Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good explanation Tyler ... now, how do you feel about the GPO sounds? Are they as good as the samples provided on the MM site, or not? And if not, what gives? Also, I've just received the following message: Dear Finale Macintosh

[Finale] Finale2006 and SmartMusic Accompaniment

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
I finally saved one of my Finale files as a SmartMusicAccompaniment file, since I had installed SmartMusic as part of the upgrade. Then I ran SmartMusic to see how well my file worked within SmartMusic. Imagine my shock when I was confronted with a message informing me that I needed to

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 29 Jul 2005 at 15:46, Eric Dannewitz wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: This kind of comment confuses me enormously. Isn't GPO being driven by MIDI data? Don't you really mean that you can't drive but the one synthesizer at a time if you're using GPO? Its an Audio

Re: [Finale] TAN - What printer to buy?

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Paul Witney wrote: HI, I know this topic has been around before, but I wanted to get opinions as to what is the best printer to buy for Finale scores? I have Finale 2005, and am using windows XP. Thank you in advance ! Do you want 11x17 printing capability? Do you want to be able to

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Totally agree. I really think the GPO thing is fluff. I'd rather see Finale get better at importing Midi files. I hate when a Midi that I've done in Digital Performer does not come across correctly in Finale. It happens all the time. It's frustrating, and wastes time.

Re: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 8:13 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Since the Kontakt Player only shows eight instruments, I've been having a hell of a time trying to load GPO patches for channels 9-16. I suspect it's something easy, but I've just not found it. Brad, You can't.

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 8:03 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: If HP works with any GM synthesizer, what's the advantage of GPO, then? 1) Apparently opinions differ here, but I think GPO sounds are clearly *far* superior to the Finale SoundFont, especially the wind, ensemble

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: [snip] And does anyone fear that MakeMusic may have placed their bets on the wrong horse in the sound samples race? I'll raise my hand on this one. I'll go further and say that I think MakeMusic has made a huge mistake in including any such playback device. I have

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 9:06 PM, John Hughes wrote: Mine sound just awful. I bought Fin2006 purely on the promise that I could at last hear my work sound something like real. But I'm afraid I was very disappointed. The same with Finale's HP. I could never use it. You

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Tyler Turner wrote: Hi Craig, Darcy mentioned it, but I just want to make sure you caught it. For new compositions that you create with the setup wizard, you don't have to do any GPO setup. It's automatically done (and that's a major part of the integration). For older files, yes, you will

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
ronan wrote: I admit I was somewhat disappointed with the Finale/GPO instruments. To me they didn't sound much better than the Softsynths. But I just got the patch so I can use the full GPO and I've got all those wonderful sounds back. There is a huge difference between the generic solo violin

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: [snip] Some people seem to have wildly unrealistic expectations of what GPO is. It is *not* a massive, high-end sample library suitable for professional film scoring. It will *not* fool anybody (or at least, not anybody on this list) into thinking that they are

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:56 AM 7/30/05 -0400, dhbailey wrote: I'll go further and say that I think MakeMusic has made a huge mistake in including any such playback device. I agree with you. The production of 'human playback' Midi was worthwhile, because it pretty much covers the ground of how effective production

Re: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:35 AM 07/30/2005, dhbailey wrote: Do you mean to tell us that we can only load 8 GPO instruments at a time? No, you can load 8 instruments into each of 8 instances of the player, for a total of 64. The (confusing) point was that it looks like you *should* be able to load 16 instruments

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:56 AM 07/30/2005, dhbailey wrote: we have to prepare THREE files -- one for printing, one for playback via GPO and another playback file to share with others who don't have machines powerful enough to use GPO.) This does seem like sort of a problem. For example, for my own use, I will

[Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
I have played around some more with the GPO and I will admit that its sounds really are an improvement over the soundfont. A large improvement? No. But an improvement nonetheless. Worth the majority of the upgrade development effort? No. Does anybody else notice that the green playback

Re: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 06:35 AM 07/30/2005, dhbailey wrote: Do you mean to tell us that we can only load 8 GPO instruments at a time? No, you can load 8 instruments into each of 8 instances of the player, for a total of 64. The (confusing) point was that it looks like you *should* be able

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 06:56 AM 07/30/2005, dhbailey wrote: we have to prepare THREE files -- one for printing, one for playback via GPO and another playback file to share with others who don't have machines powerful enough to use GPO.) This does seem like sort of a problem. For example,

Re: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:25 AM 07/30/2005, dhbailey wrote: powerful enough to load 8 instances of the player. I wonder why the MakeMusic developers felt it incumbent on them to list those 8 instances for the VST player as 1-16 instead of 1-8? Would different NI-compatible soundsets actually allow use of all 16

Re: [Finale] TAN - What printer to buy?

