Holistic Vets

2008-02-20 Thread Sue Koren
Hi, All - First off, Lynn, I am so glad to hear Boo Boo is doing better. I had a cat who had fluid removed and she did not do anywhere near so well afterwards. Don't give up on that little fighter any time soon! I am thinking about taking Buzz to a Holistic Vet. When I questioned my regular

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2008-02-20 Thread Lynne
Sue, I spoke with Karen at length last night and she recommended something called Factor One. I'm gonna call the supplier today. My vet has now told me that interferon will not help BooBoo as it is too late. I've decided that I will do what I can within reason to help BooBoo keep comfortable.

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2008-02-20 Thread Sue Koren
Lynne, I know what you mean about the vets - my vet acted like she thinks I'm a pain for even asking about preventative measures. And it has always seemed like they considered dogs to be more importent. WE know better. What is the Factor One and what is it suppose to do? Buzz is still pretty

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2008-02-20 Thread Jane Lyons
Lynne I am thinking of you and BooBoo. I know how stressful this is for the both of you. He is on his own path and is so lucky to know what caring and love feels like. Take care of yourself. Jane On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Lynne wrote: Sue, I spoke with Karen at length last night and

Re: BooBoo today

2008-02-20 Thread Belinda Sauro
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2008-02-20 Thread Lynne
Thank you Jane. I think of all our members and what they are experiencing as well. I think it makes us all better people and caregivers. Honestly I think the vet was wrong to suggest to us as soon as Boo was diagnosed that we consider euthanasia. It would have been far harder on me if I had

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2008-02-20 Thread Marylyn
Try checking out http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ Dr. Maier has a lot of experience with FeLV+ and may be able to give you some ideas. There are homeopathics that work wonders. I don't know what Factor One is but I have used numerous rememdies from her and from Dr. E A Boswell in

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2008-02-20 Thread Jane Lyons
Why doesn't Karen come onto the list and share Factor One? I think there are rules that prevent soliciting products on a list such as this. We are all vulnerable, and subject to wishful thinking. I hope that Factor One is a remedy, but I think that it should be made available to the list,

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2008-02-20 Thread Jane Lyons
Transfer Factor is well known to the list Lynne. Many people are using it with great results. Karen can talk about it openly on the list. It is a great product. Best Jane On Feb 20, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Lynne wrote: You are absolutely correct Jane. Again, it's called Transfer Factor. I am

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2008-02-20 Thread laurieskatz
We used this for Isabella for awhile. Not sure what all helped as we did many things. L - Original Message - From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Holistic Vets You are absolutely correct Jane. Again,

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2008-02-20 Thread Lynne
You are absolutely correct Jane. Again, it's called Transfer Factor. I am desparate so am willing to put out a few extra bucks but you are totally correct about us being vulnerable and easy prey for some unscrupulous vendors. Lynne - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2008-02-20 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I can't find anything on Factor One in a (quick) google search. Was this a typo in the original email? But certainly there is tons in our (felineleukemia.org) archives on the use of Transfer Factor as an immune system support. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2008-02-20 Thread Lynne
I just placed an order for it Jane. It's probably the least expensive thing I've had to put money out for lately!! Unfortunately it will take 8 to 10 days to get here, that is if there isn't some crap problem at the border. Lynne - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Holistic Vets `LYNNE want my TF?

2008-02-20 Thread laurieskatz
Lynne, is it the Feline Complex Transfer Factor that you ordered? If yes, I have an unopened container that I would be willing to overnight to you if you'll send me yours when you get it. (or pay me for it). Isabella isn't eating it anymore and her mom didn't open the last one I ordered. If you

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2008-02-20 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I can relate to everything you say Lynne. You're doing everything in your power to help BooBoo, but you're not going to let him suffer. It's beyond me why so many vets can't think beyond euthanasia the second a cat tests FeLV pos. It makes me want to say to them, so I take it you'd recommend

