Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

2012-10-13 Thread dlgegg
RE:  carpets  I was thinking of people who have only one or two cats in their 
house and are stupid enough to have carpeting.


 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> Carpets?  With 30 cats in the house?  No Way!  I was actually thinking about 
> planting grass on my floor but I cleaned it instead.


 
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 From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter:  The Return of the Clump
 
LIKE I SAID WE MUST LOVE THEM TO GO THRU ALL THAT.  i HAVE FOUND wORLD'S 
gREATEST  and we all love it.  I especially love the fact that it is much 
lighter than clay and is biodegradeable.  I have a lite box compost pit to the 
east of the house and no smell from it all.  It is a bit dusty but so is every 
other litter I jsut keep the vaccumn out and after cleaning the boxes, suck the 
escaped bits here and there and pitch them in the trash.  Cost is a bit pricey, 
but it last longer and does not hurt your bare feet when you get up in the 
middle of the night.

ONE WORD OF CAUTION.  Blue buffalo has a litter made from walnut hulls/shells.  
It clumps and is relatively dust free, but is heavy and if you have light 
colored carpets you might have a problem.  I use walnut hulls as a very good 
dark brown dye.  AllI do is soak them in water and they dye everything they 
come in contact with.  I have quarry tile floors so not too much of a problem, 
but even quarry tile will take the dye.


 Lorrie  wrote: 
> Lee, I almost pissed myself laughing.. Been there with the solid
> block of concrete stuck to the bottom of the litter boxes! 
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote:
> >    This is a horror story.  It's true.  My cats will tell you it is.  One
> >    day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter.  In
> >    those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB
> >    supermarket.  Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that
> >    time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable.  It wasn't very
> >    expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home.  Now, the horror part
> >    comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except
> >    that it clumps when hit with something liquid.  So I poured the same
> >    amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary
> >    stuff.  Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions.  The litter
> >    clumped to the bottom of the box.  Solid.  Cement.  Mixed with cat
> >    piss.  I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw
> >    to get the litter out.  Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the
> >    boxes back to usable state.  Five hours wasted.  Cats giggling inside,
> >    waiting to see what I would do next.  I read the directions.  Needed
> >    was at least three inches of litter per box.  Ten boxes.  Five bags of
> >    cheap clumping clay.  Ah.  It clumped.  Did not stick to the bottom of
> >    the box.  Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds.
> >    Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds.  I
> >    filled up about 10 boxes.  Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few
> >    grains of sand.  Half a bag to a box.  That would be about 10 pounds of
> >    clay per box.  After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth
> >    of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of
> >    silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance.
> >    Used up an entire roll of garbage bags.  Sanitation department workers
> >    had to be hospitalized for hernias.  It was around that time that I
> >    discovered Feline Pine.  The cats were a little startled at having to
> >    do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around
> >    like marbles but they got the hang of it finally.  Some like to bat the
> >    pine pellets all over the floor.  They especially like to bat them over
> >    to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and
> >    go skidding into a wall.  Need a book on cat behavior modification.
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

2012-10-13 Thread Lee Evans
Carpets?  With 30 cats in the house?  No Way!  I was actually thinking about 
planting grass on my floor but I cleaned it instead.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter:  The Return of the Clump
 
LIKE I SAID WE MUST LOVE THEM TO GO THRU ALL THAT.  i HAVE FOUND wORLD'S 
gREATEST  and we all love it.  I especially love the fact that it is much 
lighter than clay and is biodegradeable.  I have a lite box compost pit to the 
east of the house and no smell from it all.  It is a bit dusty but so is every 
other litter I jsut keep the vaccumn out and after cleaning the boxes, suck the 
escaped bits here and there and pitch them in the trash.  Cost is a bit pricey, 
but it last longer and does not hurt your bare feet when you get up in the 
middle of the night.

ONE WORD OF CAUTION.  Blue buffalo has a litter made from walnut hulls/shells.  
It clumps and is relatively dust free, but is heavy and if you have light 
colored carpets you might have a problem.  I use walnut hulls as a very good 
dark brown dye.  AllI do is soak them in water and they dye everything they 
come in contact with.  I have quarry tile floors so not too much of a problem, 
but even quarry tile will take the dye.


 Lorrie  wrote: 
> Lee, I almost pissed myself laughing.. Been there with the solid
> block of concrete stuck to the bottom of the litter boxes! 
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote:
> >    This is a horror story.  It's true.  My cats will tell you it is.  One
> >    day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter.  In
> >    those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB
> >    supermarket.  Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that
> >    time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable.  It wasn't very
> >    expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home.  Now, the horror part
> >    comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except
> >    that it clumps when hit with something liquid.  So I poured the same
> >    amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary
> >    stuff.  Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions.  The litter
> >    clumped to the bottom of the box.  Solid.  Cement.  Mixed with cat
> >    piss.  I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw
> >    to get the litter out.  Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the
> >    boxes back to usable state.  Five hours wasted.  Cats giggling inside,
> >    waiting to see what I would do next.  I read the directions.  Needed
> >    was at least three inches of litter per box.  Ten boxes.  Five bags of
> >    cheap clumping clay.  Ah.  It clumped.  Did not stick to the bottom of
> >    the box.  Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds.
> >    Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds.  I
> >    filled up about 10 boxes.  Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few
> >    grains of sand.  Half a bag to a box.  That would be about 10 pounds of
> >    clay per box.  After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth
> >    of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of
> >    silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance.
> >    Used up an entire roll of garbage bags.  Sanitation department workers
> >    had to be hospitalized for hernias.  It was around that time that I
> >    discovered Feline Pine.  The cats were a little startled at having to
> >    do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around
> >    like marbles but they got the hang of it finally.  Some like to bat the
> >    pine pellets all over the floor.  They especially like to bat them over
> >    to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and
> >    go skidding into a wall.  Need a book on cat behavior modification.
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

2012-10-12 Thread dlgegg
LIKE I SAID WE MUST LOVE THEM TO GO THRU ALL THAT.  i HAVE FOUND wORLD'S 
gREATEST  and we all love it.  I especially love the fact that it is much 
lighter than clay and is biodegradeable.  I have a lite box compost pit to the 
east of the house and no smell from it all.  It is a bit dusty but so is every 
other litter I jsut keep the vaccumn out and after cleaning the boxes, suck the 
escaped bits here and there and pitch them in the trash.  Cost is a bit pricey, 
but it last longer and does not hurt your bare feet when you get up in the 
middle of the night.

