Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
to get them into the blanket is the problem. my blessed children seem to know what i am up to and are always 1 step ahead of me. dorlis Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: Just in case you haven't tried it, gently wrapping a cat in a nice, thick blanket helps. It may or may not calm the cat but it offers protection for the person. On Dec 10, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Debbie Bates wrote: OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only one who has had a hellion! But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
would that apply to all litters or just clay? i am using Fresh Results from Walmrt (have discontinuted at all stores in my area so have to drive 1 - 1/2 hrs to get it. they have dropped it in over 500 stores, but still have a lock on it so no other stores can sell under that name. Petsmart has it under another name at double the price) it is corn/pine, same texture as clay, but biodegradeable, weighs half as much as clay and my babies all love it. it also takes care of odor. Arm and Hammer has same formula, but finer texture and it tracks like crazy. Feline Pine is good on everything except texture, comes in pellets and my guys and girls don't like it. hurts their paws or so it seems, shake their feet when get out of box because it sticks between pads. dorlis Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: Eating litter is usually a sign of anemia, was he checked for that? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
LOL...yep, tried that, too.my scars-let me show you them Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:45:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Just in case you haven't tried it, gently wrapping a cat in a nice, thick blanket helps. It may or may not calm the cat but it offers protection for the person. On Dec 10, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Debbie Bates wrote: OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only one who has had a hellion! But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Noodles and ninja stars- that's hilarious! Made me LOL for real. I've had a few like that in my day. And a female like that now. God forbid she should ever need pilling. =8-O -Original Message- From: Diane Rosenfeldt [mailto:drosenfe...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Actually, doxy is available in liquid form and this is the form that should always be used with cats. If a doxy tablet gets stuck going down it will do serious damage to the esophagus. I haven't tried grinding a prednisone and putting it in food, but you might try that. I find cat food like salmon are pretty good at hiding some bad tasting meds, also a little karo or pancake syrup can help with bitter meds mixed in food. You are by far not the only person who has a problem pilling cats. I have one that the vet can always get the first pill into, but I have never gotten one down him yet by pilling, only by mixing with food. I have several cats that won't even look at a pill pocket when it doesn't have a pill in it, much less when it does. Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Yes, but don't get me started on thathow can you research with NO medical staff? Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: fs...@roadrunner.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:55:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about two years ago? Sue - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Crystal, please don't paint all sanctuaries with the same brush...I am sure there are good, loving places...it is my dream to have my own sanctuary one dayjust be sure to do your homework and I'm sure you would do just fine. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:22:03 -0800 From: crystal_pro...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Hmmm, maybe I will rethink the sanctuary idea. I don't want them to live a horrible life. Plus all the places I have contacted are full. I have an appointment to get the female fixed on the 22nd...a few days before that I have to start trying to catch her. I am getting a live trap. Shes friendly but you can't pick her up and put her in a cage. I am hoping they will keep her over the holiday to observe her and let her heal before I let her go back outside. I dont think its my place to make the choice to end her life...or the male cats life either. There are several people that care for them and feed them and its only those two cats that live there. I think I will just get them both fixed to prevent kittens and continue on with what we do. --- Frank Sue Koren Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:56:03 -0800 Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about two years ago? Sue - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? The vet can sell you a pill popper - a little device that helps some people get those pills down them. What I would do is to grind up the pills and mix with meat based human baby food and a little water. Then use a syringe, without a needle, to squirt this into the cat's mouth but not down his throat. If a cat isn't eating, he needs assisted feeding until you see if the medicines are going to make a difference. When I am syringe feeding a non-eating cat, I give them a syringe of food, a syringe of water or pedialyte, a blob of nutrical that I try to wipe off my finger onto the upper palate of the cat so it is harder to spit out, and cycle around that way until the cat has no more patience for the proceedure. For a grown cat of any size, I would aim to get at the very minimum, one jar of baby food in him per day. Two jars would be much better. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have had amazing success with Pill Pockets Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:53:23 -0600 From: bugrahanyal...