[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim Propeller.cpp, 1.3, 1.4

2004-05-01 Thread Jim Wilson
Maybe I'm misunderstanding why you are doing this. Lower pitch angle, fast spinning prop. That doesn't makes sense? Best, Jim Andy Ross said: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/YASim In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv7517 Modified Files: Propeller.cpp Log Message:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim Propeller.cpp, 1.3, 1.4

2004-05-01 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding why you are doing this. Lower pitch angle, fast spinning prop. That doesn't makes sense? Not pitch angle: A lower value of _j0 indicates a low advance ratio, which increases windmilling speed. This was just a sign bug to the previous checkin,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim Propeller.cpp, 1.3, 1.4

2004-05-01 Thread Jim Wilson
Andy Ross said: Jim Wilson wrote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding why you are doing this. Lower pitch angle, fast spinning prop. That doesn't makes sense? Not pitch angle: A lower value of _j0 indicates a low advance ratio, which increases windmilling speed. This was just a sign bug to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim Propeller.cpp, 1.3, 1.4

2004-05-01 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Is any of this addressing the low rpm propeller issue discussed last week? (In other words, should I bother trying to correctly adjust the p51d prop config yet?) In theory, yes. I haven't had a whole lot of time to test it yet, but the slow/windmilling propeller regime

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/docs-mini README.sound, NONE,

2004-04-28 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/docs-mini In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv6438 Added Files: README.sound Log Message: Add an explanation for using Arts. --- NEW FILE --- ALSA and Arts - This article leads me

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/docs-mini README.sound, NONE,

2004-04-28 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: ALSA and Arts This article leads me to the assumption that OpenAL at least on Linux is situated _always_ on top of the ALSA OSS emulation layer and does not use the ALSA interface directly but I find it hard to believe Why should I avoid directly using the ALSA layer

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/docs-mini README.sound, NONE,

2004-04-28 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 28 April 2004 13:22: The major problem here is Arts that doesn't play nice with programs that don't support Arts directly. This problem has annoyed me so much that if I had to chose an desktop manager it would never be KDE until they decide to stop using Art

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/docs-mini README.sound, NONE,

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman said: Martin Spott wrote: ALSA and Arts This article leads me to the assumption that OpenAL at least on Linux is situated _always_ on top of the ALSA OSS emulation layer and does not use the ALSA interface directly but I find it hard to believe Why should I avoid

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/docs-mini README.sound, NONE,

2004-04-28 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 28 April 2004 13:46: - aRts can use ALSA - KDE can play sound without aRts (AFAIK; haven't tried) Oh, I forgot to mention: the main problems with aRts and ALSA seem to lie in ALSA, at least for some chips (e.g. AC97). This improved vastly in the latest 2.6.* Linux

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/docs-mini README.sound, NONE,

2004-04-28 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 28 April 2004 13:46: - aRts can use ALSA - KDE can play sound without aRts (AFAIK; haven't tried) Oh, I forgot to mention: the main problems with aRts and ALSA seem to lie in ALSA, at least for some chips (e.g. AC97). This improved vastly in

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/docs-mini README.sound, NONE,

2004-04-28 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 28 April 2004 14:15: Melchior FRANZ wrote: Oh, I forgot to mention: the main problems with aRts and ALSA seem to lie in ALSA, at least for some chips (e.g. AC97). This improved vastly in the latest 2.6.* Linux kernels. Sure, the most widely used sound option

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/docs-mini README.sound, NONE,

2004-04-28 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 28 April 2004 14:15: Melchior FRANZ wrote: Oh, I forgot to mention: the main problems with aRts and ALSA seem to lie in ALSA, at least for some chips (e.g. AC97). This improved vastly in the latest 2.6.* Linux kernels. Sure, the most widely used

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/docs-mini README.sound, NONE,

2004-04-28 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Is this still true? I'm running KDE and can't remember the last time artsd got in the way. To be honest though, I don't recall what changed. Maybe I just turned off most of the stupid sounds in the kde apps. My impression was that recent versions of arts and esd released

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman said: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Input In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv26245 Modified Files: input.cxx input.hxx Log Message: Make it possible to define a target-platform tag in the joystick configuration file. This would make it possible to have

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jim Wilson -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 15:12: Erik Hofman said: Make it possible to define a target-platform tag in the joystick configuration file. This would make it possible to have different configuration files for Windows. Just curious, why is this required? Because Unix and Windows