ONE WORD OF CAUTION.  Blue buffalo has a litter made from walnut hulls/shells.  
It clumps and is relatively dust free, but is heavy and if you have light 
colored carpets you might have a problem.  I use walnut hulls as a very good 
dark brown dye.  AllI do is soak them in water and they dye everything they 
come in contact with.  I have quarry tile floors so not too much of a problem, 
but even quarry tile will take the dye.


 Lorrie  wrote: 
> Lee, I almost pissed myself laughing.. Been there with the solid
> block of concrete stuck to the bottom of the litter boxes! 
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote:
> >This is a horror story.  It's true.  My cats will tell you it is.  One
> >day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter.  In
> >those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB
> >supermarket.  Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that
> >time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable.  It wasn't very
> >expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home.  Now, the horror part
> >comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except
> >that it clumps when hit with something liquid.  So I poured the same
> >amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary
> >stuff.  Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions.  The litter
> >clumped to the bottom of the box.  Solid.  Cement.  Mixed with cat
> >piss.  I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw
> >to get the litter out.  Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the
> >boxes back to usable state.  Five hours wasted.  Cats giggling inside,
> >waiting to see what I would do next.  I read the directions.  Needed
> >was at least three inches of litter per box.  Ten boxes.  Five bags of
> >cheap clumping clay.  Ah.  It clumped.  Did not stick to the bottom of
> >the box.  Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds.
> >Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds.  I
> >filled up about 10 boxes.  Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few
> >grains of sand.  Half a bag to a box.  That would be about 10 pounds of
> >clay per box.  After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth
> >of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of
> >silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance.
> >Used up an entire roll of garbage bags.  Sanitation department workers
> >had to be hospitalized for hernias.  It was around that time that I
> >discovered Feline Pine.  The cats were a little startled at having to
> >do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around
> >like marbles but they got the hang of it finally.  Some like to bat the
> >pine pellets all over the floor.  They especially like to bat them over
> >to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and
> >go skidding into a wall.  Need a book on cat behavior modification.
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

2012-10-12 Thread dlgegg
I tried that once and then pitched the bag in the trash.  Hated it and my cats 
would not use their boxes.  They knew something I didn't.

 Natalie  wrote: 
> Just imagine what it does to cats and kittens inside their bodies! Natalie
> 
>  
> 
> My new email address is:atia@gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Beth
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
> 
>  
> 
> I had this same thing happen when I tried SweatScoop. It turned to cement at
> the bottom of the litter pan. I had to get a hammer to get it out.
> 
>  
> 
> Beth
> 
>  
> 
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> <http://www.furkids.org/> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Lee Evans 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
> 
>  
> 
> This is a horror story.  It's true.  My cats will tell you it is.  One day,
> several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter.  In those days I
> was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket.  Traditional is a
> white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw
> HEB Scoopable.  It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home.
> Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about
> clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid.  So I
> poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the
> ordinary stuff.  Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions.  The litter
> clumped to the bottom of the box.  Solid.  Cement.  Mixed with cat piss.  I
> had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the
> litter out.  Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to
> usable state.  Five hours wasted.  Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what
> I would do next.  I read the directions.  Needed was at least three inches
> of litter per box.  Ten boxes.  Five bags of cheap clumping clay.  Ah.  It
> clumped.  Did not stick to the bottom of the box.  Each perfectly formed
> clump weighed about three pounds.  Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of
> litter, each weighing 20 pounds.  I filled up about 10 boxes.  Used about 5
> of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand.  Half a bag to a box.  That
> would be about 10 pounds of clay per box.  After all was said and done, I
> got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would
> make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid
> substance.  Used up an entire roll of garbage bags.  Sanitation department
> workers had to be hospitalized for hernias.  It was around that time that I
> discovered Feline Pine.  The cats were a little startled at having to do
> their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like
> marbles but they got the hang of it finally.  Some like to bat the pine
> pellets all over the floor.  They especially like to bat them over to the
> door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding
> into a wall.  Need a book on cat behavior modification.
> 
>  
> 
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

2012-10-12 Thread dlgegg
Sounds like you have my bunch.  For the chewing, I keep lemon grass growing in 
a pot during the winter months.  they love the tste and munch on it all the 
time.  Yes, they do throw up after eating it.  Seems to clear out their system 
and they are back to normal.  Cat houses are not normal houses.  We have 
shelves on the walls for them to sit on and they sit on the furniture so we 
have sheets on everything.  Hard to work on the computer, do crafts, especially 
beads, little seed beads, play a game of solitare (you should be palying with 
me so I will bat the cards, roll over on top of them).  Must be we really love 
them to deal with all this.


 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> The standard is NOT to use clumping litter with kittens under 8 months old.  
> Kittens, like human children go through their new world tasting everything, 
> whether it's food or not.  Never leave string, thread, paper clips, thumb 
> tacks, nails, even hairbrushes around where a kitten can get his/her mouth 
> around it.  Yeah, hair brushes.  They love our hair and try to lick it like 
> it's fur and get it stuck in their mouths.  They also like to teethe on 
> bristles, which if it's an old hair brush might break off.  One of my really 
> dim bulb grown cats likes to chew on the broom straws.  Then he throws up. On 
> the nicely swept floor.  And never leave bottles of anything around, even 
> things like ketchup.  Caps can get loose, glass can break.  In other words, 
> try not to live in  your house.  Live in your closets and remember to close 
> the doors.  So clumping litter is deadly for kittens.  It's also dangerous 
> for newly spayed and neutered cats.  You don't
>  want litter getting into unhealed incisions or open wounds like are on a 
> neutered male cat.   Anything that is moist that can cause the litter to 
> clump is bad news.