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have found that several of my cats who won't eat the pill pockets, will eat a pill inside another soft-type treat like Whisker Lickins or hairball treats. The Whisker Lickins are more crumbly than PP and sometimes you need to use more than one but mine seem to like the flavor more than PP.. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: I have had amazing success with Pill Pockets Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:53:23 -0600 From: bugrahanyal...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Thank-you! I will try this! Bugra On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:27 AM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote: Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? The vet can sell you a pill popper - a little device that helps some people get those pills down them. What I would do is to grind up the pills and mix with meat based human baby food and a little water. Then use a syringe, without a needle, to squirt this into the cat's mouth but not down his throat. If a cat isn't eating, he needs assisted feeding until you see if the medicines are going to make a difference. When I am syringe feeding a non-eating cat, I give them a syringe of food, a syringe of water or pedialyte, a blob of nutrical that I try to wipe off my finger onto the upper palate of the cat so it is harder to spit out, and cycle around that way until the cat has no more patience for the proceedure. For a grown cat of any size, I would aim to get at the very minimum, one jar of baby food in him per day. Two jars would be much better. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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or a softened piece of cheese! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:40:55 -0500 From: furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I have found that several of my cats who won't eat the pill pockets, will eat a pill inside another soft-type treat like Whisker Lickins or hairball treats. The Whisker Lickins are more crumbly than PP and sometimes you need to use more than one but mine seem to like the flavor more than PP.. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: I have had amazing success with Pill Pockets Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:53:23 -0600 From: bugrahanyal...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live Hotmail: Your friends can get your Facebook updates, right from Hotmail®. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_4:092009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Crystal, if it is just those two cats in the colony then fixing and returning them is a good option. It sounds like they are well fed. I have used a large carrier for trapping. I tie a strong string to the door, place food inside and pull the door shut when they go in to eat. You would want to practice at home 1st. I put a small piece of wood under the front so the grass doesn't prevent the door from pulling shut. I use warm chicken (no bones or skin) and leave a trail to the carrier. You might want to do this for a few days before you want to trap them to get them used to eating the chicken and following it into the carrier. Good Luck Sharyl --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 7:22 PM Hmmm, maybe I will rethink the sanctuary idea. I don't want them to live a horrible life. Plus all the places I have contacted are full. I have an appointment to get the female fixed on the 22nd...a few days before that I have to start trying to catch her. I am getting a live trap. Shes friendly but you can't pick her up and put her in a cage. I am hoping they will keep her over the holiday to observe her and let her heal before I let her go back outside. I dont think its my place to make the choice to end her life...or the male cats life either. There are several people that care for them and feed them and its only those two cats that live there. I think I will just get them both fixed to prevent kittens and continue on with what we do. --- Frank Sue Koren Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:56:03 -0800 Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about two years ago? Sue - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Thankfully she is safe now. Bless you for saving her a second time. Sharyl --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 4:53 PM Yes, it was. I was totally prepared to give this guy the benefit of the doubt at first..you know, local politics and alllbut it resembled a concentration camp far more than anything that could be called sanctuaryI'm still having nightmares. My little girl came home with a respiratory infection, injured eye and significant weight loss from when she left my care less than 6 weeks ago. There were many, many more who needed to be on meds...but every cat there had supposedly been vetted by the 5 rescue vets that descended on the place. Even the friendly cats were clearly traumatized stillmy heart just breaks. I don't know what in the world will become of Portia nowbut she is safe, warm and loved...I will work very hard to get her to where she lets me handle herI am already making progressand there is hope. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Yes, but you can't imagine the guilt I feel for not being able to take more with me... Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:27:17 -0800 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Thankfully she is safe now. Bless you for saving her a second time. Sharyl _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Eating litter is usually a sign of anemia, was he checked for that? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
GET A NEW VET! an informed vet will give you options. mine did and my 2 positive girls are doing just fine. just keep anyone who is negative vacinnated, give them love, good food and keep stress low. Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
