Within Adobe Acrobat Reader, is FrameMaker markup (e.g., Track Text) searchable?

[Avraham Makeler]

Hi all,
Is FrameMaker Track Text searchable within Adobe Reader (or some
equivalent)?

(Or even within Acrobat?)

If not, is there any type of markup that is automatically applied when
editing within FM, that is transfered to the PDF, and is searchable within
Adobe Reader (or some equivalent)?

Thanks,

- avi

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Mike Wickham]

> But what I don't understand is why so many Framers are saying they work
> with some or all of the Designer dialogs open. Why? Are you all creating
> new formats on the fly, continually as you write??

Mostly it's just for convenience. My templates are stable, so I don't change 
or create formats often, but I have a three-monitor setup, so I like to have 
the main FrameMaker window open on one monitor, holding a two-page spread. 
The palettes are open on an adjacent monitor, where they never overlap the 
text, and are always ready when I need them-- without need for opening or 
positioning. I've been using the Leximation RestoreWindows plugin to open 
the palettes automatically when a document opens.

Mike Wickham 

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Richard Combs wrote:
> Your explanation makes sense, and suggests that the degree of slowdown
will depend on how many different pgf and char tags the cursor moves
through. There's a lot of information displayed in the Designer dialogs,
and if it changes every few characters or lines... 

I *think* (not sure though) that FM seems to check *every* time the
arrow key is pressed, regardless of whether there is an actual char tag
that it moves through. So, it slows down even when simply moving along
the same paragraph for example.

> But what I don't understand is why so many Framers are saying they
work with some or all of the Designer dialogs open. Why? Are you all
creating new formats on the fly, continually as you write??

Not really. It is mostly for convenience in my case. Which is why I am
going to try to run without them for a while! :)

Z

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Kelly McDaniel]

It may be good news that FrameMaker v9 includes the para, char, and
other design windows as floating pallets. In my tests on v9, there was
no discernable difference when the pallets were displayed or closed. The
pallets can be minimized at two levels.

To recap:  I think we are pretty well resolved that the issue with
FrameMaker 8 is caused by mouse gestures that must be registered in the
open dialog windows...pretty code intensive/processor intensive.

I believe this issue is resolved with FM v9...regards, Kelly.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Syed.Hosain at aeris.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:19 PM
To: Mike Wickham; Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

This pretty much sums up what I saw with some testing too, but I did not
go to the level of detail that you have done here!

I think that the constant "refresh" of information inside the Para and
Char Designer boxes is what causes the slowdown.

Thanks for the detailed information, Mike!

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:52 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

I have the same slow cursor speed with FrameMaker 8.0p277 on Windows XP
Pro and on Vista.

1. If the Paragraph Designer is the only palette open, it takes 8
seconds to scroll across a 50-character column using the right-arrow
key.

2. If the Character Designer is the only palette open, it takes 4
seconds to scroll.

3. If any of the other palettes are open alone, it takes only 2-seconds
to scroll, which is about what I expect.

Opening palettes in combination slows the scroll rate further. There are
six palettes that I like to have open: the Paragraph Designer, Character
Designer, and Table Designer, and  the Paragraph Catalog, Character
Catalog, and Tool palette. I've discovered that two of these are causing
the issue. Here are some notes:

1. If all six palettes are open, it takes about 13 seconds to scroll
across a 50-character column by holding down the right arrow key. Yikes!
Too slow!

2. If I then close the Paragraph Designer, it only takes about 5 seconds
to scroll across the column.

3. If I also close the Character Designer, it drops to around 2 seconds.
That's about as it should be.

4. Closing any or all of the remaining palettes also results in a
2-second normal scroll rate.

So the slowness problem appears to be linked to having  the Paragraph
Designer and Character Designer palettes. Hopefully, this issue will be
fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :)

Mike Wickham


- Original Message - 
From: "Avraham Makeler" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC


I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that
clobbers
my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in
my
arch. as compared to some other machine.



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Within Adobe Acrobat Reader, is FrameMaker markup (e.g., Track Text) searchable?

[Fred Ridder]

Responding to Avi Makeler, Art Campbell wrote:> Yes it is, assuming you have 
the related conditional text setting turned ON.
But I think this is the correct answer to a different question than what 
Avi was asking. The answer is correct in the sense that any text that 
appears in the PDF (i.e. by virtue of the condition being set to show)
will be searchable *as text*.  But it seems clear that Avi was asking 
whether its possible to find arbitrary content by its FrameMaker markup. 
As far as I know, that is not possible because Acrobat's search function
is strictly text-based (at least as of Acrobat 7.0 Pro, which is still the 
standard version at my current employer). As far as I know, FrameMaker's
condition markup is only preserved as character appearance (e.g. indicator
colors) in PDF, and I knw I know of no way to have Acrobat search for
content based on appearance rather than the presence of a specific 
text string.

-Fred Ridder

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Avraham Makeler]

I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that clobbers
my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in my
arch. as compared to some other machine.

Tnx

avi


On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Reng, Winfried  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I often have lots of dialog boxes open (e.g. paragraph/
> character designer, marker window), and I do not notice
> anything special. Specifically jumping around with the
> insertion mark or selecting text is fast.
>
> I have FM 8.0p277, 1 GB RAM, Windows 2000 Professional.
>
> Therefore I do not think that dialog boxes in general
> cause problems.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> > Art Campbell
> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:20 PM
> > To: Avraham Makeler
> > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC
> >
> > The designer boxes may have caused the problem, but you're
> > going to run into
> > more problems with only 1G of RAM. That's a very minimal
> > amount... 2G or
> > more is recommended if you work with long documents or want
> > to have another
> > RAM-hungry application running at the same time (like photoshop).
> >
> > ARt
> >
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> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Avraham Makeler
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Stephen you're a genius! I was l always working with the
> > Designer dial
> > > boxes
> > > open (definitely more professional that way... - like
> > having side panels
> > > open in Vis Studio, and HTML editors etc.), so I closed
> > them, and la voila!
> > > that did the trick!
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > - avi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Stephen O'Brien
> >  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Same thing happens to me with FM 8..when the Hypertext
> > dialog box is
> > > > open...
> > > >
> > > > Have a nice day!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >> FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor
> > tasks like
> > > >> jumping
> > > >> the cursor from one word to another or selecting text.
> > My PC is a 2.8
> > > GHz
> > > >> Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and
> > great for
> > > >> everything else.
> > > >>
> > > >> FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC.
> > > >>
> > > >> Has anybody else noticed this about FM8?
> > > >>
> > > >> Is there something I can to do to speed things up? Like
> > disable some
> > > mode
> > > >> or
> > > >> something?
> > > >>
> > > >> TIA
> > > >>
> > > >> - avi
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RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Syed.Hosain]

Richard Combs wrote:
> Your explanation makes sense, and suggests that the degree of slowdown
will depend on how many different pgf and char tags the cursor moves
through. There's a lot of information displayed in the Designer dialogs,
and if it changes every few characters or lines... 

I *think* (not sure though) that FM seems to check *every* time the
arrow key is pressed, regardless of whether there is an actual char tag
that it moves through. So, it slows down even when simply moving along
the same paragraph for example.

> But what I don't understand is why so many Framers are saying they
work with some or all of the Designer dialogs open. Why? Are you all
creating new formats on the fly, continually as you write??

Not really. It is mostly for convenience in my case. Which is why I am
going to try to run without them for a while! :)

Z
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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Alan...

1) It does seem a bit slower than FM8 (which was slower than FM7.x, and 
so on), but not bad at all.
2) As far as I know, all of the keyboard functionality is still available.
3) Saves to FM8 (document) and FM7 (MIF)
4) I'm not sure what you mean about the per license cost. In order to 
deploy a Help system using AIR, you'll need to invest in a digital 
certificate ($200 to $300 USD), but that's all. The AIR technology is 
open source and freely available (you can download the AIR and Flex SDKs 
and build your apps).
5) Yes!
6) Not sure .. ?

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Alan Litchfield wrote:
> Looks good. The demo is well worth the time.
>
> Couple of observations:
> 1. It seems to be fairly slow in response. Maybe that was just the  
> computer being used, but one would think that a demo would be created  
> to minimise those kinds of things. Even Photoshop seemed quite fast by  
> comparison. Is it sluggish?
> 2. It seems very clicky, I am hoping the keyboard commands have not  
> been lost or changed excessively. One of the min reasons I use FM is  
> through having the ability to virtually leave the mouse alone while  
> chunking through a 600-odd page book.
> 3. There was no mention of backwards compatibility. Will it save to  
> V7.*?
> 4. Interesting to see the integration with Adobe AIR. Do many people  
> use it - it is very expensive at some NZD7 per license?
> 5. The new pdf review workflow looks seriously cool!
> 6. The TechCom suite looks thoroughly integrated. Will having FM on  
> its own lose some of those features, like the integration with Acrobat  
> and Photoshop? Already having both negates the value of buying the  
> suite you see.
>
> Alan
>
> --
> Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
>
>
>
>
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[Scott Prentice]

Hi Alan...

