Re: Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-28 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
You can manage that too by setting the size and offset by experimenting with the size and offset percentage in Format Document Text Options dialog box. Try changing the size of Superscript to 70% and the offset to something that will not change the line height. Just remember that this will

Re: Still no Hebrew/Arabic?

2009-01-28 Thread Shlomo Perets
Richard, You wrote: I'm pretty certain FM9 still doesn't support right-to-left languages, but before giving someone a definitive answer, I thought I'd double-check with the list. That's correct -- no news with respect to right-to-left languages in FM9. With all versions of FrameMaker/Windows,

RE: Hypertext Links to Excel Worksheets?

2009-01-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Ted, I don't know if this will help, but the Excel2007 Help provides the following information on linking to a specific sheet within a workbook: Note You may find it more convenient to create an external reference link without opening the workbook on the Web. For each cell in the destination

RE: Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-28 Thread Callie Bertsche
Thank you! Awesome! My document looks so much better between these two solutions. -Original Message- From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [mailto:bod...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:19 AM To: Callie Bertsche Cc: Art Campbell; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re:

wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

2009-01-28 Thread Ben Hechter
Hi, Wondering if folks have thoughts on how adding the date to a document directory name each time a draft is archived could impact the pathname of the referenced graphics. Seems like I've had some cases where the referenced graphics pointers get lost because the folder name has changed, and

RE: wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

2009-01-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Ben, If you change the directory name you have changed the relative path to the graphics. The path must stay the same, relative to the source files. One solution would be to store the graphics in the same tree as the source files, i.e., BookFolder --|SourceFiles --|Graphics Then when the

Re: wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

2009-01-28 Thread Art Campbell
If you make an entire copy of the project at the same directory level, you should be OK because that doesn't change the relative paths. Base Directory Dec.Jan. Feb. So making a March copy at this level would work, because you're rolling the directory

FM 9.0 Download Problem

2009-01-28 Thread Owen, Clint
After much frustration and non-helpful help on Adobe's website I was finally able to download the FM 9.0 trial last night. The key turned out to be turning off the pop-up blocker in IE, which then allowed the Akami Download Manager to be installed as an Active-X control. The download help page

RE: Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-28 Thread Dosick, Daniel (GE EntSol, Security)
Callie-- Go to Format Document Text Options. There, you can adjust superscript (as well as subscript) height and size. --Dan -- Message: 22 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:53:49 -0800 From: Callie Bertsche c.berts...@tecplot.com Subject: RE: Footnotes and paragraph

Re: Ctrl-Alt-u shortcut bug

2009-01-28 Thread Klaus Daube
On 22 Jan 2009 at 11:12, Heidi Bailey wrote: Has anyone seen or got a solution to the Ctrl-Alt-u shortcut bug? When I use it, FM places a รบ in front of the word following the selected text. IN FM8.0 p277 it's all OK, the shortcut sets the selection to UPPR CASE. - do you have another

RE: Extra space after text insets

2009-01-28 Thread Shrobona Choudhuri
Hi Stuart, Thanks for your response! -Shrobona -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:28 AM To: Shrobona Choudhuri Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Extra space after text insets Shrobona Choudhuri

Re: FM9 show stoppers - some problems solved!

2009-01-28 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all - especially Adobe At first I must apologise for my harsh reaction on this issue. I seem to have a really crazy installion: While this was a real pain in the back when I was testing on friday (2009-01-23) and again on saturday on my laptop, the problem seems to have gone! Now

Looking for software to convert Framemaker 7 sources to clean HTML (for HTML Help) supporting multiple languages

2009-01-28 Thread Celine Deguire
Hello Framers I am looking for a software to convert Framemaker 7.2 documentation sources to clean HTML (for HTML Help). I have been reviewing Mif2Go and was convinced it was the good option until I just read in the product documentation Mif2Go does not currently support Japanese. I need this

RE: Outline

2009-01-28 Thread VLM TechSubs
Hi Terry, Two questions about Enhance, since you have experience with it: 1. Can one assign any paratags to any outline level? (Not bound to Heading1, etc.) 2. Can one assign more than one paratag to a given outline level? For example, can one assign H3 and H3 Close to the same outline level?

RE: FM 9.0 Download Problem

2009-01-28 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Second that! I had a similar experience yesterday. Although I saw the light fairly quickly, it was more luck than intent. This aspect of the FM 9 download was not particularly obvious or intuitive. Nor was the fact that TCS 2 apparently really can't be downloaded en toto, but only ordered on DVD.

