Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[David Schor]

Hi everyone,
I'm trying to make a trial run during my first Flare v4.2 project. I
imported FrameMaker 7.2 files as my sources, and for now at least, graphics
are included. However, I received an error message, both during FM import
and now, during WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output generation:


Compiler (Internal Error): Found the path
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\Acrodist.exe
 to Adobe Distiller but the executable doesn't exist.
Adobe Distiller is required for converting Adobe FrameMaker graphics.
Aborted.

Problem is that Acrobat 7.1, not 8, is installed on my PC. During FM import,
the process continued and I was able to open the sources with the graphics
in Flare. However, when I attempted a trial run at generating output, this
error appeared and aborted the task. No output.

So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an upgrade
in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in the
configuration?

System parameters: Windows XP Professional SP3, FM 7.2, Flare 4.2, Acrobat
7.1 Professional, Acrobat Distiller 7.1

TIA,
David

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Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[David Schor]

Well, I just disabled the option Auto-reimport before 'Generate Output'. I
was then able to generate the WebHelpPlus output.
Apparently, the error below does not prevent me from importing source files
but it does stop everything when the import is included with the output
generation.
Still, I don't like that error message.

David
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:33 AM, David Schor dsch...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi everyone,
 I'm trying to make a trial run during my first Flare v4.2 project. I
 imported FrameMaker 7.2 files as my sources, and for now at least, graphics
 are included. However, I received an error message, both during FM import
 and now, during WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output generation:


 Compiler (Internal Error): Found the path
  C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\Acrodist.exe
  to Adobe Distiller but the executable doesn't exist.
 Adobe Distiller is required for converting Adobe FrameMaker graphics.
 Aborted.

 Problem is that Acrobat 7.1, not 8, is installed on my PC. During FM
 import, the process continued and I was able to open the sources with the
 graphics in Flare. However, when I attempted a trial run at generating
 output, this error appeared and aborted the task. No output.

 So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
 upgrade in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem
 in the configuration?

 System parameters: Windows XP Professional SP3, FM 7.2, Flare 4.2, Acrobat
 7.1 Professional, Acrobat Distiller 7.1

 TIA,
 David

 --
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 Technical Writer
 Afcon Software and Electronics
 Mobile:  054 478 8253
 dav...@afcon-inc.com
 dsch...@gmail.com




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Re: searching for a section symbol

[Stuart Rogers]

Carol J. Elkins wrote:
 In a table cell with View-Text Symbols turned on, how do I search 
 for a blank space following the last alpha-numeric character and 
 preceding the section symbol? I know the keyboard strokes to search 
 for the tab symbol, forced return symbol, end-of-paragraph symbol, 
 etc., but none of my quick-reference guides define the section symbol. Thanks!
 

Carol,

It's actually called an end of flow symbol or end of table cell symbol, 
and the wildcard to use is \f.  Search for ' \f' without the single 
quotes.  See the Help topic, Using wildcards in a search.

HTH,

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Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[Mike Wickham]

 So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an 
 upgrade
 in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in the
 configuration?


It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking for 
Flare support.

Mike Wickham 


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Minimize all Frame windows at once?

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, everyone.

I'm working in a document with about 20 chapter files.  Before I do a 
book-level search, I usually have only one chapter expanded and all the 
others are minimized at the bottom of the Frame window. During the 
search, Frame expands every chapter and leaves them all expanded after 
the search.

Is there a way to minimize them all at once, so that just the Book file 
remains open and everything else is minimized at the bottom of the Frame 
window? I googled this but found nothing.

--Nancy
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Re: searching for a section symbol

[Carol J. Elkins]

Stuart, Dick, and all,

When I search for text using the backslash-f term with Wildcards 
turned on, I receive a message that The item you are searching for 
requires text in the Find text box. When I precede the backslash-f 
term with a space, then I find every space in the entire doc--not 
just the ones at the end of table cells. The same result occurs if I 
use the string [0-9] \f or [a-z] \f  I'm using Frame 7 on a Win2K 
system. Someone indicated having the same problem on an XP system as 
well. So searching for an end of table cell symbol may indeed not be possible.

To the others who replied (thank you!), I wasn't looking for an end 
of paragraph symbol (\p) or a typographic section symbol (Alt-0167), 
or a forced-return symbol (\r).

Carol

At 08:16 AM 3/5/2009, Stuart Rogers wrote:
It's actually called an end of flow symbol or end of table cell 
symbol, and the wildcard to use is \f.  Search for ' \f' without the 
single quotes.  See the Help topic, Using wildcards in a search.

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Re: Minimize all Frame windows at once?

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Nancy...

I'm not aware of a way to do this using standard FM commands. Our plugin 
FileTools provides a Minimize All command that does this. Grab the 
30-day trial and see if it does what you want ..

http://leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php

Cheers,

...scott

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+1.415.485.1892



Nancy Allison wrote:
 Hi, everyone.

 I'm working in a document with about 20 chapter files.  Before I do a 
 book-level search, I usually have only one chapter expanded and all the 
 others are minimized at the bottom of the Frame window. During the 
 search, Frame expands every chapter and leaves them all expanded after 
 the search.

 Is there a way to minimize them all at once, so that just the Book file 
 remains open and everything else is minimized at the bottom of the Frame 
 window? I googled this but found nothing.

 --Nancy
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Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[David Schor]

It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking for
Flare support.

Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing also,
occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there are
FM users on this list that can answer my question.

David

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote:

  So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
 upgrade
 in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in the
 configuration?



