Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread brennon
I must concur with Aaron. The fonts for Windows are hardly legible. --Brennon Bortz On 27 Jul 2005 at 17:45, Aaron Sherber wrote: Most disappointing so far, because there seems to be no good reason for it, is that the mixer and studio controls, which look so nice in the screen shots on the

Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread Rick Neal
I run XP on three computers at home and on the eight computers in my classroom for weeks, sometimes months at a time and have never experienced what you describe. I hope I never do. Rick Neal Carl Dershem wrote: Well, XP is NT based, with some alterations, but even out of the box I've

Re: [Finale] Helsinki font

2005-07-28 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
Rich Caldwell wrote: I've been lightly following this Sibelius font discussion, and felt I should chime in that a year or so ago I was playing around with the Opus font to get it to work in Finale (Mac) and got a threat from the Sibelius lurker in the MM Finale Forums. I gave up on the

Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread Simon Troup
I've been reading lots of stuff in the list about MakeMusic! totally missing the mark with this upgrade - and having tried out the Finale GPO implementation I've got to say I think this is one of the most significant releases for years. Simon Troup Digital Music Art

Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/27/2005 11:39 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: Well, Win98 is based on technology developed in the mid-90s (it's a minor upgrade to the original Win95, which was a major new version of Windows). Lots and lots of important things have been introduced to the NT versions of

[Finale] [TAN] OS Stability

2005-07-28 Thread Simon Troup
I have been using WinXP for 2 years and it has never bluescreened. It is the most stable OS I have ever used. Sorry, can we move this to [TAN] OS Stability or something. Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Christopher Smith
Hi, all. One of my Mac-using pals emailed me about his recent Tiger and Fin2006 upgrade issue. Has anyone else had problems with this, or do you think his problem is completely unrelated (as is my first guess?) I remember a thread recently (Hiro?) talking about older versions of the VISE

Re: [Finale] Did everyone miss this?

2005-07-28 Thread Allen Fisher
As I've said many times, I do not monitor this list in any official capacity. I've been a list member for about 6 years, a makemusic employee for 7, and a Finale user for 10. I'm simply here as a fellow Finale user. Andrew Levin wrote: One moment Aaron Sherber said: WinFin2006 seems to be

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Randolph Peters
Oh crap. I just installed Finale 2006 and I noticed that I had lost my Firefox preferences, bookmarks, addons and other settings. (And my Snitch settings are also gone.) I just checked my address book now and noticed that it was empty too except for an Apple listing. I thought it might be

Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread Allen Fisher
I only started blue-screening when I installed a Delta AudioPhile 192 that didn't play well with my OEM soundcard. Once I removed every trace of the offending card from the system I haven't bluescreened. On 7/28/05 7:15 AM, Dan Carno [EMAIL PROTECTED] said this: At 07:35 AM 7/28/2005, you

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Christopher Smith / 2005/07/28 / 09:36 AM wrote: I remember a thread recently (Hiro?) talking about older versions of the VISE installer. This couldn't cause his problem, could it? Very unlikely... But without having Fin2006 in my hand (yup, I received the confirmation too), I won't be able to

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Randolph Peters / 2005/07/28 / 10:30 AM wrote: There are some serious problems with the Finale install. Warning! This is almost unheard of! I take my word most unlikely back now. Two people is enough to prove something is wrong in this magnitude. So, FinMac2006 installer seems to be overwriting

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Randolph Peters
There is a long file called Installer Log File that the Finale 2006 left behind where you said. I'm going through it now to see if there are any possible conflicts. -Randolph Peters At 10:59 AM -0400 7/28/05, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Randolph Peters / 2005/07/28 / 10:30 AM wrote: There are

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Randolph Peters
I couldn't see any problems in the installer log file. Everything listed is installed where I told it to install. (Nothing listed as being installed in ~/Library at all.) There is also the Finale GPO installer and the new Font Installer which should be looked at as well. I would like to get

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread A-NO-NE Music
By the way, since we were talking about how VISEX installer could screw your OSX permission bit just yesterday, did you run Repair Permission before and after FinMac2006 install? Just curious :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com

Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 28 Jul 2005, at 6:19 AM, Simon Troup wrote: I've been reading lots of stuff in the list about MakeMusic! totally missing the mark with this upgrade - and having tried out the Finale GPO implementation I've got to say I think this is one of the most significant releases for years. Fin2k6