2005-07-30 Thread Cecil Rigby
I use the HP 5100 dtn (duplexing) on WinXP and there's no difference from what Ken reports. It has a parallel port built in so you can use it with Mac if you want (which I do, occasionally). Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) www.harrockhall.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ken Durling [EMAIL

Re: [Finale] TAN - What printer to buy?

2005-07-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 29, 2005, at 7:29 PM, Paul Witney wrote: x-tad-biggerHI,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI know this topic has been around before, but I wanted to get opinions as to what is the best printer to buy for Finale scores? I have Finale 2005, and am using windows

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Tyler Turner wrote: Hi Craig, Darcy mentioned it, but I just want to make sure you caught it. For new compositions that you create with the setup wizard, you don't have to do any GPO setup. It's automatically done (and that's a major part of the integration). For older files, yes, you will

Re: [Finale] TAN - What printer to buy?

2005-07-30 Thread Simon Troup
I know this topic has been around before, but I wanted to get opinions as to what is the best printer to buy for Finale scores? I have Finale 2005, and am using windows XP. I've been using an HP LaserJet 5100 for a few years now, and I simply can't imagine anything better. I have an HP

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 30/07/05, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still waiting to be shown why GPO/Kontakt playback is superior. A kind member of this list has offered to work on a file of mine to show me how to get improved playback via GPO. I am eager to see what the result is. Jari has just put up

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Indeed. They should have included a couple of demos. Everyone who uses GPO says it takes some learning to get the best out of it. And, MakeMusic of course documented how to do itnot! I'd rather have had more improvements than GPO included. I seriously think this update sucks. It seems

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Which is totally an oversight by MakeMusic. I don't know about VST (don't really use it), but I use GPO (full version) with Digital Performer, and I can easily have my cake (Audio Units) and eat it too (and Midi). It doesn't make sense that you can't mix it. You can get a max of 8

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and SmartMusic Accompaniment

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Ha! Welcome to Smartmusic. Please leave your credit card with MakeMusic. I think you can get around actually buying a subscription. Or you used to. You just won't be able to access the library of smart music. Perhaps they changed this dhbailey wrote: I finally saved one of my Finale

[Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question

2005-07-30 Thread Andrew Levin
After talking about the features and drawbacks I have straightforward workflow questions. Reading all that's be written to date, I have some basic questions about how to use the program that I haven't heard addressed yet. What is the best way to start a new project in Finale? I can imagine

[Finale] Finale2006 softsynth OR GPO audiosaving

2005-07-30 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
Despite my lack of enthusiasm for the wisdom of doing so, I frequently need to prepare demosin CD format of new compositions or arrangements for a few of the younger members of my orchestra. Can anyone tell me if saving as an audio file (in '06) offers the choice ofsoftsynth HP OR GPO

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Thank you ... I found this most helpful. Dean On Jul 30, 2005, at 8:40 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 30/07/05, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still waiting to be shown why GPO/Kontakt playback is superior. A kind member of this list has offered to work on a file of mine to show me

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread John Hughes
- Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO On 29 Jul 2005, at 9:06 PM, John Hughes wrote: Mine sound just awful. I bought Fin2006 purely on the promise that I could

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Simon Troup
You can get a max of 8 instruments with the GPO version that comes with Finale 2006? So, if you happen to do an arrangement that has more than 8 instruments, you are out of luck in using GPO. You'd have to use the soundfonts or Midi. I seem to be able to address 8 banks or 8 instruments (64

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Randolph Peters
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Which is totally an oversight by MakeMusic. I don't know about VST (don't really use it), but I use GPO (full version) with Digital Performer, and I can easily have my cake (Audio Units) and eat it too (and Midi). It doesn't make sense that you can't mix it. You can

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Thanks. Dean On Jul 30, 2005, at 12:29 AM, Tyler Turner wrote: --- Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good explanation Tyler ... now, how do you feel about the GPO sounds? Are they as good as the samples provided on the MM site, or not? And if not, what gives? Also, I've just

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Michael Good
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Totally agree. I really think the GPO thing is fluff. I'd rather see Finale get better at importing Midi files. I hate when a Midi that I've done in Digital Performer does not come across correctly in Finale. It happens all the time. It's frustrating, and wastes time.