RE: Still no Hebrew/Arabic?

2009-01-28 Thread Dov Isaacs
FWIW, FrameMaker's code base was not rewritten but rather, modified to support Unicode. Unicode support does not necessarily include support for input methods for all writing systems. FrameMaker doesn't have input methods for either Hebrew or Arabic, which by the way although both are

Re: VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Art Campbell
In Visio 2007, you get a dialog box when you SaveAs PNG. I set the resolution to 240 or so -- the pixilation is likely to show up if you accept the default setting of Screen. In any case, try boosting the resolution. AND... does anything else look poor in the PDF? If so, you may want to look at

RE: VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Dov Isaacs
WMF is a vector format based on Windows GDI. That's why it looks smooth and is certainly preferable to PNG which is raster and for print purposes, unless you go to 600dpi or more for Visio vector style drawing, PNG will look cruddy! Be careful with WMF, though! Sometimes text doesn't make it

non-Adobe *.pdf

2009-01-28 Thread Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC
Hello FrameManiacs, Would anyone who is generating *.pdf files outside of the Adobe Acrobat world please share what application you use and and pros-n-cons ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages

Re: VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Alan Litchfield
Joseph, Hi, seems Visio graphics are the flavour of the month :) Just to summarise what has been said on the list over the last couple of weeks. 1. Visio uses an internal file format and is not a graphics format, as such 2. Visio native files are best not used in FM 3. The Visio files then need

Re: non-Adobe *.pdf

2009-01-28 Thread Alan Litchfield
You mean in general or from Frame? What specifically do you want to know? I use pdfLaTeX pretty much daily, from time to time ps2pdf. No issues in using them. pdfLaTeX is run from a text editor and ps2pdf is normally run from a command line. I use them with files generated from metafont, LaTeX,

Re: Looking for software to convert Framemaker 7 sources to clean HTML (for HTML Help) supporting multiple languages

2009-01-28 Thread Art Campbell
You may want to double-check this with Jeremy at omsys. (supp...@omsys.com) Did it blow up when you tested it with Japanese characters? Omsys makes a point on their site of saying that they fully support FM... which to me would mean supporting any languages that FM supports too. It's possible

Re: Outline

2009-01-28 Thread quills
I would categorize this a perceived gains, capabilities, and costs. One very big gain and capability that structured documents give you is the ability to require only certain structures to fit after other structures. I can't comment on the capability of Enhance to require a specific

Re: Frame 9: improved CMYK

2009-01-28 Thread Art Campbell
To put this on context... In 9, using SaveAs to create a PDF with CMYK works, EXCEPT when the FM file contains embedded PDFs -- in effect, nesting the PDFs. So it's partially whacked, but if you don't nest PDFs as imported graphics in FM, it works. Art Art Campbell

Re: Outline

2009-01-28 Thread Peter Gold
Here's a method that nobody's mentioned yet. It's not complete or perfect, but it may be useful: * Create a TOC that extracts all the heading paragraph formats that you want in an outline. Be sure to check Make Hypertext Links. The TOC can be for a single document or a book. * Modify the *TOC

Re: Still no Hebrew/Arabic?

2009-01-28 Thread tom . kohn
Hello Richard and List- Entering text in a right-to-left language is not a function of FrameMaker, but of Windows. Most settings for the language are made in Start Control Panel Regional and Language Options 1. Set all numeric, date, time, and language settings for the region (note almost

RE: VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Alan Litchfield wrote: Just to summarise what has been said on the list over the last couple of weeks. 1. Visio uses an internal file format and is not a graphics format, as such 2. Visio native files are best not used in FM 3. The Visio files then need to be exported in some suitable

RE: VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Lea Rush
Please see below: -Original Message- Alan Litchfield wrote: snip 5. So, what has been suggested on this list, and is an approach I use, is to print your Visio file to PDF and import that into FM. Therefore, I would say not to use PNG. Instead use PDF. What he said!

