs to help the homeless, and that such programs are structured to help symptomatically, vs. actually solving the problem (through long term follow-up and jobs

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

2015-09-19 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is cherry-picking, led by the radical Christian pastors. If the sanctity of human life is so important, where are the anti-war demonstrations by the Christians? Those aren't fetuses we are bombing, and invading, they are fully grown human beings, men, women and yes, children, but not a peep

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

2015-09-19 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, every religion can be shown to have its hypocrisy, but this insistence that abortions cannot be performed according to the choice of the woman who is pregnant, is only prevalent in radical Christianity, and radical Islam. Not all Christian sects are against abortion, and not all Muslim

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

2015-09-20 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I appreciate your commitment, and warning someone of the consequences of sin is OK if they are a close friend I suppose, and/or sharing the same faith. Otherwise, there are many choices for living, and there is also karma for imposing one's will on another. All the religions are incomplete wrt

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Superiorism sounds like life as run by the ego. Slavery, born of great fear, is all that is. The ego is all about always being right, and enforcing boundaries. It very much works in opposition to open-mindedness. Great manager, lousy leader. I am glad such influences are no longer predominant

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
HI, thanks for your info. I was curious where your comment came from. I don't live in Fairfield, nor do I shop much in the spiritual supermarket. I am always interested in how any of us puts our found spiritual gifts into practice. If I may take the lazy person's way out, what do you consider

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That covers a lot of ground.:-) I agree that TM is a mechanical means to liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that it can work as described. It is basically a tool for us to get out of the dullness you mentioned, and get things moving again - we are at our core, transcendental

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

2015-09-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ironic, again, that Ronald Reagan was the father of the 'amnesty for illegal immigrants' program - converted nearly 3 million to US citizens that way, during his Presidency. The reason his program of reform failed, is that his own party made him strip out all the legislation that enforced the

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-25 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-25 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't going to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. Even Maharishi focused on very small groups to continue the world's evolution. There is no need for 99% or more of the population to meditate. It is all

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

2015-09-21 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Let's talk about this term, "murder", wrt an abortion. I know the radical preachers have seized on this term as a graphic and ugly description of abortion. But, have any of them known a murder victim? Someone who had a full life and a circle of friends and family, those that loved them, who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

2015-09-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Agreed - It always feels a little racist to me also, this whole scaredy-cat routine over Barack Obama's patriotism and place of birth. There is an ugliness to raising this as an issue, that hasn't been applied to other recent Presidents. Clearly a smear campaign to undermine his legitimacy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi, and Welcome - I read the available excerpts of your book - I am curious about your statement below that you are more one pointed and disciplined than most. In what domain, and what has that done for you lately? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thank you

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

2015-09-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't think we will see eye to eye on this within the context of this discussion, though I heartily agree with what you had said earlier about being true to oneself, and having the courage of your convictions (paraphrasing). The topic of abortion can be such a contentious issue, and yet we've

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

2015-09-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Not at all - I don't think you are a racist either. But this is just really dirty, even for politics, and as I said feels a little racist to me, for the reasons I mentioned. It also has nothing to do with his policies, just a personal attack. I do find it ironic that many Republicans have

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

2015-09-21 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Even if I take you at your word here, this still lacks an explanation for why this is the bigger issue, vs. the lives lost through US led invasions of other countries. To say waging war is self-defense makes such actions morally meaningless, allowing us aggression in any quarter, justified as

[FairfieldLife] The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a miracle, or a coincidence?

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This caught my attention: Pope held sick baby, what happened next is amazing http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Those could be useful adjustments, though you still have the basic "problem" with TM, of transcending twice a day -- If TM can be considered a technology, we are used to having our tech delivered with no downside, except cost. TM represents the benefits of tech; acceleration, expansion, ease,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: California Drought a Government Conspiracy?

