Re: Passwords

Hi do we need to subscribe again - I couldn't see anything about getting new passwords for already subscribed - but that might be just me. Thanks Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy & Angel Bramble -Original Message- From: James G Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Mysterio Please add to the CLS

So sorry to hear of Mysterio going to the bridge - Mysterio will a fluffy cushion and be happy and healthy - I'll ask my angel Buddy and Angel Bramble to give Mysterio an angel kiss xxx

Boo Boo

Good job Boo Boo came to you when he did. There's so much good information and experience from people here and I can't add to it cos I tend to ask questions when needed co sof the experience of people here. At least he is safe now and free from those dreadful ignorant previous owners who sou

Overjoyed

Laurie Minstrel was in sanctuary with now Angel Buddy (FIV+) when they were first tested and from what i gather they were both tested around 6 months of age - obviously Buddy was FIV and Minstrel tested positive for FeLV - I assume they used the in house SNAP test at that point. From what I ga

Overjoyed

Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe.?Last Friday she had 3

Miller Please add to the CLS

Sorry to hear about Miller - so many new angels flying above us playing together at the bridge. Miller will be back to full health now and keeping your cushion warm until the day you're reunited. Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy & Angel Bramble

Rudy

Sorry to hear of Rudy's passing - I'll ask Buddy to chase Rudy around too now that they are at the bridge playing with full health restored xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy & Angel Bramble AOL's new homepage has launched.

Teddy

Sorry to hear about Teddy Laurie - it's the hardest decision to make you do know when it's right xx He'll be playing with his friends and Buddy is probably chasing him around to - she liked chasing xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy & Angel Bramble

Please Add Buddy to Candlelight Service

Buddy has gone to rainbow bridge to collect her angel wings tonight. She is on her bed at the moment looking peaceful and I will take her to the pet crematorium tomorrow then bring her ashes home. Infection overwhelmed her and wouldn't respond to antibiotics and she got to be in too much

Buddy

Has anyone used interferon omega recently in UK - if so how much does is cost you per box of 5 vials. Vet quoted me £1500 for a course - one week on - one off and one week after and then a week 2 months later. Seems a lot more than what I paid last time. I can't afford £1500 and the sanctu

Buddy

I have been pushing sanctuary to help fund interferon but they try to hold off it cos of the cost as the omega in UK is expensive. That's why I went to stamp my feet and demand they help cos they tell you to act fast and say they help with vets and then don't allow you to look after the anima

Prayers Please

Hi everybody Unfortunately I've returned fo rno so good reasons. Xmas day my Buddy (4.5years) cams down sick. She would hardly eat and was hiding most of day. she seemed to want to lick food but was too sore to swallow so she couldn't bear it - and she was gulping like when we have a sor

Re: Toby's death

I feel physically sick having just read of poor Toby's plight - I hadn't seen that and not sure if I am pleased I read it or not (only good thing is I will be signing the petition). The poor baby, how anyone can can hit an animal to hurt it is beyond me but what they did is just pure evil. I

Mama Kitty

So sorry to hear mama kitty has passed - my heart goes out to you and no it's not crazy to hear her purrs - you always do what is best for them and feel the bond with them and she is still with you. I haven't heard my angel kitties purr but I sure did see Bramble move past me from the corner

Slinky - sad news

Awww your story of telling slinky about friends at the bridge has just raised a few memories of my previous kitties. It is heartbreaking to go through this and my heart goes out to you and Slinky. Slinky will know you have done everything possible and are still helping him to feel better by

Mignight and CRF

I can't add anymor ethna what has already been said. Cats can life a good few years with chronic renal failure and can be comfortable if they receive the correct treatment. Some cats tolerate fluids well but a few don't - you have to be patient and appear confident and explain everything to

OT - Help cat crying at night

Unfortunately your crowded little house probably made him feel more secure. He will have been aware of the other cats and could even be crying to try and communicate with the other cats and be distressed because they are not there. He is obviously distressed and I feel like everyone else needs t

Whitey close to the bridge

Kelly my thoughts and prayers go out to and your dear animals. It is unbearable to watch them slipping away and so so hard to have to make the decision to help them pass. Whitey will now you are there and will be happy to have you there knowing how much you love him. Sometimes the hardest th

14 cats to be tested

Here's hoping that no other cats have FeLV. But if any do then it's good they have the best chance and best care because they have you xxx A kitties life is better full of love and tlc no matter how short or long that may be xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

Tig is Back

Thanks all for your help. I again asked my angels to help guide Tig home last night as I still talk to my angel animals who have passed. We also have had a little glass guardian angel that my friend bought me next to a wooden cat that I got her as it looked like Tig. I did the meditation of lass

