Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-30 Thread authfriend
 It's not so much the laying down in the corpse pose that is so difficult 

 

 The question is, what is Richard laying when he's down in the corpse pose? 
Jelly beans? Golf balls? Chicken McNuggets?
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-30 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/30/2013 8:26 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It's not so much the laying down in the corpse pose that is so 
difficult 


* The question is, what is Richard laying when he's down in the corpse 
pose?

 Jelly beans? Golf balls? Chicken McNuggets?

Many thanks to The Corrector for pointing this out to The Professor.
*

*Maybe Richard is laying the foundation for a conversation about MMY's 
yoga poses? Go figure.

*




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-30 Thread authfriend
Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for the matchless, inimitable Obviousness of 
Share Long!
 

 (Wait, or should that be Obliviousness!?)
 
  to bobpriced from an ancient and wise story: Is that so? 
 

 
 
 On Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:44 AM, bobpriced@... bobpriced@... wrote:
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, steve.sundur@... wrote:

 Thanks Bob, I feel fortunate to be able spend time with family in a special 
place doing fun activities.
  
 First, I do enjoy Richard's writing style.  Now, I know that has nothing to do 
with content, but style points do count for me.
  
 Second, it has been my observation that some edge has been taken off his 
comments*, and  because of this, it has made him more readable.
  
 Third, I find Judy to have an overbearing style, lacking tact and the 
inability, (purposely or unaware) ignoring nuance.  And so, when Richard 
attacks her on these fronts, I find it humorous.
  
 As for his content, I enjoy some of the pictures and situations he describes.  
I also find some of his links interesting, but I typically don't have the time 
to click on them.
  
 That's the best I can do.
  
 I hope your daughter is doing well.  I am immensely enjoying skiing with mine. 
 
  
 * Certainly Richards comments to Judy have edge.  Please see item three.
 

 

 Steve, 
 

 Thanks for responding. Your gratitude for the family you're been graced with 
comes through in your FFL contributions; IMO, it speaks highly of you as a 
human being. 
 

 Thank you for asking about my daughter, she's doing great and just turned 
sixteen.  
 

 I understand you find Richard entertaining, but I think we can agree that 
being entertained is not the same thing as learning something. I thought when 
you mentioned Richard's original content there might be something in his 
posts that you found edifying - that I had missed; from what you say here, it 
appears that's not the case.
 

 As entertainment, I personally find the voice Richard employs on FFL more than 
a little bit grating - not unlike one of those automated customer service bots 
you get when you call Future Shop. On the edumacation front, he reads like he 
thinks his readership know English as a second language - which could explain 
why Judy has opted for macros, and Uriah Heep thinks she's discovered The 
Rosetta Stone. 
 

 I'm not sure how much original content I've been able to harvest from 
Richards offerings, but lets take a look: 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock - 
I'm guessing you've heard of ROLLING STONE, if not, I could send you a link; 
What People Wear - I'm still recovering from red tie with a maroon shirt; 
What People Eat - I mean really, who cares about shopping at WFM when you 
have Dean and DeLuca and Eataly (personally, I agree with PJ O'Rourke: Eat 
The Rich); and, of course, lets not forget his reports from the front of his 
yoga mat (which he does not seem to be visiting enough) - on the history of 
consciousness; at best they read like badly written book reviews, and, most 
definitely - ALL ABOUT RICHARD. IMO, 90% of his wikipuff output are cut and 
paste jobs from the threatened opus he claims he's been working on the last 50 
years. Please direct me to anything original in any of this output. 
 

 The thread I thought had potential was the one with his snaps of run down 
houses, but so far he's failed to close the deal by not somehow pointing out 
the irony of these images coming from a tea bagger who's never gone beyond warm 
water. 
 

 I do admit to the guilty pleasure of watching Uriah Heep cobble together this 
unholy alliance between these two old farts in a wind storm - who hated each 
other a few weeks ago; not unlike watching the last days of the 
Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, just before Operation Barbarossa; old Uriah is nothing 
if not obvious. 
 

 I disagree with you about Judy; IMO, she's the most effective contributor on 
FFL and writes the best sentences on the forum: she' s funny, well informed and 
curious; please point to anywhere you've spotted these qualities in Barry's or 
Richard's contributions. Judy is obviously strong, smart and independent: be 
honest Steve, if Judy was man there wouldn't any of this hostility toward her 
passion for accuracy. She does not start these exchanges, but she'll be damned 
before she'd let someone pretend accuracy and fairness are not important - just 
because it's the Internet. 
 

 And since its the award season, and she decided to jump into our conversation 
- before I could respond to you; how bout an award for Uriah for The Years Most 
Obvious?
 

 Happy New Year to you and your family; and to Richard and Barry: more cowbell 
please. 
  
 
  
 

  
  


 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-30 Thread authfriend
Why on earth would you be thrilled? The novels are quite well known.
 

 I asked you, 'Favorite character'? You mean like kids have a favorite 
character in the Harry Potter novels? because I couldn't believe I had 
understood you correctly. I have never heard an adult say they have a favorite 
character in a series of adult novels, much less a series of serious novels 
about the theological and moral struggles of Church of England clerics.
 

 I mean, if that's your thing, fine. It sure ain't mine.
 

 Have you ever written to Howatch telling her all about your favorite 
character? I bet she'd be amused, er, delighted.
 

 Did you know Yahoo has a Susan Howatch group? Isn't that thrilling!?
 

 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/howatch/info 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/howatch/info

 
Maybe you could join that group and see if any of the members have a favorite 
Howatch character.

 Richard, I can empathize. I was thrilled to discover that Judy has also read 
the novels of Susan Howatch, a favorite author of mine. I asked her who her 
favorite Howatch character is. She responded with a putdown containing 
references to teens and Harry Potter! I still think she needs a pitta pacifying 
diet.  

 
 
 On Saturday, December 28, 2013 7:52 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
   
 On 12/28/2013 6:44 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 I learned long ago that interesting is in the eye of the beholder. 
Apparently you don't find anything interesting that is posted here, except 
Barry pushing some buttons; the post count; and posting some macros. I thought 
fer sure you'd make a reply to my comments on Wagner. Go figure.
 
 

 
 





 
 
 
 











Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-30 Thread Share Long
Judy, thanks for info about Howatch yahoo group.





On Monday, December 30, 2013 9:04 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Why on earth would you be thrilled? The novels are quite well known.

I asked you, 'Favorite character'? You mean like kids have a favorite 
character in the Harry Potter novels? because I couldn't believe I had 
understood you correctly. I have never heard an adult say they have a favorite 
character in a series of adult novels, much less a series of serious novels 
about the theological and moral struggles of Church of England clerics.

I mean, if that's your thing, fine. It sure ain't mine.

Have you ever written to Howatch telling her all about your favorite character? 
I bet she'd be amused, er, delighted.

Did you know Yahoo has a Susan Howatch group? Isn't that thrilling!?

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/howatch/info


Maybe you could join that group and see if any of the members have a favorite 
Howatch character.

 Richard, I can empathize. I was thrilled to discover that Judy has also read 
the novels of Susan Howatch, a favorite author of mine. I asked her who her 
favorite Howatch character is. She responded with a putdown containing 
references to teens and Harry Potter! I still think she needs a pitta pacifying 
diet. 





