[Flashcoders] UIScrollbar
Hi, I am looking at skinning a List for a touchscreen device and reading the doc's for CS4 skinning it seems to imply that I cannot change the width of a vertical scrollbar. Does anyone know of any workarounds for this as people using the touchscreen don't tend to have mouse-pointer sized fingers (nice one Adobe!) GLen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
i know you can load external mp3 files in flash, but is it possible to load a library (if that is the right term) of wav files in flash? the app i want to make involves loops, and mp3 files are not real good for loops. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] UIScrollbar
Hi, Think I have found a solution using Grant Skinners hack for the Scrollbar component detailed here. http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2007/05/variable_scroll.html Glen On 29/04/2010 09:51, Glen Pike wrote: Hi, I am looking at skinning a List for a touchscreen device and reading the doc's for CS4 skinning it seems to imply that I cannot change the width of a vertical scrollbar. Does anyone know of any workarounds for this as people using the touchscreen don't tend to have mouse-pointer sized fingers (nice one Adobe!) GLen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
If you are talking about sound imported into the Library in IDE, you can assign a Class name to it and instantiate it as normal: var snd:Sound = new LibaraySound(); snd.play(); ...etc. -- Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ On 29 April 2010 10:35, Jim Andrews j...@vispo.com wrote: i know you can load external mp3 files in flash, but is it possible to load a library (if that is the right term) of wav files in flash? the app i want to make involves loops, and mp3 files are not real good for loops. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
Sorry. I should have been more specific. What I'd like to do is create an external file that contains a bunch of wav files. Perhaps a bunch of such such groups of wav files. And then, at run-time, the user may select one of those groups of wav files. And then the program should download that particular file. Is that sort of thing supported in Flash? In Director, such groups of wav files (and/or other media) can be stored in .cst files and downloaded at run-time. ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: kennethkawam...@gmail.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files? If you are talking about sound imported into the Library in IDE, you can assign a Class name to it and instantiate it as normal: var snd:Sound = new LibaraySound(); snd.play(); ...etc. -- Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ On 29 April 2010 10:35, Jim Andrews j...@vispo.com wrote: i know you can load external mp3 files in flash, but is it possible to load a library (if that is the right term) of wav files in flash? the app i want to make involves loops, and mp3 files are not real good for loops. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
Hi, You could compile the wav files into SWF's that you load as runtime libraries - then you could still instanciate your sounds the same way as Kenneth said. You have to use a Loader class load the external SWF in and wait for the Loader's INIT event before accessing library items. You may also have to set the Loader's application domain to the same as your application in order to instanciate the sounds: Search for runtime library in flash. Glen On 29/04/2010 12:25, Jim Andrews wrote: Sorry. I should have been more specific. What I'd like to do is create an external file that contains a bunch of wav files. Perhaps a bunch of such such groups of wav files. And then, at run-time, the user may select one of those groups of wav files. And then the program should download that particular file. Is that sort of thing supported in Flash? In Director, such groups of wav files (and/or other media) can be stored in .cst files and downloaded at run-time. ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: kennethkawam...@gmail.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files? If you are talking about sound imported into the Library in IDE, you can assign a Class name to it and instantiate it as normal: var snd:Sound = new LibaraySound(); snd.play(); ...etc. -- Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ On 29 April 2010 10:35, Jim Andrews j...@vispo.com wrote: i know you can load external mp3 files in flash, but is it possible to load a library (if that is the right term) of wav files in flash? the app i want to make involves loops, and mp3 files are not real good for loops. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
I would set it up using XML. I think the trick to loading MP3s and having them loop is to preload them. Then figure out how long till the sound plays and how long is left after the sound ends to the end of the track. Time your next song in line to start playing before the other ends at the right point to where the current ends the next in line has had time to get to the point where its sound starts. Then do a little DJing utilizing some kind of fade of the volumes. :) You could even have them overlap some to have that cross-fade effect. If anyone has a better suggestion, I am all ears as well. Best, Karl On Apr 29, 2010, at 6:25 AM, Jim Andrews wrote: Sorry. I should have been more specific. What I'd like to do is create an external file that contains a bunch of wav files. Perhaps a bunch of such such groups of wav files. And then, at run-time, the user may select one of those groups of wav files. And then the program should download that particular file. Is that sort of thing supported in Flash? In Director, such groups of wav files (and/or other media) can be stored in .cst files and downloaded at run-time. ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: kennethkawam...@gmail.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files? If you are talking about sound imported into the Library in IDE, you can assign a Class name to it and instantiate it as normal: var snd:Sound = new LibaraySound(); snd.play(); ...etc. -- Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ On 29 April 2010 10:35, Jim Andrews j...@vispo.com wrote: i know you can load external mp3 files in flash, but is it possible to load a library (if that is the right term) of wav files in flash? the app i want to make involves loops, and mp3 files are not real good for loops. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] How to hault execution and raise a error flag
Hi, I was wondering how can I put the execution of a application to a hault and raise a error flag ( maybe quite everything) so it does not move anywhere further. I have some logical errors which do not cause troubles in the execution, but I still want to stop execution when they occur. For debugging purposes. Fahim Akhter Game Developer | White Rabbit Studios | http://apps.facebook.com/feline-frenzy/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
A generic object has no meaning, you lose typecasting and all the
benefits of using a custom class, like for example, code completion.
Remember anonymous functions in AS1/2 and why they were bad? It's not
quite as bad to use generic objects, but still not good practice IMO.
With VOs, you know what properties it contains, and that's very useful
in situations, like for example, when you attach data to an event and
want to use it on the other end. Believe me, VOs are worth the slight
extra effort they are to create.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our
Instructional Technology Design Blog
(note: these are for Bank of America employees only)
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Cor
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 4:23 PM
To: 'Flash Coders List'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Hi Jason,
Thank you.
So the personVO.as should look like this:
package
{
class PersonVO
{
public var firstName:String;
public var lastName:String;
public var phoneNumber:Number;
public var indicatorColor:uint;
}
}
Now I think I understand what you are doing, but I lost to see the
benefit of the VO over doing it with a generic Object.
Because it is now in a public array I can address everything.
Like this:
var personVO:PersonVO = new Object();
personVO.firstName = personnodex...@firstname; etc..
Or maybe I don't understand the VO concept???
Regards
Cor
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: maandag 26 april 2010 15:52
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Could you extend this with an example on the part of:
I typically do is load in XML data and create VOs from that (in my
Model
class) to use in my app.
