Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-27 Thread Francesco Rizzo
an understand > what you are saying? > > > Sung > > > -- > *From:* Fis on behalf of Francesco Rizzo < > 13francesco.ri...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:11 AM > *To:* y...@pku.edu.cn > *Cc:* FIS Group > > *Subject:* Re: [Fi

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-21 Thread Francesco Rizzo
tual leap from networks, information, > communication, and language to sound? > > Koichiro: Focusing upon languaging comes to shed light on the > communication in time between whatever parties. > > > > Best wishes, > > Xueshan > > > > *From:* Stanley N Sa

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-21 Thread Xueshan Yan
inghamton.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 11:44 PM To: y...@pku.edu.cn Subject: Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory Xueshan -- My {language {signal {information}}} is meant apply only to a system that has language. That is, my assertion would be

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-14 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
olar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYJ&hl=en -- Original Message -- From: "Koichiro Matsuno" To: "Fis," Sent: 2/15/2018 5:53:23 AM Subject: Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory On 8 Feb 2018 at 4:05 PM, Loet

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-14 Thread Koichiro Matsuno
On 8 Feb 2018 at 4:05 PM, Loet Leydesdorff wrote: >From a biological perspective, not language itself, but “languaging” behavior >is considered the system of reference. On 13 Feb 2018 at 7:01 PM, Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic wrote: As in biology thre are different kinds of organisms there are also

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-14 Thread Guy A Hoelzer
tion Science Information Science Cc : Terry Deacon; Christophe Menant Objet : Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory Hi All, I want to pick on Christophe’s post to make a general plea about FIS posting. This is not a comment on meaning generation by agents.

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-14 Thread Christophe Menant
] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory Hi All, I want to pick on Christophe’s post to make a general plea about FIS posting. This is not a comment on meaning generation by agents. Christophe wrote: "Keeping in mind that communications exist only be

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-14 Thread Christophe Menant
; Terrence W. DEACON Cc : FIS Group Objet : RE: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory Dear Christophé I think you hit on a most interesting problem of how to establish interpretation and agency in a philosophical framework that is compatible trans

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-13 Thread Søren Brier
: 13. februar 2018 14:20 To: Terrence W. DEACON Cc: FIS Group Subject: Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory Dear Terry and FISers, It looks indeed reasonable to position the term 'language' as ‘simply referring to the necessity of a sha

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-13 Thread Guy A Hoelzer
Hi All, I want to pick on Christophe’s post to make a general plea about FIS posting. This is not a comment on meaning generation by agents. Christophe wrote: "Keeping in mind that communications exist only because agents need to manage meanings for given purposes”. This seems to imply that

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-13 Thread Christophe Menant
vero Objet : Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory To claim that: "without a language, no communication would be possible" one must be using the term "language" in a highly metaphoric sense. Is scent marking a language?

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-13 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
s, pleae let me know. All the best. Sung (My time is out. I am signing out in a hurry.) From: Fis mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es>> on behalf of Xueshan Yan mailto:y...@pku.edu.cn>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 6:31 AM To: FIS Group Cc: 'Jose Javier Blan

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-12 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
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Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-12 Thread Karl Javorszky
t;>> As for any information transmission system, if we pay more attention to >>>> its transmission carrier instead of its transmission content, we are used >>>> to employing "signal transmission" instead of "signal transduction". From >>>> the tradit

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-12 Thread Xueshan Yan
o.ri...@gmail.com> 13francesco.ri...@gmail.com>; Terrence W. DEACON < <mailto:dea...@berkeley.edu> dea...@berkeley.edu> Cc: Fis, < <mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es> fis@listas.unizar.es> Subject: Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry t

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-12 Thread Mark Johnson
t;> 1. Do Plants Think? (June 5, 2012, *Scientific American*) >>> >>> (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-plants-think-d >>> aniel-chamovitz/#rd?sukey=fc78a68049a14bb24ce82efd8ef931e640 >>> 57ce6142b1f2f7b919612d2b3f42c07f559f5be33be0881613ccfbf5b43c4b) >>> >>> 2. Pla

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-11 Thread Alex Hankey
Sungchul-Ji, What about information theories that belong to different categories, i.e. other than the category of sets, and which, equally have different Omega Structures in their corresponding Topos? Best wishes, Alex On 7 February 2018 at 19:16, Sungchul Ji wrote: > Hi FISers, > > > On 10

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-10 Thread Howard Bloom
Space Society. Founding Board Member: Epic of Evolution Society. Founding Board Member, The Darwin Project. -Original Message- From: Xueshan Yan To: FIS Group Sent: Sat, Feb 10, 2018 3:23 am Subject: Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-10 Thread tozziarturo
k-feel-and-learn > > > ) > > > > > > From which we can judge whether or not a plants informatics > > > can exists. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > &

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-10 Thread Karl Javorszky
e0881613ccfbf5b43c4b) >> >> 2. Plants Can Think, Feel and Learn (December 3, 2014, *New Scientist*) >> >> (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22429980-400-root-int >> elligence-plants-can-think-feel-and-learn) >> >> From which we can judge whether or not a

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-10 Thread Stanley N Salthe
we can judge whether or not a plants informatics can exists. > > > > Best wishes, > > Xueshan > > > > *From:* fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] > *On Behalf Of *Sungchul Ji > *Sent:* Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:10 PM > *To:* Fra

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-10 Thread Xueshan Yan
judge whether or not a plants informatics can exists. Best wishes, Xueshan From: fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Sungchul Ji Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:10 PM To: Francesco Rizzo <13francesco.ri...@gmail.com>; Terrence W. DEACON Cc: Fis

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-08 Thread Sungchul Ji
; Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 2:56:11 AM To: Terrence W. DEACON Cc: Fis,; Sungchul Ji Subject: Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory Caro Terry estensibile a tutti, è sempre un piacere leggerTi e capirTi. La general theory of information è

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-07 Thread Francesco Rizzo
Caro Terry estensibile a tutti, è sempre un piacere leggerTi e capirTi. La general theory of information è preceduta da un sistema (o semiotica) di significazione e seguita da un sistema (o semiotica ) di comunicazione. Tranne che quando si ha un processo comunicativo come il passaggio di un Segna

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-07 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Terry and colleagues, In the Biology of Language and Knowledge, Maturana (1978, pp. 56 ff.) considered the biologist using biological discourse a super-observer, analytically to be distinguished from the languaging animals under study. He formulated as follows: Human beings can talk a

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-07 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Dear FISers, In previous posts I have disparaged using language as the base model for building a general theory of information. Though I realize that this may seem almost heretical, it is not a claim that all those who use linguistic analogies are wrong, only that it can be causally misleading. I

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-07 Thread Jose Javier Blanco Rivero
In principle I agree with Terry. I have been thinking of this, though I am still not able to make a sound formulation of the idea. Still I am afraid that if I miss the chance to make at least a brief formulation of it I will lose the opportunity to make a brainstorming with you. So, here it comes:

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-07 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
tion of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory Hi FISers, On 10/8/2017, Terry wrote: " So basically, I am advocating an effort to broaden our discussions and recognize that the term information applies in diverse ways to many different contexts. And because of this it is impor

[Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-07 Thread Sungchul Ji
Hi FISers, On 10/8/2017, Terry wrote: " So basically, I am advocating an effort to broaden our discussions and recognize that the term information applies in diverse ways to many different contexts. And because of this it is important to indicate the framing, whether physical, formal, biolo