Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels proprty change

2004-10-31 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 28 October 2004 09:45, Erik Hofman wrote: David Culp wrote: Hi Erik, I was wondering if the enable and path properties for the submodel system should be moved out of /sim/systems/submodels and into /sim/submodels instead. This will complete the migration out of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels proprty change

2004-10-31 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 31 October 2004 16:10, Lee Elliott wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 09:45, Erik Hofman wrote: David Culp wrote: Hi Erik, I was wondering if the enable and path properties for the submodel system should be moved out of /sim/systems/submodels and into /sim/submodels

RE: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Vivian Meazza
David Culp asked: My submodel config file is not getting read at startup (I'm getting file not found). Is anyone using CVS FlightGear and Linux having this problem also? Thought I'd check before I go over the config file for the fiftieth time looking for an error. I'm getting the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 04:08, David Culp wrote: My submodel config file is not getting read at startup (I'm getting file not found). Are you getting file not found or No systems model specified for this model!? Is anyone using CVS FlightGear and Linux having this problem also?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread David Culp
Is anyone using CVS FlightGear and Linux having this problem also? Thought I'd check before I go over the config file for the fiftieth time looking for an error. Are you using the generic config or a custom made? If you are using a custom config, you must remember to override the generic

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Erik Hofman
David Culp wrote: Unable to read submodels file: /home/dave/FlightGear/data/Aircraft/FW190/submodels.xml Did you already load the file in your browser to see if it's XML compliant? Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Vivian Meazza
David Culp wrote: ... snip ... The submodel system has been moved away from the Systems code. It's now an independent subsystem of FG. I think the spitfire submodels are working because I get a crash due to a crease token, which implies the smoke submodel is being created. I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread David Culp
Never mind. I somehow got some DOS line endings in my file. Must have been a cut/paste from a DOS document. Dave -- David Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 15:09, David Culp wrote: The submodel system has been moved away from the Systems code. It's now an independent subsystem of FG. Silly me! I must have confused submodels with systems. I thought you where talking about systems. -- Roy Vegard Ovesen

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-24 Thread Vivian Meazza
On 23 October 2004 21:22 Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Saturday 23 October 2004 21:14, Vivian Meazza wrote: I've finally found time to revisit this problem. The FGFS is working fine with updates up to 15th Oct. Paths, etc. are good. I've updated and recompiled Simgear and Flightgear.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote some time ago: ... snip ... I've gone back to cvs update as of 15 Oct: all the aircraft work correctly. I conclude that this problem is caused by your new code. Unless you can confirm that the instruments work in all models in your location, or tell me exactly what I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-23 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 23 October 2004 21:14, Vivian Meazza wrote: I've finally found time to revisit this problem. The FGFS is working fine with updates up to 15th Oct. Paths, etc. are good. I've updated and recompiled Simgear and Flightgear. Nothing else has been changed. Should work, right? Wrong:

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Roy Vegard Ovesen Sent: 20 October 2004 00:32 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Tuesday 19 October 2004 19:42, Vivian Meazza wrote: It's not obviously a path problem. My preferences.xml file was updated at 15:22 yesterday, and has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 20 October 2004 12:03, Vivian Meazza wrote: I have checked the path - I'm was the downloaded cvs data from 1522 Monday. I have re-downloaded cvs data and source this morning and recompiled. I've changed the hunter to use the generic files - it already has custom electrics and

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Roy Vegard Ovesen: Sent: 20 October 2004 13:31 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Wednesday 20 October 2004 12:03, Vivian Meazza wrote: I have checked the path - I'm was the downloaded cvs data from 1522 Monday. I have re-downloaded cvs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-20 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 20 October 2004 15:09, Vivian Meazza wrote: Try to run Flightgear with --log-level=info and look for these lines: Reading instruments from data/Aircraft/Generic/generic-instrumentation.xml Adding subsystem instrumentation Reading systems from