Sure. Here is an example of what the parsing might look like inside
your model class. If your XML looked like this:
xml
people
person firstName=Hank lastName=Aaron
phoneNumber=7043237564 indicatorColor=0xe39132 /
person firstName=Fred lastName=Astaire
phoneNumber=9082321214 indicatorColor=0xe73721 /
person firstName=Judy lastName=Garland
phoneNumber=3107382234 indicatorColor=0xd4e355 /
person firstName=Marilyn lastName=Monroe
phoneNumber=3107673721 indicatorColor=0xbab5ab /
/people
/xml
Then inside your model class, you may have some code like this (which of
course would run after the XML is loaded):
public var personVOs:Array = []; //array of PersonVOs
private function createPersonVOs():void
{
for each (var personNodeXML:XML in myXML.people.person)
{
var personVO:PersonVO = new PersonVO();
personVO.firstName = personnodex...@firstname;
personVO.lastName = personnodex...@lastname;
personVO.phoneNumber =
Number(personnodex...@phonenumber);
personVO.indicatorColor =
uint(personnodex...@indicatorcolor);
personVOs.push(personVO);
}
}
So now, you have personVOs as a public property in your model you can
call and get the people information from their VO class. Does that
help?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our
Instructional Technology Design Blog
(note: these are for Bank of America employees only)
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Cor
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:53 AM
To: 'Flash Coders List'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Hi Jason,
Nice explaination!
Thanks!
Could you extend this with an example on the part of:
I typically do is load in XML data and create VOs from that (in my
Model
class) to use in my app.
Kind regards
Cor van Dooren
The Netherlands
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to hault execution and raise a error flag
You could try in your logic to use a case switch. Then break on error. --Original Message-- From: Fahim Akhter Sender: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com To: Flash Coders List ReplyTo: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] How to hault execution and raise a error flag Sent: Apr 29, 2010 7:13 AM Hi, I was wondering how can I put the execution of a application to a hault and raise a error flag ( maybe quite everything) so it does not move anywhere further. I have some logical errors which do not cause troubles in the execution, but I still want to stop execution when they occur. For debugging purposes. Fahim Akhter Game Developer | White Rabbit Studios | http://apps.facebook.com/feline-frenzy/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Yup - using VOs now - and I have produced documentation with VisDoc that
include them as well. Thanks everyone.
Eric
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Merrill, Jason
jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote:
A generic object has no meaning, you lose typecasting and all the
benefits of using a custom class, like for example, code completion.
Remember anonymous functions in AS1/2 and why they were bad? It's not
quite as bad to use generic objects, but still not good practice IMO.
With VOs, you know what properties it contains, and that's very useful
in situations, like for example, when you attach data to an event and
want to use it on the other end. Believe me, VOs are worth the slight
extra effort they are to create.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our
Instructional Technology Design Blog
(note: these are for Bank of America employees only)
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Cor
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 4:23 PM
To: 'Flash Coders List'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Hi Jason,
Thank you.
So the personVO.as should look like this:
package
{
class PersonVO
{
public var firstName:String;
public var lastName:String;
public var phoneNumber:Number;
public var indicatorColor:uint;
}
}
Now I think I understand what you are doing, but I lost to see the
benefit of the VO over doing it with a generic Object.
Because it is now in a public array I can address everything.
Like this:
var personVO:PersonVO = new Object();
personVO.firstName = personnodex...@firstname; etc..
Or maybe I don't understand the VO concept???
Regards
Cor
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: maandag 26 april 2010 15:52
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Could you extend this with an example on the part of:
I typically do is load in XML data and create VOs from that (in my
Model
class) to use in my app.
Sure. Here is an example of what the parsing might look like inside
your model class. If your XML looked like this:
xml
people
person firstName=Hank lastName=Aaron
phoneNumber=7043237564 indicatorColor=0xe39132 /
person firstName=Fred lastName=Astaire
phoneNumber=9082321214 indicatorColor=0xe73721 /
person firstName=Judy lastName=Garland
phoneNumber=3107382234 indicatorColor=0xd4e355 /
person firstName=Marilyn lastName=Monroe
phoneNumber=3107673721 indicatorColor=0xbab5ab /
/people
/xml
Then inside your model class, you may have some code like this (which of
course would run after the XML is loaded):
public var personVOs:Array = []; //array of PersonVOs
private function createPersonVOs():void
{
for each (var personNodeXML:XML in myXML.people.person)
{
var personVO:PersonVO = new PersonVO();
personVO.firstName = personnodex...@firstname;
personVO.lastName = personnodex...@lastname;
personVO.phoneNumber =
Number(personnodex...@phonenumber);
personVO.indicatorColor =
uint(personnodex...@indicatorcolor);
personVOs.push(personVO);
}
}
So now, you have personVOs as a public property in your model you can
call and get the people information from their VO class. Does that
help?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our
Instructional Technology Design Blog
(note: these are for Bank of America employees only)
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Cor
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:53 AM
To: 'Flash Coders List'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Hi Jason,
Nice explaination!
Thanks!
Could you extend this with an example on the part of:
I typically do is load in XML data and create VOs from that (in my
Model
class) to use in my app.
