Hi, I am so sorry for you and your son. I have been rescuing Felv+ cats
for 12+yrs and they can go at any age. I have had some as young as 3mos
die in as short a time as 12hrs and I now have one that is 12yrs. old
and she still acts like a kitten. You gave this kitten love and you
wanted it. I
Dear Melissa:
You might want to consider asking Growler what she can tell you about her
puzzling condition. Just as we humans are able to tell our doctors what we are
feeling in our bodies, I have found it very helpful when faced with a medical
problem with one of my cats that is not
Dear Jill:
How is Gary doing? I'm a bit behind in respoding to e-messages. I had my 11
year old stepdaughter here over the holidays and didn't have much chance to
get to my computer. She was websurfing much of the time due to the beastly
weather.
Anything you can do to boost immune
Dear Jim and Rhonda:
How wise of you not to listen to that vet and accept an FeLV+ test result as
an automatic death sentence. You were right to question such a grim
recommendation...there IS much that can be done for FeLV cats.
There seems to remain quite a bit of confusion about the
Cherie -
I recently lost a health kitten overnight myself. Endora was a little older, but I came home from work one day - - she had been fire that morning when I left - - and I found she had passed away while I was at work.
In discussions with different people (on and off this list) I have heard
Hi Lora,
Happy to share! Yes, you use all the same standard diabetic testing supplies that people use: lancets, test strips, meter.
The site where I learned absolutely everything is:
www.petdiabetes.org
The have lots of info, recommendations on monitors (the one I use is not made anymore
Tonya
That is horrible this is why I love my cat over people.
The more people I meet at adoptions the more I know people are
nuts. The world has become very cruel and cold and they only look
at a fax fix people don't want to take the time to do what is right.
I hope that cat comes back and
Yes, I agree pics help. I have more pix of Caramel up than anyone else
right now.
And I hope your little rabbit feels better over the weekend. Kerry
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Everyone has beed tested recently, my concern is that it happened so fast and so consuming.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:13:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Snowball was only 6 months old and his parents were clean, the only stress aside from
Thank you for the kind words, I am planning on telling my son, he know Snowball was really sick, he saw him and all the blood, he also knows the vet came and picked him up, I am just hoping he gets used to not seeing him around and it will be easier. I am getting stonger, so Today or tomoorw will
Rachel,
Thank you for welcoming me, already this group has helped me and I have learned alot about FeLV and other diseases, that effect our feline friends.Rachel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie -
I recently lost a health kitten overnight myself. Endora was a little older, but I came home from
Hi Cherie,
I'm so sorry about Snowball; how terrible for you. How old was Snowball?
FeLV+ or not, I know of a few kittenswho have died suddenly and unexpectedly over the last year. Kittens have fragile immune systems and they look like such little dynamos that it's easy to think of them as
Julie,
I have tried to come to terms with the loss, but I am not sure if I can say for sure it was FeLV, I have looked and not found any similar cases to mine, I think that is odd.Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Cherie,
I'm so sorry about Snowball; how terrible for you. How old was
Hi Cherie!
I'm so sorry to hear of your loss of Snowball...it's so devastating to lose
them at such a young age...Unfortunately, this virus can be relentless at
times. I've only been dealing with FeLV for a few years, but I can tell you
that I lost one baby in a matter of days; he was
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Cherie, I'm so sorry to hear about your losing Snowball. I, and most of
us on the list, sadly, have lost a kitty to FeLV, so we really do know how
devastated you feel. I'm so glad that Snowball had you in his life, unfairly
short though it was,to care for him. I hope the good
yep, it's weird and that's the food that I've added to their mix.Smoky still has the fentanyl patch on, but he can reach it - he also figured out that if he curls up in the sink his skin moves so he can reach more of it bitter apple doesn't work on him and now he won't let either of us near
Thanks Sally! I will definitely look for Oli-vet (in
addition to the CoQ10 and L-Lysine she's getting).
I haven't been over to see Gary in a few days. My
boyfriend says she's doing okay, she's still eating as
much as normal and he's been putting some Nutri-Cal in
her food too (in case she does
I will check with her and see if Boston is going to be on her regular travel schedule - if it is and you don't come up with a closer option so the kitty wouldn't have such a long trip, then we will work it out![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes I could drive to Boston that is not a problem. That would
I hope your bunny's feeling better.
May I ask...dental surgery on a rabbit. ?...was the tooth growing backward or did it break off? I know cat dog food often has sugar in it...I wasn't aware that rabbit food did?
I'm curious.
(I'm not questioning your vetting the rabbit, I heard of hampster
I lost my cat pretty quickly too. He was 2 years old and had been tested
when I first got him. He tested negative and was vaccinated. Then 10 months
later, at the end of December 2002, I noticed that he was a bit quiet.
