Re: FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Paul Findon
On 7 Nov 2007, at 09:06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation of a free or cheap search tools that does a good job searching FM files? This won't help you because you're running Windows, but EasyFind by Devon Technologies is a great tool for searching the contents FM

FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Does anyone have a recommendation of a free or cheap search tools that does a good job searching FM files? Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Scott Prentice wrote: Hi Jim... A quick test shows me that the name of the referenced inset is visible as plain text within the binary FM file (FM7.2). I

Re: FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Yves Barbion
I use Windows Grep (www.wingrep.com) for this, but I've heard good things about PowerGrep too (www.powergrep.com). Good luck and best regards -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor On Nov 7, 2007 10:06 AM, Shmuel

Re: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Scott Prentice
Yes .. excellent idea. BTW .. if you want an easy way to make an uber book, check out our ComboBook plugin (it's free) .. http://leximation.com/tools/info/combobook.php ...scott Pinkham, Jim wrote: Very cool idea, Carla. Thanks for this! -Original Message- From: Martinek, Carla

Re: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Jim... Many search programs have problems locating text within binary files .. some will just skip binary files entirely, others will just not do a good job at it. I've had good luck with TextPad's Find in Files command. It's very basic but doesn't seem to have problems with file types.

RE: LOM question, kind of

2007-11-07 Thread Combs, Richard
Bill Swallow wrote: Is there a way to create a list of images copied into document? We can create a list of images imported by reference easily enough. Well, the latter consists of the path and name of the referenced files. For embedded images, FM doesn't have that information, so the

RE: FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Charles Beck
You can also use the Copernic Desktop Search tool, which is free. This thing is incredible! I use it all the time for many, many different types of searches, including content in Frame files. You can customize what types of files are indexed/searched, and it is incredibly fast. For most file types

LOM question, kind of

2007-11-07 Thread Bill Swallow
Is there a way to create a list of images copied into document? We can create a list of images imported by reference easily enough. or... Is there an easy way to get a total count of all images in use in a document, where some are imported and some are copied? -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner

RE: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Thanks, Scott -- FrameScript is probably not an option at the moment, but the search info is useful. I'll give this a try and report back a bit later. Jim -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 3:50 PM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc:

RE: Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite.

2007-11-07 Thread richard.melanson
P.S. It's generally not a great idea to cross-post to a bunch of lists as you did, because it means that many people who respond will get annoying junk messages from the lists to which they don't belong. You are correct, in my anger I wanted everyone to know, I will not to do this again, my

OT: Send an email when a script finishes

2007-11-07 Thread Rick Quatro
Hello Framers, I need to send an email after a script finishes. Any ideas on how to do this would be appreciated. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL

RE: Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Combs, Richard
Dan Vint wrote: As these files are saved back to Native (via FrameScript) I'm getting the following error/warning from Frame: SnagIt.jpg This has occurred on 4 different books, not sure if they have been all Frame 6 or not, but this last one is 6. One of the books we couldn't track

Re: trouble adding extra line to master page header

2007-11-07 Thread Stuart Rogers
Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: The trouble with this solution is that you have now removed the line from every other header that has just one line. If you apply the change only to the current instance to avoid that, you have an override, which will disappear if the formats are updated from a

RE: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Hmm, Scott -- Quite possibly I'm missing something. I did a search in both Windows Desktop Search (all files in the folder in question) and Windows Grep 2.3 (all .fm files and then all files *.*). For the inset in question (JunkTrapOps.fm), I found the actual inset file in WDS and drew a total

Re: FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Doug
On 11/7/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation of a free or cheap search tools that does a good job searching FM files? I think Agent Ransack kicks serious bootay... --Doug ___ You are currently subscribed to

RE: FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Pinkham, Jim
I've used Windows Desktop Search daily for about a year. It does a great job of searching numerous file types including .fm and .pdf files. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 3:06 AM To:

Re: OT: Send an email when a script finishes

2007-11-07 Thread Chris Borokowski
Another option is to have it send a web request to a mailscript on the server of your choice. --- Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're running a web server on the same machine, the easiest way would be to use some command line email utility. Do a Google search on command

Re: Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Dan, One thing to consider: it may be better to do your string replacements in FrameMaker without going to MIF and back. Since you are using FrameScript, you may be able to do these replacements in the binary file (depending on what exactly you are doing). Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing

RE: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Very cool idea, Carla. Thanks for this! -Original Message- From: Martinek, Carla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:07 AM To: Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets Jim - You don't need to run the archive

