Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
If you keep these (probably positive)kittens it just means other kittens will die in their places. I would abort as soon as possible. tonya Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Laura B wrote: From: Laura B Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:13 PM Hi Jennifer, Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible pregnancy I would suggest a spay-abort. The kitten season has been particulary bad this summer in Jersey (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep them they would have a VERY bleak future. I live in central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms River (don't know how far south you are) you can take her to a clinic there that does low cost S/N. We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they have no problem doing spay-aborts. You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth Control) which is a group based in Bayville (I believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number that will entitle you to a low cost S/N. If you would like I can get the information for you, my neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time of year. I help out financially when I can since I work during the day (she doesn't work, cept for sterilizing cat colonies for people). Laura --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer wrote: From: Jennifer Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
I volunteer with a Louisiana shelter (am a remote volunteer) and spend time there when I go down--It kills the staff to have to euthanize and they do anything they can to find situations for the tons of cats they get A shelter is a terrible environment for any cat--the noise, the confusion, the lack of space---and it kills me when people bring "Fluffy's" kittens in cause they just can't keep them... Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? It is so hard to deal with these things. Thank God they have people like you to care about them during their last while on earth. It is so much better to die in loving hands than in a cold cage. I don't know if they still use gas to kill in "shelters" or not but that was gruesome. Even the injections in the hands of the uncaring or unskilled are awful. Again, bless you for being there. On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Laurieskatz wrote: > Alice, we did euthanize. It was excruciating because they had > survived a > year ~ though small they were healthy. They went downhill quickly as > cats > often do, esp FeLV+ cats. By the slowly die off, I meant first one > died and > then another and then the mama. Last night we had to make a decision > to have > a kitten euthanized shortly after she was rescued from the flood area > because she was so sick, so small and had injuries that would have > meant > drilling into her bones and several surgeries to repair. We got > opinions > from 3 vets and they all made the same recommendation. > :L > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice hanson > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:57 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the > kittens > be FeLV+?? > > Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end > their pain > sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got > to a > point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow > bridge, > no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them > suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: >> Tue, > 12 Aug 2008 20:54:55 -0500> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl > kitty is > pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??> > We rescued one mom with 4 > kittens. > All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking> watching them slowly die off. > The mom > and 2 kittens died early on but two> kittens lived to age 1 and then > died > excruciating deaths. It was costly and> we couldn't find homes. Hard > enough > to find homes for healthy ones. My> decision would be to spay/abort. > I put > the mommy's first since they already> have life. > L> > -----Original > Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B> > Sent: > Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: > Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens> > be > FeLV+??> > Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as > to what > to do, but> I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and > not > make a decsion> based on how it makes me feel. But again, it's your > decsion > and we can only> give advice.> > Please tell me that you have > separated Ash > and Isobel? On the chance that> she isn't pregnant you really need to > separate them until one of them is> fixed. > > Also, if you do > plan on > letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I> would start > saving some > money now, because you will need to get her kittens> S/N before > putting them > out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult> delivery and needs > emergency care. The rescue that I work with (I foster> kittens when > we come > across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact> kittens. Which > unfortunatly > is the only way to ensure that a cat will be> S/N' d these days.> > > We're > going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there > is> still > that chance.> > Laura> > --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > From: Jennifer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
It is so hard to deal with these things. Thank God they have people like you to care about them during their last while on earth. It is so much better to die in loving hands than in a cold cage. I don't know if they still use gas to kill in "shelters" or not but that was gruesome. Even the injections in the hands of the uncaring or unskilled are awful. Again, bless you for being there. On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Laurieskatz wrote: > Alice, we did euthanize. It was excruciating because they had > survived a > year ~ though small they were healthy. They went downhill quickly as > cats > often do, esp FeLV+ cats. By the slowly die off, I meant first one > died and > then another and then the mama. Last night we had to make a decision > to have > a kitten euthanized shortly after she was rescued from the flood area > because she was so sick, so small and had injuries that would have > meant > drilling into her bones and several surgeries to repair. We got > opinions > from 3 vets and they all made the same recommendation. > :L > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice hanson > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:57 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the > kittens > be FeLV+?? > > Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end > their pain > sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got > to a > point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow > bridge, > no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them > suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: >> Tue, > 12 Aug 2008 20:54:55 -0500> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl > kitty is > pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??