 
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 From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter:  The Return of the Clump
 

Just imagine what it does to cats and kittens inside their bodies! Natalie
 
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From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:44 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
 
I had this same thing happen when I tried SweatScoop. It turned to cement at 
the bottom of the litter pan. I had to get a hammer to get it out.
 
Beth
 
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From:Lee Evans 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
 
This is a horror story.  It's true.  My cats will tell you it is.  One day, 
several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter.  In those days I was 
using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket.  Traditional is a white 
litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB 
Scoopable.  It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home.  Now, 
the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping 
litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid.  So I poured the 
same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary 
stuff.  Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions.  The litter clumped to 
the bottom of the box.  Solid.  Cement.  Mixed with cat piss.  I had to take 
all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out.  
Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state.  
Five hours wasted.  Cats giggling
>  inside, waiting to see what I would do next.  I read the directions.  Needed 
> was at least three inches of litter per box.  Ten boxes.  Five bags of cheap 
> clumping clay.  Ah.  It clumped.  Did not stick to the bottom of the box.  
> Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds.  Hernia time. I 
> purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds.  I filled up about 10 
> boxes.  Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand.  Half a 
> bag to a box.  That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box.  After all was 
> said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish 
> someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit 
> with a liquid substance.  Used up an entire roll of garbage bags.  Sanitation 
> department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias.  It was around that 
> time that I discovered Feline Pine.  The cats were a little startled at 
> having to do their thing on something that
>  smelled l

Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

2012-10-12 Thread Lee Evans
The standard is NOT to use clumping litter with kittens under 8 months old.  Kittens, like human children go through their new world tasting everything, whether it's food or not.  Never leave string, thread, paper clips, thumb tacks, nails, even hairbrushes around where a kitten can get his/her mouth around it.  Yeah, hair brushes.  They love our hair and try to lick it like it's fur and get it stuck in their mouths.  They also like to teethe on bristles, which if it's an old hair brush might break off.  One of my really dim bulb grown cats likes to chew on the broom straws.  Then he throws up. On the nicely swept floor.  And never leave bottles of anything around, even things like ketchup.  Caps can get loose, glass can break.  In other words, try not to live in  your
 house.  Live in your closets and remember to close the doors.  So clumping litter is deadly for kittens.  It's also dangerous for newly spayed and neutered cats.  You don't want litter getting into unhealed incisions or open wounds like are on a neutered male cat.   Anything that is moist that can cause the litter to clump is bad news. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!From: Natalie  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter:  The Return of the Clump   Just imagine what it does to cats and kittens inside their bodies! Natalie  My new email address is:    atia@gmail.com  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of BethSent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:44 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump  I had this same thing happen when I tried SweatScoop. It turned to cement at the bottom of the litter pan. I had to get a hammer to get it out.  Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org 
  From: Lee Evans To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:49 PMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
  This is a horror story.  It's true.  My cats will tell you it is.  One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter.  In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket.  Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable.  It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home.  Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid.  So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff.  Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions.  The litter clumped to the bottom of the box.  Solid.  Cement.  Mixed with cat
 piss.  I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out.  Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state.  Five hours wasted.  Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next.  I read the directions.  Needed was at least three inches of litter per box.  Ten boxes.  Five bags of cheap clumping clay.  Ah.  It clumped.  Did not stick to the bottom of the box.  Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds.  Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds.  I filled up about 10 boxes.  Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand.  Half a bag to a box.  That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box.  After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple
 when hit with a liquid substance.  Used up an entire roll of garbage bags.  Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias.  It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine.  The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally.  Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor.  They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall.  Need a book on cat behavior modification. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

2012-10-12 Thread Natalie
Just imagine what it does to cats and kittens inside their bodies! Natalie

 

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Beth
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:44 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

 

I had this same thing happen when I tried SweatScoop. It turned to cement at
the bottom of the litter pan. I had to get a hammer to get it out.

 

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From: Lee Evans 
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

 

This is a horror story.  It's true.  My cats will tell you it is.  One day,
several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter.  In those days I
was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket.  Traditional is a
white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw
HEB Scoopable.  It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home.
Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about
clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid.  So I
poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the
ordinary stuff.  Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions.  The litter
clumped to the bottom of the box.  Solid.  Cement.  Mixed with cat piss.  I
had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the
litter out.  Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to
usable state.  Five hours wasted.  Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what
I would do next.  I read the directions.  Needed was at least three inches
of litter per box.  Ten boxes.  Five bags of cheap clumping clay.  Ah.  It
clumped.  Did not stick to the bottom of the box.  Each perfectly formed
clump weighed about three pounds.  Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of
litter, each weighing 20 pounds.  I filled up about 10 boxes.  Used about 5
of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand.  Half a bag to a box.  That
would be about 10 pounds of clay per box.  After all was said and done, I
got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would
make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid
substance.  Used up an entire roll of garbage bags.  Sanitation department
workers had to be hospitalized for hernias.  It was around that time that I
discovered Feline Pine.  The cats were a little startled at having to do
their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like
marbles but they got the hang of it finally.  Some like to bat the pine
pellets all over the floor.  They especially like to bat them over to the
door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding
into a wall.  Need a book on cat behavior modification.

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

2012-10-12 Thread Beth
I had this same thing happen when I tried SweatScoop. It turned to cement at 
the bottom of the litter pan. I had to get a hammer to get it out.