1) It does seem a bit slower than FM8 (which was slower than FM7.x, and 
so on), but not bad at all.
2) As far as I know, all of the keyboard functionality is still available.
3) Saves to FM8 (document) and FM7 (MIF)
4) I'm not sure what you mean about the per license cost. In order to 
deploy a Help system using AIR, you'll need to invest in a digital 
certificate ($200 to $300 USD), but that's all. The AIR technology is 
open source and freely available (you can download the AIR and Flex SDKs 
and build your apps).
5) Yes!
6) Not sure .. ?

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Alan Litchfield wrote:
> Looks good. The demo is well worth the time.
>
> Couple of observations:
> 1. It seems to be fairly slow in response. Maybe that was just the  
> computer being used, but one would think that a demo would be created  
> to minimise those kinds of things. Even Photoshop seemed quite fast by  
> comparison. Is it sluggish?
> 2. It seems very clicky, I am hoping the keyboard commands have not  
> been lost or changed excessively. One of the min reasons I use FM is  
> through having the ability to virtually leave the mouse alone while  
> chunking through a 600-odd page book.
> 3. There was no mention of backwards compatibility. Will it save to  
> V7.*?
> 4. Interesting to see the integration with Adobe AIR. Do many people  
> use it - it is very expensive at some NZD7 per license?
> 5. The new pdf review workflow looks seriously cool!
> 6. The TechCom suite looks thoroughly integrated. Will having FM on  
> its own lose some of those features, like the integration with Acrobat  
> and Photoshop? Already having both negates the value of buying the  
> suite you see.
>
> Alan
>
> --
> Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>   

Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2:
http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/
It looks nice.

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


Carrie Baker wrote:
> I looked at their announcement.
> What do you think they mean by
> "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a
> completely redesigned user experience."
>
> Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
> This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.
>
> _
> Message: 38
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
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> Hi FrameUsers
> It's here:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
> http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
>
> Cheers
> --
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Within Adobe Acrobat Reader, is FrameMaker markup (e.g., Track Text) searchable?

[Art Campbell]

Yes it is, assuming you have the related conditional text setting turned ON.

Art Campbell
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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote:

> Hi all,
> Is FrameMaker Track Text searchable within Adobe Reader (or some
> equivalent)?
>
> (Or even within Acrobat?)
>
> If not, is there any type of markup that is automatically applied when
> editing within FM, that is transfered to the PDF, and is searchable within
> Adobe Reader (or some equivalent)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - avi
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FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Combs, Richard]

Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote:

> My results *definitely* confirmed that the cursor movement with the
> arrows is MUCH faster with the designer boxes not visible. Since I
have
> a fast computer, I had only seen a bit of sluggishness in the past (I
> keep the Paragraph, Character and Table designer boxes open), but did
> not bother to track it down. However, the difference is sufficiently
> dramatic that I now plan to work with the designer dialog boxes
closed!
> Not my preferred mode, fwiw, so I hope Adobe improves this issue.
> 
> I attribute this sluggishness to the continuous "check and show the
> paragraph and character information" in the designer dialog boxes
while
> the cursor is being moved around with the arrow keys - something needs
> to be speeded up here for sure!

Your explanation makes sense, and suggests that the degree of slowdown
will depend on how many different pgf and char tags the cursor moves
through. There's a lot of information displayed in the Designer dialogs,
and if it changes every few characters or lines... 

But what I don't understand is why so many Framers are saying they work
with some or all of the Designer dialogs open. Why? Are you all creating
new formats on the fly, continually as you write?? 

I don't design formats while authoring docs. So, with rare and brief
exceptions, the only time I have the Designer dialogs open is when I'm
creating or modifying a template. 

Whatever. The new interface in FM9 will let you set up your workspace
umpteen different ways and let you switch among them as you please. 

I'll be spending most of my time in Authoring mode, though. 

Richard


Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Alan Litchfield]

Looks good. The demo is well worth the time.

Couple of observations:
1. It seems to be fairly slow in response. Maybe that was just the  
computer being used, but one would think that a demo would be created  
to minimise those kinds of things. Even Photoshop seemed quite fast by  
comparison. Is it sluggish?
2. It seems very clicky, I am hoping the keyboard commands have not  
been lost or changed excessively. One of the min reasons I use FM is  
through having the ability to virtually leave the mouse alone while  
chunking through a 600-odd page book.
3. There was no mention of backwards compatibility. Will it save to  
V7.*?
4. Interesting to see the integration with Adobe AIR. Do many people  
use it - it is very expensive at some NZD7 per license?
5. The new pdf review workflow looks seriously cool!
6. The TechCom suite looks thoroughly integrated. Will having FM on  
its own lose some of those features, like the integration with Acrobat  
and Photoshop? Already having both negates the value of buying the  
suite you see.

Alan

--
Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS
AlphaByte
PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz




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FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Mike Wickham]

I have the same slow cursor speed with FrameMaker 8.0p277 on Windows XP Pro 
and on Vista.

1. If the Paragraph Designer is the only palette open, it takes 8 seconds to
scroll across a 50-character column using the right-arrow key.

2. If the Character Designer is the only palette open, it takes 4 seconds to
scroll.

3. If any of the other palettes are open alone, it takes only 2-seconds to 
scroll, which is about what I expect.

Opening palettes in combination slows the scroll rate further. There are six 
palettes that I like to have open: the Paragraph Designer,
Character Designer, and Table Designer, and  the Paragraph Catalog,
Character Catalog, and Tool palette. I've discovered that two of these are
causing the issue. Here are some notes:

1. If all six palettes are open, it takes about 13 seconds to scroll across
a 50-character column by holding down the right arrow key. Yikes! Too slow!

2. If I then close the Paragraph Designer, it only takes about 5 seconds to
scroll across the column.

3. If I also close the Character Designer, it drops to around 2 seconds.
That's about as it should be.

4. Closing any or all of the remaining palettes also results in a 2-second
normal scroll rate.

So the slowness problem appears to be linked to having  the Paragraph
Designer and Character Designer palettes. Hopefully, this issue will be 
fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :)

Mike Wickham


- Original Message - 
From: "Avraham Makeler" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC


I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that clobbers
my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in my
arch. as compared to some other machine.

Report FrameMaker 9 plugin compatibilities here

[Mike Wickham]

A question that comes up with each new FrameMaker release is, "are my old 
plugins still compatible?" So I thought I'd start a thread where we can 
report plugins that do or don't work with FrameMaker 9. The thread would be 
especially invaluable if plugin developers would chime in about their own 
company's plugins.

Mike Wickham 

Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Adobe officially announced FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication Suite 2
today:

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200901/012009adobeTe
chCom2.html

I was one of the beta-testers and this product is a true "major" release.
The most significant upgrade I've seen in well over 10 years. New product
features will give dramatic ROI and help the product to "pay for itself"
very quickly.

_ 

Maxwell  Hoffmann
Director, Document Globalization Practice
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Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Adobe officially announced FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication Suite 2
today:

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200901/012009adobeTe
chCom2.html

I was one of the beta-testers and this product is a true "major" release.
The most significant upgrade I've seen in well over 10 years. New product
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very quickly.

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Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Mike Wickham]

> But what I don't understand is why so many Framers are saying they work
> with some or all of the Designer dialogs open. Why? Are you all creating
> new formats on the fly, continually as you write??

Mostly it's just for convenience. My templates are stable, so I don't change 
or create formats often, but I have a three-monitor setup, so I like to have 
the main FrameMaker window open on one monitor, holding a two-page spread. 
The palettes are open on an adjacent monitor, where they never overlap the 
text, and are always ready when I need them-- without need for opening or 
positioning. I've been using the Leximation RestoreWindows plugin to open 
the palettes automatically when a document opens.

Mike Wickham 


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FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

This pretty much sums up what I saw with some testing too, but I did not
go to the level of detail that you have done here!

I think that the constant "refresh" of information inside the Para and
Char Designer boxes is what causes the slowdown.

Thanks for the detailed information, Mike!

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:52 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

I have the same slow cursor speed with FrameMaker 8.0p277 on Windows XP
Pro and on Vista.

