Re: [Finale] Pick-up measures
Owain Sutton wrote: Ken Moore wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David W. Fenton writes: On the other hand, notating it as a full measure with a rest would tend to obscure the upbeatness of the entire measure. Do you have a view on Elgar's Cockaigne overture, the first bar of which starts with three quarter rests? Before making any firm comment, I'd want to establish if this is Elgar's intention, or a later 'acquisition'. In any case, where's the first downbeat of Beethoven 5? If it's impossible to determine, then what should be notated? It's in the very first measure, the one numbered 1 when measures are numbered. It's a complete measure, and there is clearly a downbeat. That nobody is playing on that downbeat is irrelevent. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] editing score and parts
Owain Sutton wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: Or they aren't even trying. I think Finale, with its unlinked templates and unlinked libaries, is terribly flawed at a basic conceptual level My bet is the first notation software which does that (Sibelius, Finale or the newly developping Notion software ... will eventually be the last engraving software standing. It will be such a huge time-saver that everybody using anything else will jump ship and begin using that program. Fully agreed - although I assume the emphatic suggestion of complete conversion refers to a select groups of 'engravers', rather than the wider field of users of notation software? I'm not so sure about that -- composers who write music which have scores and parts and use engraving software such as Finale or Sibelius will benefit from such a feature immensely, not just engravers. I know I am constantly going back to older works of mine and changing things -- it's a real pain to have to also change them in the parts. I think David's idea, if I understand it correctly, of a sort of expanded Special Part Extraction, whereby you turn that on for a selected staff (or group) and get the page layout exactly as you want it, complete with page turns, systems-per-page, everything, and then SAVE that setting uniquely for that staff or group so that every time you turn on special part extraction, those settings are called up and you're set to go with the page layout exactly as the previous time, and with different settings saved for EACH staff or group in a score, is a real winner of an idea! I think the only users of notation software who wouldn't benefit from such a feature would be those who only turn out lead-sheets or keyboard music, anything where parts are never extracted from the original. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] pick-up measure
Owain Sutton wrote: Harold Owen wrote: On Mar 19, 2005, at 6:31 AM, dhbailey wrote: I've also played from published music where only half of the parts had measure numbers (actual counting numbers) and the other half didn't have anything. I am currently rehearsing for a performance of the _Missa Solemnis_. The chorus and orchestra have totally different sets of rehearsal letters, and the orchestra members have had to go thru their parts and pencil in all the choral letters, which are in different places than the orchestra's letters. Andrew Stiller We had the same problem with the choral scores and the instrumental parts for the Fouré Requiem. Hal Slight hijack: Why is it that choirs never seem to be able to use bar numbers, even when provided in their edition? Why do conductors always seem to need to say Orchestra, from bar 68, choir, from 'Qui tollis'...? (Sorry, just got back from a choral-society gig...) ___ Either that, or Chorus, from page 3, second system. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] GPO Studio
Load slot 1 with player one -- then hold shift and load player 2 into same slot. Jerry On 19-Mar-05, at 11:13 PM, John Bell wrote: On 15 Mar 2005, at 14:23, Gerald Berg wrote: John You're in the game now -- the hunt begins in earnest. At this point you have your strings on channels 33-36 Midi channels 1-16 are set for playback in slot 1 (Midi set-up pop down menu) -- channels 17-32 slot 2 etc. -- you can load two players to 1 slot (by holding down shift in midi set-up) -- 2 players = 16 'instances' -- for the second instance however you must MANUALLY change the midi channels in the 2nd player from 1-8 to 9-16. IOW instances 1/2 - channel 1-16 instance 3/4 - 17-32 inst. 4/5 - 33-48 inst. 6/7 - 49-64 Thanks Jerry But I'm afraid I don't follow you. I've now got GPO working fine (FinMac 2005b) and it sounds great. But I can't see how I can load more than 32 patches -- 8 each in Players 1,2,3 4. Holding down shift in midi set-up, err, do you mean while selecting the midi channel? I can't find how this works. I still can't see how I can load more than one instrument into one slot. Sorry to be so dim, I'm clearly misunderstanding you. Unless you're in Windows and there is a platform difference here. John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tweaking Exported Parts