Re: [Finale] Problem accessing user manual

2005-07-30 Thread John Hughes
DAVID, YOU'RE A PRINCE. Your suggestion worked. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your willingness to help fellow Finale strugglers. It must happen so often to members on the list who sometimes reach the point of desperation, when a shining light reaches out to them from another member

RE: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-30 Thread ronan
The sound of full GPO compared to Finale/GPO is 100% better. Finale used generic sounding instruments, while in Garritan's GPO you get instruments with character. Frankly, I can't tell the difference between Softsynths and the Finale/GPO instruments, but I don't have the best of hearing. Ron

RE: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-30 Thread ronan
No, you can load up to 64 instruments at a time. There are 8 instances of the Kontakt player that can be loaded under Midi set up. Ron Ronald J Brown PO Box 138 Newboro ON K0G 1P0 (613) 272-3181 http://www.RonaldJBrown.com -Original Message- From: dhbailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-30 Thread Phil Daley
At 05:56 PM 7/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, you won't encounter the problems unless you persist in using your optical drives like removable disks, i.e., the way you could in all previous versions of Windows. Here's the scenario that reveals the problems: Use commandline XCOPY to

RE: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-30 Thread ronan
In the Kontakt player, in the box underneath the CPO Usage box is a happy face? cat? (it's so small I can't make out what it's suppose to be.) Click that and you can assign an input channel to the instrument you have selected. So, yes, you can have Finale write to Channels 9-16, the have your

RE: [Finale] Finale2006 softsynth OR GPO audiosaving

2005-07-30 Thread ronan
I read in another site that Save as Audio will be in a maintenance release. Ron Ronald J Brown PO Box 138 Newboro ON K0G 1P0 (613) 272-3181 http://www.RonaldJBrown.com From: Mariposa Symphony Orchestra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 30, 2005 12:12 PM To:

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Jul 2005, at 12:27 PM, John Hughes wrote: - Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mine sound just awful. I bought Fin2006 purely on the promise that I could at last hear my work sound something like real. But I'm afraid I was very disappointed. The same

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Jul 2005, at 7:06 AM, dhbailey wrote: Tyler Turner wrote: Hi Craig, Darcy mentioned it, but I just want to make sure you caught it. For new compositions that you create with the setup wizard, you don't have to do any GPO setup. It's automatically done (and that's a major part of the

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-30 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Stephen Peters / 2005/07/29 / 01:38 PM wrote: But this is a matter of testing *other* applications to make sure that they still worked after the procedure, which I strongly doubt is part of their test suite. Address Book is a part of OSX, which is not other application in this context. Look,

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Jul 2005, at 6:56 AM, dhbailey wrote: I have an enormous problem with the fact that the majority of my upgrade dollars have gone to something which is problematic to use at best (now we have to prepare THREE files -- one for printing, one for playback via GPO and another playback file

Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Jul 2005, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Levin wrote: What is the best way to start a new project in Finale? Setup Wizard. *There are times when I know I'll need GPO, so I'll start up with the GPO wizard There is no GPO Wizard. There is an option in the Setup Wizard to use GPO Finale Edition

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Jul 2005, at 11:46 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: You can get a max of 8 instruments with the GPO version that comes with Finale 2006? No. Max 64 channels (and many are keyswitching, so no need to use up separate channels for arco violins and pizz violins. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Jul 2005, at 11:40 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 30/07/05, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still waiting to be shown why GPO/Kontakt playback is superior. A kind member of this list has offered to work on a file of mine to show me how to get improved playback via GPO. I am eager

Re: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Jul 2005, at 1:26 PM, ronan wrote: In the Kontakt player, in the box underneath the CPO Usage box is a happy face? cat? (it's so small I can't make out what it's suppose to be.) Click that and you can assign an input channel to the instrument you have selected. So, yes, you can have

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 softsynth OR GPO audiosaving

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Jul 2005, at 12:11 PM, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: Can anyone tell me if saving as an audio file (in '06) offers the choice of softsynth HP OR GPO playback - MY choice? Or is it a default over which I'd have no control? Save as Audio for GPO is not hooked up yet. Yes,

[Finale] OT: Saxophonist Michael Brecker needs bone marrow donor

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
Details here: http://tinyurl.com/d4wrm - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 softsynth OR GPO audiosaving

2005-07-30 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
Disappointing: yes. Surprising: no. But thanks very much for the info, Darcy -- Best, Les Les MarsdenFounding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!!