1. If the Paragraph Designer is the only palette open, it takes 8
seconds to scroll across a 50-character column using the right-arrow
key.

2. If the Character Designer is the only palette open, it takes 4
seconds to scroll.

3. If any of the other palettes are open alone, it takes only 2-seconds
to scroll, which is about what I expect.

Opening palettes in combination slows the scroll rate further. There are
six palettes that I like to have open: the Paragraph Designer, Character
Designer, and Table Designer, and  the Paragraph Catalog, Character
Catalog, and Tool palette. I've discovered that two of these are causing
the issue. Here are some notes:

1. If all six palettes are open, it takes about 13 seconds to scroll
across a 50-character column by holding down the right arrow key. Yikes!
Too slow!

2. If I then close the Paragraph Designer, it only takes about 5 seconds
to scroll across the column.

3. If I also close the Character Designer, it drops to around 2 seconds.
That's about as it should be.

4. Closing any or all of the remaining palettes also results in a
2-second normal scroll rate.

So the slowness problem appears to be linked to having  the Paragraph
Designer and Character Designer palettes. Hopefully, this issue will be
fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :)

Mike Wickham


- Original Message - 
From: "Avraham Makeler" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC


I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that
clobbers
my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in
my
arch. as compared to some other machine.



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Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Avraham Makeler]

maybe there is some reverse psychology going on here:
maybe they are trying to attract new users. Nobody likes to feel they are at
the bottom of the class, which is what you are when you start out using a
well-established app - so best to try something that is new to all.

So the idea is to revolutionize the app so much so that now everybody becomes
bottom of the class, and so now it will attract new users...

:-)


avi



On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Carrie Baker  wrote:

> I looked at their announcement.
> What do you think they mean by
> "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a
> completely redesigned user experience."
>
> Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
> This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.
>
> _
> Message: 38
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
> From: "Yves Barbion" 
> Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Hi FrameUsers
> It's here:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
> http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
>
> Cheers
> --
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How can I search for bold text and change it to a character style?

[Avraham Makeler]

Hi all,


How can I search for bold text (this, I know how to do)

and change it to a character style (this, not)

?

TIA

avi

Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)]

It will be a learning curve for experienced users. I've been working with
this for a while now and I can tell you that it takes a while to get used to
it. However, much like working with other tools, it's now a lot easier to
configure the system for what I'm doing, rather than for what the
application feels like presenting to me. It's been a long time coming, but
it feels more like an Adobe tool. If you use things like Photoshop, or
Acrobat, or any other major Adobe tool, you have a way to configure the
interface to do what you want, rather than what the dev team decided.

While the application ends up being pretty easy to work with, you will need
to put time into learning. Think of a new car... If you had a car that was
set up with all kinds of preset radio stations (and only AM) and with a
cassette player in it, you think that what you have does all you need.
However, when you get a new car and it has satellite radio and a built in
MP3 player, you need to learn how to work the new settings. If the dash is
digital and has several screens, you also need to learn not only the new
tools, but the new interface. Add to that new features in the car and it can
seem daunting. However, once you get the new car on the open road and you
start to deal with either the daily commute, or you deal with long trips to
the cottage, to the inlawa, or to the beach, you start to realize just how
nice the new comforts are. To that end, it's worth the upgrade, and it's
worth the extra work to learn the new approaches to working.

Imagine then a FrameMaker world where you can optimize what you do for
template design, for daily authoring, for a review process, for structured
work, for book publishing, for editing, and for just about any 'normal' task
you normally perform as part of your job. Imagine setting up the designers
and toolbars where you want them for one environment, and then being able to
toggle them to another. Forget about the day-to-day, hour-by-hour manual
tasks that you perform and focus on the job. I can't imagine the amount of
time I spend moving dialogs from one part of my screen to another simply to
get different real estate to be the 'focus' of what I'm doing. Two monitors
help, but I'm still trapped in a world of drag-and-drop modifications to do
one task or another.

So, the answer to the question of 'Does anyone know if this is a "good
thing"' is a "yes" but a qualified one. It's a good thing IF you are willing
to take the time to work through the learning curve. Once that's done
though, then it's a much smoother ride and, like the new car, can make the
small bumps seem smoother, the long trips a bit less tiring, and ultimately
make the destination the focus point, not the individual issues that come up
along the way.

I hope that helps out.

Bernard



Bernard Aschwanden
President
Publishing Smarter

www.publishingsmarter.com 



-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carrie Baker
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:38 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

I looked at their announcement.
What do you think they mean by
"New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a
completely redesigned user experience."

Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.

_
Message: 38
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
From: "Yves Barbion" 
Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi FrameUsers
It's here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/

Cheers
--
Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
www.scripto.nu  ? skype: yves.barbion  ? T: +32 494 12 01 89
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RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Combs, Richard]

syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:
 
> My results *definitely* confirmed that the cursor movement with the
> arrows is MUCH faster with the designer boxes not visible. Since I
have
> a fast computer, I had only seen a bit of sluggishness in the past (I
> keep the Paragraph, Character and Table designer boxes open), but did
> not bother to track it down. However, the difference is sufficiently
> dramatic that I now plan to work with the designer dialog boxes
closed!
> Not my preferred mode, fwiw, so I hope Adobe improves this issue.
> 
> I attribute this sluggishness to the continuous "check and show the
> paragraph and character information" in the designer dialog boxes
while
> the cursor is being moved around with the arrow keys - something needs
> to be speeded up here for sure!

Your explanation makes sense, and suggests that the degree of slowdown
will depend on how many different pgf and char tags the cursor moves
through. There's a lot of information displayed in the Designer dialogs,
and if it changes every few characters or lines... 

But what I don't understand is why so many Framers are saying they work
with some or all of the Designer dialogs open. Why? Are you all creating
new formats on the fly, continually as you write?? 

I don't design formats while authoring docs. So, with rare and brief
exceptions, the only time I have the Designer dialogs open is when I'm
creating or modifying a template. 

Whatever. The new interface in FM9 will let you set up your workspace
umpteen different ways and let you switch among them as you please. 

I'll be spending most of my time in Authoring mode, though. 

Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
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RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Kelly McDaniel]

It may be good news that FrameMaker v9 includes the para, char, and
other design windows as floating pallets. In my tests on v9, there was
no discernable difference when the pallets were displayed or closed. The
pallets can be minimized at two levels.

To recap:  I think we are pretty well resolved that the issue with
FrameMaker 8 is caused by mouse gestures that must be registered in the
open dialog windows...pretty code intensive/processor intensive.

I believe this issue is resolved with FM v9...regards, Kelly.

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
syed.hos...@aeris.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:19 PM
To: Mike Wickham; Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

This pretty much sums up what I saw with some testing too, but I did not
go to the level of detail that you have done here!

I think that the constant "refresh" of information inside the Para and
Char Designer boxes is what causes the slowdown.

Thanks for the detailed information, Mike!

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:52 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

I have the same slow cursor speed with FrameMaker 8.0p277 on Windows XP
Pro and on Vista.

1. If the Paragraph Designer is the only palette open, it takes 8
seconds to scroll across a 50-character column using the right-arrow
key.

2. If the Character Designer is the only palette open, it takes 4
seconds to scroll.

3. If any of the other palettes are open alone, it takes only 2-seconds
to scroll, which is about what I expect.

Opening palettes in combination slows the scroll rate further. There are
six palettes that I like to have open: the Paragraph Designer, Character
Designer, and Table Designer, and  the Paragraph Catalog, Character
Catalog, and Tool palette. I've discovered that two of these are causing
the issue. Here are some notes:

1. If all six palettes are open, it takes about 13 seconds to scroll
across a 50-character column by holding down the right arrow key. Yikes!
Too slow!

2. If I then close the Paragraph Designer, it only takes about 5 seconds
to scroll across the column.

3. If I also close the Character Designer, it drops to around 2 seconds.
That's about as it should be.

4. Closing any or all of the remaining palettes also results in a
2-second normal scroll rate.

So the slowness problem appears to be linked to having  the Paragraph
Designer and Character Designer palettes. Hopefully, this issue will be
fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :)

Mike Wickham


- Original Message - 
From: "Avraham Makeler" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC


I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that
clobbers
my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in
my
arch. as compared to some other machine.



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Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Carrie Baker]

I looked at their announcement.
What do you think they mean by
"New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a
completely redesigned user experience."

Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.

