Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Sharyl
Pat, I was saddened to read that Mandy has crossed the Rainbow Bridge.  Now she 
is free of her ailments.  She will alway be in your memories. 
Sharyl  

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Pat Kachur  wrote:

> From: Pat Kachur 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique  Please add to the CLS  :(
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 4:24 PM
> My little Mandy passed yesterday
> afternoon.  In addition to her leukemia, she was
> partially blind, totally deaf and had a benign tumor which
> was on its way to keeping her from being able to walk, and
> recovering from a UTI. But until just two days ago, she was
> happy, eating a lot, purring.  She passed very
> peacefully.  But, even with 6 other cats, she has left
> a big hole in my life.  I miss everything about
> her.  She was about 9 years old.
> 
> Pat



  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

2009-10-23 Thread Sharyl
Dorlis,
Here is the link to the yahoo anemia group.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia/

Sharyl

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:

> From: dlg...@windstream.net 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc: "Sharyl" 
> Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 9:02 PM
> Sharyl,  i missed the lik for
> anemia, could you send it again?  asking because Lil
> Bit did have a kidney infection and her count dropped
> 1  point.  we gave her fluids and anitbiotics and
> in 1 week, she had bounced back.  so far no repeats,
> BUT.  DORLIS
>  Sharyl 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Amy,
> > Epogen is very effective for treating non-regenerative
> anemia.  Treatment is not started until the HCT or PCV
> is below 20 and usually in the mid-teens. The Anemia group I
> gave you the link for has more info on treatment protocol.
> > Sharyl
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Iva Lark Emily Seaberg 
> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Iva Lark Emily Seaberg 
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:32 AM
> > > A few years ago I had a kitty with
> > > Chronic Renal Failure. Towards the end he was
> extremely
> > > anemic and we did the Epogen. I'm so glad we did
> it because
> > > it did buy us some time. I decided to try the
> Epogen when it
> > > became clear he was not making new blood cells,
> his anemia
> > > became extreme and we knew that without help he
> would die
> > > from it, a slow, lethargic and very sad death. I
> wanted to
> > > give him a chance and the Epogen did. My vet
> talked to UC
> > > Davis about his unique situation (he also had
> high blood
> > > pressure and a heart problem) and we gave him a
> really
> > > really low dose. I believe typically they give it
> 3-4 times
> > > a week and we gave it once a week. It was such a
> low dose
> > > the vet thought it might not work, but it did and
> actually
> > > better than we anticipated.
> > > 
> > > So, I can't speak for the FeLV stuff, but I can
> say the
> > > Epogen wasn't as evil as I was expecting to be
> from what I
> > > had heard word of mouth. We used it very
> cautiously, and it
> > > seemed to make a big difference. You just really
> have to
> > > watch it, start off slow. It is easier to add
> treatments
> > > then try and slow it down and you don't want
> their values
> > > increasing too fast.
> > > 
> > > Good luck,
> > > 
> > > Iva
> > > 
> > > - Original Message - >
> > > > Message: 7
> > > > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > From: Amy 
> > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So I've been posting about my cat Wolfie who
> has been
> > > losing weight since about mid 2006, from 15.4 lbs
> down to
> > > 10.8 lbs today.  His last visit was on July 2nd
> and he
> > > had a HCT of 29.  He also tested positive for
> > > Mycoplasma haemominutum previously called
> Haemobartonella
> > > felis small form.  He's been on doxy, pred, and
> > > Pet-Tinic twice daily for almost a month.
> > > > 
> > > > My vet thought he looked great today and he
> hasn't
> > > lost any weight since his last visit but he's not
> gaining
> > > and his HCT is still going down.  We took a tiny
> amount
> > > of blood and sent it out for a reticulocyte
> count. I've lost
> > > almost all my leuk positives to anemia in the end
> (except
> > > for one to lymphoma and one to neurological
> issues) and I'm
> > > really bummed out by the news.  I was hoping
> treating
> > > the Hemobart would help the HCT even though my
> vet wasn't as
> > > optimistic.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm just wondering how most people here lose
> their
> > > leuk positives.  It seems all of mine do so
> well, are
> > > completely asymptomatic and then out of nowhere
> they stop
> > > making red blood cells, the HCT starts to drop,
> and it is
> > > downhill from there.  My vet wrote me a 10 page
> letter
> > > on everything that could cause weight loss and
> anemia and we
> > > have eliminated almost all the possibilities I
> think. 
> > > We haven't done a digestive panel yet because it
> takes 4 mls
> > > of blood and I don't want to do that with his HCT
> dropping.
> > > If the reticulocyte test comes back and shows he
> is making
> > > red blood cells, we will start investigating
> digestive
> > > issues or anything else that could be causing his
> lower
> > > HCT.  If it comes back as nonregenerative
> anemia, is
> > > there anything I can do?  I know there is the
> option of
> > > Epogen and I'm looking into that.  Anything else
> or do
> > > I just spend time with him and wait?  I hate
> this point
> > > where they are feeling fine, looking fine, and I
> know it's
> > > only
> > > > a matter of time :(  This guy has been with
> me
> > > longer than any of my other positives and I'd do
> anything to
> > > help him but I'm afraid there's nothing else I
> can do. 
> > > Thoughts?
> > > > 
> > > > Amy
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

