Re: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Peter B. West wrote: I mentioned the need for a logo some months ago to an acquaintance of mine who is a graphics design student. She came up with some interesting ideas, but they were incomplete the last time I spoke to her (just before Christmas.) I will try to get in touch with her

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 12.01.2003 11:40:57 Bernd Brandstetter wrote: After having tried to understand how fop works by just reading the code for a couple of hours now, FOrtress inevitably comes to my mind ;-) (in the sense of: Not easy to get in, at least for a newbie) :-) Unfortunately, Fortress is already

cvs commit: xml-fop/src/documentation skinconf.xml

2003-01-13 Thread jeremias
jeremias2003/01/13 02:21:45 Modified:src/documentation skinconf.xml Log: Fixes DTD and enables FOP logo for PDF files. Submitted by: Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Revision ChangesPath 1.5 +10 -5 xml-fop/src/documentation/skinconf.xml Index: skinconf.xml

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 12.01.2003 04:59:36 Jeff Turner wrote: On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 05:43:37PM +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi Jeff I've applied your patches locally. Thanks. Everything's ok with the first one, but with the second one I'm having problems (not your fault!): - I had to add adjust the

Embedding documentation

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Is it OK if I just throw out some usage patterns in the embedding documentation? There's some contradicting information there and also stuff that isn't that easy to understand. InputHandler and friends dates back to pre-JAXP times. JAXP is known to most users doing embedding and is most natural to

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Re: Embedding documentation

2003-01-13 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Is it OK if I just throw out some usage patterns in the embedding documentation? There's some contradicting information there and also stuff that isn't that easy to understand. InputHandler and friends dates back to pre-JAXP times. JAXP is known to most users doing

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FOP compliance in XML?

2003-01-13 Thread Benoit Maisonny
Hi, Is there an XML version of the tables in http://xml.apache.org/fop/compliance.html? Alternatively, I'd be interested to have the compliance information (comments) merged into Chuck Paussa's FO/FOP schema. Either way, if nobody is doing it already, then I volunteer. Benoit Maisonny --

Re: FOP compliance in XML?

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Yes, see here: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/compliance.xml?rev=1.5content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup Volunteers are always welcome. :-) What exactly would you like to do with it? On 13.01.2003 12:52:29 Benoit Maisonny wrote: Hi, Is there an XML

RE: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Andy Joslin
Why don't we announce a competition. I've been thinking of writing to this list for a while to offer 'graphic' help to the project (My background is Art Design not CS) and would love to take part :-) regards Andy

Re: PDF Output consideration 1.3 vs. 1.4

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I've read the PDF/X FAQ and there seems to be more than only PDF/X-3. There are at least 5 standards. Scary thing. Anyway, I think it should be possible to make the PDF library configurable to generate PDF 1.3 only. But implementing even one of the PDF/X standards can't be a current topic for us

Re: FOP compliance in XML?

2003-01-13 Thread Benoit Maisonny
This looks perfect for my needs! I am working on an FO quick reference that includes compliance information for fop and xep. Thanks Jeremias Maerki wrote: Yes, see here:

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cvs commit: xml-fop/examples/servlet/src FopPrintServlet.java FopServlet.java

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cvs commit: xml-fop/contrib/servlet/src FopPrintServlet.java FopServlet.java

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RE: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Oleg Tkachenko wrote: I like it. First of all FOP is well-known among the whole xml community for ages (what costs much) and secondly fop word has a Yes, this is the primary consideration. The only reason why I mention it now at all is that changing such things is always better done sooner

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RE: FOP compliance in XML?

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Benoit Maisonny wrote: This looks perfect for my needs! I am working on an FO quick reference that includes compliance information for fop and xep. A couple of caveats: 1) The html version on our website is misleading because the color-coding is scrubbed out in our forrest conversion (I am

docs/xslfoRef.xml

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Hi there There's a xslfoRef.xml containing a small reference for XSL-FO. An XSLT exists for converting the reference to FO. It still reflects the Candidate Recommendation, so it is outdated. Can I simply delete it or should I move it somewhere, too? It's the only thing left in the docs directory

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RE: thoughts on fonts (was: text-decoration)

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Can we sketch that on the Wiki in some simple way? Defining some Java interfaces and things like that? Anyway, as you mentioned we should sort out things like Session and Document on another page first. OK, I just put a proposal out there in the section discussing

cvs commit: xml-fop/examples/fo/tables background.fo borders.fo break.fo headfoot.fo keep.fo omit.fo space.fo widowsorphans.fo

2003-01-13 Thread jeremias
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cvs commit: xml-fop/docs/examples/tables background.fo borders.fo break.fo headfoot.fo keep.fo omit.fo space.fo widowsorphans.fo

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cvs commit: xml-fop/docs/graphics fop.jpg linux.bmp listgeometry.gif page.gif xml_fax.tif xml_feather.gif xml_feather_transparent.gif

2003-01-13 Thread jeremias
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Re: Embedding documentation

2003-01-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Yes, but on a new Wiki page on the new API. We've got to scratch together what already has been discussed and put that on that page. I made a page behind the Avalonization link, currently focussing on API issues. Someone with more Avalon background should add internal

Re: docs/xslfoRef.xml

2003-01-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote: There's a xslfoRef.xml containing a small reference for XSL-FO. An XSLT exists for converting the reference to FO. It still reflects the Candidate Recommendation, so it is outdated. Can I simply delete it or should I move it somewhere, too? Keep it for the moment. I think