Tig is missing

Thanks all for responses in relation to Tig. She is still missing but your advice has been good and I will print things out and give it to my friend. We went out sticking posters up around the area and posting leaflets. It was more heartbreaking seeing Tig's Sister Missy - she was so confused

Tig is Missing

I'd just like to ask people to add Tig to their prayers. My best friend has too sweet little kitties - Tig & Missy they are not FeLV but are still very much loved and cared. " days ago Tig went missing from her back garden - she never usually goes away from the garden and doesn't care to be out

Lucy CLS

SO sorry to hear of Lucy's passing but it sounds as peaceful and quick a passing as possible which is what we all wish for our fur babies in the end. The angels will guide her and she will always be with you in your heart. Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel & Angel Bramble

Quality of Life

I too have talked to my cats on more than one occassion to ask how they feel so I don't think your mad Nina. But I agree with letting them explore a little at a time and if you can put up a screen that they can see each other through before introducing them that sometimes can help as Nina said.

Minstral (Nina)

Hi Nina Minstral hasn't gone on antibiotics at the moment. I will watch her closely for a couple of days and try to look at her mouth again after that period - if she has worsened then I will take her to the boss vet cos he is great - but he only works 2 days a week. She is a very difficult ca

I'm back

Hello All Sorry I've been a silent member for a while due to work etc... but I am unfortunately back now and will be for a while. Just had Minstral to the vets cos I noticed a very subtle behaviour change - she became more affectionate to me and scratched her jaw a bit more than usual

Sign from Allie and 5 day old kitten

Sign from Allie   I do think you are right to believe that this was a sign from Allie. I had signs from Tidge and Bramble when I needed to be comforted and also one of my dear departed dogs. She is at peace is wants you to be at ease.   5 day old kitten   Another rescue Hideyo - you are wonder

Virus Warning

Just thought I'd better spread this warning around as you are all in my address book.   If you should receive an email that appears to be from my email address that says I have set up my own website and asks you to check if it works and if you can see the video PLEASE DO NOT OPEN IT !!!   My

Bella's baby died

Hideyo   From what you say it sounds as though this baby was in trouble and on her way to dying anyway. When they fail to gain weight and temperature is abnormal it is not a good sign. I saw a day old baby being warmed and fed and everything possible was done but she died because she is sick

Re: My Bella's baby died

Hideyo   So sorry to hear of your despair but you are a great Kittie mom. I don't know what happened but I know you would never intend to hurt a kittie. You did what you thought right at the time. Sometimes we need to intervene and something must have been wrong for you to interveme to try an

Bella had babies

Congrats - Bella must be so proud and you too of course. The kittiens sound so sweet - long and happy life prayes to you all.   Michelle, Minstrel, buddy & Angel Bramble

Stray

So sorry to hear of what happened to stray. Such a sad but beautifully written account that was filled with emotion. I believe euthanasia was right for stray - I have heard of Saddle Thrombosis before and yes it is exceptionally painful for the kittie - too painful for them to keep on enduring inde

Bruce

I'd just like to share the loss of a friend. My cousin's Bulldog Bruce died yesterday. He was a beautiful boy with such a cheeky character. He was just 2 years old - he got sick and after tests at the vets they found he had developed acute leukemia - he died within days of that result. I neve

Pookie

I am so shocked to hear this Kerry.   I would probably have agreed to euthanase in that situation by choice to help my kittie to stop suffering if they were not breathing properly due to tumors and lung fluid at age 16 but I can't imagine that choice being taken away from me. I would be the o

Miss Priss & Kerry

Janine so so sorry to hear about your mom and your dear little miss priss. My prayers are with you. They will be helping each other in their new life now.   Kerry - I had'nt realised your father was terminally ill too as I am catching up with mail - Positive thoughts coming your way too.   Mi

lil rascal & humiliating experience & Minstrel

Lil Rascal   Kerry I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. You too have had so many losses in such a short space of time. Everyone experiences it differently to our kitties are unique to us but I certainly can empathise with the loss of you r dear departed kitties. I hope you can take comfort in k

Jake has gone

Sorry sorry to hear of Jake's passing but I believe you did all you could and yes the wishing you could have found him earlier is normal. I only had Bramble 6 months and tried so hard for him but alas I too only found him when he was already sick. It makes you angry that other people didn't c

Football

Yes Wendy Football/Soccer - I'm in the UK Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel, Angel Bramble

Michelle L

I have misread the Michelle L messages - sorry. I am Michelle L too Michelle Lomax and Michelle L is Michelle Lerner. I sign things at work Michelle L so apologies for the mix up. Yes agree it's hard losing your furbabies and especially so close together - I lost 3 animals last year so I can rel