RE: VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Alan Litchfield
Yeah. I took a double take on what Art said too. So does that mean that Adobe have buggered up the pdf output engine? Or is it that the nested pdfs already contain RGB colour definitions and those are carried through to the final output, in the same way that eps acts as a wrapper for the

RE: Outline

2009-01-28 Thread Combs, Richard
VLM TechSubs wrote: Hi Terry, Two questions about Enhance, since you have experience with it: 1. Can one assign any paratags to any outline level? (Not bound to Heading1, etc.) 2. Can one assign more than one paratag to a given outline level? For example, can one assign H3 and H3

Re: Looking for software to convert Framemaker 7 sources to clean HTML (for HTML Help) supporting multiple languages

2009-01-28 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:34:07 -0500, Celine Deguire celdegu...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a software to convert Framemaker 7.2 documentation sources to clean HTML (for HTML Help). I have been reviewing Mif2Go and was convinced it was the good option until I just read in the product

RE: VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Alan Litchfield wrote: Yeah. I took a double take on what Art said too. So does that mean that Adobe have buggered up the pdf output engine? Or is it that the nested pdfs already contain RGB colour definitions and those are carried through to the final output, in the same way that eps

RE: Still no Hebrew/Arabic?

2009-01-28 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
This is not truly correct. I have been working in languages for over 15 years. I have been doing laying out Arabic and Hebrew for at least 5 now. I never change the language settings to work in any language. The software, such as InDesign ME (Middle Eastern Version) is made to work without having

hypertext marker location in generated index

2009-01-28 Thread Suzanne Bolduc
hi! I'm editing a manual in unstructured FM 7.2 and until recently I was under the impression that someone forgot to set up the index to make its entries clickable. however I came to realize that, in the generated TOC, the hypertext markers are located at the start of each line, and you can

Re: hypertext marker location in generated index

2009-01-28 Thread Shlomo Perets
Suzanne, You wrote: I'm editing a manual in unstructured FM 7.2 and until recently I was under the impression that someone forgot to set up the index to make its entries clickable. however I came to realize that, in the generated TOC, the hypertext markers are located at the start of each line,

Changing indentation of a graphic within an anchored frame

2009-01-28 Thread Berman, Marta
Is there a shortcut for changing the indentation of a graphic within an anchored frame? Our FM template is being modified to change the indentation of lots of paragraph tags, and we will all have to manually modify the indentation of almost all of our graphics - unless you happen to know of a

FW: Changing indentation of a graphic within an anchored frame

2009-01-28 Thread Berman, Marta
Just to clarify, we like our graphics aligned with the text in the paragraph above (not centered on the page). Is there a shortcut for changing the indentation of a graphic within an anchored frame? Our FM template is being modified to change the indentation of lots of paragraph tags, and

Re: Changing indentation of a graphic within an anchored frame

2009-01-28 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Marta I guess the anchoring position of these anchored frames is Below Current Line? In that case, I think the only option you have is a Framescript which changes the width of the frame and the offset from left setting of the graphic within the frame. An other (and better) option is to put

FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-28 Thread Alan Litchfield
Howard, Let's just say first that there is a lot of confusion about how to deal with RGB channels in "print ready" pdfs. But you say you are able to output separations (two plates, I take it from your description - one spot and one black) so the plate makers should be able to convert any RGB to

Outline

2009-01-28 Thread Hedley Finger
Scott, Gary: > What you are referring to > doing, Hedley, is operating in a structured environment. You have misrepresented what I actually said. I have used the DITA XML schema and the DITA-FMx plug-in for FrameMaker to develop structured documentation. But it is certainly a far from

Frame 9: improved CMYK

2009-01-28 Thread Reng, Winfried
Hi, Here is another post from Arnis Gubins from the Adobe FrameMaker forum: ... After extensive testing with his files and others, using imported PDFs with the new CMYK SaveAsPDF is broken from the get go. When using imported PDFs in FM, the CMYK SaveAsPDF option renders these imported PDFs as

Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-28 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
You can manage that too by setting the size and offset by experimenting with the size and offset percentage in Format > Document > Text Options dialog box. Try changing the size of Superscript to 70% and the offset to something that will not change the line height. Just remember that this will

Still no Hebrew/Arabic?

2009-01-28 Thread Shlomo Perets
Richard, You wrote: >I'm pretty certain FM9 still doesn't support right-to-left languages, >but before giving someone a definitive answer, I thought I'd >double-check with the list. That's correct -- no news with respect to right-to-left languages in FM9. With all versions of

Hypertext Links to Excel Worksheets?