> > We rescued one mom with 4 > kittens. > All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking> watching them slowly die off. > The mom > and 2 kittens died early on but two> kittens lived to age 1 and then > died > excruciating deaths. It was costly and> we couldn't find homes. Hard > enough > to find homes for healthy ones. My> decision would be to spay/abort. > I put > the mommy's first since they already> have life. > L> > -----Original > Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B> > Sent: > Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: > Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens> > be > FeLV+??> > Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as > to what > to do, but> I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and > not > make a decsion> based on how it makes me feel. But again, it's your > decsion > and we can only> give advice.> > Please tell me that you have > separated Ash > and Isobel? On the chance that> she isn't pregnant you really need to > separate them until one of them is> fixed. > > Also, if you do > plan on > letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I> would start > saving some > money now, because you will need to get her kittens> S/N before > putting them > out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult> delivery and needs > emergency care. The rescue that I work with (I foster> kittens when > we come > across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact> kittens. Which > unfortunatly > is the only way to ensure that a cat will be> S/N' d these days.> > > We're > going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there > is> still > that chance.> > Laura> > --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > From: Jennifer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl > kitty > is pregnant...will the kittens> be FeLV+??> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM> > I know it makes sense to > spay > abort, but I don't really know. I don't> believe in abortion...and > it would > be a really tough thing for me to do. I> really want to try and > find them > homes. I just can't imagine killing> life...I know it sounds horrible > especially with the overpopulation.> > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN > & LOCAL > SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~> > Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)> Isobel ak
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
The one thing worse to me is being born only to die in a shelter, having that life then taken away from you. If you are going to keep them, that's another story. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't > believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I > really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing > life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. > > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~ > Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) > Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) > Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) > > > > --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Laura B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Laura B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the > kittens be FeLV+?? > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:13 PM > > Hi Jennifer, > > Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible pregnancy I would suggest a > spay-abort. The kitten season has been particulary bad this summer in > Jersey > (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep them they would have a VERY > bleak future. I live in central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms > River (don't know how far south you are) you can take her to a clinic there > that does low cost S/N. We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they > have > no problem doing spay-aborts. > > You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth Control) which is a group > based in Bayville (I believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number > that > will entitle you to a low cost S/N. If you would like I can get the > information for you, my neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time > of > year. I help out financially when I can since I work during the day (she > doesn't work, cept for sterilizing cat colonies for people). > > Laura > > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be > FeLV+?? > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM > > and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing > signs > of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's > going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests > negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will > the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is > pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be > too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money > is > tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is > pregnant, > I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is > allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I > understand. > If > I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to > sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New > Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the > vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. > > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~ > Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) > Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) > Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
Alice, we did euthanize. It was excruciating because they had survived a year ~ though small they were healthy. They went downhill quickly as cats often do, esp FeLV+ cats. By the slowly die off, I meant first one died and then another and then the mama. Last night we had to make a decision to have a kitten euthanized shortly after she was rescued from the flood area because she was so sick, so small and had injuries that would have meant drilling into her bones and several surgeries to repair. We got opinions from 3 vets and they all made the same recommendation. :L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice hanson Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end their pain sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got to a point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow bridge, no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:54:55 -0500> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??> > We rescued one mom with 4 kittens. All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking> watching them slowly die off. The mom and 2 kittens died early on but two> kittens lived to age 1 and then died excruciating deaths. It was costly and> we couldn't find homes. Hard enough to find homes for healthy ones. My> decision would be to spay/abort. I put the mommy's first since they already> have life. > L> > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens> be FeLV+??> > Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as to what to do, but> I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and not make a decsion> based on how it makes me feel. But again, it's your decsion and we can only> give advice.