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Jim Wilson -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 15:12: Erik Hofman said: Make it possible to define a tag in the joystick configuration file. This would make it possible to have different configuration files for Windows. Just curious, why is this required? Because

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Erik Hofman checked in: Make it possible to define a target-platform tag in the joystick configuration file. This would make it possible to have different configuration files for Windows. Possible values are: Windows, UNIX or All. Not specifying the tag equals to 'All'.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic Bouvier -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 15:49: Melchior FRANZ wrote: Because Unix and Windows don't always agree on axis numeration. In fact, they never agree. axis 2 3 are reverted, and the hat has different numbering, for the same joystick name. So we'd need two config files for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:58:41 -0700 Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many/most of the joysticks don't work for windows users. They download the program, try it, and then complain when the view is constantly spinning around. One presumes the axis mappings are simply different between the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: So we'd need two config files for *every* joystick (with more than two axes)? That's IMHO not acceptable. I'd rather prefer a mechanism that makes one and the same config file work for both systems then. After endless times of no discussion and no solutions I hacked

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Andy Ross
Erik Hofman wrote: After endless times of no discussion and no solutions I hacked something together that works for every situation. Not acceptable won't do in this case unless I see something show up that is elegant and that works in every situation. Agreed. We need to get something

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Richard Bytheway
axes as defined in the file. Richard -Original Message- From: Erik Hofman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2004 3:21 pm To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 16:21: Melchior FRANZ wrote: So we'd need two config files for *every* joystick (with more than two axes)? That's IMHO not acceptable. Not acceptable won't do in this case unless I see something show up that is elegant and that works in every

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Dienstag, 27. April 2004 16:33, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Erik Hofman -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 16:21: Melchior FRANZ wrote: So we'd need two config files for *every* joystick (with more than two axes)? That's IMHO not acceptable. Not acceptable won't do in this case unless I see

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Erik Hofman -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 16:21: Melchior FRANZ wrote: So we'd need two config files for *every* joystick (with more than two axes)? That's IMHO not acceptable. Not acceptable won't do in this case unless I see something show up that is elegant and that works

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 16:37: I bet you can come up with a clever solution where only the platform specific part are in the actual configuration file and everything else gets included from a shared file ... axis unix=2 windows=3 descRudder/desc binding

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 16:49: * Erik Hofman -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 16:37: I bet you can come up with a clever solution where only the platform specific part are in the actual configuration file and everything else gets included from a shared file ... axis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Andy Ross
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Whereby unix would be an alias for n and the line could also be written as axis n=2 windows=3 This is syntactically cleaner, but the code changes required are severe. XML Attributes in property files are interpreted only by the SimGear property parser, they aren't

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Andy Ross -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 17:23: Melchior FRANZ wrote: axis n=2 windows=3 This is syntactically cleaner, but the code changes required are severe. XML Attributes in property files are interpreted only by the SimGear property parser, they aren't available in the resulting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Andy Ross -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 17:23: Melchior FRANZ wrote: axis n=2 windows=3 This is syntactically cleaner, but the code changes required are severe. XML Attributes in property files are interpreted only by the SimGear property parser, they aren't available in

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 17:50: Right now code other than SimGear's property I/O code can access the attributes. To get this working I need to access them in FlightGear, but every(?) attribute other than n= is disregarded... I still don't get it. In props_io.cxx:164ff, why

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Tuesday 27 April 2004 18:20: winval = atts.getValue(n_win);// or windows [...] if (winval != -1 current_os == windows) [...] ... assuming that a non existent attribute returns -1. It's a string or char* and does of course return 0. :-) m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Al West
to virtual axes as defined in the file. Richard -Original Message- From: Erik Hofman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2004 3:21 pm To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx, 1.151, 1.152 options.cxx, 1.52, 1.53

2004-03-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I should point out that the reason these were setup as cout was so that we wouldn't lose all output if someone compiled with the --without-logging option. Now that our default output is much less verbose, people are probably not compiling with this option so it's

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx, 1.151, 1.152 options.cxx, 1.52, 1.53

2004-03-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I should point out that the reason these were setup as cout was so that we wouldn't lose all output if someone compiled with the --without-logging option. Now that our default output is much less verbose, people are probably not compiling with this option so it's probably not a big deal ...