On Saturday, December 28, 2013 7:52 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
  
On 12/28/2013 6:44 PM, authfriend@... wrote:

I learned long ago that interesting is in the eye of the beholder.
Apparently you don't find anything interesting that is posted here, except 
Barry pushing some buttons; the post count; and posting some macros. I thought 
fer sure you'd make a reply to my comments on Wagner. Go figure.





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-30 Thread Share Long
Judy, asking you which Howatch character is your favorite is only a possible 
beginning point to a discussion of her novels. How would you begin discussing 
them? I think I read somewhere recently that she's discontinued writing. I 
found her last novel, The Heartbreaker, more tamasic than her earlier novels 
and I was dismayed to see that trend, which I think started with The High Flyer 
and maybe even a little with The Wonder Worker.




On Monday, December 30, 2013 9:44 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
Judy, thanks for info about Howatch yahoo group.




On Monday, December 30, 2013 9:04 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Why on earth would you be thrilled? The novels are quite well known.

I asked you, 'Favorite character'? You mean like kids have a favorite 
character in the Harry Potter novels? because I couldn't believe I had 
understood you correctly. I have never heard an adult say they have a favorite 
character in a series of adult novels, much less a series of serious novels 
about the theological and moral struggles of Church of England clerics.

I mean, if that's your thing, fine. It sure ain't mine.

Have you ever written to Howatch telling her all about your favorite character? 
I bet she'd be amused, er, delighted.

Did you know Yahoo has a Susan Howatch group? Isn't that thrilling!?

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/howatch/info


Maybe you could join that group and see if any of the members have a favorite 
Howatch character.

 Richard, I can empathize. I was thrilled to discover that Judy has also read 
the novels of Susan Howatch, a favorite author of mine. I asked her who her 
favorite Howatch character is. She responded with a putdown containing 
references to teens and Harry Potter! I still think she needs a pitta pacifying 
diet. 





On Saturday, December 28, 2013 7:52 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
  
On 12/28/2013 6:44 PM, authfriend@... wrote:

I learned long ago that interesting is in the eye of the beholder.
Apparently you don't find anything interesting that is posted here, except 
Barry pushing some buttons; the post count; and posting some macros. I thought 
fer sure you'd make a reply to my comments on Wagner. Go figure.





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
The thread I thought had potential was the one with his snaps of run 
down houses, but so far he's failed to close the deal by not somehow 
pointing out the irony of these images coming from a tea bagger who's 
never gone beyond warm water. 
I already told you, Bob, I'm not gay. You do what you want, so just 
forget the soliciting.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
I understand you find Richard entertaining, but I think we can agree 
that being entertained is not the same thing as learning something. 
You came to the wrong place, Bob - if you came here to learn anything. 
To learn something you need to get out more and not hang around an 
internet forum. If anyone came here for entertainment, you do post some 
amusing comments, though.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
I thought when you mentioned Richard's original content there might 
be something in his posts that you found edifying - that I had missed; 
from what you say here, it appears that's not the case.

You're actually reading my stuff, Bob? Go figure.

Of course, my comments can't compare to all the edifying comments you've 
posted this month. But, I'm working on it. So, who said I was posting 
anything for you to read? Maybe I was addressing Bill or Buck, to get 
some feedback; they are probably more qualified to post comments than 
you seem to be, judging by your posted comments lately. Judy did a good 
job of getting rid of Curtis, Robin, and Vaj, and Ravi got banned - so 
now we're left with you. When are you going to get to work and post 
something worth commenting on?


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
As entertainment, I personally find the voice Richard employs on FFL 
more than a little bit grating - not unlike one of those automated 
customer service bots you get when you call Future Shop.
Now this is really funny coming from a guy that just posted ten macros 
in a row. LoL!


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm not sure how much original content I've been able to harvest 
from Richards offerings, but lets take a look: 100 Greatest Artists 
of Hard Rock - I'm guessing you've heard of ROLLING STONE,
Probably everyone has heard of Rolling Stone Magazine, Bob, but not 
everyone reads it. And, some people aren't even old enough to have heard 
of Eric Clapton or Carlos Santana, but they're probably not on this 
forum. You've probably read every issue of Rolling Stone since the first 
issue back in 1967, so I probably couldn't tell you anything you don't 
already know. You could probably recite from memory everyone listed on 
the Rolling Stone list of the 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock; all 
their hit recordings; the dates and the venues they played at; and what 
instruments they play. But, can you sing or play?


Or, it could be that you haven't been to a live venue since Lonnie 
Donegan played the Cavern Club. Who knows if you don't speak up? S3 
doesn't seem to have a problem talking about music. I thought fer sure 
you'd post a comment about my take on Wagner, though. Go figure.


P.S. You seem to be getting better at posting using NEO - your post at 
least has an almost readable size font face. Maybe someday, in a few 
dozen years, you'll be able to upload a digital photo like I do; or a 
link to a YouTube video that works like mine do. I already told you how 
to do it - what are you waiting for? Let's see what you can do.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Share Long
to bobpriced from an ancient and wise story: Is that so?





On Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com 
bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  




---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, steve.sundur@... wrote:


Thanks Bob, I feel fortunate to be able spend time with family in a special 
place doing fun activities.
 
First, I do enjoy Richard's writing style.  Now, I know that has nothing to do 
with content, but style points do count for me.
 
Second, it has been my observation that some edge has been taken off his 
comments*, and  because of this, it has made him more readable.
 
Third, I find Judy to have an overbearing style, lacking tact and the 
inability, (purposely or unaware) ignoring nuance.  And so, when Richard 
attacks her on these fronts, I find it humorous.
 
As for his content, I enjoy some of the pictures and situations he describes.  
I also find some of his links interesting, but I typically don't have the time 
to click on them.
 
That's the best I can do.
 
I hope your daughter is doing well.  I am immensely enjoying skiing with mine.  
 
* Certainly Richards comments to Judy have edge.  Please see item three.


Steve, 

Thanks for responding. Your gratitude
for the family you're been graced with comes through in your FFL contributions;
IMO, it speaks highly of you as a human being. 

Thank you for asking about
my daughter, she's doing great and just turned sixteen.  

I understand you find
Richard entertaining, but I think we can agree that being entertained is not
the same thing as learning something. I thought when you mentioned Richard's
original content there might be something in his posts that you
found edifying - that I had missed; from what you say here, it appears that's
not the case.

As entertainment, I
personally find the voice Richard employs on FFL more than a little bit grating
- not unlike one of those automated customer service bots you get when you call
Future Shop. On the edumacation front, he reads like he thinks his readership
know English as a second language - which could explain why Judy has opted for
macros, and Uriah Heep thinks she's discovered The Rosetta Stone. 

I'm not sure how much
original content I've been able to harvest from Richards offerings,
but lets take a look: 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock - I'm
guessing you've heard of ROLLING STONE, if not, I could send you a link;
What People Wear - I'm still recovering from red tie with a maroon
shirt; What People Eat - I mean really, who cares about shopping at
WFM when you have Dean and DeLuca and Eataly (personally, I agree with PJ
O'Rourke: Eat The Rich); and, of course, lets not forget his reports from the 
front of his yoga mat (which
he does not seem to be visiting enough) - on the history of consciousness; at
best they read like badly written book reviews, and, most definitely - ALL
ABOUT RICHARD. IMO, 90% of his wikipuff output are cut and paste jobs from the
threatened opus he claims he's been working on the last 50 years. Please direct
me to anything original in any of this output. 