lost my first response. Harley and Dee helped me. they have discovered the curser on the screen and loe t o help mother type. hang in there and be patient. i hve found that it takes anywhere from 6 - 8 months to socialize a feral much less one that has sufferred any trauma. just give her lots of love. Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, it was. I was totally prepared to give this guy the benefit of the doubt at first..you know, local politics and alllbut it resembled a concentration camp far more than anything that could be called sanctuaryI'm still having nightmares. My little girl came home with a respiratory infection, injured eye and significant weight loss from when she left my care less than 6 weeks ago. There were many, many more who needed to be on meds...but every cat there had supposedly been vetted by the 5 rescue vets that descended on the place. Even the friendly cats were clearly traumatized stillmy heart just breaks. I don't know what in the world will become of Portia nowbut she is safe, warm and loved...I will work very hard to get her to where she lets me handle herI am already making progressand there is hope. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:46:25 -0500 From: furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Was that 10th Life? Ok if you wish not to answer, of course. Thank you for going after your former foster! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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why did they take on so many cats if they were not capable of caring for them? are they hoarders? if i could, i would take in every stray/feral cat and dog in my county, but i know i cannt give them the attention and afford food and vet bills, so i stick to my limit of 8. it was 6, but Harley and Dee were going to animal control if i did not take them in. that means they would be shot or worse, so of course, i took them. my buddy fro school calls me sucker. i intended to foster them until the vet helped me find a home for them, tried not to name them. oh well, they do provide a lot of intertainment. dorlis Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for going back and getting her. For anyone reading, I know as if anyone here has room, but fyi in hopes of spreading the word, there are still I believe around 200 cats needing to be placed, and they can be viewed on Petfinder, City of Labella Animal Contral...there are ferals needing safe barn homes/relocation, and adoptable cats, even declawed cats from what I understand. http://www.petfinder.com/shelterSearch/shelterSearch.cgi?offset=25limit=25tmpl=0shelterid=FL708sort=status=preview=1 2009/12/9 Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com Yepand you can't imagine how difficult it was...do you know how much all black cats look alike?? But she was so small and floofy and scared that I knew her the moment I laid eyes on herthank goodness the vet accidentally microchipped her when she was spayed. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:51:49 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Debbie, did you find your cat? What a miracle if you did. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral
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that sounds like a good idea, no more kittens and someone to feed and watch over them. Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmmm, maybe I will rethink the sanctuary idea. I don't want them to live a horrible life. Plus all the places I have contacted are full. I have an appointment to get the female fixed on the 22nd...a few days before that I have to start trying to catch her. I am getting a live trap. Shes friendly but you can't pick her up and put her in a cage. I am hoping they will keep her over the holiday to observe her and let her heal before I let her go back outside. I dont think its my place to make the choice to end her life...or the male cats life either. There are several people that care for them and feed them and its only those two cats that live there. I think I will just get them both fixed to prevent kittens and continue on with what we do. --- Frank Sue Koren Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:56:03 -0800 Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about two years ago? Sue - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
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Setting the live trap tonight to take them in to get fixed this coming week. Just found out the owner is moving his business from that building so there won't be anyone there to feed them daily. My husband and I go down there every couple days to feed them as well but we are probably moving 4 hours away. I am worried there won't be anyone to care for them anymore. They arent completely feral...they always let us pet them and one sits on our laps and runs to us as soon as he sees us. - Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_2:092009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
my Snuggles was healthy outside of infection, not stressed, but he did not like pills. my only solution was to take him to the vet every day. at home, he tried to kill me every time i gave him a pill. at the vet's he was an angel. savved me a few trips to the hospital for transfusions. dorlis Bugrahan Yalvac bugrahanyal...@gmail.com wrote: Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
join the group. dorlis Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, but you can't imagine the guilt I feel for not being able to take more with me... Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:27:17 -0800 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Thankfully she is safe now. Bless you for saving her a second time. Sharyl _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
