Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
You tried your best, and your cat had your unconditional love. --- On Tue, 9/28/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 4:32 AM Claudia How kind you were to try and save your kitty. Sometimes there really isn't anything we can do. You love for Cheshire was probably the greatest gift and most comforting thing you could give her. Deepest condolences, and prayers of love and light for Cheshire in her crossing. Bonnie - Original Message - From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:41 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over My sweet, beautiful little Cheshire crossed the rainbow bridge last Wednesday night. She had only been sick for less than 10 days. She was on antibiotics and some pred for 10 days for gum problems. I was going to schedule her for a cleaning in a few weeks, but her health seemed to decline a few days after that. She started hiding under the bed, and not eating, when seh came out, I saw a growth on her throat area, adn took her to the vet. They weren't sure if it was a abcess or worse. I took her back seveveral times over the course of 6 days, she had to be given fluids through IV, and I syringe fed her. I've never been through anything like this before. I was praying for her. On wednesday they told me they couldn't do surgery to remove the cyst 'cause she was so anemic and her blood count was so low, it looked like she had leukemia. The only thing to do was bring her home or try to get her more help at the vet hospial where they have cancer specialists for a transfusion. I brought her there. They had an extensive list of treatment for her, and costs. It was stressful. I gave them permission for treatment and a deposit before they could do anything. They told me she started to go into distress when put in the Oxygen tank and tube, I wanted them to do whatver they could to help her, and Cheshire blinked at me when I was in the room with her right next to her. She wasn't really blinking before that as whe had a tube in her mouth that was helping her breath. This was so painful for me. Her heart gave out, and that's how she went. I don't know if anyone on here has been through anything like this, but I've wondered if by brining her to that hospital and trhing to get here more help to stabilize her for a transfusion caused her more distresss that lead to her passing? I've talked to the doctors who told me no, that didn't do it, she was just very sick,a nd even if i'd brought her home, she would haev onyl survived a few days or 24 hours. I even had jsut bought the Mega C plus which I had heard good things about reversing felv. I told her how much I love her and she knows that until I see her again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
My sweet, beautiful little Cheshire crossed the rainbow bridge last Wednesday night. She had only been sick for less than 10 days. She was on antibiotics and some pred for 10 days for gum problems. I was going to schedule her for a cleaning in a few weeks, but her health seemed to decline a few days after that. She started hiding under the bed, and not eating, when seh came out, I saw a growth on her throat area, adn took her to the vet. They weren't sure if it was a abcess or worse. I took her back seveveral times over the course of 6 days, she had to be given fluids through IV, and I syringe fed her. I've never been through anything like this before. I was praying for her. On wednesday they told me they couldn't do surgery to remove the cyst 'cause she was so anemic and her blood count was so low, it looked like she had leukemia. The only thing to do was bring her home or try to get her more help at the vet hospial where they have cancer specialists for a transfusion. I brought her there. They had an extensive list of treatment for her, and costs. It was stressful. I gave them permission for treatment and a deposit before they could do anything. They told me she started to go into distress when put in the Oxygen tank and tube, I wanted them to do whatver they could to help her, and Cheshire blinked at me when I was in the room with her right next to her. She wasn't really blinking before that as whe had a tube in her mouth that was helping her breath. This was so painful for me. Her heart gave out, and that's how she went. I don't know if anyone on here has been through anything like this, but I've wondered if by brining her to that hospital and trhing to get here more help to stabilize her for a transfusion caused her more distresss that lead to her passing? I've talked to the doctors who told me no, that didn't do it, she was just very sick,a nd even if i'd brought her home, she would haev onyl survived a few days or 24 hours. I even had jsut bought the Mega C plus which I had heard good things about reversing felv. I told her how much I love her and she knows that until I see her again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
So sorry about your sweet baby Cheshire. You did the right thing she knew you loved her. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Mon, 9/27/10, Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 5:41 PM My sweet, beautiful little Cheshire crossed the rainbow bridge last Wednesday night. She had only been sick for less than 10 days. She was on antibiotics and some pred for 10 days for gum problems. I was going to schedule her for a cleaning in a few weeks, but her health seemed to decline a few days after that. She started hiding under the bed, and not eating, when seh came out, I saw a growth on her throat area, adn took her to the vet. They weren't sure if it was a abcess or worse. I took her back seveveral times over the course of 6 days, she had to be given fluids through IV, and I syringe fed her. I've never been through anything like this before. I was praying for her. On wednesday they told me they couldn't do surgery to remove the cyst 'cause she was so anemic and her blood count was so low, it looked like she had leukemia. The only thing to do was bring her home or try to get her more help at the vet hospial where they have cancer specialists for a transfusion. I brought her there. They had an extensive list of treatment for her, and costs. It was stressful. I gave them permission for treatment and a deposit before they could do anything. They told me she started to go into distress when put in the Oxygen tank and tube, I wanted them to do whatver they could to help her, and Cheshire blinked at me when I was in the room with her right next to her. She wasn't really blinking before that as whe had a tube in her mouth that was helping her breath. This was so painful for me. Her heart gave out, and that's how she went. I don't know if anyone on here has been through anything like this, but I've wondered if by brining her to that hospital and trhing to get here more help to stabilize her for a transfusion caused her more distresss that lead to her passing? I've talked to the doctors who told me no, that didn't do it, she was just very sick,a nd even if i'd brought her home, she would haev onyl survived a few days or 24 hours. I even had jsut bought the Mega C plus which I had heard good things about reversing felv. I told her how much I love her and she knows that until I see her again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
It was good you were with her. Of cause she blinked at you.But, we all have a time to go. I know what you feel. Regards,Cathy --- On Mon, 9/27/10, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 6:28 PM So sorry about your sweet baby Cheshire. You did the right thing she knew you loved her. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Mon, 9/27/10, Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 5:41 PM My sweet, beautiful little Cheshire crossed the rainbow bridge last Wednesday night. She had only been sick for less than 10 days. She was on antibiotics and some pred for 10 days for gum problems. I was going to schedule her for a cleaning in a few weeks, but her health seemed to decline a few days after that. She started hiding under the bed, and not eating, when seh came out, I saw a growth on her throat area, adn took her to the vet. They weren't sure if it was a abcess or worse. I took her back seveveral times over the course of 6 days, she had to be given fluids through IV, and I syringe fed her. I've never been through anything like this before. I was praying for her. On wednesday they told me they couldn't do surgery to remove the cyst 'cause she was so anemic and her blood count was so low, it looked like she had leukemia. The only thing to do was bring her home or try to get her more help at the vet hospial where they have cancer specialists for a transfusion. I brought her there. They had an extensive list of treatment for her, and costs. It was stressful. I gave them permission for treatment and a deposit before they could do anything. They told me she started to go into distress when put in the Oxygen tank and tube, I wanted them to do whatver they could to help her, and Cheshire blinked at me when I was in the room with her right next to her. She wasn't really blinking before that as whe had a tube in her mouth that was helping her breath. This was so painful for me. Her heart gave out, and that's how she went. I don't know if anyone on here has been through anything like this, but I've wondered if by brining her to that hospital and trhing to get here more help to stabilize her for a transfusion caused her more distresss that lead to her passing? I've talked to the doctors who told me no, that didn't do it, she was just very sick,a nd even if i'd brought her home, she would haev onyl survived a few days or 24 hours. I even had jsut bought the Mega C plus which I had heard good things about reversing felv. I told her how much I love her and she knows that until I see her again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