Kind regards
Cor van Dooren
The Netherlands
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to hault execution and raise a error flag
breaking an error would just hault the loop. Or that perticular place and it would come to the parent and go on with the rest of the program. Fahim Akhter Game Developer | White Rabbit Studios | http://apps.facebook.com/feline-frenzy/ On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.comwrote: You could try in your logic to use a case switch. Then break on error. --Original Message-- From: Fahim Akhter Sender: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com To: Flash Coders List ReplyTo: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] How to hault execution and raise a error flag Sent: Apr 29, 2010 7:13 AM Hi, I was wondering how can I put the execution of a application to a hault and raise a error flag ( maybe quite everything) so it does not move anywhere further. I have some logical errors which do not cause troubles in the execution, but I still want to stop execution when they occur. For debugging purposes. Fahim Akhter Game Developer | White Rabbit Studios | http://apps.facebook.com/feline-frenzy/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
Aha. That'd be the ticket. Thanks very much, Glen. ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files? Hi, You could compile the wav files into SWF's that you load as runtime libraries - then you could still instanciate your sounds the same way as Kenneth said. You have to use a Loader class load the external SWF in and wait for the Loader's INIT event before accessing library items. You may also have to set the Loader's application domain to the same as your application in order to instanciate the sounds: Search for runtime library in flash. Glen On 29/04/2010 12:25, Jim Andrews wrote: Sorry. I should have been more specific. What I'd like to do is create an external file that contains a bunch of wav files. Perhaps a bunch of such such groups of wav files. And then, at run-time, the user may select one of those groups of wav files. And then the program should download that particular file. Is that sort of thing supported in Flash? In Director, such groups of wav files (and/or other media) can be stored in .cst files and downloaded at run-time. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] gapless looping of external mp3's
This might work to achieve gapless looping: Once you've loaded the audio assets (an mp3 file, swf file library assets, etc.), copy the raw sound data into a ByteArray. Then to play it back you create a duplicate of that ByteArray and feed it to a new Sound object when it throws it's SampleDataEvent event. Once you've used up the ByteArray, duplicate it again and keep feeding it to the Sound object. I've been messing around with this, off and on, for a while to try and loop a simple sine wave audio data that I've generated. It works pretty well, except that I always get a little 'pop' whenever the next loop starts.. possibly because the phase of the end of the previous loop doesn't match the start of the next one. -- Andrew Murphy Interactive Media Developer amur...@delvinia.com Delvinia 370 King Street West, 5th Floor, Box 4 Toronto Canada M5V 1J9 P (416) 364-1455 ext. 232 F (416) 364-9830 W www.delvinia.com -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Jim Andrews Sent: April 29, 2010 01:52 am To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] gapless looping of external mp3's I'm new to the list. Does anyone have experience with gapless looping of external mp3's in Flash? I'm having probs with it. I read http://www.compuphase.com/mp3/mp3loops.htm . There's even a section in there about gapless looping in Flash. But I'm not sure how old that page is and if there are better methods now than what's described there. I have done some previous work with gapless looping, but it was all in Director, such as at http://vispo.com/nio and http://vispo.com/jig/arteroids . I'm just learning ActionScript now. ja ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
If you create an mp3 in SoundBooth or Sound Forge and loop it, even in those environments, you see that simply creating an mp3 introduces some silence at the beginning and end of the file. Even if the mp3 was made from a perfectly gapless looping wav file, the mp3 will have a gap in it. Consequently, if one wants to use external mp3's in Flash (or any other program) things get a bit tricky. I've read a couple of good docs on this at http://blog.andre-michelle.com/2010/playback-mp3-loop-gapless/#more-590 http://www.compuphase.com/mp3/mp3loops.htm The first URL contains some excellent ActionScript code for gaplessly looping an mp3--as long as you know the total number of samples in the wav file from which the mp3 was made. This code was written by Andre Michelle, probably one of the main people who made http://audiotool.com , which is a very impressive Flash audio app. The second URL is very good also, but after investigating it quite a bit, my conclusion is Andre Michelle's code is the way to go if you want to gaplessly loop external mp3 sounds. But, again, this presupposes that you know the total number of samples in the wav from which the mp3 was made. A good alternative, which I haven't tried yet, is to create external SWF files that contain groups of wav files, let the user select which group they want to use, download the SWF, and use it as per Glen and Kenneth's suggestions in this thread. ja http://vispo.com ps: Here are some interesting online interactive audio apps: http://vispo.com/misc/ia.htm - Original Message - From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files? I would set it up using XML. I think the trick to loading MP3s and having them loop is to preload them. Then figure out how long till the sound plays and how long is left after the sound ends to the end of the track. Time your next song in line to start playing before the other ends at the right point to where the current ends the next in line has had time to get to the point where its sound starts. Then do a little DJing utilizing some kind of fade of the volumes. :) You could even have them overlap some to have that cross-fade effect. If anyone has a better suggestion, I am all ears as well. Best, Karl ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] gapless looping of external mp3's
That's basically what Andre Michelle is doing with his code at http://blog.andre-michelle.com/2010/playback-mp3-loop-gapless/#more-590 , Andrew. ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: Andrew Murphy amur...@delvinia.com To: 'Flash Coders List' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:28 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gapless looping of external mp3's This might work to achieve gapless looping: Once you've loaded the audio assets (an mp3 file, swf file library assets, etc.), copy the raw sound data into a ByteArray. Then to play it back you create a duplicate of that ByteArray and feed it to a new Sound object when it throws it's SampleDataEvent event. Once you've used up the ByteArray, duplicate it again and keep feeding it to the Sound object. I've been messing around with this, off and on, for a while to try and loop a simple sine wave audio data that I've generated. It works pretty well, except that I always get a little 'pop' whenever the next loop starts.. possibly because the phase of the end of the previous loop doesn't match the start of the next one. -- Andrew Murphy Interactive Media Developer amur...@delvinia.com Delvinia 370 King Street West, 5th Floor, Box 4 Toronto Canada M5V 1J9 P (416) 364-1455 ext. 232 F (416) 364-9830 W www.delvinia.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
i know there has already been a lot of talk about flash and iphones/ipads and developer agreements on this list and i don't wish to add unnecessarily or stoke up the fire again but i thought this might be a worthwhile read for all from the man at the centre of it all: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
In addition, Flash has not performed well on mobile devices. We have routinely asked Adobe to show us Flash performing well on a mobile device, any mobile device, for a few years now. We have never seen it. isn't this just utter B.S.? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] gapless looping of external mp3's
Yep, this looks like it.. though with added code for dealing with silence added to the MP3 during encoding. :) -- Andrew Murphy Interactive Media Developer amur...@delvinia.com Delvinia 370 King Street West, 5th Floor, Box 4 Toronto Canada M5V 1J9 P (416) 364-1455 ext. 232 F (416) 364-9830 W www.delvinia.com -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Jim Andrews Sent: April 29, 2010 10:09 am To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] gapless looping of external mp3's That's basically what Andre Michelle is doing with his code at http://blog.andre-michelle.com/2010/playback-mp3-loop-gapless/#more-590 , Andrew. ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: Andrew Murphy amur...@delvinia.com To: 'Flash Coders List' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:28 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gapless looping of external mp3's This might work to achieve gapless looping: Once you've loaded the audio assets (an mp3 file, swf file library assets, etc.), copy the raw sound data into a ByteArray. Then to play it back you create a duplicate of that ByteArray and feed it to a new Sound object when it throws it's SampleDataEvent event. Once you've used up the ByteArray, duplicate it again and keep feeding it to the Sound object. I've been messing around with this, off and on, for a while to try and loop a simple sine wave audio data that I've generated. It works pretty well, except that I always get a little 'pop' whenever the next loop starts.. possibly because the phase of the end of the previous loop doesn't match the start of the next one. -- Andrew Murphy Interactive Media Developer amur...@delvinia.com Delvinia 370 King Street West, 5th Floor, Box 4 Toronto Canada M5V 1J9 P (416) 364-1455 ext. 232 F (416) 364-9830 W www.delvinia.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
I think some of his comments about Flash not being designed for Touch devices have a ring of truth to them, for example, I develop for a touchscreen system and have written many custom components without rollovers. I can't really comment on battery life, web-video, etc. because I do all my browsing from a PC and only watch videos stuff that's plugged in. This morning, I found myself hacking cellrenderers and making special workarounds for Flash's list control in order to implement a list that scrolled when you swipe it. This is not multi-touch, just single touch, but still there is either a derth of components / tutorials / documentation for doing this sort of stuff. OTOH, I managed to develop my own list control in Flash for the Touchscreen in under 8 hours without having to learn another language. I guess I am one of the lucky people - I work on a proprietary touch-screen based system supplied to specific customers and don't have to bend to the whims of the iPhone generation / market forces as much as if I was developing websites and RIA's and one of the 50,000+ games in the App store. Can you call it a game if it is merely a graphic of a pint glass tipping beer? Glen On 29/04/2010 15:18, David Hunter wrote: i know there has already been a lot of talk about flash and iphones/ipads and developer agreements on this list and i don't wish to add unnecessarily or stoke up the fire again but i thought this might be a worthwhile read for all from the man at the centre of it all:http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
Funny, Jobs makes no mention of Silverlight anywhere in that article. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of David Hunter Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:19 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash i know there has already been a lot of talk about flash and iphones/ipads and developer agreements on this list and i don't wish to add unnecessarily or stoke up the fire again but i thought this might be a worthwhile read for all from the man at the centre of it all: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
The extra effort is no problem.
