Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying students in Panama to create invincibility for the nation

2008-05-21 Thread Vaj
On May 20, 2008, at 8:50 PM, boo_lives wrote: I bet I could poll thousands of common men asking them to list their goals in life and not one would say becoming invincible. Oh come on, even if we offered you your own phone booth?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying students in Panama to create invincibility for the nation

2008-05-21 Thread Peter
--- sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had it up to my seventh chakra with this rant over the last several decades, Invincibility, invincibility what a pile of vedic cow droppings. Its just so silly. first,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying students in Panama to create invincibility for the nation

2008-05-21 Thread Peter
--- sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying students in Panama to create invincibility for the nation

2008-05-21 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I've had it up to my seventh chakra with this rant

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread Vaj
On Nov 29, 2006, at 12:55 AM, pranamoocher wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip And, no, of course

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 10:44 PM, sparaig wrote: Guffaw. TM researchers have never mentioned 'the fourth pranayama in any research or discussion that I have heard. Of course, I notice you neatly snipt the original Yoga Sutra context where the term fourth occurs in the context of pranayama

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 10:49 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:39 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 4:29 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 10:45 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 8:55 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: It's a key part of the YS. jstein wrote: But for some odd reason, Vaj is unable to cite it. Vaj isn't the only

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread llundrub
What was it you wanted to know? -Exactly. What was the point of all this tattle telling?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread Vaj
On Nov 29, 2006, at 9:15 AM, llundrub wrote: What was it you wanted to know? -Exactly. What was the point of all this tattle telling? Who knows.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread llundrub
! - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video On Nov 29, 2006, at 9:15 AM, llundrub wrote: What was it you wanted to know? -Exactly. What was the point

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread Vaj
On Nov 29, 2006, at 2:09 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So where is the research on the fourth done by serious scientists?' Some old research and more modern research on tummo (inner heat) meditation which mastery of requires

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 2:07 AM, anywho108 wrote: This brings up something I've been pondering about yogic flying which of course isn't flying at all. Although I've had the sutras for many many years, I would like to hear some explanation of exactly what bouncing around, or shaking, or whatever

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 10:50 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: Dude, you've never even *done* the flying technique! lol! Not only have I, I was a successful hopper. What you have written has nothing specific to do with the flying sutra. Pranayama!? That is just absurd- I did pranayama before meditation

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 2:11 PM, nablusos108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 10:50 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: Dude, you've never even *done* the flying technique! lol! Not only have I, I was a successful hopper. In what centre

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 1:58 PM, nablusos108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 2:07 AM, anywho108 wrote: This brings up something I've been pondering about yogic flying which of course isn't flying at all. Although I've had the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 4:18 PM, sparaig wrote: The yogattava upanishad mentions pranayama just before it mentions levitation. It is unclear TO ME at least as to whether or not this is meant to say that the only way to perform levitation is using pranayama or even if it is meant to imply that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 4:29 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 10:50 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: Dude, you've never even *done* the flying technique! lol! Not only have I, I was a successful hopper. What you have written

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 5:46 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 4:18 PM, sparaig wrote: The yogattava upanishad mentions pranayama just before it mentions levitation. It is unclear TO ME at least as to whether or not this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread llundrub
Crowley levitated for two hours after doing serious kumbhakam. As detailed in his small book on yoga. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video On Nov

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
He also claimed to find Alan Bennett locked in padmasana, tipped over from levitating and landing wrong. On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:55 PM, llundrub wrote: Crowley levitated for two hours after doing serious kumbhakam. As detailed in his small book on yoga.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:55 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 5:46 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 4:18 PM, sparaig wrote: The yogattava upanishad

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 8:55 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: It's a key part of the YS. jstein wrote: But for some odd reason, Vaj is unable to cite it. Vaj isn't the only person on this forum having trouble citing things. I prefer oral transmission to written--but if you wanted a written

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:55 PM, sparaig wrote: Rather a cryptic sutra. Not to yogis from the tradition. If it's not crystal clear, question the person telling or selling.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:39 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 4:29 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 10:50 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: Dude, you've never

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying ???

2006-07-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying ??? on 7/5/06 10:09 PM, johnlasher20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Michael Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually, I recall the claim as stating just prior

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying ???

2006-07-06 Thread Vaj
On Jul 6, 2006, at 7:11 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip " Making a poster that gives the appearance of the eventual outcome of the Yogic FLying technique (at least in MMY's belief) is a subtle way of establishing in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/18/05 2:49 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/17/05 1:43 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
Chocolate or vanilla? On Oct 18, 2005, at 11:29 AM, sparaig wrote: > How interesting. I was having flavor experiences > for every one of > the sutras at one point or another during the > course.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/18/05 2:12 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A more useful discussion I think is the spiritual, mental, emotional and physical effect of long term shakti stimulation that goes on during YFing. My current view is that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Vaj
On Oct 18, 2005, at 3:12 PM, markmeredith2002 wrote:A more useful discussion I think is the spiritual, mental, emotional and physical effect of long term shakti stimulation that goes on during YFing.  My current view is that short term it can break some rigid boundaries in all those areas for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/18/05 2:23 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I noticed when I used to go to the dome is that many of the long flyers seem quite bored with their practice. They spend a lot of time with eyes open, looking around, fooling around, having little pillow fights and playing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/18/05 2:23 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I noticed when I used to go to the dome is that many of the long flyers seem quite bored with their practice. They spend a lot of time with eyes open, looking around,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Peter
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 18, 2005, at 3:12 PM, markmeredith2002 wrote: A more useful discussion I think is the spiritual, mental, emotional and physical effect of long term shakti stimulation that goes on during YFing. My current view is that short term it can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/18/05 2:29 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly. Go do something else. Don't waste your time. It's like the people who sleep in the dome all the time. Just bizarre. As if they get some sort of cosmic credit for showing-up. I have a friend who was terrified of getting kicked

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
I have a friend who went to the dome *because* it's such a great place to sleep, she said. Cured her insomnia every time. :) Sal On Oct 18, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Peter wrote: Exactly. Go do something else. Don't waste your time. It's like the people who sleep in the dome all the time. Just

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Paula Youmans
Most I hear of warn of this to prevent a premature crown opening. It can really land you in the nut house if you arent ready for itand Ive also heard of possible death though Ive never known anyone who actually dies because of it. * Seems like all yogis have this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Vaj
On Oct 18, 2005, at 3:31 PM, Peter wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 18, 2005, at 3:12 PM, markmeredith2002 wrote: A more useful discussion I think is the spiritual, mental, emotional and physical effect of long term shakti stimulation that goes on during YFing.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/18/05 4:52 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter I was back in FF a few years ago for a year after a 14 year absence. I went to the dome for the first month I was back. The most amazing thing to me was that many of the same people who had been sleeping during program 14

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying, was: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-18 Thread Peter
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/18/05 2:23 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I noticed when I used to go to the dome is