They make these available afterwards as videos:
http://www.maddiesfund.org/Resource_Library/Maddies_Video_Library/Shelter_Medicine_Videos.html
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:57 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
Will they ahve something in print for those of us who cannot go to this?
Would like to
So sorry.
Sleep sweetly, dear Nitnoy...
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Samantha,
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From:
Hello,
Kitty, the kitten I rescued from a feral mother 6 weeks ago, is making some
chirping like sounds now. She also does some meowing and those chirping sounds
when she jumps around or plays. Is that anything to be concerned about?
Yesterday she did this not panting thing once and then again
I don't think so. I'm not an expert, but in my experience, these chirping
sounds mean that kitty is inquisitive and happy.
My 2 cents.
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Samantha,
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Thanks, I do try to keep her happy and healthy.
I really hope the breathing issues are not some upper respiratory issues
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On Oct 16, 2012, at 8:19, Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com wrote:
I don't think so. I'm not an expert, but in my experience, these chirping
sounds
My boys chirp when they see birds close up.
On Oct 16, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Maryam Ulomi wrote:
Thanks, I do try to keep her happy and healthy.
I really hope the breathing issues are not some upper respiratory
issues
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On Oct 16, 2012, at 8:19, Terri Brown
Dear all,
I feel for all of you who lost your cat(s). I have lost one too many and I
can't bring myself to think losing another one. I would like to share something
with you all and ask your opinions and advice since I am not originally from
the US and I don't know how things go over here plus
Alev -
I'm so sorry you had this experience. Unfortunately many no-kill shelters are
really not totally no-kill - they do euthanize for FeLV FIV, usually because
they have no place to house/foster the positive cats.
It is routine for shelters to make you sign all rights over to them. It
What pound was this?
That's one of the only good things about the pounds around here is that
they don't test for FIV/Felv, so then they don't kill for it. Of course,
I think they should test, and still not kill for it.
These are the open-admission No Kill (saving 90%+) shelters in the U.S.:
According to her email it wasn't a pound, it was a so-called no-kill shelter.
Pounds are usually owned by the local municipality.
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
To:
I (and others) use the term ``pound'' for all so-called ``shelters'' that
are not truly No Kill (saving 90%+).
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
According to her email it wasn't a pound, it was a so-called no-kill
shelter.
Pounds are usually owned by the
They may call themselves a shelter but killing the animals dragged them down
to a level of a pound I would call them a death camp if you ask me...
This shelter/pound I brought River is a charity organization I believe and
works with donations.
Alev
From:
Yes, that term is bandied about, too.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Alev Durmus alev_dur...@yahoo.com wrote:
They may call themselves a shelter but killing the animals dragged them
down to a level of a pound I would call them a death camp if you ask
me...
This shelter/pound I brought
The caveat to the no kill (as defined in the Asilomar Accords) is that all
it means is they will not kill adoptable animals. Unfortunately, its up to
the individual shelter/rescue to define what they consider adoptable. All
too often, facilities that advertise themselves as no kill really mean
Yes, and some have even gone so far as to define ``adoptable'' as those for
which they have cages! Outta space, outta luck.
As Christine probably knows, there are over 200 cities/towns that are now
No Kill. As for No Kill places being hard to find, at least someone is
looking for them. In
around here doesn't say where you are??
From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat
I (and others) use the term ``pound'' for all so-called
Hi Christiane,
Thank you so much...I am so sorry to find out about all these a little too
late...Yes, they show kittens, young cats, but very few seniors on their
website for adoption...They are a kill shelter and people do not know this.
People are happily donating money thinking they are
Los Angeles. Neither the city not the county pounds test.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:11 AM, CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.comwrote:
around here doesn't say where you are??
*From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:*
Thank you Kathryn,
I signed the Houston petition already...I hope you guys get enough people on
time. I checked the list, it was not in it before. I will check the new one
too. I am thinking to send them an email about what I think of them and send a
FB messages to people around town to warn
Although that could be a good warning shot, they may just ignore you and
not doing anything.
The way to change things is to go to, say, the city council, or whomever
hired them, and tell them you do not like what this pound is doing.
Whatever you do, act professional. Dress professionally and
Alev, are you in Houston, TX. What shelter was this?
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:17:14 -0700
From: alev_dur...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat
Thank you Kathryn,
I signed the Houston petition already...I hope you guys get
I've never heard of a true shelter not testing for FIV or FeLV. That sounds
more like an animal control facility.
The Dept of Agriculture wouldn't let us adopt out animals unless we had tested
them.
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
From:
These all look like Animal Control Facilities.
Our shelter is definitely no-kill we are not on there.
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 16,
Most of the pounds (what we refer to as animal control facilites) here do not
test, either. But there are plenty of taxempt charitable shelters, some of
them are truly no-kill. We go above beyond what most other shelters do. We
have to test make sure the animals are fixed vaccinated before
Hi Edna,
No, I am in MA.
thank you,
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On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:
Alev, are you in Houston, TX. What shelter was this?
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:17:14 -0700
From: alev_dur...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject:
Sorry, Gmail messed up my link (says one thing and goes somewhere else)!
Here it is, all fixed up:
Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)
If your shelter meets the criteria on http://www.no-killnews.com/?page_id=8 and
is
Oh, I saw where you said you signed the Houston petition which is why I thought
you were here.
From: alev_dur...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:40:28 -0400
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat
Hi Edna,
No, I am in MA. thank you,
Alev,
I am so sorry this has happened to you and River. River is a beautiful name,
btw, and one I gave to a rescue cat we took in recently. I don't know what
else
to say other than I am hoping you someday find peace with what has happened
knowing your intentions were only the best, and you
I'm so sorry. I know how much you must grieve but you need to rejoice that
you were holding her lovingly when she passed and you spoke to her and told her
it was all right to leave. She is having no pain now, no discomfort, wherever
it is that we all go when we pass. But you are still here
Beth, How wonderful you are. I had a similar but happier experience. I was
known in my city as a rescuer and am on the Board of an animal rights
organization. However, I surrendered many cats to the Humane Society, a
supposedly no-kill shelter in San Antonio, Tx. Whenever I filled out the
So terribly sad and so hard when they seem to get better. I think that is what
makes it so damn hard to make a final decision. When the choice is in our hands
it just not something that I think any of us take lightly. I'm so sorry about
Nitnoy. Im sure her life with you was wonderful and I can
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