This is an
email I just got from someone writing to another rescue group. If this
is true it's very bad, haven't some of you taken (FeLV positive)
animals to this rescue or know people that have? At this point these
are just alliegations, but if these pictures were really taken there it
When I was doing a search for FELV/FIV friendly
rescues to add to my website, I actually emailed Angel Wings, because someone on
another list told me it was a good one. The lady told me that because her cats
run the entire property and are not segregated, she does NOT accept FELV or FIV
Wow, I went out to the web site, and apparently they've had quite a thing
going there - I had it on our Humane Society links page, but am taking it
off. That's sad.
Gloria
At 09:59 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote:
When I was doing a search for FELV/FIV friendly rescues to add to my
website, I
Jenn,
I have in the past posted their address to people inquirering, but I
always tell people to take the cat there and ask to see the place, if
they aren't allowed to, BIG RED FLAGS!!
--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com
Post
I am sick and weeping for those dogs.BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Cherie
This is precisely why I don't support big groups like this, they are
in it, in my opinion more for the money and publicity, sure they still
help SOME animals but with as much money as these big groups take in,
they could do a WHOLE LOT MORE.
--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:20:30 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Question about feral with FeLV
Well, in my opinion, you have a wonderful set up there and certainly did
the right thing for the ferals.
I don't know about the eating - have they
I am not going to read about them as I will get too disturbed but what a horrendous thing to find out. You assume that animals at least get safety when they are placed in a sanctuary from past neglet and abuse - to think that they are just being prisoned to be abused again makes my heart bleed so
I AM so horrified! I would never place a
cat without pre-screening!
I am pro-life, but in this case humane
euthanasia would have been much more "humane".
I did take my old boy Felix, to Angel's
Gate, Long Island. NY.
I met Susan Victor did visit
the sanctuary beforehand.
It was a most
And the SAD truth is, there are many more, so
called sanctuaries like this...
Just allhaven't been given the publicity or
been "discovered".
And sometimes the whole legal system, regarding
penalties and such, is a JOKE! (Not Funny!)
What a sad world we live in.
I sit here, in tears. I
Gloria, she probably does not get our messages from this posting right
since you forwarded her message to us - could you forward it to her? I
will also try to post it on her list group as well if it will let me -
Here's my message to this person -
I had a similar situation with Ginger (who was a
Hi, and thank you, thank you, thank you for being such an angel and
taking such good care of the feral kittiesit's also wonderful that
they're a bonded pair. You are absolutely right to keep them together
(and the neg girl will probably remain negative in any case).
Three of my four-strong
When I talked to Jasmine (AC), about being an indoor kitty - he said to
her that he would like that very much - and I think he likes to be an
indoor kitty (he doesn't seem to want to get out or anything) - but he
might be lonely - I don't know. Right now, he lives in a townhouse next
to mine (my
That is so trueMy son wants to rescue everything we see, from the smallest butterfly to the cats we have, he is 5 and I hope this caring nature stays with him.
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And the SAD truth is, there are many more, so called sanctuaries like this...
Just allhaven't been
Here is my alert email I am sending out to the
groups I know have mentioned this "rescue":
PLEASE REPOST THIS
WIDELY TO ANY GROUPS OR PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE TAKEN A CAT TO ANGEL WINGS
SANCTUARY!!!
It's recently come to light that there are severe
allegations (the photos pretty much prove
Thank you, that is sick...what are these people thinking??/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is my alert email I am sending out to the groups I know have mentioned this "rescue":
PLEASE REPOST THIS WIDELY TO ANY GROUPS OR PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE TAKEN A CAT TO ANGEL WINGS SANCTUARY!!!
It's
Jenn,
Thank you that is fabulous :)
--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
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Title: Message
Angels
Gate is in Long Island.
-Original Message-From: Tad Burnett
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:59
PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Angel
Wings Sancuary [Very Bad if True] (all sorts of
contactinfo) I would like
Tad,
I would agree with you..up to a point. The clutter mess...not good...not as bad as a small cage, but then..you can't really CLEAN around clutter...so not only do you have to view the clutter, but what its hiding.
Yeah, there were lots of food bags laying around, and yes it was quality food
Tad,
Did you read the story, no one is allowed to visit?
--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com
FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls
Yes, I made it very clear in my post that my
Felix went to Angel's Gate in L.I., N.Y.
I also stated Victor Susan are marvelous and
their sanctuary/hospice is IMMACULATE!
In fact, one of the first things Felix did was to jump
on their bed, covered w/ a white spread! With his IBD, I was so
In a message dated 6/9/2005 3:01:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Angels Gate is
in Long Island
Again, EXACTLY.
NOT TENN.
In a message dated 6/9/2005 1:28:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That is so trueMy son wants to rescue everything we see, from the
smallest butterfly to the cats we have, he is 5 and I hope this caring nature
stays with him.
Cherie
My daughter was the
Hi Belinda..
Yes ..I did read the story and personally I can't see why anyone
would send their pet to a place they couldn't visit before and after it
went there...Perhaps the cats that come here are ones like mine...Last
chance cats...Nobody wanted them and there lives were saved from the
gas
if you go to the military mascots page and read the
stories about some of the mascots, it's even more heartbreaking when some
military brass then vetoes an animal being shipped stateside when the necessary
money has been raised. it costs big bucks to bring an animal back-the vet bills,
Well, there is a point at which the room is just
not available for any cats, much less those with FELV. While in theory, I
support a no-kill stance, in certain areas, I know it's just not possible to
save them all. Tennessee is one of the most over-run states with unwanted
animals (Georgia
i was speaking more generally when i said, not optimum, NOT in
reference to those photos!
--
MaryChristine
AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
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I cant remember who it was
someone on this list found the study that I had read about regarding FIV
transmission with casual contacts at multi cat household a long time ago
Nina, do you remember? I think you
were part of the conversation on this, too.
From: Hideyo Yamamoto
Nina, I just found it thank you!
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:00
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: FW: [FivCats] Re:
integrating FIV+ with negatives
I cant remember who it was
Michelle, how is Ginger?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Ginger is eating with Periactin
I would absolutely postpone the ultrasound.
Nina
[EMAIL
I know people on this list make a lot of comments on this,
but I also personally want to thank you for all the support you give for me and
for my babies, and for anyone who may need the support for that matter
I really love this list as we can talk about anything (any
OT stuff)
I
Title: Message
Hmm.
Any chance a bunch of you could start another FIP list, without her? It sounds
such a shame that in order to lose her, you had to lose all the good people
too.
I've
never belonged to any other web group of any sort, so I've landed real lucky in
finding this one. Totally
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Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 19
Date: 3 Jun 2005 11:54:19 -0700
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Title: Message
I have a colleague who has a 12 year old
boy kitty recently he started going bathroom (both 1 2) all over
the house other than litter box his eyes also started twitching and
lost some hair she wanted to know whats going on I suggested
to take him to a vet and do a blood
I think that kitty needs to be seen by a vet soon.
Bonnie
www.elephants.com
- Original Message -
From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, June 9, 2005 5:49 pm
Subject: RE: any info on this poor kitty
I have a colleague who has a 12 year old boy kitty - recently he
Title: Message
Thyroid comes to mind . . . but not sure
thats what it is. Might be worth having it checked. I realize she is
having financial troubles but . . . her cats well-being is a
responsibility too.
Kat
Kathleen A.
Berard,Animal Communicator, Vibrational Essences
Hi All,
I'm up and running againthank god!
Needless to say I had a potload of emails and was bouncing all over too.
I hope all is well with everyone and I'm glad to be back online.
Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for
Hideyo,
I agree, the cat really needs to see a vet.
Is there a shelter or humane society near by that has
clinics?
Our shelter has spay/neuter clinics twice weekly, but time
isput asidefor "hardship" cases..The vets will do an exam, run the
bloodwork, then advisse what further treatment or
In a message dated 6/9/2005 6:51:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
recently
he started going bathroom (both 1 2) all over the house other than
litter box
PS ~ I was also thinking a "blockage",
undiagnosed NOT treated is always (99.9%) fatal
Unusual
many clinics have "help" funds too - and what about imom?"Kathleen A. Berard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thyroid comes to mind . . . but not sure thats what it is. Might be worth having it checked. I realize she is having financial troubles but . . . her cats well-being is a responsibility
I wonder who we should contact? Senators/reps? news media?
tBONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://usmilitarykillsdogs.allsupportgroup.info/www.elephants.com
Title: AOL Email
In a message dated 6/9/2005 8:35:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
and what about imom?
Last I heard, sadly, IMOM was in financial straits and
was not able to help as much as before
In a message dated 6/9/2005 8:35:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
many
clinics have "help" funds too
And there IS another group that helps, I believe I
read about it on this list..
Maybe check archives.
Patti
Sebastian has been doing alot better. His hind legs are getting a little stronger. I am still looking for a good vet that has alot of exprience dealing with +kitties. I have tried to pull up the list on the kitties website, but I can't for some reason. I live in West Virginia. Also, does anyone
I think it's good to question and look for complete stories. Thanks for
giving an alternate view.
Gloria
At 01:58 PM 6/9/2005, you wrote:
I would like to point out a couple thingsI and others have heard of
the Angel Wings on Long Island NYThis is not the same one that we
have the
I received a letter from IDA asking them to contact officials in Korea asking them "politely that for the health of Korean citizens and for the millions of dogs who are already suffering unimaginable cruelties, they must not allow the legalization of the dog meat trade. Urge them to create an
Here's the link Nina sent to me. ALL kinds of
financial help for pets:
http://www.magdrl-nj.com/links.html#finance
I, too, am thinking blockage... not something
anything should have to endure, REALLY horrible way to die, almost always fatal
within days, if not hours, once they get 100%
In the summer when it's hot, the animals do eat less. All I could suggest would be to try to tempt them with goodies...
Good luck. They are lucky to have you!
tonyaNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gloria,What a wonderful human this person is! I can't tell you if this is 'normal' behavior for
That's good news about Corky! I just hate dealing with emergency vets. I'm glad you got him home. I hope Carl feels better soon and perks up too.
tonyaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you for asking, Nina. She is doing much better - I had to fightwith the vet at the emergency clinic
WB Terrie! Wow, you missed alot... you might want
to do an archives reading session. :-)
I'm not sure exactly how long you've been gone,
but I think the two most current issues on the list are Michelle's Bramble not
doing well (seizures), and the Angel Wings CatSanctuary fiasco (turns out
I agree, this is a great group - you're so right, some of the groups
are very stringent, with hard-nosed moderators, and it's hard to say
things and get answers.
Thank you for being here!
Gloria
On Jun 9, 2005, at 4:43 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
I know people on this list make a lot of
Wonder what she's feeding him and if he's eating ok? Right, I agree,
vet is in order.
Gloria
On Jun 9, 2005, at 5:49 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
I have a colleague who has a 12 year old boy kitty recently he
started going bathroom (both 1 2) all over the house other than
litter box
What have you dont for Sebastion that's helped him, do you think?
I'm SO GLAD that he's doing better.
Gloria
On Jun 9, 2005, at 9:21 PM, JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:
Sebastian has been doing alot better. His hind legs are getting a
little stronger. I am still looking for a good vet that has
Very insightful, you guys! Gloria
On Jun 9, 2005, at 10:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's the link Nina sent to me. ALL kinds of financial help for pets:
http://www.magdrl-nj.com/links.html#finance
I, too, am thinking blockage... not something anything should have
From the little I looked around, I think its
not at all uncommon for shelters to be closed. I was
referred to a gentleman who takes in FELV catswas given only his phone
#. When I called him, he told me he had many cats, (would
not say how many) in his house but would not tell me where. He
Thanks!
Computer was down for 2 long weeks because practically the inside had to be replaced. First set parts were defective...grrr thank god for the warranty.
Wow I'd say you guys have been busy...yes, I will go to the Archives to get updated.
In a message dated 6/9/2005 8:43:02 PM Pacific
I'm glad to hear Sebastian is doing better! There
aren't any vets on the website for W. Virginia, or even Virginia, so what you'll
probably need to do is just call around to all of them in the phone book. A good
opening question is "I have a cat with Feline Leukemia, what should I do?" the
Michelle, how are you doing? What has happened? Is Bramble still holding on?
Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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From the little I
looked around, I think its not at all uncommon for shelters to be
closed
Had to reply to this commentHow
sad if true where you may be located!
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