Re: [Flightgear-devel] Newbee
On Monday 09 August 2004 02:35, Jim Wilson wrote: David said: What IDE do you suggest me? No ide is necessary for this type of app. A good editor like emacs is fine. Half the time I just run the first gui editor I think of to do quick edits, just because they'll usually support the common shortcut keys. What O.S.? For this use any OS you want. A lot of folks using Linux, most any distro will do. Mandrake is actually fine, gentoo might require a bit more experience (or at least patience) to get started. It's a steep learning curve with gentoo but I think it's worth it. I've not had a great amount of experience of other distros having used RH for years as a server then only over the past couple of years building my own LFS and then the logical progression seemed to be Gentoo when I wanted to migrate my workstations to linux. There are plenty of friendly folks hanging out on IRC always ready to help, plus with a heathly forum (albeit web based), couple of NNTP groups, excellent document and a stable quickly updated build tree, it makes for a very well rounded distribution that can be quite minimalist. Of course I guess debian and any other mainstream distro has all this. Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
OT: Birds for Information Processing Was: [Flightgear-devel] Ready for next release?
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 18:53, Curtis L. Olson wrote: We have now done 3 pre-releases and hopefully we have most of the major issues dealt with for this release. Have we missed any patch submissions? Are there any remaining issues that can be *quickly* dealt with? If I sat a chicken at a computer and made it look at even 1/2 the email I receive each day, I'd probably get put in jail for cruelty to animals, so I could very well have missed a patch or two or 10 along the way. Well done Curt - however I think you might be interested in how google use birds in their processing system. http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172
On Friday 23 July 2004 15:23, Jim Wilson wrote: Sure enough, it's right there in Stroustrup. The strange part is never having noticed this before now. What is it with these developers at microsoft anyway? ;-) Since when have they had developers? Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Success
On Friday 23 July 2004 15:21, Jon Berndt wrote: I'll stop whining, now. ;-) I was able to build simgear and flightgear with the OpenAL libs. I've built it fine too - acutally being able to run it is a different matter. Is it running for you? I've tried all sorts of openalrc files with or without --disable-sound but stil get complaints about openal settings on startup. If someone has a working .openalrc file for 2/4/(5.1) speakers, which uses alsa (or oss-emulation or at a push arts) would they please drop it to me. I think my problem is that I have a NForce3 board and the support is lacking for OpenAL to run my sound chip in it's native mode. Otherwise non-OpenAL sound works fine on my system. Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] 0.9.5pre OpenAL
Downloaded and installed 0.9.5.pre after finally getting a working basefile (net problems atm). When I run flightgear openal complains about volume greater than 1.0 and something about 'cough' - though it's not on my system (Gentoo 2.6.7 - Opteron 146). I thought I'd start fgfs with disable-sound but it still wants to load up OpenAL. Perhaps I have to configure OpenAL? Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cygwin and OpenAL
On Tuesday 20 July 2004 14:35, Jon Berndt wrote: I think this is what you are looking for : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/openal_cyg.tgz -Fred OK, I got it from the link that Erik supplied (thanks Erik). Now I have these files. Can you tell me where I can put them? By the looks of the file extract in your root directory (where ./bin ./include ./lib ./bin are visible) ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Laptop
On Monday 12 July 2004 00:39, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..http://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+replacement+battery returns 577,000 hits, FWIW, auxillary drops those hits to 17200: http://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+auxiliary+battery One thing to consider also is a 12V DC to 16-20V DC convertor (~20 UKP) and a sealed car/motorcycle battery (20+ UKP). ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] L1011-500
On Friday 02 July 2004 13:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it ok to exchange files here, or should I learn to use CVS? Probably not a good idea to send the file to list. I'm sure one of the guys who has CVS access will ask you to email them the files soon, so they can put it into CVS. Look forward to seeing in the air. Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Gentoo Ebuilds for FlightGear CVS...