2009-01-28 Thread Ted Poulos
Does anyone know if it is possible, and, if so, the correct syntax for a hypertext link from a FrameMaker doc to an Excel worksheet? Message openfile successfully opens the Excel workbook, but I want to designate a specific tab (worksheet) in the workbook as my destination. Thanks, Ted Poulos

Hypertext Links to Excel Worksheets?

2009-01-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Ted, I don't know if this will help, but the Excel2007 Help provides the following information on linking to a specific sheet within a workbook: Note You may find it more convenient to create an external reference link without opening the workbook on the Web. For each cell in the destination

Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-28 Thread Callie Bertsche
Thank you! Awesome! My document looks so much better between these two solutions. > -Original Message- > From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [mailto:bodvar at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:19 AM > To: Callie Bertsche > Cc: Art Campbell; framers at lists.frameusers.com >

wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

2009-01-28 Thread Ben Hechter
Hi, Wondering if folks have thoughts on how adding the date to a document directory name each time a draft is archived could impact the pathname of the referenced graphics. Seems like I've had some cases where the referenced graphics pointers get lost because the folder name has changed, and

wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

2009-01-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Ben, If you change the directory name you have changed the relative path to the graphics. The path must stay the same, relative to the source files. One solution would be to store the graphics in the same tree as the source files, i.e., BookFolder --|SourceFiles --|Graphics Then when the

wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

2009-01-28 Thread Art Campbell
If you make an entire copy of the project at the same directory level, you should be OK because that doesn't change the relative paths. Base Directory Dec.Jan. Feb. So making a March copy at this level would work, because you're rolling the directory

FM 9.0 Download Problem

2009-01-28 Thread Owen, Clint
After much frustration and non-helpful help on Adobe's website I was finally able to download the FM 9.0 trial last night. The key turned out to be turning off the pop-up blocker in IE, which then allowed the Akami Download Manager to be installed as an Active-X control. The download help page

Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-28 Thread Dosick, Daniel (GE EntSol, Security)
Callie-- Go to Format > Document > Text Options. There, you can adjust superscript (as well as subscript) height and size. --Dan -- Message: 22 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:53:49 -0800 From: "Callie Bertsche" Subject: RE: Footnotes and

Extra space after text insets

2009-01-28 Thread Shrobona Choudhuri
Hi Stuart, Thanks for your response! -Shrobona -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:28 AM To: Shrobona Choudhuri Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Extra space after text insets Shrobona

FM9 show stoppers - some problems solved!

2009-01-28 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all - especially Adobe At first I must apologise for my harsh reaction on this issue. I seem to have a really crazy installion: While this was a real pain in the back when I was testing on friday (2009-01-23) and again on saturday on my laptop, the problem seems to have gone! Now

Looking for software to convert Framemaker 7 sources to clean HTML (for HTML Help) supporting multiple languages

2009-01-28 Thread Celine Deguire
Hello Framers I am looking for a software to convert Framemaker 7.2 documentation sources to clean HTML (for HTML Help). I have been reviewing Mif2Go and was convinced it was the good option until I just read in the product documentation "Mif2Go does not currently support Japanese". I need this

VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Joseph
Several of the documents I work on use Visio drawings. I save the Visio drawings as PNGs and then import the PNGs into FrameMaker. When I print the frame book as a PDF, the PNG looks horribly pixellated. On the other hand, when I save the Visio drawing as a WMF and use that WMF in FrameMaker,

Outline

2009-01-28 Thread VLM TechSubs
Hi Terry, Two questions about Enhance, since you have experience with it: 1. Can one assign any paratags to any outline level? (Not bound to Heading1, etc.) 2. Can one assign more than one paratag to a given outline level? For example, can one assign H3 and H3 Close to the same outline level?

FM 9.0 Download Problem

2009-01-28 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Second that! I had a similar experience yesterday. Although I saw the light fairly quickly, it was more luck than intent. This aspect of the FM 9 download was not particularly obvious or intuitive. Nor was the fact that TCS 2 apparently really can't be downloaded en toto, but only ordered on DVD.

Still no Hebrew/Arabic?

