RE: renaming styles at the book level

[Martinek, Carla]

There are multiple ways you can do this:


FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com/)
There is a free script available called ChangePgfFormat.fsl, but you
need to pay for FrameScript.  However, there's a lot of other things you
can do with FrameScript, so it is definitely worth a look.


Paragraph Tools from Silicon Prairie Software:
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html
Paragraph Tools provides additional capabilities for working with
paragraphs in FrameMaker documents. As a documentation set ages, it
tends to get polluted with extra paragraph tags that are no longer used.
Paragraph Tools can help. Its capabilities include listing paragraph tag
usage, removing unused paragraph tags from Frame documents, converting
paragraphs to use different tags, and locating and removing paragraph
tag overrides. It also contains a routine that generates a report
listing all the characteristics of the paragraph tags defined in a
document.

Paragraph Tools is $10 for a single-user license, $100 for a site
license, and is available for FrameMaker 6.x and 7.x on Windows and
Macintosh.


ToolBox from Systec
http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php#

I believe this module covers it, although I haven't used it.

Module (with fee): Statistics, Format List, Special characters,
Definiton Editor, Book Transfer, Named Destinations, Book Save as MIF,
Book MIF Save as FM Book, Adapt imported graphics, Replace format names,
Export imported Graphics/re-size to original size and scale, Find/Change
and Index Markers by Configuration, Update Chapter TOC, Left/Right
Alignment, Server Analysis and PDF's Book in Book.


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Re: Plugin or Script for printing out paragraph format properties

[frameusers]

Answer: Yes - TOOLBOX x.x for FrameMaker
Modul: List formats
Download: www.toolboxforme.com
Demo for 30 days.

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Hello All,

Does anyone know of a plugin or script that will print out paragraph
format
properties from a FrameMaker document? Thanks.

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External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

[Nantel, Elise]

Hi Framers,

We just converted an SDK project from Robohelp to FM/ePublisher because of 
Robohelp being discontinued. This project contains two sections: a Programmer 
Guide with overviews, descriptions, and sample code, and a Reference Guide that 
is automatically generated by extracting comments in the actual C# code. The 
final product was two CHM files.

The tool used to generate the Reference Guide is NDoc and is part of the .NET 
Framework. The available output formats are HTML and HTML Help only (no XML or 
PDF).

When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file into the Programmer 
Guide, and was able to do external cross-references from the Programmer Guide 
to the Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). However, now in 
FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what I see, I can only do xrefs to another 
FM document. 

Are there plug-ins available? Or new tools to use?

Please answer me directly since I'm on the digest. 

I'm using FM 7.0 on Windows XP.

Thanks a lot.

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Re: Plugin or Script for printing out paragraph format properties

[frameusers]

Answer: Yes - TOOLBOX x.x for FrameMaker
Modul: List formats
Download: www.toolboxforme.com
Demo for 30 days.

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Does anyone know of a plugin or script that will print out paragraph
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Cross reference keyboard shortcut

[Natalie Bircher]

Is there a keyboard shortcut for inserting cross references? 

 

 

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Need Track Changes Tool/Plugin for Acrobat

[Susan . Corcoran]

Hi All,

I'm looking for a tool or a plugin that will track the changes between 
pdfs (the Compare Documents feature in Acrobat is worthless).  I can track 
changes in FM, but I need to run comparisons between documents created in 
other programs as well (InDesign, Word, etc.).  So that leads me to 
Acrobat, since our output is always in pdf.  Does anyone have any 
suggestions?

Please reply directly as I'm on digest.

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Re: Cross reference keyboard shortcut

[Peter Gold]

Tap and release these keys in sequence: Esc s c (lowercase matters), for 
Special  Cross Reference. Navigate the dialog box to choose what you need.


HTH

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Re: Cross reference keyboard shortcut

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Natalie,

Press the following keys sequentially:

Escape s c

(As in, Escape special cross-reference) 


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RE: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo

[Michael.Long]

 Paul,

Could folks give me their thoughts on TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
(beta) from intech dot com?

A year or two ago I installed TrackChanges on FrameMaker 7.0p579.
Afterward FrameMaker began crashing when I edited text. Never had done
so previously. I eventually figured out that deleting words with
Ctrl-Delete was causing the FrameMaker failures. After fruitless
troubleshooting and research, including a note to this list, I happened
to remove TrackChanges. No crashes since then. 

