Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes/Spoilers

2005-03-14 Thread Erik Hofman
John Wojnaroski wrote: Hi, The aircraft file for the 747-100 provided by Jon for the SCALE3X expo does not contain a drag coeefficinet for the spoliers. I tried adding a value by copying that portion from the 737 xml file, but it does not appear to work. In that the value generated by the spoiler

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-12 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 10 February 2005 18:19, Martin Spott wrote: > "Vivian Meazza" wrote: > > James Turner wrote > > > >> > While we are are it, do we already have consensus on > >> > which keys to use for these functions - are the keys > >> > consistent across different aircraft and FDM's ? > >> > >> The k

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-11 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > I agree. Although I do think the spoilers of the Fokker 100 are employed > automatically on touchdown, but I'm not yet certain about that. You're absolutely correct, Erik. I don't ask people to force-match their aicrcraft model on a common standard where the _real_ aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: The Fokker 100 has both speedbrake (Ctrl+B) and Spoiler (Shift+S) support. The model has been redesigned and improved significantly but there seemed to have a typo introduced for the animations. Is it a tall order to kindly request aircraft modellers to coordinate on a consisten

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-11 Thread Martin Spott
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote: > For commercial airliners at least, it will make more sense to map the reverse > to Ctrl+PgDown. The reason being is that the throttles are mapped to PgUp > and PgDown, and thrust-reverse is part of the throttles. Erik Hofman wrote: > The Fokker 100 has both speedb

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-11 Thread Erik Hofman
James Turner wrote: I've been spending as much time as possible over the past few days just flying around (I've had a very long gap where FG wouldn't build and I was busy with other things), but this has raised a small issue which may indicate something about my flying habits... Basically, I ha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On February 10, 2005 08:27 am, James Turner wrote: > BTW, there is no keybinding for reverse thrust : I'm going to test with > some nasal code i found in one of the joystick files, but is there a > free key I should use? Ctrl-R perhaps? For commercial airliners at least, it will make more sense to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread dave
On Thursday 10 February 2005 15:51, Giles Robertson wrote: > > Can't remember if the speedbrakes actually slow the aircraft on the > > 737 but the animation should work when you hit Ctrl-B > > The animation works, but has no noticeable affect on airspeed or > attitude for all airspeeds I tested. En

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Giles Robertson
> Can't remember if the speedbrakes actually slow the aircraft on the > 737 but the animation should work when you hit Ctrl-B The animation works, but has no noticeable affect on airspeed or attitude for all airspeeds I tested. Energy analysis of a log file didn't show any more energy dumped, eit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Martin Spott
"Vivian Meazza" wrote: > James Turner wrote >> > While we are are it, do we already have consensus on which keys to use >> > for these functions - are the keys consistent across different aircraft >> > and FDM's ? >> >> The keys do seem to be standard, j/k for spoilers and Ctrl-B for >> speedbra

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
James Turner wrote > > While we are are it, do we already have consensus on which keys to use > > for these functions - are the keys consistent across different aircraft > > and FDM's ? > > The keys do seem to be standard, j/k for spoilers and Ctrl-B for > speedbrake, the issue of course is gues

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Innis Cunningham
James Turner writes The keys do seem to be standard, j/k for spoilers and Ctrl-B for speedbrake, the issue of course is guessing for a given model which surfaces are assigned to which name. I guess 'things on the wings' are spoilers, and 'things not on the wings' are speed-brakes? Except tha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread James Turner
On 10 Feb 2005, at 13:03, Martin Spott wrote: While we are are it, do we already have consensus on which keys to use for these functions - are the keys consistent across different aircraft and FDM's ? The keys do seem to be standard, j/k for spoilers and Ctrl-B for speedbrake, the issue of course

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: > So, apologies for the confusion, I didn't check closely enough, and the > two aircraft I happen to have been using the most, the F16 and the > A320, don't seem to have either system installed. While we are are it, do we already have consensus on which keys to use for these

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread James Turner
On 10 Feb 2005, at 11:57, Innis Cunningham wrote: Basically, I have not yet found an aircraft where the speedbrakes or spoilers seem to work, either visually or in terms of slowing the plane down. From looking at data/keyboard.xml, I can see the current bindings are j/k for the spoilers, and Ctr

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi James James Turner writes Basically, I have not yet found an aircraft where the speedbrakes or spoilers seem to work, either visually or in terms of slowing the plane down. From looking at data/keyboard.xml, I can see the current bindings are j/k for the spoilers, and Ctrl-B for the speedbr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: > Basically, I have not yet found an aircraft where the speedbrakes or > spoilers seem to work, either visually or in terms of slowing the plane > down. From looking at data/keyboard.xml, I can see the current bindings > are j/k for the spoilers, and Ctrl-B for the speedbrak