2009-10-23 Thread Belinda Sauro

Gary,
  I got the 1ml 2000 IU and Fred weighs 7lb 2oz.  I am using a insulin 
syringe that is 1/2 cc and was told to give Fred .15 or on the 15 line 
on the syringe.  Does that sound right to you, his HCT was 16% on 
Tuesday, he got his first shot today and his fur felt wet after, not 
much but a bit, I hope I didn't miss and he didn't really get it.  I was 
afraid to do more but he is so weak if I did miss I am really afraid he 
won't make it to Sunday when I give him the next dose.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

2009-10-23 Thread gary
I thought I had answered this when the subject first came up, but with my
memory, you never know.  They don't have much of a website, it most has a
few links to download forms. 
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=538876   It is faster to just
call them if you want to find out if they have what you are looking for and
how much that will be.  You can also have your vet or doctor call in the
script.  Phone number is 1-877-453-4566.

Gary

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: MaryChristine
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

I NEVER HEARDOF WALMART SPECIALITY PHARMACY BEFORE.  DORLIS
 MaryChristine  wrote: 
> well, actually i very vaguely think that i might have been mentioned
> years ago in terms of getting fluids, but since i'm not sure, i
> wouldn't know where to find where i might have filed it!
> 
> MC
> 
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM, MaryChristine
wrote:
> > gary, is there a link to walmart's specialty pharmacy? i've never
> > heard of it as an entity before
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > MC
> >
> > --
> > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
> > Maybe That'll Make The Difference
> >
> > MaryChristine
> > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue
(www.purebredcats.org)
> > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)
> >
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest

2009-10-23 Thread S. Jewell
Belinda, 

 

You would not have heard of it, unless you follow the likes
of Robert Cathcart
 , Linus
Pauling, Hugh Riordan, Irwin Stone, and Ewan Cameron, etc.
regarding intravenous sodium ascorbate for treating disease.


 

For the past decade I have worked in the distribution of the
Pauling therapy (vitamin C/lysine) for reversing coronary
artery plaques (www.HeartTech.com
 ) and as such have many
connections in the alternative medicine circles including
groups that currently treat cancers including stage IV with
intravenous ascorbate, with frequent remissions (especially
with lymphoma).

 

I also knew about this from my familiarity with Dr.
Cathcart's protocol for intravenous vitamin C in veterinary
medicine.  See
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int
_assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm.

 

I am also acquainted with Wendell Belfield,
  DVM, now retired, who knew Linus
Pauling and who in his vet practice reversed FeLV
  in the early
stages with high dose oral vitamin C, as well as FIP, and
also hip dysplasia, distemper and parvo in dogs.

 

Lastly, again, this therapy is used at Smith Ridge
Veterinary Clinic in Salem, New York and I have consulted
with Dr. Martin Goldstein and one of his associates on
separate occasions.  

 

To my knowledge, Linus' lymphoma is not mediastinal, as
there has been no fluid retention and no chest mass.  His
spleen remains slightly enlarged, as well as his
submandibular and popliteal lymph nodes.  He is due for a
complete exam, x-rays and workup to see if his remission is
maintaining and whether we need to begin the intravenous
ascorbate again.  After his terminal diagnosis last May 2008
he underwent IV drips during June, July and August and did
fine until his foster caregiver dumped him in January of
this year and I noticed the lymph glands enlarging again
somewhat.  At that time a different vet suggested palliative
care only, though we had come too far not to try and repeat
the drips, which I did again from January through March.

 

He has had no drip since March and remains active, healthy,
and happy, though the lymph nodes are still palpable.  He
will likely get some more drips in the coming month
depending on what his next workup shows.  The drips are very
benign and do not cause him much discomfort other than
placement of the catheter.  Also, because he has received a
good number of drips the skin on his forearms has toughened
and it has become more difficult to find a place to insert
the catheter (the last was placed in his back leg, which was
a bit more uncomfortable to place).  His cathethers are left
in place for 2-3 days, depending on what he will allow, and
he usually receives two drips in that period of
approximately 12 grams each in ringer's solution (worked up
to over time).

 

Lukey was Linus' best friend and we never expected Lukey to
die first.  A flood in Louisville back in August triggered
what we now suspect in Lukey was dry FIP, though at the time
it went undiagnosed and the focus was placed on
administering the Imulan LTCI.  Had I known we were dealing
with FIP, we may well have reversed it using the same
protocol as we used for Linus.  In fact, Lukey received two
IV vitamin C drips and with each he seemed improved, though
again, we didn't really know that we may be dealing with FIP
at that time and so I did not think to continue the
intravenous drips, thinking that they would do little to
help his nonregenerative anemia that began to appear weeks
after his initial possible FIP symptoms of anorexia,
lethargy, borderline low lymphocyte count, and chronic fever
that we could not attribute to infection, etc.  In
retrospect, that is exactly what we should have done for the
FIP symptoms.

 

 

Sally Jewell

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest

2009-10-23 Thread S. Jewell
Belinda, 

 

You would not have heard of it, unless you follow the likes
of Robert Cathcart
 , Linus
Pauling, Hugh Riordan, Irwin Stone, and Ewan Cameron, etc.
regarding intravenous sodium ascorbate for treating disease.