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2008-02-20 Thread Lance
I'm a big fan of Vetri-Science' Liquid DMG product. It costs me around $30-35 for a bottle that lasts for three months. It's given orally with an eyedropper. Ember, my FeLV+ cat, is really good about taking it, so it must not taste too bad. Lance On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:59:18 -0500, Lynne

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2008-02-20 Thread laurieskatz
Where I live it is abuse to fail to provide medical care for a sick or injured animal. You might see if there is any recourse down that avenue. L - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:13

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2008-02-20 Thread Lynne
Kerry, did you see my follow up email. It isn't factor one it's transfer factor. I don't know what I was thinking when I said it was the former. Lynne - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008

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2008-02-20 Thread Kelley Saveika
Unfortunately I think they count euthanization...is that how you spell it? as medical care. On 2/20/08, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where I live it is abuse to fail to provide medical care for a sick or injured animal. You might see if there is any recourse down that avenue. L

Re: Holistic Vets `LYNNE want my TF?

2008-02-20 Thread Lynne
No Laurie, it is the Transfer Factor Plus Advance for humans. They won't ship any animal products to Canada. Thank you for your kind offer but if it got checked at the border they would just toss it out. I've had that happen. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz [EMAIL

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2008-02-20 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Lynne, you are so right about everything coming from you---it sounds like your vet isn't clued up about FeLV which would not be unusual. When I ordered the IR for my Flavia (on the recommendation of the wonderful Michelle Lerner who used to be on this list) my (also compasssionate) vet, Dr Diane,

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2008-02-20 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Yes, got it Lynne! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Holistic Vets Kerry, did you see my follow up email. It isn't factor one it's transfer

Finlay Please add to the CLS :(

2008-02-20 Thread Sherry DeHaan
THis is a heartbreaker,I fell for this fluffy black boy the second I saw him.He had a bit of a cattitude towards other cats but he loved people.He even swatted me a few times.But all it took was a look at that sweet fuzzy face to forgve him.I understood that he had a short hard life.But plenty

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2008-02-20 Thread Marylyn
Where is previous owners breeders? If so, report them to the various animal societies.I guess cats have the equivalent of AKC. Also the BBB. First, you can vent. Second, you may save another cat or its people. On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Lynne wrote: Thank you Jane. I think

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2008-02-20 Thread Lynne
Kerry, when the vet first told us of his prognosis and offered euthanization before we bonded too much with him, I told him, I don't believe in putting individuals suffering with the AIDS virus down so why would I want to do this to a seemingly well animal. He thought that was pretty funny and

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2008-02-20 Thread Marylyn
If it helps any I have used Transfer Factor on several critters and it has been recommended by holistic vets I know. If you don't feel you can afford it, please try colostrum. It helps boost the immune system big time. On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:20 AM, Lynne wrote: You are absolutely correct

RE: Finlay Please add to the CLS :(

2008-02-20 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I'm so sorry, Sherry. I'm glad Finlay was at least surrounded by love at the end of his all too short life. Sending healing thoughts to all the other furry sweeties. Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent:

Re: Finlay Please add to the CLS :(

2008-02-20 Thread Kelley Saveika
Oh SherryI'm so sorry... ...bless you for the work you do. On 2/20/08, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THis is a heartbreaker,I fell for this fluffy black boy the second I saw him.He had a bit of a cattitude towards other cats but he loved people.Heeven swatted me a few times.But

RE: Finlay Please add to the CLS :(

2008-02-20 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sherry, sorry about feisty little Finlay. I know you guys made his little life with you a great one. Gentle Bridge vibes to him, and hugs to you all. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Holistic Vets `LYNNE want my TF?

2008-02-20 Thread laurieskatz
wow. ok. L - Original Message - From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Holistic Vets `LYNNE want my TF? No Laurie, it is the Transfer Factor Plus Advance for humans. They won't ship any animal products

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2008-02-20 Thread laurieskatz
Lynne, I understand. I have the ashes of Angel (I did not name her), a gorgeoue white deaf kitty I took to the vet specialty college to have biopsies and a feeding tube placed when her previous owner abandoned her because she was sick. Her ashes are with my Teddy and Keisha and a buck (long