The thread I thought had
potential was the one with his snaps of run down houses, but so far he's failed
to close the deal by not somehow pointing out the irony of these images coming
from a tea bagger who's never gone beyond warm water. 

I do admit to the guilty
pleasure of watching Uriah Heep cobble together this unholy alliance between
these two old farts in a wind storm - who hated each other a few weeks ago; not
unlike watching the last days of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, just before
Operation Barbarossa; old Uriah is nothing if not obvious. 

I disagree with you about
Judy; IMO, she's the most effective contributor on FFL and writes the best
sentences on the forum: she' s funny, well informed and curious; please point
to anywhere you've spotted these qualities in Barry's or Richard's 
contributions. Judy is
obviously strong, smart and independent: be honest Steve, if Judy was man there
wouldn't any of this hostility toward her passion for accuracy. She does not
start these exchanges, but she'll be damned before she'd let someone pretend
accuracy and fairness are not important - just because it's the Internet. 

And since its the
award season, and she decided to jump into our conversation - before I could
respond to you; how bout an award for Uriah for The Years Most Obvious?

Happy New Year to you and
your family; and to Richard and Barry: more cowbell please. 
 
 

 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
lets not forget his /reports from the front/ of his yoga mat (which he 
does not seem to be visiting enough) - on the history of consciousness;
Maybe, but I don't think I've posted anything on the history of 
consciousness, Bob. That would be going back way before my time. But 
thanks for the suggestion. But, at least I have a yoga mat - can you 
even hold a single pose except for the corpse pose? It's not 
complicated. Yoga is all about placement and positioning.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Share Long
LOL but Richard I have heard that the corpse pose is actually the hardest to 
do. And the most beneficial. Yes, one could say go figure!





On Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:50 PM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:

lets not forget his reports from the front of his yoga mat (which he does not 
seem to be visiting enough) - on the history of consciousness;
Maybe, but I don't think I've posted anything on the history of 
consciousness, Bob. That would be going back way before my time. But thanks 
for the suggestion. But, at least I have a yoga mat - can you even hold a 
single pose except for the corpse pose? It's not complicated. Yoga is all about 
placement and positioning.



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
ALL ABOUT RICHARD. IMO, 90% of his wikipuff output are cut and paste 
jobs from the threatened opus he claims he's been working on the last 
50 years. Please direct me to anything original in any of this output. 
Who did you think it was about, if not about Richard, Bob? However, I am 
the author of some of the Wikipedia entries and so is Lawson. But, I 
didn't see any comments or suggestion from a Bob Priced in any of the 
editing notes on Wikipedia. What subjects did you comment on or edit? 
The one about MMY or TM or SBS? Go figure.


P.S. Nobody can cut and paste from Wikipedia - you probably meant copy 
and paste. That's what it's there for, Bob, as long as it falls under 
the fair use policy or the Wiki Commons.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
And since its the award season, and she decided to jump into our 
conversation - before I could respond to you; how bout an award for 
Uriah for The Years Most Obvious?
Well, Bob, I don't think the Post Count could really be YOUR 
conversation, since it's all about RICHARD'S post count. Maybe we should 
give you the award for Most Macros Posted in a Week. Anyone second 
that? Share? Steve?


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 12:20 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
*Uriah Heep* is a fictional character 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_character created by Charles 
Dickens http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Dickens in his novel 
David Copperfield http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield.
It's really great that you've kept up on the latest fictional 
literature, Ann. I think I read Dickens back in Junior High School about 
the time I read Henry Esmond in my first or second literature class. 
Thanks for reminding me.. But, don't forget that Uriah Heap was also a 
rock band and David Copperfield is a popular stage magician. So, it's 
nice to find out that at least someone on this list is staying current.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 1:13 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
As for Richard's stuff, it is like walking into a gourmet supermarket 
and finding that *everything*, from the garlic mustard, to the 
pastries, to the holiday ham, is all composed of well-disguised, mushy 
oatmeal. As Judy's possibly distant cousin, Gertrude, remarked, 
There's no there, there.
Fer sure Richard can't hold a candle to all your profound comments, 
Doctor Dumbass. LoL!


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 12/29/2013 1:52 PM, Share Long wrote:
 LOL but Richard I have heard that the corpse pose is actually the 
 hardest to do.
At Bob's age, just finding the mat is probably the hardest thing to do. 
It's not so much the laying down in the corpse pose that is so difficult 
- it's the getting back up into a standing position again that is so 
tricky. LoL!

P.S. One trick about doing the Shavasana Asana (corpse pose) is to do it 
on a really high bed with four sturdy posts at each corner. That way, 
you can grab onto one of the posts and then you can swing your legs 
around off the side of the bed and you are half way to a standing 
position. Then, all you need is a hand and a tug from someone like Rita, 
and you're upright. It works for me!


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpriced@... mailto:bobpriced@... wrote:
 
 I understand you find Richard entertaining, but I think we can agree that 
being entertained is not the same thing as learning something. You came to the 
wrong place, Bob - if you came here to learn anything. To learn something you 
need to get out more and not hang around an internet forum. If anyone came here 
for entertainment, you do post some amusing comments, though.
 
 Doesn't he though? If you don't think this is a place to learn anything why 
do you keep trying to teach us all stuff, Ricardo? I have come to think of you 
as our resident 'school marm' always saying tsk, tsk and trying to correct 
our netiquette and advise us who is worth reading and who is not worth reading 
and all the time imagining yourself to be accomplishing a little bit of 
internet cleansing.
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpriced@... mailto:bobpriced@... wrote:
 
 I thought when you mentioned Richard's original content there might be 
something in his posts that you found edifying - that I had missed; from what 
you say here, it appears that's not the case. You're actually reading my stuff, 
Bob? Go figure.
 
 Of course, my comments can't compare to all the edifying comments you've 
posted this month. But, I'm working on it. So, who said I was posting anything 
for you to read? Maybe I was addressing Bill or Buck, to get some feedback; 
they are probably more qualified to post comments than you seem to be, judging 
by your posted comments lately. Judy did a good job of getting rid of Curtis, 
Robin, and Vaj, and Ravi got banned - so now we're left with you. When are you 
going to get to work and post something worth commenting on?
 
 Evidently he just did. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpriced@... mailto:bobpriced@... wrote:
 
 As entertainment, I personally find the voice Richard employs on FFL more than 
a little bit grating - not unlike one of those automated customer service bots 
you get when you call Future Shop. Now this is really funny coming from a guy 
that just posted ten macros in a row. LoL!
 
 BoB really did get you going, Regardez-vous. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpriced@... mailto:bobpriced@... wrote:
 
 I'm not sure how much original content I've been able to harvest from 
Richards offerings, but lets take a look: 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock - 
I'm guessing you've heard of ROLLING STONE, Probably everyone has heard of 
Rolling Stone Magazine, Bob, but not everyone reads it. And, some people aren't 
even old enough to have heard of Eric Clapton or Carlos Santana, but they're 
probably not on this forum. You've probably read every issue of Rolling Stone 
since the first issue back in 1967, so I probably couldn't tell you anything 
you don't already know. You could probably recite from memory everyone listed 
on the Rolling Stone list of the 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock; all their 
hit recordings; the dates and the venues they played at; and what instruments 
they play. But, can you sing or play?
 