2009-01-28 Thread Dov Isaacs
FWIW, FrameMaker's code base was not "rewritten" but rather, modified to support Unicode. Unicode support does not necessarily include support for "input methods" for all writing systems. FrameMaker doesn't have input methods for either Hebrew or Arabic, which by the way although both are

VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Art Campbell
In Visio 2007, you get a dialog box when you SaveAs PNG. I set the resolution to 240 or so -- the pixilation is likely to show up if you accept the default setting of Screen. In any case, try boosting the resolution. AND... does anything else look poor in the PDF? If so, you may want to look at

VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Dov Isaacs
WMF is a vector format based on Windows GDI. That's why it looks smooth and is certainly preferable to PNG which is raster and for print purposes, unless you go to 600dpi or more for Visio vector style drawing, PNG will look cruddy! Be careful with WMF, though! Sometimes text doesn't make it

non-Adobe *.pdf

2009-01-28 Thread Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC
Hello FrameManiacs, Would anyone who is generating *.pdf files outside of the Adobe Acrobat world please share what application you use and and pros-n-cons

Looking for software to convert Framemaker 7 sources to clean HTML (for HTML Help) supporting multiple languages

2009-01-28 Thread Art Campbell
You may want to double-check this with Jeremy at omsys. (support at omsys.com) Did it blow up when you tested it with Japanese characters? Omsys makes a point on their site of saying that they "fully support" FM... which to me would mean supporting any languages that FM supports too. It's

Outline

2009-01-28 Thread qui...@airmail.net
I would categorize this a perceived gains, capabilities, and costs. One very big gain and capability that structured documents give you is the ability to require only certain structures to fit after other structures. I can't comment on the capability of Enhance to require a specific

Frame 9: improved CMYK

2009-01-28 Thread Art Campbell
To put this on context... In 9, using SaveAs to create a PDF with CMYK works, EXCEPT when the FM file contains embedded PDFs -- in effect, nesting the PDFs. So it's partially whacked, but if you don't nest PDFs as imported graphics in FM, it works. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at

Outline

2009-01-28 Thread Peter Gold
Here's a method that nobody's mentioned yet. It's not complete or perfect, but it may be useful: * Create a TOC that extracts all the heading paragraph formats that you want in an outline. Be sure to check Make Hypertext Links. The TOC can be for a single document or a book. * Modify the *TOC

Still no Hebrew/Arabic?

2009-01-28 Thread tom.k...@kodak.com
Hello Richard and List- Entering text in a right-to-left language is not a function of FrameMaker, but of Windows. Most settings for the language are made in Start > Control Panel > Regional and Language Options 1. Set all numeric, date, time, and language settings for the region (note almost

VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Alan Litchfield wrote: > Just to summarise what has been said on the list over the last couple of > weeks. > > 1. Visio uses an internal file format and is not a graphics format, as such > 2. Visio native files are best not used in FM > 3. The Visio files then need to be exported in some

VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Lea Rush
Please see below: > -Original Message- > > Alan Litchfield wrote: > > > 5. So, what has been suggested on this list, and is an approach I use, is > > to print your Visio file to PDF and import that into FM. > > > > Therefore, I would say not to use PNG. Instead use PDF. > > What he

Outline

2009-01-28 Thread Combs, Richard
VLM TechSubs wrote: > Hi Terry, > > Two questions about Enhance, since you have experience with it: > > 1. Can one assign any paratags to any outline level? (Not bound to > Heading1, > etc.) > > 2. Can one assign more than one paratag to a given outline level? For > example, can one assign H3

Looking for software to convert Framemaker 7 sources to clean HTML (for HTML Help) supporting multiple languages

2009-01-28 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:34:07 -0500, Celine Deguire wrote: >I am looking for a software to convert Framemaker 7.2 documentation sources >to clean HTML (for HTML Help). I have been reviewing Mif2Go and was >convinced it was the good option until I just read in the product >documentation "Mif2Go

VISIO, WMF, and PNG

2009-01-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Alan Litchfield wrote: > Yeah. I took a double take on what Art said too. > > So does that mean that Adobe have buggered up the pdf output engine? Or is > it > that the nested pdfs already contain RGB colour definitions and those are > carried through to the final output, in the same way that

Still no Hebrew/Arabic?

2009-01-28 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
This is not truly correct. I have been working in languages for over 15 years. I have been doing laying out Arabic and Hebrew for at least 5 now. I never change the language settings to work in any language. The software, such as InDesign ME (Middle Eastern Version) is made to work without having

hypertext marker location in generated index

2009-01-28 Thread Suzanne Bolduc
hi! I'm editing a manual in unstructured FM 7.2 and until recently I was under the impression that someone forgot to set up the index to make its entries clickable. however I came to realize that, in the generated TOC, the hypertext markers are located at the start of each line, and you can