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 28 Jul 2005, at 10:30 AM, Randolph Peters wrote: Oh crap. I just installed Finale 2006 and I noticed that I had lost my Firefox preferences, bookmarks, addons and other settings. (And my Snitch settings are also gone.) I just checked my address book now and noticed that it was empty too

Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread Dan Carno
At 12:02 PM 7/28/2005, you wrote: Of course, if you don't care about playback, then these features may not be of interest, but most users do care about playback Hi all, I have never cared much about playback, aside from a preliminary proof-read for simple engraving projects. Are there

Re: [Finale] OT (Mac): Installing Flash Player

2005-07-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 28 Jul 2005, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Moving these folders means that I have now moved several thousand pre-OSX files into an OSX folder some five levels down. Hope I can find them when I reboot in System 9--wh. I still have to do every day. Andrew, Aliases created in OS X also

Re: [Finale] OT (Mac): Installing Flash Player

2005-07-28 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Andrew Stiller / 2005/07/28 / 12:23 PM wrote: Moving these folders means that I have now moved several thousand pre-OSX files into an OSX folder some five levels down. Hope I can find them when I reboot in System 9--wh. I still have to do every day. This is most likely the source of your

Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: [snip] Winsupport says their screen shots are actually from the Mac version, and that they knew the Win versions displays this way. Isn't that nice. No, but it is typical. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale

[Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread Randolph Peters
OK, I've got enough data points to make the claim that the Finale 2006 installer will erase important files from your Library folder. This is from another user on the official Finale forum (my apologies for quoting him in a different place, but I thought time was of the essence.): Well, it

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 28/07/05, Randolph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've got enough data points to make the claim that the Finale 2006 installer will erase important files from your Library folder. Is this Tiger-only, or will it clear out your ~/Library/Application Support folder in Panther as well? --

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread Randolph Peters
At 10:08 AM -0700 7/28/05, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 28/07/05, Randolph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've got enough data points to make the claim that the Finale 2006 installer will erase important files from your Library folder. Is this Tiger-only, or will it clear out your

RE: [Finale] Helsinki font

2005-07-28 Thread Ronald M. Krentzman
This is interesting as Sibelius 3 has built-in support for changing the music font to Petrucci or Maestro. So it's OK for Sibelius users to use Makemusic fonts but not the other way around? Ronald M. Krentzman RM Music Preparation On Behalf Of Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account Not this time,

Re: [Finale] arriving Friday

2005-07-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I hear you guys. But, God, the thought of dealing with a new computer is such a hassle, aside from any monetary burdens. With my limited knowledge of technology, it takes me forever to get everything hooked up and running every time I change. One other issue, if I do load the MacFin 06 on

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 28 Jul 2005, at 1:17 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I just got off the line with tech support at MakeMusic and they confirmed that there is indeed a problem with the installer erasing the ~/Library/Application Support folder. They just became aware of it 1 hour ago (it is now noon, July 28)

Re: [Finale] arriving Friday

2005-07-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
Dean, When you start up a new Mac for the first time, it will ask you if you want to transfer all your data and settings from an existing Mac. If so, all you need is a FireWire cable to hook up the two computers. It's extremely easy and reliable. You can have two simultaneous installation

[Finale] Re: Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread Kevin Kastning
One tip for better font rendering in XP is as follows. Right-click the desktop, and select Properties. (Or go to Control Panel / Display.) On the Appearance tab, click the Effects button. In the Effects window, select, Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts (checkmark in

Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread Raymond Horton
I bought Finale, many years ago, to engrave. The playback was useful to me almost entirely for checking notes. However, the improvement in playback in the last three versions, with HP and GPO, has been amazing. The improved playback is now extremely useful to me. I can now make

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I run OS 10.3.9 ... is that Tiger or Panther, or House Cat, or which animal? I can't remember which? Dean On Jul 28, 2005, at 8:34 AM, Randolph Peters wrote: I couldn't see any problems in the installer log file. Everything listed is installed where I told it to install. (Nothing listed as

Re: [Finale] arriving Friday

2005-07-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ok, thanks. Sounds as if there are some significant probs going on with installation at present ... perhaps I should wait a while anyway before installing on any machine. Dean On Jul 28, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Dean, When you start up a new Mac for the first time, it

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Harold Steinhardt
I also lost Address Book contacts and iCal entries after installing Fin2006.  My .Mac account came in handy for restoring the lost data!HaroldOn Jul 28, 2005, at 12:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:At 12:07 PM -0400 7/28/05, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 28 Jul 2005, at 10:30 AM, Randolph Peters

