Seen from multi-language publishing point of view the recent update
FM 7.2p158 is the most important one for the last years
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3332
If a company wants to stick to FrameMaker for the next years and produces
documentation for the European
Hi,
If I have a framemaker file with linked eps images and I open the eps images
and resave them in a more recent version that the original eps file (i use
for example illustrator CS to open the file but they can be made in a
previous version of illustrator) then some images just dissappear in
Given Adobe's historical 18-month release cycle, I would be surprised to
see a new FrameMaker release within a couple of months. (I believe
FrameMaker 7.2 shipped in September 2005). Pleasantly surprised, of course.
The Creative Suite is somewhat closer to the end of an 18 month cycle
Hi,
This is an issue I have ocassionaly seen with FrameMaker over the years:
sometimes the Top and Left offsets of an image will change when the image is
refiltered. I have never been able to reproduce it on purpose and haven't
seen it in Adobe's knowledge base. But I have seen it myself and
All,
Is there a way to automate putting an outline on a graphic object.
(Other than using FrameScript which I don't have.)
I can do this manually by selecting the object then the Tools Palette
but I've got about 1200 graphic objects to modify.
If not, I'll look at modifying the actual
Hi Don,
FrameScript would certainly pay for itself with this job alone. If you
decide to try it, here is the code to add a 1 point border to all of the
imported graphics on body pages in the document.
If ActiveDoc = 0
MsgBox 'There is no active document.';
LeaveSub;
Else
Run ProcessDoc
I will reply on behalf of Adobe.
(1) Diane Gaskill has no reliable source in Adobe that
provided any release information.
(2) Adobe has not and has no plans to move FrameMaker
development back from India where in fact it is under
active development.
- Dov
-Original Message-
According to the developer who gave me the info, this is not a rumor. Hmmm.
It sounds like there are some communications problems within Adobe. At this
point, I don't know who really knows what and I'm inclined not to believe
anything on this topic until I see the app on the screen.
'Nuff said.
Don't expect Adobe to bring back any jobs. Once the outsourcing bug hits, those
jobs are lost forever. On one hand, I understand Adobe's reasoning -- the cost
of a worker in the U.S or Canada is much higher than a worker elsewhere. On the
other hand, that's one more job that's gone overseas,
According to the developer who gave me the info, this
is not a rumor. Hmmm. It sounds like there are some
communications problems within Adobe.
The communication problem is not within Adobe...the problems is
between the two of you and your contacts, none of which speak for
Adobe. Adobe has
Don't expect Adobe to bring back any jobs. Once the outsourcing bug
hits, those jobs are lost forever. On one hand, I understand
I know of multiple specific instances of where outsourced projects
were brought back and domestic developers were added back.
John Posada
Senior Technical Writer
So
Sounds like the communication problem is that insiders are leaking you
unofficial information... Yikes!!!
On 5/16/06, Diane Gaskill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to the developer who gave me the info, this is not a rumor. Hmmm.
It sounds like there are some communications problems within
Not entirely correct re: outsourcing.
There are many examples of companies cancelling their outsourced labor
and bringing the work back into their home offices (I haven't the time
or desire to cite, but there have been several articles in trade
magazines over the past few months that attest to
Outsourcing is not an evil. It's evolution, and was bound to happen as
other countries break into the tech sphere. Balance will eventually be
met, as with anything. The trick is not how to keep jobs in higher-pay
regions, but how to deliver greater value.
From a business standpoint, sure, it's
Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps,
I don't think the companies that are saving money by outsourcing are
necessarily passing on the savings to the consumer. I'd have to see some
pretty firm research on that before I'd believe it.
Anne
I have set up a whole-new black called New black, using 100 percent black
only. Works great for us and our printers.
--
Scott White
Media Production Manager
AlaMark Technologies
210-704-8239
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Daniel Osborn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 19:57:59 +0200
To:
Yes but the companies are not strictly accountable to the consumer, but
rather to the shareholders. And shareholders rarely complain about
greater profits.
ljk
___
Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
Guys,
When you write a Technical Manual do you number heads and sections with
1.1, 1.2, 1.2.1 etc. I have a manual which is essentially an API and
it's numbered that way. It looks very cluttered to me. By taking that
out and using conventional styles, it has an easier UI to me.
What's the
I think it's still mostly used in environments where the manuals are
written to a standard
that requires it: MilSpec, BellCore, whatever
In civilian docs, I think it's largely faded away.