However, he ate well, was very cheerful and sociable. Then during the
Faye,
I feel the same way, the (5) that I have are all bouncing around but the closest one to Snowball, the one that would roll around with him and lick him and be licked by him, is my main concern, she is only 4 months and I am sick with worry, she was vacinated and she did test postive but,
Ya know, she's so young, she might even throw it off... Be great if
you could get her, Susan.
Gloria
I will check with her and see if Boston is going to be on her regular
travel schedule - if it is and you don't come up with a closer option
so the kitty wouldn't have such a long trip, then we
Thanks so much.
Cherie,
Did you mean your cat tested negative? Or tht he did test positive?
Pepsi and Magellan were 4 weeks old and Tigger (the infected cat) groomed
them for hours. I just knew they had no chance at all. Thus far, they have
not tested positive. The vet tested them every 90 days the first
I've emailed Traci Campbell and Tracey Owens both since they both travel - Traci made several trips to Boston last year - don't know what's up for 2005."Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ya know, she's so young, she might even throw it off... Be great if you could get her, Susan.GloriaI
In a message dated 1/7/2005 11:17:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Everyone
has beed tested recently, my concern is that it happened so fast and so
consuming.
If everyone has been tested recently..and ALL were negative..then no
one is sheding the virus...if his
In a message dated 1/7/2005 12:41:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(I'm not questioning your vetting the rabbit, I heard of hampster with
gallstones and had a guinea pig with strepthroatI'm just curious about the
dental.)
Ive had a Guinea pig
In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:24:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Cherie,Did you mean your cat tested negative? Or tht he did
test positive?
I was wondering about that too!!! If your other kitty tested
positive..then she gave it to Snowball...proablly
Lisaand
Faye,
I am sorry Candy tested negative not positive for the virus, but I am going to get her tested again soon, just to make sure it is not hiding, Candy is very depressed because her and Snowball were the closest. I will be getting all my furbabies test alot to make sure it this does not rear
I have racked my brain...I can not think of anywhere, unless one of my cats carries it.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/7/2005 11:17:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Everyone has beed tested recently, my concern is that it happened so fast and so consuming.
I am so sorry for the screw up I meant Candy did not test positve she is negative, my concern is they were so close that I hope she did not get infected.
Sorry about my verbiage, I guess I shoudl read before I send ;-))[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:24:07 P.M. Eastern
A sincere thank you to everyone for your wealth of knowledge on Pilgrim's care. We look at this little ball of energy and shudderto think of what "could have been" had we not chosen to research FeLV.
However, nothing is ever easy! We're finding this to be a complicated virus.After a
I know how it is to be where you are. It may be some comfort to you that my
cats were exposed at 4 weeks of age, constantly groomed by, shared food,
water and litter boxes with my infected cat for 6 weeks before he was
diagnosed. My oldest cat was exposed 8 months to the infected cat. It has
Unless the parents are positive but they were only tested when the virus was
hiding in the bone marrow or elsewhere.
From: Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: felvtalk@vlists.net
Subject: Re: FeLV
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Faye,
That is wonderful to hear, because I did get news that I do have 1 infected cat, but all have been vaccinated, Amber is so special and sweet I can not believe it, but so far that is the only one, I am going to keep getting my cats tested. Amber did come from a shelter and was very sickly 1
Apparently, there are more factors than simply exposure to the illness.
Most of these factors we probably have not figured out yet. Some of them
may be genetic. Those we cannot control.
I do recommend, as have many on this list, feeding a super premium food like
Eagle Pack, Innova,
Amber which is the one that came up positive, she was tested twice before and she was negative, so it must have been dormant or hidding somewhere.Faye Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unless the parents are positive but they were only tested when the virus was hiding in the bone marrow or
I was tossing around the idea to home cook all my cats food for them, and see if that may help.Faye Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apparently, there are more factors than simply exposure to the illness. Most of these factors we probably have not figured out yet. Some of them may be genetic. Those
How long was it before she tested positive?
From: Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A lot of people do that successfully. I am just not confident in my ability
to balance the stuff right. Knowing my luck, I'd kill them. LOL
From: Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: felvtalk@vlists.net
Subject: Re: FeLV
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:35:48 -0800
I brought Simon in for the Adriamycin this morning, his 5th chemo treatment
which he had to skip 3 days ago because his WBC was too low to get it. His WBC
was back up towards normal, but his PCV had dropped to 15 and, more importantly,
his bilirubin (liver values) were back up to 9. Normal
Dear Michelle,
The sickness and grief that I feel after reading your note are surely nothing to what you are feeling.
My heart breaks for Simon and for you.
I hope Simon will lie down with you quietly and pass on surrounded by peace and love.
