Re: [Finale] Is it just me? [OT]

2005-08-02 Thread Stephen Peters
David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please post a reference where I said not to buy the drives. [...] I posted a warning about potential pitfalls and about basic weaknesses in WinXP optical drive support, nothing more. Well, to quote from the Eric Dannewitz's message and your reply

Re: [Finale] Is it just me? [OT]

2005-08-02 Thread Jim Williams
Hi David, Here are some thoughts... From: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. writing to CD-R/RW is problematic. [snip] Dragging and dropping in Windows Explorer, i.e., treating the drive like any other removable media (which was possible in previous versions of Windows). Absolutely.

Re: [Finale] Is it just me? [OT]

2005-08-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Aug 2005 at 11:59, Stephen Peters wrote: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please post a reference where I said not to buy the drives. [...] I posted a warning about potential pitfalls and about basic weaknesses in WinXP optical drive support, nothing more. Well, to

Re: [Finale] Is it just me? [OT]

2005-08-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Aug 2005 at 9:17, Jim Williams wrote: Hi David, Here are some thoughts... From: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. writing to CD-R/RW is problematic. [snip] Dragging and dropping in Windows Explorer, i.e., treating the drive like any other removable media (which was

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-08-01 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/31/2005 05:01 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Since it is so easy to use a CD Creator program and you can save the Image file so it can be used multiple times, I can see no reason to use an unreliable program, like XCOPY. How do you script a CD Creator program for regular backup, so that

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-08-01 Thread Stephen Peters
David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It doesn't work reliably in WinXP, because the CD-R writing interface has been hijacked and command prompts have been left out in the cold in a state of unreliability because of it. I confess, I'm confused now. I thought this all started because

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-08-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Aug 2005 at 7:20, Phil Daley wrote: At 7/31/2005 05:01 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Since it is so easy to use a CD Creator program and you can save the Image file so it can be used multiple times, I can see no reason to use an unreliable program, like XCOPY. How do you script a

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-08-01 Thread Phil Daley
At 8/1/2005 02:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Image file means one of two things: 1. a file that has the contents of an entire CD that can then be imaged onto the CD-R/RW in one operation. 2. a file that captures the image of an entire hard drive, created with programs like Symantec's Ghost.

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-08-01 Thread Phil Daley
At 8/1/2005 02:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I said you need a CD Creator program. Well, then, you're agreeing with me that it is impossible to do this with standard Windows XP -- you need add-on software. Correct. What would you suggest for backup, both method and medium? A CD Creator

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-08-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Aug 2005 at 12:53, Stephen Peters wrote: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It doesn't work reliably in WinXP, because the CD-R writing interface has been hijacked and command prompts have been left out in the cold in a state of unreliability because of it. I confess, I'm

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-08-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Aug 2005 at 14:55, Phil Daley wrote: At 8/1/2005 02:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Image file means one of two things: 1. a file that has the contents of an entire CD that can then be imaged onto the CD-R/RW in one operation. 2. a file that captures the image of an entire hard

Re: [Finale] Is it just me? [OT]

2005-08-01 Thread Jim Williams
Ok... I can't help myself any longer. I've got to comment on this. My apologies to the list for the off-topic nature of this post. David, here is your original statement: Well, for one, DVD drive support on Windows, especially WinXP, is decidedly problematic. It's not provided by the OS

Re: [Finale] Is it just me? [OT]

2005-08-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Aug 2005 at 21:04, Jim Williams wrote: Ok... I can't help myself any longer. I've got to comment on this. My apologies to the list for the off-topic nature of this post. David, here is your original statement: Well, for one, DVD drive support on Windows, especially WinXP, is

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-31 Thread Phil Daley
At 06:25 PM 7/30/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: With WinXP, it started breaking, becoming unreliable (because of the addition of the staging area, I believe). This was my point: using the drive CORRECTLY (as you agree, it seems to me), it now, with WinXP, doesn't work reliably. I was unaware

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Jul 2005 at 7:57, Phil Daley wrote: At 06:25 PM 7/30/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: With WinXP, it started breaking, becoming unreliable (because of the addition of the staging area, I believe). This was my point: using the drive CORRECTLY (as you agree, it seems to me), it now, with

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-30 Thread Phil Daley
At 05:56 PM 7/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, you won't encounter the problems unless you persist in using your optical drives like removable disks, i.e., the way you could in all previous versions of Windows. Here's the scenario that reveals the problems: Use commandline XCOPY to