If they can be handled, they can be adopted...they are NOT feral. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:27:36 -0800 From: crystal_pro...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Setting the live trap tonight to take them in to get fixed this coming week. Just found out the owner is moving his business from that building so there won't be anyone there to feed them daily. My husband and I go down there every couple days to feed them as well but we are probably moving 4 hours away. I am worried there won't be anyone to care for them anymore. They arent completely feral...they always let us pet them and one sits on our laps and runs to us as soon as he sees us. - Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman
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Oh okay. Yes, they like us to pet them, just not picked up. I have also contacted a couple FeLV+ in PA and NJ..one said they were full...waiting on some others responses. I will drive up to 5 hours away if I have too for a good home for them...sooner the better because I am 31 weeks pregnant. - Original Message From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 6:51:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries If they can be handled, they can be adopted...they are NOT feral. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:27:36 -0800 From: crystal_pro...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Setting the live trap tonight to take them in to get fixed this coming week. Just found out the owner is moving his business from that building so there won't be anyone there to feed them daily. My husband and I go down there every couple days to feed them as well but we are probably moving 4 hours away. I am worried there won't be anyone to care for them anymore. They arent completely feral...they always let us pet them and one sits on our laps and runs to us as soon as he sees us. - Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you
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OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only one who has had a hellion! But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Funny I said the same thing when my sweet Albert was dx with severe periodontal disease, advanced CRF, went into CHF and was dx with severe HCM all within 30 days. Thank goodness it wasn't his sister Pequita. She'd never tolerate getting sub q fluids let alone all the pills. Of course we immediately took her in for a senior wellness check and she was dx with stage 1 CRF. She has been getting fluids for 2 yrs now and is a little angel. Pills are another issue. I have yet to successfully pill her. She either gets liquid meds or I crush them and put them in meat baby food. They do surprise you once in a while. She just turned 17 and still isn't a lap kitty. Does like to lay on my feet. Sharyl --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 6:37 PM We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Just in case you haven't tried it, gently wrapping a cat in a nice, thick blanket helps. It may or may not calm the cat but it offers protection for the person. On Dec 10, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Debbie Bates wrote: OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only one who has had a hellion! But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Tribble has been a real learning experience, and there have been many times we've thought how much easier it would be for the other cats if he weren't in the mix, because he's often an aggressive little bully. But we would no sooner part with him than our own noses, and once you understand him he can be endearing (as long as you don't look away and miss the nanosecond when your skritches become annoying...) Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only one who has had a hellion! But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
We do this, but invariably Luc manages to wiggle, Houdini-like, free at least once during every feeding session. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Just in case you haven't tried it, gently wrapping a cat in a nice, thick blanket helps. It may or may not calm the cat but it offers protection for the person. On Dec 10, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Debbie Bates wrote: OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only one who has had a hellion! But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
[Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
This one is in Concord, Ohio - about 25 miles east of Cleveland. http://www.carolines-kids.org/ Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Was that 10th Life? Ok if you wish not to answer, of course. Thank you for going after your former foster! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Was that 10th Life Sanctuary in Florida? Did you get your kitty back? --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:43 PM I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Debbie, did you find your cat? What a miracle if you did. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/soc ial-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Yes, it was. I was totally prepared to give this guy the benefit of the doubt at first..you know, local politics and alllbut it resembled a concentration camp far more than anything that could be called sanctuaryI'm still having nightmares. My little girl came home with a respiratory infection, injured eye and significant weight loss from when she left my care less than 6 weeks ago. There were many, many more who needed to be on meds...but every cat there had supposedly been vetted by the 5 rescue vets that descended on the place. Even the friendly cats were clearly traumatized stillmy heart just breaks. I don't know what in the world will become of Portia nowbut she is safe, warm and loved...I will work very hard to get her to where she lets me handle herI am already making progressand there is hope. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:46:25 -0500 From: furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Was that 10th Life? Ok if you wish not to answer, of course. Thank you for going after your former foster! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Yepand you can't imagine how difficult it was...do you know how much all black cats look alike?? But she was so small and floofy and scared that I knew her the moment I laid eyes on herthank goodness the vet accidentally microchipped her when she was spayed. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:51:49 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Debbie, did you find your cat? What a miracle if you did. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/soc ial-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Thank you for going back and getting her. For anyone reading, I know as if anyone here has room, but fyi in hopes of spreading the word, there are still I believe around 200 cats needing to be placed, and they can be viewed on Petfinder, City of Labella Animal Contral...there are ferals needing safe barn homes/relocation, and adoptable cats, even declawed cats from what I understand. http://www.petfinder.com/shelterSearch/shelterSearch.cgi?offset=25limit=25tmpl=0shelterid=FL708sort=status=preview=1 2009/12/9 Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com Yepand you can't imagine how difficult it was...do you know how much all black cats look alike?? But she was so small and floofy and scared that I knew her the moment I laid eyes on herthank goodness the vet accidentally microchipped her when she was spayed. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:51:49 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Debbie, did you find your cat? What a miracle if you did. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
oops sorry typo, City of Labelle. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for going back and getting her. For anyone reading, I know as if anyone here has room, but fyi in hopes of spreading the word, there are still I believe around 200 cats needing to be placed, and they can be viewed on Petfinder, City of Labella Animal Contral...there are ferals needing safe barn homes/relocation, and adoptable cats, even declawed cats from what I understand. http://www.petfinder.com/shelterSearch/shelterSearch.cgi?offset=25limit=25tmpl=0shelterid=FL708sort=status=preview=1 2009/12/9 Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com Yepand you can't imagine how difficult it was...do you know how much all black cats look alike?? But she was so small and floofy and scared that I knew her the moment I laid eyes on herthank goodness the vet accidentally microchipped her when she was spayed. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:51:49 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Debbie, did you find your cat? What a miracle if you did. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about two years ago? Sue - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.100/2554 - Release Date: 12/09/09 07:32:00 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Hmmm, maybe I will rethink the sanctuary idea. I don't want them to live a horrible life. Plus all the places I have contacted are full. I have an appointment to get the female fixed on the 22nd...a few days before that I have to start trying to catch her. I am getting a live trap. Shes friendly but you can't pick her up and put her in a cage. I am hoping they will keep her over the holiday to observe her and let her heal before I let her go back outside. I dont think its my place to make the choice to end her life...or the male cats life either. There are several people that care for them and feed them and its only those two cats that live there. I think I will just get them both fixed to prevent kittens and continue on with what we do. --- Frank Sue Koren Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:56:03 -0800 Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about two years ago? Sue - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
My opinion: It is very important to have the vet keep females (especially) after being spayed. I had two wonderful little girls spayed by two different vets. Both girls died three days afterwards. They were not related and the only known common factor was that they were dumped and came to the pine thicket behind my Mom's (the source of lots of ferals and several now inside cats). Now, I tell the vet straight up that I will not pick a female up for at least four days after surgery. I don't care if it costs me extra cash...I can't handle a repeat. They died within a very few months of each other. Frankly, I would rather let a male stay a couple of days too. Releasing a cat who is not up to par into a colony is just not what I want to do..live, experience, learn. Further, I don't permit the vets to vaccinate against everything at the same time as surgery and I have been blessed to find vets who understand that the cats I bring in are stressed and not from the best environmentsthey don't need a lot of additional stressors. On Dec 9, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Crystal Proper wrote: Hmmm, maybe I will rethink the sanctuary idea. I don't want them to live a horrible life. Plus all the places I have contacted are full. I have an appointment to get the female fixed on the 22nd...a few days before that I have to start trying to catch her. I am getting a live trap. Shes friendly but you can't pick her up and put her in a cage. I am hoping they will keep her over the holiday to observe her and let her heal before I let her go back outside. I dont think its my place to make the choice to end her life...or the male cats life either. There are several people that care for them and feed them and its only those two cats that live there. I think I will just get them both fixed to prevent kittens and continue on with what we do. --- Frank Sue Koren Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:56:03 -0800 Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about two years ago? Sue - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