 Or, it could be that you haven't been to a live venue since Lonnie Donegan 
played the Cavern Club. Who knows if you don't speak up? S3 doesn't seem to 
have a problem talking about music. I thought fer sure you'd post a comment 
about my take on Wagner, though. Go figure.
 
 P.S. You seem to be getting better at posting using NEO - your post at least 
has an almost readable size font face. Maybe someday, in a few dozen years, 
you'll be able to upload a digital photo like I do; or a link to a YouTube 
video that works like mine do. I already told you how to do it - what are you 
waiting for? Let's see what you can do.
 
 As amusing as it is to try and watch you take down bOb, Ricky, it isn't 
quite working, but carry on. It is only providing more material for whatever he 
will be posting next which, needless to say, I am looking forward to. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread anartaxius
To do the corpse pose properly Share, you have to die. Most find this more than 
they can handle. Also you have to use methods that allow getting into the 
proper form prior to expiration.
 
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:

 LOL but Richard I have heard that the corpse pose is actually the hardest to 
do. And the most beneficial. Yes, one could say go figure!
 

 
 
 On Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:50 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
   
 On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpriced@... mailto:bobpriced@... wrote:
 
 lets not forget his reports from the front of his yoga mat (which he does not 
seem to be visiting enough) - on the history of consciousness; Maybe, but I 
don't think I've posted anything on the history of consciousness, Bob. That 
would be going back way before my time. But thanks for the suggestion. But, at 
least I have a yoga mat - can you even hold a single pose except for the corpse 
pose? It's not complicated. Yoga is all about placement and positioning.
 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 1:13 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
As for Richard's stuff, it is like walking into a gourmet supermarket 
and finding that *everything*, from the garlic mustard, to the 
pastries, to the holiday ham, is all composed of well-disguised, mushy 
oatmeal. As Judy's possibly distant cousin, Gertrude, remarked, 
There's no there, there.
Well, I know Judy has set the bar really, really high for posting 
spiritual essays on this forum, but if you're a TM Teacher and you've 
been reading stuff uploaded by a willy from Texas, posted to an 
internet chat room, you probably need more spiritual help than Judy can 
provide. So, there.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
these two old farts in a wind storm - who hated each other a few weeks 
ago; not unlike watching the last days of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, 
just before Operation Barbarossa
Speaking of old farts, Bob - I don't think anyone here realized you were 
born before 1939 to witness the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact or before 1941 
and the beginning of Operation Barbarossa. That makes you even older 
that Barry, who is a Baby Boomer. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 2:42 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
If you don't think this is a place to learn anything why do you keep 
trying to teach us all stuff, Ricardo?
I've done my best to dumb it down so you and some others can understand 
the mechanics of consciousness, Ann. If it's not simple enough, I'll try 
to make it a little easier to understand. Where should I start? First, 
it's not my job to answer questions - my job is to question answers. 
Where did you get the idea that I was trying to teach you anything?


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 2:43 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:


When are you going to get to work and post something worth
commenting on?

Evidently he just did.


But, what is it worth, Ann, that's the question - more than two cents?


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 2:45 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

BoB really did get you going, Regardez-vous.
Well, it is kind of slow around here today. That is, until you opened 
your big pie hole. LoL!


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 2:50 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:


P.S. You seem to be getting better at posting using NEO - your
post at least has an almost readable size font face. Maybe
someday, in a few dozen years, you'll be able to upload a digital
photo like I do; or a link to a YouTube video that works like mine
do. I already told you how to do it - what are you waiting for?
Let's see what you can do.

As amusing as it is to try and watch you take down bOb, Ricky,
it isn't quite working, but carry on. 


Thanks, you and Bob seem to be my biggest fans these days.


It is only providing more material for whatever he will be posting
next which, needless to say, I am looking forward to.

Maybe Bob wants to run with my crew  - through cyber space and crunch 
numbers like I do. They call me the king of the spreadsheets; got 'em 
all printed out on my bedsheets. My new computer's got the clocks; it 
rocks. But it was obsolete before I opened the box. You say you've had 
your desktop for over a week? Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique.


'Its All About the Pentiums'
by Weird Al Yankovich
From the CD 'Running With Scissors'
http://youtu.be/qpMvS1Q1sos



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Share Long
Hey, Xeno, that's why I practice every day. They call it dying before dying. 
Very cool.





On Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:56 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com 
anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
To do the corpse pose properly Share, you have to die. Most find this more than 
they can handle. Also you have to use methods that allow getting into the 
proper form prior to expiration.

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:


LOL but Richard I have heard that the corpse pose is actually the hardest to 
do. And the most beneficial. Yes, one could say go figure!





On Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:50 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
  
On 12/29/2013 11:44 AM, bobpriced@... wrote:

lets not forget his reports from the front of his yoga mat (which he does not 
seem to be visiting enough) - on the history of consciousness;
Maybe, but I don't think I've posted anything on the history of 
consciousness, Bob. That would be going back way before my time. But thanks 
for the suggestion. But, at least I have a yoga mat - can you even hold a 
single pose except for the corpse pose? It's not complicated. Yoga is all about 
placement and positioning.





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/29/2013 12:20 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 
 Uriah Heep is a fictional character created by Charles Dickens in his novel 
David Copperfield. It's really great that you've kept up on the latest 
fictional literature, Ann. I think I read Dickens back in Junior High School 
about the time I read Henry Esmond in my first or second literature class. 
Thanks for reminding me.. But, don't forget that Uriah Heap was also a rock 
band and David Copperfield is a popular stage magician. So, it's nice to find 
out that at least someone on this list is staying current.
 
 I wasn't talkin' to you. It was for Sharon's benefit. I was afraid she was too 
busy practicing the 'corpse pose' to maybe have figured out how Uriah Heep 
relates to her. But it is edifying that they teach Dickens in Texas. Maybe 
there is hope for that God-forsaken place after all. Of course, you were 
probably somewhere else at the time...but I'll give Texas the benefit of the 
doubt anyway.
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/29/2013 2:42 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 
 If you don't think this is a place to learn anything why do you keep trying 
to teach us all stuff, Ricardo? I've done my best to dumb it down so you and 
some others can understand the mechanics of consciousness, Ann. If it's not 
simple enough, I'll try to make it a little easier to understand. Where should 
I start? First, it's not my job to answer questions - my job is to question 
answers. Where did you get the idea that I was trying to teach you anything?
 
 
Yes, on second thought I see you're just working through something here. Good 
luck with that but could you do it in one post instead of wasting so much band 
width or whatever it is you lie awake at night worrying about when people don't 
snip? Oh, and don't let bOb bother you too much; guys like him just lack 
empathy for the, shall we just say, challenged. He'll leave you alone 
eventually so just hang in there; he's bound to get tired of playing his little 
game.
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/29/2013 2:45 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 
 BoB really did get you going, Regardez-vous. Well, it is kind of slow around 
here today. That is, until you opened your big pie hole. LoL!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/29/2013 4:47 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

could  you do it in one post instead of wasting so much band width


Well, If I did that, Ann what would you have to read?


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 12/29/2013 6:41 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Wolf Baiter
 
  You are showing your vicious side.
 
  Obviously you are trying to usurp the
  throne so you can now declare yourself
  as the Ankle Bite Queen.
 