> > Please tell me that you have separated Ash and Isobel? On the chance that> she isn't pregnant you really need to separate them until one of them is> fixed. > > Also, if you do plan on letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I> would start saving some money now, because you will need to get her kittens> S/N before putting them out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult> delivery and needs emergency care. The rescue that I work with (I foster> kittens when we come across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact> kittens. Which unfortunatly is the only way to ensure that a cat will be> S/N' d these days.> > We're going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there is> still that chance.> > Laura> > --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens> be FeLV+??> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM> > I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't> believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I> really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing> life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation.> > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~> Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)> Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)> Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)> > > > > > > > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end their pain sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got to a point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow bridge, no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 12 Aug > 2008 20:54:55 -0500> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is > pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??> > We rescued one mom with 4 kittens. > All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking> watching them slowly die off. The mom > and 2 kittens died early on but two> kittens lived to age 1 and then died > excruciating deaths. It was costly and> we couldn't find homes. Hard enough > to find homes for healthy ones. My> decision would be to spay/abort. I put > the mommy's first since they already> have life. > L> > -Original > Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Laura B> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM> To: > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is > pregnant...will the kittens> be FeLV+??> > Since you are her guardian, > obviously it's your choice as to what to do, but> I know for me, I try to do > what is best for the cat, and not make a decsion> based on how it makes me > feel. But again, it's your decsion and we can only> give advice.> > Please > tell me that you have separated Ash and Isobel? On the chance that> she > isn't pregnant you really need to separate them until one of them is> fixed. > > > Also, if you do plan on letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, > I> would start saving some money now, because you will need to get her > kittens> S/N before putting them out for adoption, also incase she has a > difficult> delivery and needs emergency care. The rescue that I work with (I > foster> kittens when we come across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact> > kittens. Which unfortunatly is the only way to ensure that a cat will be> > S/N' d these days.> > We're going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is > not pregnant, there is> still that chance.> > Laura> > --- On Tue, 8/12/08, > Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens> > be FeLV+??> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, > 7:34 PM> > I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I > don't> believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to > do. I> really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine > killing> life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the > overpopulation.> > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be > their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~> Morrison (born Oct. 10, > 2000)> Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)> Ash (born > July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)> > > > > > > > > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > > > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
We rescued one mom with 4 kittens. All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking watching them slowly die off. The mom and 2 kittens died early on but two kittens lived to age 1 and then died excruciating deaths. It was costly and we couldn't find homes. Hard enough to find homes for healthy ones. My decision would be to spay/abort. I put the mommy's first since they already have life. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as to what to do, but I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and not make a decsion based on how it makes me feel. But again, it's your decsion and we can only give advice. Please tell me that you have separated Ash and Isobel? On the chance that she isn't pregnant you really need to separate them until one of them is fixed. Also, if you do plan on letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I would start saving some money now, because you will need to get her kittens S/N before putting them out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult delivery and needs emergency care. The rescue that I work with (I foster kittens when we come across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact kittens. Which unfortunatly is the only way to ensure that a cat will be S/N' d these days. We're going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there is still that chance. Laura --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
If you are going to spay/abort, the sooner the betterless risky for Isobel. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? I was planning on spaying her after Ash gets neutered. I am still going to spay her at the local SPCA since they do it cheaper than my vet would. I am still considered doing a spay-abortion. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Wed, 8/13/08, janine paton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: janine paton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:32 AM Hi, I am not so active on this list because I am primarily doing rescue with only occassional positives. But, I have to say I would spay this cat so fast, pregnant or not. There are way too many kittens being born outside this year - back to back pregnancies it seems. And you don't need your girl to have problems giving birth either. Janine, from CT, overwhelmed with kittens! --- Laura B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > > Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible > pregnancy I would suggest a spay-abort. The kitten > season has been particulary bad this summer in > Jersey (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep > them they would have a VERY bleak future. I live in > central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms > River (don't know how far south you are) you can > take her to a clinic there that does low cost S/N. > We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they > have no problem doing spay-aborts. > > You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth > Control) which is a group based in Bayville (I > believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number > that will entitle you to a low cost S/N. If you > would like I can get the information for you, my > neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time > of year. I help out financially when I can since I > work during the day (she doesn't work, cept for > sterilizing cat colonies for people). > > Laura > > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is > pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM > > and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, > Ash. Isobel is showing signs > of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as > pointy nipples). She's > going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My > question is, if she tests > negative (which my guess is she won't being that her > and Ash mated), will > the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? > Also, if Isobel is > pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically > mean the kittens will be > too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed > sooner, but my money is > tight and I have to save up just to take them to the > vet. If she is pregnant, > I can't keep the kittens as we already have three > and my boyfriend is > allergic and says no way to any more cats in the > house, which I understand. If > I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't > they put them to > sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I > live in Southern New > Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her > to the > vet this week, I'll have them confirm her > pregnancy. > > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA > VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~ > Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) > Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) > Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ > July 28, 2008) > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleuk
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
I wonder if you could spay her before you neuter him. The earlier the better for her sake. Putting him off, since she is already pregnant, shouldn't be an issue. On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Jennifer wrote: > I was planning on spaying her after Ash gets neutered. I am still > going to spay her at the local SPCA since they do it cheaper than my > vet would. I am still considered doing a spay-abortion. > > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~ > Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) > Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) > Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) > > > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, janine paton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: janine paton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the > kittens be FeLV+?? > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:32 AM > > Hi, I am not so active on this list because I am > primarily doing rescue with only occassional > positives. But, I have to say I would spay this cat > so fast, pregnant or not. There are way too many > kittens being born outside this year - back to back > pregnancies it seems. And you don't need your girl to > have problems giving birth either. > > Janine, from CT, overwhelmed with kittens! > > > --- Laura B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Jennifer, >> >> Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible >> pregnancy I would suggest a spay-abort. The kitten >> season has been particulary bad this summer in >> Jersey (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep >> them they would have a VERY bleak future. I live in >> central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms >> River (don't know how far south you are) you can >> take her to a clinic there that does low cost S/N. >> We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they >> have no problem doing spay-aborts. >> >> You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth >> Control) which is a group based in Bayville (I >> believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number >> that will entitle you to a low cost S/N. If you >> would like I can get the information for you, my >> neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time >> of year. I help out financially when I can since I >> work during the day (she doesn't work, cept for >> sterilizing cat colonies for people). >> >> Laura >> >> --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is >> pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? >> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >> >> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM >> >> and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, >> Ash. Isobel is showing signs >> of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as >> pointy nipples). She's >> going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My >> question is, if she tests >> negative (which my guess is she won't being that her >> and Ash mated), will >> the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? >> Also, if Isobel is >> pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically >> mean the kittens will be >> too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed >> sooner, but my money is >> tight and I have to save up just to take them to the >> vet. If she is pregnant, >> I can't keep the kittens as we already have three >> and my boyfriend is >> allergic and says no way to any more cats in the >> house, which I understand. If >> I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't >> they put them to >> sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I >> live in Southern New >> Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her >> to the >> vet this week, I'll have them confirm her >> pregnancy. >> >> Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA >> VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. >> ~ loving mama to ~ >> Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) >> Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) >> Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ >> July 28, 2008) >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >&
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as to what to do, but I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and not make a decsion based on how it makes me feel. But again, it's your decsion and we can only give advice. Please tell me that you have separated Ash and Isobel? On the chance that she isn't pregnant you really need to separate them until one of them is fixed. Also, if you do plan on letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I would start saving some money now, because you will need to get her kittens S/N before putting them out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult delivery and needs emergency care. The rescue that I work with (I foster kittens when we come across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact kittens. Which unfortunatly is the only way to ensure that a cat will be S/N' d these days. We're going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there is still that chance. Laura --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