_
Message: 38
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
From: "Yves Barbion" 
Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi FrameUsers
It's here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/

Cheers
--
Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
www.scripto.nu  ? skype: yves.barbion  ? T: +32 494 12 01 89
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ANN: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new Adobe eLearning Suite

[Karen L. Zorn]

I'm the President of the STC Phoenix chapter, and I couldn't be happier. 
We booked RJ to be our presenter for our Tuesday, February 2009 virtual 
meeting, so there's great timing for this new release. You can read more 
about the presentation at: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7qdy36. *More 
information will follow, so save the link! And, the price is right: 
$10/connection!

Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

President, STC Phoenix

RJ Jacquez wrote:
> *** I work for Adobe Systems, Inc. ***
>
>
>
> Hi All, I'm extremely excited to share with you that today we have announced 
> the availability of two major Adobe Suites, the new Adobe eLearning 
> Suite and the second version 
> of the Technical Communication 
> Suite, version 2.
>
> Furthermore, we are also announcing the availability of Adobe Captivate 
> 4, FrameMaker 
> 9 and RoboHelp 
> 8 and I will provide more 
> information on these individual products in upcoming blog posts.
>
> Over the next few days, I will be blogging actively on what's new in all of 
> these products, but for now, here are some links to various recordings that I 
> have put together to help our customers learn what's new and exciting in all 
> of these new releases:
>
> Introducing the Adobe eLearning 
> Suite
>
> What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication 
> 2
>
> What's New in Adobe Captivate 4
>
> Sincerely,
>
> RJ J?cquez
> Senior Product Evangelist
> Adobe Technical Communication Suite
> Adobe eLearning Solutions
> http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez
>
>
>   

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

> I often have lots of dialog boxes open (e.g. paragraph/character
designer, marker window), and I do not notice anything special.
Specifically jumping around with the
insertion mark or selecting text is fast.

> I have FM 8.0p277, 1 GB RAM, Windows 2000 Professional.

> Therefore I do not think that dialog boxes in general cause problems.

Hmmm ... I would suggest doing some testing to see if you see what I
just saw ... I decided to try to duplicate what I was reading here. I
have a fast Windows laptop and tested moving around a document with the
arrow keys with, and without, the designer boxes open.

Running FrameMaker 8, latest patch, on (recently loaded) Vista 32bit on
a Dell Latitude 820 laptop, with a 2.16GHz Core Duo proc, 2GB of memory,
fast 7200rpm drive.

My results *definitely* confirmed that the cursor movement with the
arrows is MUCH faster with the designer boxes not visible. Since I have
a fast computer, I had only seen a bit of sluggishness in the past (I
keep the Paragraph, Character and Table designer boxes open), but did
not bother to track it down. However, the difference is sufficiently
dramatic that I now plan to work with the designer dialog boxes closed!
Not my preferred mode, fwiw, so I hope Adobe improves this issue.

I attribute this sluggishness to the continuous "check and show the
paragraph and character information" in the designer dialog boxes while
the cursor is being moved around with the arrow keys - something needs
to be speeded up here for sure!

Thanks for this thread, folks!

Z

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Syed.Hosain]

This pretty much sums up what I saw with some testing too, but I did not
go to the level of detail that you have done here!

I think that the constant "refresh" of information inside the Para and
Char Designer boxes is what causes the slowdown.

Thanks for the detailed information, Mike!

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:52 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

I have the same slow cursor speed with FrameMaker 8.0p277 on Windows XP
Pro and on Vista.

1. If the Paragraph Designer is the only palette open, it takes 8
seconds to scroll across a 50-character column using the right-arrow
key.

2. If the Character Designer is the only palette open, it takes 4
seconds to scroll.

3. If any of the other palettes are open alone, it takes only 2-seconds
to scroll, which is about what I expect.

Opening palettes in combination slows the scroll rate further. There are
six palettes that I like to have open: the Paragraph Designer, Character
Designer, and Table Designer, and  the Paragraph Catalog, Character
Catalog, and Tool palette. I've discovered that two of these are causing
the issue. Here are some notes:

1. If all six palettes are open, it takes about 13 seconds to scroll
across a 50-character column by holding down the right arrow key. Yikes!
Too slow!

2. If I then close the Paragraph Designer, it only takes about 5 seconds
to scroll across the column.

3. If I also close the Character Designer, it drops to around 2 seconds.
That's about as it should be.

4. Closing any or all of the remaining palettes also results in a
2-second normal scroll rate.

So the slowness problem appears to be linked to having  the Paragraph
Designer and Character Designer palettes. Hopefully, this issue will be
fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :)

Mike Wickham


- Original Message - 
From: "Avraham Makeler" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC


I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that
clobbers
my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in
my
arch. as compared to some other machine.



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Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Dave Reynolds]

Thanks for the detailed reply, Mike.  This thread has confirmed the 
behaviour I noticed last year when we upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 8.  
In fact, I posted to the list about it in September, but I think I only 
got one reply.  This is what I found last year:

**
Hi

I've noticed at times that moving the cursor around in a Frame 8 file 
can be rather sluggish.  This is when I'm using the arrow key to move 
the cursor along a line of text.  I've also noticed that using the 
shift+arrow keys to select text can be really slow as well.  However, at 
other times the cursor moves at what I consider to be a normal speed.
The other day I think I found out why.  The movement of the cursor slows 
right down when I have Paragraph Designer open.  I did a timed test on a 
random line of text.  With PD closed, it took 4 seconds to run the 
cursor from one end of the line to the other, but with PD open it took 
14 seconds.  If I selected the line using Shift+arrow, the times were 
about the same.  I repeated the test with PD closed and Character 
Designer open, but this time it took about 5 seconds.

I've duplicated the test in Frame 6, and both PD and CD have no 
noticeable effect on the speed of the cursor movement.

Has anyone else noticed this behaviour?  It's not a big problem, just a 
nuisance.

I'm on Frame 8.0p277 and Win XP.  Pentium 4 dual core 3GHz with 1GB RAM.
***

It's almost as if the Designer is scanning the paragraph for information 
each time the cursor is moved.  For example, if I open PD and select the 
Default Font Tab, put the cursor in a row of body text and press the 
right arrow to move the cursor along the line of text, I notice that the 
word "Black" in the Color field in PD flashes in time with the movement 
of the cursor.  Does this mean that PD is checking the font colour and 
redisplaying it each time the cursor moves?

Regards

Dave


Mike Wickham wrote, on 21/01/2009 8:52 a.m.:
> I have the same slow cursor speed with FrameMaker 8.0p277 on Windows XP Pro 
> and on Vista.
>
> 1. If the Paragraph Designer is the only palette open, it takes 8 seconds to
> scroll across a 50-character column using the right-arrow key.
>
> 2. If the Character Designer is the only palette open, it takes 4 seconds to
> scroll.
>
> 3. If any of the other palettes are open alone, it takes only 2-seconds to 
> scroll, which is about what I expect.
>
> Opening palettes in combination slows the scroll rate further. There are six 
> palettes that I like to have open: the Paragraph Designer,
> Character Designer, and Table Designer, and  the Paragraph Catalog,
> Character Catalog, and Tool palette. I've discovered that two of these are
> causing the issue. Here are some notes:
>
> 1. If all six palettes are open, it takes about 13 seconds to scroll across
> a 50-character column by holding down the right arrow key. Yikes! Too slow!
>
> 2. If I then close the Paragraph Designer, it only takes about 5 seconds to
> scroll across the column.
>
> 3. If I also close the Character Designer, it drops to around 2 seconds.
> That's about as it should be.
>
> 4. Closing any or all of the remaining palettes also results in a 2-second
> normal scroll rate.
>
> So the slowness problem appears to be linked to having  the Paragraph
> Designer and Character Designer palettes. Hopefully, this issue will be 
> fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :)
>
> Mike Wickham
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Avraham Makeler" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM
> Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC
>
>
> I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that clobbers
> my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
> Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in my
> arch. as compared to some other machine.
>
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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Combs, Richard]

RJ Jacquez wrote:

> What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication
> 2

Excellent overview and demo! The changes in TCS 2 go way beyond the
improvements to FM and RH with which I was familiar. Everyone on this
list should spend the 40 minutes or so to watch the whole thing (or at
least the 10 or so to watch the overview sans demo).

Thank you very much, RJ.

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Re: Report FrameMaker 9 plugin compatibilities here

[Scott Prentice]

In general, plugins will be upward compatible .. and many will work just 
fine in FM9. Give it a try and see how it goes.  :)

FM9 does introduce a twist that may cause hiccups for some plugins that 
work with structured applications .. the default location for the 
structapps.fm file is now in the "user" Application Data area 
(C:\Documents and Settings\\Application 
Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\9\structapps.fm).

We (Leximation) have tested most of our plugins with FM9 and they seem 
to work fine. We do plan to officially update all of them for FM9 
(eventually). DITA-FMx will be our first plugin to update for FM9, and 
hope to have a beta of DITA-FMx 1.1 for FM9 available within a month.

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Mike Wickham wrote:
> A question that comes up with each new FrameMaker release is, "are my old 
> plugins still compatible?" So I thought I'd start a thread where we can 
> report plugins that do or don't work with FrameMaker 9. The thread would be 
> especially invaluable if plugin developers would chime in about their own 
> company's plugins.
>
> Mike Wickham 
>
>
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Report FrameMaker 9 plugin compatibilities here

[Scott Prentice]

In general, plugins will be upward compatible .. and many will work just 
fine in FM9. Give it a try and see how it goes.  :)

FM9 does introduce a twist that may cause hiccups for some plugins that 
work with structured applications .. the default location for the 
structapps.fm file is now in the "user" Application Data area 
(C:\Documents and Settings\\Application 
Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\9\structapps.fm).

We (Leximation) have tested most of our plugins with FM9 and they seem 
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(eventually). DITA-FMx will be our first plugin to update for FM9, and 
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Cheers,

...scott

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Mike Wickham wrote:
> A question that comes up with each new FrameMaker release is, "are my old 
> plugins still compatible?" So I thought I'd start a thread where we can 
> report plugins that do or don't work with FrameMaker 9. The thread would be 
> especially invaluable if plugin developers would chime in about their own 
> company's plugins.
>
> Mike Wickham 
>
>
>   

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Mike Wickham]

I have the same slow cursor speed with FrameMaker 8.0p277 on Windows XP Pro 
and on Vista.

1. If the Paragraph Designer is the only palette open, it takes 8 seconds to
scroll across a 50-character column using the right-arrow key.

2. If the Character Designer is the only palette open, it takes 4 seconds to
scroll.

3. If any of the other palettes are open alone, it takes only 2-seconds to 
scroll, which is about what I expect.

Opening palettes in combination slows the scroll rate further. There are six 
palettes that I like to have open: the Paragraph Designer,
Character Designer, and Table Designer, and  the Paragraph Catalog,
Character Catalog, and Tool palette. I've discovered that two of these are
causing the issue. Here are some notes:

1. If all six palettes are open, it takes about 13 seconds to scroll across
a 50-character column by holding down the right arrow key. Yikes! Too slow!

2. If I then close the Paragraph Designer, it only takes about 5 seconds to
scroll across the column.

3. If I also close the Character Designer, it drops to around 2 seconds.
That's about as it should be.

4. Closing any or all of the remaining palettes also results in a 2-second
normal scroll rate.

So the slowness problem appears to be linked to having  the Paragraph
Designer and Character Designer palettes. Hopefully, this issue will be 
fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :)

Mike Wickham


- Original Message - 
From: "Avraham Makeler" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC


I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that clobbers
my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in my
arch. as compared to some other machine.



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[Mike Wickham]

A question that comes up with each new FrameMaker release is, "are my old 
plugins still compatible?" So I thought I'd start a thread where we can 
report plugins that do or don't work with FrameMaker 9. The thread would be 
especially invaluable if plugin developers would chime in about their own 
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Re: ANN: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new Adobe eLearning Suite

[Karen L. Zorn]

I'm the President of the STC Phoenix chapter, and I couldn't be happier. 
We booked RJ to be our presenter for our Tuesday, February 2009 virtual 
meeting, so there's great timing for this new release. You can read more 
about the presentation at: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7qdy36. *More 
information will follow, so save the link! And, the price is right: 
$10/connection!


Karen L. Zorn
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President, STC Phoenix

RJ Jacquez wrote:

*** I work for Adobe Systems, Inc. ***



Hi All, I'm extremely excited to share with you that today we have announced the 
availability of two major Adobe Suites, the new Adobe eLearning 
Suite and the second version of the 
Technical Communication Suite, 
version 2.

Furthermore, we are also announcing the availability of Adobe Captivate 
4, FrameMaker 
9 and RoboHelp 
8 and I will provide more information on these 
individual products in upcoming blog posts.

Over the next few days, I will be blogging actively on what's new in all of 
these products, but for now, here are some links to various recordings that I 
have put together to help our customers learn what's new and exciting in all of 
these new releases:

Introducing the Adobe eLearning 
Suite

What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication 
2

What's New in Adobe Captivate 4

Sincerely,

RJ Jácquez
Senior Product Evangelist
Adobe Technical Communication Suite
Adobe eLearning Solutions
http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez


  
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RE: Within Adobe Acrobat Reader, is FrameMaker markup (e.g., Track Text) searchable?

[Fred Ridder]

Responding to Avi Makeler, Art Campbell wrote:> Yes it is, assuming you have 
the related conditional text setting turned ON.
But I think this is the correct answer to a different question than what 
Avi was asking. The answer is correct in the sense that any text that 
appears in the PDF (i.e. by virtue of the condition being set to show)
will be searchable *as text*.  But it seems clear that Avi was asking 
whether its possible to find arbitrary content by its FrameMaker markup. 
As far as I know, that is not possible because Acrobat's search function
is strictly text-based (at least as of Acrobat 7.0 Pro, which is still the 
standard version at my current employer). As far as I know, FrameMaker's
condition markup is only preserved as character appearance (e.g. indicator
colors) in PDF, and I knw I know of no way to have Acrobat search for
content based on appearance rather than the presence of a specific 
text string.
 
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RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Syed.Hosain]

> I often have lots of dialog boxes open (e.g. paragraph/character
designer, marker window), and I do not notice anything special.
Specifically jumping around with the
insertion mark or selecting text is fast.

> I have FM 8.0p277, 1 GB RAM, Windows 2000 Professional.

> Therefore I do not think that dialog boxes in general cause problems.

Hmmm ... I would suggest doing some testing to see if you see what I
just saw ... I decided to try to duplicate what I was reading here. I
have a fast Windows laptop and tested moving around a document with the
arrow keys with, and without, the designer boxes open.

Running FrameMaker 8, latest patch, on (recently loaded) Vista 32bit on
a Dell Latitude 820 laptop, with a 2.16GHz Core Duo proc, 2GB of memory,
fast 7200rpm drive.

My results *definitely* confirmed that the cursor movement with the
arrows is MUCH faster with the designer boxes not visible. Since I have
a fast computer, I had only seen a bit of sluggishness in the past (I
keep the Paragraph, Character and Table designer boxes open), but did
not bother to track it down. However, the difference is sufficiently
dramatic that I now plan to work with the designer dialog boxes closed!
Not my preferred mode, fwiw, so I hope Adobe improves this issue.

I attribute this sluggishness to the continuous "check and show the
paragraph and character information" in the designer dialog boxes while
the cursor is being moved around with the arrow keys - something needs
to be speeded up here for sure!

Thanks for this thread, folks!

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TOOL: Very inexpensive alternative to Illustrator etc.

[Stuart Rogers]

If you have a requirement to create illustrations but don't want to 
shell out megabucks for the big name programs, take a look at

http://site.xara.com/offers/xaraxtreme/

I've been using Xara for several years, and find it to be a fantastic 
value (even having paid full price).  The offer above is for the 
previous version, for only $19, available till the end of the month. 
You won't believe what this product can do.

(No commercial interest in the company, just a very satisfied user.)

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Re: Within Adobe Acrobat Reader, is FrameMaker markup (e.g., Track Text) searchable?

[Art Campbell]

Yes it is, assuming you have the related conditional text setting turned ON.

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> Hi all,
> Is FrameMaker Track Text searchable within Adobe Reader (or some
> equivalent)?
>
> (Or even within Acrobat?)
>
> If not, is there any type of markup that is automatically applied when
> editing within FM, that is transfered to the PDF, and is searchable within
> Adobe Reader (or some equivalent)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - avi
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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Combs, Richard]

RJ Jacquez wrote:
 
> What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication
> 2

Excellent overview and demo! The changes in TCS 2 go way beyond the
improvements to FM and RH with which I was familiar. Everyone on this
list should spend the 40 minutes or so to watch the whole thing (or at
least the 10 or so to watch the overview sans demo).

Thank you very much, RJ.

Richard


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How can I search for bold text and change it to a character style?

[Fred Ridder]

Responding to Avi's question, Art Campbell wrote:

> Create a character style with the correct attributes.
> Apply it to something.
> Copy Special > Character Style.
> Find, specifying the bold text, and replace by pasting.

Note that the Copy Special is Character *Format* rather than 
Character *Style*, and that's actually an important distinction.
When you use Copy Special, FrameMaker copies all of the current
selections font format characteristics, including the explicit font 
and size settings as well as the character tag that you really 
want to propagate. If you copy the format from a chunk of 
body text (for example, 11 pt TNR bold with the Bold character
tag applied) and then paste onto a selection in a heading (say
14 pt Helvetica non-bold), you will get a chunk of 11 pt TNR 
in the middle of that heading.

-Fred Ridder

How can I search for bold text and change it to a character style?

[Art Campbell]

Create a character style with the correct attributes.
Apply it to something.
Copy Special > Character Style.
Find, specifying the bold text, and replace by pasting.

Art

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> Hi all,
>
>
> How can I search for bold text (this, I know how to do)
>
> and change it to a character style (this, not)
>
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>
> TIA
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RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)]

It will be a learning curve for experienced users. I've been working with
this for a while now and I can tell you that it takes a while to get used to
it. However, much like working with other tools, it's now a lot easier to
configure the system for what I'm doing, rather than for what the
application feels like presenting to me. It's been a long time coming, but
it feels more like an Adobe tool. If you use things like Photoshop, or
Acrobat, or any other major Adobe tool, you have a way to configure the
interface to do what you want, rather than what the dev team decided.

While the application ends up being pretty easy to work with, you will need
to put time into learning. Think of a new car... If you had a car that was
set up with all kinds of preset radio stations (and only AM) and with a
cassette player in it, you think that what you have does all you need.
However, when you get a new car and it has satellite radio and a built in
MP3 player, you need to learn how to work the new settings. If the dash is
digital and has several screens, you also need to learn not only the new
tools, but the new interface. Add to that new features in the car and it can
seem daunting. However, once you get the new car on the open road and you
start to deal with either the daily commute, or you deal with long trips to
the cottage, to the inlawa, or to the beach, you start to realize just how
nice the new comforts are. To that end, it's worth the upgrade, and it's
worth the extra work to learn the new approaches to working.

Imagine then a FrameMaker world where you can optimize what you do for
template design, for daily authoring, for a review process, for structured
work, for book publishing, for editing, and for just about any 'normal' task
you normally perform as part of your job. Imagine setting up the designers
and toolbars where you want them for one environment, and then being able to
toggle them to another. Forget about the day-to-day, hour-by-hour manual
tasks that you perform and focus on the job. I can't imagine the amount of
time I spend moving dialogs from one part of my screen to another simply to
get different real estate to be the 'focus' of what I'm doing. Two monitors
help, but I'm still trapped in a world of drag-and-drop modifications to do
one task or another.

So, the answer to the question of 'Does anyone know if this is a "good
thing"' is a "yes" but a qualified one. It's a good thing IF you are willing
to take the time to work through the learning curve. Once that's done
though, then it's a much smoother ride and, like the new car, can make the
small bumps seem smoother, the long trips a bit less tiring, and ultimately
make the destination the focus point, not the individual issues that come up
along the way.

I hope that helps out.

Bernard



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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carrie Baker
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:38 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

I looked at their announcement.
What do you think they mean by
"New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a
completely redesigned user experience."

Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
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Hi FrameUsers
It's here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/

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ANN: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new Adobe eLearning Suite

[RJ Jacquez]

*** I work for Adobe Systems, Inc. ***



Hi All, I'm extremely excited to share with you that today we have announced 
the availability of two major Adobe Suites, the new Adobe eLearning 
Suite and the second version of 
the Technical Communication 
Suite, version 2.

Furthermore, we are also announcing the availability of Adobe Captivate 
4, FrameMaker 
9 and RoboHelp 
8 and I will provide more information 
on these individual products in upcoming blog posts.

Over the next few days, I will be blogging actively on what's new in all of 
these products, but for now, here are some links to various recordings that I 
have put together to help our customers learn what's new and exciting in all of 
these new releases:

Introducing the Adobe eLearning 
Suite

What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication 
2

What's New in Adobe Captivate 4

Sincerely,

RJ Jácquez
Senior Product Evangelist
Adobe Technical Communication Suite
Adobe eLearning Solutions
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How do you create a new paragraph after a table?

[Fred Ridder]

Commenting on my previous reply, Winifred Reng wrote:> When you set manual page 
breaks via "Special | Page Break",
> you can decide, whether you want to remove them with a format
> import. There is a check box "While Updating, Remove Manual
> Page Breaks".

True enough. I forgot about that because my preferred method for 
inserting page breaks is the dedicated para tag with a large "space
below pgf" setting. That approach makes it easy to search for and
selectively remove the breaks or to remove them globally.

-Fred Ridder

ANN: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new Adobe eLearning Suite

[RJ Jacquez]

*** I work for Adobe Systems, Inc. ***



Hi All, I'm extremely excited to share with you that today we have announced 
the availability of two major Adobe Suites, the new Adobe eLearning 
Suite and the second version of 
the Technical Communication 
Suite, version 2.

Furthermore, we are also announcing the availability of Adobe Captivate 
4, FrameMaker 
9 and RoboHelp 
8 and I will provide more information 
on these individual products in upcoming blog posts.

Over the next few days, I will be blogging actively on what's new in all of 
these products, but for now, here are some links to various recordings that I 
have put together to help our customers learn what's new and exciting in all of 
these new releases:

Introducing the Adobe eLearning 
Suite

What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication 
2

What's New in Adobe Captivate 4

Sincerely,

RJ J?cquez
Senior Product Evangelist
Adobe Technical Communication Suite
Adobe eLearning Solutions
http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez

Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Art Campbell]

It means that the interface has been Adobe-ized, updated from the
traditional FM look and feel. Pallets like Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.

If you already know FM, your learning curve may last through two cups of
coffee, if you drink slow.

Art

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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, John Sgammato wrote:

> There is a more detailed presentation at
> https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/
> The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23.
> I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel
> Wolfson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM
> To: Framers
> Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
>
> Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2:
> http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/
> It looks nice.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
>
>
> Carrie Baker wrote:
> > I looked at their announcement.
> > What do you think they mean by
> > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently
> through a
> > completely redesigned user experience."
> >
> > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
> > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.
> >
> > _
> > Message: 38
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
> > From: "Yves Barbion" 
> > Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > Hi FrameUsers
> > It's here:
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
> >
> > Cheers
> > --
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> Instructor
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Within Adobe Acrobat Reader, is FrameMaker markup (e.g., Track Text) searchable?

[Avraham Makeler]

Hi all,
Is FrameMaker Track Text searchable within Adobe Reader (or some
equivalent)?

(Or even within Acrobat?)

If not, is there any type of markup that is automatically applied when
editing within FM, that is transfered to the PDF, and is searchable within
Adobe Reader (or some equivalent)?

Thanks,

- avi
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Importing Multi Page Tiffs, How ??

[Richard Melanson]

I posted this yesterday and was just wondering if anyone received it,
thank you. 

Hello Framers,

I have spent the last couples of hours trying to find an answer to this
question. I am importing by reference TIFFs into a Framemaker 8 file.
The TIFFs are a single file with multiple pages, but Frame is only
importing the first page. What am I missing here, I sure hope this is
not embarrassingly easy answer. Thank you for any help you can give me.

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How do you create a new paragraph after a table?

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

When you set manual page breaks via "Special | Page Break",
you can decide, whether you want to remove them with a format
import. There is a check box "While Updating, Remove Manual
Page Breaks".

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:26 PM
> To: amakeler at gmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: How do you create a new paragraph after a table?
> 
> 
> Avi Makeler wrote:
>  
> > Thanks for the responses.
> > 
> > >> You could choose Special> Page Break. The problem with 
> that method is
> > >> that FrameMaker removes the page break anytime you 
> remove overrides.
> > 
> > What?! Really?! In Word this is style independent and is a 
> hard break , as
> > real as typing "avi" or any ASCII character(s). 
>  
> That's because Word inserts a control character that *is* the 
> page break.
> FrameMaker does not. You force FrameMaker to break the page either by
> specifying the start location for the paragraph that follows 
> the break (to
> "top of page" or "top of column"), or by specifying a large 
> enough "space
> below pgf" for the preceding paragraph so that the next 
> paragraph cannot 
> possibly occur on the same page. In either case, unless you create a 
> dedicated style (e.g. H2_newpage or Body_breakafter), the formatting 
> that forces the break is a format override. And if you follow 
> the common
> beneficial practice of periodically eliminating overrides by 
> re-importing the 
> template's formats into your document, you will eliminate those page 
> breaks when you do the import.  
>  
> > No way of making a permanent  page break?
>  
> The way of making a persistent (noting is ever truly 
> permanent...) page
> break is to define one or more paragraph formats that are 
> specifically 
> defined to produce a page break.  But as others have noted, 
> it's generally
> a bad idea to use persistent page breaks because they are 
> very likely to
> become inappropriate as the text expands and contracts due to editing
> and revision of the document.  The approach that entails the 
> least work
> to maintain is to ignore page breaks until you are preparing for final
> publication, and to strip out all the manual breaks as the 
> first step before
> you start making revisions for the next edition of the document.
>  
> > And if I make a Heading style that starts at the start of a 
> page, I will
> > have to make a variant like that for H2, H3, H4 and H5.
>  
> Also note that you'd need to remember to include *both* variants of 
> each heading in the "include" list when you set up your TOC. 
> Otherwise,
> you'd only get the headings that don't start a new page.
>  
> The other approach is to control the break from the preceding page by
> using a non-content paragraph that has its "space below pgf" 
> formatting
> set to the vertical dimension of your main flow text frame. When you 
> insert that paragraph, it will inevitably force the next paragraph to 
> the top of a new page. And because it is a single-purpose paragraph 
> that you never use to hold content, you can globally delete them to 
> get rid of all your manual page breaks before starting a new 
> version of 
> the document. 
>  
> -Fred Ridder

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

I often have lots of dialog boxes open (e.g. paragraph/
character designer, marker window), and I do not notice
anything special. Specifically jumping around with the
insertion mark or selecting text is fast.

I have FM 8.0p277, 1 GB RAM, Windows 2000 Professional.

Therefore I do not think that dialog boxes in general
cause problems.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Art Campbell
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:20 PM
> To: Avraham Makeler
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC
> 
> The designer boxes may have caused the problem, but you're 
> going to run into
> more problems with only 1G of RAM. That's a very minimal 
> amount... 2G or
> more is recommended if you work with long documents or want 
> to have another
> RAM-hungry application running at the same time (like photoshop).
> 
> ARt
> 
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>  art.campbell at gmail.com
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> '52 Vincent and a
> redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No 
> disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Avraham Makeler 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Stephen you're a genius! I was l always working with the 
> Designer dial
> > boxes
> > open (definitely more professional that way... - like 
> having side panels
> > open in Vis Studio, and HTML editors etc.), so I closed 
> them, and la voila!
> > that did the trick!
> > Thanks!
> >
> > - avi
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Stephen O'Brien 
>  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Same thing happens to me with FM 8..when the Hypertext 
> dialog box is
> > > open...
> > >
> > > Have a nice day!
> > >
> > >
> > > At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi all,
> > >> FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor 
> tasks like
> > >> jumping
> > >> the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. 
> My PC is a 2.8
> > GHz
> > >> Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and 
> great for
> > >> everything else.
> > >>
> > >> FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC.
> > >>
> > >> Has anybody else noticed this about FM8?
> > >>
> > >> Is there something I can to do to speed things up? Like 
> disable some
> > mode
> > >> or
> > >> something?
> > >>
> > >> TIA
> > >>
> > >> - avi
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TOOL: Very inexpensive alternative to Illustrator etc.

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

I agree completely! Last December, I bought their suite of three tools
(Xara Extreme 4, Webstyle 4, and Xara 3D 6) for $119 as I recall
(special for the holidays) and it was money well spent, IMHO. I liked it
to the point where I decided not expense it to my company and just
license it myself (so I can keep it eventually!)

I think the combined software is still available from less than the
total of all three. However, for me, the Webstyle product is not one I
would continue to use, but the others are very useful indeed.

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:07 AM
To: Lone Writers; 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: TOOL: Very inexpensive alternative to Illustrator etc.

If you have a requirement to create illustrations but don't want to 
shell out megabucks for the big name programs, take a look at

http://site.xara.com/offers/xaraxtreme/

I've been using Xara for several years, and find it to be a fantastic 
value (even having paid full price).  The offer above is for the 
previous version, for only $19, available till the end of the month. 
You won't believe what this product can do.

(No commercial interest in the company, just a very satisfied user.)

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication Suite 2

[Yves Barbion]

Hi FrameUsers

It's here:

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/

http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/


Cheers

-- 
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RE: TOOL: Very inexpensive alternative to Illustrator etc.

[Syed.Hosain]

I agree completely! Last December, I bought their suite of three tools
(Xara Extreme 4, Webstyle 4, and Xara 3D 6) for $119 as I recall
(special for the holidays) and it was money well spent, IMHO. I liked it
to the point where I decided not expense it to my company and just
license it myself (so I can keep it eventually!)

I think the combined software is still available from less than the
total of all three. However, for me, the Webstyle product is not one I
would continue to use, but the others are very useful indeed.

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:07 AM
To: Lone Writers; 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: TOOL: Very inexpensive alternative to Illustrator etc.

If you have a requirement to create illustrations but don't want to 
shell out megabucks for the big name programs, take a look at

http://site.xara.com/offers/xaraxtreme/

I've been using Xara for several years, and find it to be a fantastic 
value (even having paid full price).  The offer above is for the 
previous version, for only $19, available till the end of the month. 
You won't believe what this product can do.

(No commercial interest in the company, just a very satisfied user.)

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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TOOL: Very inexpensive alternative to Illustrator etc.

[Stuart Rogers]

If you have a requirement to create illustrations but don't want to 
shell out megabucks for the big name programs, take a look at

http://site.xara.com/offers/xaraxtreme/

I've been using Xara for several years, and find it to be a fantastic 
value (even having paid full price).  The offer above is for the 
previous version, for only $19, available till the end of the month. 
You won't believe what this product can do.

(No commercial interest in the company, just a very satisfied user.)

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[John Sgammato]

There is a more detailed presentation at
https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/
The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23.
I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews.

john 

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel
Wolfson
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2:
http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/
It looks nice.

--
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


Carrie Baker wrote:
> I looked at their announcement.
> What do you think they mean by
> "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently
through a
> completely redesigned user experience."
>
> Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
> This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.
>
> _
> Message: 38
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
> From: "Yves Barbion" 
> Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Message-ID:
><2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44a54 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Hi FrameUsers
> It's here:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
> http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
>
> Cheers
> --
> Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker
Instructor
> www.scripto.nu  ? skype: yves.barbion  ? T: +32 494 12 01 89
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RE: How can I search for bold text and change it to a character style?

[Fred Ridder]

Responding to Avi's question, Art Campbell wrote:
 
> Create a character style with the correct attributes.
> Apply it to something.
> Copy Special > Character Style.
> Find, specifying the bold text, and replace by pasting.
 
Note that the Copy Special is Character *Format* rather than 
Character *Style*, and that's actually an important distinction.
When you use Copy Special, FrameMaker copies all of the current
selections font format characteristics, including the explicit font 
and size settings as well as the character tag that you really 
want to propagate. If you copy the format from a chunk of 
body text (for example, 11 pt TNR bold with the Bold character
tag applied) and then paste onto a selection in a heading (say
14 pt Helvetica non-bold), you will get a chunk of 11 pt TNR 
in the middle of that heading.
 
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Re: How can I search for bold text and change it to a character style?

[Art Campbell]

Create a character style with the correct attributes.
Apply it to something.
Copy Special > Character Style.
Find, specifying the bold text, and replace by pasting.

Art

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> Hi all,
>
>
> How can I search for bold text (this, I know how to do)
>
> and change it to a character style (this, not)
>
> ?
>
> TIA
>
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RE: How do you create a new paragraph after a table?

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Commenting on my previous reply, Winifred Reng wrote:> When you set manual page 
breaks via "Special | Page Break",
> you can decide, whether you want to remove them with a format
> import. There is a check box "While Updating, Remove Manual
> Page Breaks".
 
True enough. I forgot about that because my preferred method for 
inserting page breaks is the dedicated para tag with a large "space
below pgf" setting. That approach makes it easy to search for and
selectively remove the breaks or to remove them globally.
 
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Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

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It means that the interface has been Adobe-ized, updated from the
traditional FM look and feel. Pallets like Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.

If you already know FM, your learning curve may last through two cups of
coffee, if you drink slow.