The way of using VOs in MVC is where my lack of knowledge lays, and I am
trying to learn it...
And you are helping very well on the way.
I just need those little (working) examples to get me on track of fully
understanding.
And sometimes technical stuff is extra difficult because English is not my
native language.
Thanks again, Jason.
And of course all other participants!
Regards
Cor
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: donderdag 29 april 2010 14:24
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
A generic object has no meaning, you lose typecasting and all the
benefits of using a custom class, like for example, code completion.
Remember anonymous functions in AS1/2 and why they were bad? It's not
quite as bad to use generic objects, but still not good practice IMO.
With VOs, you know what properties it contains, and that's very useful
in situations, like for example, when you attach data to an event and
want to use it on the other end. Believe me, VOs are worth the slight
extra effort they are to create.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our
Instructional Technology Design Blog
(note: these are for Bank of America employees only)
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Cor
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 4:23 PM
To: 'Flash Coders List'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Hi Jason,
Thank you.
So the personVO.as should look like this:
package
{
class PersonVO
{
public var firstName:String;
public var lastName:String;
public var phoneNumber:Number;
public var indicatorColor:uint;
}
}
Now I think I understand what you are doing, but I lost to see the
benefit of the VO over doing it with a generic Object.
Because it is now in a public array I can address everything.
Like this:
var personVO:PersonVO = new Object();
personVO.firstName = personnodex...@firstname; etc..
Or maybe I don't understand the VO concept???
Regards
Cor
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: maandag 26 april 2010 15:52
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Could you extend this with an example on the part of:
I typically do is load in XML data and create VOs from that (in my
Model
class) to use in my app.
Sure. Here is an example of what the parsing might look like inside
your model class. If your XML looked like this:
xml
people
person firstName=Hank lastName=Aaron
phoneNumber=7043237564 indicatorColor=0xe39132 /
person firstName=Fred lastName=Astaire
phoneNumber=9082321214 indicatorColor=0xe73721 /
person firstName=Judy lastName=Garland
phoneNumber=3107382234 indicatorColor=0xd4e355 /
person firstName=Marilyn lastName=Monroe
phoneNumber=3107673721 indicatorColor=0xbab5ab /
/people
/xml
Then inside your model class, you may have some code like this (which of
course would run after the XML is loaded):
public var personVOs:Array = []; //array of PersonVOs
private function createPersonVOs():void
{
for each (var personNodeXML:XML in myXML.people.person)
{
var personVO:PersonVO = new PersonVO();
personVO.firstName = personnodex...@firstname;
personVO.lastName = personnodex...@lastname;
personVO.phoneNumber =
Number(personnodex...@phonenumber);
personVO.indicatorColor =
uint(personnodex...@indicatorcolor);
personVOs.push(personVO);
}
}
So now, you have personVOs as a public property in your model you can
call and get the people information from their VO class. Does that
help?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our
Instructional Technology Design Blog
(note: these are for Bank of America employees only)
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Cor
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:53 AM
To: 'Flash Coders List'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Hi Jason,
Nice explaination!
Thanks!
Could you extend this with an example on the part of:
I typically do is load in XML data and create VOs from that (in my
Model
class) to use in my app.
Kind regards
Cor van Dooren
The Netherlands
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
What's Silverlight? On 29/04/2010 15:51, Merrill, Jason wrote: Funny, Jobs makes no mention of Silverlight anywhere in that article. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of David Hunter Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:19 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash i know there has already been a lot of talk about flash and iphones/ipads and developer agreements on this list and i don't wish to add unnecessarily or stoke up the fire again but i thought this might be a worthwhile read for all from the man at the centre of it all: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
I think that's a new-fangled fishing lure used for freshwater carp or something. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.ukwrote: What's Silverlight? On 29/04/2010 15:51, Merrill, Jason wrote: Funny, Jobs makes no mention of Silverlight anywhere in that article. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of David Hunter Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:19 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash i know there has already been a lot of talk about flash and iphones/ipads and developer agreements on this list and i don't wish to add unnecessarily or stoke up the fire again but i thought this might be a worthwhile read for all from the man at the centre of it all: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- http://ericd.net Interactive design and development ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
On 29/04/2010 15:51, Merrill, Jason wrote: Funny, Jobs makes no mention of Silverlight anywhere in that article. :) If he's talking specifically about Flash, why would he? Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
If he's talking specifically about Flash, why would he? Switched off your irony detector today? Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
I thought it was an elven character from LOTR? On 29/04/2010 16:15, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: I think that's a new-fangled fishing lure used for freshwater carp or something. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Glen Pikeg...@engineeredarts.co.ukwrote: ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
this basically sums up why apple don't support flash Another Adobe claim is that Apple devices cannot play Flash games. This is true. Fortunately, there are over 50,000 games and entertainment titles on the App Store, and many of them are free. in other words 'we don't want you to play flash games, we want you to play apple games which we get paid for, especially when we bring out our iAd platform that will monetise the free apps as well' FUD Don Jobbso a On 29 April 2010 16:20, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: I thought it was an elven character from LOTR? On 29/04/2010 16:15, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: I think that's a new-fangled fishing lure used for freshwater carp or something. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Glen Pikeg...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to hault execution and raise a error flag
Hi Fahim, It sounds like you want, at the point in the code in which the condition is reached, throw new Error(Description of the condition that is causing me to halt execution ...); You can subclass Error to get more fine grained classes describing various undesirable states if that's helpful. If this is new to you try googling 'actionscript try catch'. You need to be running your code in the debug player for execution to halt, and to see the error. Best, Josh From: Fahim Akhter akhter.fa...@gmail.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 5:13:33 AM Subject: [Flashcoders] How to hault execution and raise a error flag Hi, I was wondering how can I put the execution of a application to a hault and raise a error flag ( maybe quite everything) so it does not move anywhere further. I have some logical errors which do not cause troubles in the execution, but I still want to stop execution when they occur. For debugging purposes. Fahim Akhter Game Developer | White Rabbit Studios | http://apps.facebook.com/feline-frenzy/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
On 29/04/2010 16:17, Merrill, Jason wrote: If he's talking specifically about Flash, why would he? Switched off your irony detector today? All detectors switched off by extreme fatigue right now. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
Jim Andrews wrote: i know you can load external mp3 files in flash, but is it possible to load a library (if that is the right term) of wav files in flash? the app i want to make involves loops, and mp3 files are not real good for loops. Hi Jim, Coming a bit late to the conversation, but I did exactly that for some music education games. We had to have seamless playback of multiple audio files, and mp3 just doesn't cut it. I put my .aiff files into one Flash file, set the linkage, and downloaded the swf at run time. When the swf download was finished, I instantiated instances of the .aiff files. I can send you some code if you like (it's a little to long to post in a message). Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
The way of using VOs in MVC is where my lack of knowledge lays
VOs are not specific to the MVC pattern, they are just a good way to
handle related data, period.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our
Instructional Technology Design Blog
(note: these are for Bank of America employees only)
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Cor
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:58 AM
To: 'Flash Coders List'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
The extra effort is no problem.
The way of using VOs in MVC is where my lack of knowledge lays, and I am
trying to learn it...
And you are helping very well on the way.
I just need those little (working) examples to get me on track of fully
understanding.
And sometimes technical stuff is extra difficult because English is not
my native language.
Thanks again, Jason.
And of course all other participants!
Regards
Cor
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: donderdag 29 april 2010 14:24
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
A generic object has no meaning, you lose typecasting and all the
benefits of using a custom class, like for example, code completion.
Remember anonymous functions in AS1/2 and why they were bad? It's not
quite as bad to use generic objects, but still not good practice IMO.
With VOs, you know what properties it contains, and that's very useful
in situations, like for example, when you attach data to an event and
want to use it on the other end. Believe me, VOs are worth the slight
extra effort they are to create.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our
Instructional Technology Design Blog
(note: these are for Bank of America employees only)
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Cor
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 4:23 PM
To: 'Flash Coders List'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Hi Jason,
Thank you.
So the personVO.as should look like this:
package
{
class PersonVO
{
public var firstName:String;
public var lastName:String;
public var phoneNumber:Number;
public var indicatorColor:uint;
}
}
Now I think I understand what you are doing, but I lost to see the
benefit of the VO over doing it with a generic Object.
Because it is now in a public array I can address everything.
Like this:
var personVO:PersonVO = new Object();
personVO.firstName = personnodex...@firstname; etc..
Or maybe I don't understand the VO concept???
Regards
Cor
-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: maandag 26 april 2010 15:52
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Quick question about dynamic groupings
Could you extend this with an example on the part of:
I typically do is load in XML data and create VOs from that (in my
Model
class) to use in my app.
Sure. Here is an example of what the parsing might look like inside
your model class. If your XML looked like this:
xml
people
person firstName=Hank lastName=Aaron
phoneNumber=7043237564 indicatorColor=0xe39132 /
person firstName=Fred lastName=Astaire
phoneNumber=9082321214 indicatorColor=0xe73721 /
person firstName=Judy lastName=Garland
phoneNumber=3107382234 indicatorColor=0xd4e355 /
person firstName=Marilyn lastName=Monroe
phoneNumber=3107673721 indicatorColor=0xbab5ab /
/people
/xml
Then inside your model class, you may have some code like this (which of
course would run after the XML is loaded):
public var personVOs:Array = []; //array of PersonVOs
private function createPersonVOs():void
{
for each (var personNodeXML:XML in myXML.people.person)
{
var personVO:PersonVO = new PersonVO();
personVO.firstName = personnodex...@firstname;
personVO.lastName = personnodex...@lastname;
personVO.phoneNumber =
Number(personnodex...@phonenumber);
personVO.indicatorColor =
uint(personnodex...@indicatorcolor);
personVOs.push(personVO);
}
}
So now, you have personVOs as a public property in your model you can
call and get the people information from their VO class. Does that
help?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
RE: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
I think his comment was that many Flash sites were not designed for touch screens, not that Flash itself is not designed for touch screens. Even then it isn't really a fair comment since the vast majority of web experiences were not designed with touch screen interactivity in mind. -- Andrew Murphy Interactive Media Developer amur...@delvinia.com Delvinia 370 King Street West, 5th Floor, Box 4 Toronto Canada M5V 1J9 P (416) 364-1455 ext. 232 F (416) 364-9830 W www.delvinia.com -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pike Sent: April 29, 2010 10:41 am To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash I think some of his comments about Flash not being designed for Touch devices have a ring of truth to them, for example, I develop for a touchscreen system and have written many custom components without rollovers. I can't really comment on battery life, web-video, etc. because I do all my browsing from a PC and only watch videos stuff that's plugged in. This morning, I found myself hacking cellrenderers and making special workarounds for Flash's list control in order to implement a list that scrolled when you swipe it. This is not multi-touch, just single touch, but still there is either a derth of components / tutorials / documentation for doing this sort of stuff. OTOH, I managed to develop my own list control in Flash for the Touchscreen in under 8 hours without having to learn another language. I guess I am one of the lucky people - I work on a proprietary touch-screen based system supplied to specific customers and don't have to bend to the whims of the iPhone generation / market forces as much as if I was developing websites and RIA's and one of the 50,000+ games in the App store. Can you call it a game if it is merely a graphic of a pint glass tipping beer? Glen On 29/04/2010 15:18, David Hunter wrote: i know there has already been a lot of talk about flash and iphones/ipads and developer agreements on this list and i don't wish to add unnecessarily or stoke up the fire again but i thought this might be a worthwhile read for all from the man at the centre of it all:http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
I would love to see a Thoughts on Apple letter from Adobe. :) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
I would love to see a Thoughts on Apple letter from Adobe. :) This is close enough: http://mashable.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-apple/ :D ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
this basically sums up why apple don't support flash Another Adobe claim is that Apple devices cannot play Flash games. This is true. Fortunately, there are over 50,000 games and entertainment titles on the App Store, and many of them are free. in other words 'we don't want you to play flash games, we want you to play apple games which we get paid for, especially when we bring out our iAd platform that will monetise the free apps as well' FUD Don Jobbso This is exactly right. It's a business decision - a sound one - but that's all it is. It has nothing to do with protecting the user experience etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
Pity it's US only, would have been nice to see, but it's not from Adobe though! Apple have thrown down the gauntlet - it may be FUD, but it's from Steve Jobs / Apple and that's better than any speculation from other sources. I guess I would like to see Adobe be able to respond to this without coming across as bitter about Apple's decisions, tough for a blow to potential revenue streams, but maybe Adobe do need a bit of motivation to ensure their products are slick and stable as well as being pervasive. People like to slate both Adobe Apple, sometimes it might make sense for both companies to listen to the jungle drums and move forward. Micky Hulse wrote: I would love to see a Thoughts on Apple letter from Adobe. :) This is close enough: http://mashable.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-apple/ :D ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
