oh, nina--
i'm so sorry. this is the first time i've had the computer up in more
than a day--glorious thunderstorms all day yesterday, so i believe
that grace is at the bridge as i write this.
all GLOW to her to find her way safely, and to heal your heart...
i really liked the illusion of a
My Beloved Group,
First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to participate fully in the
group this last couple of weeks. I love you all, but for the last
couple of days, I haven't even been able bring myself to read the
posts. I'm physically and emotionally exhausted by Grace and my last
Nina, I am so sorry. I do not think lack of fat makes veins smaller or harder to find, so though I may be wrong, I do not think that should be a concern. You know how I am, though, I do not think I would do it at all since she does not seem to be in active pain. I do think the annoyed look she
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My Beloved Group,
First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to participate fully in the
group this last couple of weeks. I love you all
have followed your posts about
Grace.
Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Nina wrote:
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:18:15 -0700
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My Beloved Group
Michelle,
Thank you so much for answering my post. When I was struggling with
gathering the energy it took to actually write, I was thinking of you.
I wanted your opinion about this. I wish I were braver. Funny, isn't
it, I always think of myself as strong and brave, but when it comes to
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Question about Euthanasia and my Grace
My Beloved Group,
First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to participate fully in the
group this last couple of weeks. I love you all, but for the last
couple of days, I haven't even been able bring myself
Nina,
I'm so sorry you're going through this right now, it's so hard. If you're worried about them finding a vein, you could request that they inject her parenterally, that's how my vet helped Ninja - no worried or stress about finding a vein and using an IV, just a shot.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My Beloved Group,
First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to participate fully in the
group this last couple of weeks. I love you all
Hello, Barb, thank you. What does parenterally mean exactly? Is that
subq, IM?
N
Barb Moermond wrote:
Nina,
I'm so sorry you're going through this right now, it's so hard. If
you're worried about them finding a vein, you could request that they
inject her parenterally, that's how my vet
I had to look up the exact meaning myself http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=parenteral
it's an injection into the abdomen, but not into any organ within the abdomen
Ninja winced a bit with the initial needle entry, but that was it. Unfortunately, she was so ill, intestinal lymphoma, that
Nina,
That is true just the shot would be so much better can you make an appointment for Friday, so at least you have some more good bye time.
CherieBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nina,
I'm so sorry you're going through this right now, it's so hard. If you're worried about them finding a
Thanks Cherie,
I just called my Internist's office and they will be able to squeeze me
in tomorrow at 9:30. I know you all know how this feels. The final
moment, the realization that there's nothing left to do, nothing left to
try. How can a heart break over and over again?
N
Cherie A
Because your heart is big enough and flexible enough to love over and over again.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Cherie,I just called my Internist's office and they will be able to squeeze me in tomorrow at 9:30. I know you all know how this feels. The final moment, the realization that
Hi all,
I'm going through this same thing and am so grateful
for all the experience and calmness on this subject.
And Nina, I don't feel so crazy since reading how you
are feeling the same way.
My cat MacKenzie is not positive, but he is dying.
His breathing is mostly quieter now, but very
Thank you Janine for letting me know what's going on with you and
MacKenzie. The picture you paint makes me see your MacKenzie as if he's
in front of my eyes, and not just in my mind. Your sharing this with
us, somehow makes me feel a little less alone.
I'm so torn about this decision.
Nina,
A Grace and all our furrbabies heal the broken hearts, then when they leave us they tend to break all over again...Are they going to come to your house, so you do not have to move her?
Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Cherie,I just called my Internist's office and they will be able to
Janine,
I am sorry to hear about MacKenzie, it is so hard and hurts so much, be strong for him, he needs you now.
Cheriejanine paton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all, I'm going through this same thing and am so gratefulfor all the experience and calmness on this subject. And Nina, I don't feel so
Nina wrote:
Can anyone tell me how difficult it is to
put an animal to sleep in an emaciated condition?
Dear Nina,
You would want the vet to be VERY CAREFUL. One of my positive
kitties, my beloved little shy golden turkish angora kitty, Katyusha,
had a very painful death - I think -
Nina, my heart breaks for you. I have been through the same situation recently with my Bubba and I know watching them leave is harder than actually losing them. I felt so guilty when he died for having feelings of relief when it was over. Seeing our babies suffer from this terrible disease is
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Thank you Janine for letting me know what's going on with you and
MacKenzie. The picture you paint makes me see your
: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:18 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Question about Euthanasia and my Grace
My Beloved Group,
First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to participate fully in the
group this last couple of weeks. I love you all, but for the last
couple of days, I haven't
Bonnie,
This was one of my concerns. I'm so sorry you had this experience, but
because of it, you may be helping others, you're certainly helping me.
I know how hard it is to forgive ourselves when these things happen.
Your intentions were loving and I know that Katyusha knows this too.
This goes for you as well Kerry. You never told me the full
circumstances of what happened with Levi, but I know it was horrendous
for both of you. You're too kind and loving a person to dwell on what
happened. What can we do, but move on and learn from life's hard
lessons the best we can.
Nina, I am sorry. This is so awful for you and her to have to go through this. If you do euthanize at some point, maybe you can give her some oral valium first, the way you did earlier, so that she is more relaxed for the process?
While she does sound uncomfortable, she does not sound like she
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Nina, I am sorry. This is so awful for you and her to have to go
through this. If you do euthanize
I am not sure it is about bravery. It does take bravery to be with someone as they die a natural death. But I think that the hardest thing I ever did in my life was to euthanize my horse Shire. If I had felt it would be ok, or fair, to him, it would have been easier for me, i think, to just
I made that decision with my Butch.
It is very hard, but I firmly believe that when they have given up there is no need for anything to be dragged out. I almost wish people could have the option of euthanasia because I know some would take it.
Butch was having trouble breathing and had lost
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Grace
My Beloved Group,First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been
able to participate fully in the group
Nina,
I can't help you decide, but my thoughts are with you. I don't
personally believe in euthanasia, but I came very close with TeeCee this
spring. It's tough...
With Care,
Steph
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My Beloved Group,
First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to participate fully in the
group this last couple of weeks. I love you all
A heart that is full of love can break in infinite number of times. A hard
heart might break once.
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Thanks
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Nina, my heart goes out to you, I am so sorry for your pain. These
are such difficult, important, and soul-searching questions. I can
only answer of course from my own experience, but want to mention
that homeopathy also has ways of supporting the one who is about to
pass on, so you
on losing a loved one, you did not truly love.
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Nina, my heart goes out to you, I am so sorry for your
I personally think Euthanasia of pets is wrong. We shouldn't have the power
to take an innocent life. Only God has that power.
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:15:40 EDT
I am not sure it is about bravery. It does take bravery to be with someone
as they die a natural death. But I think that the hardest thing I ever
did in
my life was to euthanize my horse Shire. If I had felt
Nina,
I'm so sorry. I can say that as animals lose weight it does make it
more difficult to find a vein. My vet can find a vein in a potato, but
it sounds like your favorite vet is not available. Make sure that
whoever you decide on sedates her first. Also, do NOT let them take
her away from
I may be wrong about the weight being the issue about finding a vein,
but if Grace is anemic, that too can cause a problem with it.
tonya
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Nina, I am so sorry. I do not think lack of fat makes veins smaller
or
harder to find, so though I may be wrong, I do not
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