I have updated my Gentoo ebuilds for FlightGear CVS which includes SimGear CVS and OpenAL CVS. The file is located at: http://www.prbox.com/FlightGearCVS.ebuild.tgz You need to extract this file into /usr/local/portage (or whatever is specified as the portage overlay in /etc/make.conf). You may have to edit make.conf to indicate you wish to use a local portage overlay i.e. PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage These are masked ebuilds. Once extracted you should be able to install FlightGear CVS using: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge flightgear It would be an idea to check what will be installed first using: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv flightgear It's not a good idea to use Update (-U) or Deep (-D) when emerging a build with masked keywords. Please note this will install OpenAL, SimGear, Plib (already in portage at 1.6.0 stable or 1.8.3 unstable) and FlightGear into the same slots as for normal ebuilds. Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost
On Thursday 20 May 2004 08:13, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Looks like Maik's rotor RPM numbers are off (442 RPM). I can't make sense of the dual tacho. What doesn't make sense? ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost
On Thursday 20 May 2004 14:02, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Al West -- Thursday 20 May 2004 14:43: On Thursday 20 May 2004 08:13, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Looks like Maik's rotor RPM numbers are off (442 RPM). I can't make sense of the dual tacho. What doesn't make sense? The ticks are labeled from 0 to 140, with a lot of colored marks around 100. Where would 442 fit into this range? It's not guaranteed that Maik's 442 is right, of course. I'll ask my adviser. It's showing Percentage RPM. Some marks of bo105 have an autothrottle to maintain Rotor RPM which is what some of the coloured marks represent. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Why ZERO
On Thursday 13 May 2004 01:24, Jonathan Richards wrote: There's still lots of scientific stuff in Fortran. And there are plenty of Zeroth laws in science. Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???
On Monday 10 May 2004 13:43, Arnt Karlsen wrote: Hi, ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here??? Guess because no posts have been made - it was the weekend afterall and a nice sunny one here in the UK at that. Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] NewsGear ...
On Tuesday 04 May 2004 13:31, Jim Wilson wrote: David Megginson said: ... is the best idea I've read so far, though I don't remember who suggested it. I agree, but we have more time. Even though it sounded good, the reservation I had was that even though we all know the connection, it is really too generic. First thing I thought of was NewsForge. Diverting slightly no not a suggestion for a title but why has the SourceForge site been abandoned? Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear news letter
On Sunday 02 May 2004 16:20, Jonathan Richards wrote: Firstly, a title. Jon's newsletter is called 'Back of the Envelope', which How about Foxtrot Golf ? Secondly, we're missing suggestions for content. Suggest away, but what I'd really like is for you to suggest and volunteer to write, as well. Perhaps it would be an idea to break these down into topics. Then aim to have, say, 3 topics covered in each newsletter. If people are going to be subscribing then we want to keep them interested and as the target audience are going to have diverse interests in FlightGear we want to have something that caters for everyone. Also I think it's easier for potential writers to try to think of an article on an aspect of FlightGear, flight simulation, computing, software development or aviation if a set of topics have been defined. In addition a number of people (at the Linux Expo and on list/forum) were asking when is FlightGear v1.0 going to be released. A lot of people have a keen interest in FlightGear's development and I think it would be nice if there is something showing current release targets in terms of capability etc and aspects of FG being actively worked on. I know I'm opening a can of worms here and understand FG is under no commericial influences (AFAIK). One major plus point is potential developers could see a nice entry point for themselves. All the best, Al Regards Jonathan [1] http://www.wickwarbrewing.co.uk/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] COLLISION DETECTION: possible or not?
On Friday 30 April 2004 17:50, Erik Hofman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, as I told to Andy Ross I would like to implement a truck driving simulation in FlightGear but my doubt regards the collision detection, which is not implemented! It's only a week that I study FlightGear code and I have now no idea if the collision detection is reasonably implementable or not and, if yes, how. Why do you think that collision detection is not implemented? You can crash to the ground and to the buildings (maybe even other aircraft?), so there must be some logic behind this. What is it that you really want to do? Is collision detection part of the model/dynamics set per aircraft? Just I've been flying through the buildings in San Fran all afternoon in the bo105. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] flightgear and hardware: mailinglist created
On Friday 30 April 2004 18:45, Gene Buckle wrote: Gene Buckle wrote: You could've saved yourself the effort and joined the simpits-tech mailing list at http://www.simpits.org. There's over 300 people on the list. I AM on that list :) I've even posted a few times. AOLMe too/AOL And then... simpits is not fgfs specific. Most discussions tend to be fighter pit based and mostly on MSFS or Falcon. There's not a whole lot of FGFS discussion because it's not a drop and go solution like MSFS or Falcon (and soon to be Lock On: Modern Air Combat) is. If it was easier for non-programmer types to interface to, I'm sure more people would use it. Having a FlightGear cockpit evangelist wouldn't hurt either. :) The thing is though us FGFS guys would want to talk about things that programmer types like to talk about and I think it would potentially bore or confuse the current SimPits list group. IMHO one great thing about the net is the choice (either that you have, or your influence on others ;-)). So I think the more the better. Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: COLLISION DETECTION: possible or not?