Hi David, You do have to run the plug-in following part extraction, but it's still much more automated than editing all the staff name headers by hand. You need only run it once, and it will fill in the staff name headers for all open documents. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 20 Mar 2005, at 6:47 AM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: On 19 Mar 2005, at 3:59 PM, dhbailey wrote: As for the name of the instrument appearing on all pages following p. 1, there is no automated way for doing that, Actually, there is: Robert Patterson's Copyists Helper plugin. It will even keep track of the *current* instrument name for doubling parts, so you automatically get, e.g., Reed 1 (Flute) pg. 2 and Reed 1 (Sop. Sax) pg. 3 as required. His plug-in works as part of the automatic part extraction? That was the original question. I thought you had to run that after the parts were extracted. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hidden notes, spacing and playback
Don, Put the playback notes in a layer with Affects Music Spacing turned off. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 20 Mar 2005, at 1:15 PM, Don Hart wrote: Hi folks, I would love to hide the notes of a harp gliss written out for playback purposes (smart shape gliss and chord symbol to be printed), have it play back, but have it *not* affect spacing. I can get all these things to happen but, so far, not all at once. I'm aware or the option of creating separate files for playback and printing, but was wondering if there was a reasonable, single file solution. Any thoughts? Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hidden notes, spacing and playback
Thanks, Darcy. Silly me, I was looking in Music Spacing Options. ;-) Don on 3/20/05 12:18 PM, Darcy James Argue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, Put the playback notes in a layer with Affects Music Spacing turned off. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 20 Mar 2005, at 1:15 PM, Don Hart wrote: Hi folks, I would love to hide the notes of a harp gliss written out for playback purposes (smart shape gliss and chord symbol to be printed), have it play back, but have it *not* affect spacing. I can get all these things to happen but, so far, not all at once. I'm aware or the option of creating separate files for playback and printing, but was wondering if there was a reasonable, single file solution. Any thoughts? Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Pick-up measures
In any case, where's the first downbeat of Beethoven 5? If it's impossible to determine, then what should be notated? ___ This reminds me of a point RE that symphony: it's earliest listeners would have had no idea, upon hearing the opening notes, whether the piece was going to be in major or minor mode--and they probably would have assumed the former. The definitive turning to the dark side a few bars in must have been a deliberate effect on B's part, but it's impossible to hear that today, because we know in advance what's coming. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] pick-up measure
On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:24 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: There's a break in the third bar of A. I That brings up another source of confusion: is 3 after A the same measure as the third bar of A, or is it a bar later? It's a rhetorical question, so for heaven's sake, don't answer! I'm just pointing out that people can mean different things by these expressions, and that it causes confusion in reh. sometimes. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger
I currently own: Power Mac G4 (500 MHz) OS X 10.3.5 Finale 2004c EPS export on this system takes forever, which is one of the reasons I'm going to get a new Power Mac G5 soon. I have an orchestral score and parts due September 1, 2005, for which I'd like to use the new Power Mac G5. If anyone can shed any light on the following questions, I would appreciate it: 1. Finale 2005 will probably not work with Tiger, correct? 2. Do you think it's more likely that MM will update Fin05 for Tiger, or that it will just include that compatibility with Fin06? 3. Any idea when Fin06 will likely ship? 4. I think I should order the Power Mac G5 before Tiger comes out (i.e., soon!), since I have this project due in September. Does this sound like a good idea? TIA. Paul Hayden -- Magnolia Music Press http://www.paulhayden.com 6319 Riverbend Blvd. Baton Rouge, LA 70820 Fax (by arrangement) Voice: 225-769-9604 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger
on 3/20/05 2:34 PM, Paul Hayden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I currently own: Power Mac G4 (500 MHz) OS X 10.3.5 Finale 2004c EPS export on this system takes forever, which is one of the reasons I'm going to get a new Power Mac G5 soon. I have an orchestral score and parts due September 1, 2005, for which I'd like to use the new Power Mac G5. If anyone can shed any light on the following questions, I would appreciate it: 1. Finale 2005 will probably not work with Tiger, correct? I'm not sure exactly why you assume this. I am by no means any sort of expert on the subject, but I believe the initial leap from system 9 to system X presented the biggest hurdle for Finale, and that shouldn't be the case now on any sort of regular basis. 2. Do you think it's more likely that MM will update Fin05 for Tiger, or that it will just include that compatibility with Fin06? Again, aside from relatively minor compatibility issues of a normal variety, my expectations for 2005 would be that it's ready to go in Tiger right away. 3. Any idea when Fin06 will likely ship? According to past experience in recent years late summer. 4. I think I should order the Power Mac G5 before Tiger comes out (i.e., soon!), since I have this project due in September. Does this sound like a good idea? TIA. If it were me, knowing what I already know from using 2005 on a G5 with 10.3.8 and using it the way I do, I'd say get the machine right away. I don't, however, really do anything with EPS export. Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Cues over Drum line.
Is it possible, in Win Fin 2001 to put a Small note cue melody line above a drum part which is largely staff style measure or double measure repeats. I have no prob putting a cue line over a drum part, but how do I do it over staff style measure repeats. Cheers, Keith in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger
On 20 Mar 2005, at 3:34 PM, Paul Hayden wrote: 1. Finale 2005 will probably not work with Tiger, correct? I would be very surprised if it did not. Finale 2004 and 2005 both work on Mac OS X 10.2.x and newer -- there's no reason why anyone should expect that 10.4 will break compatibility with these versions. (Which isn't to say it couldn't happen, but it's still pretty unlikely.) 2. Do you think it's more likely that MM will update Fin05 for Tiger, or that it will just include that compatibility with Fin06? I doubt there will be any further updates to Fin2005 after Fin2005b. I would expect Fin2006 to work on Jaguar (10.2), Panther (10.3), and Tiger (10.4). 3. Any idea when Fin06 will likely ship? The updates usually ship in July or August. If Coda follow the model they set out with Fin2005, both PC and Mac versions will ship at the same time on the same CD-ROM. 4. I think I should order the Power Mac G5 before Tiger comes out (i.e., soon!), since I have this project due in September. Does this sound like a good idea? No, that's actually a very bad idea, because then you will have to pay an extra $129 for Tiger when it is released. If you hold off buying your new Mac until 10.4 is released, you will get 10.4 for free -- it will be preinstalled on your computer. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger
On 20 Mar 2005, at 6:06 PM, Eric Dussault wrote: EPS export takes forever on ANY system. I have a PowerMac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz with 1 GB of Ram, and it doesn't make any difference. I think you'd find otherwise if you actually did timed benchmarks of your system versus Paul's system (500 MHz G4). Sure, it will still take forever, but there are different degrees of forever. Paul should get a new system regardless of the EPS export issue. 500 MHz G4 is far too slow to run Finale effectively in OS X. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger
EPS export takes forever on ANY system. I have a PowerMac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz with 1 GB of Ram, and it doesn't make any difference. If you have a big score with all the parts to link with eps, prepare yourself for the worst, it will take a huge amount of your precious time, not even considering the annoying eps export font warning. Even with its great new features, The workflow problems with 2004 force me to use Fin 2002b and 2003a for most of my work. If you think it will make a difference to get a new Mac in term of speed in eps export, you will be disapointed. Éric Dussault Le 05-03-20, à 15:34, Paul Hayden a écrit : EPS export on this system takes forever, which is one of the reasons I'm going to get a new Power Mac G5 soon. I have an orchestral score and parts due September 1, 2005, for which I'd like to use the new Power Mac G5. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Cues over Drum line.