Take care of yourself and know that you both are
I will put him on my prayer list. I am so sorry to read this. I just rescued a + and am praying daily for his health even there are no signs yet. My prayers to you also. It takes a special person.and that you are.
Teri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I brought Simon in for the Adriamycin
Michelle,
I am been reading Simon's posts and had so hoped that something would kick in. I am so sad that it looks like you will lose Simon. I know that for whatever time Simon has left that it will be full of gentle caring and love.
Joan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I brought Simon in for the
I'm so sorry, Michelle. You and Simon have my prayers. I have recently been thru a similar situation - not with a feleuk kitty but with dry FIP. At one point Orange Julius was moaning in pain - and it had come on fast. We sedated him and when he came out of the sedation he had about 4 pretty
Prayers coming for Simon, Michelle - I'm so sorry he's not perking
up. It's hard anyway you do it. I personally think that Adriamycin is
hard, but don't have any data to back it up - just seen it used. And when
you're very sick anyway... I think when they're at that stage of dying,
they can
I tested her when I got her, then again, 6 months later, (since we did not know where she came from) and then again when all this happened, so I just found out she was positive a few hours ago.Faye Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How long was it before she tested positive?From: Cherie A Gabbert
I am so sorry it's come to this. Euthanasia is a very difficult decision, but it helps to use some guidelines about the animal's quality of life. Are they eating? drinking? sleeping comfortably? playing? Are they "themselves"?If you get an answer of "no" for more than one, it should be considered
Sending prayers for you and Simon. I'm so sorry.
Barbara
Michelle,
I am very sorry to hear of Simon results. Keep up the hope
sometime it takes awhile for a miracle to happen.
My thoughts and prayers with you both.
Carla
Date sent: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:53:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Joan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
In a message dated 1/7/2005 12:47:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you pray, please pray for him to get some relief from the steroids and have at least a few more happy days, and then to go peacefully when he does go.
Thanks,
Michelle
Michelle,
I am praying and he
Cherie,
I'm so sorry about your little Snowball. I saw your
site and he was beautiful!
If it helps to know this at all, my cat died last
March and when they heard about it, my brother's 3
kids sent me a sympathy card (ages 7, 8, 12).
Although they didn't live with me, they knew and loved
Oh, Michelle...I'm so sorry to hear about Simon...I'm crying as I write this
because we went through much of the same thing with Pips...apparently, I still
haven't gotten over that... :(
I'm so happy to hear that you did have 3 more good weeks with Simon due to the
Chemo...Pips never made it
Jill,
Thank you, I can not say how grateful I am for all of the support and kind words, yes he was and will always be beautiful, I just now need to etch the good pictures and moments in my mind instead of the bad ones, I seem to only see him lying in his carrier bleeding, leaving me forever...ok
Michelle,
I am so so sorry to hear this! I was hoping so much
that you and Simon could beat this nasty thing.
I just want to second the pain killer idea - when I
took Semuta home after his lymphoma diagnosis (no
chance for chemo - anemia and multiple organ
involvement, bleeding tumor in his
Michelle,
I'm so sorry you and Simon are suffering. I'm so sick at heart for you
guys. There just isn't anything anyone can say to relieve you at a time
like this. I'm praying that he is relieved of his pain and is able to
let you know how much he appreciates how hard you've tried to keep
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Dear Michelle
You and Simon have been through so much
together,I am so, so sorry that he has become so ill again. It is so sad
for him that he is so unwell, and so devastating for you. I know you will know
if and when it is time to let him go. And I wish you all the strength
I am horribly sorry about Simon. You really went to bat for that baby and
did all you can. My prayers are with you both.
From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: felvtalk@vlists.net
Subject: RE: Simon stopping chemo and does not have long
Date: Fri, 7 Jan
Hi Barb,
What wonderful news that Smoky is improving! Hooray! The little
stinker, now that he feels better, he's giving you a hard time. I would
try calling him in a way he's not used to. A different kind of coo
perhaps. Toss him something irresistible, a small piece of chicken
maybe,
Well, the vet said that as long as he is asymptomatic, that it was OK to give him a break on the pilling. I am going to pick up a few doses of the oral pain med (buprenex) just in case he gets the patch off this weekend. He's just too smart - I've tried the treat lure trick before and it doesn't
Hi Cherie,
I'm very sorry to hear about your Snowball. I'm sure Candy is grieving
for her lost friend. I had brought a feral kitten, Gypsy, (about 4 mos
old at the time) into my home before I knew that the other kittens in my
care (also 4 mos at the time) were positive. After an initial
Dear Kerry:
While I don't try to give so many supplements all at the same time (divide
them up and give half one day, half the next with some kind of immunosupport
every day -- right now it is either Transfer Factor or Oli-Vet. I've not had
trouble with my positives eating everything put in
Michelle,
I'm so sorry to hear this. I know how hard you tried to help
him.