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://meatballcandy.com/2013/its-been-raining-for-days-and-days-so-i-started http://meatballcandy.com/2013/its-been-raining-for-days-and-days-so-i-started http://meatballcandy.com/2013/its-been-raining-for-days-and-days-so-i-started

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

2015-09-19 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This whole abortion "debate" seems like such a set up. Why proclaim that due to religious principles, abortion is murder, or that gay marriage is sin, and then live in the USA? I am not suggesting such believers should leave, though it seems like an awful lot of heartache to go through, to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh yeah, there are lots of meditations - I used TM as an example because it is mentioned in the book that began this discussion. The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to God, they would stand in line to learn it. I am interested in exploring the reasons that

[FairfieldLife] Re: YF'ing Yogic Flying Evidently is Out

2015-11-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To clarify: I personally have not conducted any scientific studies...:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not studied? ..The Support of Nature Phenomena and heightened intuition from meditating. Empirical analysis of people’s experience of ‘support of

[FairfieldLife] Re: YF'ing Yogic Flying Evidently is Out

2015-11-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL - don't we all? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That's a fabulous benefit. I mean the parking space thing. I have noticed this for many years, although I do not attribute it to the sidhis. I think I am just naturally a superior being. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: YF'ing Yogic Flying Evidently is Out

2015-11-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sounds like a strange sales talk...I would think bringing up superiority in that vein, along with "easier parking" as the key benefit, would lead to very few takers. But yeah, "the parking space thing" -- must be something to it, as it comes up from time to time regarding the siddhis course. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific Solution to Terrorism and War Deaths: TM found to reduce them by 70%!

2015-12-15 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If it exists it can be measured, or in what way can it be said to be existing? Yes, good question, but what if, as others have suggested, it is the relatively imprecise capability of the measurement devices themselves, that leads us to conclude a judgment of no value for various practices?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific Solution to Terrorism and War Deaths: TM found to reduce them by 70%!

2015-12-15 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"Someone has to stand up for reality. People like S (snip) are the intended recipients of this stuff. They'll bleed him dry if they get the chance." They DO have the chance, and obviously choose not to even attempt such a thing. Despite the overheated rhetoric around this singular letter for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific Solution to Terrorism and War Deaths: TM found to reduce them by 70%!

2015-12-15 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I tend to agree. Science is not a religion, and should not be treated as one. Both love and beauty, for example cannot be explained by western science, nor can consciousness, which paradoxically forms the basis for everything. So science does a great job of discovering and objectifying natural

[FairfieldLife] Re: 2016: revival of TM??

2016-01-06 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Pretty darned impressive. It is easy enough to exist, but tough to thrive in this world without transcending regularly, refreshing oneself. Here's for 50, or a 100 thousand TM initiations this year in the US. Looks like Finland is catching on, too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Militia Madness

2016-01-06 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
These "protesters" are simply criminals in cowboy hats. If you read the background, these folks are just looking to pick a fight. Same with the BLM crowd. Even the ranchers charged with arson have reported to prison to finish out their mandatory sentences. Game over. The Feds oughta just fence

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Guy Is Certifiable

2015-12-31 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Not crazy, typical. This type of language is common in the corporate world where The Donald lives. Corporations are full of those who fantasize sex and violence into business transactions. I recall a 'tech wizard' once saying he would, "bring the system to its knees". Bravado, and macho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

2015-12-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better Presidents. I find it appalling that the many racists in the US Congress see fit to obstruct him, simply because of the color of his skin. Anyway, just for you old white racists, I would LOVE it if we had another black man (or a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

2015-12-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't consider Mr. Trump to be qualified as President, however this article lays out plainly the sleazy hatchet job that many establishment news outlets are giving him. He is a businessman, and the object in business is to win. That is his skill. I also appreciate that no one owns him. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

2015-12-28 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking were all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

2015-12-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul Castro of Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has advocated, or worse, acted on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty confident I can wait here for days without a name from you, even down to the level of city

[FairfieldLife] Re: YF'ing Yogic Flying Evidently is Out

2015-11-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
difficult to assess without more info - I heard the same thing back then, only it was said in a context of evolution and personal growth, not judgment. Just as someone would say, for example, after you graduate from college, you will know more about x or y, than you did in high school.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is Eggzactly why Trump will be elected

2016-06-04 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The Republican leadership blew it Big Time with their obstructionist stance, demonstrated by not even considering a Supreme Court nominee from "the Black President", and, "We'll just wait for the election, nearly a year away". Ha. It blew up in their faces like a cartoon firecracker. Made

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