Mike


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Re: Structured FM Roundtripping

[Lynne A. Price]

Marsha,
  Do you have a r/w write rule that maps the tgroup element to a table? Is 
the TCaption element declared in your DTD and defined in the EDD to a 
FrameMaker table title? FM does treat an element named tgroup specially; 
it tries to interpret it in light of the CALS table model, and your 
definition is not quite the standard one.

--Lynne


At 05:45 PM 12/11/2006, Lofthouse Marsha-PT1816 wrote:

I can now open them in FrameMaker with no errors and the structure is
exactly as I defined it. However, when I save the XML file, my TCaption
element disappears.

Definitions:
!ELEMENT tgroup (TCaption?, THead?, TBody, TFooter?) 

!ELEMENT TCaption (#PCDATA | Emphasis | lots of other stuff)* 
!ATTLIST TCaption Target ID #REQUIRED 

The TCaption element (and it's contents) is there when I open the file.
There are no errors showing in the Structure View.

When I save the XML file from FrameMaker, I get an error indicating an
ID attribute was referenced but never declared. That is because the ID
attribute in question is declared in TCaption.

I've been staring at this way too long today.

If you need more information, let me know.

Thanks in advance for any clues you might be able to give me.

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RE: Cross reference keyboard shortcut

[Charles Beck]

You can also use the following key combination, which I find a little
easier: ALT+s  c

HTH,
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Subject: Re: Cross reference keyboard shortcut

Tap and release these keys in sequence: Esc s c (lowercase matters), for
Special  Cross Reference. Navigate the dialog box to choose what you
need.

HTH

Regards,

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KnowHow ProServices

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 Is there a keyboard shortcut for inserting cross references? 

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Re: Chapter Numbering

[obair81]

Translation.

The translation must be done in Word, so I will need to convert from Frame to 
Word, and this caused huge linking problems between the Word files the last 
time I did it with multiple Frame files in the Frame book.  

Having one Frame content file, though it is not ideal for me, saves me from 
huge headaches down the road in this context.

Paul

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 Why do you need all chapters inside a single file?
 
 --Doug
 
 On 12/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am trying to find the right Autonumber format for my Chapter tag. Up till 
 now, I had separate files for each chapter, but now I need to have a Frame 
 book 
 with just one core file that contains all my chapters.
 
  The Autonumber format that I had been using looks like this:
  H:Chapter $chapnum \t
  but that does not work right when multiple chapters are in one file. Each 
 chapter becomes chapter 1.
 
  I have not been able to decipher Frame's help to understand what I need to 
  do 
 to make an Autonumber format that properly numbers multiple chapters in one 
 file.
 
  Can anyone tell me where I might get some guidance?  Thanks.
 
  best,
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Re: External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:07:55 -0500, Nantel, Elise 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file 
into the Programmer Guide, and was able to do external 
cross-references from the Programmer Guide to the 
Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). 
However, now in FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what 
I see, I can only do xrefs to another FM document.

That's correct.  Frame xrefs are only for use with other
Frame docs.  However, you can use Frame hypertext links
to anything.  To do that, you would place a Frame marker 
of type Hypertext with content like:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
for a file in a subdirectory below the Frame file.  You
need to specify a path that will be valid from the HTML
produced for the Frame file.  To mark the hotspot for 
the link, apply a char format (which can be all as is)
to the hotspot text; the marker must also be within the
span of the char format.  See the Frame docs for more
on the many kinds of hypertext markers available.

HTH!


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RE: Chapter Numbering

[Lester C. Smalley]

You simply can not use the $chapnum variable for this - it can only have
a single value in any one file.  

So you have to redesign your numbering scheme to use standard counter
building block, such as n and n+. 

Depending on how other items number, for example, are heading in the
chapter numbered like 1.1 where the first digit (left of the decimal
point) is the chapter number and the next is the actual heading number,
or tables/figures designated with compound numbers like Figure 2.3
(again, where the left digit is the chapter number, you may have to
modify many paragraph tags' numbering properties.