It looks like Judy took the day off, so Ann is just taking up the slack. 
Give her a few years and she may improve.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Share Long
Richard, I think they say the corpse pose is so difficult because it's so 
simple and we westerners like to make things complicated and be doing, doing, 
doing! Anyway, I think you and Rita have mastered it. Congratulations and keep 
up the good work!







On Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:36 PM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
On 12/29/2013 1:52 PM, Share Long wrote:
 LOL but Richard I have heard that the corpse pose is actually the 
 hardest to do.
At Bob's age, just finding the mat is probably the hardest thing to do. 
It's not so much the laying down in the corpse pose that is so difficult 
- it's the getting back up into a standing position again that is so 
tricky. LoL!

P.S. One trick about doing the Shavasana Asana (corpse pose) is to do it 
on a really high bed with four sturdy posts at each corner. That way, 
you can grab onto one of the posts and then you can swing your legs 
around off the side of the bed and you are half way to a standing 
position. Then, all you need is a hand and a tug from someone like Rita, 
and you're upright. It works for me!



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-29 Thread Share Long
Richard, I can empathize. I was thrilled to discover that Judy has also read 
the novels of Susan Howatch, a favorite author of mine. I asked her who her 
favorite Howatch character is. She responded with a putdown containing 
references to teens and Harry Potter! I still think she needs a pitta pacifying 
diet.





On Saturday, December 28, 2013 7:52 PM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
On 12/28/2013 6:44 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

I learned long ago that interesting is in the eye of the beholder.
Apparently you don't find anything interesting that is posted here, except 
Barry pushing some buttons; the post count; and posting some macros. I thought 
fer sure you'd make a reply to my comments on Wagner. Go figure.



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Share Long
Ann, it was Steve who came up with the fun idea of Poster of the Year. And turq 
came up with FFL Santa of the Year. Both for Richard and I totally agree 
because, well for one thing, there's such a range to his posts and he's usually 
lighthearted and kind as well as being humorous. 







On Friday, December 27, 2013 10:54 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:


 easy error to make, if it indeed it is an error, considering that you have 
been the number one weekly poster with our without limits for going on 8 years 
or so. 


No, it's not. It's just a bit of smarmy nastiness from you. Even Barry's counts 
of high posters were well under 200 a week.

 why don't let us know what your high number has been so we can see how close 
it is to 235. 

You think I kept track of every week's total for eight years to see how high I 
could go? Why don't you shove that notion where the sun don't shine? How stupid 
can you get?

You're welcome to check it out yourself. I'm not going to take many hours to go 
through 400-some weeks, obviously, just to satisfy your malignant curiosity. 

Or, hey, get Barry to do it for you.

My guess is that it was never higher than 170, and even that would have been 
very rare. More importantly, neither I nor any of the other high posters ever 
made posts just for the sake of making posts, which is what we're seeing now.

Here is the thing. Ricky has no other real life. He obviously does not get the 
accolades he desires at home or at work. He is a nobody. But lo and behold 
here, at FFL, he is asomebody. He is afforded respect and has even been named 
Poster of the Year by Sharon, so this really must mean something. Even Bawwy 
has deemed him worthy of adulation based on the fact that he himself has not 
been able to silence you but, in his estimation, Ricardo is getting the better 
of you. This is Bawwy's astute analysis, this is the best he can do to analyze 
the situation (no wonder he's run back to Leiden with his vestigial tail 
between his scrawny legs after his short stint in the City of Lights). But, 
more importantly, Texas Rick is loving the attention, he imagines himself the 
victor, the torchbearer of freedom, freedom from the tyranny of one solitary 
woman posting from the quiet of her abode in coastal New Jersey. A woman who 
has busied herself with investigating the
 finer, more refined things in this life - art, great music, literature, 
philosphy, religion. Someone who doesn't require lots of white space between 
sentences to understand them. Someone who abhors a vacuum - between the ears. 
So, keep it up Judy (and I know you will). Because despite the railing, the 
gnashing of teeth, 235 of Ricky's interminable babblings are worth about 4 
posts of yours. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Share Long
Steve, good points both about the amount of posts and original material. I 
amazed at how many good posts Richard creates. But he has been at this for a 
long time, is retired, etc. Nonetheless, he gives spiritual info and music info 
and humor and everyday stories complete with photos. And he's kind, saying that 
Judy and Ann and Emily are probably nice in person. I agree with you that he is 
Poster of the Year.

But how is the skiing? Are the villages beautiful with Christmas lights, etc?





On Friday, December 27, 2013 10:41 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com 
steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Is there really much difference between 150 posts a week and 250?  I'm not sure 
that there is.  But if you want to keep score, I would bet that more of 
Richard's posts deal with original content than what we are seeing from you.  
Just say'n.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/27/2013 9:34 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:

But, yea, I think it is a good thing.
Years ago, back in 1996, when the internet was relativly new, I got a 
modem with a dial-up connection (1400 bps) and went to Compuserve to 
look around. A few week later I discovered Usenet and Deja News stated 
by a few pals in Austin, Texas. Deja was a pretty neat news reader back 
then. I started reading posts by Barry, Judy, Lawson and Lon P. Stacks 
and a few others. It was interesting, but when I browsed to the site in 
message view, most of the posts had titles that were pretty inane, 
almost dumb. And, the forum was almost overrun with the anti-TMers and 
Maharishi-bashers.


I was trying to write a book about spiritual paths around that time, 
from my handwritten notes I had been saving since 1968. When I got my 
first computer (a DOS IBM PC) I started to digitize some notes and some 
poetry I had written. After reading the alt.meditation.transcendental 
site for awhile I decided to try and contact some old friends that might 
be subscribers to the list, and I posted a few messages to the group. I 
was met with mostly derision and hostility by the antis and not much 
support except from BillyG, another early adopter of TM, that had been 
around in the old SRM days and early SIMS days at 1015 Gayley.


I started posting a few more notes with catchy subject lines like TM: 
It's Not Waht Yo Think. My idea was not so much to display my 
knowledge, but to just to provide some counter-balance to the almost 
rabid messages of the antis. I wanted to at least to have the site look 
interesting for any TMers that might stumble on the group. I had been 
reading some ISKCON news groups around that time and was impressed by 
the almost scholarly discussions about the Hare Krishna Movement. In 
comparison, the alt.m.t. group looked like a laughing stock, except for 
Judy, Barry, and Lawson and sometimes Delia and BillyG.


Then, I started adding some comments and continued with posting my notes 
and reviews of some of the books I had read and a few personal 
experiences I had with teachers. It got to be a challenge and a hobby, 
and I was getting my notes in order for my book. In the face of a of of 
negativity, I just continued along trying to ignore the neganauts as 
best I could. What I wanted was some feedback so I could re-write my 
notes for more accuracy and nuance. Most of my stuff sucked, but it was 
fun to post after work and on weekends and I learned a whole lot about 
posting, writing, debating, and the mechanics of consciousness too.


