Re: [Finale] Slurs and tuplets

2019-06-08 Thread Barbara Touburg
On 8-6-2019 18:15, GERALD BERG wrote: I would go inside. Outside implying the bracket itself. Good reasoning! Thanks. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message

Re: [Finale] Slurs and tuplets

2019-06-08 Thread GERALD BERG
I would go inside. Outside implying the bracket itself. GJB On Saturday, June 8, 2019, 10:41:35 AM EDT, Barbara Touburg wrote: Hello all! When an unbeamed (bracketed) tuplet is slurred, where do I place the slur? Inside the tuplet or outside? Thanks! Barbara

[Finale] Slurs and tuplets

2019-06-08 Thread Barbara Touburg
Hello all! When an unbeamed (bracketed) tuplet is slurred, where do I place the slur? Inside the tuplet or outside? Thanks! Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale

Re: [Finale] Slurs and eps

2011-02-11 Thread Giovanni Andreani
Does this appear after placing the eps in other software's document? If so, I'd check if all fonts are loaded when launching the app. Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.eu Hi all, Some wrong placement of slurs beetween finale file and Eps export page file. (Fin2011b.r2

Re: [Finale] Slurs and eps

2011-02-11 Thread Pierre Bailleul
default document, then export in eps, no slurs problems in illustrator? Pierre -Message d'origine- From: Pierre Bailleul Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:00 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Slurs and eps Hi all, Some wrong placement of slurs beetween finale file and Eps export

Re: [Finale] Slurs and eps

2011-02-11 Thread Christopher Smith
Subject: [Finale] Slurs and eps Hi all, Some wrong placement of slurs beetween finale file and Eps export page file. (Fin2011b.r2 / Win 7 64 bit) Can anybody help me? Thanks Pierre ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http

Re: [Finale] Slurs and eps

2011-02-11 Thread SN jef chippewa
in mac, even having special arrowheads means the eps will not work. the only solution seems to be to remove all custom arrowheads. as i recall things didn't shift in the EPS but were simply not there. but haven't sen this in a long time, i almost never use EPS. I have heard that the

[Finale] Slurs and eps

2011-02-10 Thread Pierre Bailleul
Hi all, Some wrong placement of slurs beetween finale file and Eps export page file. (Fin2011b.r2 / Win 7 64 bit) Can anybody help me? Thanks Pierre ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] slurs needed over tremolos?

2010-07-01 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan wrote: I'm waffling back and forth over the need for slurs over fingered tremolos in strings. Example: Whole note C, whole note A, three tremolo beams in between. My familiarity with the music tells me that a slur is somewhat implied, but I wonder if a

Re: [Finale] slurs needed over tremolos?

2010-07-01 Thread John Howell
At 11:43 PM -0700 6/30/10, Mark D Lew wrote: On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan wrote: I'm waffling back and forth over the need for slurs over fingered tremolos in strings. Example: Whole note C, whole note A, three tremolo beams in between. My familiarity with the music tells me that a slur

[Finale] slurs needed over tremolos?

2010-06-30 Thread Ryan
I'm waffling back and forth over the need for slurs over fingered tremolos in strings. Example: Whole note C, whole note A, three tremolo beams in between. My familiarity with the music tells me that a slur is somewhat implied, but I wonder if a slur would help the sight reader. There are a lot of

Re: [Finale] slurs needed over tremolos?

2010-06-30 Thread John Howell
At 6:24 PM -0700 6/30/10, Ryan wrote: I'm waffling back and forth over the need for slurs over fingered tremolos in strings. Example: Whole note C, whole note A, three tremolo beams in between. My familiarity with the music tells me that a slur is somewhat implied, but I wonder if a slur would

[Finale] Finale Slurs - Midi Slurs

2010-05-26 Thread EarlRShay
Does anyone have any idea what settings of slurred notes will translate in an exported midi files to increased duration.  I've made this kind of export before but don't recall the settings.  Can anyone help?  Thanks.  Earl ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Finale Slurs - Midi Slurs

2010-05-26 Thread Richard Warnock
Are you confusing Slurs with Ties? On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:07 AM, earlrs...@aol.com wrote: Does anyone have any idea what settings of slurred notes will translate in an exported midi files to increased duration. I've made this kind of export before but don't recall the settings. Can

[Finale] Slurs NOT Ties

2010-05-26 Thread EarlRShay
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[Finale] Finale Slurs

2010-05-22 Thread EarlRShay
Does anyone have any idea what settings of slurred notes will translate in an exported midi files to increased duration. I've made this kind of export before but don't recall the settings. Can anyone help? Thanks. Earl ___ Finale mailing list

[Finale] Slurs

2009-05-28 Thread Jane Frasier
I have a score that I originally did in Finale several years ago. I don't remember what version. I have opened it in 2008 (I do have 2009 but haven't really used it yet). I think that all the slurs are too high and too rounded. Is there a way to adjust the shape of all the slurs at once?

[Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Using a trick it is possible to attach slurs to rests: Change rest into note, attach slur, change note back into rest. Slur stays there. Question: is there a way to do this without first having to change the rest into a note? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread arabushk
If more than one note is involved before the rest you can slur to the last note, click on the slur, and re-shape it to reach to the rest. Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk Using a trick it is possible to attach slurs to rests: Change rest into note, attach

Re: [Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If more than one note is involved before the rest you can slur to the last note, click on the slur, and re-shape it to reach to the rest. Aaron's method saves the bother of having to switch tools. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 12.06.2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If more than one note is involved before the rest you can slur to the last note, click on the slur, and re-shape it to reach to the rest. Yes, I know that is also possible, but such slurs behave differently when the layout is changed. Johannes --

Re: [Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: dhbailey écrit: Aaron's method saves the bother of having to switch tools. But then when you change the layout you might be in for trouble... Dennis But that goes without saying with any engraver slurs, doesn't it? ;-) As they say, you can do anything notationally with Finale.

Re: [Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread Raymond Horton
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 12.06.2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If more than one note is involved before the rest you can slur to the last note, click on the slur, and re-shape it to reach to the rest. Yes, I know that is also possible, but such slurs behave differently when the layout is

Re: [Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread arabushk
It's a way of emphasizing carrying a phrase into the ensuing silence, as at the end of my bass trombone sonata. Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 12.06.2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If more than one note is involved before the

Re: [Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread Richard Huggins
Perfectly legit. You seem to want the player to take the note to its final millisecond, maybe also to wiggle his horn a bit after ceasing blowing, just to move the infinitesimal last waves of sound to go hurrying after their predecessors before the first audience member coughs. Something

Re: [Finale] slurs attached to rests

2007-06-12 Thread Raymond Horton
dhbailey wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a way of emphasizing carrying a phrase into the ensuing silence, as at the end of my bass trombone sonata. I've seen this notated with a tie from a note to the following rest, never as a slur which continues onto the rest following the final

Re: [Finale] Slurs over system breaks

2007-01-06 Thread Chuck Israels
Dennis, I agree. I must adjust these by hand every time. There is a checkbox in the slur options that says Make Horizontal Over System Break that does absolutely nothing that I have ever been able to see. I raise the trailing end of the exiting slur and the leading edge of the

Re: [Finale] Slurs over system breaks

2007-01-06 Thread John Howell
At 3:32 PM +0100 1/6/07, dc wrote: And then, I don't seem to find much in the reference books on these slurs. Where should the first bit end? Before the final barline of the first system? On it? After it? I always aim for on the final barline. It has to be obvious that the slur continues.

Re: [Finale] Slurs over system breaks

2007-01-06 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Could someone post examples of the wrong way and the right way of this technique? I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Thanks much Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Slurs over system breaks

2007-01-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.01.2007 John Howell wrote: Bach also apparently carried the slur consistently to the first of two tied notes rather than the last, and I advised him to change that because to a violinist every slur is a bowing instruction, and that situation leaves the desired bowing ambiguous. (Yes, I

Re: [Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-13 Thread John Howell
At 9:34 PM -0400 6/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The confusion comes here when two adjacent notes are connected together by something that looks like a tie mark. Notationally, how would you tell the difference? The problem in Finale is that on the simple entry you can turn on the tie option

Re: [Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
The thread is about someone trying to use a tie in place of a slur. A-NO-NE Music wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006/06/09 / 09:34 PM wrote: The confusion comes here when two adjacent notes are connected together by something that looks like a tie mark. Notationally, how would you tell the

Re: [Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-10 Thread dhbailey
A-NO-NE Music wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006/06/09 / 09:34 PM wrote: The confusion comes here when two adjacent notes are connected together by something that looks like a tie mark. Notationally, how would you tell the difference? This thread is most puzzling. The answer to above question

Re: [Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-10 Thread Richard Yates
Apparently the original post concerned a person who mistakenly entered a Finale slur... when they should have used a Finale slur... No wonder Hiro is confused! Can we declare the thread over now? RY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
dhbailey / 2006/06/10 / 07:13 AM wrote: Apparently the original post concerned a person who mistakenly entered a Finale slur (same scale degree, different pitch, such as Fnatural to Fsharp) when they should have used a Finale slur and they complained that the second accidental was hidden by