Michelle L

Thanks Wendy I'm fine I'm currently busy job  hunting as my contract expires next month. I'd give up and go into animal rescue if I could afford to but alas I can't. My two kitties at the moment have a mild dose of the sneezes but they carry calici. Must share this story - My friend has 2 x 8 mo

Ginger is Gone

Michelle I'm so sorry to hear that Ginger did not recover. Everything was done for her and she stayed so long because she was loved and cared for by you. What a lovely place to bury her too. My eyes filled up readig about her as they often do when the kitties here cross to the bridge. SHe is

losses and Ginger

My thoughts to keep the souls rested of Mr Kitty, Red Man and Buffy go out as do my condolences to the kitty parents.   Also healing thoughts going to Ginger   Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel, & Angel Bramble

Rudy

Rudy sounds such a special litlle furbaby - sorry she has gone but glad she found you when she did. I do believe that cats sometimes choose us to be their parents and it's a huge compliment when they choose to stay.   Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy, & Angel Bramble

Manual

Yes I got it thanks Wendy. Haven't read it yet though. Thanks Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

Manual

I haven't got it yet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

OJ and Scotch

Tad and Amy I'm so sorry to hear of your losses - Tad you of OJ and Amy you of Scotch - it's heartbreaking but I'm pleased they had you as parents until the end - they had all the love and best care possible.   God bless their souls   Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel & Angel Bramble

Heart Murmer

Bramble had a heart Murmer and he was treated in the sanctuary for 2 years before I got him - he was medication called Fortekor (brand name) he was on 5mg per day and the heart murmer was barely noticeable to vets when they listened once his medication was working. Bramble is no longer with us as m

Another disaster

Hideyo - I am glad you found out who it is. Is there anyway you could put some sort of roofing over your back you - some form of strong opaque plastic or the stuff they use on shed roofs. So long as it is on an angle the rain will drain off.   Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

Disaster

Oh that is so awful Hideyo. Sounds like this woman who keeps complaining needs to get a life of her own and leave you alone. You are doing a wonderful job for these kitties and this woman is just plain ignorant. I agree that a letter fromn your lawyer would carry more weight but that may also fuel

Kitty with sudden back leg problem

Sounds like Ataxia. Tidge had it towards the end of her FIV. There are different causes of it including tumor or disk problems. Sometimes with FIV the infection spreads to the CNS which can cause it but not sure if thisw is the same for FeLV. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

Sick Kitties

So many kitties sick again - my thoughts are going out to you all. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy, & Angel Bramble

Pray for Black Cat

I don't know this Black Cat personally but I'd like it if people could pray to keep it's soul rested. On my way to work this morning and was driving along the motorway when I saw a black furball rolling - then it moved. It was a black kittie just been hit and it was trying to run off but it's

Starman and Cricket

Starman Positive thoughts going out to Starman - I will say a prayer.   Waiting for Cricket to visit I agree when you are waiting and trying to see (in this case Cricket) you close yourself off because the spirit cannot access your soul as it is too occupied (well that's my theory). When Tidge

Poem

Glad you liked the poem and sorry for making you cry but I guess when something comes deep from the heart then it is inevitable that others experiencing the same will cry - I still do. It's nice to be able to share it here because general public would think it was over the top for losing a ca

Virtual friend

Someone put this on the FIV group - he is cute - he purrs when you pet his chest with the cursor and chases it when it's above his head   http://www.broenink-art.nl/maukie2.swf   Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel & Angel Bramble

Tiggie

So sorry to hear Tiggie passed over - she is at peace now.   Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel & Angel Bramble

Here's the Poem I wrote after losing Tidge for those who wanted to see it.

Poem for Little Tidge   We found each other wandering - I gave you shelter from the storm The misfortunes life had dealt you left you frightened and withdrawn Our lives combined, our love grew strong, and you knew that you were saved From past neglect and heartache when love was all you ev

Ducky & Sweet Angel Sam & Ewok

Oh I'm so sorry to hear of Sweet Angel Sam and Ducky crossing to Rainbow Bridge - so many losses lately yet again - this blasted disease is so heartbreaking but on the other if our kitties had been in the hands of others their short lives may have been much worse so I'm sure they would rather

Feeling of family ongroup

I know that my kitties are not symptomatic at the moment so I am not very active on group but I do always read the posts and I just wanted to pick up on something Kerry wrote to Jen when she said "I'm crying with you". It's true that everytime one of our fur babies is ill or crosses to the bri