On Mar 20, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote: x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerIs it possible, in Win Fin 2001 to put a Small note cue melody line above a drum part which is largely staff style measure or double measure repeats./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI have no prob putting a cue line over a drum part, but how do I do it over staff style measure repeats./x-tad-bigger I don't actually suggest this, as the one-bar repeat means to literally play the previous bar exactly, whereas you are contradicting that by putting cues in the measure (assuming you mean the drummer to play them!) But this is how: 1) To make Slash Notation, Rhythmic Notation, and One and Two-bar Repeat staff styles show notes in other layers (essential for drum parts!) Select the Staff Tool (looks like a treble clef) Staff Menu>Define Staff Styles Beside Available Styles select Slash Notation Directly below that about two inches is a check box and Alternate Notation. Click on the Select button just below that. In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Add Dots to Slashes in Compound Meters. ALL of them should be checked. Click OK Beside Available Styles select Rhythmic Notation (or One bar repeat, or Two bar repeats) Click on the Select button just below Alternate Notation again In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Stems up in Rhythmic Notation. Check ONLY the first three; leave the stem direction alone. Click OK, Repeat the above paragraph for other styles as necessary, then click OK in the Staff Styles dialogue box. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger
Le 05-03-20, à 18:18, Darcy James Argue a écrit : On 20 Mar 2005, at 6:06 PM, Eric Dussault wrote: EPS export takes forever on ANY system. I have a PowerMac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz with 1 GB of Ram, and it doesn't make any difference. I think you'd find otherwise if you actually did timed benchmarks of your system versus Paul's system (500 MHz G4). Of course your're right. I wasn't meaning that he shouldn't get a new mac, only that he should not expect it to reach pre-2004 eps export speed and productivity. Saying that it doesn't make ANY difference on my set-up was certainly over-stated from my part. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger
on 3/20/05 2:34 PM, Paul Hayden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I currently own: Power Mac G4 (500 MHz) OS X 10.3.5 Finale 2004c EPS export on this system takes forever, which is one of the reasons I'm going to get a new Power Mac G5 soon. I have an orchestral score and parts due September 1, 2005, for which I'd like to use the new Power Mac G5. If anyone can shed any light on the following questions, I would appreciate it: 1. Finale 2005 will probably not work with Tiger, correct? 2. Do you think it's more likely that MM will update Fin05 for Tiger, or that it will just include that compatibility with Fin06? 3. Any idea when Fin06 will likely ship? 4. I think I should order the Power Mac G5 before Tiger comes out (i.e., soon!), since I have this project due in September. Does this sound like a good idea? TIA. I recently migrated from a relatively slow G4 to a 2.5GHz G5 and the difference is spectacular. Finale fairly whizzes along. I've no reason to suppose that Finale won't be compatible with Tiger. In the past it didn't have problems going from OS7 to 8 or 9. I think ordering the G5 soon makes sense. You'll zip through your new score and parts. John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Cues over Drum line.
Thanks you Christopher. My rationale is I have a two bar bolero rhythm going on and the melodic cue is merely to advise the drummer as to where he is up to- not for him to ever play the cue. Thanks for info! Cheers K in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Monday, 21 March 2005 10:56 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Cues over Drum line. On Mar 20, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote: Is it possible, in Win Fin 2001 to put a Small note cue melody line above a drum part which is largely staff style measure or double measure repeats. I have no prob putting a cue line over a drum part, but how do I do it over staff style measure repeats. I don't actually suggest this, as the one-bar repeat means to literally play the previous bar exactly, whereas you are contradicting that by putting cues in the measure (assuming you mean the drummer to play them!) But this is how: 1) To make Slash Notation, Rhythmic Notation, and One and Two-bar Repeat staff styles show notes in other layers (essential for drum parts!) Select the Staff Tool (looks like a treble clef) Staff MenuDefine Staff Styles Beside Available Styles select Slash Notation Directly below that about two inches is a check box and Alternate Notation. Click on the Select button just below that. In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Add Dots to Slashes in Compound Meters. ALL of them should be checked. Click OK Beside Available Styles select Rhythmic Notation (or One bar repeat, or Two bar repeats) Click on the Select button just below Alternate Notation again In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Stems up in Rhythmic Notation. Check ONLY the first three; leave the stem direction alone. Click OK, Repeat the above paragraph for other styles as necessary, then click OK in the Staff Styles dialogue box. Christopher -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Cues over Drum line.