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 From: Lee Evans 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter:  The Return of the Clump
 

This is a horror story.  It's true.  My cats will tell you it is.  One day, 
several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter.  In those days I was 
using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket.  Traditional is a white 
litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB 
Scoopable.  It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home.  Now, 
the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping 
litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid.  So I poured the 
same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary 
stuff.  Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions.  The litter clumped to 
the bottom of the box.  Solid.  Cement.  Mixed with cat piss.  I had to take 
all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out.  
Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state.  
Five hours wasted.  Cats giggling
 inside, waiting to see what I would do next.  I read the directions.  Needed 
was at least three inches of litter per box.  Ten boxes.  Five bags of cheap 
clumping clay.  Ah.  It clumped.  Did not stick to the bottom of the box.  Each 
perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds.  Hernia time. I purchased 5 
bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds.  I filled up about 10 boxes.  Used 
about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand.  Half a bag to a box.  
That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box.  After all was said and done, I 
got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make 
litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid 
substance.  Used up an entire roll of garbage bags.  Sanitation department 
workers had to be hospitalized for hernias.  It was around that time that I 
discovered Feline Pine.  The cats were a little startled at having to do their 
thing on something that
 smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it 
finally.  Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor.  They 
especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I 
step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall.  Need a book on cat 
behavior modification.

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

2012-10-12 Thread Lorrie
Lee, I almost pissed myself laughing.. Been there with the solid
block of concrete stuck to the bottom of the litter boxes! 

Lorrie

On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote:
>This is a horror story.  It's true.  My cats will tell you it is.  One
>day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter.  In
>those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB
>supermarket.  Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that
>time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable.  It wasn't very
>expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home.  Now, the horror part
>comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except
>that it clumps when hit with something liquid.  So I poured the same
>amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary
>stuff.  Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions.  The litter
>clumped to the bottom of the box.  Solid.  Cement.  Mixed with cat
>piss.  I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw
>to get the litter out.  Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the
>boxes back to usable state.  Five hours wasted.  Cats giggling inside,
>waiting to see what I would do next.  I read the directions.  Needed
>was at least three inches of litter per box.  Ten boxes.  Five bags of
>cheap clumping clay.  Ah.  It clumped.  Did not stick to the bottom of
>the box.  Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds.
>Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds.  I
>filled up about 10 boxes.  Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few
>grains of sand.  Half a bag to a box.  That would be about 10 pounds of
>clay per box.  After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth
>of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of
>silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance.
>Used up an entire roll of garbage bags.  Sanitation department workers
>had to be hospitalized for hernias.  It was around that time that I
>discovered Feline Pine.  The cats were a little startled at having to
>do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around
>like marbles but they got the hang of it finally.  Some like to bat the
>pine pellets all over the floor.  They especially like to bat them over
>to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and
>go skidding into a wall.  Need a book on cat behavior modification.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump

2012-10-11 Thread Lee Evans
This is a horror story.  It's true.  My cats will tell you it is.  One day, 
several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter.  In those days I was 
using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket.  Traditional is a white 
litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB 
Scoopable.  It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home.  Now, 
the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping 
litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid.  So I poured the 
same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary 
stuff.  Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions.  The litter clumped to 
the bottom of the box.  Solid.  Cement.  Mixed with cat piss.  I had to take 
all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out.  
Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state.  
Five hours wasted.  Cats giggling
 inside, waiting to see what I would do next.  I read the directions.  Needed 
was at least three inches of litter per box.  Ten boxes.  Five bags of cheap 
clumping clay.  Ah.  It clumped.  Did not stick to the bottom of the box.  Each 
perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds.  Hernia time. I purchased 5 
bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds.  I filled up about 10 boxes.  Used 
about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand.  Half a bag to a box.  
That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box.  After all was said and done, I 
got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make 
litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid 
substance.  Used up an entire roll of garbage bags.  Sanitation department 
workers had to be hospitalized for hernias.  It was around that time that I 
discovered Feline Pine.  The cats were a little startled at having to do their 
thing on something that
 smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it 
finally.  Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor.  They 
especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I 
step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall.  Need a book on cat 
behavior modification.

 
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 From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
 

 
I have tried every clumping litter out there,  I think - I used to like World's 
Best - but I started not liking the smell when it gets old - it stinks - also 
two of my kitties developed liver failure and died - during the time I used 
World's best and I got nervous about whether if corn litter caused the disease -
 
I have been using Feline Fresh - but for some reason, the quality went down 
hill and does not clump well - (different from feline Pine) - I have been using 
Blue buffalo - I like it okay - though it gets heavier than corn when clumped, 
wheat, or pine - smells better - I think..
 



 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:04:57 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter


I used to used World's Best . I still think it's great, but I've started using 
the Blue Buffalo brand now & like it even better. If I wait until it's on sale 
it's as much as WB. It is expensive, but I change the litter half as often, so 
it works out in the end.

Beth

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 From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

-Try World's Best liter, based on corn.  If you scoop daily, it will last a 
long time.  I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe 
more in rainy/snowy weather.  Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in 
early am and early afternoon.  We much prefer dry leaves and dirt.


--- Edna Taylor wrote: > > I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't 
stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - 
PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose 
and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) > > Date: 
Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 > > From: felineres...@frontier.com > > To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter > > > 
> This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable > > 
litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked > > 
wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live > > in a 
very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopa

Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-11 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO

I have tried every clumping litter out there,  I think - I used to like World's 
Best - but I started not liking the smell when it gets old - it stinks - also 
two of my kitties developed liver failure and died - during the time I used 
World's best and I got nervous about whether if corn litter caused the disease -
 
I have been using Feline Fresh - but for some reason, the quality went down 
hill and does not clump well - (different from feline Pine) - I have been using 
Blue buffalo - I like it okay - though it gets heavier than corn when clumped, 
wheat, or pine - smells better - I think..
 



Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:04:57 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter



I used to used World's Best . I still think it's great, but I've started using 
the Blue Buffalo brand now & like it even better. If I wait until it's on sale 
it's as much as WB. It is expensive, but I change the litter half as often, so 
it works out in the end.

Beth

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From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

-Try World's Best liter, based on corn.  If you scoop daily, it will last a 
long time.  I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe 
more in rainy/snowy weather.  Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in 
early am and early afternoon.  We much prefer dry leaves and dirt.


--- Edna Taylor wrote: > > I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't 
stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - 
PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose 
and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) > > Date: 
Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 > > From: felineres...@frontier.com > > To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter > > > 
> This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable > > 
litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked > > 
wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live > > in a 
very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable > > here. 
I'll try on line. > > > > Lorrie > > > > On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote: > > > I 
use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet > > > 
in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves > > > 
less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. > > > > > > L 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-11 Thread Beth
I used to used World's Best . I still think it's great, but I've started using 
the Blue Buffalo brand now & like it even better. If I wait until it's on sale 
it's as much as WB. It is expensive, but I change the litter half as often, so 
it works out in the end.

Beth

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 From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
 
-Try World's Best liter, based on corn.  If you scoop daily, it will last a 
long time.  I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe 
more in rainy/snowy weather.  Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in 
early am and early afternoon.  We much prefer dry leaves and dirt.


--- Edna Taylor wrote: > > I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't 
stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - 
PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose 
and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) > > Date: 
Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 > > From: felineres...@frontier.com > > To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter > > > 
> This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable > > 
litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked > > 
wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live > > in a 
very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable > > here. 
I'll try on line. > > > > Lorrie > > > > On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote: > > > I 
use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet > > > 
in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps
 better and leaves > > > less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a 
long time too. > > > > > > L > > > > > > > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-11 Thread Lynda Wilson
My kitties don’t care much for the hard pellets either (they prefer the 
feline pine clumping), but if your babies don't mind it, then that's great! 
Whatever works and to each it's own :)


L

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From: dlg...@windstream.net

Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter


I had tried Feline Pine pellets and my guys did not like them.  Got stuck 
between their pads and they went outside the bos in protest.  Also, the 
pellets disolved into dust and I could not scoop it very good.  World's Best 
makes nice clumps that life out nicely.


 Lee Evans  wrote:
I use pine pellets, $5.99 (tax exempt) at the feed store.  A 40 lb. bag 
lasts me about a week.  I scoop every day, dump and wash 5 boxes every 3-4 
days.  I have about 24 cats pooping and peeing non-stop in the boxes. 
Over 4 days turns into a major disaster.  Of course, some of them "think" 
outside of the box.  Then it's scrape and mop time.  When I get some money 
(future, never?) I'm going to enclose my deck with the same gauge wire 
that my cat enclosure has.  It's strong, not chicken wire so no 
possibility of injuries from cuts and keeps the cats contained (top also 
wired).  Once the deck is enclosed they will have a living room size space 
to bird watch, moth hunt and laugh at the peacock.  I will also be able to 
put a few litter boxes out there and if someone thinks outside of the box, 
there's the garden hose!!




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From: Amanda Vollaro 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones.
Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes?
Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really 
expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats 
Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm 
running up a bill that's about $100 per week!

Argh.
Amanda Vollaro
avoll...@optonline.net
516-350-0131
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter


-Try World's Best liter, based on corn.  If you scoop daily, it will last 
a long time.  I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, 
maybe more in rainy/snowy weather.  Course my guys go out for a couple of 
hours in early am and early afternoon.  We much prefer dry leaves and 
dirt.




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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-11 Thread dlgegg

I had tried Feline Pine pellets and my guys did not like them.  Got stuck 
between their pads and they went outside the bos in protest.  Also, the pellets 
disolved into dust and I could not scoop it very good.  World's Best makes nice 
clumps that life out nicely.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> I use pine pellets, $5.99 (tax exempt) at the feed store.  A 40 lb. bag lasts 
> me about a week.  I scoop every day, dump and wash 5 boxes every 3-4 days.  I 
> have about 24 cats pooping and peeing non-stop in the boxes.  Over 4 days 
> turns into a major disaster.  Of course, some of them "think" outside of the 
> box.  Then it's scrape and mop time.  When I get some money (future, never?) 
> I'm going to enclose my deck with the same gauge wire that my cat enclosure 
> has.  It's strong, not chicken wire so no possibility of injuries from cuts 
> and keeps the cats contained (top also wired).  Once the deck is enclosed 
> they will have a living room size space to bird watch, moth hunt and laugh at 
> the peacock.  I will also be able to put a few litter boxes out there and if 
> someone thinks outside of the box, there's the garden hose!!


 
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 From: Amanda Vollaro 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
 
I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones.
Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes?
Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, 
but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm 
using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill 
that's about $100 per week!
Argh.
Amanda Vollaro
avoll...@optonline.net
516-350-0131
----- Original Message - From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter


> -Try World's Best liter, based on corn.  If you scoop daily, it will last a 
> long time.  I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe 
> more in rainy/snowy weather.  Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in 
> early am and early afternoon.  We much prefer dry leaves and dirt.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-11 Thread dlgegg
World's Best at Tractor Supply runs around $14.00 per bag.  But it does last 
longer than the clay, is biodegradeable and weighs a lot less so I don't get a 
hernia bringing it in the house.  I scoop 2 times a day and add new only when 
the box gets low so it lasts a lot longer and it seems to track less than the 
clay and does not irritate my nose like clay dust does.  I have tracking only 
because of Dee, she is an overachiever wehn it comes ot covering.  She even 
goes in the box and covers after others who she does not considerto have done a 
good job.  Harley on the other hand does his thing and does not cover at all.  
Dee does it for him.  I do let them out in early am and early afternoon.  I 
live in the middle of the woods so no people problem, just critters and if they 
are not out at night, don't have that problem.  They usually stay out for 2 - 3 
hours and most of that time are on the deck soaking up the sun.  This helps 
some on the litter problem as we do love dry leaves.
 Amanda Vollaro  wrote: 
> I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones.
> Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes?
> Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really 
> expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats 
> Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm 
> running up a bill that's about $100 per week!
> Argh.
> Amanda Vollaro
> avoll...@optonline.net
> 516-350-0131
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> 
> > -Try World's Best liter, based on corn.  If you scoop daily, it will last 
> > a long time.  I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, 
> > maybe more in rainy/snowy weather.  Course my guys go out for a couple of 
> > hours in early am and early afternoon.  We much prefer dry leaves and 
> > dirt.
> > 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-11 Thread Lee Evans
I use pine pellets, $5.99 (tax exempt) at the feed store.  A 40 lb. bag lasts 
me about a week.  I scoop every day, dump and wash 5 boxes every 3-4 days.  I 
have about 24 cats pooping and peeing non-stop in the boxes.  Over 4 days turns 
into a major disaster.  Of course, some of them "think" outside of the box.  
Then it's scrape and mop time.  When I get some money (future, never?) I'm 
going to enclose my deck with the same gauge wire that my cat enclosure has.  
It's strong, not chicken wire so no possibility of injuries from cuts and keeps 
the cats contained (top also wired).  Once the deck is enclosed they will have 
a living room size space to bird watch, moth hunt and laugh at the peacock.  I 
will also be able to put a few litter boxes out there and if someone thinks 
outside of the box, there's the garden hose!!


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Amanda Vollaro 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
 
I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones.
Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes?
Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, 
but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm 
using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill 
that's about $100 per week!
Argh.
Amanda Vollaro
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> -Try World's Best liter, based on corn.  If you scoop daily, it will last a 
> long time.  I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe 
> more in rainy/snowy weather.  Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in 
> early am and early afternoon.  We much prefer dry leaves and dirt.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-11 Thread Amanda Vollaro

I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones.
Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes?
Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really 
expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats 
Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm 
running up a bill that's about $100 per week!

Argh.
Amanda Vollaro
avoll...@optonline.net
516-350-0131
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From: 

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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM
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-Try World's Best liter, based on corn.  If you scoop daily, it will last 
a long time.  I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, 
maybe more in rainy/snowy weather.  Course my guys go out for a couple of 
hours in early am and early afternoon.  We much prefer dry leaves and 
dirt.




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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-11 Thread dlgegg
-Try World's Best liter, based on corn.  If you scoop daily, it will last a 
long time.  I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe 
more in rainy/snowy weather.  Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in 
early am and early afternoon.  We much prefer dry leaves and dirt.


--- Edna Taylor wrote: > > I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't 
stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - 
PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose 
and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) > > Date: 
Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 > > From: felineres...@frontier.com > > To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter > > > 
> This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable > > 
litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked > > 
wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live > > in a 
very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable > > here. 
I'll try on line. > > > > Lorrie > > > > On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote: > > > I 
use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet > > > 
in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves > > > 
less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. > > > > > > L 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-10 Thread Lynda Wilson
Hi Edna 

You must have a sensitive nose. I don’t smell it when the urine hits the 
clumping pine. I truly love this cat litter and so do my fur-boys, thank 
goodness. It really has improved immensely.  I just wish Petsmart would not 
store it on the top shelf. The box is almost twice as heavy as it was before 
they improved it (I purchase the clumping litter – not the hard pellets in the 
bag).

I hope you and your fur-kids like it just as well, Lorrie.

Whatever works for all our fur-babies, right?!

L

From: Edna Taylor 
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

I am glad some can use the pine litter.  I couldn't stand the smell once it 
interacts with poop and/or urine - 
PEEEUU.  I have a very sensitive nose 
and just can't abide some smells.  Hence the scoopable clay litter ;)
 

> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400
> From: felineres...@frontier.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable
> litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked
> wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live
> in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable
> here. I'll try on line.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:
> > I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet 
> > in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves 
> > less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too.
> > 
> > L
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-10 Thread Edna Taylor

I am glad some can use the pine litter.  I couldn't stand the smell once it 
interacts with poop and/or urine - 
PEEEUU.  I have a very sensitive nose 
and just can't abide some smells.  Hence the scoopable clay litter ;)
 > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400
> From: felineres...@frontier.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable
> litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked
> wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho.  The problem is we now live
> in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable
> here.  I'll try on line.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:
> > I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet 
> > in my opinion).  It has improved immensely!  It clumps better and leaves 
> > less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too.
> > 
> > L
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-09 Thread Lorrie
This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable
litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked
wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho.  The problem is we now live
in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable
here.  I'll try on line.

Lorrie

On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:
> I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet 
> in my opinion).  It has improved immensely!  It clumps better and leaves 
> less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too.
> 
> L
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread dlgegg

That is why I went to World's Best, it lasts longer plus it doesn't weigh as 
much as clay and can be composted.  So far, I have no smell from the compost 
pit.

 Joslin Potter  wrote: 
> I really like the Worlds best cat litter, it's not only flushable but doesn't 
> have that dust either. 15 lb bag lasts me about 3 weeks or so with 2 cats.

 


 From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
  
I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.

I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
is so bad.

Lorrie


On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> 
>    Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
>    info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
>    beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
>    is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
>    themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> 
>    People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
>    the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
>    pretty disgusting, too!
> 
>    Natalie
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread dlgegg
I HAVE 7 CATS AND USE WORLD'S BEST LITTER.  NOT CLAY.  IT IS BIODEGREADABLE SO 
CAN GO INTO A "SPECIAL" COMPOST PIT.  MADE FROM CORN SO CLUMPS NICELY AND NO 
REAL ODOR.  I SCOOP 2 x A DAY BECAUSE I HAVE A COUPLE WHO REFUSE TO USE THE BOX 
IF EVEN 1 CORNER IS SOILED.