I was planning on spaying her after Ash gets neutered. I am still going to spay her at the local SPCA since they do it cheaper than my vet would. I am still considered doing a spay-abortion. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Wed, 8/13/08, janine paton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: janine paton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:32 AM Hi, I am not so active on this list because I am primarily doing rescue with only occassional positives. But, I have to say I would spay this cat so fast, pregnant or not. There are way too many kittens being born outside this year - back to back pregnancies it seems. And you don't need your girl to have problems giving birth either. Janine, from CT, overwhelmed with kittens! --- Laura B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > > Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible > pregnancy I would suggest a spay-abort. The kitten > season has been particulary bad this summer in > Jersey (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep > them they would have a VERY bleak future. I live in > central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms > River (don't know how far south you are) you can > take her to a clinic there that does low cost S/N. > We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they > have no problem doing spay-aborts. > > You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth > Control) which is a group based in Bayville (I > believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number > that will entitle you to a low cost S/N. If you > would like I can get the information for you, my > neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time > of year. I help out financially when I can since I > work during the day (she doesn't work, cept for > sterilizing cat colonies for people). > > Laura > > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is > pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM > > and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, > Ash. Isobel is showing signs > of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as > pointy nipples). She's > going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My > question is, if she tests > negative (which my guess is she won't being that her > and Ash mated), will > the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? > Also, if Isobel is > pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically > mean the kittens will be > too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed > sooner, but my money is > tight and I have to save up just to take them to the > vet. If she is pregnant, > I can't keep the kittens as we already have three > and my boyfriend is > allergic and says no way to any more cats in the > house, which I understand. If > I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't > they put them to > sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I > live in Southern New > Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her > to the > vet this week, I'll have them confirm her > pregnancy. > > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA > VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~ > Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) > Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) > Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ > July 28, 2008) > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
I realize its a very personal decision and a very hard one to make. But I volunteer with a couple of shelters and I post pictures of the kittens they get and its just as hard to have to take them off the picture site because they didn't make it! You can't just "try" to find them homes--you have to be willing to keep them if you can't. And if they are born FELV+, you will likely not be able to place any of them. And you will need to be prepared to meet all their vet and feeding and supplement needs. The other consideration is the mom--FELV, maybe not too old--you're talking a very high risk pregnancy here. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Laura B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Laura B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:13 PM Hi Jennifer, Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible pregnancy I would suggest a spay-abort. The kitten season has been particulary bad this summer in Jersey (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep them they would have a VERY bleak future. I live in central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms River (don't know how far south you are) you can take her to a clinic there that does low cost S/N. We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they have no problem doing spay-aborts. You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth Control) which is a group based in Bayville (I believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number that will entitle you to a low cost S/N. If you would like I can get the information for you, my neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time of year. I help out financially when I can since I work during the day (she doesn't work, cept for sterilizing cat colonies for people). Laura --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
Hi, I am not so active on this list because I am primarily doing rescue with only occassional positives. But, I have to say I would spay this cat so fast, pregnant or not. There are way too many kittens being born outside this year - back to back pregnancies it seems. And you don't need your girl to have problems giving birth either. Janine, from CT, overwhelmed with kittens! --- Laura B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > > Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible > pregnancy I would suggest a spay-abort. The kitten > season has been particulary bad this summer in > Jersey (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep > them they would have a VERY bleak future. I live in > central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms > River (don't know how far south you are) you can > take her to a clinic there that does low cost S/N. > We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they > have no problem doing spay-aborts. > > You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth > Control) which is a group based in Bayville (I > believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number > that will entitle you to a low cost S/N. If you > would like I can get the information for you, my > neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time > of year. I help out financially when I can since I > work during the day (she doesn't work, cept for > sterilizing cat colonies for people). > > Laura > > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is > pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM > > and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, > Ash. Isobel is showing signs > of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as > pointy nipples). She's > going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My > question is, if she tests > negative (which my guess is she won't being that her > and Ash mated), will > the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? > Also, if Isobel is > pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically > mean the kittens will be > too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed > sooner, but my money is > tight and I have to save up just to take them to the > vet. If she is pregnant, > I can't keep the kittens as we already have three > and my boyfriend is > allergic and says no way to any more cats in the > house, which I understand. If > I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't > they put them to > sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I > live in Southern New > Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her > to the > vet this week, I'll have them confirm her > pregnancy. > > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA > VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~ > Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) > Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) > Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ > July 28, 2008) > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
Ash is getting fixed on the 28th and Isobel is getting fixed after that. I've had to save up the money for both surgeries, that's why they weren't fixed sooner. Honestly, with Ash's physical problems (not being able to stand and walk properly), I didn't think he'd be able to mount her and successfully impregnate her. He can't even jump on the couch or bed because of his balance. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 3:24 AM This is heartbreaking. I am sorry for poor Isobel. If you can't afford to spay, I cannot understand why you wouldn't get Ash neutered or separate unaltered males and females. When I have rescued litters I separate the males and females to avoid unwanted pregnancies. Isobel and her kittens, if pregnant, have been so unnecessarily exposed and she, so unnecessarily pregnant. I would see if the vet will abort her pregnancy. This will likely cause greater risk to her if she is now also positive but, imho, better that than have the kittens born to an unknown future since you won't be keeping them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Laura B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Laura B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:13 PM Hi Jennifer, Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible pregnancy I would suggest a spay-abort. The kitten season has been particulary bad this summer in Jersey (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep them they would have a VERY bleak future. I live in central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms River (don't know how far south you are) you can take her to a clinic there that does low cost S/N. We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they have no problem doing spay-aborts. You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth Control) which is a group based in Bayville (I believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number that will entitle you to a low cost S/N. If you would like I can get the information for you, my neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time of year. I help out financially when I can since I work during the day (she doesn't work, cept for sterilizing cat colonies for people). Laura --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
Hi Jennifer, Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible pregnancy I would suggest a spay-abort. The kitten season has been particulary bad this summer in Jersey (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep them they would have a VERY bleak future. I live in central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms River (don't know how far south you are) you can take her to a clinic there that does low cost S/N. We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they have no problem doing spay-aborts. You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth Control) which is a group based in Bayville (I believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number that will entitle you to a low cost S/N. If you would like I can get the information for you, my neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time of year. I help out financially when I can since I work during the day (she doesn't work, cept for sterilizing cat colonies for people). Laura --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
Can you have them spay her even though she is pregnant? Anyway you look at it, the kittens have no future. Some people can do this and others just can't. Neither group is right or wrong. I guess the question is whether it is better to lose your life kindly and gently or, after you are several weeks or months old, to a shelter or a car or a vicious dog or.. This is something you have to settle in your heart. No one can tell you what is right or wrong. I know for myself and many on this list have made their decisions. Blessings to you for loving and caring. On Aug 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Jennifer wrote: > and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is > showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as > pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. > My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't > being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because > their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV > +, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so > horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight > and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is > pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my > boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, > which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're > positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want > that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more > kittens?? When I take her to the > vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. > > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~ > Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) > Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) > Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
This is heartbreaking. I am sorry for poor Isobel. If you can't afford to spay, I cannot understand why you wouldn't get Ash neutered or separate unaltered males and females. When I have rescued litters I separate the males and females to avoid unwanted pregnancies. Isobel and her kittens, if pregnant, have been so unnecessarily exposed and she, so unnecessarily pregnant. I would see if the vet will abort her pregnancy. This will likely cause greater risk to her if she is now also positive but, imho, better that than have the kittens born to an unknown future since you won't be keeping them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