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ok ... just installed 2006 w/out any problems I can detect. Messed around with a couple of instruments in GPO (Eng. Hrn. and Cl.) in a little duet I wrote. I think the quality of the sounds and human playback are excellent, as promised. However, when I added a couple of more instruments, as

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:46 AM 07/30/2005, Eric Dannewitz wrote: You can get a max of 8 instruments with the GPO version that comes with Finale 2006? This has been said elsewhere, but just to be clear: You can get 64 instruments. You can instantiate 8 Kontakt players, and each player can have 8 instruments.

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:34 PM 07/30/2005, Simon Troup wrote: It looks like I should be able to address 8 banks of 16 instruments, but I can't figure out how to access, for example, the second tier of the the first bank (9 to 16). You can't. For whatever reason, and whatever limitation, you can only access the

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 softsynth OR GPO audiosaving

2005-07-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:11 PM 07/30/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: Save as Audio for GPO is not hooked up yet. Well, that's really stupid. I would assume that most people who are using GPO want it to produce demo CDs for others, not just for their own in-house enjoyment. I know there are workarounds and ways

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread John Hughes
- Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO On 30 Jul 2005, at 12:27 PM, John Hughes wrote: - Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Jul 2005, at 3:02 PM, John Hughes wrote: The trumpet, for a start, sounds absolutely nothing like a trumpet. I am a trumpet player and the sound I hear really offends me. Everyone's always biased towards their own instrument. Johannes has said that the solo violins sound nothing like

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Of course you'd like it to work with MusicXML. Isn't that YOUR company? Where is the guess work in MIDI files? Example, I can do something in Digital Performer, load it into Logic, and it looks the same. Triplets come out as triplets. Etc. But I load the same file into Finale, and the triplet

[Finale] Fin2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Henry E. Howey
My Dear Listfriends, As one who (wisely?) sprang for GPO prior to MakeMusic's (MM) 2006 announcement, I would like to add my two cents to what I've read so far. 1. GPO is a lovely set of sounds with really terrible documentation. I know how the percussion works now, I simply cannot imagine how

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Simon Troup
Where is the guess work in MIDI files? Example, I can do something in Digital Performer, load it into Logic, and it looks the same. Triplets come out as triplets. Etc. But I load the same file into Finale, and the triplet comes out wrong. Hi eric I'm intrigued, if you have a moment send me a

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Simon Troup
Where is the setting for Ambiance Reverb? I've missed it somehow. MIDI Native Instruments AU SetUp Ambience Reverb Edit It's at the bottom of the dialog box. Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
dennis c. wrote: dhbailey wrote: In any event, the plug-ins for mid-measure repeats work fine, the automatic adjustment of measure numbers when deleting a measure is very nice, but hardly worth the $100 upgrade fee. One wonders why you were in such a hurry to spend these 100 bucks. After

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and SmartMusic Accompaniment

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Ha! Welcome to Smartmusic. Please leave your credit card with MakeMusic. I think you can get around actually buying a subscription. Or you used to. You just won't be able to access the library of smart music. Perhaps they changed this They've apparently

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jul 2005 at 7:37, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 06:56 AM 7/30/05 -0400, dhbailey wrote: I'll go further and say that I think MakeMusic has made a huge mistake in including any such playback device. I agree with you. The production of 'human playback' Midi was worthwhile, because

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 30 Jul 2005, at 6:56 AM, dhbailey wrote: I have an enormous problem with the fact that the majority of my upgrade dollars have gone to something which is problematic to use at best (now we have to prepare THREE files -- one for printing, one for playback via GPO

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Ok ... just installed 2006 w/out any problems I can detect. Messed around with a couple of instruments in GPO (Eng. Hrn. and Cl.) in a little duet I wrote. I think the quality of the sounds and human playback are excellent, as promised. However, when I added a

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 softsynth OR GPO audiosaving

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 02:11 PM 07/30/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: Save as Audio for GPO is not hooked up yet. Well, that's really stupid. I would assume that most people who are using GPO want it to produce demo CDs for others, not just for their own in-house enjoyment. I know there