 Natalie  wrote: 
> For an average of 70 cats, I cannot afford to dump litter, and or the
> delightful aroma it would cause if I didn't do it 2x/day or more, as needed.
> It doesn't matter whether it's dusty or not, clumping litter still contains
> sodium bentonite, and it doesn't have to be listed on the bag/box.  The one
> and only way of knowing whether it doesn't contain SB, is if it's allowed to
> be flushed down a toilet; its' a compound used in construction to seal the
> space between earth and foundation by absorbing 15 times its weight in
> liquid.  It can get into a cat's urethra and cause a blockage, get ingested
> when grooming and cause intestinal blockage or when inhaled, turn into a
> solid block in the lungs by absorbing the moisture.
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
> Evans
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 6:12 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
>  
> 
> Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the
> back.  I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture
> end table.  It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and
> the cats like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop
> that, no claws!!"  I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats
> because of really weak knees.  Whoever coined the term "Golden Years" was
> probably not yet 18.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Edna Taylor 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
>  
> 
> Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good
> whatsoever ;)
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700
> From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down
> the drain or into the garbage.  I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40
> lbs. at Tractor Supply.  At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury.
> The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all
> the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the
> cats dig and then track with their paws.  Yellow, yellow everywhere.  I use
> a light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes
> all that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I
> pour the pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless
> I don't dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days,
> scoop the poop every day. Lots of work.  For this I needed a college degree?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Lorrie 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> 
> I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
> litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
> stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
> with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
> boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
> the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.
> 
> I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
> litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
> seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
> is so bad.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> 
> On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> > 
> >Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
> >info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
> >beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
> >is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
> >themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> > 
> >People always seem to th

Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Wow!  I didn't know that!  Makes me reconsider what I'm using in my six 
boxes... Used to use "World's Best" but it is also 'world's most expensive'... 
Got to rethink it now. Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone



On Oct 8, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> For an average of 70 cats, I cannot afford to dump litter, and or the 
> delightful aroma it would cause if I didn’t do it 2x/day or more, as needed. 
> It doesn’t matter whether it’s dusty or not, clumping litter still contains 
> sodium bentonite, and it doesn’t have to be listed on the bag/box.  The one 
> and only way of knowing whether it doesn’t contain SB, is if it’s allowed to 
> be flushed down a toilet; its’ a compound used in construction to seal the 
> space between earth and foundation by absorbing 15 times its weight in 
> liquid.  It can get into a cat’s urethra and cause a blockage, get ingested 
> when grooming and cause intestinal blockage or when inhaled, turn into a 
> solid block in the lungs by absorbing the moisture.
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee 
> Evans
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 6:12 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
>  
> Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the back. 
>  I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture end 
> table.  It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and the 
> cats like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop that, 
> no claws!!"  I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats because of 
> really weak knees.  Whoever coined the term "Golden Years" was probably not 
> yet 18.
>  
>  
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
> 
>  
> From: Edna Taylor 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
>  
> Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good 
> whatsoever ;)
>  
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700
> From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down 
> the drain or into the garbage.  I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 
> lbs. at Tractor Supply.  At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury.  
> The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all 
> the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the 
> cats dig and then track with their paws.  Yellow, yellow everywhere.  I use a 
> light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all 
> that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the 
> pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't 
> dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop 
> the poop every day. Lots of work.  For this I needed a college degree?
>  
>  
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
> 
>  
> From: Lorrie 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
> litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
> stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
> with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
> boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
> the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.
> 
> I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
> litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
> seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
> is so bad.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> 
> On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> > 
> >Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
> >info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
> >beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
> >is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
> >themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> > 
> >People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
> >the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
> >pretty

Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Natalie
For an average of 70 cats, I cannot afford to dump litter, and or the
delightful aroma it would cause if I didn't do it 2x/day or more, as needed.
It doesn't matter whether it's dusty or not, clumping litter still contains
sodium bentonite, and it doesn't have to be listed on the bag/box.  The one
and only way of knowing whether it doesn't contain SB, is if it's allowed to
be flushed down a toilet; its' a compound used in construction to seal the
space between earth and foundation by absorbing 15 times its weight in
liquid.  It can get into a cat's urethra and cause a blockage, get ingested
when grooming and cause intestinal blockage or when inhaled, turn into a
solid block in the lungs by absorbing the moisture.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 6:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

 

Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the
back.  I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture
end table.  It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and
the cats like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop
that, no claws!!"  I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats
because of really weak knees.  Whoever coined the term "Golden Years" was
probably not yet 18.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 

  _  

From: Edna Taylor 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

 

Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good
whatsoever ;)
 

  _  

Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down
the drain or into the garbage.  I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40
lbs. at Tractor Supply.  At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury.
The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all
the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the
cats dig and then track with their paws.  Yellow, yellow everywhere.  I use
a light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes
all that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I
pour the pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless
I don't dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days,
scoop the poop every day. Lots of work.  For this I needed a college degree?

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 

  _  

From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter


I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.

I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
is so bad.

Lorrie


On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> 
>Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
>info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
>beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
>is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
>themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> 
>People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
>the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
>pretty disgusting, too!
> 
>Natalie
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Lynda Wilson
I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet 
in my opinion).  It has improved immensely!  It clumps better and leaves 
less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too.


L

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From: Lorrie

Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 3:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but
with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter
boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with
the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.

I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
is so bad.

Lorrie


On 10-08, Natalie wrote:


   Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
   info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
   beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
   is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
   themselves - or kittens, while playing.

   People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
   the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
   pretty disgusting, too!