So, it's been about fourteen years now - I don't post much to alt.m.t. 
anymore, although it's an open forum with no moderators. But, that site 
has been mostly taken over by spammers and there's no one left to talk 
to - Lon P. Stacks is dead (RIP) and most of the interesting informants 
came over here to FFL anyway. I've got at least fifteen more years to 
post (knock on wood) and my book is looking better every year. Maybe I 
can get it into shape by the time I'm dead! You can read some of my 
stuff on my website: Reflections on the Transcendent (it needs some 
updating but I'm really busy these days):


http://www.rwilliams.us/quest/


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams
Yeah, what an utter idiot you are Steve, posting a parody like that! 
You're just being stupid and malicious. And, it's real dumb of you to 
post a lot of messages just for the the sake of making a lot of posts 
that don't say anything. Like, one-liners, macros, and  cartoons of 
cowboys with six-shooters. You know better!


On 12/27/2013 9:50 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


What an utter idiot you are. Either that, or you know better and are 
just being stupidly malicious.



I never came close to 235 posts a week. I don't think anybody did. 
Nobody was ever intent on making as many posts as possible just for 
the sake of making a lot of posts even if they didn't say anything.



 Probably not a record Ann,  I'm guessing that belongs to Judy.


And this is even dumber:


  But, yea, I think it is a good thing. 





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread authfriend
 Steve, good points both about the amount of posts and original material. 

 

 Actually they're RELY STOOOPID points. But I wouldn't expect you 
to be able to tell the difference.
 

  I amazed at how many good posts Richard creates. But he has been at this 
for a long time, is retired, etc. 

 

 Actually I've been at this for longer than he has, and I think the vast 
majority of his posts are crap (not even counting the incredibly nasty, lying 
trolls about me).
 

  Nonetheless, he gives spiritual info and music info and humor and everyday 
stories complete with photos. And he's kind, saying that Judy and Ann and Emily 
are probably nice in person. I agree with you that he is Poster of the Year. 
 

 I think you and Richard and Steve and maybe even Barry should go start your 
own forum. That way you could just appreciate each other to death without 
annoying the rest of us with your trivia.
 

 You're all probably nice in person as well. I guess that makes me kind too, 
huh?
 

 guffaw
 








Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Ann, it was Steve who came up with the fun idea of Poster of the Year. And 
turq came up with FFL Santa of the Year. Both for Richard and I totally agree 
because, well for one thing, there's such a range to his posts and he's usually 
lighthearted and kind as well as being humorous. 

 OK, I could go along with the kind thing if you want to show me 5 examples 
of his having shown 5 different people kindness. Quotes, of course, would be 
useful.
 Light hearted? Maybe lightweight. And humorous? Sometimes, but not when he 
usually means to be.
But I'm happy to be shown how kind Ricky is, and you're just the woman for 
the job. The quotes don't have to be in chronological order. Space breaks are 
optional, I'm good with lots of words all in a row.


 

 
 
 On Friday, December 27, 2013 10:54 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... 
wrote:
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

  easy error to make, if it indeed it is an error, considering that you have 
been the number one weekly poster with our without limits for going on 8 years 
or so. 

 

 No, it's not. It's just a bit of smarmy nastiness from you. Even Barry's 
counts of high posters were well under 200 a week.
 
 

  why don't let us know what your high number has been so we can see how 
close it is to 235. 
 

 You think I kept track of every week's total for eight years to see how high I 
could go? Why don't you shove that notion where the sun don't shine? How stupid 
can you get?
 

 You're welcome to check it out yourself. I'm not going to take many hours to 
go through 400-some weeks, obviously, just to satisfy your malignant curiosity. 
 

 Or, hey, get Barry to do it for you.
 

 My guess is that it was never higher than 170, and even that would have been 
very rare. More importantly, neither I nor any of the other high posters ever 
made posts just for the sake of making posts, which is what we're seeing now.
 

 Here is the thing. Ricky has no other real life. He obviously does not get the 
accolades he desires at home or at work. He is a nobody. But lo and behold 
here, at FFL, he is a somebody. He is afforded respect and has even been named 
Poster of the Year by Sharon, so this really must mean something. Even Bawwy 
has deemed him worthy of adulation based on the fact that he himself has not 
been able to silence you but, in his estimation, Ricardo is getting the better 
of you. This is Bawwy's astute analysis, this is the best he can do to analyze 
the situation (no wonder he's run back to Leiden with his vestigial tail 
between his scrawny legs after his short stint in the City of Lights). But, 
more importantly, Texas Rick is loving the attention, he imagines himself the 
victor, the torchbearer of freedom, freedom from the tyranny of one solitary 
woman posting from the quiet of her abode in coastal New Jersey. A woman who 
has busied herself with investigating the finer, more refined things in this 
life - art, great music, literature, philosphy, religion. Someone who doesn't 
require lots of white space between sentences to understand them. Someone who 
abhors a vacuum - between the ears. So, keep it up Judy (and I know you will). 
Because despite the railing, the gnashing of teeth, 235 of Ricky's interminable 
babblings are worth about 4 posts of yours. 
 




 
 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/27/2013 10:29 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:



My guess is that it was never higher than 170, and even that would 
have been very rare. More importantly, neither I nor any of the other 
high posters ever made posts just for the sake of making posts, which 
is what we're seeing now.


You really told off Steve, Judy. Good work! But, how many posts did you 
send up this past month that were interesting to read? One, two or 
three? And, how many posts did you send up this week that were 
interesting to read? My guess is one, maybe.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Steve, good points both about the amount of posts and original material. I 
amazed at how many good posts Richard creates. But he has been at this for a 
long time, is retired, etc. Nonetheless, he gives spiritual info and music info 
and humor and everyday stories complete with photos. And he's kind, saying that 
Judy and Ann and Emily are probably nice in person. I agree with you that he is 
Poster of the Year.
 

 Yes, no problem with that. If we were still on 50 per week posting limits old 
Regardez-vous has just posted over 5 weeks within one week. Do you not find 
this strange when just after the limits were removed Barry was giving people 
shit for going over 50 posts per week as if this was a sign of some sickness? 
Barry must be about to call the little men in the white coats to take Regardo 
away any second now. 

But how is the skiing? Are the villages beautiful with Christmas lights, etc?
 

 I would guess the skiing is all downhill and the villages are splendorous with 
lights twinkling in all colors and hues.
 

 
 
 On Friday, December 27, 2013 10:41 PM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... 
wrote:
 
   Is there really much difference between 150 posts a week and 250?  I'm not 
sure that there is.  But if you want to keep score, I would bet that more of 
Richard's posts deal with original content than what we are seeing from you.  
Just say'n.
 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 








Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/27/2013 10:41 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
Is there really much difference between 150 posts a week and 250?  I'm 
not sure that there is.  But if you want to keep score, I would bet 
that more of Richard's posts deal with original content than what we 
are seeing from you.  Just say'n.
It only takes me about two or three minutes to read all the daily 
messages posted to FFL. I get mine in email using Thunderbird, so they 
come in sequentially for easy reading when I check my other mail. If 
you're like Barry and read in Message View, it takes only about ten 
seconds. There's hardly anything, anywhere to read about what TMers are 
doing these days and the comings and goings of TMers.


I've posted over 10,000 messages to news forums in the past fourteen 
years, and about half are on-topic messages. I've been reading news 
groups since 1996 - alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga. 
alt.meditation. alt.casteneda.dreams, alt.tantra, and 
alt.buddha.short.fat.guy. And, I read at least three newspapers every 
day - we like to keep up with current events. Information junkies are 
voracious readers and it's almost impossible to provide enough for them 
to read on a single news forum like FFL. Go figure.