RE: FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Pinkham, Jim
I just downloaded Agent Ransack. Fairly impressive. For the task I'm after (locating the name of a text inset file in Frame binaries), it pulled five of the six known instances -- better than the other two tools I tried at 0 hits and 1 hit -- and it did so quickly. I also liked the fact that it

Re: Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite

2007-11-07 Thread David Creamer
why did they make me spend all my money. Can you explain how they MADE you spend you money again? Full Suite Price: $1599 US Full FrameMaker Price: $899 Suite Upgrade: $999 Call Adobe and talk to a manager to see if you can upgrade from your current Frame 8. (Since the Frame in the

Re: Translation

2007-11-07 Thread Stuart Rogers
Harold Winberg wrote: Hello Framers: Can anyone tell me about translation? I am currently interested in translating technical manuals and parts lists that are in Frame 7.2 from English to Arabic and French. http://lingosystems.com/ has a free Guide to Translation and Localization that you

RE: non-breaking slash - FM sequence?

2007-11-07 Thread Fred Ridder
Kenneth Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) suggested (in part): For Frame 8 (I don't have it yet) you *might* be able to disallow breaks at slashes and then selectively re-allow breaks at slashes by following the slash with a zero width space (U+200B, I don't know how to get one except by copying

Re: non-breaking slash - FM sequence?

2007-11-07 Thread Rick Henkel
Orly Zimmerman wrote: HI All, Does anyone have an idea as to what the FM sequence is for a non-breaking slash - you know, like a non-breaking space is Control-Space and non-breaking hyphen is Esc - h - I couldn't find it in the help - so if the answer is that there is none - how would

RE: Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Fred Ridder
Dan Vint ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) asked: To support OLE reading the graphic back in, do I need to have the original application? This is the primary difference I could think of. Out build machine might not have Office for something from Word for instance, but that would be common on our personal

RE: non-breaking slash - FM sequence?

2007-11-07 Thread Fred Ridder
Orly Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) asked: Does anyone have an idea as to what the FM sequence is for a non-breaking slash - you know, like a non-breaking space is Control-Space and non-breaking hyphen is Esc - h - I couldn't find it in the help - so if the answer is that there is none -

RE: Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Dan Vint
I'm on the build side of the house and its my writers who pick and choose what they use in terms of formats. I have to react and support what they do or provide workarounds. I'm not sure if OLE is 100% of the problem or not, we have only had a few instances of this problem in the thousands of

RE: Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Dan Vint
Thanks I'll give that tool a review. Upon further testing, I'm wondering what the requirements are for supporting OLE embedded graphics. I was able to load and process this file on my local desktop both via the FrameScripts and by hand. But when I took this to my build machine it failed with the

RE: Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Dan Vint
A relative path of ./filename is ok, but a relative path of ../../product/version/filename is not. These are on the same drive. So I guess if I pass some information in about the actual book I might be able to work this out but the two paths are going to be very similar: ./filename will look like

non-breaking slash - FM sequence?

2007-11-07 Thread Orly Zimmerman
HI All, Does anyone have an idea as to what the FM sequence is for a non-breaking slash - you know, like a non-breaking space is Control-Space and non-breaking hyphen is Esc - h - I couldn't find it in the help - so if the answer is that there is none - how would you prevent I/O within a

RE: Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Dan Vint
My first attempt was to try and replace the process that was here under dzBatcher so that is what I have ended up with so far and this issue might be enough to try a different direction. Ultimately I hate these sorts of problems that I can't find an explanation for. Why did dzBatcher work with no

Re: non-breaking slash - FM sequence?

2007-11-07 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Orly Zimmerman wrote: I couldn't find it in the help - so if the answer is that there is none - how would you prevent I/O within a sentence from breaking at the end of a line (assuming you cannot control the page width)? Fred is right; this is usually dealt with by disallowing breaks at

Framers Digest, Vol 25, Issue 4

2007-11-07 Thread Sean Pollock
The most recent versions of Frame/Acrobat supposedly allow you to embed a Flash animation in a PDF, though this might be specific to Adobe's upcoming communications suite. If this is true, you could theoretically create a Flash .swf that calls other .swf files on a server, provided you set

FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Does anyone have a recommendation of a free or cheap search tools that does a good job searching FM files? Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Scott Prentice wrote: > Hi Jim... > > A quick test shows me that the name of the referenced inset is visible > as plain text within the binary FM file (FM7.2). I

FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Paul Findon
On 7 Nov 2007, at 09:06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > Does anyone have a recommendation of a free or cheap search tools > that does a good job searching FM files? This won't help you because you're running Windows, but EasyFind by Devon Technologies is a great tool for searching the contents FM

Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite.