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 11:46 AM 07/30/2005, Eric Dannewitz wrote: You can get a max of 8 instruments with the GPO version that comes with Finale 2006? This has been said elsewhere, but just to be clear: You can get 64 instruments. You can instantiate 8 Kontakt players, and each player can

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jul 2005 at 8:40, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 30/07/05, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still waiting to be shown why GPO/Kontakt playback is superior. A kind member of this list has offered to work on a file of mine to show me how to get improved playback via GPO. I am eager

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread John Hughes
- Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO On 30 Jul 2005, at 3:02 PM, John Hughes wrote: The trumpet, for a start, sounds absolutely nothing like a trumpet. I am

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jul 2005 at 13:10, Phil Daley wrote: At 05:56 PM 7/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, you won't encounter the problems unless you persist in using your optical drives like removable disks, i.e., the way you could in all previous versions of Windows. Here's the scenario that

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I thought so myself, and it is on channel 10, but still the piano sounds. Now, interestingly enough, when I tried Hyperscrive in GPO, the countoff and click sound was automatically a percussion sound (kind of like a triangle, I think). H .. Dean On Jul 30, 2005, at 3:08 PM, dhbailey

Re: [Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question

2005-07-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jul 2005 at 13:56, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 30 Jul 2005, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Levin wrote: [] One other marginally related question: I read here (or Jari's review, or the Finale web site -- sorry that I can't remember) that GPO output is only for the sound that comes out of your

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Of course you'd like it to work with MusicXML. Isn't that YOUR company? Where is the guess work in MIDI files? Example, I can do something in Digital Performer, load it into Logic, and it looks the same. Triplets come out as triplets. Etc. But I load the same file into

[Finale] Mac Finale 2006 Performance

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Has anyone noticed that Finale 2006 seems slower on a lot of things than 2005 was. For example, if I highlight a bar, then hold shift, then go to another bar, there is a lag. I didn't have that with Finale 2005. I see the lag big time on my 933 G4, and a little on my Mini Mac. I have yet to

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jul 2005 at 15:27, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I thought so myself, and it is on channel 10, but still the piano sounds. Now, interestingly enough, when I tried Hyperscrive in GPO, the countoff and click sound was automatically a percussion sound (kind of like a triangle, I think). H

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 softsynth OR GPO audiosaving

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Indeed. I seriously think this update blows. I don't see any speed improvements, in fact, I see a lot of things that seem slower, like highlighting stuff using Mass Mover. dhbailey wrote: Timetables, Aaron, timetables. Deadlines doth make compromisers of us all. Better a product which

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Darcy: Where is the setting for Ambiance Reverb? I've missed it somehow. Under Midi, click on Native Instruments VST Setup. There is a checkbox at the bottom called Ambiance Reverb. There is an edit button next to it. Click the EDIT button and you can then

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and SmartMusic Accompaniment

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
That really sucks. I have an active subscription to SmartMusic (as the schools around here use it in their music program). Too bad they don't have a standalone player. dhbailey wrote: They've apparently changed this because when I try to play my own music, entered into Finale and saved

[Finale] Tuplets

2005-07-30 Thread Lee Actor
Just to have a break from GPO issues, here's something a little odd I just noticed. I have a passage with 16th-note 6-tuples in some parts, 8th-note triplets in others, and various mixed duple and other rhythms in others. In the tuple rhythms, the tuple number is on the beam side, with no

Re: [Finale] Mac Finale 2006 Performance

2005-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Has anyone noticed that Finale 2006 seems slower on a lot of things than 2005 was. For example, if I highlight a bar, then hold shift, then go to another bar, there is a lag. I didn't have that with Finale 2005. I see the lag big time on my 933 G4, and a little on my

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Lon Price
On Jul 30, 2005, at 2:44 PM, dhbailey wrote:n the past, even when there hasn't been much of great import touted in the upgrades, I have found each one I have purchased (every one since I started using version 3.5) to have had significant numbers of small improvements all through the program.  I

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Yes, I could ... not a problem. It's just that when inputting in soundfont, via Hyperscribe, it's easier to deal with a percussive sound, which I haven't been able to get yet. If I understand your question correctly. Thanks, Dean On Jul 30, 2005, at 3:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On

Re: [Finale] Mac Finale 2006 Performance

2005-07-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Yes, I have noticed. Please make sure you send your complaints to Macsupport immediately. Johannes Eric Dannewitz schrieb: Has anyone noticed that Finale 2006 seems slower on a lot of things than 2005 was. For example, if I highlight a bar, then hold shift, then go to another bar, there is a

