Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-26 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon S Berndt wrote: >> What are the steps involved? I can help out, I think. > Download one or more DEM files from here (this needs to be coordinated): > http://edcsgs9.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/srtm/SRTM30 > Get TerraGear working: > http://www.terragear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nurbs++ isn't needed for this handling this data. SO you should be safe. Great ! GTS should be taken from CVS. Right ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some European cities satelite photos

2003-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But we also could need the ability to select the airport by city names and > country for an 1.0 release, that's a lot easier than today where you need to > know the airport ID to select it. You know that it might start to become troublesome to handle such a long list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RIP: metakit

2003-08-29 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have rewritten the flightgear code that used metakit and have > removed all traces of metakit from simgear and will probably have done > the same in the flightgear tree by the time most people read this. Hoorrry ! Now, _this_ is good news. Fred

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RIP: metakit

2003-08-29 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic BOUVIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I once thought I could try to build a Tru64 Unix build ( DEC/Compaq/HP plateforms ) > but plib don't compile straight and finally decided it didn't worth the effort. Oh, at least they managed to get PLIB right for Solaris/Sparc. Do you have a compiler

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Airport data

2003-09-01 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have grabbed Robin Peel's latest x-plane data which is DAFIF based + > a lot of hand additions for airports not in DAFIF's listings. Our > current data is based off of Robin's Data of maybe 2-3 years ago so we > are long due to freshen up and get cu

[Flightgear-devel] missing file or wrong declaration at YF-23

2003-09-01 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, I have the impression there is something missing with the YF-23 in the CVS base package: WARNING: ssgLoadAC: Failed to open '/home/mas/CVS/FlightGear/data/Aircraft/yf23/Models/YF23-5-1h1.ac' for reading /home/mas/CVS/FlightGear/data/ contains the complete base package. I even did a full

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Framerate drop

2003-09-02 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's disturbing that even at take off from KSFO that the FPS drops > so dramatically when looking in the 'right' direction when these things > are so far away In my opinion this is the only annoyance in FlightGear that really hurts noticeably. Even when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] missing file or wrong declaration at YF-23

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should now be fixed in cvs, sorry about that ... Thanks - works, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___

[Flightgear-devel] README.gpc

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, someone modified the README.gpc in TerraGear in the way that it got reduced to the proposed Makefile for gpc-231. Has this been intentionally ? I thought the information in the README was quite valuable. Especially the 3. ***IMPORTANT STEP*** ***DO NOT SKIP*** got removed and I'm somewha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] README.gpc

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > The version of README.gpc in CVS is two years old: > http://cvs.terragear.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/TerraGear/README.gpc?cvsroot=TerraGear-0.0 Duh, I did an update today and afterwards the file was reduced

Re: [Flightgear-devel] missing file or wrong declaration at YF-23

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Should now be fixed in cvs, sorry about that ... > Thanks - works, I have something more that's strange with the XF-23: Brakes ,/. don't work, parking brake B doe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] missing file or wrong declaration at YF-23

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 03 September 2003 14:26, Martin Spott wrote: >> I have something more that's strange with the XF-23: Brakes ,/. don't work, >> parking brake B does not work, speed brake Ctrl-b does not work, flaps [/] >>

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Further to Curt's last post about flattening rivers, how would > everyone feel about flattening airports? When you look at large airports, say with runways over 3 km, you'll find quite a few where the runways follow the terrain at least over a differenc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Spott
"Jon S Berndt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which is better: > awk > gawk > nawk I think it depends on what platform you are running. The best solution would be to use 'awk' and stick to the least common denominator in the command set, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] glHorizon

2003-09-05 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Peden wrote: >> On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 22:06, Jon Berndt wrote: >> >>>Did I mention this link yet? >>> >>>http://www.web-discovery.net/ >> >> >> Very cool! > Indeed. I knew it exists but didn't know it used JSBSim (or doesn't it?) > It looks like a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] new scenery samples

2003-09-05 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, what I have can be found here: > ftp://ftp.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Scenery-0.9.2/ Probably it would have been wise to coordinate the rename of the Scenery/ directory, so the ftp mirrors would not have to pull the complete Scenery-0.7.9/

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/fokker50/Models

2003-09-05 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/fokker50/Models > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv715 > Modified Files: > fokker50.ac fokker50.xml The F-50 has evolved to a really nice aircraft. But there are still a few issues that appear very stra

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports basic.dat.gz, 1.2, 1.3

2003-09-05 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Airports > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv7323 > Modified Files: > basic.dat.gz > Log Message: > Updated airport data (including new airports from Robin Peel.) Wohoo, he even includes Chambley Airbase in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question about dc3

2003-09-07 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SHIFT+1 left engine select > SHIFT+2 right engine select This is one thing we might internationalize sóomtime Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dutch Scenery

2003-09-08 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW. Did anyone think about creating a directory tree to store static > scenery for world coverage? I think it is highly needed. especially as we're now missing the embosomed buildings after employing Curt's new scenery samples, Martin. -- Unix _I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question about dc3

2003-09-08 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] So the > mapping actually _is_ shift+2 as opposed to @ or " or whatever the shift > character on the 2 key happens to be. No, in fact I have to use "@", on our keyboard this is "AltGr-q" to select the second engine in FlightGear on the German keyboa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question about dc

2003-09-08 Thread Martin Spott
Ima Sudonim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, Shift-2 selects magneto for the second engine. Shift-1 the first. > Shift-g is lower the gear. [...] > Next time I promise to re-read the documentation! 8-) Concerning the gear the 'official' documentation is not up to date because Shift-g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] San Francisco city lake

2003-09-08 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The impression I have is that no matter what texture is picked for > 'default' landcover, it's going to be massively, obviously wrong much > of the time. This leads to the assumption that there is need for another source of landcover data. The SRTM misi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 60 seconds of flightgear

2003-09-09 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any chance you can convert it to MPEG (instead of Motion JPEG)? > irixdivx doesn't support motion jpeg yet :-( Hey, MJPEG is _the_ default video format on SGI, although 'movieplayer' might not be able to decode AVI Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New world scenery build update

2003-09-11 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you'd like to track the progress of my world scenery rebuild effort > and download the chunks that have finished so far, you can go to the > following page: > > http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/scenery-0.9.2.html I'd like to note that all t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear mirror needed?

2003-09-11 Thread Martin Spott
Randy Locklair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey do we need another US mirror? I have a machine at rackspace.com that I > could host the stuff on. Let me know.. We'll try it, and if the bandwidth > doesn't get too ridiculous I'll keep it up for good. Be careful if you have volume constraints. I'm

[Flightgear-devel] St. Auban / LFMX appears to have wrong location

2003-09-11 Thread Martin Spott
Just as a side note: St. Auban / LFMX appears to have a wrong location. The location already looked very trange with the old scenery and alos does with the new one. In Flightgear the runway sits directly on top of the 'Durance': http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/LFMX_01.png Martin.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] St. Auban / LFMX appears to have wrong location

2003-09-11 Thread Martin Spott
David Culp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> St. Auban / LFMX appears to have a wrong location. > For LFMX I show a location of 4404N 00600E, elevation 461 m This appears to be not precise enough: http://www.ivao.org/db/ss/airport.asp?Id=LFMX isnix: 18:26:10 ~> zgrep LFMX CVS/FlightGear/data/Air

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear mirror needed?

2003-09-11 Thread Martin Spott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We could use the edonky network for sharing the scenery and other flightgear > relevant files. This would reduce the traffic of the official ftp mirror > servers because users could download those files from each other > via the edonkey network. Currently I'm okay wit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] St. Auban / LFMX appears to have wrong location

2003-09-11 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, in this case, consider that we are using vmap0 data for > rivers/roads which can differ from "true" WGS-84 positions by up to a > couple 100 meters in places. Aaah, okay, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-14 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering, since we have a global developers base, how difficult > would it be to measure the error of the VMap0 data globally [...] You mean to take kown places for reference and determine the error of their placement in VMap0 data ? We'll have on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-14 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no shortcut to be found here, spend your energies looking for > higher res data sets to splice in to the vmap0 locally ! Oh, we _do_ have the ability to produce higer res data by hand. The missing bit is a mechanism to modify the automatic scen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-14 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott writes: >> Oh, we _do_ have the ability to produce higer res data by hand. The >> missing bit is a mechanism to modify the automatic scenery build so >> that we can specify an order of different data s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-14 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott writes: >> "Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > This can be turned into a Polygon Algebra abstraction, >> >> Every piece of manually >> refined lan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup time option

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am just commiting an additional command line option to specify a > starting time of day in the sense of: Did you probabliy mix up other options ? I usually run FlightGear with --start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11 and enjoy a nice morning. After the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/T38 T38.xml, 1.2, 1.3

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/T38 > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv23354 > Modified Files: > T38.xml I'd vote for a modification of the 3D model. The cones behind the engines don't look _that_ realistic when sitting idle on the ru

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/T38

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic BOUVIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> Erik Hofman wrote: >> > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/T38 >> > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv23354 >> >> > Modified Files: >> > T38.xml >

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel.cxx, 1.16,

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Cockpit > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv26208 > Modified Files: > panel.cxx Although this improves the altimeter display in the default aircraft, the c310u3a-3d looks a bit strange now at my end: h

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/T38

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's meant to be the heath buildup that disturbs the airflow and hence > influences the visibility in the specific area. Personally I consider the cones a bit dominant for this purpose, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Norm is right that the only robust solution is to build a big, central > database-driven GIS repository, where we can check out individual > polygons, lines, and elevation points, edit them, and then check them > back in again (preferably in a distribut

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott writes: >> >> I wonder how long it takes until someone imports the world's SRTM data >> into GRASS (with a networked database backend like PostGIS). > > AFAIK lots of people are doing this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> Although this improves the altimeter display in the default aircraft, >> the c310u3a-3d looks a bit strange now at my end: >> >> http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Panel_04.png > Wha

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel.cxx, 1.17,

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Cockpit > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv3773 > Modified Files: > panel.cxx > Log Message: > Try to prevent z-buffer problems for video cards with a 16-bit depth buffer _Slight_ improvement on a 24 b

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel.cxx, 1.18,

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Cockpit > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv8404 > Modified Files: > panel.cxx > Log Message: > Don't just disable depth buffer writes but instead disable the depth test all > together By accident my m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup time option

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Starting with --start-date-lat=2002:07:01:20:00:00 (default airport), I'm > seeing a sudden change in lighting after about a minute or so, This is exactly the behaviour I encounter when for example starting at dusk (in the c310u3a-3d at KHAF this time). W

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup time option

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> This is exactly the behaviour I encounter when for example starting at >> dusk (in the c310u3a-3d at KHAF this time). When FG starts, the panel >> is a bit dark (because it's already pretty dark outsid

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott writes: >> We would need a database where everyone around the world could be >> granted write access to a dataset that is kept at one central point >> (later we might talk about replication or a distrib

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I am worried about security issues when we have thousands of > users all wanting to update their little piece of the earth :-) I didn't mean that _everyone_ should be able to write to the "scenery database" (or however we'd call it _if_ it really sho

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Going a slightly different direction with this, the latest scenery > build consumes almost 7Gb (up from the previous 4.5Gb) which means it > takes me about 11 cd's to fully contain it. Is the new rebuild already complete ? I'm wondering: bash-2.03$

Re: [Flightgear-devel] model airplanes - but without FGFS so far

2003-09-21 Thread Martin Spott
Alex Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9733962835.html > There _must_ be a better way to communicate with the remote model aircraft > than to use a web application server as the client software ... Shure, but I have the impression the decided to do it this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release ...

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I would like to start prepairing for the 0.9.3 release of > FlightGear. Lot's of stuff has changed, and the latest scenery works > slightly better with the current cvs code. Nice to hear - I hope I'll get the manual up to date in time. There

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release ...

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Matevz Jekovec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>3.) fix several aircrafts: For example thos who are supposed to have a >>speed brake should really have a working one. >> >> > Yeah, my J-22 has speed brakes (modeled and animated correctly), but > shift+b doesn't do anything? This should really b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release ...

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We may find that we'll need to have certain keys reserved for "per aircraft" > definitions, rather than modifying (overriding) global key input properties, > at least for the time being. I'd say everything is welcome that is backed by some structure that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] keyboard mappings and Short Ref doc

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If someone has the TeX utils (and tex4ht) setup on their system, the > FGShortRef.* could use an update. Attached below is a list of changes that > need to be made. I'm listening - thanks for your input, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release ...

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> Shift-b _schould_ toggle the parking brake and it does so on _most_ >> aircrafts - some by LeeE have additional very nice gimmicks. Someone >> posted Ctrl-b for the speed brake but none of the aircraft th

[Flightgear-devel] new FGSimTurbine

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately I didn't manage to get this one airborne because the > engines don't work any more after the recent JSBSim turbine update. Oh, I have to start counting with [1] instead of [0]. Wouldn't it be nice if we could

[Flightgear-devel] Re: keyboard mappings and Short Ref doc

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
> "Misc keyboard controls" > CTRL + B Speedbrake. Still does not work on the YF-23. While testing I found an interesting effect. Usually I'm running FG with: --start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11 When I did a reset via menu I was suddenly sitting in the dark (on KHAF). Can anyone reproduce

Re: [Flightgear-devel] keyboard mappings and Short Ref doc

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> "Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > If someone has the TeX utils (and tex4ht) setup on their system, the >> > FGShortRef.* coul

Re: [Flightgear-devel] keyboard mappings and Short Ref doc

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] We definitely can't use Shift-2 to select the second engine on a > C310, we have to use "@" (AltGr-q). This means "Q" [...] ^ Errr I mean "@", M

Re: [Flightgear-devel] key bindings - English

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
David Culp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a key map for English keyboards, [...] I assume that there are differences between British and American keyboards, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] keyboard mappings and Short Ref doc

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Nope. I have to repeat myself here - people simply don't listen what >> I'm talking about! Users with a German keyboard _have_ to use these >> keys. We definite

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: keyboard mappings and Short Ref doc

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 24 September 2003 11:52, Martin Spott wrote: >> > "Misc keyboard controls" >> > CTRL + B Speedbrake. >> >> Still does not work on the YF-23. While testing I found an interesting >>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT latex2html??

2003-09-25 Thread Martin Spott
> due to the size of the current flight school (pdf=5.6MB), I would like > to change it to HTML. I tried to use latex2html, but was more or less > disappointed by the result (same with pdf2html). We use 'pdflatex' for PDF output and 'htlatex' for the HML version of the manual(s). As I'm not an exp

[Flightgear-devel] new Solaris binaries

2003-09-25 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, I made a Solaris build of FlightGrear from the sources _before_ Erik's most recent patch set ("Move FGEventMgr and FGSubsystemMgr over to SimGear, [...]"). You'll find it in: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Solaris/FlightGear-20030924.tar.bz2 This is an archive of the whole result tr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: keyboard mappings and Short Ref doc

2003-09-25 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > YASim's author has been AWOL. But I think he's still on the mailing > list. :) Nice to see you're still here, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lee Elliott has just contributed an AN225 to the FlightGear project > and I have just committed it to CVS. This aircraft is the biggest one > built for FlightGear so far and it flies and looks really nice. Great ! Incredible ! Martin. -- Unix _IS_

Re: [Flightgear-devel] web site updates

2003-10-01 Thread Martin Spott
"David Luff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/1/03 at 10:58 AM James A. Treacy wrote: >>At the risk of offending the author of the text, I have modified the >>last three paragraphs of overview.html to be a bit less personal. > > Hmm, I always thought that was Michael Basler speaking. No doubt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] web site updates

2003-10-01 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What can I say, I learned html in the 20th century back when there > were more gopher servers than http servers. :-) When I started exploring The Net we only had Gopher here in Germany - at least I never heard about HTTP in Germany in 1994. We used a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG_SCENERY with multiple path elements ...

2003-10-02 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. Obviously, we'll want to make things smarter soon, but for > now, should we consider moving all of the custom buildings to their > own directory hierarchy, so that we don't have to reinstall them > whenever there's a new scenery build? What do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG_SCENERY with multiple path elements ...

2003-10-06 Thread Martin Spott
Jon Stockill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Martin Spott wrote: >> I'd suggest to have a mechanism that provides handling of _all_ sort >> manual addition - this includes manual scenery tweaking. I assume this >> is best done on scenery generation

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html, 1.6,

2003-10-06 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/www/Docs/InstallGuide > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv19466/Docs/InstallGuide > Modified Files: > getstart.html getstartap1.html getstartap2.html > getstartap3.html getstartch1.html getstartch2.html >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: I am new here/ helicopter flight model

2003-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In case you are creating your own modifications to the animation file, > you have to animate every blade by itself because they don't share a > single rotation axis ... I doubt any reasonable machine is able to handle the varying blade angles every frame

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: I am new here/ helicopter flight model

2003-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
"Richard Bytheway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A quote I once heard: > "A helicopter is not an aircraft, it is ten thousand spare parts > flying in close formation." Woah :-) But it is not _that_ difficult. I've once flown a simple Bell 47-G model _without_ collective pitch so you had to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: I am new here/ helicopter flight model

2003-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] Every time you wanted to gain lift you had to accelerate the > main rotor and - because people didn't have gyros these days - you had > to counteract with the tail rotor (much more than you have to do > nowadays when you simpl

[Flightgear-devel] GCC-3.3, -march=athlon -O3

2003-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Just as a side note: If anyone compiles FlightGear with GCC-3.3 using the options "-march=athlon -O3" you are likely to trigger a compiler but errm, 'feature'. If you experience FlightGear missing to load FDM parameters, then you should reduce optimization to "-O1" and you're done, Martin. -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery mirrors

2003-10-15 Thread Martin Spott
"James A. Treacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is one of the reasons that relative links are a good idea. As a > made up example, a link from http://gnucash.org/en/contribute.phtml to > http://gnucash.org/pub/gnucash/sources/stable/ should use > instead of > http://gnucash.org/pub/gnucash/so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery mirrors

2003-10-15 Thread Martin Spott
Cameron Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So why not JS? One can assume that anyone using the GRAPHICAL interface > will have a GRAPHICAL browser, so bye-bye lynx/links. One can also > assume that only hardcore/anal users will have JS disabled, [...] I'm not shure if I apply for these attribut

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery mirrors

2003-10-15 Thread Martin Spott
Cameron Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My suggestion for using JS was because of the whole mirroring thing. We > could do something server-side, but then our mirrors will have to be > able to handle it. I assume we are constrained to using only > client-side stuff. In this case you're livin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] release warning

2003-10-15 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As time permits, I might start fiddling around with pre-release work > for the next major release, but I'll hold off of an "official" release > for at least a week or two probably. I'd consider two weeks not to be enough for a release. There are so ma

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.css,

2003-10-15 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/www/Docs/InstallGuide > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv29188/Docs/InstallGuide > Modified Files: > getstart.css getstart.html getstartap1.html getstartap2.html > getstartap3.html getstartch1.html getstar

Re: [Flightgear-devel] release warning

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to push forward with some "pre" releases. I very much > appreciate the documentation issues. Perhaps in a week or two or > three if we are ready for an official release and the documentation > isn't quite there, we could go ahead anyway, a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Version 0.9.3-pre1

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's still time to get new code and bug fixes in before the > official 0.9.3 release so no need to panic (yet.) :-) Could we have a real "feature freeze" for at least one, better two weeks before official release ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user fri

[Flightgear-devel] Broken initialization on Reset

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, I'm still experiencing a bug that already lasts for quite some weeks. I run 'fgfs' with '--start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11' which gives me daylight whereever I intend to take off. After crashing the plane I'd like to restart my choosing 'Reset' from the 'File' menu - and I'm always gettin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Broken initialization on Reset

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Curt, "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, you can now do something like --timeofday=noon (or morning, or > dusk, or dawn, etc.) which should do something similar to what you are > trying to do with the --start-date-lat= option [...] Yep, I already knew that ;-) but

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim Rotor.cpp, NONE,

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/YASim > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv7544 > > Added Files: > Rotor.cpp Rotor.hpp Rotorblade.cpp Rotorblade.hpp > Rotorpart.cpp Rotorpart.hpp > Log Message: > Initial revision. > > Maik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Oh, _that_ one is really nice. Although the heli is really very well >> behaved (even with mouse any keyboard control I find it pretty easy to >> fly _and_land_) I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's all give Maik a round of applause for this one. Indeed ! I'd say: "When dreams come true ", Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are still some problems we need to work out. For example, if > you set the wind to 0 and turn off the engine, the helicopter still > slides backwards and turns -- we'll have to figure out why there are > forces acting on it. To test: > > fgfs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've tried it with two different controllers and seem the same effect > -- furthermore, the control-position indicators on the HUD are not > moving, suggesting that the flutter isn't coming from there. Very different here. The indicators on the HUD wer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lee's TSR2

2003-10-18 Thread Martin Spott
"Al West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I tried to capture some video on my digital camera, but it >> wasn't worth sharing. I need to come up with a better way to >> make web videos of a live running application (under Linux.) :-) >> > PC into a scan convertor or use TV out and record direct t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-18 Thread Martin Spott
Maik Justus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The bo really can loop and act quite different to many other helos. Zimmerman flew a slightly modified (lubrication of the main gear box) BO-105 which was able to fly top-down, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its frie

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG 0.9.3-pre1 Win32 binaries

2003-10-18 Thread Martin Spott
"Frederic Bouvier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for those not willing to download the entire installable > package, I also compiled a binary only zip file. > > It is here : > ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-win32-msvc-bin-0.9.3-pre1.zip Thanks - it works excellent. I'm please

Re: [Flightgear-devel] First real flight

2003-10-27 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry this is OT but there isn't anyone else who'd really understand. Still worth reading. Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.9.3 announcement to developers

2003-10-27 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All you developers who build prepackaged versions can go crazy now > with official builds for v0.9.3 ... Debian, Mandrake, Mac OS X, Irix, > Solaris, Slackware, Redhat, Gentoo ... yeah I'm looking at you. :-) Just returned from vacation Solari

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aide.....Help!

2003-10-27 Thread Martin Spott
"Frederic Bouvier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tu peux télécharger les sources et les compiler toi-même si le coeur > t'en dit ;-) C'est ce que je fais lorsqu'il m'arrive de booter sous > Linux. Il y'a un manuel - le "Installation and Getting Started". Ce n'est pas actuel avec la derniere revisi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] From the department of useless stats department

2003-10-28 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our ftp site has been pretty much maxed out since early sunday > morning. yep, I see large interest in the Windows installer package on my ftp site, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hardstand area's

2003-11-02 Thread Martin Spott
"Innis Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erik Hofman writes >>For one we need a good asphalt texture for such areas. I've been trying to >>create one several time but didn't get satisfactory results so far. I have >>no real idea whether there s a code change needed in TerraGear or >>Fli

[Flightgear-devel] CVS lock

2003-11-04 Thread Martin Spott
Could someone please remove: cvs server: [15:11:17] waiting for ehofman's lock in /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/bo105 Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Plib-devel] Re: Vertex Splitting, take two

2003-11-04 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: >> So there's hope that the bo105 bashing comes to an end, finally? Here >> is a more recent version with less doubled vertices, but still a rough >> working copy with enough room for people to moan: >> http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a86

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