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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, John Sgammato wrote:

> There is a more detailed presentation at
> https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/
> The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23.
> I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel
> Wolfson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM
> To: Framers
> Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
>
> Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2:
> http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/
> It looks nice.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
>
>
> Carrie Baker wrote:
> > I looked at their announcement.
> > What do you think they mean by
> > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently
> through a
> > completely redesigned user experience."
> >
> > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
> > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.
> >
> > _
> > Message: 38
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
> > From: "Yves Barbion" 
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > Hi FrameUsers
> > It's here:
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
> >
> > Cheers
> > --
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RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[John Sgammato]

There is a more detailed presentation at
https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/
The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23.
I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews.

john 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM
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Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2:
http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/
It looks nice.

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Carrie Baker wrote:
> I looked at their announcement.
> What do you think they mean by
> "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently
through a
> completely redesigned user experience."
>
> Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
> This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.
>
> _
> Message: 38
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
> From: "Yves Barbion" 
> Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
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><2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Hi FrameUsers
> It's here:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
> http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
>
> Cheers
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Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Avraham Makeler]

I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that clobbers
my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in my
arch. as compared to some other machine.

Tnx

avi


On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Reng, Winfried  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I often have lots of dialog boxes open (e.g. paragraph/
> character designer, marker window), and I do not notice
> anything special. Specifically jumping around with the
> insertion mark or selecting text is fast.
>
> I have FM 8.0p277, 1 GB RAM, Windows 2000 Professional.
>
> Therefore I do not think that dialog boxes in general
> cause problems.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> > Art Campbell
> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:20 PM
> > To: Avraham Makeler
> > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC
> >
> > The designer boxes may have caused the problem, but you're
> > going to run into
> > more problems with only 1G of RAM. That's a very minimal
> > amount... 2G or
> > more is recommended if you work with long documents or want
> > to have another
> > RAM-hungry application running at the same time (like photoshop).
> >
> > ARt
> >
> > Art Campbell
> >  art.campb...@gmail.com
> >  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a
> > '52 Vincent and a
> > redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> >  No
> > disclaimers apply.
> >   DoD 358
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Avraham Makeler
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Stephen you're a genius! I was l always working with the
> > Designer dial
> > > boxes
> > > open (definitely more professional that way... - like
> > having side panels
> > > open in Vis Studio, and HTML editors etc.), so I closed
> > them, and la voila!
> > > that did the trick!
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > - avi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Stephen O'Brien
> >  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Same thing happens to me with FM 8..when the Hypertext
> > dialog box is
> > > > open...
> > > >
> > > > Have a nice day!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >> FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor
> > tasks like
> > > >> jumping
> > > >> the cursor from one word to another or selecting text.
> > My PC is a 2.8
> > > GHz
> > > >> Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and
> > great for
> > > >> everything else.
> > > >>
> > > >> FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC.
> > > >>
> > > >> Has anybody else noticed this about FM8?
> > > >>
> > > >> Is there something I can to do to speed things up? Like
> > disable some
> > > mode
> > > >> or
> > > >> something?
> > > >>
> > > >> TIA
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Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2:
http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/
It looks nice.

-- 
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Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


Carrie Baker wrote:
> I looked at their announcement.
> What do you think they mean by
> "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a
> completely redesigned user experience."
>
> Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
> This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.
>
> _
> Message: 38
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
> From: "Yves Barbion" 
> Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Message-ID:
><2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Hi FrameUsers
> It's here:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
> http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
>
> Cheers
> --
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Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Avraham Makeler]

maybe there is some reverse psychology going on here:
maybe they are trying to attract new users. Nobody likes to feel they are at
the bottom of the class, which is what you are when you start out using a
well-established app - so best to try something that is new to all.

So the idea is to revolutionize the app so much so that now everybody becomes
bottom of the class, and so now it will attract new users...

:-)


avi



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> I looked at their announcement.
> What do you think they mean by
> "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a
> completely redesigned user experience."
>
> Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
> This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.
>
> _
> Message: 38
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
> From: "Yves Barbion" 
> Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Message-ID:
>   <2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Hi FrameUsers
> It's here:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
> http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
>
> Cheers
> --
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How can I search for bold text and change it to a character style?

[Avraham Makeler]

Hi all,


How can I search for bold text (this, I know how to do)

and change it to a character style (this, not)

?

TIA

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Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Carrie Baker]

I looked at their announcement.
What do you think they mean by
"New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a
completely redesigned user experience."

Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.

_
Message: 38
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
From: "Yves Barbion" 
Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:
   <2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi FrameUsers
It's here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/

Cheers
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RE: How do you create a new paragraph after a table?

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

When you set manual page breaks via "Special | Page Break",
you can decide, whether you want to remove them with a format
import. There is a check box "While Updating, Remove Manual
Page Breaks".

Best regards

Winfried

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> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:26 PM
> To: amake...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: How do you create a new paragraph after a table?
> 
> 
> Avi Makeler wrote:
>  
> > Thanks for the responses.
> > 
> > >> You could choose Special> Page Break. The problem with 
> that method is
> > >> that FrameMaker removes the page break anytime you 
> remove overrides.
> > 
> > What?! Really?! In Word this is style independent and is a 
> hard break , as
> > real as typing "avi" or any ASCII character(s). 
>  
> That's because Word inserts a control character that *is* the 
> page break.
> FrameMaker does not. You force FrameMaker to break the page either by
> specifying the start location for the paragraph that follows 
> the break (to
> "top of page" or "top of column"), or by specifying a large 
> enough "space
> below pgf" for the preceding paragraph so that the next 
> paragraph cannot 
> possibly occur on the same page. In either case, unless you create a 
> dedicated style (e.g. H2_newpage or Body_breakafter), the formatting 
> that forces the break is a format override. And if you follow 
> the common
> beneficial practice of periodically eliminating overrides by 
> re-importing the 
> template's formats into your document, you will eliminate those page 
> breaks when you do the import.  
>  
> > No way of making a permanent  page break?
>  
> The way of making a persistent (noting is ever truly 
> permanent...) page
> break is to define one or more paragraph formats that are 
> specifically 
> defined to produce a page break.  But as others have noted, 
> it's generally
> a bad idea to use persistent page breaks because they are 
> very likely to
> become inappropriate as the text expands and contracts due to editing
> and revision of the document.  The approach that entails the 
> least work
> to maintain is to ignore page breaks until you are preparing for final
> publication, and to strip out all the manual breaks as the 
> first step before
> you start making revisions for the next edition of the document.
>  
> > And if I make a Heading style that starts at the start of a 
> page, I will
> > have to make a variant like that for H2, H3, H4 and H5.
>  
> Also note that you'd need to remember to include *both* variants of 
> each heading in the "include" list when you set up your TOC. 
> Otherwise,
> you'd only get the headings that don't start a new page.
>  
> The other approach is to control the break from the preceding page by
> using a non-content paragraph that has its "space below pgf" 
> formatting
> set to the vertical dimension of your main flow text frame. When you 
> insert that paragraph, it will inevitably force the next paragraph to 
> the top of a new page. And because it is a single-purpose paragraph 
> that you never use to hold content, you can globally delete them to 
> get rid of all your manual page breaks before starting a new 
> version of 
> the document. 
>  
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RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

I often have lots of dialog boxes open (e.g. paragraph/
character designer, marker window), and I do not notice
anything special. Specifically jumping around with the
insertion mark or selecting text is fast.

I have FM 8.0p277, 1 GB RAM, Windows 2000 Professional.

Therefore I do not think that dialog boxes in general
cause problems.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Art Campbell
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:20 PM
> To: Avraham Makeler
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC
> 
> The designer boxes may have caused the problem, but you're 
> going to run into
> more problems with only 1G of RAM. That's a very minimal 
> amount... 2G or
> more is recommended if you work with long documents or want 
> to have another
> RAM-hungry application running at the same time (like photoshop).
> 
> ARt
> 
> Art Campbell
>  art.campb...@gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a 
> '52 Vincent and a
> redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No 
> disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Avraham Makeler 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Stephen you're a genius! I was l always working with the 
> Designer dial
> > boxes
> > open (definitely more professional that way... - like 
> having side panels
> > open in Vis Studio, and HTML editors etc.), so I closed 
> them, and la voila!
> > that did the trick!
> > Thanks!
> >
> > - avi
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Stephen O'Brien 
>  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Same thing happens to me with FM 8..when the Hypertext 
> dialog box is
> > > open...
> > >
> > > Have a nice day!
> > >
> > >
> > > At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi all,
> > >> FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor 
> tasks like
> > >> jumping
> > >> the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. 
> My PC is a 2.8
> > GHz
> > >> Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and 
> great for
> > >> everything else.
> > >>
> > >> FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC.
> > >>
> > >> Has anybody else noticed this about FM8?
> > >>
> > >> Is there something I can to do to speed things up? Like 
> disable some
> > mode
> > >> or
> > >> something?
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