El,
From everything I've read, the virus is extremely fragile. It can only
live outside
of a cat for, at most, a few minutes. I think I read that it can hold
together
in water for longer, so I make sure I don't drop any water when I'm
carrying
bowls. Unless, the cats are sneezing like crazy, I
Well just when you think it can't get any worse it does. BooBoo's cytology
came back today and he has FIP as well as feline leukemia. There was no
bacteria in it. There is nothing left for us to do for him. There was no
bacteria in the culture, just protein and fibres, because his blood
Wait, wait. What test did the vet use to test for FIP? There *is* an FIP
test which is fairly accurate, but most vets don't even know about it. It
is called Rivalta's test:
This is a test with which few veterinarians are familiar but it can be very
helpful in the diagnosis of FIP. A test
I don't know Kelly. He sent it off to a lab and specifically tested for it
along with culturing the fluid. I have to assume if he tested positive and all
the symptoms he has are those of an infected animal that he has it. Don't I
wish there could have been an error but I'm at the point where
Lynne, I know how sad and disheartened you are, but please be aware, as
Kelley says, that all FIP tests are not created equal. Most of the
tests only show the *presence* of the coronavirus, which actually is
present in huge numbers of cats without ever turning into FIP. It has
to mutate to
I am so sorry. I was afraid it was FIP. My friend did this for her kitty (lung
drain). He went along for awhile. His littermate never got FIP.
Pls also check into animal cruelty laws to see if they have violated any of
those. Wonder if the other cats are sick, too.
REMEMBER~ there is a reason
right right. I forgot this.
Ask your vet?
- Original Message -
From: Rosenfeldt, Diane
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: more bad news
Lynne, I know how sad and disheartened you are, but please be aware, as
Kelley
FIRST OF ALL: NO ONE ON THIS LIST IS TO CROSSPOST ANYTHING I WRITE, OR
HAVE WRITTEN IN THE PAST, ANYWHERE ELSE, WITHOUT MY WRITTEN PERMISSION.
please please keep loivng him and doing everything you can, but if the test
was sent to antech labs for their foolproof FIP test, you need to know
Lynne:
Join [EMAIL PROTECTED] now. This is most likely what my Brumley died from, if
you want to go back and read my posts from the archives. FIP is complicated
and very very very difficult for, shall I say, run-of-the-mill vets to
diagnose. So you need this group's support and expertise
Lynne I am so sorry to hear about BooBoo having FIP.Poor boy.I am so glad he
has the two of you to love him.If I were you I would definitely sue those
CRIMINALS! And try to get them for the vet bills too.Good luck to you and
Boo.give him kisses from me.
Sherry
Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lynne, I am truly so sorry for things being as they
are. Those who responded to your post are more than
correct. There is no test for FIP. (except the one
Kelly talked about...I dunno) Vets use a titre, and
they add up all the clinical symptoms and guess.
Almost all cats will test + for the
I'm so sorry Lynne. I have had two kitties who died of FIP (one had leukemia,
too). The difference in what you describe about BooBoo is that the fluid was
strictly in their abdomens--not connected with their lungs at all. My vet says
that there are two types of FIP--dry and wet. The wet,
Lynne: Definitely join the Yahoo FIP Group- link I sent already. You will
learn from them the difference btw wet and dry FIP, ways to diagnosis (actual
testing of fluid (the effusion) is better than just a blood titer test- but
still not 100%- 100% is still only on necropsy any vet that will
I just joined Caroline. Thank you
Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Caroline Kaufmann
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: more bad news
Lynne: Definitely join the Yahoo FIP Group- link I sent already. You will
learn
I'm so sorry. BooBoo's lucky to have you, but you must be so very
awfully sad.. Hope the Transfer Factor makes it soon.
Gloria
On Feb 27, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Lynne wrote:
Well just when you think it can't get any worse it does. BooBoo's
cytology came back today and he has FIP as well as
Thank you Gloria. It's been a bad day, that's all.
Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Gloria Lane
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: more bad news
I'm so sorry. BooBoo's lucky to have you, but you must be so very awfully
Yeah Dede I think he knows we love him. Bob wrapped him up in his coat and
took him for a walk outside this afternoon. He said Boo enjoyed it.
Reminds me when my mom was dying and I would wheel her around the
neighborhood at the nursing home. Geez this stinks. Then the people at the
pharmacy
Laurie, I'm sure the other cats were sick or going to be sick but they were
selling them all and had buyers lined up. I just hope to god they had the
decency to tell the new owners of what possibly could be. But you have to
understand, these people think I gave this disease to BooBoo. They
BooBoo is tired of me kissing him to pieces Sherry. Even the vets kiss him on
the head before we leave. He's such a little hero. I'm gonna think of
something for the previous owners when this is over. Nothing illegal mind you
!!
- Original Message -
From: Sherry DeHaan
To:
Any vet that tells you this is a quack ... period
he has FIP
FIP can ONLY be diagnosed with an autopsy so Boo will not get treated
now for what he really has, I hate vets that tell people that. There
are many things that mimic FIP, but once the dreaded FIP word is
mentioned the cat is
Well if it isn't FIP, what could it possibly be ? And if it isn't, and there
is no bacterial infection in the sample sent off is it just another
complication of feline leukemia? What kind of treatment is there for
accumulation of fluid on the lungs other than what we're doing now. The vet
Lynne,
What is his lasix dose? Have you asked about being on spiro, darn I
can't think of the name but it is used with lasix if lasix isn't doing
the trick. I belong to a feline heart group and many cats are on it
with lasix, it worked when lasix alone didn't. Is the fluid in his
Boy, am I jealous of these people! One day I hope we can have a setup like
this one!
http://www.catsofaustralia.com/cat-enclosures-2.htm
--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
http://www.rescuties.org
Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
Apparently the virus CAN live for a while. I have read in several places that
you need to clean any area with a bleach/water cleaner if a + cat has been
where a negative one will be staying. It is said that you should wait 30 days
after your + cat is gone before you should introduce a new
I have to agree with Laurie. When Armond was left as the last cat standing, I
just couldn't bear for him to be alone. (I think that cats can be solitary but
I know how much Armond LOVES to have a friend. Someone to groom and sleep with
and wrestle with...)
So, I set out on a long
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