The problem is that pretty much all of that has already been responded to a while ago. Steve Jobs is only repeating what has already been echoing among people who want to rationalize the fact that iP* doesn't have Flash, like this stupid rollover/hover discussion. If Adobe is to respond to that, they'd been repeating what has already been said my Mike Chambers, Lee Brimelow and others -- preaching to the choir, in a way, since Mac fanatics who already made up their mind won't ever get to that or allow any logic to intrude their argument. Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is the right thing to do. Adobe apparently has done so. This letter is just Steve's way to say 'no wait, let's fight more'. In 5 years we'll see the state in which mobile/online UI technology is and we'll see who won -- past the FUD, past the hyperbole, past the lies. I, for one, can't wait. Zeh On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Glen Pike postmas...@glenpike.co.ukwrote: Pity it's US only, would have been nice to see, but it's not from Adobe though! Apple have thrown down the gauntlet - it may be FUD, but it's from Steve Jobs / Apple and that's better than any speculation from other sources. I guess I would like to see Adobe be able to respond to this without coming across as bitter about Apple's decisions, tough for a blow to potential revenue streams, but maybe Adobe do need a bit of motivation to ensure their products are slick and stable as well as being pervasive. People like to slate both Adobe Apple, sometimes it might make sense for both companies to listen to the jungle drums and move forward. Micky Hulse wrote: I would love to see a Thoughts on Apple letter from Adobe. :) This is close enough: http://mashable.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-apple/ :D ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
He talks about Flash being yesterday's tech, but that statement makes me wonder if he's ever coded in Objective-C. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
Zeh Fernando wrote: Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is the right thing to do. Me too. I don't have the time to spare just now, but if I did, I'd be writing Android apps. I see a whole lot of upside there for Flash programmers. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is the right thing to do. I'll third that. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
And here is the TRUE reason Apple wants to kill flash: Apple may charge $1 million to display mobile ads: report http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63S0IE20100429 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is the right thing to do. I'll third that. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Carl Welch http://www.carlwelch.com 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
On 4/29/10 2:35 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is the right thing to do. I'll third that. I've been preaching at our company to continue to do Flash graphics for our news site. But those graphics are targeted to our desktop users. The iPhone users get a site that isn't built to handle graphics like that. The iPad users get a customized site as well. Now we can say our desktop users have their own product :) Brian Mays ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
Coming a bit late to the conversation, but I did exactly that for some music education games. We had to have seamless playback of multiple audio files, and mp3 just doesn't cut it. I put my .aiff files into one Flash file, set the linkage, and downloaded the swf at run time. When the swf download was finished, I instantiated instances of the .aiff files. I can send you some code if you like (it's a little to long to post in a message). Cordially, Kerry Thompson Hi Kerry. Nice to see you in this forum! Sure, I'd appreciate the code. Thanks very much. Also, can you tell me why you're working with .aiff files rather than, say, .wav files? I have never worked with .aiff files. I don't know anything about them. How do they compare with .wav files? ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Return of the Blue Lego
Return of the Blue Lego Posted at Apr 9, 10 by Grant Skinner « Colorgasm Music Visuali... | BitmapSlice9: Scale9 fo... » As some people have noticed, Apple has eliminated the blue lego icon that indicates a missing plugin on the iPad. I believe that this is a not so subtle way of shifting users from believing that the iPad browser is lacking something, to believing that the site they are viewing is broken. In response to this, I've created the blueLego edition of SWFObject 2.2. It works exactly the same as regular SWFObject, except it will display the blue lego icon, with a link to Adobe's get Flash Player page on iPhone, iPod, and iPad. As of April 13, this page correctly displays content explaining to iPad users why Flash is unavailable on their device. This is the same content shown on the iPhone, which is described here. You're obviously free to modify the iDevice alternate content or the code itself to suit your own needs. It is released under the MIT license, and you can download it by clicking here. Whether it is useful for production or not, I leave to you. It was created more as a statement than anything. You can test it by pointing your iDevice browser to this url: http://gskinner.com/playpen/bluelego/ http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2010/04/return_of_the_b.html ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
Does HTML 5 do anything about the basically non-existant audio API in HTML? I gather that the canvas tag was Apple's proposal. How does it compare with the graphical abilities of Flash or Director? Microsoft has not implemented the canvas tag. Is the canvas tag in the W3C HTML 5 spec? And how does the canvas tag compare with the ideas around SVG, which seems like a competing graphical API? In an ideal world, we could use 'open' tools with 'open' standards to create our apps. But what we have, instead, are corporations struggling with one another for business turf/markets. I've been a Director programmer for over ten years. Seeing what Adobe is doing with Director, I have no allegiance to Adobe. Eventually it will be Flash's turn to suffer the same fate. As go these big corporations and their products, so goes my work and your work? Then it's only a matter of time before it all becomes data trash. By no means an ideal situation any way you look at it. I was attracted to Director cuz I could do things with it that I couldn't do with any other tools. Flash is now the more popular and contemporary tool for doing these sorts of things. And it has equalled Director in various (though not all) ways. So I'm learning Flash. But I wonder if it'll all be data trash in twenty years. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
The best thing for Adobe to do right now is get flash player up to STELLAR performance, even by Apples standards and then refuse to put it on the iPhone. That would just be funny. When flash is benchmarking html5 under the table, then adobe will have some barganing chips if you will. I dont agree with Jobs attitude but flash could use a performance update on adobe's end. Since the majority of smart phones are leaning towards touch, it may be time to graduate. Not to mention the fact that touch screen computers and keyboards are on their way. We don't want flash to not be able to work on regular desktops. But I hope/am thinking Adobe is already on this one and it will be some time before touch is standard. Maybe add a displays.touch class to the IDE? Is there a way currently to check if a computer uses touch? I am thinking not but stand to be corrected. Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Brian Mays bm...@newsok.com wrote: On 4/29/10 2:35 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is the right thing to do. I'll third that. I've been preaching at our company to continue to do Flash graphics for our news site. But those graphics are targeted to our desktop users. The iPhone users get a site that isn't built to handle graphics like that. The iPad users get a customized site as well. Now we can say our desktop users have their own product :) Brian Mays ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
not sure about audio. but here is a good but long introduction to some of the features of HTML 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siOHh0uzcuY . from memory i think SVG is good for drawing and simple interaction, canvas is for more complex stuff with a lot of javascript. I think canvas is in everything except IE. From: j...@vispo.com To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:06:46 -0700 Does HTML 5 do anything about the basically non-existant audio API in HTML? I gather that the canvas tag was Apple's proposal. How does it compare with the graphical abilities of Flash or Director? Microsoft has not implemented the canvas tag. Is the canvas tag in the W3C HTML 5 spec? And how does the canvas tag compare with the ideas around SVG, which seems like a competing graphical API? In an ideal world, we could use 'open' tools with 'open' standards to create our apps. But what we have, instead, are corporations struggling with one another for business turf/markets. I've been a Director programmer for over ten years. Seeing what Adobe is doing with Director, I have no allegiance to Adobe. Eventually it will be Flash's turn to suffer the same fate. As go these big corporations and their products, so goes my work and your work? Then it's only a matter of time before it all becomes data trash. By no means an ideal situation any way you look at it. I was attracted to Director cuz I could do things with it that I couldn't do with any other tools. Flash is now the more popular and contemporary tool for doing these sorts of things. And it has equalled Director in various (though not all) ways. So I'm learning Flash. But I wonder if it'll all be data trash in twenty years. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/19780/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