Art
On 5/16/06, Gillian Flato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guys,
snip
What's the general consensus on
--- Anne Robotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps,
I don't think the companies that are saving money by
outsourcing are
necessarily passing on the savings to the consumer.
I'd have to see some
pretty firm research on that before I'd believe it.
Bureeda opines: And I agree that I don't see a lot of profits passed on to
consumers (refer to your local gas pump for more info).
To me this gets us back to the original proposition, that the loss of jobs
can be compensated by an increase in value. Not always of course, as one or
more others
Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps, sure, but what about
us writers? We won't be very appreciative of the trick if we're
reduced to slinging hash at McDonalds. And if it reduces us to fry
cooks, you'd be hard pressed to convince us it *isn't* an evil.
I argue that if you are
Well, since I brought it up, I'll start...
I stay on top of technology and trends and apply what makes sense in
my daily work. What I can't apply at work, I keep on top of at home. I
started out a technophobe in college, and now I've got my hands inside
a .NET SDK and am fixing nightly build
I think you are right Art.
The basic reason for this structure was to enable easy
reference/navigation to specific entries.
As we move further away from dead tree versions, the need for this
kind of user-observable structuring is fading. OTOH, I think one could
argue that the rise of XML and
I do number, but never below a fourth level (1.2.3.4). I am not required
to do so by spec or policy. I personally find when I read long manuals
(e.g. a camcorder, digital camera, etc.) that when it is not numbered, I
do not assimilate data as well because I lose the hierarchy of
information. I
I've got some text that I need to cross-reference in a TOC, but I don't want
it to print in the document where it resides. I've been hiding it in the
margin, with font color white. Of course, there I times that I do want to
view the text for editing, and I have to change the color of the text
On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:34:04 -0700, FIONA HANINGTON
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the reference page, we can have the list items
include page numbers by including $pagenum. Is
there a similar trick to include the paragraph type too?
Yes, that building block is $paratag.
HTH!
-- Jeremy H.
Mike,
You wrote:
I've got some text that I need to cross-reference in a TOC, but I don't want
it to print in the document where it resides. I've been hiding it in the
margin, with font color white. Of course, there I times that I do want to
view the text for editing, and I have to change the
Seen from multi-language publishing point of view the recent update
FM 7.2p158 is the most important one for the last years
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3332
If a company wants to stick to FrameMaker for the next years and produces
documentation for the European
Hi,
If I have a framemaker file with linked eps images and I open the eps images
and resave them in a more recent version that the original eps file (i use
for example illustrator CS to open the file but they can be made in a
previous version of illustrator) then some images just dissappear in
Hi,
I guess the graphics files are not gone. They are
still there but changed their position in your
anchored frame.
The reason is probably that the dimensions of your
EPS graphics or the bounding box dimensions changed.
Just select the anchored frame, press CTRL+a to select
everything in the
> Given Adobe's historical 18-month release cycle, I would be surprised to
> see a new FrameMaker release within a couple of months. (I believe
> FrameMaker 7.2 shipped in September 2005). Pleasantly surprised, of course.
>
> The Creative Suite is somewhat closer to the end of an 18 month cycle
>
All,
Is there a way to automate putting an outline on a graphic object.
(Other than using FrameScript which I don't have.)
I can do this manually by selecting the object then the Tools Palette
but I've got about 1200 graphic objects to modify.
If not, I'll look at modifying the actual graphic
Hi Don,
FrameScript would certainly pay for itself with this job alone. If you
decide to try it, here is the code to add a 1 point border to all of the
imported graphics on body pages in the document.
If ActiveDoc = 0
MsgBox 'There is no active document.';
LeaveSub;
Else
Run ProcessDoc
Alan,
I agree with you, but the person is in the Adobe dev dept. and I'd expect
that they would have a pretty good idea about rel dates. But as you say,
who knows? We'll just have to wait and see.
Either way, what I have now does the job I need to do. Well, almost. I'd
definitely like to see
I thought I read sometime ago within the list, that Adobe had a 'Wish
List' somewhere to post requests? Is there really such a site? I would
love to suggest ideas to incorporate Flash with
FrameMaker.(ie,FlashPaper retaining Frame hyperlinks like it does for
Microsoft doc files)
Diana Stock
That would be the FrameMaker User's Forum on the Adobe site...