And we read a book or three every week. We are only about two blocks 
from a public library where we can get books through the inter-library 
loan system. And, I watch some TV too - news and Hulu and Netflix. Every 
Saturday night we have friends over to talk about stuff and listen to 
music on our awesome  Yamaha sound system with the Infinity 
floor-standing speakers - rock, folk, jazz, classical or world music. We 
really enjoy YouTube with the Google Chromecast on the big screen in the 
living room.





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/27/2013 10:54 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
Here is the thing. Ricky has no other real life. He obviously does not 
get the accolades he desires at home or at work. He is a nobody. But 
lo and behold here, at FFL, he is asomebody. He is afforded respect 
and has even been named Poster of the Year by Sharon, so this really 
must mean something. Even Bawwy has deemed him worthy of adulation 
based on the fact that he himself has not been able to silence you 
but, in his estimation, Ricardo is getting the better of you. This is 
Bawwy's astute analysis, this is the best he can do to analyze the 
situation (no wonder he's run back to Leiden with his vestigial tail 
between his scrawny legs after his short stint in the City of Lights). 
But, more importantly, Texas Rick is loving the attention, he imagines 
himself the victor, the torchbearer of freedom, freedom from the 
tyranny of one solitary woman posting from the quiet of her abode in 
coastal New Jersey. A woman who has busied herself with investigating 
the finer, more refined things in this life - art, great music, 
literature, philosphy, religion. Someone who doesn't require lots of 
white space between sentences to understand them. Someone who abhors a 
vacuum - between the ears. So, keep it up Judy (and I know you will). 
Because despite the railing, the gnashing of teeth, 235 of Ricky's 
interminable babblings are worth about 4 posts of yours. 
You are sounding JELLOS. Some people just feel better when they have 
someone to talk to. This is supposed to be a discussion about life. I 
believe in LIFE - what it does to you, and what you do back. Go figure.


WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE ME SOME SPIRITUAL HELP! For Gawd's sake - 
please help me!


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/27/2013 10:56 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:


why don't let us know what your high number has been so we can see how 
close it is to 235.



Oh Steve, you are like a gnat going after something much, much bigger. 
I don't know what happened along the way to compel you to side with 
the genetically scuffed but, by gum, you do.


You friggin' gnat, Steve! Why don't you just keep your big pie hole shut 
about stuff. All this posting is taxing your brain. Get a life before 
you get all scuffed up by Ann and Judy!


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/27/2013 10:54 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 
 Here is the thing. Ricky has no other real life. He obviously does not get the 
accolades he desires at home or at work. He is a nobody. But lo and behold 
here, at FFL, he is a somebody. He is afforded respect and has even been named 
Poster of the Year by Sharon, so this really must mean something. Even Bawwy 
has deemed him worthy of adulation based on the fact that he himself has not 
been able to silence you but, in his estimation, Ricardo is getting the better 
of you. This is Bawwy's astute analysis, this is the best he can do to analyze 
the situation (no wonder he's run back to Leiden with his vestigial tail 
between his scrawny legs after his short stint in the City of Lights). But, 
more importantly, Texas Rick is loving the attention, he imagines himself the 
victor, the torchbearer of freedom, freedom from the tyranny of one solitary 
woman posting from the quiet of her abode in coastal New Jersey. A woman who 
has busied herself with investigating the finer, more refined things in this 
life - art, great music, literature, philosphy, religion. Someone who doesn't 
require lots of white space between sentences to understand them. Someone who 
abhors a vacuum - between the ears. So, keep it up Judy (and I know you will). 
Because despite the railing, the gnashing of teeth, 235 of Ricky's interminable 
babblings are worth about 4 posts of yours.  You are sounding JELLOS. Some 
people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. This is supposed to 
be a discussion about life. I believe in LIFE - what it does to you, and what 
you do back. Go figure. 
 
 WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE ME SOME SPIRITUAL HELP! For Gawd's sake - please 
help me!
 
 What flavor of Jello might that be? And I told you before, Regardo, there is 
no Gawd. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/27/2013 10:56 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 
 why don't let us know what your high number has been so we can see how close 
it is to 235.
 
 
 Oh Steve, you are like a gnat going after something much, much bigger. I don't 
know what happened along the way to compel you to side with the genetically 
scuffed but, by gum, you do.
 You friggin' gnat, Steve! Why don't you just keep your big pie hole shut about 
stuff. All this posting is taxing your brain. Get a life before you get all 
scuffed up by Ann and Judy!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/28/2013 7:39 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Oh, I know. You must be referring to the many scores of troll posts in 
which he's told original lies about me, right?

It's ALL a parody about Judy. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread steve.sundur
Hi Share.
 

 I took two days off from skiing to get some business done.  But my sister 
arrived last night, so the family is getting ready for some skiing and boarding.
 

 The town of Aspen looks very festive, and the village of Snowmass looks like 
Emerald City as you are driving up to it.
 

 
https://www.google.com/search?q=snowmass+village+at+nightrlz=1C1OPRB_enUS545US554espv=210es_sm=122tbm=ischsource=iuimgil=BpVsnW3316bRWM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcSaOMb8_c7YYUeqEyCAPD909vudGKnQUNaqaokVnX9lgvdxnKWaqg%253B450%253B320%253B5GP4gnphuyvcqM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.shutterstock.com%25252Fpic-162710%25252Fstock-photo-snowmass-village-at-night.htmlsa=Xei=UfK-UszrLJXioASq74HIDwved=0CEsQ9QEwAAbiw=1008bih=638#facrc=_imgrc=BpVsnW3316bRWM%3A%3B5GP4gnphuyvcqM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimage.shutterstock.com%252Fdisplay_pic_with_logo%252F4348%252F4348%252C1108848702%252C2%252Fstock-photo-snowmass-village-at-night-162710.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.shutterstock.com%252Fpic-162710%252Fstock-photo-snowmass-village-at-night.html%3B450%3B320
 
https://www.google.com/search?q=snowmass+village+at+nightrlz=1C1OPRB_enUS545US554espv=210es_sm=122tbm=ischsource=iuimgil=BpVsnW3316bRWM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcSaOMb8_c7YYUeqEyCAPD909vudGKnQUNaqaokVnX9lgvdxnKWaqg%253B450%253B320%253B5GP4gnphuyvcqM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.shutterstock.com%25252Fpic-162710%25252Fstock-photo-snowmass-village-at-night.htmlsa=Xei=UfK-UszrLJXioASq74HIDwved=0CEsQ9QEwAAbiw=1008bih=638#facrc=_imgrc=BpVsnW3316bRWM%3A%3B5GP4gnphuyvcqM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimage.shutterstock.com%252Fdisplay_pic_with_logo%252F4348%252F4348%252C1108848702%252C2%252Fstock-photo-snowmass-village-at-night-162710.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.shutterstock.com%252Fpic-162710%252Fstock-photo-snowmass-village-at-night.html%3B450%3B320



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Share Long
Thanks, Steve, the photos are wonderful. Have fun!





On Saturday, December 28, 2013 9:47 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com 
steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Hi Share.

I took two days off from skiing to get some business done.  But my sister 
arrived last night, so the family is getting ready for some skiing and boarding.