Mobile and desktop performance is already above and beyond what HTML5 can do: http://themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2010/03/22/ http://vimeo.com/10553088 Touch events/gestures/points are supported by FP 10.1 so I'm pretty sure we'll have a way to see whether any of those are actually present. I'd say that as you get past the kicking and screaming and the lack of Apple support, Flash is in a very comfortable position and bound for a brilliant future. Zeh On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.comwrote: The best thing for Adobe to do right now is get flash player up to STELLAR performance, even by Apples standards and then refuse to put it on the iPhone. That would just be funny. When flash is benchmarking html5 under the table, then adobe will have some barganing chips if you will. I dont agree with Jobs attitude but flash could use a performance update on adobe's end. Since the majority of smart phones are leaning towards touch, it may be time to graduate. Not to mention the fact that touch screen computers and keyboards are on their way. We don't want flash to not be able to work on regular desktops. But I hope/am thinking Adobe is already on this one and it will be some time before touch is standard. Maybe add a displays.touch class to the IDE? Is there a way currently to check if a computer uses touch? I am thinking not but stand to be corrected. Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Brian Mays bm...@newsok.com wrote: On 4/29/10 2:35 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is the right thing to do. I'll third that. I've been preaching at our company to continue to do Flash graphics for our news site. But those graphics are targeted to our desktop users. The iPhone users get a site that isn't built to handle graphics like that. The iPad users get a customized site as well. Now we can say our desktop users have their own product :) Brian Mays ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Return of the Blue Lego
I love it. Thanks! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Matt S. mattsp...@gmail.com wrote: Return of the Blue Lego Posted at Apr 9, 10 by Grant Skinner « Colorgasm Music Visuali... | BitmapSlice9: Scale9 fo... » As some people have noticed, Apple has eliminated the blue lego icon that indicates a missing plugin on the iPad. I believe that this is a not so subtle way of shifting users from believing that the iPad browser is lacking something, to believing that the site they are viewing is broken. In response to this, I've created the blueLego edition of SWFObject 2.2. It works exactly the same as regular SWFObject, except it will display the blue lego icon, with a link to Adobe's get Flash Player page on iPhone, iPod, and iPad. As of April 13, this page correctly displays content explaining to iPad users why Flash is unavailable on their device. This is the same content shown on the iPhone, which is described here. You're obviously free to modify the iDevice alternate content or the code itself to suit your own needs. It is released under the MIT license, and you can download it by clicking here. Whether it is useful for production or not, I leave to you. It was created more as a statement than anything. You can test it by pointing your iDevice browser to this url: http://gskinner.com/playpen/bluelego/ http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2010/04/return_of_the_b.html ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Carl Welch http://www.carlwelch.com 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
@Zeh Thanks for the links. Good to know. I have investied a LOT of time in flash, as have many others. :) Karl On Apr 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Zeh Fernando wrote: Mobile and desktop performance is already above and beyond what HTML5 can do: http://themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2010/03/22/ http://vimeo.com/10553088 Touch events/gestures/points are supported by FP 10.1 so I'm pretty sure we'll have a way to see whether any of those are actually present. I'd say that as you get past the kicking and screaming and the lack of Apple support, Flash is in a very comfortable position and bound for a brilliant future. Zeh On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.comwrote: The best thing for Adobe to do right now is get flash player up to STELLAR performance, even by Apples standards and then refuse to put it on the iPhone. That would just be funny. When flash is benchmarking html5 under the table, then adobe will have some barganing chips if you will. I dont agree with Jobs attitude but flash could use a performance update on adobe's end. Since the majority of smart phones are leaning towards touch, it may be time to graduate. Not to mention the fact that touch screen computers and keyboards are on their way. We don't want flash to not be able to work on regular desktops. But I hope/am thinking Adobe is already on this one and it will be some time before touch is standard. Maybe add a displays.touch class to the IDE? Is there a way currently to check if a computer uses touch? I am thinking not but stand to be corrected. Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Brian Mays bm...@newsok.com wrote: On 4/29/10 2:35 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is the right thing to do. I'll third that. I've been preaching at our company to continue to do Flash graphics for our news site. But those graphics are targeted to our desktop users. The iPhone users get a site that isn't built to handle graphics like that. The iPad users get a customized site as well. Now we can say our desktop users have their own product :) Brian Mays ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
Steve Jobs will be dead before Flash - don't worry. *Beatrix Kruemmer-Frau* Dipl. Ing. Designer|CEH-LPIG-1 Flash/Flex Developer Network Security Administrator Blog http://www.blog.dieanstalt.com Twitter http://twitter.com/Birikini Xing http://www.xing.com/profile/Beatrix_KruemmerFrau LinkenID http://de.linkedin.com/in/beatrixkruemmerfrau Am 30.04.2010 00:41, schrieb Karl DeSaulniers: @Zeh Thanks for the links. Good to know. I have investied a LOT of time in flash, as have many others. :) Karl On Apr 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Zeh Fernando wrote: Mobile and desktop performance is already above and beyond what HTML5 can do: http://themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2010/03/22/ http://vimeo.com/10553088 Touch events/gestures/points are supported by FP 10.1 so I'm pretty sure we'll have a way to see whether any of those are actually present. I'd say that as you get past the kicking and screaming and the lack of Apple support, Flash is in a very comfortable position and bound for a brilliant future. Zeh On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.comwrote: The best thing for Adobe to do right now is get flash player up to STELLAR performance, even by Apples standards and then refuse to put it on the iPhone. That would just be funny. When flash is benchmarking html5 under the table, then adobe will have some barganing chips if you will. I dont agree with Jobs attitude but flash could use a performance update on adobe's end. Since the majority of smart phones are leaning towards touch, it may be time to graduate. Not to mention the fact that touch screen computers and keyboards are on their way. We don't want flash to not be able to work on regular desktops. But I hope/am thinking Adobe is already on this one and it will be some time before touch is standard. Maybe add a displays.touch class to the IDE? Is there a way currently to check if a computer uses touch? I am thinking not but stand to be corrected. Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Brian Mays bm...@newsok.com wrote: On 4/29/10 2:35 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is the right thing to do. I'll third that. I've been preaching at our company to continue to do Flash graphics for our news site. But those graphics are targeted to our desktop users. The iPhone users get a site that isn't built to handle graphics like that. The iPad users get a customized site as well. Now we can say our desktop users have their own product :) Brian Mays ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Return of the Blue Lego