2007-11-07 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Yes, but it comes with the top of the line version of Adobe Acrobat, so that's a consideration. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Kenneth C. Benson wrote: > richard.melanson at us.tel.com wrote: > >> I just got off the phone with Adobe and I don't feel good about the >> answer I received. > > I'm

FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Yves Barbion
I use Windows Grep (www.wingrep.com) for this, but I've heard good things about PowerGrep too (www.powergrep.com). Good luck and best regards -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor On Nov 7, 2007 10:06 AM, Shmuel

Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Dan, One thing to consider: it may be better to do your string replacements in FrameMaker without going to MIF and back. Since you are using FrameScript, you may be able to do these replacements in the binary file (depending on what exactly you are doing). Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing

OT: Send an email when a script finishes

2007-11-07 Thread Rick Quatro
Hello Framers, I need to send an email after a script finishes. Any ideas on how to do this would be appreciated. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com

Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Thanks, Scott -- FrameScript is probably not an option at the moment, but the search info is useful. I'll give this a try and report back a bit later. Jim -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 3:50 PM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc:

Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite.

2007-11-07 Thread richard.melan...@us.tel.com
"P.S. It's generally not a great idea to cross-post to a bunch of lists as you did, because it means that many people who respond will get annoying junk messages from the lists to which they don't belong." You are correct, in my anger I wanted everyone to know, I will not to do this again, my

FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Pinkham, Jim
I've used Windows Desktop Search daily for about a year. It does a great job of searching numerous file types including .fm and .pdf files. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jim.pinkham=voith@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jim.pinkham=voith.com at

Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite

2007-11-07 Thread David Creamer
> why did they make me spend all my money. Can you explain how they MADE you spend you money again? Full Suite Price: $1599 US Full FrameMaker Price: $899 Suite Upgrade: $999 Call Adobe and talk to a manager to see if you can upgrade from your current Frame 8. (Since the Frame in the

FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Doug
On 11/7/07, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > Does anyone have a recommendation of a free or cheap search tools that > does a good job searching FM files? I think Agent Ransack kicks serious bootay... --Doug

LOM question, kind of

2007-11-07 Thread Bill Swallow
Is there a way to create a list of images copied into document? We can create a list of images imported by reference easily enough. or... Is there an easy way to get a total count of all images in use in a document, where some are imported and some are copied? -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner

Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Hmm, Scott -- Quite possibly I'm missing something. I did a search in both Windows Desktop Search (all files in the folder in question) and Windows Grep 2.3 (all .fm files and then all files *.*). For the inset in question (JunkTrapOps.fm), I found the actual inset file in WDS and drew a total

FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Pinkham, Jim
I just downloaded Agent Ransack. Fairly impressive. For the task I'm after (locating the name of a text inset file in Frame binaries), it pulled five of the six known instances -- better than the other two tools I tried at 0 hits and 1 hit -- and it did so quickly. I also liked the fact that it

Translation

2007-11-07 Thread Stuart Rogers
Harold Winberg wrote: > Hello Framers: > > Can anyone tell me about translation? I am currently interested in > translating technical manuals and parts lists that are in Frame 7.2 from > English to Arabic and French. > http://lingosystems.com/ has a free Guide to Translation and Localization

trouble adding extra line to master page header

2007-11-07 Thread Stuart Rogers
Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > The trouble with this solution is that you have now removed the > line from every other header that has just one line. If you apply > the change only to the current instance to avoid that, you have > an override, which will disappear if the formats are updated from

Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Combs, Richard
Dan Vint wrote: > As these files are saved back to Native (via FrameScript) > I'm getting the following error/warning from Frame: > <> > This has occurred on 4 different books, not sure if they have > been all Frame 6 or not, but this last one is 6. One of the > books we couldn't track the

FM Search Tools

2007-11-07 Thread Charles Beck
You can also use the Copernic Desktop Search tool, which is free. This thing is incredible! I use it all the time for many, many different types of searches, including content in Frame files. You can customize what types of files are indexed/searched, and it is incredibly fast. For most file types

LOM question, kind of

2007-11-07 Thread Combs, Richard
Bill Swallow wrote: > Is there a way to create a list of images copied into > document? We can create a list of images imported by > reference easily enough. Well, the latter consists of the path and name of the referenced files. For embedded images, FM doesn't have that information, so the

Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Martinek, Carla
Jim - You don't need to run the archive plug-in on each book. What you can do is generate an LOR (List of References) file. Showing text insets is one of the options you can select when you create that file. You're still going to have to touch multiple files and/or books, no matter what you

Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Very cool idea, Carla. Thanks for this! -Original Message- From: Martinek, Carla [mailto:cmarti...@zebra.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:07 AM To: Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets Jim - You don't need to run the

Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Jim... Many search programs have problems locating text within binary files .. some will just skip binary files entirely, others will just not do a good job at it. I've had good luck with TextPad's "Find in Files" command. It's very basic but doesn't seem to have problems with file types.