For a lot more info about compound numbering sequences in FrameMaker,
take a look at my numbering whitepaper at
http://www.infocon.com/images/autonum.pdf

 
On Tuesday, December 12, 2006 02:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
| I am trying to find the right Autonumber format for my 
| Chapter tag. Up till now, I had separate files for each 
| chapter, but now I need to have a Frame book with just one 
| core file that contains all my chapters.
| 
| The Autonumber format that I had been using looks like this:
| H:Chapter $chapnum \t
| but that does not work right when multiple chapters are in 
| one file. Each chapter becomes chapter 1.
| 
| I have not been able to decipher Frame's help to understand 
| what I need to do to make an Autonumber format that properly 
| numbers multiple chapters in one file.
| 
| Can anyone tell me where I might get some guidance?  Thanks.
| 
| best,
| Paul

- Lester 
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FW: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo

[Diane Gaskill]

Mike,

Did you report the problem to whoever makes TrackChanges?  Is there a fix
coming?

Thanks,

Diane
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Subject: RE: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo


 Paul,

Could folks give me their thoughts on TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
(beta) from intech dot com?

A year or two ago I installed TrackChanges on FrameMaker 7.0p579.
Afterward FrameMaker began crashing when I edited text. Never had done
so previously. I eventually figured out that deleting words with
Ctrl-Delete was causing the FrameMaker failures. After fruitless
troubleshooting and research, including a note to this list, I happened
to remove TrackChanges. No crashes since then.

Mike


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RE: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo

[Michael.Long]

Diane,
I don't recall whether I got to that. I was very occupied at the time.

Mike  

 -Original Message-
 From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:30 PM
 To: Long, Michael (THMST)
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; dgh
 Subject: FW: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
 
 Mike,
 
 Did you report the problem to whoever makes TrackChanges?  Is 
 there a fix coming?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Diane
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  Paul,
 
 Could folks give me their thoughts on TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
 (beta) from intech dot com?
 
 A year or two ago I installed TrackChanges on FrameMaker 7.0p579.
 Afterward FrameMaker began crashing when I edited text. Never 
 had done so previously. I eventually figured out that 
 deleting words with Ctrl-Delete was causing the FrameMaker 
 failures. After fruitless troubleshooting and research, 
 including a note to this list, I happened to remove 
 TrackChanges. No crashes since then.
 
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Re: External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:14:26 -0500, Nantel, Elise 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for this info. However, I have one question: 
Since I'm not generating the target document (HTML or 
CHM), how will I know the anchor to specify in the 
Hypertext command?

The anchor part in:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
is optional; use it if you need to point at a paragraph
within the HTML file.  For that, open the HTML file in
Notepad and look for an anchor tag like
  a name=anchorname/a
at the start of the paragraph you want to display.

Otherwise, if you want to show the HTML file at its
top, just use:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm

References to CHMs are a little trickier:
  message URL mk:@MSITStore:Helpfile.chm::/topic.htm#anchor
The .chm must be in the same directory as the Frame-
produced HTML file, unlass you can specify an absolute 
(not relative) path to it that will be valid on all
users' machines.  Registering the .chm doesn't help.

HTH!

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RE: External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

[Nantel, Elise]

Jeremy,

Thanks for this info. However, I have one question: Since I'm not generating 
the target document (HTML or CHM), how will I know the anchor to specify in the 
Hypertext command?

Elise

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From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 décembre 2006 15:03
To: Nantel, Elise
Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:07:55 -0500, Nantel, Elise 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file 
into the Programmer Guide, and was able to do external 
cross-references from the Programmer Guide to the 
Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). 
However, now in FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what 
I see, I can only do xrefs to another FM document.

That's correct.  Frame xrefs are only for use with other
Frame docs.  However, you can use Frame hypertext links
to anything.  To do that, you would place a Frame marker 
of type Hypertext with content like:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
for a file in a subdirectory below the Frame file.  You
need to specify a path that will be valid from the HTML
produced for the Frame file.  To mark the hotspot for 
the link, apply a char format (which can be all as is)
to the hotspot text; the marker must also be within the
span of the char format.  See the Frame docs for more
on the many kinds of hypertext markers available.

HTH!


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/

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RE: Structured FM Roundtripping

[Lynne A. Price]

Marsha,
  I have done some testing (using FM 7.2, but table handling did not 
change from 7.1 to 7.2) with several variations of the model you describe. 
As I suspected, the problem seems to involve use of the element names from 
the CALS table model. In particular, the CALS table model is a five level 
hierarchy. A CALS table consists of:


1. The Table element
2. One or more Tgroup elements, each of which is a block of adjacent rows. 
Successive Tgroups may have different numbers of columns and columns of 
different widths. Even within one Tgroup, however, a particular entry can 
span or straddle multiple rows or columns.

3. THead, TBody, TFoot elements within each Tgroup
4. Rows within each THead, TBody, TFoot
5. Entries within the rows

  In contrast, the FrameMaker table model has four levels:

1. The table
2. Heading, body, and footing parts
3. Rows within the heading, body, and footing
4. Cells within the rows

In both models, any table title (or caption)is a child of the root table 
element. FrameMaker supports two ways of mapping between this two models, 
and it uses the names table and tgroup to determine when the mapping is 
needed. One variation is to preserve all five levels of the CALS model. 
Here the outermost level, the element named Table is a FrameMaker 
container, any title is a container that is a child of that element, and 
each Tgroup is a FrameMaker table without a title. The advantage of this 
approach is that it keeps the CALS model; the primary disadvantage is that 
the table title is a container rather than a table title and hence does not 
repeat on every page of a multipage table. A second disadvantage is that in 
most applications tables never have more than one Tgroup and hence users 
may wonder why the extra element is needed.


The second variation of the CALS table model assumes there is always 
exactly one Tgroup per Table. In this case the Tgroup element exists only 
in XML, the Table element is a FrameMaker table and any title is a 
FrameMaker table title.


Your application seems to be using the five-level model in FrameMaker, but 
using a FrameMaker table title. Without a custom plug-in, FrameMaker cannot 
move the table title from the Tgroup to the containing Table as called for 
in CALS, so it drops it. Even if your DTD defines the TCaption element as a 
child of the TGroup, FrameMaker tries to force your data to the CALS model.


Various simple modifications allow you to export your data. For example, 
you can change the name of Tgroup to something else (I used TgroupX). By 
the way, recognition of the name tgroup is case-insensitive. You can get 
rid of the wrapper Table element. You can move the caption to a container 
preceding the Tgroup.


--Lynne




At 10:31 AM 12/12/2006, Lofthouse Marsha-PT1816 wrote:

Hi Lynne,

I have tried both of these in the r/w rules to no avail:
element TCaption is fm table title element;
and
element TCaption is fm table title element TCaption;

I also have r/w rules for table copied from Appendix B of the Structure
Application Developer's Guide:
element table
{
  is fm element;
  attributes blah blah blah
}

element tgroup
{
  is fm table element;
  attributes blah blah blah
}

Yes, the TCaption element is declared in the DTD and defined in the EDD
as (Table Title).

How does the CALS model deal with table captions? I haven't found that
in the Structure Application Developer's Guide, but I'll keep looking,
both there and on the net.



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Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training

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Re: OT: Acro 7 Pro dies without warning

[John Pitt]

For the archives:

Finally found a solution going through the Acrobat Windows user to user 
forum. It eventuated that I was definitely not alone, and that there is 
the same or similar thing happening with some Acro Pro 8 installations 
(which all shut down within 10 seconds without warning).


Anyway, to close the loop, here is the link to the article which 
contained my fix (solutions 2 and 4 seemed to do the trick):


http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/331958.html

John Pitt wrote:

Thought I'd finished with my Acrobat woes -- but ... wrong!

I upgraded my work XP Pro laptop and home PC from Acro 5 to 7.08 a 
couple of weeks ago. The home PC works fine now (thanks Fred!), but when 
I run Acro 7 on the laptop, all is OK until about one minute has passed. 
It then closes with no warning or other messages.


I have searched through the Acro user-to-user forum and the other Adobe 
KB articles and have gone through all the possible causes in 
Troubleshoot system errors or freezes, but with no luck.


I suspect there is some link with system timing on the laptop, because 
when I ran with a different login at a different client site today, it 
died consistently within about 10 seconds!


Does anyone have any idea what is causing my problem and how to fix it?

Specs: Dell Inspiron 9400, 2 GHz Core 2 Duo, XP Pro with all updates, 2 
GHz RAM, nvidia GEForce Go 7900 GS.


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Searching in text insets

[Whites]

Today, from within the main document, I searched on a string in a  
text inset and was surprised to find that the FM search function did  
not find it.
Am I being obtuse (happens a lot) or is this the way things are  
supposed to be?

Any help will be appreciated.

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RE: Searching in text insets

[Fred Ridder]

Supposed to be could be argued, but it certainly is the way
things *are*. Text insets are treated as black boxes by the
Find/Change operation. You can search for them as a type
of object, but you cannot search for text strings within
those referenced objects from the containing document.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
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Intel
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Subject: Searching in text insets
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:19:40 -0800

Today, from within the main document, I searched on a string in a  text 
inset and was surprised to find that the FM search function did  not find 
it.
Am I being obtuse (happens a lot) or is this the way things are  supposed 
to be?

Any help will be appreciated.

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renaming styles at the book level

[Martinek, Carla]

There are multiple ways you can do this:


FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com/)
There is a free script available called ChangePgfFormat.fsl, but you
need to pay for FrameScript.  However, there's a lot of other things you
can do with FrameScript, so it is definitely worth a look.


Paragraph Tools from Silicon Prairie Software:
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html
Paragraph Tools provides additional capabilities for working with
paragraphs in FrameMaker documents. As a documentation set ages, it
tends to get polluted with extra paragraph tags that are no longer used.
Paragraph Tools can help. Its capabilities include listing paragraph tag
usage, removing unused paragraph tags from Frame documents, converting
paragraphs to use different tags, and locating and removing paragraph
tag overrides. It also contains a routine that generates a report
listing all the characteristics of the paragraph tags defined in a
document.

Paragraph Tools is $10 for a single-user license, $100 for a site
license, and is available for FrameMaker 6.x and 7.x on Windows and
Macintosh.


ToolBox from Systec
http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php#

I believe this module covers it, although I haven't used it.

Module (with fee): Statistics, Format List, Special characters,
Definiton Editor, Book Transfer, Named Destinations, Book Save as MIF,
Book MIF Save as FM Book, Adapt imported graphics, Replace format names,
Export imported Graphics/re-size to original size and scale, Find/Change
and Index Markers by Configuration, Update Chapter TOC, Left/Right
Alignment, Server Analysis and PDF's Book in Book.


--Carla

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Plugin or Script for printing out paragraph format properties

[frameus...@systec-gmbh.com]

Answer: Yes - TOOLBOX x.x for FrameMaker
Modul: List formats
Download: www.toolboxforme.com
Demo for 30 days.

Georg Eck
(CEO and Adobe Certified Expert)
Midlothian, VA
usa at systec-gmbh.com


>Hello All,
>
>Does anyone know of a plugin or script that will print out paragraph
format
>properties from a FrameMaker document? Thanks.

Need Track Changes Tool/Plugin for Acrobat

[susan.corco...@handheld.com]

Hi All,

I'm looking for a tool or a plugin that will track the changes between 
pdfs (the Compare Documents feature in Acrobat is worthless).  I can track 
changes in FM, but I need to run comparisons between documents created in 
other programs as well (InDesign, Word, etc.).  So that leads me to 
Acrobat, since our output is always in pdf.  Does anyone have any 
suggestions?

Please reply directly as I'm on digest.

~
Susan Corcoran
Hand Held Products
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Cross reference keyboard shortcut

[Peter Gold]

Tap and release these keys in sequence: Esc s c (lowercase matters), for 
Special > Cross Reference. Navigate the dialog box to choose what you need.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Natalie Bircher wrote:
> Is there a keyboard shortcut for inserting cross references? 
>
>  
>
>  
>   

Cross reference keyboard shortcut

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Natalie,

Press the following keys sequentially:

Escape s c

(As in, Escape special cross-reference) 

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

TrackChanges and Multiple Undo

[michael.l...@thomson.com]

 Paul,

>Could folks give me their thoughts on TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
(beta) from intech dot com?

A year or two ago I installed TrackChanges on FrameMaker 7.0p579.
Afterward FrameMaker began crashing when I edited text. Never had done
so previously. I eventually figured out that deleting words with
Ctrl-Delete was causing the FrameMaker failures. After fruitless
troubleshooting and research, including a note to this list, I happened
to remove TrackChanges. No crashes since then. 

Mike

Structured FM Roundtripping

[Lynne A. Price]

Marsha,
   Do you have a r/w write rule that maps the tgroup element to a table? Is 
the TCaption element declared in your DTD and defined in the EDD to a 
FrameMaker table title? FM does treat an element named "tgroup" specially; 
it tries to interpret it in light of the CALS table model, and your 
definition is not quite the standard one.
 --Lynne


At 05:45 PM 12/11/2006, Lofthouse Marsha-PT1816 wrote:
>I can now open them in FrameMaker with no errors and the structure is
>exactly as I defined it. However, when I save the XML file, my TCaption
>element disappears.
>
>Definitions:
>
>
>
>
>
>The TCaption element (and it's contents) is there when I open the file.
>There are no errors showing in the Structure View.
>
>When I save the XML file from FrameMaker, I get an error indicating an
>ID attribute was referenced but never declared. That is because the ID
>attribute in question is declared in TCaption.
>
>I've been staring at this way too long today.
>
>If you need more information, let me know.
>
>Thanks in advance for any clues you might be able to give me.
>
>Marsha Lofthouse
>Motorola, Inc., Public Safety Applications
>North America Government & Commercial Markets Division
>Boulder Design Center
>Marsha.Lofthouse at motorola.com
>303.527.4178
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and training
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Cross reference keyboard shortcut

[Charles Beck]

You can also use the following key combination, which I find a little
easier: ALT+s  c

HTH,
Chuck


-Original Message-
Subject: Re: Cross reference keyboard shortcut

Tap and release these keys in sequence: Esc s c (lowercase matters), for
Special > Cross Reference. Navigate the dialog box to choose what you
need.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Natalie Bircher wrote:
> Is there a keyboard shortcut for inserting cross references? 
>

Chapter Numbering

[obai...@comcast.net]

I am trying to find the right Autonumber format for my Chapter tag. Up till 
now, I had separate files for each chapter, but now I need to have a Frame book 
with just one core file that contains all my chapters.

The Autonumber format that I had been using looks like this:
H:Chapter <$chapnum> \t
but that does not work right when multiple chapters are in one file. Each 
chapter becomes chapter 1.

I have not been able to decipher Frame's help to understand what I need to do 
to make an Autonumber format that properly numbers multiple chapters in one 
file.

Can anyone tell me where I might get some guidance?  Thanks.

best,
Paul

Chapter Numbering

[obai...@comcast.net]

Translation.

The translation must be done in Word, so I will need to convert from Frame to 
Word, and this caused huge linking problems between the Word files the last 
time I did it with multiple Frame files in the Frame book.  

Having one Frame content file, though it is not ideal for me, saves me from 
huge headaches down the road in this context.

Paul

 -- Original message --
From: Doug 
> Why do you need all chapters inside a single file?
> 
> --Doug
> 
> On 12/12/06, obair81 at comcast.net  wrote:
> > I am trying to find the right Autonumber format for my Chapter tag. Up till 
> now, I had separate files for each chapter, but now I need to have a Frame 
> book 
> with just one core file that contains all my chapters.
> >
> > The Autonumber format that I had been using looks like this:
> > H:Chapter <$chapnum> \t
> > but that does not work right when multiple chapters are in one file. Each 
> chapter becomes chapter 1.
> >
> > I have not been able to decipher Frame's help to understand what I need to 
> > do 
> to make an Autonumber format that properly numbers multiple chapters in one 
> file.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me where I might get some guidance?  Thanks.
> >
> > best,
> > Paul
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External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:07:55 -0500, "Nantel, Elise" 
 wrote:

>When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file 
>into the Programmer Guide, and was able to do external 
>cross-references from the Programmer Guide to the 
>Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). 
>However, now in FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what 
>I see, I can only do xrefs to another FM document.

That's correct.  Frame xrefs are only for use with other
Frame docs.  However, you can use Frame hypertext links
to anything.  To do that, you would place a Frame marker 
of type Hypertext with content like:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
for a file in a subdirectory below the Frame file.  You
need to specify a path that will be valid from the HTML
produced for the Frame file.  To mark the hotspot for 
the link, apply a char format (which can be all "as is")
to the hotspot text; the marker must also be within the
span of the char format.  See the Frame docs for more
on the many kinds of hypertext markers available.

HTH!


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Chapter Numbering

[Lester C. Smalley]

You simply can not use the $chapnum variable for this - it can only have
a single value in any one file.  

So you have to redesign your numbering scheme to use standard counter
building block, such as  and . 

Depending on how other items number, for example, are heading in the
chapter numbered like 1.1 where the first digit (left of the decimal
point) is the chapter number and the next is the actual heading number,
or tables/figures designated with compound numbers like Figure 2.3
(again, where the left digit is the chapter number, you may have to
modify many paragraph tags' numbering properties.

For a lot more info about compound numbering sequences in FrameMaker,
take a look at my numbering whitepaper at
http://www.infocon.com/images/autonum.pdf


On Tuesday, December 12, 2006 02:06 PM, obair81 at comcast.net wrote:

| I am trying to find the right Autonumber format for my 
| Chapter tag. Up till now, I had separate files for each 
| chapter, but now I need to have a Frame book with just one 
| core file that contains all my chapters.
| 
| The Autonumber format that I had been using looks like this:
| H:Chapter <$chapnum> \t
| but that does not work right when multiple chapters are in 
| one file. Each chapter becomes chapter 1.
| 
| I have not been able to decipher Frame's help to understand 
| what I need to do to make an Autonumber format that properly 
| numbers multiple chapters in one file.
| 
| Can anyone tell me where I might get some guidance?  Thanks.
| 
| best,
| Paul

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FW: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo

[Diane Gaskill]

Mike,

Did you report the problem to whoever makes TrackChanges?  Is there a fix
coming?

Thanks,

Diane
===

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[mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:45 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo


 Paul,

>Could folks give me their thoughts on TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
(beta) from intech dot com?

A year or two ago I installed TrackChanges on FrameMaker 7.0p579.
Afterward FrameMaker began crashing when I edited text. Never had done
so previously. I eventually figured out that deleting words with
Ctrl-Delete was causing the FrameMaker failures. After fruitless
troubleshooting and research, including a note to this list, I happened
to remove TrackChanges. No crashes since then.

Mike


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TrackChanges and Multiple Undo

[michael.l...@thomson.com]

Diane,
I don't recall whether I got to that. I was very occupied at the time.

Mike  

> -Original Message-
> From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcaller at earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:30 PM
> To: Long, Michael (THMST)
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; dgh
> Subject: FW: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Did you report the problem to whoever makes TrackChanges?  Is 
> there a fix coming?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Diane
> ===
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
> Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:45 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
> 
> 
>  Paul,
> 
> >Could folks give me their thoughts on TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
> (beta) from intech dot com?
> 
> A year or two ago I installed TrackChanges on FrameMaker 7.0p579.
> Afterward FrameMaker began crashing when I edited text. Never 
> had done so previously. I eventually figured out that 
> deleting words with Ctrl-Delete was causing the FrameMaker 
> failures. After fruitless troubleshooting and research, 
> including a note to this list, I happened to remove 
> TrackChanges. No crashes since then.
> 
> Mike
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External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:14:26 -0500, "Nantel, Elise" 
 wrote:

>Thanks for this info. However, I have one question: 
>Since I'm not generating the target document (HTML or 
>CHM), how will I know the anchor to specify in the 
>Hypertext command?

The "anchor" part in:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
is optional; use it if you need to point at a paragraph
within the HTML file.  For that, open the HTML file in
Notepad and look for an anchor tag like
  
at the start of the paragraph you want to display.

Otherwise, if you want to show the HTML file at its
top, just use:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm

References to CHMs are a little trickier:
  message URL mk:@MSITStore:Helpfile.chm::/topic.htm#anchor
The .chm must be in the same directory as the Frame-
produced HTML file, unlass you can specify an absolute 
(not relative) path to it that will be valid on all
users' machines.  Registering the .chm doesn't help.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

TrackChanges and Multiple Undo

[Gillian Flato]

There is no fix and it is still unstable. It caused my Frame 7.0 to
crash multiple times. I called the company. They have no intention of
fixing it since everyone is upgrading to 7.2 and getting multiple undo
from Adobe. 


Thank you,

Gillian Flato

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:42 PM
To: dgcaller at earthlink.net
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; diane.gaskill at hds.com
Subject: RE: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo

Diane,
I don't recall whether I got to that. I was very occupied at the time.

Mike  

> -Original Message-
> From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcaller at earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:30 PM
> To: Long, Michael (THMST)
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; dgh
> Subject: FW: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Did you report the problem to whoever makes TrackChanges?  Is 
> there a fix coming?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Diane
> ===
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
> Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:45 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
> 
> 
>  Paul,
> 
> >Could folks give me their thoughts on TrackChanges and Multiple Undo
> (beta) from intech dot com?
> 
> A year or two ago I installed TrackChanges on FrameMaker 7.0p579.
> Afterward FrameMaker began crashing when I edited text. Never 
> had done so previously. I eventually figured out that 
> deleting words with Ctrl-Delete was causing the FrameMaker 
> failures. After fruitless troubleshooting and research, 
> including a note to this list, I happened to remove 
> TrackChanges. No crashes since then.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
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External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

[Nantel, Elise]

Jeremy,

Thanks for this info. However, I have one question: Since I'm not generating 
the target document (HTML or CHM), how will I know the anchor to specify in the 
Hypertext command?

Elise

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] 
Sent: 12 d?cembre 2006 15:03
To: Nantel, Elise
Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:07:55 -0500, "Nantel, Elise" 
 wrote:

>When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file 
>into the Programmer Guide, and was able to do external 
>cross-references from the Programmer Guide to the 
>Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). 
>However, now in FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what 
>I see, I can only do xrefs to another FM document.

That's correct.  Frame xrefs are only for use with other
Frame docs.  However, you can use Frame hypertext links
to anything.  To do that, you would place a Frame marker 
of type Hypertext with content like:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
for a file in a subdirectory below the Frame file.  You
need to specify a path that will be valid from the HTML
produced for the Frame file.  To mark the hotspot for 
the link, apply a char format (which can be all "as is")
to the hotspot text; the marker must also be within the
span of the char format.  See the Frame docs for more
on the many kinds of hypertext markers available.

HTH!


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

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Structured FM Roundtripping

[Lynne A. Price]

Marsha,
   I have done some testing (using FM 7.2, but table handling did not 
change from 7.1 to 7.2) with several variations of the model you describe. 
As I suspected, the problem seems to involve use of the element names from 
the CALS table model. In particular, the CALS table model is a five level 
hierarchy. A CALS table consists of:

1. The Table element
2. One or more Tgroup elements, each of which is a block of adjacent rows. 
Successive Tgroups may have different numbers of columns and columns of 
different widths. Even within one Tgroup, however, a particular entry can 
span or straddle multiple rows or columns.
3. THead, TBody, TFoot elements within each Tgroup
4. Rows within each THead, TBody, TFoot
5. Entries within the rows

   In contrast, the FrameMaker table model has four levels:

1. The table
2. Heading, body, and footing parts
3. Rows within the heading, body, and footing
4. Cells within the rows

In both models, any table title (or caption)is a child of the root table 
element. FrameMaker supports two ways of mapping between this two models, 
and it uses the names "table" and "tgroup" to determine when the mapping is 
needed. One variation is to preserve all five levels of the CALS model. 
Here the outermost level, the element named Table is a FrameMaker 
container, any title is a container that is a child of that element, and 
each Tgroup is a FrameMaker table without a title. The advantage of this 
approach is that it keeps the CALS model; the primary disadvantage is that 
the table title is a container rather than a table title and hence does not 
repeat on every page of a multipage table. A second disadvantage is that in 
most applications tables never have more than one Tgroup and hence users 
may wonder why the extra element is needed.

The second variation of the CALS table model assumes there is always 
exactly one Tgroup per Table. In this case the Tgroup element exists only 
in XML, the Table element is a FrameMaker table and any title is a 
FrameMaker table title.

Your application seems to be using the five-level model in FrameMaker, but 
using a FrameMaker table title. Without a custom plug-in, FrameMaker cannot 
move the table title from the Tgroup to the containing Table as called for 
in CALS, so it drops it. Even if your DTD defines the TCaption element as a 
child of the TGroup, FrameMaker tries to force your data to the CALS model.

Various simple modifications allow you to export your data. For example, 
you can change the name of Tgroup to something else (I used TgroupX). By 
the way, recognition of the name "tgroup" is case-insensitive. You can get 
rid of the wrapper Table element. You can move the caption to a container 
preceding the Tgroup.

 --Lynne




At 10:31 AM 12/12/2006, Lofthouse Marsha-PT1816 wrote:
>Hi Lynne,
>
>I have tried both of these in the r/w rules to no avail:
>element "TCaption" is fm table title element;
>and
>element "TCaption" is fm table title element "TCaption";
>
>I also have r/w rules for table copied from Appendix B of the Structure
>Application Developer's Guide:
>element "table"
>{
>   is fm element;
>   attributes blah blah blah
>}
>
>element "tgroup"
>{
>   is fm table element;
>   attributes blah blah blah
>}
>
>Yes, the TCaption element is declared in the DTD and defined in the EDD
>as (Table Title).
>
>How does the CALS model deal with table captions? I haven't found that
>in the Structure Application Developer's Guide, but I'll keep looking,
>both there and on the net.


Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
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