7.x/8.x Feature requests...
On 5/16/06, Diana Stock wrote:
> I thought I read sometime ago within the list, that Adobe had a 'Wish
> List' somewhere to post requests? Is there really such a site? I would
> love to suggest ideas to
Diane,
Unless they moved it partially or entirely back to California, very
quietly, the FM development "department" is still (in exile?) in
India.
Did your source say anything about the engineering effort coming back
to Adobe HQ?
Art
On 5/16/06, Diane Gaskill wrote:
> Alan,
>
> I agree with
adobeforums.com has a list.
On 5/16/06, Diana Stock wrote:
> I thought I read sometime ago within the list, that Adobe had a 'Wish
> List' somewhere to post requests? Is there really such a site? I would
> love to suggest ideas to incorporate Flash with
> FrameMaker.(ie,FlashPaper retaining
I will reply on behalf of Adobe.
(1) Diane Gaskill has no reliable source in Adobe that
provided any release information.
(2) Adobe has not and has no plans to move FrameMaker
development "back" from India where in fact it is under
active development.
- Dov
> -Original
According to the developer who gave me the info, this is not a rumor. Hmmm.
It sounds like there are some communications problems within Adobe. At this
point, I don't know who really knows what and I'm inclined not to believe
anything on this topic until I see the app on the screen.
'Nuff said.
Don't expect Adobe to bring back any jobs. Once the outsourcing bug hits, those
jobs are lost forever. On one hand, I understand Adobe's reasoning -- the cost
of a worker in the U.S or Canada is much higher than a worker elsewhere. On the
other hand, that's one more job that's gone overseas,
> According to the developer who gave me the info, this
> is not a rumor. Hmmm. It sounds like there are some
> communications problems within Adobe.
The communication problem is not within Adobe...the problems is
between the two of you and your contacts, none of which speak for
Adobe. Adobe
I need to put some (tinted) call-out text in a sidebar (as opposed to the full
text page span). I'm just checking to be sure that there isn't any more elegant
method than the following (which I don't classify as elegant - although I see
it's the suggested method in the User Guide):
. Insert an
> Don't expect Adobe to bring back any jobs. Once the outsourcing bug
> hits, those jobs are lost forever. On one hand, I understand
I know of multiple specific instances of where outsourced projects
were brought back and domestic developers were added back.
John Posada
Senior Technical Writer
Sounds like the communication problem is that insiders are leaking you
unofficial information... Yikes!!!
On 5/16/06, Diane Gaskill wrote:
> According to the developer who gave me the info, this is not a rumor. Hmmm.
> It sounds like there are some communications problems within Adobe. At this
Not entirely correct re: outsourcing.
There are many examples of companies cancelling their outsourced labor
and bringing the work back into their home offices (I haven't the time
or desire to cite, but there have been several articles in trade
magazines over the past few months that attest to
>>Outsourcing is not an evil. It's evolution, and was bound to happen as
other countries break into the tech sphere. Balance will eventually be
met, as with anything. The trick is not how to keep jobs in higher-pay
regions, but how to deliver greater value.
Hi,
I have some questions about creating pdf files for a printer. To try and
get it right, I'm currently doing the following:
1. Only use cmyk .eps images.
2. Set GetLibraryColorRGBFromCMYK to 'Printing'
3. Save as pdf rather than print to pdf.
4. Convert the resulting pdf to cmyk using
>Outsourcing is not an evil. It's evolution, and was bound to happen as
> other countries break into the tech sphere. Balance will eventually be
> met, as with anything. The trick is not how to keep jobs in higher-pay
> regions, but how to deliver greater value.
Greater value? To whom? The
> I did a contract at a company that had outsourced its
> Tech Writing to India but after seeing how poorly the
> Indians wrote English, they brought TW back to America.
...
>
> So I don't think it is such a great thing.
To come to the conclusion that from hearing about ones that didn't
work,
> Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps,
I don't think the companies that are saving money by outsourcing are
necessarily passing on the savings to the consumer. I'd have to see some
pretty firm research on that before I'd believe it.
Anne
I have set up a whole-new black called New black, using 100 percent black
only. Works great for us and our printers.