Hey Keith, One thing I forgot to mention -- no matter if you use slashes or two-bar repeats, you should label the ensemble cues with CUE ONLY - DON'T PLAY. The first time through, the drummer will still try to play them, but at least you will have something to point to on his part when you stop the band. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 20 Mar 2005, at 8:05 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Keith, The standard solution in this case -- which I would really recommend you adopt instead of two-bar repeats -- is to write out two bars of the bolero rhythm, then use slash notation after that, with a cont. sim. indication, and ensemble cues above the staff. There are all kinds of problems with using 2-bar repeats instead of slash marks. Chris already mentioned one of them. Another is that it's very difficult to *read* cues above the staff without slash marks inside the staff showing where the beats are. Also, with your method, the cued notes are going be colliding with the 2 symbol in the two-bar repeat all over the place. You're really much better off using slash marks. In some cases, the standard solution really is the standard solution for a reason. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 20 Mar 2005, at 7:16 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote: Thanks you Christopher. My rationale is I have a two bar bolero rhythm going on and the melodic cue is merely to advise the drummer as to where he is up to- not for him to ever play the cue. Thanks for info! Cheers K in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Monday, 21 March 2005 10:56 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Cues over Drum line. On Mar 20, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote: Is it possible, in Win Fin 2001 to put a Small note cue melody line above a drum part which is largely staff style measure or double measure repeats. I have no prob putting a cue line over a drum part, but how do I do it over staff style measure repeats. I don't actually suggest this, as the one-bar repeat means to literally play the previous bar exactly, whereas you are contradicting that by putting cues in the measure (assuming you mean the drummer to play them!) But this is how: 1) To make Slash Notation, Rhythmic Notation, and One and Two-bar Repeat staff styles show notes in other layers (essential for drum parts!) Select the Staff Tool (looks like a treble clef) Staff MenuDefine Staff Styles Beside Available Styles select Slash Notation Directly below that about two inches is a check box and Alternate Notation. Click on the Select button just below that. In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Add Dots to Slashes in Compound Meters. ALL of them should be checked. Click OK Beside Available Styles select Rhythmic Notation (or One bar repeat, or Two bar repeats) Click on the Select button just below Alternate Notation again In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Stems up in Rhythmic Notation. Check ONLY the first three; leave the stem direction alone. Click OK, Repeat the above paragraph for other styles as necessary, then click OK in the Staff Styles dialogue box. Christopher -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Cues over Drum line.