The town of Aspen looks very festive, and the village of Snowmass looks like 
Emerald City as you are driving up to it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=snowmass+village+at+nightrlz=1C1OPRB_enUS545US554espv=210es_sm=122tbm=ischsource=iuimgil=BpVsnW3316bRWM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcSaOMb8_c7YYUeqEyCAPD909vudGKnQUNaqaokVnX9lgvdxnKWaqg%253B450%253B320%253B5GP4gnphuyvcqM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.shutterstock.com%25252Fpic-162710%25252Fstock-photo-snowmass-village-at-night.htmlsa=Xei=UfK-UszrLJXioASq74HIDwved=0CEsQ9QEwAAbiw=1008bih=638#facrc=_imgrc=BpVsnW3316bRWM%3A%3B5GP4gnphuyvcqM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimage.shutterstock.com%252Fdisplay_pic_with_logo%252F4348%252F4348%252C1108848702%252C2%252Fstock-photo-snowmass-village-at-night-162710.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.shutterstock.com%252Fpic-162710%252Fstock-photo-snowmass-village-at-night.html%3B450%3B320



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/28/2013 7:39 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
* **And you define original content how? 100 Greatest Artists of 
Hard Rock? **

** **Great Country Classics?*

Well, I thought fer sure that my post entitled Classical Masterpieces 
would get a comment from Judy, since she seemed interested in opera and 
stuff, but it looks like I was mistaken about that. Judy did correct me 
on my typo about the QWERTY keyboard. Judy probably doesn't enjoy rock 
or country music, although, she did state that there are good examples 
of music in every music genre, in response to Ann's snark about people 
from Texas enjoying a Willie Nelson tune like On the Road Again.


Maybe Judy doesn't seem to like country music because Barry likes it. 
Hell, I thought everyone listened to 'A Prarie Home Companion' with 
Garrison Keillor on NPR. Go figure.


A Prairie Home Companion:
http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/

The only on-topic message posted by me that Judy commented in years was 
about the one where she once posted an inane comment about the TM 
mantras NOT being the nicknames of the Hindu personal gods, and then she 
even denied that she had posted that comment! I wonder if Judy has 
actually ever read any comments on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? She one 
posted that she had read Eliade's Yoga: Immortality and Freedom. Go figure.


Madhusuudana's definition of dhaaraNaa:
http://groups.yahoo.com/FairfieldLife/364085/ 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/364085





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/28/2013 7:51 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 Steve, good points both about the amount of posts and original 
material. I amazed at how many good posts Richard creates. But he has 
been at this for a long time, is retired, etc. Nonetheless, he gives 
spiritual info and music info and humor and everyday stories complete 
with photos. And he's kind, saying that Judy and Ann and Emily are 
probably nice in person. I agree with you that he is Poster of the Year.


*/I think that's fair, but only if Judy gets voted Loser Of The Year

Think about it -- reduced to a gibbering, macro-using ego in total 
defensive mode -- and brought to this state by Richard and Share. It's 
her worst PR nightmare. /*
It's kind of sad in a way, when you think about it: reduced to a facile 
instrument for parody by Robin, Barry, Richard, and Share. It just 
doesn't get any better than this, folks!


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/28/2013 8:41 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
I think you and Richard and Steve and maybe even Barry should go start 
your own forum. That way you could just appreciate each other to death 
without annoying the rest of us with your trivia.
This is OUR forum, Ms Stein. You are the informant that's being 
annoying.  It would be a lot easier on everyone, if you would leave and 
go back to Google Groups - you already know how to log in over there, 
and so it would be easier on most of the folks over here, instead of 
having to learn a new system for posting. Who invited you here in the 
first place? This is a forum for TMers, not for ankle-biting posers. YOU 
are what we came over here to get AWAY from. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/28/2013 9:15 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:


WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE ME SOME SPIRITUAL HELP! For Gawd's sake
- please help me!

What flavor of Jello might that be?



Rainbow colored.


And I told you before, Regardo, there is no Gawd.


THE HELL YOU SAY!!!


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Share Long
Lawdy, Richard, such language! (-:





On Saturday, December 28, 2013 10:28 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
On 12/28/2013 9:15 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE ME SOME SPIRITUAL HELP! For Gawd's sake - please help 
me!

What flavor of Jello might that be?
Rainbow colored.


And I told you before, Regardo, there is no Gawd.
THE HELL YOU SAY!!!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/28/2013 10:36 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
*/It's almost as if the people focusing on other people and their 
long-standing grudges against them so much that they don't have any 
lives of their own. Almost. /*

*/
/*
* I don't respect any of you as thinking, feeling or courageous human 
beings. It's that simple.

*
Look, Ann, we got rid of your cult leader a long time ago and we don't 
need you to take up the slack for Judy - it's old news about Barry. All 
we're concerned about now is what any of us are doing to make this group 
a better place to discuss the mechanics of consciousness. I'll be saying 
the same thing to Judy: thanks for all your help - but we're grown up 
now and don't need any baby sitters anymore to tell us what to do. Your 
whole reason for being here is finished - all you're doing now is being 
a pest and trying to block the free flow of information.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/28/2013 12:52 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*Bob, don't give up on me--I want to watch some of the videos you've 
posted for me before responding to our latest round, but I haven't had 
time to do that yet. I'm hoping I can manage it this evening.*
I think this may be considered pandering on news forums. Without a short 
description of the content of the link, you might want to think twice 
about clicking on it. It's considered to be bad form to just post a link 
without making a single comment on what the link is about. But, you 
already knew this.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread bobpriced


 

---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/28/2013 12:52 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 Bob, don't give up on me--I want to watch some of the videos you've posted for 
me before responding to our latest round, but I haven't had time to do that 
yet. I'm hoping I can manage it this evening. I think this may be considered 
pandering on news forums. Without a short description of the content of the 
link, you might want to think twice about clicking on it. It's considered to be 
bad form to just post a link without making a single comment on what the link 
is about. But, you already knew this.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odd8Zdhuj9o 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odd8Zdhuj9o
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Share Long
Steve, actually I did not originate that advice. I read it first in a post of 
noozguru's and then I passed it along where I thought it applicable. I can't 
remember to whom noozguru was writing it.

PS I really enjoyed your most recent post to Bob. Very much your style, 
balanced and thoughtful and worded in a straightforward manner.





On Saturday, December 28, 2013 5:37 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com 
steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Barry,
 
I feel I must mention this before the close of the year.
 
Best Advice of the Year on FFL, bar none, was from Share to Judy, Judy, it's 
just a chat room
 
Can you imagine how transformative that would be if Judy could take that to 
heart?


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/28/2013 6:44 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

I'm truly sorry you are so undiscerning.
There's not much to discern about the same macro posted twelve times, 
except who and why it was created. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/28/2013 6:44 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

I learned long ago that interesting is in the eye of the beholder.
Apparently you don't find anything interesting that is posted here, 
except Barry pushing some buttons; the post count; and posting some 
macros. I thought fer sure you'd make a reply to my comments on Wagner. 
Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/28/2013 7:00 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
In any case, Yahoo Groups aren't really chat rooms, they're Web or 
Internet forums:
The term chat room, or chatroom, is primarily used to describe any form 
of synchronous conferencing, occasionally even asynchronous 
conferencing. The term can thus mean any technology ranging from 
real-time online chat and virtual interaction with strangers over 
instant messaging and online forums to fully immersive graphical social 
environments.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_room


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC

2013-12-27 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/27/2013 8:59 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

235. Is that a record? Is this a good thing?

It's a good thing if you like to read discussion group messages.