--
Scott White
Media Production Manager
AlaMark Technologies
210-704-8239
swhite at alamark.com
> From: Daniel Osborn
> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 19:57:59 +0200
> To:
> Subject:
Yes but the companies are not strictly accountable to "the consumer," but
rather to "the shareholders." And shareholders rarely complain about
greater profits.
ljk
___
Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.
Just a "minor" point of semantics: outsourcing and "offshoring" (outsourcing
to another country) are two very different things.
Anyone who has done consulting work has engaged in supporting their client's
outsourcing effort. The consulting firm where I learned the ropes as a
technical writer was
Guys,
When you write a Technical Manual do you number heads and sections with
1.1, 1.2, 1.2.1 etc. I have a manual which is essentially an API and
it's numbered that way. It looks very cluttered to me. By taking that
out and using conventional styles, it has an easier UI to me.
What's the
I think it's still mostly used in environments where the manuals are
written to a standard
that requires it: MilSpec, BellCore, whatever
In "civilian" docs, I think it's largely faded away.
Art
On 5/16/06, Gillian Flato wrote:
> Guys,
> What's the general consensus on numbering with the
> So, you seem to be saying that it requires no research
> whatsoever to "firmly" conclude that outsourcing does not
> resule in savings to the consumer, but you demand "firm"
> research to prove that it does save the consumer money.
>
> Rubbish.
Let's not take ourselves too seriously.
I'm
Bureeda opines: <>
To me this gets us back to the original proposition, that the loss of jobs
can be compensated by an increase in value. Not always of course, as one or
more others argue, but in a thriving economy (like the one we're now
witnessing in our "off-shoring" society), that's more
> From a business standpoint, sure, it's about value but is there really
> value in outsourcing, or is it just cheaper?
Talent is talent. It all depends on what you need. If you can get what
you need cheaper and without hassle, generally that route wins.
> I did a contract at a company that had
> Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps, sure, but what about
> us writers? We won't be very appreciative of the "trick" if we're
> reduced to slinging hash at McDonalds. And if it reduces us to fry
> cooks, you'd be hard pressed to convince us it *isn't* an evil.
I argue that if you
> It's a big puzzle, and one for which there is no easy solution.
> However, that doesn't mean it's "our" place to sit around and
> mope about it. What is everyone doing to remain marketable in
> this changing economic and commercial landscape?
This, to me, is worth going a little off topic for
Well, since I brought it up, I'll start...
I stay on top of technology and trends and apply what makes sense in
my daily work. What I can't apply at work, I keep on top of at home. I
started out a technophobe in college, and now I've got my hands inside
a .NET SDK and am fixing nightly build
I think you are right Art.
The basic reason for this structure was to enable easy
reference/navigation to specific entries.
As we move further away from "dead tree" versions, the need for this
kind of user-observable structuring is fading. OTOH, I think one could
argue that the rise of XML and
I do number, but never below a fourth level (1.2.3.4). I am not required
to do so by spec or policy. I personally find when I read long manuals
(e.g. a camcorder, digital camera, etc.) that when it is not numbered, I
do not assimilate data as well because I lose the hierarchy of
information. I
>> I thought I read sometime ago within the list, that Adobe had a 'Wish
>> List' somewhere to post requests? Is there really such a site?
http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html
Mike Wickham
> Let's not take ourselves too seriously.
>
> I'm not "demanding" anything, I could actually care less. I was
> just
> following up to John's point that no one benefits from outsourcing
> "except the consumer" to say that I have a hard time believing the
> consumer benefits that much either.
Not
I only use that type of numbering when a client insists on it. Typically,
those clients are engineers with content targeting other engineers.
~~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
Intelligent technical communication since 1993
Technical writing, help development,
FrameMaker and
I've got some text that I need to cross-reference in a TOC, but I don't want
it to print in the document where it resides. I've been hiding it in the
margin, with font color white. Of course, there I times that I do want to
view the text for editing, and I have to change the color of the text
On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:34:04 -0700, FIONA HANINGTON
wrote:
>On the reference page, we can have the list items
>include page numbers by including <$pagenum>. Is
>there a similar trick to include the paragraph type too?
Yes, that "building block" is <$paratag>.
HTH!
-- Jeremy H. Griffith,
Using FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows 2000 on the network drive (F), importing
screenshots saved using SnagIt 8.01. Want avoid gray boxes.
Problems:
1. When I saved screenshots to the F (network drive) drive, some screenshots
saved as 1K files (too small a size compared to others), when tried to open
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