 

For the past decade I have worked in the distribution of the
Pauling therapy (vitamin C/lysine) for reversing coronary
artery plaques (www.HeartTech.com
 ) and as such have many
connections in the alternative medicine circles including
groups that currently treat cancers including stage IV with
intravenous ascorbate, with frequent remissions (especially
with lymphoma).

 

I also knew about this from my familiarity with Dr.
Cathcart's protocol for intravenous vitamin C in veterinary
medicine.  See
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int
_assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm.

 

I am also acquainted with Wendell Belfield,
  DVM, now retired, who knew Linus
Pauling and who in his vet practice reversed FeLV
  in the early
stages with high dose oral vitamin C, as well as FIP, and
also hip dysplasia, distemper and parvo in dogs.

 

Lastly, again, this therapy is used at Smith Ridge
Veterinary Clinic in Salem, New York and I have consulted
with Dr. Martin Goldstein and one of his associates on
separate occasions.  

 

To my knowledge, Linus' lymphoma is not mediastinal, as
there has been no fluid retention and no chest mass.  His
spleen remains slightly enlarged, as well as his
submandibular and popliteal lymph nodes.  He is due for a
complete exam, x-rays and workup to see if his remission is
maintaining and whether we need to begin the intravenous
ascorbate again.  After his terminal diagnosis last May 2008
he underwent IV drips during June, July and August and did
fine until his foster caregiver dumped him in January of
this year and I noticed the lymph glands enlarging again
somewhat.  At that time a different vet suggested palliative
care only, though we had come too far not to try and repeat
the drips, which I did again from January through March.

 

He has had no drip since March and remains active, healthy,
and happy, though the lymph nodes are still palpable.  He
will likely get some more drips in the coming month
depending on what his next workup shows.  The drips are very
benign and do not cause him much discomfort other than
placement of the catheter.  Also, because he has received a
good number of drips the skin on his forearms has toughened
and it has become more difficult to find a place to insert
the catheter (the last was placed in his back leg, which was
a bit more uncomfortable to place).  His cathethers are left
in place for 2-3 days, depending on what he will allow, and
he usually receives two drips in that period of
approximately 12 grams each in ringer's solution (worked up
to over time).

 

Lukey was Linus' best friend and we never expected Lukey to
die first.  A flood in Louisville back in August triggered
what we now suspect in Lukey was dry FIP, though at the time
it went undiagnosed and the focus was placed on
administering the Imulan LTCI.  Had I known we were dealing
with FIP, we may well have reversed it using the same
protocol as we used for Linus.  In fact, Lukey received two
IV vitamin C drips and with each he seemed improved, though
again, we didn't really know that we may be dealing with FIP
at that time and so I did not think to continue the
intravenous drips, thinking that they would do little to
help his nonregenerative anemia that began to appear weeks
after his initial possible FIP symptoms of anorexia,
lethargy, borderline low lymphocyte count, and chronic fever
that we could not attribute to infection, etc.  In
retrospect, that is exactly what we should have done for the
FIP symptoms.

 

 

Sally Jewell

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

2009-10-23 Thread dlgegg
I NEVER HEARDOF WALMART SPECIALITY PHARMACY BEFORE.  DORLIS
 MaryChristine  wrote: 
> well, actually i very vaguely think that i might have been mentioned
> years ago in terms of getting fluids, but since i'm not sure, i
> wouldn't know where to find where i might have filed it!
> 
> MC
> 
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM, MaryChristine 
> wrote:
> > gary, is there a link to walmart's specialty pharmacy? i've never
> > heard of it as an entity before
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > MC
> >
> > --
> > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
> > Maybe That'll Make The Difference
> >
> > MaryChristine
> > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org)
> > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
> Maybe That'll Make The Difference
> 
> MaryChristine
> Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org)
> Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

2009-10-23 Thread dlgegg
COURSE, I WAS PAYING HUMAN PRICES FOR PROCRIT, BUT WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE IN 
PRICING!  DORLIS
   gary  wrote: 
> I made a "slight" error when typing below, it should say a dose is 100 units
> PER KG, not just 100 units.  How many doses one vial gives you depends on
> the size of your cat.  For mine it is 5 doses, just about enough to see if
> it is working.  You start with 3 times a week and as you approach your
> target level of hemocrit, you start cutting back to twice a week and monitor
> results and then to once a week and if you get lucky, maybe to once every 10
> - 14 days.  It just depends on how the hemocrit level responds.  Here is a
> link to an article you may find helpful.
> http://www.felinecrf.org/anaemia.htm#epogen_eprex_procrit 
> 
> Your vet is over the edge on prices, just have him call it in to the Walmart
> Specialty Pharmacy at 1-877-453-4566.  You will also need U100 insulin
> syringes, they are .5ml maximum and are marked for .01ml minimum so it is
> pretty easy to draw up the units you need.
> 
> Gary
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:31 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> How many shots does that vial give you?  I'm trying to figure out the
> expense of Epogen.  My vet quoted me $277 for Procrit and she said it was
> almost double that at the other pharmacy she uses.  I need to do the math to
> figure out how many doses that $277 is for but it sounds like your deal is
> way better.  
> 
> Amy
> 
> > I had the vet call in a prescription
> > to the Walmart Specialty Pharmacy.
> > 
> > It was $30.68 for a 1ml 2000 unit vial and they shipped it
> > FedEx overnight
> > for free.  Got it about an hour ago and have already
> > given the first shot
> > (100 units).  As long as it is given Sub-q, I do it
> > myself (shots, fluids,
> > etc.).
> > 
> > I am looking into Staph Protein A which showed a lot of
> > promise in treating
> > FeLV back in the mid 80s.  This is given with a shot
> > into the abdominal
> > cavity - I think I will be letting the vet do that.
> > 
> > Gary
> > 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