Claudia, I'm so sorry for your loss. You have done everything you can to restore her health and to make her as comfortable as you could. Sometimes, we just have to take comfort in that, even though your heart aches terribly from your loss. You didn't do anything to hasten her transition, and she surely is thankful for your love and devotion. Bless you for caring so much. We will light a candle in Southern California tonight in her memory...also for your healing. Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Claudia Veiga Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over My sweet, beautiful little Cheshire crossed the rainbow bridge last Wednesday night. She had only been sick for less than 10 days. She was on antibiotics and some pred for 10 days for gum problems. I was going to schedule her for a cleaning in a few weeks, but her health seemed to decline a few days after that. She started hiding under the bed, and not eating, when seh came out, I saw a growth on her throat area, adn took her to the vet. They weren't sure if it was a abcess or worse. I took her back seveveral times over the course of 6 days, she had to be given fluids through IV, and I syringe fed her. I've never been through anything like this before. I was praying for her. On wednesday they told me they couldn't do surgery to remove the cyst 'cause she was so anemic and her blood count was so low, it looked like she had leukemia. The only thing to do was bring her home or try to get her more help at the vet hospial where they have cancer specialists for a transfusion. I brought her there. They had an extensive list of treatment for her, and costs. It was stressful. I gave them permission for treatment and a deposit before they could do anything. They told me she started to go into distress when put in the Oxygen tank and tube, I wanted them to do whatver they could to help her, and Cheshire blinked at me when I was in the room with her right next to her. She wasn't really blinking before that as whe had a tube in her mouth that was helping her breath. This was so painful for me. Her heart gave out, and that's how she went. I don't know if anyone on here has been through anything like this, but I've wondered if by brining her to that hospital and trhing to get here more help to stabilize her for a transfusion caused her more distresss that lead to her passing? I've talked to the doctors who told me no, that didn't do it, she was just very sick,a nd even if i'd brought her home, she would haev onyl survived a few days or 24 hours. I even had jsut bought the Mega C plus which I had heard good things about reversing felv. I told her how much I love her and she knows that until I see her again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 5484 (20100927) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
You did what you thought was the right thing for Cheshire and that is what counts. With multiple problems is is hard to get them stable enough for effective treatments. I've had cats get super stressed out going to the vet and others that don't mind at all. If you hadn't tried to help her you would always question yourself wondering if there was something else you could have done. At least now you know you did everything possible to help her. In the end we love them, care for them and let them go. She knew you were trying to help her and you were there for her. That is what really counts. Sharyl --- On Mon, 9/27/10, Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 5:41 PM My sweet, beautiful little Cheshire crossed the rainbow bridge last Wednesday night. She had only been sick for less than 10 days. She was on antibiotics and some pred for 10 days for gum problems. I was going to schedule her for a cleaning in a few weeks, but her health seemed to decline a few days after that. She started hiding under the bed, and not eating, when seh came out, I saw a growth on her throat area, adn took her to the vet. They weren't sure if it was a abcess or worse. I took her back seveveral times over the course of 6 days, she had to be given fluids through IV, and I syringe fed her. I've never been through anything like this before. I was praying for her. On wednesday they told me they couldn't do surgery to remove the cyst 'cause she was so anemic and her blood count was so low, it looked like she had leukemia. The only thing to do was bring her home or try to get her more help at the vet hospial where they have cancer specialists for a transfusion. I brought her there. They had an extensive list of treatment for her, and costs. It was stressful. I gave them permission for treatment and a deposit before they could do anything. They told me she started to go into distress when put in the Oxygen tank and tube, I wanted them to do whatver they could to help her, and Cheshire blinked at me when I was in the room with her right next to her. She wasn't really blinking before that as whe had a tube in her mouth that was helping her breath. This was so painful for me. Her heart gave out, and that's how she went. I don't know if anyone on here has been through anything like this, but I've wondered if by brining her to that hospital and trhing to get here more help to stabilize her for a transfusion caused her more distresss that lead to her passing? I've talked to the doctors who told me no, that didn't do it, she was just very sick,a nd even if i'd brought her home, she would haev onyl survived a few days or 24 hours. I even had jsut bought the Mega C plus which I had heard good things about reversing felv. I told her how much I love her and she knows that until I see her again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
I am so sorry for your loss - I just had to euthanize one of our cats last weekit never gets easier, as some people who don't understand seem to think! I remember every cat, dog, bird, mouse we ever haddetailed circumstances, etc. - like a video going off in my mind! Natalie I Am Always With Her And God asked the feline spirit, Are you ready to come home? Oh, yes, quite so, replied the precious soul, And, as a cat, you know I am most able to decide anything for myself. Are you coming then? asked God. Soon, replied the whiskered angel, But I must come slowly, for my human friend is troubled For, you see, she needs me, quite certainly. But doesn't she understand? asked God, That you'll never leave her? That your souls are intertwined. For all eternity? That nothing is created or destroyed? It just isforever and ever and ever. Eventually she will understand, replied the glorious cat, For I will whisper into her heart that I am always with her, I just amforever and ever and ever. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Claudia Veiga Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over My sweet, beautiful little Cheshire crossed the rainbow bridge last Wednesday night. She had only been sick for less than 10 days. She was on antibiotics and some pred for 10 days for gum problems. I was going to schedule her for a cleaning in a few weeks, but her health seemed to decline a few days after that. She started hiding under the bed, and not eating, when seh came out, I saw a growth on her throat area, adn took her to the vet. They weren't sure if it was a abcess or worse. I took her back seveveral times over the course of 6 days, she had to be given fluids through IV, and I syringe fed her. I've never been through anything like this before. I was praying for her. On wednesday they told me they couldn't do surgery to remove the cyst 'cause she was so anemic and her blood count was so low, it looked like she had leukemia. The only thing to do was bring her home or try to get her more help at the vet hospial where they have cancer specialists for a transfusion. I brought her there. They had an extensive list of treatment for her, and costs. It was stressful. I gave them permission for treatment and a deposit before they could do anything. They told me she started to go into distress when put in the Oxygen tank and tube, I wanted them to do whatver they could to help her, and Cheshire blinked at me when I was in the room with her right next to her. She wasn't really blinking before that as whe had a tube in her mouth that was helping her breath. This was so painful for me. Her heart gave out, and that's how she went. I don't know if anyone on here has been through anything like this, but I've wondered if by brining her to that hospital and trhing to get here more help to stabilize her for a transfusion caused her more distresss that lead to her passing? I've talked to the doctors who told me no, that didn't do it, she was just very sick,a nd even if i'd brought her home, she would haev onyl survived a few days or 24 hours. I even had jsut bought the Mega C plus which I had heard good things about reversing felv. I told her how much I love her and she knows that until I see her again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