May he pass peacefully.
Hugs to you,
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
Furkid Photos!
Either the steroids or your thoughts and prayers are kicking in, because
when I just went in the bedroom to syringe feed Simon he was eating dry food! He
did not eat that much by the looks of the bowl, but he was munching away and
then climbed on me while I opened a new box, ate a few
Dear Michelle,
Simon is deeply ensconced in my thoughts and prayers; what wonderful news!
He's our miracle boy! Come on, Simon!
Love, Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Either the steroids or your thoughts and prayers are kicking in, because when I just went in the bedroom to syringe feed
Simon is telling you that he loves you and appreciates what you've done
to help him!
You don't have to believe in God to believe in prayer. I don't actually
believe in God as an entity separate from us. I use the word God,
because it's easier. I believe in the interconnectedness of all
Nina, you said it perfectly!!!Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simon is telling you that he loves you and appreciates what you've done to help him!You don't have to believe in God to believe in prayer. I don't actually believe in "God" as an entity separate from us. I use the word God, because it's
I love that you asked... he is feeling better already he isn't eating yet, but
is interested in his syringe feeding and he is not longer hypothermic si I'm
thrilled.
In regards to rabbit teeth problems... rabbits teeth constantlyt grow
throughout their life. so if they're not lined up
Congrats on your probably negative, Talk about a complicated virus, I hope the
next test is negative without a doubt. We had six abandoned kittens at my
hospital and 3 were negative, 3 positive- figure that one out.. it gets worse
the first day only one was positive, 3 days later a 2nd on
YAY!!! I'm so glad he is eating even though it's only a few nibbles it's better than nothing. Keep up the good work Simon. We are behind you! Keep it coming on the food...
Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted
I truly believe everyone's prayers helped Jelly Roll and me have some good
days. so glad you have this time for some joy.
Barbara
I am so happy for you hang on to those good thoughts and cherish every good
moment. I am also very happy he is home with you. Eat your heart out SIMON!!!
I am so sorry to hear that chemo did not help simon beat this awful illness. I
always feel that spending some one on one quiet time without and meds or
doctors allows me to really see what's going on in my fur kids heads when the
time is nearing. We sit just the 2 of us and talk and I pet
That is so awesome!!! Go Simon!![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Either the steroids or your thoughts and prayers are kicking in, because when I just went in the bedroom to syringe feed Simon he was eating dry food! He did not eat that much by the looks of the bowl, but he was munching away and then
well, he doesn't want to come out from under the bed, and that's actually OK, because there isn't enough room under there for him to mess with the patch.There also isn't enough room for Bandit to be such a jerk. I put his breakfast (he still hadn't eaten) just under the bed and locked Bandit out
Michelle,
I was so depressed when I read your email about Simon not eating, he
was doing so good, I'm praying this is a turning point for him and he
will start responding and make a stron comeback. Thinking tons of
positive thoughts and imagining him eating until it hurts (from being
full
Hi Lora:
I just wanted to say "Amen" to everything Julie stated. I've been home-testing blood glucose for over 8 years. Corky was the first diagnosed and I started testing him myself when I "accidentally" discovered his glucose was only 35 and it was time for his next insulin shot. (Happened
In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:46:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
unless
one of my cats carries it.
If they carried it and were SHEDDING the virus...that is the only way
he could have been infected..if they are shedding the virus...they would show a
positive on
In a message dated 1/7/2005 2:40:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On whether we had the capacity to set up permanent quarters for FeLV
cats: not really. It's been very inconvenient and cumbersome to
close off the dining room and sunroom for Pilgrim. We had to
In a message dated 1/7/2005 3:35:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Amber
which is the one that came up positive, she was tested twice before and she
was negative, so it must have been dormant or hidding
somewhere.
So one of them DID come up psoitive...then that
Oh Michelle,
I am so sorry to hear about Simon..I will definantly pray for hispoor
guy You adn him have fought so hard
Lisaand
fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar
Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired
dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr
That is wonderful, Michelle, I am so happy for you, I do hope and pray that it lasts and gets better from here on out.
My thoughts and prayers are with you
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Either the steroids or your thoughts and prayers are kicking in, because when I just went in the bedroom
Lisa,
I love my vet do not get me wrong, but what I have learned over the past two days on this chat group far surpasses anything she has shared with me. In retrospect I wish I was talking to you guys before all this happened maybe I could have been more prepared. Also how can I not have guilt,
Well, I ened up telling my son tonight about Snowball. He cried and asked all sorts of questions, but I was as honest as I could be without breaking down myself. I slept with him, he did not want to be alone...Cherie
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