On Friday 30 April 2004 21:52, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Norman Vine wrote: Melchior FRANZ writes: * Al West -- Friday 30 April 2004 20:05: Is collision detection part of the model/dynamics set per aircraft? Just I've been flying through the buildings in San Fran all afternoon in the bo105. I'd just like to add that it wasn't my intention to fly into buildings all afternoon - just I saw trying to land *on* buildings as a good next step from being able to pull into a hover. Contact points are per model, but the behavior is AFAIK the same for all models: you can fly through walls, but not through roofs (neither up nor down). I've no idea if this was intended. :-) FlightGear does not do collision detection. FlightGear does Height Above Terrain determination. Right, and also notice that FG samples current terrain elevation once each frame. So when you are one frame short of flying into an object, you still get the normal ground elevation. Now the next frame you are inside the object. FG looks for a highest terrain intersection point that is below your current elevation. Forgive my ignorance... but I think I might be volunteering here. If the path of any contact point over those two frames positions intersects a polgyon then we have a collison yes? Or per frame, if a contact point is on the opposite side of a polygon to any other contact point. Though at high velocities there is the case where you can pass through an object without being detected. Personally I'm looking for things to do with the other processor on my box. And this seems a likely candidate. Perhaps I should spend some time actually looking at some code. Because it samples only once per frame, it will almost never see the wall. And as Norman and other's have pointed out, this logic allows us to taxi into hangers, fly under bridges, even taxi along the lower level of the bay bridge. Although it does - in addition it allows you to taxi through hanger walls, bridge struts etc. Besides, flying into buildings isn't exactly top form these days. Al is just part of my name, not part of the group I belong to ! ;-) ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] autogen.sh question
Hi, Over the past couple of days I've been fine tuning my gentoo ebuild scripts for CVS SimGear and FlightGear. Chris Horler has been great in answering my dumb questions about the automake and autoconf tools. So rather than just ask Chris dumb question I thought I'd come here too ;-) My problem is that if I use autotools version 1.5 or 1.6 that flightgear won't pass configure (simgear is fine past this stage at any of those 2 versions). The failure comes in that automake --add-missing does not copy over config.sub and config.guess. If I set WANT_AUTOMAKE to 1.7 or 1.8 then it preforms this process and it passes ./configure and goes to compile without any problems. My question is should autogen.sh refer to newer versions of autotools or is my Gentoo broken in this respect (however bear in mind I've compiled over 300 packages on this setup and not run into the problem as yet)? Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18
Is all this required? Surely the axes mapping difference is consistant. So that all the would be required is to apply the appropraite mapping at compile time. I don't think there is a need to have glorified or different config files for joysticks. On Tuesday 27 April 2004 15:32, Richard Bytheway wrote: Could the joystick file have a section which defines virtual named axes (pitch, roll, yaw, throttle, hat_x, hat_y etc) which are mapped to the appropriate FG input (elevator, aileron, rudder, throttle, view x and view y), and then have a section for each OS which maps axis numbers to virtual axes as defined in the file. Richard -Original Message- From: Erik Hofman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2004 3:21 pm To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18 Melchior FRANZ wrote: So we'd need two config files for *every* joystick (with more than two axes)? That's IMHO not acceptable. I'd rather prefer a mechanism that makes one and the same config file work for both systems then. After endless times of no discussion and no solutions I hacked something together that works for every situation. Not acceptable won't do in this case unless I see something show up that is elegant and that works in every situation. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel __ __ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk __ __ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL
Under Gentoo: emerge openal then it built fine against CVS Simgear however I'm having trouble getting autogen.sh to pick everything up correctly for building CVS FlightGear. Is anyone here running CVS FlightGear under Gentoo? If not I may have to look into how to construct an ebuild for portage. Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] OpenAL + Gentoo Ebuilds for CVS
Greetings, I can also confirm sound in FlightGear through OpenAL is working well (better with arts support enabled rather than just alsa or oss emulation). Don't quite understand why but it may be because I'm running under KDE. I've finally got as far as I can with the ebuilds on Gentoo for SimGear and FlightGear CVS - rather than posting the information again that I put on a the gentoo forum (http://forums.gentoo.org) I present a link to the message: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=165896 I'd appreciate it if people would take a look at the ebuilds - even if you do not run gentoo - to check if I've got the right dependancies and versions therein. A link to my ebuilds are at: http://www.prbox.com/FlightGear_SimGear_Gentoo_CVS_Ebuilds.tgz I've simply bumped the minor versions up and these ebuilds will replace any current version of SimGear of FlightGear. You'll need to extract them to /usr/local/portage or wherever and make sure that /etc/make.conf has PORTDIR_OVERLAY set accordingly. A quick summary of my system: P3 flightgear # uname -a ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -p openal simgear flightgear --verbose Linux P3 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 #3 SMP Mon Apr 26 02:15:53 UTC 2004 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [ebuild R ] media-libs/openal-20040303 +alsa +arts -debug +esd +mpeg +oggvorbis +sdl [ebuild R ] dev-games/simgear-0.3.6 [ebuild R ] games-simulation/flightgear-0.9.5 -dedicated Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2004 Linux User Developer Expo