i think we all questions what we did or did or did not do. i keep asking myself what i missed that might have saved Bob's life. was he giving me signals that i just did not pick up on. all we can do is learn from each experience. i am sure Cheshire and Bob know and understood. they knew they were loved of that i am sure. Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote: My sweet, beautiful little Cheshire crossed the rainbow bridge last Wednesday night. She had only been sick for less than 10 days. She was on antibiotics and some pred for 10 days for gum problems. I was going to schedule her for a cleaning in a few weeks, but her health seemed to decline a few days after that. She started hiding under the bed, and not eating, when seh came out, I saw a growth on her throat area, adn took her to the vet. They weren't sure if it was a abcess or worse. I took her back seveveral times over the course of 6 days, she had to be given fluids through IV, and I syringe fed her. I've never been through anything like this before. I was praying for her. On wednesday they told me they couldn't do surgery to remove the cyst 'cause she was so anemic and her blood count was so low, it looked like she had leukemia. The only thing to do was bring her home or try to get her more help at the vet hospial where they have cancer specialists for a transfusion. I brought her there. They had an extensive list of treatment for her, and costs. It was stressful. I gave them permission for treatment and a deposit before they could do anything. They told me she started to go into distress when put in the Oxygen tank and tube, I wanted them to do whatver they could to help her, and Cheshire blinked at me when I was in the room with her right next to her. She wasn't really blinking before that as whe had a tube in her mouth that was helping her breath. This was so painful for me. Her heart gave out, and that's how she went. I don't know if anyone on here has been through anything like this, but I've wondered if by brining her to that hospital and trhing to get here more help to stabilize her for a transfusion caused her more distresss that lead to her passing? I've talked to the doctors who told me no, that didn't do it, she was just very sick,a nd even if i'd brought her home, she would haev onyl survived a few days or 24 hours. I even had jsut bought the Mega C plus which I had heard good things about reversing felv. I told her how much I love her and she knows that until I see her again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
Tiger (non FeLV) also had an abcess on his throat. It was drained but came back so fast. And his white blood cell count dropped so dramatically in two weeks that my vet thought he had leukemia, also. They had never seen anything like it. I also kept asking myself if there was anything I could have done, or anything I should have noticed. Then I realized that his infection came on so very quickly and with such strength that there probably wasn't a thing that could be done about it. Still, I have felt guilty for a month. He died overnight at the vet. I wanted the best for him, but I wish I could have been with him so he didn't have to die alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
My heart hurts for you Claudia. God bless you for your efforts for Cheshire. Don't beat yourself up over they way things happened at the end. You loved her, and that's all that she needed to know. Nothing else matters. Prayers for you and all who knew and loved Cheshire. Mike :) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
It also makes a big difference WHERE the abscess is located. If it's higher up and isn't able to drain on its own, chances of infections are much greater and more serious than if it were located on the side or underneath where it CAN drain on its own. I had one cat years ago that was bitten by another cat on top of her neck...she had to have a drain, which we had to flush out every day. I always hate it when a cat dies at the vet's overnight...I worry about how they felt, were they afraid, all alone, etc. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over Tiger (non FeLV) also had an abcess on his throat. It was drained but came back so fast. And his white blood cell count dropped so dramatically in two weeks that my vet thought he had leukemia, also. They had never seen anything like it. I also kept asking myself if there was anything I could have done, or anything I should have noticed. Then I realized that his infection came on so very quickly and with such strength that there probably wasn't a thing that could be done about it. Still, I have felt guilty for a month. He died overnight at the vet. I wanted the best for him, but I wish I could have been with him so he didn't have to die alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
Claudia How kind you were to try and save your kitty. Sometimes there really isn't anything we can do. You love for Cheshire was probably the greatest gift and most comforting thing you could give her. Deepest condolences, and prayers of love and light for Cheshire in her crossing. Bonnie - Original Message - From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:41 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over My sweet, beautiful little Cheshire crossed the rainbow bridge last Wednesday night. She had only been sick for less than 10 days. She was on antibiotics and some pred for 10 days for gum problems. I was going to schedule her for a cleaning in a few weeks, but her health seemed to decline a few days after that. She started hiding under the bed, and not eating, when seh came out, I saw a growth on her throat area, adn took her to the vet. They weren't sure if it was a abcess or worse. I took her back seveveral times over the course of 6 days, she had to be given fluids through IV, and I syringe fed her. I've never been through anything like this before. I was praying for her. On wednesday they told me they couldn't do surgery to remove the cyst 'cause she was so anemic and her blood count was so low, it looked like she had leukemia. The only thing to do was bring her home or try to get her more help at the vet hospial where they have cancer specialists for a transfusion. I brought her there. They had an extensive list of treatment for her, and costs. It was stressful. I gave them permission for treatment and a deposit before they could do anything. They told me she started to go into distress when put in the Oxygen tank and tube, I wanted them to do whatver they could to help her, and Cheshire blinked at me when I was in the room with her right next to her. She wasn't really blinking before that as whe had a tube in her mouth that was helping her breath. This was so painful for me. Her heart gave out, and that's how she went. I don't know if anyone on here has been through anything like this, but I've wondered if by brining her to that hospital and trhing to get here more help to stabilize her for a transfusion caused her more distresss that lead to her passing? I've talked to the doctors who told me no, that didn't do it, she was just very sick,a nd even if i'd brought her home, she would haev onyl survived a few days or 24 hours. I even had jsut bought the Mega C plus which I had heard good things about reversing felv. I told her how much I love her and she knows that until I see her again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat
i am a little late with this, but as long as the others are vaccinated, don't seperate them. i went thru the same thing and everyone was miserable. since then i have them wherever they want to be and everyone is doing well. each one picks out his/her favorite place to sleep and whenever i sit still very long, they all take turns on my lap. dorlis Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Yesterday, one of my four cats was diagnosed through the ELIZA test with FeLV, and I am just devastated. He's always been healthy; he's 3 y.o. and I'd had him since he was a kitten, until last year when he escaped while we were moving. He was on the streets for almost four months, then FOUND, and I've had him back since early December. My other three cats (two gotten after the original two disappeared, and one who was found with him and looks like his original sister but subsequently went into heat when she was fixed, so...) tested negative. Right now I have him in my bedroom, totally separate facilities, and he's miserable. I would really appreciate it if anyone had any information about infection rates in negative cats living with infected ones; if it's not safe, I'm going to have to find him a home with other infected cats, because he's too social to be isolated like that. Thanks, Molly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat
When one kitten in a litter I fostered tested positive, my vet said to keep everyone (my vaccinated cat and stray mom and her litter) together. I was so scared, but the folks on this list helped me to realize that this disease may not be as contagious as some think - and my vet concurred. I was lucky - it was a false positive. But because of the wonderful folks on this list I will take in another homeless cat and kittens and not worry at all because all of mine (I kept mom and one of the babies) are vaccinated. Then I will follow my vet's advice and test mom first, then work from there. Thanks to everyone on this list - maybe someday all kitties will have homes regardless of their FeLV status because of your bravery and persistence. Sally --- On Tue, 3/24/09, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 9:32 PM i am a little late with this, but as long as the others are vaccinated, don't seperate them. i went thru the same thing and everyone was miserable. since then i have them wherever they want to be and everyone is doing well. each one picks out his/her favorite place to sleep and whenever i sit still very long, they all take turns on my lap. dorlis Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Yesterday, one of my four cats was diagnosed through the ELIZA test with FeLV, and I am just devastated. He's always been healthy; he's 3 y.o. and I'd had him since he was a kitten, until last year when he escaped while we were moving. He was on the streets for almost four months, then FOUND, and I've had him back since early December. My other three cats (two gotten after the original two disappeared, and one who was found with him and looks like his original sister but subsequently went into heat when she was fixed, so...) tested negative. Right now I have him in my bedroom, totally separate facilities, and he's miserable. I would really appreciate it if anyone had any information about infection rates in negative cats living with infected ones; if it's not safe, I'm going to have to find him a home with other infected cats, because he's too social to be isolated like that. Thanks, Molly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My cat
Hello. Yesterday, one of my four cats was diagnosed through the ELIZA test with FeLV, and I am just devastated. He's always been healthy; he's 3 y.o. and I'd had him since he was a kitten, until last year when he escaped while we were moving. He was on the streets for almost four months, then FOUND, and I've had him back since early December. My other three cats (two gotten after the original two disappeared, and one who was found with him and looks like his original sister but subsequently went into heat when she was fixed, so...) tested negative. Right now I have him in my bedroom, totally separate facilities, and he's miserable. I would really appreciate it if anyone had any information about infection rates in negative cats living with infected ones; if it's not safe, I'm going to have to find him a home with other infected cats, because he's too social to be isolated like that. Thanks, Molly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat
Molly, have you vaccinated your three negative cats? I have a mixed household but my negative kitties were vaccinated. Sharyl --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com wrote: From: Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 5:01 AM Hello. Yesterday, one of my four cats was diagnosed through the ELIZA test with FeLV, and I am just devastated. He's always been healthy; he's 3 y.o. and I'd had him since he was a kitten, until last year when he escaped while we were moving. He was on the streets for almost four months, then FOUND, and I've had him back since early December. My other three cats (two gotten after the original two disappeared, and one who was found with him and looks like his original sister but subsequently went into heat when she was fixed, so...) tested negative. Right now I have him in my bedroom, totally separate facilities, and he's miserable. I would really appreciate it if anyone had any information about infection rates in negative cats living with infected ones; if it's not safe, I'm going to have to find him a home with other infected cats, because he's too social to be isolated like that. Thanks, Molly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat
Hey, That's a common forum of debate in this circle. The best data that I have seen suggests that approximately 70% of cats exposed to the virus will be able to mount an immune response capable of irradicating the virus. If the cats are vaccinated, this number jumps about 85-90%. It is not a perfect vaccine but it does help in certain instances. Of those cats that are not able to eradicate the virus about half will be able to suppress the effects and live a largely normal life with a near normal life span. The remaining are not capable to controlling the disease, develop symptoms and generally survive 3-5 years after exposure. It is a very common cause of death especially in stray cats and is transmitted through close contact (generally food, water and liter boxes - sometimes grooming). The virus is in high numbers in saliva. For this reason vets are very cautious when dealing with the virus. I am of the opinion, however, that there is a lot more fear in the disease than may be justified. It is certainly nothing to ignore, and those of us that have lost loved ones to the disease understand why, but I think there is a far lower rate of transmission and disease development that the general vet suggests. Hope this helps a little. There are many others in this group that can offer insight on this subject. Good luck. I do have a female cat I have isolated with felv at this point in time and am looking for a companion for her. I will help if I can. Jenny Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Yesterday, one of my four cats was diagnosed through the ELIZA test with FeLV, and I am just devastated. He's always been healthy; he's 3 y.o. and I'd had him since he was a kitten, until last year when he escaped while we were moving. He was on the streets for almost four months, then FOUND, and I've had him back since early December. My other three cats (two gotten after the original two disappeared, and one who was found with him and looks like his original sister but subsequently went into heat when she was fixed, so...) tested negative. Right now I have him in my bedroom, totally separate facilities, and he's miserable. I would really appreciate it if anyone had any information about infection rates in negative cats living with infected ones; if it's not safe, I'm going to have to find him a home with other infected cats, because he's too social to be isolated like that. Thanks, Molly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My cat
Sharyl, i haven't gotten that far--we will immunize them and let them interact, I think, but it's been less than 24 hours since diagnosis and we're still reeling. I have to talk to the vet, still,and we may try to keep them separate until the IRV? IRA? results come back, or even until after re-testing. As Sally said to Jenny, though, there's already been exposure, so I'm tempted to just immunize and mix. Molly Message: 7 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:12:02 -0800 (PST) From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: 50172.78849...@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Molly, have you vaccinated your three negative cats? I have a mixed household but my negative kitties were vaccinated. Sharyl --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com wrote: From: Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 5:01 AM Hello. Yesterday, one of my four cats was diagnosed through the ELIZA test with FeLV, and I am just devastated. He's always been healthy; he's 3 y.o. and I'd had him since he was a kitten, until last year when he escaped while we were moving. He was on the streets for almost four months, then FOUND, and I've had him back since early December. My other three cats (two gotten after the original two disappeared, and one who was found with him and looks like his original sister but subsequently went into heat when she was fixed, so...) tested negative. Right now I have him in my bedroom, totally separate facilities, and he's miserable. I would really appreciate it if anyone had any information about infection rates in negative cats living with infected ones; if it's not safe, I'm going to have to find him a home with other infected cats, because he's too social to be isolated like that. Thanks, Molly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat
When the vet suspected one of my seven was FeLV+ he reassured me by telling me my others had already been exposed, so no need to isolate him. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Molly, I'm sorry to hear about your furbaby. We understand that horrible feeling when you get a positive FeLV test result back. However, it isn't an immediate death sentence, and often there can be false positives on the tests. In addition, kitties can 'throw' the virus, meaning their immune systems reject the virus and they are no longer positive. I'm sure that's not the actual scientific explanation, but you get the idea. A stress-free environment, a great diet, with immune boosting supplements, and lots of love are the 3 best things you can do for your kitty. Many of us, including me, believe in mixing positives and negatives. I did, and my other 3 never contracted it from my positive and they were together for 4 years. You'll need to vaccinate your negatives though should you choose to mix. It's those cats with weakened immune systems, like kittens whose IS's are not fully developed yet, that are more susceptible. Plus fighting, where saliva can be transferred into the bloodstream, is also how it can be contracted. How long have your others been exposed to your positive? If it's been a while, and your others tested negative recently, then they have most likely been exposed, and aren't susceptible, especially if they are adults. That being said, there have been a few people here who have had negatives become positive, but it's rare in my opinion. I think it causes more stress to separate, especially if they are already used to being together. Is he symptomatic? What prompted you to test him? Thanks, Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:01:20 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat Hello. Yesterday, one of my four cats was diagnosed through the ELIZA test with FeLV, and I am just devastated. He's always been healthy; he's 3 y.o. and I'd had him since he was a kitten, until last year when he escaped while we were moving. He was on the streets for almost four months, then FOUND, and I've had him back since early December. My other three cats (two gotten after the original two disappeared, and one who was found with him and looks like his original sister but subsequently went into heat when she was fixed, so...) tested negative. Right now I have him in my bedroom, totally separate facilities, and he's miserable. I would really appreciate it if anyone had any information about infection rates in negative cats living with infected ones; if it's not safe, I'm going to have to find him a home with other infected cats, because he's too social to be isolated like that. Thanks, Molly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Poufy
I'm not sure if Peter is a list member or not, I got this as a bounce I believe so please respond to him at his email address, if you are a member Peter great, if not you can *join here* http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org: Peter's email: tai...@yahoo.com Peter's message: My cat, Poufy, a blue cymric, has been diagnosed with felv. I am devastated. But of the things I have found your site gives me the most hope. She is very weak, not eating or drinking, and I am having to syringe-feed and water her. My vet is not sanguine about the various treatments you list, and I wondered if you have any other vets in northern California besides UC Davis? I am in chico, and can get to Davis, (90 miles), but closer would be better. I do not want her to suffer needlessly. I am far too much in love with her for that. But if you can offer me any hope I will go to the wall for her. I raised her from a baby, and I love her as I love my own children. If I must I will give her an easy, warm, dignified ending. But I would much prefer to giver her some good, warm, happy days first. Peter and Poufy -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat, please advise, (long)
Amanda, I am so sorry to hear about your beloved kitty. Please don't blame yourself. It sounds like you loved him very much and did ALL you could for him, out of love. And yes, 7 years is a long time! A lot of FeLV+'s don't even live past 2-3 years. Mine lived 4.5 and I felt lucky to have had him that long. He developed anemia. The best you can do is feed a good diet, supplement with immune boosting things like l-lysine, etc., and keep kitty stress free. That's all we can do really. And love them to pieces. Other than that, it's up to the good Lord how long we are blessed with their presence, as any of our loved ones are. Please ask any specific questions you may have and the archives are a great place to look for really good info. Take care and I hope you are comforted by all the good memories you have of Silver Chan. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:18:27 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat, please advise, (long) Hi all, I'm Amanda I live in Japan, I don't know if I was a member here before or not, I keep going from group to group, but I need advice please. I just lost last week my beloved cat he was minus 4 months almost 7 years old! He was diagnosed when he was about 1 1/2 years old along with his sister. He also had a heart murmur that developed into a full heart problem when he was 3 years old. Besides taking the interferon when first had FeLV he never took any other medications, he was treated holistically and was on a raw diet, he would have cat food as a treat. He was very well sometimes had diarrea if ate too many bugs outside or ate a rat! He was an outside cat, but since just over 2 years ago I decided to have him on a harness and kept him inside as one of our cats got into a fight and had a heart attack ! He was healthy even. My cat (Sorry his name was Silver chan), at first cried to go outside, I had an outside cage for him too, and he soon ajusted to life on the leash, I'd take him for many walks aday as I could. Sometimes we'd be attacked by the neighbours tom cat (my cats are all neutered) and twice my cat got stressed out and bit me instead as a result! But other wise he was good natured. Since last fall 2007, I noticed that he didn't put on weight on, I even forgot about that it could be related to having FeLV , I thought maybe because he's on the leash and can't catch prey much now, sometimes he still did! Those days I was spoiling him with extra cat food with added rice, my husbands suggestion, I thought it was o.k since he did have abit of rice maybe once a week with fish, but he soon started getting stomach aches, so I stopped it, but would still sometimes give a teaspoon of cat food as a treat, mostly I'd try natural ones with no or low salt. I tried to keep him as stress free as possible knowing he had a heart problem. He was also on DMG, CoQ10, natto, and probiotics, for his heart. This year suddenly his voice changed abit, so off to the vets and they thought it maybe stress related, though I had gave him some chicken cat food that I never gave before, so I stopped that and soon his voice became normal again, that time was May and we had all the tests and x rays, and nothing was found. During the summer sometimes he would vomit and he always ate grass and maybe more lately, once or twice he vomitted a little blood, I thought he just had a delicate stomach, so took care not to give him too much food, ( he ate 3 small meals aday) He always had some stress from stray cats passing on garden /land, taht May he growled at one, so not sure if it was related. Anyway we adopted 3 more cats this summer, he's very good with other cats, but he would get annoyed if they followed us on our walks, but we soon left them and went alone which he loved but he didn't mind sharing the house with them. Well just over 3 weeks ago I noticed him breathing fast, I thought his heart had worsened but it was lymphoma cancer in his chest and fluid arround his lungs, we tried chemo but made him worst and he lost alot of weight, so he was just made comfortable for the last weeks, he died on the 22nd. Of course I'm going through the self blame phrase, I wish I hadn't given him cat food as snacks! and many other things, I have anorther cat who has it now, he had interferon and is now better and is on a raw diet and lactoferrin and digestive enzymes, is there anything else I can do for him? And do you think my cat Silver chan could have lived longer? I mean when he first lost weight last year, maybe he should have had interferon again? I'm sure it was all FeLV related but what could I or should I have done? I really thought he
[Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat, please advise, (long)
