Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-13 Thread molveywda
I haven't read all the literature or watched the videos about his place but I was under the impression that it is set up to be a sanctuary not a rescue or shelter type situation. Most of his cats weren't pets but homeless cats that were living on the streets anyway. So his place is probably

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Lorrie
On 09-12, dot winkler wrote: Hysterical! L.O.L. I love it. The thing is, yes, some of them hunt and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At least they are eating the deer. But the thing is, the animal is so beautiful a creature to behold and so

[Felvtalk] Hunters etc

2011-09-13 Thread Lorrie
On 09-12, Natalie wrote: Welcome to my kinda club! Natalie, you and I see eye to eye about everything. You're my kinda person. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters factory farmers

2011-09-13 Thread Lorrie
On 09-12, MaiMaiPG wrote: Yupbut feel a lot better about hunters who kill for food than for factory farmers. Very true. Both kinds are detestable On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:07 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I would have to be very hungry before I could look

Re: [Felvtalk] Avery Please add to the CLS :*(

2011-09-13 Thread Lynda Wilson
So sorry for your loss of Avery. I bet you gave him such a great life. Lynda - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:42 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Avery Please add to the CLS :*( We lost our Sids kid Avery today...He was

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Lynda Wilson
Oh my gosh!! I could not put up with all that as long as you did! Is Dove meat really that good? I would not think there would be much meat on them. Dove hunting is still popular here in Texas and I don't like it. My bird feeder stays full all the time and I have two doves that come in the late

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Lynda Wilson
It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made

Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-13 Thread MaiMaiPG
That was my impression. From the cats' point of view, they are a lot better off--safer, fed, sheltered. I hope they are s/n. On Sep 13, 2011, at 4:36 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I haven't read all the literature or watched the videos about his place but I was under the impression that

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
My boss has 16 acres in a rural area. He's got a deer feeder there, and also has a place WAY up north, where baby bears sometimes come to raid the animal feeders he's got there. But he's also got like 97,000 guns of all types, and goes out gopher-hunting on his LawnBoy. I have to really zen out

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Natalie
I can't imagine much meat on them, and I doubt they're willing to cook them for an ounce of meat - it's only for sport, and the pigeons they shoot are trapped in cities and transported to the shooting sites. That's why they're in those traps for so long without food or water. Some even die in

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Natalie
Actually, the deer aren't responsible for overpopulation; they are managed for maximum sustained yield, for only one reason: to supply better hunting opportunities and revenues from hunting license fees. If they were left alone, their numbers would be normal, and just enough to fill the biological

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Lynda Wilson
Unfortunately, you are so right, Natalie :( - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters Actually, the deer aren't responsible for overpopulation; they are managed for

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Terri Brown
The have controlled deer hunts in Princeton, NJ (about 20 miles from where I live) every year. They claim it's for the safety of the residents. They also claim that we are overpopulated. Which is hogwash -- humans took over their natural habitat, so we kill them just to thin out the herd?

Re: [Felvtalk] Avery Please add to the CLS :*(

2011-09-13 Thread Edna Taylor
I am so sorry for your loss Sherry. Has anyone here dealt with Lymphoma in their kitties before? Miller is not Feluk+ but he was diagnosed with Lymphoma last week and I am not sure if the treatment and stress of catching him to medicate him and take him to the vet every day this week (hubby

Re: [Felvtalk] Avery Please add to the CLS :*(

2011-09-13 Thread Natalie
I've had several friends whose cats had lymphoma, and one dealing with it right now. Her cat, Jasper, is NOT FeLV+, and is on oral chemo (Leukeron) right now, 2X a week. It also depends on how much progressed it is. So sorry, I know how you feel - when all you do to a cat is give some kind of

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters/PLEASE EXPLAIN

2011-09-13 Thread dot winkler
Please explain what you mean by managed for maximum sustained yield.  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters Actually, the deer aren't responsible for

Re: [Felvtalk] Avery Please add to the CLS :*(

2011-09-13 Thread Edna Taylor
We bought the oral chemo pills and I spoke to the doctor about Miller and unfortunately, his is rather progressed and she said, on average, cats can live another 6 months on the oral meds and up to 2-3 years with the injectible chemo drugs. We are going to try the injections this week and see

Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

2011-09-13 Thread Natalie
I know what you mean.how would you feel about contacting a fantastic animal communicator in CA and see what Miller wants and would prefer? I just spoke to her about a renal failure cat that I want to make sure that it's the right time for euthanasia this afternoon. Maybe the trade-off to a

Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

2011-09-13 Thread Edna Taylor
Thanks, I will look into this :) I am sorry to hear about Fraidie :( Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:39:19 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miller I know what you mean…how would you feel about contacting a fantastic animal

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters/PLEASE EXPLAIN

2011-09-13 Thread Natalie
In laymen's terms: Maximum sustained yield (MSY) - is used in game management to ensure the highest growth rate by manipulating the natural 1:1 sex ratio. For example, by allowing the killing of mostly males, which are desirable as trophies over females because of their racks, it is calculated

Re: [Felvtalk] Avery Please add to the CLS :*(

2011-09-13 Thread Melinda Kerr
Every kitty is different and might require a different treatment. My Fuji has survived Mediastinal lymphoma for 14 months. At this point she shows no signs of slowing down any time soon:) We live in Japan, so the treatment is a bit less than traditional. However, my vet does use a series of

Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

2011-09-13 Thread MaiMaiPG
On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:43 PM, MaiMaiPG wrote: I do not know anything about the AC listed but I really believe in it. My guys have the opportunity to talk to ACs when there are important things going on. Luckily, I have some friends who do this. I encourage you to consider AC. You may

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Who is it the said you can tell a lot about a society by how people in it treat animals. Such disgusting cruelty. If there is reincarnation, guess who's going to be the prey in their next life? Maybe that way, they will learn a modicum of compassion.and slowly it will change. ~b. From:

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Marcia Baronda
I don't understand what is wrong with some of our fellow human beings. There is a total disregard for life. That just made me sick about the pigeons! Yea, big men aren't they? As bad as canned hunts which absolutely disgust me! Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with,