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jul 2005 at 13:10, Phil Daley wrote: At 05:56 PM 7/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, you won't encounter the problems unless you persist in using your optical drives like removable disks, i.e., the way you could in all previous versions of Windows. Here's the scenario that

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 28 Jul 2005 at 18:25, Eric Dannewitz wrote: It did say on the update page that it was on DVD. You can get it on CDRoms for a little extra $$$. But, you know, you could get a DVD drive for about $20, so, why not just go get one? Well, for one, DVD drive support

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/29/2005 06:28 AM, dhbailey wrote: Wow -- I never knew that! When I installed WinXPpro(SP1 which I have since upgraded to service pack 2) on my desktop, I had a CDrw drive and a DVDrom drive. They both worked excellently after I installed WinXP and required no extra drivers to be

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Phil Daley wrote: At 7/29/2005 06:28 AM, dhbailey wrote: Wow -- I never knew that! When I installed WinXPpro(SP1 which I have since upgraded to service pack 2) on my desktop, I had a CDrw drive and a DVDrom drive. They both worked excellently after I installed WinXP and required no

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Exactly. I think the person who originally said it was full of it. Just because they see all the problems, doesn't mean that everything is problematic. Whatever. I've yet to have any issues with CD/DVD drives and Windows XP. dhbailey wrote: Wow -- I never knew that! When I installed

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 6:28, dhbailey wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 28 Jul 2005 at 18:25, Eric Dannewitz wrote: It did say on the update page that it was on DVD. You can get it on CDRoms for a little extra $$$. But, you know, you could get a DVD drive for about $20, so, why not just

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 6:40, Phil Daley wrote: At 7/29/2005 06:28 AM, dhbailey wrote: Wow -- I never knew that! When I installed WinXPpro(SP1 which I have since upgraded to service pack 2) on my desktop, I had a CDrw drive and a DVDrom drive. They both worked excellently after I

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 9:15, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Exactly. I think the person who originally said it was full of it. Just because they see all the problems, doesn't mean that everything is problematic. Whatever. I've yet to have any issues with CD/DVD drives and Windows XP. Um, I support PC

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Look, thats all well and nice, but I still stand by what I said. I don't think Windows XP has any problems at all with a drive that one can buy third party. You can talk the tech talk, but who cares? So what if you do it for a living? How many of us are NOT going to use the default setup?

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 15:48, Eric Dannewitz wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: Um, I support PC users for a living. I see a *lot* more PCs than any of you who aren't doing the same thing will do, of different makes, models and levels of performance. Look, thats all well and nice, but I still stand

[Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-28 Thread Horace Brock
Excuse me. Am I the only one who got a DVD of Fin2k6 who DOESN'T have a DVD player in the machine? When did they stop sending out CD-ROMs? Horace Brock ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jul 2005 at 18:25, Eric Dannewitz wrote: It did say on the update page that it was on DVD. You can get it on CDRoms for a little extra $$$. But, you know, you could get a DVD drive for about $20, so, why not just go get one? Well, for one, DVD drive support on Windows, especially

Re: [Finale] Is it just me, or

2005-05-09 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 8 May 2005 at 3:07, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I spent some time, with the on-line documentation, and in investigation mode, trying to get an executable shape to function. After putting the project on a back burner for a bit, I'm having a bit of a recollection that maybe

Re: [Finale] Is it just me, or

2005-05-09 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Friends: I finally managed to figure out the problem I was having with executable shape expressions. The problem actually was a function of the instrument list. The work in question is choral, and I set it up with the set-up wizard, which assigned the same channel and instrument to all

[Finale] Is it just me, or

2005-05-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Friends: Have a project which needs to be done in WINFin 2k, for compatibility reasons. I spent some time, with the on-line documentation, and in investigation mode, trying to get an executable shape to function. After putting the project on a back burner for a bit, I'm having a bit of a

Re: [Finale] Is it just me, or

2005-05-08 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 May 2005 at 3:07, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I spent some time, with the on-line documentation, and in investigation mode, trying to get an executable shape to function. After putting the project on a back burner for a bit, I'm having a bit of a recollection that maybe these didn't work

Re: [Finale] Is it just me, or

2005-05-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Thanks, David. I know they were not new, and I know that I got them to work in 2k2 or 2k3, but I can't seem to get them to work in 2k. I'll send a sample file to WINsupport tomorrow. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu