I had this problem with 7.0 once, but I was trying to set the
properties from within the component file.
Check the settings for the file in the book file. The book file
overrides the settings in the component file and changes its settings.
And, IIRC, the book file wants all its components to have
Hello,
well, we've almost finished our migration software-wise, now we need
to convert several hundreds documents to the new version.
instead of opening each and every file manually, being told that it's
a version 5 document, and agreeing to have it updated by clicking the
OK button in the dialog
I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of heading in my chapter
ToC, e.g. toc12 is <$chapnum>..
I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of chapter text heading,
e.g. Head1 is S:Section <$chapnum>. \t
I have added the number manually to each heading in my chapter T
> I *wonder*, though, if this isn't really an artifact of generated files.
> I update the pagination which fixes the problem, but then I regenerate,
> which creates a new, "broken" file. I wonder if FM is simply not smart
> enough to generate an extra page when it regenerates the list of tables.
>
Hi, Jakob:
Yes, you can automate this process. Search Google for "DoBatch," and
"DZBatcher," two free utilities that work on Windows FM, like the
FM-unix utility, fmbatch.
At 12:14 PM +0100 1/25/06, Jakob Fix wrote:
>
>So, to restate my question, is there a "silent option" to open files
>create
First, check the internal pagination setting of the generated file and
make sure it's set to double-sided, not single sided.
Then check the pagination settings of the files that come before and
after it in the book; ideally they should all be set the same and at
the book level.
Also,
Art
On 1/2
On TOC reference page of the Table of Contents document, you can add the
<$paranum> or <$paranumonly> building blocks to the xxxTOC paragraphs
(e.g., Head1TOC) to extract the number of the specific item.
For example, you might have the Head1TOC paragraph as: <$paranum>\
<$paratext>\T<$pagenum>
(w
In the reference page of the TOC find the code that looks like this:
<$paratext> <$pagenum>
Then add this to it:
<$paranum>
or
<$paranumonly>
where you feel it would do the most good :)
Likely you'll end up with this:
<$paranum> <$paratext> <$pagenum>
or
<$paranumonly> <$paratext> <$pagen
Did anyone else get this Framemaker Spam? Did he harvest the names from
this FrameUsers list?
Original Message
Subject:FrameMaker
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:49:58 +0530
From: Aggarwal, Dhiraj
To: XXX
Hi,
I apologize for intruding into your busy schedule. P
Hi John,
Hopefully the bulk of people respond directly to you and maybe you can let Lisa
(and the list?) know the results... Just to avoid a flood of email as I'm sure
that you're not the only one.
I did get that same email so let's hope that we can track it. In their defense,
the content is p
Last fall, yes.
And thank you, gmail, for effective filtering.
Art
On 1/25/06, John Huntington wrote:
> Did anyone else get this Framemaker Spam? Did he harvest the names from
> this FrameUsers list?
>
> Original Message
> Subject:FrameMaker
> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006
Bernard Aschwanden wrote:
> Hi John, Hopefully the bulk of people respond directly to you and maybe you
> can let Lisa (and the list?) know the results... Just to avoid a flood of
> email as I'm sure that you're not the only one.
Yep, I've already gotten about 10 messages and it's about 50/50.
At 10:08 am -0500 25/1/06, Bernard Aschwanden wrote:
>In a total and self promting way, consider getting Advanced FrameMaker (I have
>copies of the book) as there is a stellar, well thought out, well written,
>feature rich, intelligently designed (ha-ha) chapter just on generated files.
>Oh ya,
Joe Malin wrote:
> I'm trying to update a book with several files in it. One
> file has only one page in it. I set the pagination properties
> in Format > Page Layout
> > Pagination to "Make Page Count Even" so it will add an extra blank
> page. But every time I update the book, this file is se
Fred Ridder wrote:
> That's an unrealistic attitude, John.
I think not, I have been on literally 20+ lists since about 1987 and
this is now the THIRD Spam message ever I have gotten from a mailing
list. In each of those other cases, the member was disciplined or
removed. If not, it just spira
Murray Moore wrote:
> I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of
> heading in my chapter ToC, e.g. toc12 is <$chapnum>..
>
> I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of
> chapter text heading, e.g. Head1 is S:Section <$chapnum>. \t
>
> I have added the number manu
At 9:28 am -0700 25/1/06, Combs, Richard wrote:
>If that's really true, you're doing something seriously wrong. The whole
>point of adding an autonumber to a paragraph tag definition is so that
>it will -- you know -- automatically have a number. Are you really
>manually adding numbers? If so, you
Hello,
we have the following problem on a couple of machines, with different documents:
If, on opening a file with missing figures, the user chooses to skip
this (and possibly all other figures), Frame crashes.
Occurs on some machines, not all of them. Frame is +SGML 5.5.6,
Windows is 2000 or X
Also .. FileTools has a "Force Open All Files in Book" command (just
open the book and click the menu item) ..
http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php
This isn't free, but does have a 30-day trial period which should be
sufficient to convert all of your files.
Regards,
Scott Pr
I just got one of these addressed to a long-gone former employee
whose mail is routed to me. This person never posted to this list.
This makes it seem that perhaps the mail is being sent to addressees
culled from multiple sources, such as company directories, Web sites,
vendor listings, and per
Jakob,
You wrote:
>we have the following problem on a couple of machines, with different
>documents:
>
>If, on opening a file with missing figures, the user chooses to skip
>this (and possibly all other figures), Frame crashes.
>
>Occurs on some machines, not all of them. Frame is +SGML 5.5.6,
Hi Jakob,
This is a known bug with Frame 5.5.6 and 6 with Windows XP. There is a patch
for 6 but I don't think there is one for 5.5.6.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Hello,
we have the following problem on a couple of machines, with different
documents:
If, o
Yes, I've tried that. It works, but the next time I generate files, the setting
goes back.
Joe
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.
Are you saving the files after you change the setting, before you
update the second time.
And, is the List file set to double-sided pagination?
Art
On 1/25/06, Joe Malin wrote:
> Yes, I've tried that. It works, but the next time I generate files, the
> setting goes back.
>
> Joe
--
Art Campbel
Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set to
double-sided in the Pagination dialog.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those
Save it. ;-)
On 1/25/06, Joe Malin wrote:
> Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set to
> double-sided in the Pagination dialog.
--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
42.8162,-73.7736
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
I supp
I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working,
but now they work. Thanks to everyone who replied! As a lone writer, I
absolutely depend on you for help, and you always come through...
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com
The
Joe Malin wrote:
> Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list
> file is set to double-sided in the Pagination dialog.
>
Well, I hate to ask, but have you _ever_ saved the generated file(s), or
are you creating a new one each time you generate?
If the latter, that would explain
Joe,
Any time you turn around, save the file. Changing the settings as you
did is the same as altering the text in the file. If you don't save,
you lose.
Cheers,
Art
On 1/25/06, Joe Malin wrote:
> I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working,
> but now they work. Thanks
Oh yeah I save them. In fact, when I'm initially creating a generated
file, I do the trick of generating, saving, overwriting the file with my
own template file, and then regenerating.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in thi
Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Aviation Courseware Development
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
- Forwarded by Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC on 01/25/2006 12:08 PM
-
Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC
01/25/2006 12:07 PM
To
Framers, STC List
c
Jackie wondered:
"Does anyone have a very specific definition and set of examples that
differentiate GAGE and GAUGE?"
I'm no pro on this by any means but I found this by Googling and thought
that it might be applicable -->
"Gage, Gauge- Gauge is the spelling used in Great Britain but finds some
It also describes
the interior diameter of a shotgun barrel ("12 gauge", "14 gauge")
the exterior diameter of an electrical wire ("16 gauge" "8 gauge")
NOTE: for both of these, the larger the number, the smaller the
actual dimension
the spacing of track rails ("Narrow gauge",
FWIW, the technique I use and have disseminated to all the
other writers in my group is this:
- in the same directory as your book file, make a copy of each
generated file template using the expected name (for example,
booknameTOC.fm and booknameLOF.fm)
- use the book file's "Add" menu to ad
> -Original Message-
> From: John Wilcox
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:30 PM
> This came up as a possible style standards issue here.
...
> A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
> B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.
Of the 37 responses I got, 3
When I click the Format menu option in FrameMaker, the Font, Size, and
Style options are available. Obviously this can lead to applying
format overrides. I believe someone has created a plug-in that will
disable and/or remove these options...can someone remind me what the
name of it is?
Also, so
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:14:44 +0100, Jakob Fix
wrote:
>I guess one could save the old files in MIF, and load them in 7.x,
>but how can this be automated? DZBatcher? Any other ideas?
Sure. Download the free demo version of Mif2Go:
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
Install it; you only n
My team is using structured FrameMaker v7.1, Sourcerer v1.11, and
WebWorks Publisher v7.0.6 to create single-source documents to output
for different audiences and media (including print, PDF, and HTML).
Ideally, we'd like to upgrade to the latest version of all software,
including FrameMaker v7.2
Hi Eileen,
I recently used Sourcerer 1.11 with FrameMaker 7.2 and it worked fine.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Ideally, we'd like to upgrade to the latest version of all software,
including FrameMaker v7.2 and WebWorks ePublisher Pro. However,
Sourcerer (which w
Hi,
> >So, to restate my question, is there a "silent option" to open files
> >created in a previous version in 7.x?
You might test Mif2Go. It has a feature to
"Wash via MIF" which works also on book files
and in demo mode. The description in the help
file is below.
Best regards
Winfried
---
I had this problem with 7.0 once, but I was trying to set the
properties from within the component file.
Check the settings for the file in the book file. The book file
overrides the settings in the component file and changes its settings.
And, IIRC, the book file wants all its components to have
Hello,
well, we've almost finished our migration software-wise, now we need
to convert several hundreds documents to the new version.
instead of opening each and every file manually, being told that it's
a version 5 document, and agreeing to have it updated by clicking the
OK button in the dialog
I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of heading in my chapter
ToC, e.g. toc12 is <$chapnum>..
I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of chapter text heading,
e.g. Head1 is S:Section <$chapnum>. \t
I have added the number manually to each heading in my chapter T
> I *wonder*, though, if this isn't really an artifact of generated files.
> I update the pagination which fixes the problem, but then I regenerate,
> which creates a new, "broken" file. I wonder if FM is simply not smart
> enough to generate an extra page when it regenerates the list of tables.
>
Hi, Jakob:
Yes, you can automate this process. Search Google for "DoBatch," and
"DZBatcher," two free utilities that work on Windows FM, like the
FM-unix utility, fmbatch.
At 12:14 PM +0100 1/25/06, Jakob Fix wrote:
So, to restate my question, is there a "silent option" to open files
create
First, check the internal pagination setting of the generated file and
make sure it's set to double-sided, not single sided.
Then check the pagination settings of the files that come before and
after it in the book; ideally they should all be set the same and at
the book level.
Also,
Art
On 1/2
On TOC reference page of the Table of Contents document, you can add the
<$paranum> or <$paranumonly> building blocks to the xxxTOC paragraphs
(e.g., Head1TOC) to extract the number of the specific item.
For example, you might have the Head1TOC paragraph as: <$paranum>\
<$paratext>\T<$pagenum>
(w
In the reference page of the TOC find the code that looks like this:
<$paratext> <$pagenum>
Then add this to it:
<$paranum>
or
<$paranumonly>
where you feel it would do the most good :)
Likely you'll end up with this:
<$paranum> <$paratext> <$pagenum>
or
<$paranumonly> <$paratext> <$pagen
Did anyone else get this Framemaker Spam? Did he harvest the names from
this FrameUsers list?
Original Message
Subject:FrameMaker
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:49:58 +0530
From: Aggarwal, Dhiraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: XXX
Hi,
I apologize for intruding into y
Hi John,
Hopefully the bulk of people respond directly to you and maybe you can let Lisa
(and the list?) know the results... Just to avoid a flood of email as I'm sure
that you're not the only one.
I did get that same email so let's hope that we can track it. In their defense,
the content is p
Last fall, yes.
And thank you, gmail, for effective filtering.
Art
On 1/25/06, John Huntington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did anyone else get this Framemaker Spam? Did he harvest the names from
> this FrameUsers list?
>
> Original Message
> Subject:FrameMaker
> Date:
Bernard Aschwanden wrote:
Hi John, Hopefully the bulk of people respond directly to you and maybe you can
let Lisa (and the list?) know the results... Just to avoid a flood of email as
I'm sure that you're not the only one.
Yep, I've already gotten about 10 messages and it's about 50/50. I
At 10:08 am -0500 25/1/06, Bernard Aschwanden wrote:
>In a total and self promting way, consider getting Advanced FrameMaker (I have
>copies of the book) as there is a stellar, well thought out, well written,
>feature rich, intelligently designed (ha-ha) chapter just on generated files.
>Oh ya,
Joe Malin wrote:
> I'm trying to update a book with several files in it. One
> file has only one page in it. I set the pagination properties
> in Format > Page Layout
> > Pagination to "Make Page Count Even" so it will add an extra blank
> page. But every time I update the book, this file is s
Fred Ridder wrote:
That's an unrealistic attitude, John.
I think not, I have been on literally 20+ lists since about 1987 and
this is now the THIRD Spam message ever I have gotten from a mailing
list. In each of those other cases, the member was disciplined or
removed. If not, it just spira
Murray Moore wrote:
> I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of
> heading in my chapter ToC, e.g. toc12 is <$chapnum>..
>
> I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of
> chapter text heading, e.g. Head1 is S:Section <$chapnum>. \t
>
> I have added the number manu
At 9:28 am -0700 25/1/06, Combs, Richard wrote:
>If that's really true, you're doing something seriously wrong. The whole
>point of adding an autonumber to a paragraph tag definition is so that
>it will -- you know -- automatically have a number. Are you really
>manually adding numbers? If so, you
Hello,
we have the following problem on a couple of machines, with different documents:
If, on opening a file with missing figures, the user chooses to skip
this (and possibly all other figures), Frame crashes.
Occurs on some machines, not all of them. Frame is +SGML 5.5.6,
Windows is 2000 or X
Also .. FileTools has a "Force Open All Files in Book" command (just
open the book and click the menu item) ..
http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php
This isn't free, but does have a 30-day trial period which should be
sufficient to convert all of your files.
Regards,
Scott P
I just got one of these addressed to a long-gone former employee
whose mail is routed to me. This person never posted to this list.
This makes it seem that perhaps the mail is being sent to addressees
culled from multiple sources, such as company directories, Web sites,
vendor listings, and pe
Jakob,
You wrote:
we have the following problem on a couple of machines, with different
documents:
If, on opening a file with missing figures, the user chooses to skip
this (and possibly all other figures), Frame crashes.
Occurs on some machines, not all of them. Frame is +SGML 5.5.6,
Windo
Hi Jakob,
This is a known bug with Frame 5.5.6 and 6 with Windows XP. There is a patch
for 6 but I don't think there is one for 5.5.6.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Hello,
we have the following problem on a couple of machines, with different
documents:
If
Yes, I've tried that. It works, but the next time I generate files, the setting
goes back.
Joe
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.
Are you saving the files after you change the setting, before you
update the second time.
And, is the List file set to double-sided pagination?
Art
On 1/25/06, Joe Malin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I've tried that. It works, but the next time I generate files, the
> setting goes back.
>
>
Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set to
double-sided in the Pagination dialog.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of
Save it. ;-)
On 1/25/06, Joe Malin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set to
> double-sided in the Pagination dialog.
--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
42.8162,-73.7736
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working,
but now they work. Thanks to everyone who replied! As a lone writer, I
absolutely depend on you for help, and you always come through...
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.tuvox.com
The v
Joe Malin wrote:
> Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list
> file is set to double-sided in the Pagination dialog.
>
Well, I hate to ask, but have you _ever_ saved the generated file(s), or
are you creating a new one each time you generate?
If the latter, that would explai
Joe,
Any time you turn around, save the file. Changing the settings as you
did is the same as altering the text in the file. If you don't save,
you lose.
Cheers,
Art
On 1/25/06, Joe Malin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working,
> but now
Oh yeah I save them. In fact, when I'm initially creating a generated
file, I do the trick of generating, saving, overwriting the file with my
own template file, and then regenerating.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this
Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Aviation Courseware Development
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Forwarded by Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC on 01/25/2006 12:08 PM
-
Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC
01/25/2006 12:07 PM
To
Framers, STC List
cc
Subject
OT:
Jackie wondered:
"Does anyone have a very specific definition and set of examples that
differentiate GAGE and GAUGE?"
I'm no pro on this by any means but I found this by Googling and thought
that it might be applicable -->
"Gage, Gauge- Gauge is the spelling used in Great Britain but finds some
It also describes
the interior diameter of a shotgun barrel ("12 gauge", "14 gauge")
the exterior diameter of an electrical wire ("16 gauge" "8 gauge")
NOTE: for both of these, the larger the number, the smaller the
actual dimension
the spacing of track rails ("Narrow gauge",
FWIW, the technique I use and have disseminated to all the
other writers in my group is this:
- in the same directory as your book file, make a copy of each
generated file template using the expected name (for example,
booknameTOC.fm and booknameLOF.fm)
- use the book file's "Add" menu to ad
> -Original Message-
> From: John Wilcox
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:30 PM
> This came up as a possible style standards issue here.
...
> A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
> B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.
Of the 37 responses I got, 3
When I click the Format menu option in FrameMaker, the Font, Size, and
Style options are available. Obviously this can lead to applying
format overrides. I believe someone has created a plug-in that will
disable and/or remove these options...can someone remind me what the
name of it is?
Also, so
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:14:44 +0100, Jakob Fix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I guess one could save the old files in MIF, and load them in 7.x,
>but how can this be automated? DZBatcher? Any other ideas?
Sure. Download the free demo version of Mif2Go:
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
Ins
My team is using structured FrameMaker v7.1, Sourcerer v1.11, and
WebWorks Publisher v7.0.6 to create single-source documents to output
for different audiences and media (including print, PDF, and HTML).
Ideally, we'd like to upgrade to the latest version of all software,
including FrameMaker v7.2
Hi Eileen,
I recently used Sourcerer 1.11 with FrameMaker 7.2 and it worked fine.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Ideally, we'd like to upgrade to the latest version of all software,
including FrameMaker v7.2 and WebWorks ePublisher Pro. However,
Sourcerer (which
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