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx, 1.151, 1.152 options.cxx, 1.52, 1.53

2004-03-30 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I should point out that the reason these were setup as cout was so that we wouldn't lose all output if someone compiled with the --without-logging option. Now that our default output is much less verbose, people are probably not compiling with this option so it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-27 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson wrote: The other thing to consider is everyone seems to have one more fix they'd like to get in. If we waited for everyone to be happy, we literally would never be able to have a release. At some point we have to draw the line and ship. The 0.9.4 release is simply the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-27 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson said: Curtis L. Olson wrote: The other thing to consider is everyone seems to have one more fix they'd like to get in. If we waited for everyone to be happy, we literally would never be able to have a release. At some point we have to draw the line and ship. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: David Megginson said: I would support a 4-week code freeze before 1.0, however, and I do think it's just about time for a 1.0. We're close, maybe next release, but I think we need to get the subsystem/initialization thing straightened out first. Fred's fix for the tilemanager

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releasesFlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-27 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Jim Wilson wrote: I would support a 4-week code freeze before 1.0, however, and I do think it's just about time for a 1.0. We're close, maybe next release, but I think we need to get the subsystem/initialization thing straightened out first. Fred's fix for the tilemanager last week

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models README, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/bo105/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv12689/Models Modified Files: bo105.ac bo105.xml Added Files: README bo105-1.rgb bo105.nas Removed Files: shadow.rgb Log Message: Melchior FRANZ: - add

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models README, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Friday 26 March 2004 15:37: Ha, there is a funny effect: Did you ever fly a loop which shadowing enabled ? When I do this, I see the shadow flipping through the sky - similar to a meteorite :-) Whoops ... I'll look into it, but I don't promise a solution. (You aren't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models README, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Josh Babcock
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Martin Spott -- Friday 26 March 2004 15:37: Ha, there is a funny effect: Did you ever fly a loop which shadowing enabled ? When I do this, I see the shadow flipping through the sky - similar to a meteorite :-) Whoops ... I'll look into it, but I don't promise a

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13253 Added Files: FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz Log Message: Official 0.9.4 release. Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project but on the other hand these surprisingly short pre-release stages make it very hard for peripheral efforts to keep up with the release

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 26 March 2004 23:35, Martin Spott wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13253 Added Files: FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz Log Message: Official 0.9.4 release. Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 26 March 2004 23:43, Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project but on the other hand these surprisingly short pre-release stages make it very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project but on the other hand these surprisingly short pre-release stages make it very hard for peripheral efforts to keep up with the release

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:28:12 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project I apologize if the schedule was a bit compressed, but I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:28:12 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project I apologize if the schedule was a bit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Jim Wilson
Martin Spott said: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13253 Added Files: FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz Log Message: Official 0.9.4 release. Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-03-25 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: - texturing (no idea which livree; certainly not ADAC ;-) I'd give a strong vote for something civilian, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson said: Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. Haha! Is this what they call aviation innuendo? What about these folks: http://www.harrierpilot.com/oct01/purple.jpg They

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jim Wilson -- Thursday 25 March 2004 01:54: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png That's a nice color, indeed. But it doesn't really go well with the Red Cross. I added it, because the long version of the Bo was constructed for use as rescue helicopter. The

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/bo105/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv17582/Models Modified Files: bo105.ac bo105.xml shadow.rgb Log Message: New updates from Melchior in the color of the day. Ooooh, I found the yellow one definitely nicer,

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Wednesday 24 March 2004 16:40: Ooooh, I found the yellow one definitely nicer, it was a cute, coloured spot in the colloection of mostly uniform coloured aircraft, Hmm ... but the current one fits the seats better, doesn't it? m.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Wednesday 24 March 2004 16:40: Ooooh, I found the yellow one definitely nicer, it was a cute, coloured spot in the colloection of mostly uniform coloured aircraft, Oh, well. Actually I like both versions. I just think that the yellow one got a bit boring already, and that the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Jim Wilson
Melchior FRANZ said: * Martin Spott -- Wednesday 24 March 2004 16:40: Ooooh, I found the yellow one definitely nicer, it was a cute, coloured spot in the colloection of mostly uniform coloured aircraft, Oh, well. Actually I like both versions. I just think that the yellow one got a bit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intelligent Vehicles Lab FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:52:57 -0600, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. ..using these names sounds like neat nice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-03-22 Thread Mathias Frhlich
Hi, On Montag, 22. Mrz 2004 12:53, Martin Spott wrote: Jim Wilson wrote: Martin Spott said: I'm sorry to say this but I can't resist to note that some of the changes in your patch reverted David's the PA-28 rotates around it's nose corrections. I'm not aware of any difference of

