Robert, Robert, I get your point, you don't have to repeat yourself. I really
think we both want the same thing: to understand what is motivating the
student/caller, to find out what he/she really wants. And I do understand that
when someone calls tech-support with a problem that has been
Hi Robert,
Well, it certainly seems to have made _you_ go ballistic (or am I misreading
you?) ;-)
But I can't agree with you on this one. In over 40 years of teaching, I've
found the question Why would you want to do that — which, by the way, comes
across much friendlier face-to-face than in
Ah, perhaps in teaching it is a valuable question. In tech support it is
impertinent.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Eric Fiedler eric.f.fied...@t-online.dewrote:
Hi Robert,
Well, it certainly seems to have made _you_ go ballistic (or am I
misreading you?) ;-)
But I can't agree with you on
On Aug 30, 2012, at 1:17 AM, Eric Fiedler eric.f.fied...@t-online.de wrote:
But I can't agree with you on this one. In over 40 years of teaching, I've
found the question Why would you want to do that — which, by the way, comes
across much friendlier face-to-face than in the cold world of
At this point, I recommend we all give a moment of silence to the memory of
David Fenton. I feel sure he would have contributed something deliciously
abrasive to this conversation. Now that he is gone, I miss him.
R.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote:
On
On 8/30/2012 4:59 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
At this point, I recommend we all give a moment of silence to the memory of
David Fenton. I feel sure he would have contributed something deliciously
abrasive to this conversation. Now that he is gone, I miss him.
Funny you should say that -- I
+1
On Aug 30, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
wrote:
At this point, I recommend we all give a moment of silence to the memory of
David Fenton. I feel sure he would have contributed something deliciously
abrasive to this conversation. Now that he is gone, I miss
On 8/28/2012 11:27 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hey all,
I have an unusual request from a client -- is it possible to change the order
of staves in a score for a selected system only? Obviously this can't be done
merely by dragging, and reordering in the Score Manager is global.
I don't
I've done this by faking it.
An extra staff above or below then copy and paste and hide in all other
systems.
Steve P.
On 29 Aug 2012, at 04:27, Darcy James Argue djar...@mac.com wrote:
Hey all,
I have an unusual request from a client -- is it possible to change the order
of staves in
Hi Steve,
Yes, I ended up having to add 4 extra staves at the bottom of the score, hidden
in all other systems. I was hoping to avoid this but I don't think there's
another solution, is there?
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
On 29 Aug 2012, at 7:16 AM, Steve
I've never found one... but then three or so years after switching to Finale
for daily work I'm still faking and kludging like a trooper...
Steve P.
On 29 Aug 2012, at 12:49, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote:
Hi Steve,
Yes, I ended up having to add 4 extra staves at the bottom
The more I use the Score Manager, the more outraged I become. The inability
to drag staves to a different order is one I recently discovered. It is a
completely artificial limitation, nonexistent in versions before Fin12, and
still just a UI limitation even now.
But this is the tip of the
The only problem will be the linked parts, so this is a case where
for at least that instrument where you need to correct the part to
show all the notes on a single staff you'll most likely have to
extract that part and correct it in the extracted part file.
i have not tried this, but i think
On 2012-08-29 14:38, Robert Patterson wrote:
The more I use the Score Manager, the more outraged I become. The inability
to drag staves to a different order is one I recently discovered. It is a
completely artificial limitation, nonexistent in versions before Fin12, and
still just a UI
Hi Jef,
This is pretty much what I did, except I used the Force Hide Staff (Collapse)
- In Score Only option, which allows me to skip a couple of steps (i.e., set
the next lower staff to 0 EVPU distance and clear the staff style from
current part only).
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB:
Strange ... I just spent 10 minutes using the Score Manager to reorder the
staves (vertically) in a score sent to me by a student (FinMac 2012 non b). Or
have I not understood the problem?
Eric
Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler)
Hi Eric,
Using the Score Manager reorders the staves on EVERY system. As I said, I need
to reorder the staves on one system only, leaving the rest of the score
unaffected.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
On 29 Aug 2012, at 11:57 AM, Eric Fiedler wrote:
Strange
Hi Darcy,
Right. I knew that. (I won't even ask WHY the customer wants this. Don't
score-readers have enough problems? Seems pretty strange to me, but what do I
know ...) I thought Robert had been complaining about the overall reordering of
systems.
Eric
There are any number of reasons why you might want to change the score
order on different systems. The main one I can think of is if in a
particular section or movement there is a subgroup that plays a concertino
part.
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Eric Fiedler
Hi Robert,
That's pretty much the situation here, though it's an extreme case -- only four
instruments in the orchestra are conducted, the rest play in free tempo. So the
conductor (quite reasonably) would like the four instruments that he's actually
conducting grouped together on those pages.
i don't know why darcy needs it, but this is not such a strange
request. i could think of several reasons why you might need to do
this in new music. different groupings of instruments in a section
of a piece to better show the pairings; or the supplementary staff
you use for a single-staff
Are we talking here about a number of movements grouped together in one large
file? Then I could understand possibly wanting new score-orders for each
movement — and it wouldn't be too difficult using a lot of disappearing blank
staves, as I think has already been suggested on this thread. But
Eric, the worst question to ask someone (if you are providing tech support
or if you are developing software) is any variant of, Why would you want
to do that? It drives users ballistic. A much better question (that
usually gets to the same answer) is, Can you explain to me what you are
trying to
Hi Eric,
It's not just one page. I thought of your solution, but I dislike those types
of kludges, and setting up the new staves and hiding them everywhere they are
not needed was actually not as cumbersome as I'd feared.
Regarding TGTools Staff List Manager, the displacements are very far and
Hey all,
I have an unusual request from a client -- is it possible to change the order
of staves in a score for a selected system only? Obviously this can't be done
merely by dragging, and reordering in the Score Manager is global.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
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