2009-10-23 Thread dlgegg
YOU GOT PROCRIT FOR $300.00.  WHERE DO YOU LIVE?  I AM IN EASTERN MISSOURI AND 
WHEN I HAD TO TAKE IT I PAID $1645.00 FOR 4 - 1MIL VIALS WHICH LASTED ME 4 
WEEKS.  AND THAT STILL WAS CHEAP THAN GOING TO THE CANCER CLINIC AND PAYING FOR 
A DRS. VISIT AND A NURSE TO GIVE IT.  THAT CAMETO $500.00 MORE FOR EACH 
INJECTION.  DORLIS
 Belinda Sauro  wrote: 
> Procrit and Epogen are the same thing, one is basically the generic of 
> the other, where I live the Procrit was $20.00 cheaper, I paid $300.00 
> for a 6 month supply of Epogen.
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest

2009-10-23 Thread Belinda Sauro

Sally,
   Did your cat specifically have mediastinal lymphoma, if so is this a 
new treatment, I have never heard of this treatment on the feline 
lymphoma list I am on??//


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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

2009-10-23 Thread dlgegg
Sharyl,  i missed the lik for anemia, could you send it again?  asking because 
Lil Bit did have a kidney infection and her count dropped 1  point.  we gave 
her fluids and anitbiotics and in 1 week, she had bounced back.  so far no 
repeats, BUT.  DORLIS
 Sharyl  wrote: 
> 
> Amy,
> Epogen is very effective for treating non-regenerative anemia.  Treatment is 
> not started until the HCT or PCV is below 20 and usually in the mid-teens. 
> The Anemia group I gave you the link for has more info on treatment protocol.
> Sharyl
> 
> --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Iva Lark Emily Seaberg  wrote:
> 
> > From: Iva Lark Emily Seaberg 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:32 AM
> > A few years ago I had a kitty with
> > Chronic Renal Failure. Towards the end he was extremely
> > anemic and we did the Epogen. I'm so glad we did it because
> > it did buy us some time. I decided to try the Epogen when it
> > became clear he was not making new blood cells, his anemia
> > became extreme and we knew that without help he would die
> > from it, a slow, lethargic and very sad death. I wanted to
> > give him a chance and the Epogen did. My vet talked to UC
> > Davis about his unique situation (he also had high blood
> > pressure and a heart problem) and we gave him a really
> > really low dose. I believe typically they give it 3-4 times
> > a week and we gave it once a week. It was such a low dose
> > the vet thought it might not work, but it did and actually
> > better than we anticipated.
> > 
> > So, I can't speak for the FeLV stuff, but I can say the
> > Epogen wasn't as evil as I was expecting to be from what I
> > had heard word of mouth. We used it very cautiously, and it
> > seemed to make a big difference. You just really have to
> > watch it, start off slow. It is easier to add treatments
> > then try and slow it down and you don't want their values
> > increasing too fast.
> > 
> > Good luck,
> > 
> > Iva
> > 
> > - Original Message - >
> > > Message: 7
> > > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Amy 
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
> > 
> > > 
> > > So I've been posting about my cat Wolfie who has been
> > losing weight since about mid 2006, from 15.4 lbs down to
> > 10.8 lbs today.  His last visit was on July 2nd and he
> > had a HCT of 29.  He also tested positive for
> > Mycoplasma haemominutum previously called Haemobartonella
> > felis small form.  He's been on doxy, pred, and
> > Pet-Tinic twice daily for almost a month.
> > > 
> > > My vet thought he looked great today and he hasn't
> > lost any weight since his last visit but he's not gaining
> > and his HCT is still going down.  We took a tiny amount
> > of blood and sent it out for a reticulocyte count. I've lost
> > almost all my leuk positives to anemia in the end (except
> > for one to lymphoma and one to neurological issues) and I'm
> > really bummed out by the news.  I was hoping treating
> > the Hemobart would help the HCT even though my vet wasn't as
> > optimistic.
> > > 
> > > I'm just wondering how most people here lose their
> > leuk positives.  It seems all of mine do so well, are
> > completely asymptomatic and then out of nowhere they stop
> > making red blood cells, the HCT starts to drop, and it is
> > downhill from there.  My vet wrote me a 10 page letter
> > on everything that could cause weight loss and anemia and we
> > have eliminated almost all the possibilities I think. 
> > We haven't done a digestive panel yet because it takes 4 mls
> > of blood and I don't want to do that with his HCT dropping.
> > If the reticulocyte test comes back and shows he is making
> > red blood cells, we will start investigating digestive
> > issues or anything else that could be causing his lower
> > HCT.  If it comes back as nonregenerative anemia, is
> > there anything I can do?  I know there is the option of
> > Epogen and I'm looking into that.  Anything else or do
> > I just spend time with him and wait?  I hate this point
> > where they are feeling fine, looking fine, and I know it's
> > only
> > > a matter of time :(  This guy has been with me
> > longer than any of my other positives and I'd do anything to
> > help him but I'm afraid there's nothing else I can do. 
> > Thoughts?
> > > 
> > > Amy
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Ellie Foster
Pat, Im so sorry to hear that. Im glad your Mandy was able to pass
peacefully, and what a wonderful life you gave her - happy, eating, purring,
until just 2 days ago. And it's because she was with you, that this was
possible. Im so sorry, it's incredibly hard to lose our animal family
members.