Ewok

So sorry to hear of you having to say goodbye to Ewok but I'm pleased he is no longer in pain. It is so difficult and I understand that the pain will be fresh for a while and you will tell us about it when you are ready. Thoughts are with you to help ease yur pain and with Ewok that is soul is a

Ewok

Jenn I'm sorry to hear the news of Ewok's decline. I know how hard you have both fought together. He had every chance and the best care from you and I'm sure he knows it. I'm also sure you will know when he is too tired and wishes to cross and can be there with him. As I went through with Brambl

Great News

Hideyo - that is wonderful news - thank godness this year is starting off well for you and I hope it continues. I hope everyone else here has a good year too with positive thoughts going out to all the poorly kitties and restful vibes going to the souls of those we've lost.   Michelle, Minstr

Bailey and OT

Prayers that Bailey improves fast for you Belinda - so difficult when they are not wanting to eat - your heart just sinks. OT My friend has a 9 month old persian (blue) kitten. For the last 2 months he has let it out in to his back garden and watched it wandering around but a few days ago it j

Patches & Lucy

Michelle I send positive thoughts to you and your dear kitties. I dispute the people who said you are the wrong sort of person to take in 6FeLV+ cats. You are exactly the right kind of person because you care and will make sure the kitties get eternal love and the proper care they deserve. I am

Mixed topics

Here is one of usual mixed topic messages.   Calico Yes male calico cats are rare as they only occur due to genetic mutation.   Ewok So good to hear Ewok is doing well Jenn - hope he continues to be better for some time yet although I understand how it feels to be thinking of what time you ha

Frederico

Tad that is wonderful of you to take in Frederico - so pleased he will have a happy loving home.   Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel & Angel Bramble

FIV and calico

Both female cats that I have had with FIV (still have Buddy) were and are calico   Michelle

Merry Xmas

Merry Christmas everybody. Here's a wish that all our members and furbabies stay healthy and have a great xmas. Hideyo - I hope that you too manage to have a good xmas without too many worries about your current ongoin legal battle and hope that everything turns out well for you and you kitti

Hallmark Xmas Card & Josie

Sandy this cheered my day at work - it made me laugh so much I've sent it around to others here too. Thanks Did I mention here that we were getting a dog called Josie at the weekend - well we did and I was hearbroken as we had to return her to the sanctuary the following day - it was awful. I

1) Callie and 2) FIV/FeLV

1) I'm so sorry to hear of Callie passing to the bridge Tad. It's a heartwrenching experience to have to send them there but Callie was a lucky girl to have a family who fought with her and loved her until the end and who eased her pain when she so needed to let go. She will always be a part

Eating disorder

I have also used periactin with good results but have used it with not much effect to - it depends on the cat and can be very good in many cases. I am wondering about the amitryptilline though. I maybe thinking completely wrong here because I am going off how antidepressents work in humans -

Eating disorder

Will she eat baby food with a vitamin supplement added and a taurine supplement - at least that way she is getting some of what she needs.   Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

Eating disorder

Poor kittie - how awful to see all your buddies and owners shot and for those who got shot and killed or paralysed too - people are so cruel. Usually I'd suggest assist feeding but the kittie is obviously traumatised and so forcing food would probably just induce more stress. Have you tried f

Callie

Tad I'm adding my healing thoughts to help Callie. I'm so please as you must be that you found her and was able to help and comfort her when she needed it most. Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel & Angel Bramble

euthanizing kitties for bathroom habits

This makes me very sick too. I had no idea how common this was - humans are the cruelest beings to ever walk the planet. Is it any wonder we prefer the company of our animals. Bad toilet habits can be due to many things as we know - people should be required to take a basic animal healthcare ex

Toilet training

There are a few things that I'd like to ask if you've tried. 1) plug in pherimones - sometimes relaxes the animal so they don't get so territorial. Are there any other animals sharing the house (their patch)? if so put them in one room so that they develop a sense of security and keep that roo

Toilet training

I'm not sure Kerry but I'll have a search around and report back. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

Rebecca

Hi Rebecca Injecting at home is good if you can manage - much less stress. I can't remember if your kitties are vegan or not. Alternatively if you cat will eat chicken or anything that is manageable if your cat is vegan - (I have to do this to when I give mine tablets now). I put minute amounts

M.G. passing

I am so sorry that your M.G. passed so soon. However, I'm sure given the option she wouldn't change a thing. She had the best care and love possible in her short time. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy, & Angel Bramble

Test Results

I have never gone into blood test results too much before but am intrgued from the ones recently put up by Carrie (if I remember correctly). Please could someone be so kind as to educate me as to what they all mean and what is normal and abnormal - send privately if it is too long for group mail