Hi all, I'm Amanda I live in Japan, I don't know if I was a member here before or not, I keep going from group to group, but I need advice please. I just lost last week my beloved cat he was minus 4 months almost 7 years old! He was diagnosed when he was about 1 1/2 years old along with his sister. He also had a heart murmur that developed into a full heart problem when he was 3 years old. Besides taking the interferon when first had FeLV he never took any other medications, he was treated holistically and was on a raw diet, he would have cat food as a treat. He was very well sometimes had diarrea if ate too many bugs outside or ate a rat! He was an outside cat, but since just over 2 years ago I decided to have him on a harness and kept him inside as one of our cats got into a fight and had a heart attack ! He was healthy even. My cat (Sorry his name was Silver chan), at first cried to go outside, I had an outside cage for him too, and he soon ajusted to life on the leash, I'd take him for many walks aday as I could. Sometimes we'd be attacked by the neighbours tom cat (my cats are all neutered) and twice my cat got stressed out and bit me instead as a result! But other wise he was good natured. Since last fall 2007, I noticed that he didn't put on weight on, I even forgot about that it could be related to having FeLV , I thought maybe because he's on the leash and can't catch prey much now, sometimes he still did! Those days I was spoiling him with extra cat food with added rice, my husbands suggestion, I thought it was o.k since he did have abit of rice maybe once a week with fish, but he soon started getting stomach aches, so I stopped it, but would still sometimes give a teaspoon of cat food as a treat, mostly I'd try natural ones with no or low salt. I tried to keep him as stress free as possible knowing he had a heart problem. He was also on DMG, CoQ10, natto, and probiotics, for his heart. This year suddenly his voice changed abit, so off to the vets and they thought it maybe stress related, though I had gave him some chicken cat food that I never gave before, so I stopped that and soon his voice became normal again, that time was May and we had all the tests and x rays, and nothing was found. During the summer sometimes he would vomit and he always ate grass and maybe more lately, once or twice he vomitted a little blood, I thought he just had a delicate stomach, so took care not to give him too much food, ( he ate 3 small meals aday) He always had some stress from stray cats passing on garden /land, taht May he growled at one, so not sure if it was related. Anyway we adopted 3 more cats this summer, he's very good with other cats, but he would get annoyed if they followed us on our walks, but we soon left them and went alone which he loved but he didn't mind sharing the house with them. Well just over 3 weeks ago I noticed him breathing fast, I thought his heart had worsened but it was lymphoma cancer in his chest and fluid arround his lungs, we tried chemo but made him worst and he lost alot of weight, so he was just made comfortable for the last weeks, he died on the 22nd. Of course I'm going through the self blame phrase, I wish I hadn't given him cat food as snacks! and many other things, I have anorther cat who has it now, he had interferon and is now better and is on a raw diet and lactoferrin and digestive enzymes, is there anything else I can do for him? And do you think my cat Silver chan could have lived longer? I mean when he first lost weight last year, maybe he should have had interferon again? I'm sure it was all FeLV related but what could I or should I have done? I really thought he didn't have FeLV anymore, and was just concerned about his heart! Please also tell me your stories, what age did your cats live to , what treatments, diet ect? I really don't want to make any more mistakes, I feel like I killed my cat giving him cat food that may have caused him to go downhill, or . I really don't know, but some people say living to be almost 7 with FeLV isn't so bad, his sister died age 3. Please advice, I'm making myself sick from this self guilt!!! please advice and help me through this and help me to help my new FeLV kitty!! Much love and hugs to you all, Amanda and Tabby ,Tora(FeLV) Nora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat, please advise, (long)
Dixie lived with me for 3 years. She was full grown when she came from a pine thicket where she had been living with a feral colony. She had the absolute best care possible both from her regular vets and holistic vets. When she left, I felt and continue to feel, that I had given her everything. I am sure there are things I might do differently and she left June 12, 2008. But everything I did for her I did with all the love in the world and with all the expectations that what I did was right. Neither of us can second guess ourselves when it comes to these wonderful beings. We can do the very best we can, love them (and I assure you Dixie was loved as much as any cat who ever set paw on this earth), and grieve for them. Stop beating yourself up. Stay with this group though. You will learn so much and you may make different decisions later. On Dec 28, 2008, at 6:18 PM, amanda wrote: Hi all, I'm Amanda I live in Japan, I don't know if I was a member here before or not, I keep going from group to group, but I need advice please. I just lost last week my beloved cat he was minus 4 months almost 7 years old! He was diagnosed when he was about 1 1/2 years old along with his sister. He also had a heart murmur that developed into a full heart problem when he was 3 years old. Besides taking the interferon when first had FeLV he never took any other medications, he was treated holistically and was on a raw diet, he would have cat food as a treat. He was very well sometimes had diarrea if ate too many bugs outside or ate a rat! He was an outside cat, but since just over 2 years ago I decided to have him on a harness and kept him inside as one of our cats got into a fight and had a heart attack ! He was healthy even. My cat (Sorry his name was Silver chan), at first cried to go outside, I had an outside cage for him too, and he soon ajusted to life on the leash, I'd take him for many walks aday as I could. Sometimes we'd be attacked by the neighbours tom cat (my cats are all neutered) and twice my cat got stressed out and bit me instead as a result! But other wise he was good natured. Since last fall 2007, I noticed that he didn't put on weight on, I even forgot about that it could be related to having FeLV , I thought maybe because he's on the leash and can't catch prey much now, sometimes he still did! Those days I was spoiling him with extra cat food with added rice, my husbands suggestion, I thought it was o.k since he did have abit of rice maybe once a week with fish, but he soon started getting stomach aches, so I stopped it, but would still sometimes give a teaspoon of cat food as a treat, mostly I'd try natural ones with no or low salt. I tried to keep him as stress free as possible knowing he had a heart problem. He was also on DMG, CoQ10, natto, and probiotics, for his heart. This year suddenly his voice changed abit, so off to the vets and they thought it maybe stress related, though I had gave him some chicken cat food that I never gave before, so I stopped that and soon his voice became normal again, that time was May and we had all the tests and x rays, and nothing was found. During the summer sometimes he would vomit and he always ate grass and maybe more lately, once or twice he vomitted a little blood, I thought he just had a delicate stomach, so took care not to give him too much food, ( he ate 3 small meals aday) He always had some stress from stray cats passing on garden /land, taht May he growled at one, so not sure if it was related. Anyway we adopted 3 more cats this summer, he's very good with other cats, but he would get annoyed if they followed us on our walks, but we soon left them and went alone which he loved but he didn't mind sharing the house with them. Well just over 3 weeks ago I noticed him breathing fast, I thought his heart had worsened but it was lymphoma cancer in his chest and fluid arround his lungs, we tried chemo but made him worst and he lost alot of weight, so he was just made comfortable for the last weeks, he died on the 22nd. Of course I'm going through the self blame phrase, I wish I hadn't given him cat food as snacks! and many other things, I have anorther cat who has it now, he had interferon and is now better and is on a raw diet and lactoferrin and digestive enzymes, is there anything else I can do for him? And do you think my cat Silver chan could have lived longer? I mean when he first lost weight last year, maybe he should have had interferon again? I'm sure it was all FeLV related but what could I or should I have done? I really thought he didn't have FeLV anymore, and was just concerned about his heart! Please also tell me your stories, what age did your cats live to , what treatments, diet ect? I really don't want to make any more mistakes, I feel like I killed my cat giving him cat food that may have caused him to go downhill, or . I really don't know, but some people say living to be almost 7 with FeLV isn't so bad,
Re: [Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat, please advise, (long)