Keith, The standard solution in this case -- which I would really recommend you adopt instead of two-bar repeats -- is to write out two bars of the bolero rhythm, then use slash notation after that, with a cont. sim. indication, and ensemble cues above the staff. There are all kinds of problems with using 2-bar repeats instead of slash marks. Chris already mentioned one of them. Another is that it's very difficult to *read* cues above the staff without slash marks inside the staff showing where the beats are. Also, with your method, the cued notes are going be colliding with the 2 symbol in the two-bar repeat all over the place. You're really much better off using slash marks. In some cases, the standard solution really is the standard solution for a reason. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 20 Mar 2005, at 7:16 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote: Thanks you Christopher. My rationale is I have a two bar bolero rhythm going on and the melodic cue is merely to advise the drummer as to where he is up to- not for him to ever play the cue. Thanks for info! Cheers K in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Monday, 21 March 2005 10:56 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Cues over Drum line. On Mar 20, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote: Is it possible, in Win Fin 2001 to put a Small note cue melody line above a drum part which is largely staff style measure or double measure repeats. I have no prob putting a cue line over a drum part, but how do I do it over staff style measure repeats. I don't actually suggest this, as the one-bar repeat means to literally play the previous bar exactly, whereas you are contradicting that by putting cues in the measure (assuming you mean the drummer to play them!) But this is how: 1) To make Slash Notation, Rhythmic Notation, and One and Two-bar Repeat staff styles show notes in other layers (essential for drum parts!) Select the Staff Tool (looks like a treble clef) Staff MenuDefine Staff Styles Beside Available Styles select Slash Notation Directly below that about two inches is a check box and Alternate Notation. Click on the Select button just below that. In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Add Dots to Slashes in Compound Meters. ALL of them should be checked. Click OK Beside Available Styles select Rhythmic Notation (or One bar repeat, or Two bar repeats) Click on the Select button just below Alternate Notation again In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Stems up in Rhythmic Notation. Check ONLY the first three; leave the stem direction alone. Click OK, Repeat the above paragraph for other styles as necessary, then click OK in the Staff Styles dialogue box. Christopher -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger
Darcy James Argue / 05.3.20 / 05:37 PM wrote: No, that's actually a very bad idea, because then you will have to pay an extra $129 for Tiger when it is released. If you hold off buying your new Mac until 10.4 is released, you will get 10.4 for free -- it will be preinstalled on your computer. Hmm, I have nothing personally against you, Darcy. In fact, I am even looking forward to come hear your band sometime. But we are constantly having opposite opinions. I just can't expect to work with Tiger right away. I stop subscribing ADC so I have to make line to get Tiger on the release date, which I did for Panther, but I keep it on my play-ground partition, while I still use Panther for my real jobs. That has been the way it is. It has been my policy that I do not trust anything first generation comes from Apple. If you wait for a machine that doesn't run Panther, and you find some of your app won't run reliably with Tiger, you are done. For my line of work, Tiger is introducing multiple CA instances. This will give some impact on DAW, that is my bread and butter. I don't expect I will be working under Tiger right away. P.S. Did I tell you I bought G5 Dual 2.5GHz a month ago? Boy. I used to print X-Noise, or I get CPU choke-up. Yesterday, I actually instantiated 12 X-Noise in real-time, and cpu hit is still 45%!!! -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger
Hi Hiro, Paul said he wanted Tiger (OS X 10.4). I understand your reasons for *not* wanting to install Tiger right away, but Paul said he wants it. And if you did want Tiger, it would be a bad idea to buy a new computer now instead of after Tiger is released, because you'll end up having to pay $129 for the OS upgrade. That's all I'm saying. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 20 Mar 2005, at 9:30 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Darcy James Argue / 05.3.20 / 05:37 PM wrote: No, that's actually a very bad idea, because then you will have to pay an extra $129 for Tiger when it is released. If you hold off buying your new Mac until 10.4 is released, you will get 10.4 for free -- it will be preinstalled on your computer. Hmm, I have nothing personally against you, Darcy. In fact, I am even looking forward to come hear your band sometime. But we are constantly having opposite opinions. I just can't expect to work with Tiger right away. I stop subscribing ADC so I have to make line to get Tiger on the release date, which I did for Panther, but I keep it on my play-ground partition, while I still use Panther for my real jobs. That has been the way it is. It has been my policy that I do not trust anything first generation comes from Apple. If you wait for a machine that doesn't run Panther, and you find some of your app won't run reliably with Tiger, you are done. For my line of work, Tiger is introducing multiple CA instances. This will give some impact on DAW, that is my bread and butter. I don't expect I will be working under Tiger right away. P.S. Did I tell you I bought G5 Dual 2.5GHz a month ago? Boy. I used to print X-Noise, or I get CPU choke-up. Yesterday, I actually instantiated 12 X-Noise in real-time, and cpu hit is still 45%!!! -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