Evil Vegan

Yes good post Rebecca. I agree it is about respecting each others choices and not pushing our beliefs onto other people. I have been lucky this time around. I have been vegetarian for 22 years and in that time been vegan twice - once at 15 until I was 18 and then again for the last year and this

Carrie

If it was just the revolution it should have at least calmed calmed dow after one month but as I discovered the revolution exacerbated what were mild ataxia and seizures in Bramble into full blown seizure with involuntary motor movements - he muscles were rigid and he was terrified. Luckily afte

Mix of subjects

Firstly - Yes when people were kindly offering advice about nutrition and recipees for liver shakes etc - I was struggling with cans of fish - at arms length wrapping kitchen roll around it so I didn't get fish oil on me. My cats had to take medication in ready cooked sliced chicken because I

Welcome Rebecca

Hi Rebecca Welcome to group. I too am 30 and vegan although I work in Psychology not audiology. My animals are not vegan although my dog goes mad for carrots. All 3 of my dogs went mad for carrots but I only have 1 left now - the others had to be put to sleep due to old age related ailments. In

Lancelot

So sorry to hear of Lancelot passing to the bridge Gloria. It is so heartwrenching but he knew he was loved and he had the best time possible with you. Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel, & Angel Bramble

bloody nose

It feels like I keep going on about Calicivirus but it's not my intention - honest. When I had Bramble he used to sneeze blood with calici virus. He didn't get the typical blisters in mouth etc... he got an ulcer on his nose and sneezed blood about 2 weeks before nasal discharge appeared and t

Garfunkle

That is such good news about Garfunkle - I'm so pleased he decided he didn't want to go to the bridge just yet. Keep it up Garfunkle xx Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy, & Angel Bramble

Garfunkle

What great news - hope Garfunkle goes from strength to strength and that you are also managing to get the research together that you wanted Hideyo. Hope you got my mails ok. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

Annie

So sorry to hear of Annie passing Tad. The group has had so many losses recently. I know it is never easy and always heartwrentching when your babies pass but I'm pleased it was quick and that she was with you when it happened. She will now be meeting all our angels at the bridge. Michelle, Bud

Dr Dianne Addie

Hideyo I forgot to say that if you do contact Dianne Addie then state your history and involvement in feline rescue as I am sure you would anyway. But as a rule Glasgow University are not at liberty to provide information to anyone other that vets. When I contacted her I said I was involved in

FIP

Hi if you need info on Corona not causing FIP in most cases then I suggest you contact Dianne Addie at Glasgow University in UK. She has a website on FIP and corona viruses as she has been researching it for many years and is teh leading expert here in UK. http://www.dr-addie.com Michelle, Mi

Cricket

So sorry to hear of Cricket's passing after his and your brave fight. I am however [leased that he woke you up and that you got to be with him at that crucial time. He trusted you enough and wanted to be with you when he knew he had to go - that is so special.   Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & An

Cricket's feeding Tube

Fingers crossed for Cricket - I hope this works out Will be waiting with anticipation to hear how he goes on Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

Euthasol in vein

I'm glad you mentioned that Jenn - I wasn't sure how much info to leave or not but it is an important one. When I had to have Tidge put to sleep the sedatiev worked quickly but her veins collapsed as teh sedative causes a drop in blood pressure so the vet had to go through her stomache. I can't

Cricket

So sorry to hear Cricket is crossing to the bridge. I had both Tidge and Bramble PTS with a sedative first. I have had good and bad experiences with sedatives before the pts injection but even so I would never pts without giving a sedative first. What I've found is that even if they have a react

Max

I too feel anger at owner who owned Bramble and Tidge before I had them for a short time - both FIV+. However the fact that they trusted me and loved me for that short time as Max did with you is an honour and they let us know we at least made them happy and gave them a sense of safety. I think

Prayers for Hideyo

Prayers coming your way for you and your babies Hideyo - hope all works out well. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

Animal communication

Wendy Our animals certainly know when we are unhappy and worried which we generally are when they are sick. I think the most important thing is that you are just honest with them and relaxed - tell cricket how you are feeling and that you may cry because you care etc... I'm sure one day you wil

Animal communication

Wendy   I don't know if you were a member when I had Bramble so apologies if you heard this already and to those who have already heard this story as many of you have.   I had never really attempted animal communication before either but decided to try following advice from people here when I

Iodiene

Iodiene just helps to stop the fungal spores from spreading. It doesn't have any therapeutic effect but I think just the fact it is cold from the fridge that gives a little soothing effect for them. It is also good for preventing secondary bacterial infection (like bacterial folliculitis) sett

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