   Natalie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Ok .Litter topic...I have 60 cats . I use Cedarific...It is 
light weight...the pellets only breakdown when peed on.I hate 
clumping...So, pine trees win...Cathy Bronx N Y 


From: Lee Evans 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter


Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the back.  
I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture end 
table.  It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and the cats 
like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop that, no 
claws!!"  I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats because of 
really weak knees.  Whoever coined the term "Golden Years" was probably not yet 
18.



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From: Edna Taylor 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter


Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good 
whatsoever ;)
 

Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter


I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the 
drain or into the garbage.  I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at 
Tractor Supply.  At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury.  The pine 
breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to 
prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and 
then track with their paws.  Yellow, yellow everywhere.  I use a light weight 
variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go 
airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it 
really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often 
enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every 
day. Lots of work.  For this I needed a college degree?



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From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.

I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
is so bad.

Lorrie


On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> 
>    Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
>    info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
>    beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
>    is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
>    themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> 
>    People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
>    the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
>    pretty disgusting, too!
> 
>    Natalie
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Lee Evans
Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the back.  
I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture end 
table.  It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and the cats 
like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop that, no 
claws!!"  I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats because of 
really weak knees.  Whoever coined the term "Golden Years" was probably not yet 
18.


 
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too!





 From: Edna Taylor 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
 

 
Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good 
whatsoever ;)
 



Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter


I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the 
drain or into the garbage.  I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at 
Tractor Supply.  At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury.  The pine 
breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to 
prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and 
then track with their paws.  Yellow, yellow everywhere.  I use a light weight 
variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go 
airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it 
really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often 
enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every 
day. Lots of work.  For this I needed a college degree?


 
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 From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
 
I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.

I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
is so bad.

Lorrie


On 10-08, Natalie
 wrote:
> 
>    Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
>    info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
>    beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
>    is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
>    themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> 
>    People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
>    the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
>    pretty disgusting, too!
> 
>    Natalie
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Edna Taylor

Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good 
whatsoever ;)
 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the 
drain or into the garbage.  I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at 
Tractor Supply.  At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury.  The pine 
breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to 
prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and 
then track with their paws.  Yellow, yellow everywhere.  I use a light weight 
variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go 
airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it 
really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often 
enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every 
day. Lots of work.  For this I
 needed a college degree?

 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!


From: Lorrie 
 To:
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
   
I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.

I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
is so bad.

Lorrie


On 10-08, Natalie
 wrote:
> 
>Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
>info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
>beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
>is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
>themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> 
>People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
>the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
>pretty disgusting, too!
> 
>Natalie
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Edna Taylor

What I would recommend when dumping and completely changing out litter is to 
use a plastic pitcher and scoop the litter out into another container, clean 
the box and then scoop it back and add fresh.  Also, if I am working on 
something that requires me to be bent over for a period of time, I use the: 2 
in 1 Large Steel-Framed 
Folding Garden Kneeler/Seat with Thick Foam Pad  
http://www.amazon.com/Large-Steel-Framed-Folding-Garden-Kneeler/dp/B004QBMZUM/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1349731118&sr=8-5&keywords=gardening+seat
  You can purchase it from amazon or from Home Depot or Lowes and it's great 
for kneeling on when painting baseboard because the legs act as a handle with 
which to push yourself back up OR you can sit on it while cleaning and/or 
scooping litterboxes.  It is very lightweight and you can drag it around to the 
different boxes :)
 > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:31:24 -0400
> From: felineres...@frontier.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
> litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
> stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
> with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
> boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
> the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.
> 
> I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
> litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
> seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
> is so bad.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> 
> On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> > 
> >Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
> >info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
> >beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
> >is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
> >themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> > 
> >People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
> >the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
> >pretty disgusting, too!
> > 
> >Natalie
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Lee Evans
I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the 
drain or into the garbage.  I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at 
Tractor Supply.  At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury.  The pine 
breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to 
prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and 
then track with their paws.  Yellow, yellow everywhere.  I use a light weight 
variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go 
airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it 
really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often 
enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every 
day. Lots of work.  For this I needed a college degree?


 
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 From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
 
I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.

I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
is so bad.

Lorrie


On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> 
>    Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
>    info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
>    beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
>    is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
>    themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> 
>    People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
>    the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
>    pretty disgusting, too!
> 
>    Natalie
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Edna Taylor

We use Tidy Cat scoopable litter and have ever since we got Momma Kat 17+ years 
ago.  We scoop twice a day, everyday and extra if someone drops a bomb.  While 
Tidy Cat does track worse than others, it does not have the dust that the 
others have.  So far, I don't think we have had any issues from it and I am 
sure the kitties like having a cleaner smelling box.  We have tried the wheat 
stuff, and the pine (OMG, that stinks to high heaven) and some other things but 
always go back to scoopable.  Unfortunately, when you have high numbers you 
have to use something that keeps your house from smelling like one giant poop.
 > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:31:24 -0400
> From: felineres...@frontier.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
> litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
> stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
> with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
> boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
> the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.
> 
> I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
> litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
> seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
> is so bad.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> 
> On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> > 
> >Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
> >info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
> >beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
> >is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
> >themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> > 
> >People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
> >the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
> >pretty disgusting, too!
> > 
> >Natalie
> > 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Joslin Potter
I really like the Worlds best cat litter, it's not only flushable but doesn't 
have that dust either. 15 lb bag lasts me about 3 weeks or so with 2 cats.

 


 From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
  
I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.

I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
is so bad.

Lorrie


On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> 
>    Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
>    info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
>    beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
>    is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
>    themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> 
>    People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
>    the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
>    pretty disgusting, too!
> 
>    Natalie
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Lorrie
I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.

I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
is so bad.

Lorrie


On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> 
>Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
>info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
>beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
>is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
>themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> 
>People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
>the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
>pretty disgusting, too!
> 
>Natalie
> 

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