Re: [Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Jun 2006 at 13:15, A-NO-NE Music wrote: dhbailey / 2006/06/10 / 07:13 AM wrote: Apparently the original post concerned a person who mistakenly entered a Finale slur (same scale degree, different pitch, such as Fnatural to Fsharp) when they should have used a Finale slur and they

Re: [Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:56 PM 6/10/2006, David W. Fenton wrote: On 10 Jun 2006 at 13:15, A-NO-NE Music wrote: dhbailey / 2006/06/10 / 07:13 AM wrote: Apparently the original post concerned a person who mistakenly entered a Finale slur (same scale degree, different pitch, such as Fnatural to Fsharp) when they

[Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-09 Thread billsincl
The confusion comes here when two adjacent notes are connected together by something that looks like a tie mark. Notationally, how would you tell the difference? The problem in Finale is that on the simple entry you can turn on the tie option for a notehead and it will cheerfully connect them

Re: [Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-09 Thread A-NO-NE Music
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006/06/09 / 09:34 PM wrote: The confusion comes here when two adjacent notes are connected together by something that looks like a tie mark. Notationally, how would you tell the difference? This thread is most puzzling. The answer to above question is if the pitches are

Re: [Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-09 Thread Carl Dershem
A-NO-NE Music wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006/06/09 / 09:34 PM wrote: The confusion comes here when two adjacent notes are connected together by something that looks like a tie mark. Notationally, how would you tell the difference? This thread is most puzzling. The answer to above

Re: [Finale] slurs and ties

2006-06-09 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Carl Dershem / 2006/06/09 / 12:07 AM wrote: As far as I can tell, the difference is in the tool being used, and how the software interprets them. On playback, there is a difference. Sorry to be dense, but I still don't understand. What needs to be accomplished and how Finale is not doing so?

[Finale] Slurs and Tab

2006-05-12 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
Title: [Finale] Slurs and Tab Hello wise list, Heres something that I dont anticipate finding a fix for, but I wonder if anyone can muse over why this might have happened. Im working on a two volume project of theorbo and theorbino tablature/transcriptions, and everything looked good at first

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 26 Jan 2006 at 23:09, dc wrote: Johannes Gebauer écrit: That is in obvious disagreement to the manual, and quite frankly, I don't believe it. So what does he say it is for? Actually, he's saying that this feature shouldn't be active for slurs in the present state because it does

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-27 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 1/27/06, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant, does this command have any effect on any smart shapes? Sure it does. Keep Horizontal straightens out hairpins and all smart lines. It might be harder to realize that this is necessary if you've got automatically constrain dragging

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-27 Thread Fisher, Allen
Also if you have Make Horizontal By Default checked in Smart Shape options, you'll never have a need for it either. I do a lot of cleaning up of old files and this comes in quite handy. On 1/27/06 8:19 AM, Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] said this: On 1/27/06, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
Even if your hairpins are horizontal by default, you may still need to check Make Horizontal Over System Breaks if you *move* one of the ends of the hairpin in page view. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 27 Jan 2006, at 9:19 AM, Brad

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-26 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 26.01.2006 dc wrote: MM just replied about the make horizontal over system breaks feature (or potential bug!) for slurs: The engineer agreed that this option should be grayed-out. The documentation is a misprint. He said that it could be a potential feature request to have slurs also

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-26 Thread Michael Cook
I have also written to tech support about this. The replies were strange, to say the least. First the guy (who had better be nameless) wanted me to send a file. I complied, and suggested that either (1) these options should actually do something or (2) they should be grayed out. I got this

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-16 Thread cisraels
I have been away and am behind in responses to the list, but I want to add my 2c to this. This feature has never worked, and I am sorely disappointed about that. Tweaking slurs over system breaks is a royal pain. Chuck -- Original message -- From: Johannes

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Cook
I can't find any situation where these settings make a difference to a slur, note attached or measure attached. I've just got used to manually editing all slurs over system breaks and never bothering with the settings in the context menu. To add to this problem, the setting Maintain Angle

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 11.01.2006 dc wrote: I have a couple of questions on slurs across system breaks (Fin2004). 1) I tried right clicking on one of them (at the end of a system) and selecting Make horizontal and nothing seems to happen, even after updating layout. The very steep angle I had is still there.