Ellie

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Pat Kachur  wrote:

> My little Mandy passed yesterday afternoon.  In addition to her leukemia,
> she was partially blind, totally deaf and had a benign tumor which was on
> its way to keeping her from being able to walk, and recovering from a UTI.
> But until just two days ago, she was happy, eating a lot, purring.  She
> passed very peacefully.  But, even with 6 other cats, she has left a big
> hole in my life.  I miss everything about her.  She was about 9 years old.
>
> Pat
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2009-10-23 Thread Ellie Foster
Awww, Sherry, Im so very sorry.You gave her some wonderful words, and I know
that already she is beautifully happy, completely well, watching over you,
and with you, even if you can't see her any longer. I really do think it's
always hardest on those of us who remain, and who will one day be the ones
who have to "catch up" with our animal family who have gone ahead of us.

Ellie
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Re: [Felvtalk] How to long to separate negative/positive kitties?

2009-10-23 Thread dlgegg
hllo, i am a little late with my 2 cents, but.  i tried isolating my first 
felv+, Annie and everyone in the house was miserable.  my vet told me, along 
with everyone on this list that if everyone else had their felv shots up to 
date, there was little cause for alarm.  since then, a stray showed up at my 
house with her tail bitten off by a raccoon.  i was in the middle of going back 
and frth to hospital with my Mary who had a stroke so i took her to the vet, 
said check her out and i will back in a day or 2 to get her.  she was positive. 
 he gave her rabies, etc, dressed the tail which has healed nicely, told me se 
was positive and sent her home with me.  i have had Annie since 2008 and no one 
else has become positive.  she and Nitnoy are both fat, sassy  healthy cats.  
Dr. Rhodes said that i should not let them and negative cats mutual groom, just 
in case.  they all eat and drink fom the same bowls, use same litter boxes and 
the only thing that came up was Homie is overweight and needs to go on a diet.  
that means they all will.  no more "at will" feeding.  he also got a new treat 
"Enisyl-F Lysine" to boose everyone's immune system.  i tried it and everyone 
loves it.  just have to cut them in half for Lil Bit because they are a bit 
large for her.  you could try this for your babies to keep their immune systems 
up.  prayers for you and yours.  dorlis

 Iva Lark Emily Seaberg  wrote: 
> Thank you everyone for the warm welcome! It was very reassuring to read all 
> of your posts, especially those with multi-cat mixed households. I spoke to 
> the vet this morning and she was actually ok with my decision, but she wants 
> me to keep my positive kitty isolated for now. She didn't say how long, 
> though I know she is hoping for indefinitely. We are putting Becca on 
> antibiotics for her oral inflammation and then steroids, which I know will 
> temporarily decrease her immune system more but could be worth it in helping 
> her fight the virus back? 
>  
> Anyway, here is my dilemna. Currently, Becca is isolated in my master 
> bedroom/bath. All the cats are unhappy about this. The two negative kitties 
> sit outside the door and reach their paws under to her. They meow at me with 
> a clear "Umm, Mom we want our sister back." and they try and sneak in there. 
> She in turn tries to sneak out and is seeming a bit down. She's exceptionally 
> affectionate when we go in there, more so than usual, but she's not eating as 
> much and seems almost a bit depressed. She kept me up all night trying to 
> love on me. I also know it is a small space and can get lonely. Now, I've 
> read what everyone said about stressing her and I don't want to do that, so 
> here's my dilemna. How long should she be quarantined for? The negative 
> kitties JUST got their first vaccine on Friday and won't be at full 
> protection until they get their boosters in 2.5 weeks. Should I keep her in 
> there until at least then? Should I just let her out now? I really
>  really want to minimize the negative's risk of exposure because I don't want 
> them to be infected. 
>  
> I did read the articles everyone mentioned and it was still unclear to me 
> where in the articles it says that it is safe to expose a negative to a 
> positive. It still said they could infect, but no odds were mentioned, so 
> therefore they should be separated. See below:
>  
> "Uninfected cats in a household with infected cats should be vaccinated; 
> however, other means of protecting uninfected cats (eg, physical separation) 
> should also be used. Constant exposure to FeLV-infected cats is likely to 
> result in viral transmission regardless of vaccination status." 
>  
> "In ~70% of adult cats, viremia and virus shedding are transient, lasting 
> only 1-16 wk. A few cats continue to shed virus in secretions for several 
> weeks to months after they cease to be viremic. Virus may persist in bone 
> marrow for a longer period, but even this latent, or sequestered, infection 
> usually disappears within 6 mo. Some FeLV-exposed cats (~30%) do not mount an 
> adequate immune response and go on to become persistently (ie, permanently) 
> viremic. Persistently viremic cats develop fatal diseases after a variable 
> time period"
>  
> What if she's just now in the shedding stage? Is she considered persisently 
> viremic at this point as she's had gum issues for a few months? Does that 
> mean she is currently shedding the virus?
>  
> I almost wonder if the positives that aren't infecting the negatives aren't 
> at the viral shedding stage.  Is it really safe to expose the other kitties? 
> Should I keep her quarantined for the next 2.5 weeks or does it really 
> matter? I'm torn. On one hand I don't want to stress her unnecessarily, 
> especially when I'm about to have to give her antibiotics twice a day and 
> steroids twice a day. She is going to hate that. I don't want her to lose 
> weight either, she's always been a tiny, dainty thing and she doe

Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest

2009-10-23 Thread Belinda Sauro

 Hi James,
It sounds like Mediastinal (thymic) large B cell lymphoma, it 
usually hits younger cats and is very aggressive.  Here on our Feline 
Lymphoma website are some case studies on this type of lymphoma, it is 
one of those that usually responds well to chemo  and has a good 
survival rate.  But it is very aggressive and treatment needs to be 
started yesterday if that is what it turns out to be.  Look at the case 
studies under Mediastinal Lymphoma [chest cavity], Zoe Belle didn't do 
as well as the others but most did pretty good and got years of remission.


http://felinelymphoma.org/cases.html

This is a very knowledgeable and supportive list, I am on it for years 
when my Buddie was diagnosed with liver cancer.


http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_lymphoma/

I'm really sorry to hear this devastating news about LG.

--

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

http://bemikitties.com

http://BelindaSauro.com


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Re: [Felvtalk] Mandy

2009-10-23 Thread Pat Kachur
Diane, She was a truly remarkable little kitty and I am glad I knew her 
for the two and a half years she spent with us.


Thank you for your message.

Pat
- Original Message - 
From: "Diane Rosenfeldt" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mandy



Pat, I'm so sorry you lost Mandy. She sounds like a wonderful little
trouper. Best Bridge vibes to her and a big hug to you.

Diane R.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

My little Mandy passed yesterday afternoon.  In addition to her leukemia,
she was partially blind, totally deaf and had a benign tumor which was on
its way to keeping her from being able to walk, and recovering from a UTI.
But until just two days ago, she was happy, eating a lot, purring.  She
passed very peacefully.  But, even with 6 other cats, she has left a big
hole in my life.  I miss everything about her.  She was about 9 years old.



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[Felvtalk] Mandy

2009-10-23 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Pat, I'm so sorry you lost Mandy. She sounds like a wonderful little
trouper. Best Bridge vibes to her and a big hug to you.

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

My little Mandy passed yesterday afternoon.  In addition to her leukemia,
she was partially blind, totally deaf and had a benign tumor which was on
its way to keeping her from being able to walk, and recovering from a UTI. 
But until just two days ago, she was happy, eating a lot, purring.  She
passed very peacefully.  But, even with 6 other cats, she has left a big
hole in my life.  I miss everything about her.  She was about 9 years old.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Laurieskatz
Pat, I am so sorry to hear about your Mandy. She had many challenges, bless
her brave heart. I am glad she was good so recently so you can have that
memory to comfort. Every cat is different and I have a different
relationship with each cat. I know what you are saying. Mandy had a long
life with so many issues. 
Peace,
L 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

My little Mandy passed yesterday afternoon.  In addition to her leukemia, 
she was partially blind, totally deaf and had a benign tumor which was on 
its way to keeping her from being able to walk, and recovering from a UTI. 
But until just two days ago, she was happy, eating a lot, purring.  She 
passed very peacefully.  But, even with 6 other cats, she has left a big 
hole in my life.  I miss everything about her.  She was about 9 years old.

Pat
- Original Message - 
From: "Laurieskatz" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(


Sherry, I am so sorry to hear you had to let your little girl go. I like
what you told her about her short sleep and your mom. I can tell she was
loved. The ones that talk leave big noise holes in our lives. It was so
deathly quiet after Keisha passed. She purred constantly ...a very large
purr. Even though I had five other cats and have six again, it's a lot
quieter here now.
Laurie and tribe

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:33 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

My heart is heavy this morning.My beautiful Mystique had to cross the bridge
yesterday.She was with me for almost 2 yrs and had the happiest and sweetest
personality.She always talked to me and followed me everywhere.I told her
she is going to go to sleep for a short time and when she wakes up my mom
will be there waiting for her to carry on loving her,and she will not be
sick any longer.She has MANY wonderful souls up there with her.In a way I
guess she is the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki Tiki Boom Booms.

Sherry





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than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way"



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Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS

2009-10-23 Thread Lorrie
Sherry,  I'm so sorry you lost Mystique.  I know how sad you
are, as I've gone through these losses so many times, and 
you never get hardened to it.  It hurts terribly every time
we lose one of our babies.