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-devel- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roy Vegard Ovesen Sent: 19 October 2004 00:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Tuesday 19 October 2004 01:00, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-19 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Tuesday 19 October 2004 09:47, Vivian Meazza wrote: What instruments are not working, and what inputs do they use? Hunter/Seahawk: Altimeter, IAS, Mach, rate-of-climb, and turn-and-slip When I checked the Hunter and Seahawk last night all these instruments worked. IIRC the Mach

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-19 Thread David Culp
On Sunday 17 October 2004 02:18 pm, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: Hi all! I've not touched the new submodel.*xx sources yet because I want your opinion on how I should implement it into the other configurable systems. The existing configurable systems are the pitot, static, and vacuum systems.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-19 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: I think most gyros are electrical. Certainly in the 40's/50's. Really ? From what I've learnt electrically driven gyros are sort of a modern invention where aircraft manufactures tend to rely more and more on a working electrical system Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: Sent: 19 October 2004 09:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Tuesday 19 October 2004 09:47, Vivian Meazza wrote: What instruments are not working, and what inputs do they use? Hunter/Seahawk: Altimeter, IAS, Mach, rate

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-19 Thread Erik Hofman
David Culp wrote: I think it would be best if the submodel system is moved out of the Systems directory altogether and made into a subsystem, like the AI manager. The only reason I put it with the systems originally is that I first used it to model a gun. It quickly became generalized to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Vivian Meazza wrote: Sent: 19 October 2004 10:34 To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: Sent: 19 October 2004 09:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Tuesday 19 October 2004

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-19 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Tuesday 19 October 2004 19:42, Vivian Meazza wrote: It's not obviously a path problem. My preferences.xml file was updated at 15:22 yesterday, and has the right paths to the new generic files. However, the properties relating to instruments are empty - hence broken instruments :-). But if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-18 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Monday 18 October 2004 00:24, Vivian Meazza wrote: The ability to set a serviceability state for each submodel system would seem to be the correct approach, but if I understand your proposal correctly, it will end up in more files overall. Actually the systems and instrumentation

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: A quick grep through the base package revealed that three aircraft use the subsystem: F16, Spitfire and Hunter. I will of course move the subsystem config to system config so that they don't get broken. I have used the F-16 mostly as a demonstrator. I wouldn't mind much

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Vegard Ovesen wrote: Sent: 18 October 2004 09:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Monday 18 October 2004 00:24, Vivian Meazza wrote: The ability to set a serviceability state for each submodel system would seem to be the correct approach, but if I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-18 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Vegard Ovesen wrote: Sent: 18 October 2004 09:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Monday 18 October 2004 00:24, Vivian Meazza wrote: The ability to set a serviceability state for each submodel system would seem to be the correct

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Roy, Dave, Vivian, Erik One thing that is not clear to me, is what happens with the submodel stuff in a multi-display environment? Is there any facility for replicating and syncing these objects across multiple visual channels? Not yet, but I haven't forgotten about it.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt asked: Sent: 18 October 2004 15:47 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels Vivian Meazza wrote: Vegard Ovesen wrote: Sent: 18 October 2004 09:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Monday 18 October

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: Sent: 18 October 2004 09:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels On Monday 18 October 2004 00:24, Vivian Meazza wrote: The ability to set a serviceability state for each submodel system would seem to be the correct approach

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-18 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Tuesday 19 October 2004 00:10, Vivian Meazza wrote: OK, I've just updated cvs, and the inputs to some of my 3d instruments are now broken in the Hunter, Seahawk and Spitfire. How do I get them back? What instruments are not working, and what inputs do they use? I just tried the Hunter,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-18 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Tuesday 19 October 2004 01:00, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Tuesday 19 October 2004 00:10, Vivian Meazza wrote: OK, I've just updated cvs, and the inputs to some of my 3d instruments are now broken in the Hunter, Seahawk and Spitfire. How do I get them back? What instruments are not

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels

2004-10-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: Sent: 17 October 2004 20:19 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Submodels Hi all! I've not touched the new submodel.*xx sources yet because I want your opinion on how I should implement it into the other configurable systems.