OT: Send an email when a script finishes

2007-11-07 Thread Scott Prentice
Hey Rick... Unless you're running a web server on the same machine, the easiest way would be to use some command line email utility. Do a Google search on "command line email" and you'll see lots of options. An open source utility called Blat looks interesting. Cheers, ...scott Scott

Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets

2007-11-07 Thread Scott Prentice
Yes .. excellent idea. BTW .. if you want an easy way to make an uber book, check out our ComboBook plugin (it's free) .. http://leximation.com/tools/info/combobook.php ...scott Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Very cool idea, Carla. Thanks for this! > > -Original Message- > From: Martinek,

Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Dan, FrameScript (and the FDK) always report the absolute paths to imported graphics, text insets, and external cross-references. You have to compare the path of the current document to that of the imported graphic to determine if it is a relative or absolute path. The rule is fairly

OT: Send an email when a script finishes

2007-11-07 Thread Chris Borokowski
Another option is to have it send a web request to a mailscript on the server of your choice. --- Scott Prentice wrote: > Unless you're running a web server on the same machine, the easiest > way > would be to use some command line email utility. Do a Google search > on > "command line email"

non-breaking slash - FM sequence?

2007-11-07 Thread Orly Zimmerman
HI All, Does anyone have an idea as to what the FM sequence is for a non-breaking slash - you know, like a non-breaking space is "Control-Space" and non-breaking hyphen is "Esc - h" - I couldn't find it in the help - so if the answer is that there is none - how would you prevent "I/O" within

Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Dan Vint
Thanks I'll give that tool a review. Upon further testing, I'm wondering what the requirements are for supporting OLE embedded graphics. I was able to load and process this file on my local desktop both via the FrameScripts and by hand. But when I took this to my build machine it failed with the

Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Dan Vint
I'm on the build side of the house and its my writers who pick and choose what they use in terms of formats. I have to react and support what they do or provide workarounds. I'm not sure if OLE is 100% of the problem or not, we have only had a few instances of this problem in the thousands of

Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Dan Vint
My first attempt was to try and replace the process that was here under dzBatcher so that is what I have ended up with so far and this issue might be enough to try a different direction. Ultimately I hate these sorts of problems that I can't find an explanation for. Why did dzBatcher work with no

Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Dan Vint
A relative path of ./filename is ok, but a relative path of ../../product/version/filename is not. These are on the same drive. So I guess if I pass some information in about the actual book I might be able to work this out but the two paths are going to be very similar: ./filename will look like

non-breaking slash - FM sequence?

2007-11-07 Thread Fred Ridder
Orly Zimmerman (orlyz at marvell.com) asked:> > Does anyone have an idea as to what the FM sequence is for a > non-breaking slash - you know, like a non-breaking space is > "Control-Space" and non-breaking hyphen is "Esc - h" - > > I couldn't find it in the help - so if the answer is that there

Possible Frame6+SGML Issue only MIF to Native and OLE graphics

2007-11-07 Thread Fred Ridder
Dan Vint (dvint at bea.com) asked: > > To support OLE reading the graphic back in, do I need to have the > original application? This is the primary difference I could think of. > Out build machine might not have Office for something from Word for > instance, but that would be common on our

non-breaking slash - FM sequence?

2007-11-07 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Orly Zimmerman wrote: > I couldn't find it in the help - so if the answer is that there is none > - how would you prevent "I/O" within a sentence from breaking at the end > of a line (assuming you cannot control the page width)? Fred is right; this is usually dealt with by disallowing breaks at

non-breaking slash - FM sequence?

2007-11-07 Thread Rick Henkel
Orly Zimmerman wrote: > HI All, > > Does anyone have an idea as to what the FM sequence is for a > non-breaking slash - you know, like a non-breaking space is > "Control-Space" and non-breaking hyphen is "Esc - h" - > > > > I couldn't find it in the help - so if the answer is that there is

non-breaking slash - FM sequence?

2007-11-07 Thread Fred Ridder
Kenneth Benson (kbenson at pegtype.com) suggested (in part): > For Frame 8 (I don't have it yet) you *might* be able to disallow breaks > at slashes and then selectively re-allow breaks at slashes by following > the slash with a zero width space (U+200B, I don't know how to get one > except by