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161 pa28-161-set.xml,

2004-03-22 Thread Martin Spott
Jim Wilson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv21723 Modified Files: pa28-161-set.xml Log Message: Missed one. Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/utils/Modeller Makefile.am, 1.2,

2004-03-22 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/utils/Modeller In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv24024/utils/Modeller Modified Files: Makefile.am Log Message: Various final tweaks for the 0.9.4.pre1 release. I appreciate very much having this pre-release

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/utils/Modeller Makefile.am, 1.2,

2004-03-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Hello, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/utils/Modeller In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv24024/utils/Modeller Modified Files: Makefile.am Log Message: Various final tweaks for the 0.9.4.pre1 release. I appreciate very much having

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 942050.stg, 1.11, 1.12

2004-03-21 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv5777 Modified Files: 942050.stg Log Message: Put a sock in it. Index: 942050.stg === RCS file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 942050.stg, 1.11, 1.12

2004-03-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv5777 Modified Files: 942050.stg Log Message: Put a sock in it. Index: 942050.stg === RCS file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim YASim.cxx, 1.20, 1.21

2004-03-20 Thread Jim Wilson
Martin Spott said: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/YASim In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14214/src/FDM/YASim Modified Files: YASim.cxx Log Message: Jim Wilson: Remove some hardcoded dependencies between fdm, viewer and acmodel

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim YASim.cxx, 1.20, 1.21

2004-03-19 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/YASim In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14214/src/FDM/YASim Modified Files: YASim.cxx Log Message: Jim Wilson: Remove some hardcoded dependencies between fdm, viewer and acmodel classes and replaced them with

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/f16 f16-3d-set.xml, 1.1,

2004-03-18 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/f16 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv29648/f16 Modified Files: f16-3d-set.xml f16-set.xml Removed Files: f16-3d-jsbsim-set.xml f16-jsbsim-set.xml Log Message: [...] You should also modify this one: isnix:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/f16 f16-3d-set.xml, 1.1,

2004-03-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: You should also modify this one: PropertyList include=f16-jsbsim-set.xml ^^ This is no longer present, Thanks for catching this. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/UIUCModel uiuc_auto_pilot.cpp, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_auto_pilot.h, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_hh_ap.cpp, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_hh_ap.h, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_rah_ap.cpp, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_rah_ap.h, NONE, 1.1 Makefile.am, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_aerodeflections.cpp, 1.4, 1.5 uiuc_aircraft.h, 1.9, 1.10 uiuc_alh_ap.cpp, 1.1, 1.2 uiuc_alh_ap.h, 1.1, 1.2 uiuc_coef_lift.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_coefficients.cpp, 1.6, 1.7 uiuc_coefficients.h, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_icing_demo.cpp, 1.1, 1.2 uiuc_map_controlSurface.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_map_ice.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_map_init.cpp, 1.4, 1.5 uiuc_map_misc.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_map_record1.cpp, 1.1.1.1, 1.2 uiuc_map_record3.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_map_record5.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_map_record6.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_menu_CL.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_controlSurface.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_ice.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_init.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_misc.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_pah_ap.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_recorder.cpp, 1.8, 1.9 uiuc_wrapper.cpp, 1.12, 1.13

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/UIUCModel In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv19850/UIUCModel Hehe, just when you thought it was a while back you heard from the UIUC developers someone comes running out of their shelter just to throw a bunch of new code at you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:07:10 -0500, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS plib. I'm pretty sure it was CVS plib. -- Roy Vegard Ovesen ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? No, not for IRIX, not for Linux. Erik

[Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Megginson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic BOUVIER wrote: I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA if it is of any importance. That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with transparencies anywhere else? Do other people using Windows and NVIDIA see a white

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* David Megginson -- Friday 12 March 2004 15:29: That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg The SGI image seems to be OK, though (and I'm an SGI image expert