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
How long does it typically take Make Music to Debug something like this? Dean On Jul 28, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Harold Steinhardt wrote: I also lost Address Book contacts and iCal entries after installing Fin2006.  My .Mac account came in handy for restoring the lost data! Harold On Jul 28,

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread dhbailey
Randolph Peters wrote: At 10:08 AM -0700 7/28/05, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 28/07/05, Randolph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've got enough data points to make the claim that the Finale 2006 installer will erase important files from your Library folder. Is this Tiger-only, or will

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 28 Jul 2005, at 1:17 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I just got off the line with tech support at MakeMusic and they confirmed that there is indeed a problem with the installer erasing the ~/Library/Application Support folder. They just became aware of it 1 hour ago

[Finale] Problem accessing user manual

2005-07-28 Thread John Hughes
I wonder if anyone can help me solve this problem. When I try to access the manual, instead of Adobe Reader opening up Notepad opens up which means that everything is garbled. I have tried everyway I can think of to correct it and am now completely out of ideas. Until I get this fixed I will

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
I can't speak to their in-house testing, but installers often get short shrift. (They shouldn't, because then stuff like this happens!) Beta testers were given an installer to test, but it did not have this problem. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 28 Jul 2005, at 2:41 PM,

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread Randolph Peters
On 28/07/05, Randolph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:08 AM -0700 7/28/05, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 28/07/05, Randolph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've got enough data points to make the claim that the Finale 2006 installer will erase important files from your Library folder.

Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread Richard Smith
Raymond Horton wrote: I bought Finale, many years ago, to engrave. The playback was useful to me almost entirely for checking notes. However, the improvement in playback in the last three versions, with HP and GPO, has been amazing. The improved playback is now extremely useful to me. I

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
I would be surprised if this were a Tiger-only bug. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 28 Jul 2005, at 3:10 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 28, 2005, at 1:48 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I run OS 10.3.9 ... is that Tiger or Panther, or House Cat, or which animal? I can't

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:33 AM 7/28/05 -0700, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: How long does it typically take Make Music to Debug something like this? I wanted to reply something like say along with me: E P S, but I restrained myself. Oh, wait, guess not. :) Seriously, I can't imagine they'd leave themselves

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread Scott Jones
Why didn't the MAC beta testers discover this On Jul 28, 2005, at 2:41 PM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: On 28 Jul 2005, at 1:17 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I just got off the line with tech support at MakeMusic and they confirmed that there is indeed a problem with the

Re: [Finale] Problem accessing user manual

2005-07-28 Thread Burt Fenner
Options/Program Options/Folders/User Manual: BF John Hughes wrote: I wonder if anyone can help me solve this problem. When I try to access the manual, instead of Adobe Reader opening up Notepad opens up which means that everything is garbled. I have tried everyway I can think of to correct it

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 28/07/05, Scott Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why didn't the MAC beta testers discover this Having tested software before, I know that the installer used on beta vrsions is not the same installer that is put on the final product. The product itself is the main focus of testing, and then

RE: [Finale] Can Finale import audio files ?

2005-07-28 Thread DRD
Dennis has explained it very well. Since Sonar can have an audio track, and a midi track, you can move the audio track to align it with a midi measure. Using the audio track time base, and selecting a suitable from and to you can audition the audio track and insert notation (manually);

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ok, thanks. Dean On Jul 28, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 11:33 AM 7/28/05 -0700, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: How long does it typically take Make Music to Debug something like this? I wanted to reply something like say along with me: E P S, but I restrained

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Why did I not think of that? Sorry, Dean On Jul 28, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Simon Troup wrote: I run OS 10.3.9 ... is that Tiger or Panther, or House Cat, or which animal? I can't remember which? That's googleable in less than 3 seconds ... Simon Troup Digital Music Art

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Simon Troup
That's googleable in less than 3 seconds ... Why did I not think of that? Sorry, Dean Well, it's nice to think that you think the answer would be faster on here, that's kind of a compliment for everyone I suppose. :) Simon Troup Digital Music Art

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installation

2005-07-28 Thread Ken Durling
I don't think you don't need to apologize. Asking for help gives people a chance to help you (and vice-versa) and you give them a chance to feel useful. This is a good thing, and very civilized. Google is great, but I fear the way the Internet isolates us sometimes. Ken At 03:35 PM

[Finale] Garritan Ambience question

2005-07-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, Under VST Setup in Fin2006 is a checkbox called Ambience Reverb, with an Edit button that pops up a console. The console has all kinds of inscrutable dials that I don't have time to monkey with right now. The Fin manual reproduced a paragraph from the GPO docs that says that