Lorrie

On 10-23, Sherry DeHaan wrote:

> My heart is heavy this morning.My beautiful Mystique had to cross
> the bridge yesterday. She was with me for almost 2 yrs and had the
> happiest and sweetest personality. She always talked to me and
> followed me everywhere. I told her she is going to go to sleep for a
> short time and when she wakes up my mom will be there waiting for
> her to carry on loving her,and she will not be sick any longer.She
> has MANY wonderful souls up there with her.In a way I guess she is
> the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki Tiki Boom Booms. Sherry ? ?
> 
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Pat Kachur
My little Mandy passed yesterday afternoon.  In addition to her leukemia, 
she was partially blind, totally deaf and had a benign tumor which was on 
its way to keeping her from being able to walk, and recovering from a UTI. 
But until just two days ago, she was happy, eating a lot, purring.  She 
passed very peacefully.  But, even with 6 other cats, she has left a big 
hole in my life.  I miss everything about her.  She was about 9 years old.


Pat
- Original Message - 
From: "Laurieskatz" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(


Sherry, I am so sorry to hear you had to let your little girl go. I like
what you told her about her short sleep and your mom. I can tell she was
loved. The ones that talk leave big noise holes in our lives. It was so
deathly quiet after Keisha passed. She purred constantly ...a very large
purr. Even though I had five other cats and have six again, it's a lot
quieter here now.
Laurie and tribe

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:33 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

My heart is heavy this morning.My beautiful Mystique had to cross the bridge
yesterday.She was with me for almost 2 yrs and had the happiest and sweetest
personality.She always talked to me and followed me everywhere.I told her
she is going to go to sleep for a short time and when she wakes up my mom
will be there waiting for her to carry on loving her,and she will not be
sick any longer.She has MANY wonderful souls up there with her.In a way I
guess she is the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki Tiki Boom Booms.

Sherry





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than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way"



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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest

2009-10-23 Thread Tower Laboratories Corporation
James, 

My cat FeLV+ Linus has had an excellent response to
intravenous sodium ascorbate (non-corn vitamin C from McGuff
Labs) (worked up to 1 gram per pound of body weight) for his
FeLV+ induced lymphosarcoma and has in fact now lived 1.5
years beyond the time when the vet said he would have
expired from the cancer without the drips.  

I would be happy to provide the protocol particulars
(provided to me by Smith Ridge Veterinary Clinic in Salem,
New York) if you think your cat could handle the fluid load
of the twice weekly infusions and his kidneys functioning
well enough to void the fluid.  It is also important that
the cat be eating in order to have the vitamin C drips
because of the possibility of low blood sugar but otherwise
the drips are very safe and seemingly without side effects.
Lymphoma is one of the most responsive cancers to this
treatment.  

Sally Jewell



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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest

2009-10-23 Thread Tower Laboratories Corporation
James, 

My cat FeLV+ Linus has had an excellent response to
intravenous sodium ascorbate (non-corn vitamin C from McGuff
Labs) (worked up to 1 gram per pound of body weight) for his
FeLV+ induced lymphosarcoma and has in fact now lived 1.5
years beyond the time when the vet said he would have
expired from the cancer without the drips.  

I would be happy to provide the protocol particulars
(provided to me by Smith Ridge Veterinary Clinic in Salem,
New York) if you think your cat could handle the fluid load
of the twice weekly infusions and his kidneys functioning
well enough to void the fluid.  It is also important that
the cat be eating in order to have the vitamin C drips
because of the possibility of low blood sugar but otherwise
the drips are very safe and seemingly without side effects.
Lymphoma is one of the most responsive cancers to this
treatment.  

Sally Jewell



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Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Laurieskatz
Sherry, I am so sorry to hear you had to let your little girl go. I like
what you told her about her short sleep and your mom. I can tell she was
loved. The ones that talk leave big noise holes in our lives. It was so
deathly quiet after Keisha passed. She purred constantly ...a very large
purr. Even though I had five other cats and have six again, it's a lot
quieter here now.
Laurie and tribe

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:33 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

My heart is heavy this morning.My beautiful Mystique had to cross the bridge
yesterday.She was with me for almost 2 yrs and had the happiest and sweetest
personality.She always talked to me and followed me everywhere.I told her
she is going to go to sleep for a short time and when she wakes up my mom
will be there waiting for her to carry on loving her,and she will not be
sick any longer.She has MANY wonderful souls up there with her.In a way I
guess she is the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki Tiki Boom Booms.

Sherry
 
 


 
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Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way"


  
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[Felvtalk] Mystique

2009-10-23 Thread mary (merlin) marshall
Hi Sherry,

I am so sorry for your loss.  Why is it the sweetest ones seem to spend such a 
fleeting time in our lives?

She was surrounded by love and I know loved you in return.

She will always be with you in your heart.