On Friday 23 April 2004 10:59, Jon Stockill wrote: They were particularly impressed with the seahawk and hunter models, so if Vivian wants to do a Seafire version of his spitfire model I'm sure they'd be happy to supply some information. Also they said they would be happy to help with anyone who wanted to take photos or measurements from their aircraft. However, I guess they meant for the person to be there rather than rely on them to provide the information. IBM wanted to know if it'd run on their powerseries kit (I don't think anyone's done it so far, but they seemed rather hopeful when I explain the architectures it already runs on), Did you get a contact at IBM? I'm sure they'd be happy to lend/donate a Workstation for development purposes. I can see it will be very likely that IBM may choose to use the Wasp once at other shows in the UK or even Europe to draw crowds and play on the link to DB2 'Stinger'. I am considering at the moment if I can spare the time to prepare a 3D model and cockpit for the Westland Wasp. Cheers for now, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] 2004 Linux User Developer Expo
Greetings All, I think it was very successful show. I estimate we got about 80 or so people a day flying with FlightGear, around 10% managed to land. It was a shame that we were not able to use the controls within the helicopter, due to a 'feature' in HP/Compaq Machine USB controller. However the helicopter was certainly the main attraction and IBM were running a competition to win a camera of which part of the entry was to have visited the FlightGear Stand. It was highly enjoyable to be able to talk to people about something one is very interested in and I am disappointed that both days passed by so quickly. My congratulations go out to the two Jons who did a fantastic job in instructing during the show. It was great to be able to put some faces to email addresses. I took some photos on the second day (I'm not even a photgrapher by any means ;-) which are available at: http://uk2004expo.fotopic.net/ The images are between 300KB and 700KB (1280x1024) - sorry if you are on dialup but I've not had time to crop and compress the images. The Fleet Air Arm Museum are very interested in having their own simulator but this would depend on them being able to find a sponsor - so it's still dubious as to if anything will happen in that respect. However I was talking to one of the members of staff of the Aeronautical Department at Imperial College (London) and they are in the process of looking for an open-source flightsim for Linux and she was very excited to learn about FlightGear. Also we came across another group who want to use FlightGear for displaying and showing UAV data and position. Well I'm not a journalist either - but if anyone has any questions about the show then feel free to ask. Cheers for now, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: base package aircraft and aliases
On Wednesday 17 March 2004 17:15, Norman Vine wrote: Curtis L. Olson writes: 2. We have a *lot* of aircraft in the base package. I suggest we limit the base package to 2 or 3 aircraft at most IMHO better if this is only 1 aircraft though and have a supplemental aircraft package(s) for the rest Note I am concerned about the size of the 'minimal' distribution as there still are many in the world using dial up I would also like to suggest that the base package is made as minimal as possible perhaps one real aircraft and a 'technology' demonstrator that shows off the newest capabilities of the base package (i.e. weather radar, TF etc). My thoughts are that items that change independantly of the base package do not really have to be there. It's a shame that anyone would have to download, say 10, aircraft that have not changed since the update of the base package. Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux Expo Blurb
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 14:35, Jon Stockill wrote: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Erik Hofman wrote: Jon Stockill wrote: At Linux-Expo the FlightGear team hope to have a Westland Wasp (kindly donated by the Fleet Air Arm Museum) linked to a FlightGear simulator to demonstrate the flexibility of the FlightGear application, and allow members of the public to try it first hand. Oh, I would love to see that in action! I've got to work out how to make it work first! :-) Jon, where are you based. I live just off the M5 up from Bridgwater which isn't that far from Yeovilton. If you are nearby I could spend some time to assist you - although I'm warning you now that I'm not very familiar with FlightGear code at the moment. I will definitely be going to the Expo - I think as it's not long to go now that we should sort out what we will be doing there, how will be doing it and what equipment we need. Do we have enough room in the booth to exhibit a Wasp or am I missing something here? Regards, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Linux User Developer Expo 2004]
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 2:29 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: FlightGear has been offered free .org booth space and a possible speaker slot at the Linux User Developer Expo 2004. This is Oct 20-21 at the Olympia Exhibition Centre in London, UK. You don't necessarily need to be a developer to help with the booth, but a moderate working knowledge of FlightGear (and for this show, Linux) is always helpful. Are there any UK people who might be interested in staffing a booth, bringing a pc, etc.? Anyone looking for an excuse to visit London next October? Based on past experience we should try to get this organized early so we can get a booth. If you register late, you either don't get a booth at all, or the booth you do get is in the mens room next to all the other late register-ers. :-) I'd be happy to help out I can make boths days definitely. Cheers, Al ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] UK, Concorde Simulator?
Greetings, First off this is only really going to apply to people in England and Wales (unless people are willing to travel further - we have an International Airport locally). On the local news (Points West) they were on about a Concorde Museum somewhere in the Bristol area. They were just plugging the fact that they were selling DVDs of which part will be used for funding of the Musuem. That is all I know about the museum so far. My thoughts were to volunteer my services into building them a Concorde simulator. I understand they have a complete Concorde. This would be great to get me up to speed on how flightgear works etc. Don't worry I took this approach when working on Tornado, Eurofighter and FOAS, and it worked out well enough. My question is would anyone be interested in joining in? I'd hope to be able to approach the museum (and then further candidates thereafter) with a good number of people to make the project a goer. I've not contacted them yet but I would probably do so in the New Year. I have contacts in Airbus which may help (although they don't know my plans yet) and also over 10 years in the defence industry working on Fastjets, mainly in CIU Systems Integration, Systems Integration RD and Certification. I've also worked in Canal Restoration groups for a good few years. Working as a volunteer I would not expect to be paid for my time or travel (however it has happened in the past). I would also expect to pay for my own food and drink. I would not expect to pay for tools or equipment, materials, specialist labour, HSE requirements or certification, logistics, etc. If anyone is directly interested then please email me off list. If emailing me please make sure you put at least the word concorde in the mail itself so I can pull your message out of the spam, but I'd prefer you use the email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Seasons Greetings, Al West Somerset, England. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.551 / Virus Database: 343 - Release Date: 11/12/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel]F-16cockpit)
If Curt doesn't mind providing the facility, I like the idea. It would be nice not to be dependant on the facilities offered by people outside of flightgear to an extent. Also I'm going to be asking a lot of dumb question about input in flightgear and I don't want it to be too public ;-) Anyway I joined simpits.org and posted a question: http://199.254.199.21/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=f0d84210e7c118094d0d df81f733a2b9;act=ST;f=15;t=1 When we first looked at OpenGC back in the fall of '01 Curt mentioned the idea of including a repository for the software. It might be worth revisiting that idea at this time. There is some synergy to be gained working with a winner. We might entice some of the software types to think hardware and also create some links from the various cockpit builder sites and support groups over to FG. OTH I could set up a server for a website, email, CVS, etc. It would be a little slow, DSL connection is 768/512 and service might be a little spotty as one develops their adminstrative skills (not a lot of experience in that area). Either way, I'll spend a little time researching what is involved with setting up and running an email list. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 05/12/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] F-16 cockpit
Hi Manuel, I'm currently working on my own hardware that I'm going to connect to flightgear. It has a RS-232 serial port with USB option. Currently I'm busy writing the firmware and host software. http://cockpit.varxec.de/electronics/PIC_homecockpit_control.html Wow, what you have done so far looks impressive. I've not even got off the drawing board yet. At the moment I'm trying to work out the best trade off for hardware components vs. connectivity. However I'm getting drawn in to do a soft key panel using some a touchscreen 7 LCDs that I've just seen, £160 (UK Pounds) is quite tempting. I don't know if this is the right place to be discussing this (is the devel mail-list intended for software development? If so could a hardware development mail-list be set up?). It would be interesting to have a place where the hardware people could talk. I'm not sure whether there are many people involved in hardware building around flightgear. So far you are the only person to respond saying you build hardware - not that doesn't mean there are more people there. Maybe it's something that the users would be more interested with. Cheers for now, Al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 05/12/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Speed of jpg-httpd / Another FlightGear movie)
Forgive my ignorance on flightgear but wouldn't it be 'nice' to record a flight then play it back for the purpose of recording. In that case you'd be able to turn up all the graphics detail set a resolution suitable for PAL/NTSC DVD, VCD etc. Additions could be to have a director mode either in realtime or with tags in the recorded data to select views and suchlike. Just an idea. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.542 / Virus Database: 336 - Release Date: 18/11/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] FAQ suggestion.
Have you tried using an autoresponder. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis L. Olson Sent: 11 November 2003 20:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] FAQ suggestion. I think we need to add something like the following to the FAQ: Please read section #2.2 and #2.3 of the FAQ before emailing Curt about FTP problems. I'm not sure if that get's too recursive, and it probably wouldn't do any good. sigh Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.flightgear.org/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/fl ightgear-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Lee's TSR2
I tried to capture some video on my digital camera, but it wasn't worth sharing. I need to come up with a better way to make web videos of a live running application (under Linux.) :-) PC into a scan convertor or use TV out and record direct to DV tape then edit and compress afterwards. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 - Release Date: 09/10/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Linux Hardware
Title: Message
You
might want to take a look at www.microchip.com who do the PIC
microcontroller. They will usually send free samples. They provide a
great IDE. Also they do a USB chip. I do a bit of PIC development
myself - mostly LCD, MIDI and keyboard interfaces. I've been meaning to
look at the USB chip to see what is envolved in bespoke keyboard on USB
interfaces. I've also been toying with the idea of building my own panels
- probably will end up using a serial bus with IDs for units and then do the
interfacing to the PC using a PIC and USB. We have develop our own boards,
software and housings in house. We have a variety of PIC blowers, CNC and
machining equipment. If you are interested please feel free to email
me. We are based in the SW of the United Kingdom.
Cheers,
Al
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discussionsCc: John FingerSubject: [Flightgear-devel]
Linux Hardware
Hi,
Over the course of the last year I've been trying
to find simulation hardware (MCP,EFIS,EICAS,etc) that works with Linux and
would support open source programs like FlightGear and OpenGC. All I could
find was Windows stuff ( EPIC, FSUIPC, etc). And there did not seem to be a
lot of interest in developing stuff for open source software under
Linux.
Well, I never followed the herd and was not about
to move over to Windows or FS.
So I sat down and designed an interface board for
the MCP and EFIS as starters.Turns out, the board is somewhat generic in
that it takes rotary enconder data and key scan circuits and along with the
Linux driver stuffs the data into a small file that the application can
read/write.Using the board goeslike this:
The board has a standard parallel port interface
(I wanted to use IEEE1284 EPP but opted for the most common, simplest for the
moment). It will run either on your printer port or any additional parallel
port board (ISA or PCI) you care to install or I've got a custom ISA board
with three programmable ports I used for development and testing.
Installing/using the board is standard
Linux.
Compile the module driver -- source and makefiles
will be provided
Create the device - mknod /dev/mcp u 254
0
Install the modules - insmod
mcp.o
Create you application - something like
this
/**
main()
{
:
fd = open( "/dev/mcp",
O_RDWR);
int result = read(fd, mesg, sizeof
mcp_data);
// Convert from char string to data
types
memcpy( char * mcp_data, char * mesg,
sizeof mcp_data );
// Now do your application stuff
whatever
::
close(fd);
}
***/
So if you were running a MCP panel the data would
be airspeed, mach, heading, vvi, and altitude. Plus the state of the
pushbutton switches onthe panel which would go to the FMC for the
appropriate action and control of the system autopilot(s) and such. Or you
could configure it as a NAV/RADIO panel and process the data as frequencies.
Or whatever.
The board and driver run in kernel space and use
an interrupt to process changes in the state of the connected
panel
I'm still testing the board but getting close to
a decision on moving from a breadboard to a PCB layout. Best guesstimate on
cost is between $100 and $200. ( I have no idea on what the manufacturing
costs beyond the production of the bare PCB look like, as always very
dependent on size of the lot and quantity discounts for parts and amortization
of start-up costs,etc,etc)
Trying to gauge the interest in such an item and
welcome any feedback, questions, etc.
For a look at some of the hardware panelsI
plan to use check out http://www.a-g-t.com
Regards
John W.
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[Flightgear-devel] OT: FlashROM writing
Sorry this is completely off topic - well not so much as you first think as these settop boxes are going to become part of my flightgear rig. Basically I'm trying to find out how to write data (GRUB and a linux kernel etc.) into the FlashROM on my NT-150 Settop box. They are basically a single board PC with all the usual stuff on but it has 4MB of FlashROM that it will boot from if nothing else boots before it. If someone could point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful. I've already hunted around on google and can't seem to get past pages and pages about updated CDRW drivers and other PC peripherals. Cheers, Al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.518 / Virus Database: 316 - Release Date: 11/09/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Standardisation and cumulas
Paul, I'd be happy to take this on for you. You may wish to have a look at www.tsew.net (just something I knocked up in 30 minutes for myself). I code in raw HTML. Also know a bit about PHP and more about MySQL. Feel free to contact me via email. Cheers, Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Morriss Sent: 02 September 2003 21:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Standardisation and cumulas Hi all, As some of you know, I am working on the networking (and game/scenario sever) side of flightgear, I am merrily churning out code, is there a 'coding standard' or standard way of coding, commenting and creating module headers on the project? On a different note I have created an account where cumulas's website belongs, are there any web designers around who fancy the job? I can code C++ but can't produce a good website. Also is there an official logo that can be used on the site? Regards Paul __ __ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/fl ightgear-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?
I've got a few machines free. Linux: P3-800Mhz 512MB Dual CPU 1GHz 512MB Windows 2000: 1GHz P3 512MB 1800+XP 512MB Windows XP: 1GHz P3 256MB Trouble is I don't have terragear built as yet for linux or windows and I have satellite internet so the uplink is only at a poor 28Kbps. But if I can be of help don't hesitate to shout for me. Cheers, Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Hofman Sent: 26 August 2003 22:37 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers? Hi, Curtis is going to do a new scenery release but is unable to get the SRTM30 data include due to time restrictions (they should be generated within a day or two). We might be able to get it going for him if there are enough volunteers to create the data for him. This require quite some dedicated CPU time, so could everybody who wants to participate step forward please? I am volunteering for a good part with a dual processor O200. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/fl ightgear-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] OT: US Stuff Was:Some European cities satelitephotos
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 13:46, David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson writes: Yeah, we still have a lot of My governor can beat up your governor bumper stickers and t-shirts ... it would be a shame for them to go to waste. We obviously can't use them in MN any more. Remember that, unlike that actor from the monkey movies who once became California governor, the actor from the action movies cannot go on to become president without a constitutional ammendment. Is Arnold not a citizen? No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States. But at the time of adoption of your constitution I don't think Arnie was a citizen. Cheers, Al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release Date: 14/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] J-22 progress report
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Culp Sent: 16 August 2003 13:52 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] J-22 progress report Now I only have to make some animations for gears, airbrakes, wheels, afterburners, front/back flaps, ailerons, rudder, canopy and a galtling gun:) and link objects with FG. Will the engine nozzles be variable geometry? The nozzle position (i.e. diameter of opening) is modeled in JSBSim, but so far no airplane model makes use of it. I'm not familiar with the J22 - but isn't nozzle position - the actual angled position of the nozzle - and the aperature two different things? As an aside the harrier (YASim model) uses the mixture control to vector the thrust from the engine albeit it is from 1 main nozzle rather than 4 nozzles. But it's a great start. I'm in the process of building a AV8B model for flightgear and this got me thinking about a few things. One of them being dual control. Cheers, Al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release Date: 14/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Small scenery comparison
Well I was hoping to create some scenery based on the 25m DEM files for the UK. I have access to the data but at the moment I'm struggling in compiling flightgear and terragear. Once I get that out of the way I hope to post some samples here. I'm also working on a Harrier model (probably GR7 rather than FSR2 or such). Cheers, Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Hofman Sent: 13 August 2003 18:50 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Small scenery comparison Hi, This is just a small comparison between MSFS2004, MSFS2004/MegaScenery --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FW: [Flightgear-users] Harrier Flight Model
Hi, I was the guy posting in the Users group about the Harrier Flight Model. Hopefully I can gain a little more info here and any hints or tips on building A/C models with 3DS for use with FG. Cheers, Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnt Karlsen Sent: 10 August 2003 18:22 To: FlightGear user discussions Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Harrier Flight Model On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 16:24:18 +0100, Allan West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi there, I was quite excited to find the Harrier flight model. First I notice there is not a 3D Cockpit or Aircraft Model for it. How do I go about creating these. I am lucky enough to have 3DS max and the skills to use it. ..welcome aboard as a new FG developer. ;-) You have built cvs FG? (not required, but recommended _vehemently_. ;-)) ..http://flightgear.org/Docs/ is slanted more towards fdm and infrastructure development, than 3d modelling, so I cc this. Also what are the extra controls for the harrier - namely the nozzle swivel. Any tips on how flightgear is used to control this beast would be gratefully received. I had many a happy hour with AV8B - ..you _can_ set it up any way you please, and if your setup _is_ good, your way becomes the standard to beat. ;-) although this was more of a game than a sim but it was still predictably tricky landing in the hover. Cheers, Al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Building cvs fg - no sgPathSplit in SimGear
I'm looking (I did a grep -r -i pathsplit * in the simgear subdir. I did take a look at sg_path.cxx but the closest thing in there is dir() - nothing in there that will return a list of strings. Have I got an old version?: sg_path.cxx v1.1.1.1 2002/09/07 02:57:42 Cheers, Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis L. Olson Sent: 14 August 2003 01:07 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building cvs fg - no sgPathSplit in SimGear You should be able to find this code in simgear/misc/sg_path.[ch]xx Regards, Curt. Allan West writes: Hi, I'm still on my quest for a CVS build under cygwin. Latest error is : tileentry.cxx: In member function `void FGTileEntry::load(const std::string, bool)': tileentry.cxx:574: `sgPathSplit' undeclared (first use this function) On checking the simgear source there does not appear to have the function defined. I checked into CVS for source, plib, SimGear and TerraGear at about 7pm (GMT). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Is CVS Down?
Ah seems to be working fine now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al West Sent: 12 August 2003 01:23 To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Is CVS Down? Hi guys, Is the CVS service at cvs.flightgear.org down at the moment. Being new to CVS how can I diagnose any problems I may get? i.e. if I was having problems browsing a website I'd first ping it and then try to make a connection on port 80. Is CVS taken down for regular maintainence? Is this something that is published or notified? Sorry for my n00b questions. Cheers, Al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/fl ightgear-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Building cvs fg - no sgPathSplit in SimGear
Thanks for the all the help guys I finally got a working version of flightgear running just fine. However that won't be the last of me if you subscribe to terragear lists too. I notice that there is a Golden Gate bridge pictured in the clouds3d_gg.jpg that Norman Vine posted about 2 weeks back - I look forward to when 3Dclouds arrives in the CVS. Is the GG Bridge a user added addition above the standard scenery or part of the CVS set? Also what is the objects.txt file used for - a goggle of objects.txt flightgear (which I find picks up a good set of flightgear-user/devel posts) didn't enlighten me. Cheers, Al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Building cvs fg - no sgPathSplit in SimGear
Ah I think the technical term is br - I checked out 0.2 instead of 0.3 Sorry for the noise. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norman Vine Sent: 14 August 2003 01:47 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Building cvs fg - no sgPathSplit in SimGear Al West writes: I'm looking (I did a grep -r -i pathsplit * in the simgear subdir. I did take a look at sg_path.cxx but the closest thing in there is dir() - nothing in there that will return a list of strings. Have I got an old version?: sg_path.cxx v1.1.1.1 2002/09/07 02:57:42 Yes // $Id: sg_path.cxx,v 1.6 2003/08/09 02:54:15 curt Exp $ My advice is todo a fresh checkout of SimGear from the CVS Just to make sure you don't have any other old files HTH Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/fl ightgear-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Building cvs fg - no sgPathSplit in SimGear
you subscribe to terragear lists too. I notice that there is a Golden Gate bridge pictured in the clouds3d_gg.jpg that Norman Vine posted about 2 weeks back - I look forward to when 3Dclouds arrives in the CVS. Is the GG Bridge a user added addition above the standard scenery or part of the CVS set? Also what is the objects.txt file GG bridge and downtown buildings are in the CVS fgfs base package. Beware! the one on cvs.flightgear.org, not the one on rockfish.net that is obsolete. Hmmm I've updated from CVS using Cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9 co data Last modified files showing are 942058.stg and candlestickpark-fb.ac at 27/07/2003 22:18 I've checked this against the CVS query engine (cvs.flightgear.org) A clue might be at KSFO I don't see the terminal building - the static aircraft or anything else other than randomly populated objects. I'm running on windows 2000 - CVS fg built with cygwin (last check in 5am GMT this morning). Is there something else I should be doing? I'm not getting confused with any other data directory on my PC as I only have the one - and that's the devel 0.9 data. Cheers, Al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Glut
I also use A7V333 but running windows 2000 SP4. Sometimes flightgear will start with sound and other times it won't. There are no other apps running using the soundcard. However I remember having numerous problems getting a SB-Live 1024 working right with Windows XP - in the end I had to go through a number of Soundblaster and Windows drivers before I found a set that worked correctly. Have you tried a windows update recently? Sorry I can't be of more help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reichow Sent: 13 August 2003 04:19 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Glut Perhaps, Jim. However, I believe that my problem has to do with the number of concurrently playing sounds and plib being able to open up a channel to output sound on. I think this because if I stop all other applications before starting FG, it will work just fine. Otherwise, (if I have Winamp playing, for instance) it gives me an error that I can't remember while here at work. Anyway, it stems from the slDSP::open code: result = waveOutOpen( hWaveOut, WAVE_MAPPER, Format, 0, 0L, WAVE_FORMAT_QUERY ); That fails some way that I can't remember, but it's not an 8-bit problem. Also, for reference, I have an ASUS A7V333 with the C-Media 8738 audio chip, running WinXP/Cygwin. If anyone happens to know how to fix this problem, feel free to let me know. Thanks... -Chris Reichow [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] 3d clouds error
Ouch - the nvidia drivers don't support 24bpp. Are you running X in 16bpp or 24bpp? I think 3d clouds need a 24bpp display. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] 3d clouds error
Or at least the windows 2000 drivers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al West Sent: 14 August 2003 22:57 To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] 3d clouds error Ouch - the nvidia drivers don't support 24bpp. Are you running X in 16bpp or 24bpp? I think 3d clouds need a 24bpp display. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Is CVS Down?
Hi guys, Is the CVS service at cvs.flightgear.org down at the moment. Being new to CVS how can I diagnose any problems I may get? i.e. if I was having problems browsing a website I'd first ping it and then try to make a connection on port 80. Is CVS taken down for regular maintainence? Is this something that is published or notified? Sorry for my n00b questions. Cheers, Al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