I'm so sorry that you lost Silver chan. I lost my Romeo to lymphoma in much the same way not too long ago. It just seems to take them so fast--one day Romeo seemed fine and within two weeks he died. I don't think giving him the cat food 'treats' contributed to his developing lymphoma--I understand that FELV cats are more susceptible to this type of cancer and its one of those conditions we all dread in our positives. It sure sounds like Silver chan had a wonderful life and you shouldn't feel that there was anything you could have done. You did the very best for him--he knew it, I'm sure--and he lived a full happy life. That's what matters most... Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of amanda Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat, please advise, (long) Hi all, I'm Amanda I live in Japan, I don't know if I was a member here before or not, I keep going from group to group, but I need advice please. I just lost last week my beloved cat he was minus 4 months almost 7 years old! He was diagnosed when he was about 1 1/2 years old along with his sister. He also had a heart murmur that developed into a full heart problem when he was 3 years old. Besides taking the interferon when first had FeLV he never took any other medications, he was treated holistically and was on a raw diet, he would have cat food as a treat. He was very well sometimes had diarrea if ate too many bugs outside or ate a rat! He was an outside cat, but since just over 2 years ago I decided to have him on a harness and kept him inside as one of our cats got into a fight and had a heart attack ! He was healthy even. My cat (Sorry his name was Silver chan), at first cried to go outside, I had an outside cage for him too, and he soon ajusted to life on the leash, I'd take him for many walks aday as I could. Sometimes we'd be attacked by the neighbours tom cat (my cats are all neutered) and twice my cat got stressed out and bit me instead as a result! But other wise he was good natured. Since last fall 2007, I noticed that he didn't put on weight on, I even forgot about that it could be related to having FeLV , I thought maybe because he's on the leash and can't catch prey much now, sometimes he still did! Those days I was spoiling him with extra cat food with added rice, my husbands suggestion, I thought it was o.k since he did have abit of rice maybe once a week with fish, but he soon started getting stomach aches, so I stopped it, but would still sometimes give a teaspoon of cat food as a treat, mostly I'd try natural ones with no or low salt. I tried to keep him as stress free as possible knowing he had a heart problem. He was also on DMG, CoQ10, natto, and probiotics, for his heart. This year suddenly his voice changed abit, so off to the vets and they thought it maybe stress related, though I had gave him some chicken cat food that I never gave before, so I stopped that and soon his voice became normal again, that time was May and we had all the tests and x rays, and nothing was found. During the summer sometimes he would vomit and he always ate grass and maybe more lately, once or twice he vomitted a little blood, I thought he just had a delicate stomach, so took care not to give him too much food, ( he ate 3 small meals aday) He always had some stress from stray cats passing on garden /land, taht May he growled at one, so not sure if it was related. Anyway we adopted 3 more cats this summer, he's very good with other cats, but he would get annoyed if they followed us on our walks, but we soon left them and went alone which he loved but he didn't mind sharing the house with them. Well just over 3 weeks ago I noticed him breathing fast, I thought his heart had worsened but it was lymphoma cancer in his chest and fluid arround his lungs, we tried chemo but made him worst and he lost alot of weight, so he was just made comfortable for the last weeks, he died on the 22nd. Of course I'm going through the self blame phrase, I wish I hadn't given him cat food as snacks! and many other things, I have anorther cat who has it now, he had interferon and is now better and is on a raw diet and lactoferrin and digestive enzymes, is there anything else I can do for him? And do you think my cat Silver chan could have lived longer? I mean when he first lost weight last year, maybe he should have had interferon again? I'm sure it was all FeLV related but what could I or should I have done? I really thought he didn't have FeLV anymore, and was just concerned about his heart! Please also tell me your stories, what age did your cats live to , what treatments, diet ect? I really don't want to make any more mistakes, I feel like I killed my cat giving him cat food that may have caused him to go
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Amanda, I was saddened to read that your cat has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. I'm new to caring for FeLV+ kitties. The oldest of my 6 positive kitties are just a yr old. I really don't think feeding some canned cat food as a treat caused his death. Many of us feed canned cat food. All we can do is feed the best diet the cat will eat, keep their lives as stress free as possible and love them with all our hearts. You did all of this. He couldn't have asked for a more loving home. Sharyl Sissy, Rocket, Mattie, CJ, Houdini, and Bright Eyes --- On Sun, 12/28/08, amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote: From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp Subject: [Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat, please advise, (long) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 7:18 PM Hi all, I'm Amanda I live in Japan, I don't know if I was a member here before or not, I keep going from group to group, but I need advice please. I just lost last week my beloved cat he was minus 4 months almost 7 years old! He was diagnosed when he was about 1 1/2 years old along with his sister. He also had a heart murmur that developed into a full heart problem when he was 3 years old. Besides taking the interferon when first had FeLV he never took any other medications, he was treated holistically and was on a raw diet, he would have cat food as a treat. He was very well sometimes had diarrea if ate too many bugs outside or ate a rat! He was an outside cat, but since just over 2 years ago I decided to have him on a harness and kept him inside as one of our cats got into a fight and had a heart attack ! He was healthy even. My cat (Sorry his name was Silver chan), at first cried to go outside, I had an outside cage for him too, and he soon ajusted to life on the leash, I'd take him for many walks aday as I could. Sometimes we'd be attacked by the neighbours tom cat (my cats are all neutered) and twice my cat got stressed out and bit me instead as a result! But other wise he was good natured. Since last fall 2007, I noticed that he didn't put on weight on, I even forgot about that it could be related to having FeLV , I thought maybe because he's on the leash and can't catch prey much now, sometimes he still did! Those days I was spoiling him with extra cat food with added rice, my husbands suggestion, I thought it was o.k since he did have abit of rice maybe once a week with fish, but he soon started getting stomach aches, so I stopped it, but would still sometimes give a teaspoon of cat food as a treat, mostly I'd try natural ones with no or low salt. I tried to keep him as stress free as possible knowing he had a heart problem. He was also on DMG, CoQ10, natto, and probiotics, for his heart. This year suddenly his voice changed abit, so off to the vets and they thought it maybe stress related, though I had gave him some chicken cat food that I never gave before, so I stopped that and soon his voice became normal again, that time was May and we had all the tests and x rays, and nothing was found. During the summer sometimes he would vomit and he always ate grass and maybe more lately, once or twice he vomitted a little blood, I thought he just had a delicate stomach, so took care not to give him too much food, ( he ate 3 small meals aday) He always had some stress from stray cats passing on garden /land, taht May he growled at one, so not sure if it was related. Anyway we adopted 3 more cats this summer, he's very good with other cats, but he would get annoyed if they followed us on our walks, but we soon left them and went alone which he loved but he didn't mind sharing the house with them. Well just over 3 weeks ago I noticed him breathing fast, I thought his heart had worsened but it was lymphoma cancer in his chest and fluid arround his lungs, we tried chemo but made him worst and he lost alot of weight, so he was just made comfortable for the last weeks, he died on the 22nd. Of course I'm going through the self blame phrase, I wish I hadn't given him cat food as snacks! and many other things, I have anorther cat who has it now, he had interferon and is now better and is on a raw diet and lactoferrin and digestive enzymes, is there anything else I can do for him? And do you think my cat Silver chan could have lived longer? I mean when he first lost weight last year, maybe he should have had interferon again? I'm sure it was all FeLV related but what could I or should I have done? I really thought he didn't have FeLV anymore, and was just concerned about his heart! Please also tell me your stories, what age did your cats live to , what treatments, diet ect? I really don't want to make any more mistakes, I feel like I killed my cat giving him cat food that may have caused him to go downhill, or . I really don't know, but some people say living to be almost 7 with FeLV isn't so bad, his sister died age 3. Please advice