RE: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-30 Thread ronan
I stand corrected. Ron Ronald J Brown PO Box 138 Newboro ON K0G 1P0 (613) 272-3181 http://www.RonaldJBrown.com -Original Message- From: Darcy James Argue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 30, 2005 2:09 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] GPO instrument loading On 30 Jul

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Got it, Thanks, Dean On Jul 30, 2005, at 3:46 PM, dhbailey wrote: Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Darcy: Where is the setting for Ambiance Reverb? I've missed it somehow. Under Midi, click on Native Instruments VST Setup. There is a checkbox at the bottom called Ambiance Reverb. There is an

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 softsynth OR GPO audiosaving

2005-07-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:11 PM 07/30/2005, dhbailey wrote: Better a product which doesn't work as it should but is shipped when promised than a product which excels but may be late.  Hogwash. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Lon Price
On Jul 30, 2005, at 2:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:If you're going to use a different file for playback, why not just  save your printable score as MIDI then use a sequencer to tweak  playback? Why use Finale at all for creating a playback file if  you're going to fork your playback from the

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:40 PM 07/30/2005, dhbailey wrote: Which brings up the question as to why the Ambience Reverb doesn't give us Room Sizes to choose from, at least on the Windows side of things? Is that something to be expected in the maintenance release as well? Yes, according to Winsupport. Aaron.

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread John Hughes
David, HALLELUJAH! At least someone understands what I am getting at. Many thanks for the kind suggestions you put forth in your previous email. Constructive help is so much nicer than sniping. I shall now go forth and put them into practice. In my own defence, I would like to explain

RE: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-30 Thread ronan
I just finished setting up a symphonic score with 40 instruments, using Finale with the full version of GPO. I have each percussion instrument set to a different channel. Eg, Snare: 67; tamtam = 68, etc. They play back beautifully. BTW, I didn't bother with midi assignments. I left all of them

[Finale] Why MIDI import is guesswork for notation programs

2005-07-30 Thread Michael Good
Hi Eric, Where is the guess work in MIDI files? If MIDI was good enough for music notation, there would have been no need to invent MusicXML. We invented MusicXML because there was no adequate way to transfer music notation between applications. MIDI's inadequacy for music notation is hardly

Re: [Finale] Why MIDI import is guesswork for notation programs

2005-07-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jul 2005 at 16:44, Michael Good wrote: Hi Eric, Where is the guess work in MIDI files? If MIDI was good enough for music notation, there would have been no need to invent MusicXML. We invented MusicXML because there was no adequate way to transfer music notation between

Re: [Finale] Mac Finale 2006 Performance

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Sent! I am amazed at the low quality of this release. Seriously. Johannes Gebauer wrote: Yes, I have noticed. Please make sure you send your complaints to Macsupport immediately. Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Why MIDI import is guesswork for notation programs

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Thank you! David W. Fenton wrote: I think you're missing the point. The problems Eric was having with MIDI import have *nothing* to do with notational elements that cannot be included in MIDI files. They have everything to do with Finale's obtuse transcription of MIDI data into notation.

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-30 Thread Simon Troup
This has been said elsewhere, but just to be clear: You can get 64 instruments. You can instantiate 8 Kontakt players, and each player can have 8 instruments. That makes 64. If your computer can handle all 8 instances of the Kontakt player. True, but you're going to run into this with

Re: [Finale] Why MIDI import is guesswork for notation programs

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
No to be rude, but I really don't care about MusicXML. I'm dealing with MIDI files. The way most professional sequencers (Digital Performer/Protools/Logic) can shuttle things back and forth. I don't see studio's MusicXML to get stuff out of Digital Performer into Sibelius or Finale. All

Re: [Finale] Mac Finale 2006 Performance

2005-07-30 Thread Simon Troup
I see the lag big time on my 933 G4, and a little on my Mini Mac. I have yet to try the PC version. Both Macs are maxed out with ram, and running 10.4.2 Maybe you're not getting the benefit from CoreGraphics? What graphics card do you have? Simon Troup Digital Music Art

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 softsynth OR GPO audiosaving

2005-07-30 Thread Simon Troup
Indeed. I seriously think this update blows. I don't see any speed improvements, in fact, I see a lot of things that seem slower, like highlighting stuff using Mass Mover. I've got speed parity or improvement. Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___

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