Merlin

Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:33:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sherry DeHaan 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mystique  Please add to the CLS  :(
To: Felvtalk 
Message-ID: <967855.64725...@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

My heart is heavy this morning.My beautiful Mystique had to cross the bridge 
yesterday.She was with me for almost 2 yrs and had the happiest and sweetest 
personality.She always talked to me and followed me everywhere.I told her she 
is going to go to sleep for a short time and when she wakes up my mom will be 
there waiting for her to carry on loving her,and she will not be sick any 
longer.She has MANY wonderful souls up there with her.In a way I guess she is 
the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki Tiki Boom Booms.
Sherry
?


  


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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest

2009-10-23 Thread Laurieskatz
Jame,
I am sorry to hear this...
Keisha (feLv-) had fluid buildup around her lungs. She had congestive heart
failure.
There were some cancer cells in her lungs, too. 
This may or may not be relevant.
Prayers for LG and you
Laurie

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Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest

Hey all, 

Sorry for the off-topic post. But, my male cat, LG, is sick. 
Took him to the vet this morning because he wasn't 
breathing right. He had 288cc's of fluid built up around his 
heart and lungs :( :( :(  They drained the fluid, and his 
color came back almost immediately. He's on prednisone 
and a diuretic to help curb the fluid buildup... 
Unfortunately, there were lots of leukocytes in the fluid 
which means a great chance of lymphatic cancer :( :( :(  
The prednisone is giving him his appetite back at least. 
He hadn't eaten in two days now... And, he was already 
too thin. 

Does anyone here have any experience with all of this? 
LG is twelve years old and quite healthy otherwise. 
Thanks for any and all assistance. Best wishes to 
everyone!

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
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[Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest

2009-10-23 Thread James G Wilson
Hey all, 

Sorry for the off-topic post. But, my male cat, LG, is sick. 
Took him to the vet this morning because he wasn't 
breathing right. He had 288cc's of fluid built up around his 
heart and lungs :( :( :(  They drained the fluid, and his 
color came back almost immediately. He's on prednisone 
and a diuretic to help curb the fluid buildup... 
Unfortunately, there were lots of leukocytes in the fluid 
which means a great chance of lymphatic cancer :( :( :(  
The prednisone is giving him his appetite back at least. 
He hadn't eaten in two days now... And, he was already 
too thin. 

Does anyone here have any experience with all of this? 
LG is twelve years old and quite healthy otherwise. 
Thanks for any and all assistance. Best wishes to 
everyone!

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Belinda Sauro
   I'm so sorry for your loss Sherry, I have added Mystique to the 
candle light service.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Sharyl
Sherry I was saddened to read that Mystique has crossed the Rainbow Bridge.  
Sweet dreams you little darling.
Sharyl

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Sherry DeHaan  wrote:

> From: Sherry DeHaan 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Mystique  Please add to the CLS  :(
> To: "Felvtalk" 
> Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 6:33 AM
> My heart is heavy this morning.My
> beautiful Mystique had to cross the bridge yesterday.She was
> with me for almost 2 yrs and had the happiest and sweetest
> personality.She always talked to me and followed me
> everywhere.I told her she is going to go to sleep for a
> short time and when she wakes up my mom will be there
> waiting for her to carry on loving her,and she will not be
> sick any longer.She has MANY wonderful souls up there with
> her.In a way I guess she is the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki
> Tiki Boom Booms.
> Sherry
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
> "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more
> temporary
> than our own,
> Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
> Unable to accept its awful gaps.
> We still would have it no other way"
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
I'm so very sorry, Sherry. Gentle Bridge vibes to Mystique and hugs to you.
I'm sure your mom will be very happy to see her.

Diane R. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:33 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

My heart is heavy this morning.My beautiful Mystique had to cross the bridge
yesterday.She was with me for almost 2 yrs and had the happiest and sweetest
personality.She always talked to me and followed me everywhere.I told her
she is going to go to sleep for a short time and when she wakes up my mom
will be there waiting for her to carry on loving her,and she will not be
sick any longer.She has MANY wonderful souls up there with her.In a way I
guess she is the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki Tiki Boom Booms.
Sherry
 
 


 
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Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way"


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Debbie Harrison

Sherry, I am so sorry...we share your pain.  Godspeed, little Mystique!

Debbie (COL)
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle"  Philo


 
> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:33:12 -0700
> From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(
> 
> My heart is heavy this morning.My beautiful Mystique had to cross the bridge 
> yesterday.She was with me for almost 2 yrs and had the happiest and sweetest 
> personality.She always talked to me and followed me everywhere.I told her she 
> is going to go to sleep for a short time and when she wakes up my mom will be 
> there waiting for her to carry on loving her,and she will not be sick any 
> longer.She has MANY wonderful souls up there with her.In a way I guess she is 
> the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki Tiki Boom Booms.
> Sherry
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
> "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
> than our own,
> Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
> Unable to accept its awful gaps.
> We still would have it no other way"
> 
> 
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[Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Sherry DeHaan
My heart is heavy this morning.My beautiful Mystique had to cross the bridge 
yesterday.She was with me for almost 2 yrs and had the happiest and sweetest 
personality.She always talked to me and followed me everywhere.I told her she 
is going to go to sleep for a short time and when she wakes up my mom will be 
there waiting for her to carry on loving her,and she will not be sick any 
longer.She has MANY wonderful souls up there with her.In a way I guess she is 
the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki Tiki Boom Booms.
Sherry
 
 


 
"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way"


  
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