Re: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Bernd Brandstetter
On Monday 13 January 2003 11:01, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Bernd Brandstetter wrote: feeling inspired by your's and Oleg's suggestions and also a little bit bored this Sunday afternoon, I thought I'll take the chance and improve my Gimping skills. Here's the result :-) Not bad. Something like

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Bernd Brandstetter
On Monday 13 January 2003 11:05, Jeremias Maerki wrote: On 12.01.2003 11:40:57 Bernd Brandstetter wrote: After having tried to understand how fop works by just reading the code for a couple of hours now, FOrtress inevitably comes to my mind ;-) (in the sense of: Not easy to get in, at least

Re: docs/xslfoRef.xml

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Cool, thanks. On 13.01.2003 19:57:46 J.Pietschmann wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: There's a xslfoRef.xml containing a small reference for XSL-FO. An XSLT exists for converting the reference to FO. It still reflects the Candidate Recommendation, so it is outdated. Can I simply delete it or

Re: Embedding documentation

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Very good. I'll start adding to it as soon as I've finished moving files around and documenting the embedding samples. On 13.01.2003 19:55:22 J.Pietschmann wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: Yes, but on a new Wiki page on the new API. We've got to scratch together what already has been discussed

bidi wiki

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Oleg: I just added a comment on your bidi wiki, in the Reordering the text section, regarding the line-by-line nature of reordering Middle-Eastern language text. This is something you no doubt already know, but was not clear to me until recently, and it may be helpful. The comments might be

Overconstraint wiki

2003-01-13 Thread Rhett Aultman
Gang, I just added some newish comments to the overconstraint wiki page. Not much, but it's something. I know some people out there said they had some things to add...please do. I'm hoping to get this ball rolling so that development can get underway as Keiron's work on layout continues.

Re: thoughts on fonts (was: text-decoration)

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 13.01.2003 19:18:18 Victor Mote wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: Can we sketch that on the Wiki in some simple way? Defining some Java interfaces and things like that? Anyway, as you mentioned we should sort out things like Session and Document on another page first. OK, I just put a

Re: thoughts on fonts (was: text-decoration)

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 11.01.2003 18:35:37 Victor Mote wrote: Keiron Liddle wrote: If I understand it correctly we could have: - multiple output targets for one rendering run - targets with the same font metrics can layout to a common area tree - targets with similar or substitute metrics could force

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cvs commit: xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps AWTStarter.java CommandLineOptions.java CommandLineStarter.java Driver.java ErrorHandler.java FOInputHandler.java FOPException.java Fop.java InputHandler.java LayoutHandler.java

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Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: It must be a cultural thing. The dictionary definition you gave should tell the story well enough -- see the example felt contempt for the mincing The word is a pejorative, but perhaps more so in my part of the world, where calling someone a fop or a dandy might be

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Re: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Bernd Brandstetter wrote: On Monday 13 January 2003 11:01, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Bernd Brandstetter wrote: feeling inspired by your's and Oleg's suggestions and also a little bit bored this Sunday afternoon, I thought I'll take the chance and improve my Gimping skills. Here's the result :-)

Re: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Ralph LaChance
At 04:34 PM 1/13/03, you wrote: Maybe. But IMHO the letters FOP should be easily readable and the whole logo shouldn't be too overloaded with additional stuff. Yes, but that still leaves quite a bit of room for font experimentation. I cannot resist - How many programmers does it take to

Rotating Text Elements

2003-01-13 Thread Angus Stewart
Hello all, I have looked over the list and have found references to the fact that the reference-orientation element is not currently implemented, and the suggestion that rotating text can be accomplished by embedding svg. However, a cursory examination of svg seems to indicate that there is no

Re: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Ralph LaChance wrote: At 04:34 PM 1/13/03, you wrote: Maybe. But IMHO the letters FOP should be easily readable and the whole logo shouldn't be too overloaded with additional stuff. Yes, but that still leaves quite a bit of room for font experimentation. I cannot resist - How many

Re: Rotating Text Elements

2003-01-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Angus Stewart wrote: 1.To the best of your knowledge (as I know this is not the SVG list) - Does SVG support external fonts? You'll have to install your font with the AWT. I have no idea how easy or complicated this is. If you are running Unix+X it is probably enough to register the font

RE: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Peter B. West wrote: Re my comment on this, I thought I should warn you that I am addicted to ironical jokes, which can be a dangerous habit with email. I dislike emoticons, probably because I am more of a snob than I like to admit, but also because they seem to me to discourage any attempt

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: We're OK. I caught your irony. My response was really entirely to Oleg's question. However, I really was concerned about offending someone -- things like names and logos carry a certain emotional weight. In other words, I might worry about offending some on this list, but it

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Re: Rotating Text Elements

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 13.01.2003 23:24:49 J.Pietschmann wrote: Angus Stewart wrote: 1.To the best of your knowledge (as I know this is not the SVG list) - Does SVG support external fonts? You'll have to install your font with the AWT. I have no idea how easy or complicated this is. If you are running

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Re: thoughts on fonts (was: text-decoration)

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: It is very possible that I am missing something, but our memory-lean event-based model would seem to dictate either 1) parsing the document twice, or 2) not allowing multiple output formats in the same document. I think my approach could work in this