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic shipping replacement install discs for F2006 (Mac)

2005-07-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:25 PM 07/28/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: Here is the message from Coda (although all registered Mac users should have already received it): Seems they really should send this message (and the new discs) to everyone who has already ordered 2006, regardless of whether they're currently

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic shipping replacement install discs for F2006 (Mac)

2005-07-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
Aaron, For all I know, they have done so. Any Windows users who preordered 2k6 get this email? - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 28 Jul 2005, at 8:44 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 08:25 PM 07/28/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: Here is the message from Coda (although all

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic shipping replacement install discs for F2006 (Mac)

2005-07-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:54 PM 07/28/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: For all I know, they have done so. Any Windows users who preordered 2k6 get this email? Sorry, I wasn't clear -- that was sort of my point. I'm a registered Win user, and my discs arrived yesterday. But I didn't get that email. (I'm also not

[Finale] OT: MP3 Proofing Request

2005-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
Could someone check these MP3s: http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Tenebrae/ to tell me if there are problems with them? I know there's a little distortion on them (they are only 192KB MP3s), but it's not obtrusive. I'm only concerned to make sure there are no glitches in the playback. I

[Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-28 Thread Horace Brock
Excuse me. Am I the only one who got a DVD of Fin2k6 who DOESN'T have a DVD player in the machine? When did they stop sending out CD-ROMs? Horace Brock ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic shipping replacement install discs for F2006 (Mac)

2005-07-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hey Aaron, You (and others concerned about this) should write WinSupport and let them know. As far as I'm concerned, they should email _everyone_, automatically send new discs to the registered Mac users, and allow PC users the option to receive the replacement discs free of charge. (In

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread John Howell
At 5:48 PM -0400 7/28/05, David W. Fenton wrote: I can understand exactly how an error like this could be missed. The test machines they use are problem machines dedicated to this kind of testing, and they probably image them to a particular state before running the installer. But since they

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jul 2005 at 18:25, Eric Dannewitz wrote: It did say on the update page that it was on DVD. You can get it on CDRoms for a little extra $$$. But, you know, you could get a DVD drive for about $20, so, why not just go get one? Well, for one, DVD drive support on Windows, especially

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jul 2005 at 21:38, John Howell wrote: At 5:48 PM -0400 7/28/05, David W. Fenton wrote: I can understand exactly how an error like this could be missed. The test machines they use are problem machines dedicated to this kind of testing, and they probably image them to a particular state

Re: [Finale] Garritan Ambience question

2005-07-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 28 Jul 2005, at 11:07 PM, Gerald Berg wrote: Lower right corner -- pull down -- should read Ballroom or something Jerry, Nope. That's in GPO Studio. Aaron was asking about the VST version of Ambience. On Mac, it's pretty clear -- there's a Factory Preset pull-down menu at the top of

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread Richard Yates
[quoting me, unattributed:] And ClearType really only has an effect with LCD displays -- that's what it was designed for. So, you really shouldn't use ClearType for anti-aliasing unless you're using an LCD display. Not so. I had not heard of ClearType in XP Display options until

[Finale] Adjusting lyrics back to default position

2005-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
Once you've adjusted lyrics positioning vertically, is there some way to clear that positioning? I just realized that I could fix the problem by reversing the stem direction and not have to nudge the lyrics up vertically, and now want to put them back where they were, but don't remember how

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jul 2005 at 20:27, Richard Yates wrote: [quoting me, unattributed:] And ClearType really only has an effect with LCD displays -- that's what it was designed for. So, you really shouldn't use ClearType for anti-aliasing unless you're using an LCD display. Not so. I had

[Finale] Problem installing MusicXML.dll with Finale 2006 Windows

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Copeland
Hello. I have just received Finale 2006 for Windows. I installed the program and have run it, trying to export a file as MusicXML When I tried to export the file I got the following message "Files cannot be imported or exported through MusicXML because the necessary file "MusicXML.dll"

[Finale] Ken Durling.

2005-07-28 Thread keith helgesen
Sorry to use the list for personal contact! Ken Durling.- please contact me off list! Re; Info on harpist friend. Cheers K Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -- No virus found in

[Finale] Finale 2006 and Forza

2005-07-28 Thread Rick Neal
Has anyone gotten Finale 2006 to work with Forza? I keep getting an error saying that Forza 18 beta 4 is not supported in this version of Finale, please obtain a newer version from vendor. I wonder if it's because I am using the beta version instead of 17c or if an updated Pdktools is