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Megginson wrote: Frederic BOUVIER wrote: I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA if it is of any importance. That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with transparencies anywhere else? Do other people using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg Yes -- I have that problem as well -- it has something to do with drawing order. All the best, David ___

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 12 March 2004 15:59: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg The SGI image seems to be OK, though (and I'm an SGI image expert :-). I'll look into plib ... Yep, looks very much like

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* David Megginson -- Friday 12 March 2004 16:21: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg Yes -- I have that problem as well -- it has something to do with drawing order. No. plib has a bug: it doesn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Megginson wrote : Melchior FRANZ wrote: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg Yes -- I have that problem as well -- it has something to do with drawing order. I am confused. We were speaking

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 12 March 2004 15:59: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg The SGI image seems to be OK, though (and I'm an SGI image expert :-). I'll look into plib ... Yep,

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic BOUVIER -- Friday 12 March 2004 16:24: I guess Melchior use Linux and he post a screenshot of what I am seeing. plib bug. I'm working on a fix. m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:03:00 -0500, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederic BOUVIER wrote: I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA if it is of any importance. That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic BOUVIER wrote: Another thing that I noticed about the pa28 panel was the plane in the TC was not transparent where it should be. The rgb file did have an alpha channel but because the file was only 256 colors the alpha channel was not transparent in FlightGear. It was OK when I opened it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: No. plib has a bug: it doesn't recognize grayscale images with alpha layer yet. See ssgLoadSGI.cxx:301, where the alpha information is wrongly written to the blue layer, while the alpha layer is disabled. :-] Ah -- that explains what's going on here. I had thought that the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/sgs126/Panels

2004-03-12 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/sgs126/Panels In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv22201/Panels Modified Files: glider-panel.xml Log Message: David Culp: Here are two files for the sgs126. The sgs126-jsbsim-set.xml file now starts the glider in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/sgs126/Panels

2004-03-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Here are two files for the sgs126. The sgs126-jsbsim-set.xml file now starts the glider in the air by default. I think some people didn't know it is a glider, [...] I assume we already have two of them: The ASW-20 and the SGS 126 - don't we ? Yes, but

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv6690/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models Modified Files: pa28-161.ac panel.rgb Added Files: bench-back.rgb glareshield.rgb Log Message: Added textures for the back

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: This aircraft gets really nice. Thanks. The big breakthrough was my finally learning to use Blender to make the textures (such as the panel plastics and screws) as well as the geometry -- using a good 3D modeller with a bit of lighting can make even a ham-fisted dolt like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Luff
Martin Spott writes: David Megginson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv6690/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models Modified Files: pa28-161.ac panel.rgb Added Files: bench-back.rgb glareshield.rgb Log Message:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
David Luff wrote: I'll second that - it really is good. It looks really good, and at high resolutions the frame rate is much better than the default - I've seen 60 (pa28) vs. 30 (c172) at some locations and resolutions. The old (2D) panel code seemed to be the real killer, since I'm using much

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:10:30 +, David Luff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One bug though - I don't see the instrument needles under Linux with an NVidia card. I thought you simply hadn't done them, until I saw them under Cygwin with an ATI card. I see the large tilting plane in the turn

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Stockill
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, David Megginson wrote: I used geometry for the needles, and they must just be too narrow to show up. It's strange, because I also use Linux+NVIDIA (GeForce2Go), and the needles do show up on my system at 1600x1200. In any case, I'll be switching to bigger quads with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: I too, experienced this, no needles in the instruments. I use a NVidia card under Cygwin. After installing the cvs version of plib, the needles appeared (I used to have plib 1.6.0). Ah, yes -- the last official PLIB version has a bug (I can hardly consider it a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Frederic Bouvier
David Megginson wrote: Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: Another thing that I noticed about the pa28 panel was the plane in the TC was not transparent where it should be. The rgb file did have an alpha channel but because the file was only 256 colors the alpha channel was not transparent in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-28 Thread Jorge Van Hemelryck
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:37:48 +0100 (CET) Frederic BOUVIER wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: David Megginson wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), Yes, I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-28 Thread Jorge Van Hemelryck
It's fixed in CVS now... Thanks ! -- Jorge Van Hemelryck ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: radar_misc.rgb Log Message: Add support for a storm blib Excellent. As far as I know, civilian airliners carry radar that is capable only of detecting weather, not small things like aircraft. They also use a separate radar system for ground separation (the

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