Thats great.. Weird thing though, when I went to that link the first time on my iPhone, it took me to a different adobe page that said it couldn't pull up the url because of too many redirects and then took me to download flash. I had to hit back and touch the blue lego about three times before it showed that apple message you made. FYI. I am on a 2G iPhone with 3.1OS. Karl On Apr 29, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Matt S. wrote: Return of the Blue Lego Posted at Apr 9, 10 by Grant Skinner « Colorgasm Music Visuali... | BitmapSlice9: Scale9 fo... » As some people have noticed, Apple has eliminated the blue lego icon that indicates a missing plugin on the iPad. I believe that this is a not so subtle way of shifting users from believing that the iPad browser is lacking something, to believing that the site they are viewing is broken. In response to this, I've created the blueLego edition of SWFObject 2.2. It works exactly the same as regular SWFObject, except it will display the blue lego icon, with a link to Adobe's get Flash Player page on iPhone, iPod, and iPad. As of April 13, this page correctly displays content explaining to iPad users why Flash is unavailable on their device. This is the same content shown on the iPhone, which is described here. You're obviously free to modify the iDevice alternate content or the code itself to suit your own needs. It is released under the MIT license, and you can download it by clicking here. Whether it is useful for production or not, I leave to you. It was created more as a statement than anything. You can test it by pointing your iDevice browser to this url: http://gskinner.com/playpen/bluelego/ http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2010/04/return_of_the_b.html ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Return of the Blue Lego
You, lol I meant Grant Skinner. Karl On Apr 29, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Thats great.. Weird thing though, when I went to that link the first time on my iPhone, it took me to a different adobe page that said it couldn't pull up the url because of too many redirects and then took me to download flash. I had to hit back and touch the blue lego about three times before it showed that apple message you made. FYI. I am on a 2G iPhone with 3.1OS. Karl On Apr 29, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Matt S. wrote: Return of the Blue Lego Posted at Apr 9, 10 by Grant Skinner « Colorgasm Music Visuali... | BitmapSlice9: Scale9 fo... » As some people have noticed, Apple has eliminated the blue lego icon that indicates a missing plugin on the iPad. I believe that this is a not so subtle way of shifting users from believing that the iPad browser is lacking something, to believing that the site they are viewing is broken. In response to this, I've created the blueLego edition of SWFObject 2.2. It works exactly the same as regular SWFObject, except it will display the blue lego icon, with a link to Adobe's get Flash Player page on iPhone, iPod, and iPad. As of April 13, this page correctly displays content explaining to iPad users why Flash is unavailable on their device. This is the same content shown on the iPhone, which is described here. You're obviously free to modify the iDevice alternate content or the code itself to suit your own needs. It is released under the MIT license, and you can download it by clicking here. Whether it is useful for production or not, I leave to you. It was created more as a statement than anything. You can test it by pointing your iDevice browser to this url: http://gskinner.com/playpen/bluelego/ http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2010/04/return_of_the_b.html ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
Hello everyone, Your thoughts on this idea.. and this may not be the best way about it, but maybe Adobe could get CS5 or CS6 to be able to utilize/open a base Obj C iPhone app template, retaining the original Obj C base (approved by apple) and let you add your content, then compile the content to work with that approved Apple iPhone template? The developer would just have to work with certain parameters set by the template resources I would think. Then Apple and Adobe can start a playing nicely and start a whole iApp template resource that provided everything for us developers. You could go and sign up as a developer with Apple or Adobe and utilize templates they have that allow you to use CS5 or CS6, whichever is the most current at the time. Adobe gets on iPhone and Apple gets to control the templates to an extent of performance. Not content. Would this be a viable possibility? Or am I just a dreamer.. :) JAT Karl Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
here is the reaction from Adobe head honcho, Shantanu Narayen: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/04/29/live-blogging-the-journals-interview-with-adobe-ceo/ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 00:45:26 +0200 From: birik...@hotmail.de To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash Steve Jobs will be dead before Flash - don't worry. *Beatrix Kruemmer-Frau* Dipl. Ing. Designer|CEH-LPIG-1 Flash/Flex Developer Network Security Administrator Blog http://www.blog.dieanstalt.com Twitter http://twitter.com/Birikini Xing http://www.xing.com/profile/Beatrix_KruemmerFrau LinkenID http://de.linkedin.com/in/beatrixkruemmerfrau Am 30.04.2010 00:41, schrieb Karl DeSaulniers: @Zeh Thanks for the links. Good to know. I have investied a LOT of time in flash, as have many others. :) Karl On Apr 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Zeh Fernando wrote: Mobile and desktop performance is already above and beyond what HTML5 can do: http://themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2010/03/22/ http://vimeo.com/10553088 Touch events/gestures/points are supported by FP 10.1 so I'm pretty sure we'll have a way to see whether any of those are actually present. I'd say that as you get past the kicking and screaming and the lack of Apple support, Flash is in a very comfortable position and bound for a brilliant future. Zeh On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.comwrote: The best thing for Adobe to do right now is get flash player up to STELLAR performance, even by Apples standards and then refuse to put it on the iPhone. That would just be funny. When flash is benchmarking html5 under the table, then adobe will have some barganing chips if you will. I dont agree with Jobs attitude but flash could use a performance update on adobe's end. Since the majority of smart phones are leaning towards touch, it may be time to graduate. Not to mention the fact that touch screen computers and keyboards are on their way. We don't want flash to not be able to work on regular desktops. But I hope/am thinking Adobe is already on this one and it will be some time before touch is standard. Maybe add a displays.touch class to the IDE? Is there a way currently to check if a computer uses touch? I am thinking not but stand to be corrected. Karl Sent from losPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Brian Mays bm...@newsok.com wrote: On 4/29/10 2:35 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is the right thing to do. I'll third that. I've been preaching at our company to continue to do Flash graphics for our news site. But those graphics are targeted to our desktop users. The iPhone users get a site that isn't built to handle graphics like that. The iPad users get a customized site as well. Now we can say our desktop users have their own product :) Brian Mays ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/19780/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
Ha ha http://topherchris.com/post/558594718 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