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-11 Thread Carolyn Bremer
My guess is that make horizontal applies only to cresc / dim. RIght-clicking (opt-click for Mac) on anything in the slur tools yields the same menu; only some of the adjustments apply to each type of smart shape. -Carolyn On 1/11/06, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11.01.2006 dc

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 11.01.2006 Carolyn Bremer wrote: My guess is that make horizontal applies only to cresc / dim. RIght-clicking (opt-click for Mac) on anything in the slur tools yields the same menu; only some of the adjustments apply to each type of smart shape. Well, according to the manual it should apply

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Jan 2006 at 9:43, Carolyn Bremer wrote: My guess is that make horizontal applies only to cresc / dim. RIght-clicking (opt-click for Mac) on anything in the slur tools yields the same menu; only some of the adjustments apply to each type of smart shape. I suspect that this is exactly

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-11 Thread Carolyn Bremer
Yes, the manual says that you can make a horizontal slur, but what is that? A flat line? I think the manual is misleading, and that the horizontal setting applies only to cresc/dim. I should also add that I'd be happy to stand corrected if someone can ferret out what a horizontal slur is!

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 11.01.2006 Carolyn Bremer wrote: Yes, the manual says that you can make a horizontal slur, but what is that? A flat line? I think the manual is misleading, and that the horizontal setting applies only to cresc/dim. I should also add that I'd be happy to stand corrected if someone can ferret

Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks

2006-01-11 Thread Carolyn Bremer
That makes sense. Thanks, Johannes. -Carolyn On 1/11/06, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11.01.2006 Carolyn Bremer wrote: Yes, the manual says that you can make a horizontal slur, but what is that? A flat line? I think the manual is misleading, and that the horizontal

[Finale] slurs

2005-06-10 Thread Ken Durling
Hi folks - Another question from a newbie. Not a strictly procedural one, but I wonder if someone could briefly outline Finale's - including any plug-ins - approach to slur shapes and terminations. (ISTR hearing about something called a Patterson slur or something like that) It's one of

[Finale] Slurs changing direction

2005-04-06 Thread John Roberts
How do I enter a slur (phrase marking) that changes direction half way (eg for a phrase that starts on piano l.h. and ends on r.h.? Thanks for any help. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Slurs changing direction - thanks

2005-04-06 Thread John Roberts
Thank you John and Thomas - I remembered this as awkward in the past, didn't find it mentioned in Help, and was apparently too timid just to play with the handles! John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Slurs changing direction - thanks

2005-04-06 Thread Robert C L Watson
Thank you John and Thomas - I remembered this as awkward in the past, didn't find it mentioned in Help, ... Could we have the answer posted publicly, please? -Robert C L Watson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Slurs changing direction - thanks

2005-04-06 Thread John Roberts
On 4/6/05 12:17 PM, Robert C L Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could we have the answer posted publicly, please? On 4/6/05 11:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is now relatively easy to create s-shaped slurs. Draw a slur between staves (click the handle if the control

[Finale] slurs

2004-12-08 Thread Michael O'Connor
Here's a good question. How does one create a continued tie or slur into a second (or third) ending? I have FinWin 2001. Mike O * Michael O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of d. collins Sent: Thursday,

Re: [Finale] slurs

2004-12-08 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Michael O'Connor / 04.12.9 / 1:19AM wrote: Here's a good question. How does one create a continued tie or slur into a second (or third) ending? I have FinWin 2001. I don't think it is a valid notation, that ending start comes between a tie, but I have done it with shape tool :-) Slue shouldn't

RE: [Finale] slurs

2004-12-08 Thread Michael O'Connor
I'll try that. Mike O * Michael O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of A-NO-NE Music Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] slurs Michael O'Connor

Re: [Finale] Slurs

2004-10-23 Thread Andrew Stiller
I have my slurs looking just about to my taste over two notes, except in the case of a wide (octave) leap, where the slur seems too flat. Is there anything I should or could change in my settings to make them less flat, without changing the appearance of other slurs? Thanks, Dennis You can

Re: [Finale] Slurs

2004-10-22 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Sure. SmartShape Tool, Smart Shape menu, Smart Slur Options: Maximum slur angle in degrees. Increase to get steeper slurs where appropriate. Johannes d. collins wrote: I have my slurs looking just about to my taste over two notes, except in the case of a wide (octave) leap, where the slur seems

Re: [Finale] Slurs

2004-10-22 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Well, I am not quite sure what you mean. The slur's arc is determined by what you set it to. There are different settings for short, medium, long and extra long slurs. They all need to be set to make all slurs look the way you want. Johannes d. collins wrote: Johannes Gebauer écrit: Sure.

Re: [Finale] Slurs

2004-10-22 Thread Johannes Gebauer
It's possible, though with my slur settings it doesn't seem to make a difference, or, at least, my otherwise critical eye isn't concerned. Johannes d. collins wrote: Let me try to explain otherwise. I have the feeling that Finale measures the length of the slur _horizontally_, without taking