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Amanda -- Chris is absolutely right. I don't think there is anything you can do to prevent lymphoma. You can beef up the cat's system so it can withstand a lot of things like colds and other sicknesses that aren't harmful to healthy cats but can be dangerous to FeLV+'s, but they ARE very susceptible to lymphoma and if there were a way to prevent that through food or care, humans would be doing it too! Seven is a pretty good age for Silver chan to have lived, but of course he was way too young to die (and of course we all know that ANY age is way too young when you love them so much). It sounds like you did a great job taking care of him, and I certainly don't think that your cat food treats had anything at all to do with him getting sick. Many of our kitties have cat food as their regular diet (though of course better ones are recommended) and raw or natural meat as a treat. As for your other FeLV+ kitty, of course the recommendations are good food, as little stress as possible, lots of love. You can add certain vitamins and supplements, like natural L-lysine, to the food, to keep their resistance to illnesses strong, and you can use flower essences like Bach Rescue Remedy in their water to help the stress level. I'm sure there will be other good suggestions coming along as well. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat,please advise, (long) I'm so sorry that you lost Silver chan. I lost my Romeo to lymphoma in much the same way not too long ago. It just seems to take them so fast--one day Romeo seemed fine and within two weeks he died. I don't think giving him the cat food 'treats' contributed to his developing lymphoma--I understand that FELV cats are more susceptible to this type of cancer and its one of those conditions we all dread in our positives. It sure sounds like Silver chan had a wonderful life and you shouldn't feel that there was anything you could have done. You did the very best for him--he knew it, I'm sure--and he lived a full happy life. That's what matters most... Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of amanda Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat, please advise, (long) Hi all, I'm Amanda I live in Japan, I don't know if I was a member here before or not, I keep going from group to group, but I need advice please. I just lost last week my beloved cat he was minus 4 months almost 7 years old! He was diagnosed when he was about 1 1/2 years old along with his sister. He also had a heart murmur that developed into a full heart problem when he was 3 years old. Besides taking the interferon when first had FeLV he never took any other medications, he was treated holistically and was on a raw diet, he would have cat food as a treat. He was very well sometimes had diarrea if ate too many bugs outside or ate a rat! He was an outside cat, but since just over 2 years ago I decided to have him on a harness and kept him inside as one of our cats got into a fight and had a heart attack ! He was healthy even. My cat (Sorry his name was Silver chan), at first cried to go outside, I had an outside cage for him too, and he soon ajusted to life on the leash, I'd take him for many walks aday as I could. Sometimes we'd be attacked by the neighbours tom cat (my cats are all neutered) and twice my cat got stressed out and bit me instead as a result! But other wise he was good natured. Since last fall 2007, I noticed that he didn't put on weight on, I even forgot about that it could be related to having FeLV , I thought maybe because he's on the leash and can't catch prey much now, sometimes he still did! Those days I was spoiling him with extra cat food with added rice, my husbands suggestion, I thought it was o.k since he did have abit of rice maybe once a week with fish, but he soon started getting stomach aches, so I stopped it, but would still sometimes give a teaspoon of cat food as a treat, mostly I'd try natural ones with no or low salt. I tried to keep him as stress free as possible knowing he had a heart problem. He was also on DMG, CoQ10, natto, and probiotics, for his heart. This year suddenly his voice changed abit, so off to the vets and they thought it maybe stress related, though I had gave him some chicken cat food that I never gave before, so I stopped that and soon his voice became normal again, that time was May and we had all the tests and x rays, and nothing was found. During the summer sometimes he would vomit and he always ate grass and maybe more lately, once or twice he vomitted a little blood, I thought he just had a delicate
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Hello Amanda i don't think you could have done anything more for Chan. i had lymphoma and it is a fast acting, vicious disease. even human doctors don't know much about it. when i got it in 2000, there were only 2 known chemos that worked sometimes. i went thru both of them and when they did not work, was told 3 - 4 months. Gymzar was dscovered by accident and they tried that. all it did was kill my red blood cells. a year later i went into spontaneous remission. i credit prayer and vitmins/mineral for that. i have been in remission for 5 years now and am still going strong. try prayer, it does work. dorlis amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote: Hi all, I'm Amanda I live in Japan, I don't know if I was a member here before or not, I keep going from group to group, but I need advice please. I just lost last week my beloved cat he was minus 4 months almost 7 years old! He was diagnosed when he was about 1 1/2 years old along with his sister. He also had a heart murmur that developed into a full heart problem when he was 3 years old. Besides taking the interferon when first had FeLV he never took any other medications, he was treated holistically and was on a raw diet, he would have cat food as a treat. He was very well sometimes had diarrea if ate too many bugs outside or ate a rat! He was an outside cat, but since just over 2 years ago I decided to have him on a harness and kept him inside as one of our cats got into a fight and had a heart attack ! He was healthy even. My cat (Sorry his name was Silver chan), at first cried to go outside, I had an outside cage for him too, and he soon ajusted to life on the leash, I'd take him for many walks aday as I could. Sometimes we'd be attacked by the neighbours tom cat (my cats are all neutered) and twice my cat got stressed out and bit me instead as a result! But other wise he was good natured. Since last fall 2007, I noticed that he didn't put on weight on, I even forgot about that it could be related to having FeLV , I thought maybe because he's on the leash and can't catch prey much now, sometimes he still did! Those days I was spoiling him with extra cat food with added rice, my husbands suggestion, I thought it was o.k since he did have abit of rice maybe once a week with fish, but he soon started getting stomach aches, so I stopped it, but would still sometimes give a teaspoon of cat food as a treat, mostly I'd try natural ones with no or low salt. I tried to keep him as stress free as possible knowing he had a heart problem. He was also on DMG, CoQ10, natto, and probiotics, for his heart. This year suddenly his voice changed abit, so off to the vets and they thought it maybe stress related, though I had gave him some chicken cat food that I never gave before, so I stopped that and soon his voice became normal again, that time was May and we had all the tests and x rays, and nothing was found. During the summer sometimes he would vomit and he always ate grass and maybe more lately, once or twice he vomitted a little blood, I thought he just had a delicate stomach, so took care not to give him too much food, ( he ate 3 small meals aday) He always had some stress from stray cats passing on garden /land, taht May he growled at one, so not sure if it was related. Anyway we adopted 3 more cats this summer, he's very good with other cats, but he would get annoyed if they followed us on our walks, but we soon left them and went alone which he loved but he didn't mind sharing the house with them. Well just over 3 weeks ago I noticed him breathing fast, I thought his heart had worsened but it was lymphoma cancer in his chest and fluid arround his lungs, we tried chemo but made him worst and he lost alot of weight, so he was just made comfortable for the last weeks, he died on the 22nd. Of course I'm going through the self blame phrase, I wish I hadn't given him cat food as snacks! and many other things, I have anorther cat who has it now, he had interferon and is now better and is on a raw diet and lactoferrin and digestive enzymes, is there anything else I can do for him? And do you think my cat Silver chan could have lived longer? I mean when he first lost weight last year, maybe he should have had interferon again? I'm sure it was all FeLV related but what could I or should I have done? I really thought he didn't have FeLV anymore, and was just concerned about his heart! Please also tell me your stories, what age did your cats live to , what treatments, diet ect? I really don't want to make any more mistakes, I feel like I killed my cat giving him cat food that may have caused him to go downhill, or . I really don't know, but some people say living to be almost 7 with FeLV isn't so bad, his sister died age 3. Please advice, I'm making myself sick from this self guilt!!! please advice and help me through this