 It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking for
 Flare support.

 Mike Wickham


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Re: searching for a section symbol

[Stuart Rogers]

Carol J. Elkins wrote:
 Stuart, Dick, and all,
 
 When I search for text using the backslash-f term with Wildcards 
 turned on, I receive a message that The item you are searching for 
 requires text in the Find text box. When I precede the backslash-f 
 term with a space, then I find every space in the entire doc--not 
 just the ones at the end of table cells. The same result occurs if I 
 use the string [0-9] \f or [a-z] \f  I'm using Frame 7 on a Win2K 
 system. Someone indicated having the same problem on an XP system as 
 well. So searching for an end of table cell symbol may indeed not be possible.
 
 To the others who replied (thank you!), I wasn't looking for an end 
 of paragraph symbol (\p) or a typographic section symbol (Alt-0167), 
 or a forced-return symbol (\r).
 

scratches head
Hmm.  I only did the quickest test so didn't encounter finding all those 
other spaces.  Does seem like \f has no effect.
/scratches head

However, you might be able to work with ' $' (space, dollar sign) with 
wildcards turned on.  That finds a space at the end of a paragraph or 
cell (not the end of a line, as the Help says) -- also throughout the 
whole doc., not just tables.  Depending on your document, it could help...

Best regards,

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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RE: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[Flato, Gillian]

In General, most of us are Frame users. We don't know anything about
Flare. Why would you ask people unfamiliar with the software for
software help? That's inefficient and a waste of your time as well as
ours. You're better off searching for a Flare support list and finding
people who have a vested interest in helping you.


Thank you,

Gillian Flato



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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Schor
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:54 AM
To: Mike Wickham
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking
for
Flare support.

Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing
also,
occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there
are
FM users on this list that can answer my question.

David

-- 
David Schor
Technical Writer
Afcon Software and Electronics
Mobile:  054 478 8253
dav...@afcon-inc.com
dsch...@gmail.com


On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com
wrote:

  So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
 upgrade
 in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in
the
 configuration?



 It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be
looking for
 Flare support.

 Mike Wickham


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Highlighting specific components in a graphic in a PDF

[Martinek, Carla]

Situation: 
- Maintenance Manual for a printer.
- Framemaker 8 source files on WinXP.
- 2-D exploded diagram graphics pulled from the CAD system. Each diagram
has parts from multiple kits in it. Files created in CorelDraw and/or
Illustrator.
- Documents distributed via PDFs on a CD, although they are also
formatted for print.
- Currently using Acrobat 8 Pro.
 
The product manager wants the writer (not me) to draw boxes around the
various parts in the exploded diagram to highlight what's in specific
kits. (Never mind that the components of each kit are called out in
another section, with their own graphics..)
 
Instead of doing this and crowding up a graphic that already has bunches
of parts and lines, I'm thinking that there is a way to create a graphic
that when we mouse over a legend indicating different kit numbers, the
appropriate parts will highlight in the PDF.
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks,
Carla
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Re: searching for a section symbol

[Carol J. Elkins]

You are brilliant, Stuart! The space $ string is what I needed.

Carol

At 11:59 AM 3/5/2009, Stuart Rogers wrote:
However, you might be able to work with ' $' (space, dollar sign) 
with wildcards turned on.  That finds a space at the end of a 
paragraph or cell (not the end of a line, as the Help says) -- also 
throughout the whole doc., not just tables.  Depending on your 
document, it could help...

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RE: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[Jon Harvey]

Hi David,

I can defend your position and help you with your problem but only to a
limited degree on both. I've used Flare and FrameMaker together for a
couple of years and I can tell you that the issue you are facing may
appear to be related to FM but is entirely a Flare issue. When Flare
imports files, it invokes Acrobat to convert some (but not all) image
types it encounters in your FrameMaker files. I haven't had enough
graphics problems when importing files to investigate the nuances of
how, when, or why Flare does this. However, I can recommend that you
contact Flare support rather than post this issue on the FM users list.
You can call MadCap Software at 1-888-623-2271 ext #3.

I know you're getting some negative feedback from FM users on this. I
hope it doesn't discourage you from posting FM issues in the future.
 
Jon Harvey
Manager, Desktop Documentation
CambridgeSoft Corporation
100 CambridgePark Drive
Cambridge, MA 02140
(617) 588-9354

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Schor
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:54 PM
To: Mike Wickham
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking
for
Flare support.

Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing
also,
occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there
are
FM users on this list that can answer my question.

David

-- 
David Schor
Technical Writer
Afcon Software and Electronics
Mobile:  054 478 8253
dav...@afcon-inc.com
dsch...@gmail.com


On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com
wrote:

  So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
 upgrade
 in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in
the
 configuration?



 It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be
looking for
 Flare support.

 Mike Wickham


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RE: Highlighting specific components in a graphic in a PDF

[Baruch Brodersen]

Carla,

Have a look at TimeSavers + Layers Assistant

http://www.microtype.com/showcase/LayerAsst/CalloutLayers.pdf
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/LayerAsst/DrawingLayers.pdf
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/LayerAsst/images.pdf

http://www.microtype.com/showcaseLayerAsst.html

TimeSavers + Forms Assistant is another idea:
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/FormAsst/SP_RolloverPop_demo.pdf

Baruch Brodersen

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:10 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Highlighting specific components in a graphic in a PDF

Situation: 
- Maintenance Manual for a printer.
- Framemaker 8 source files on WinXP.
- 2-D exploded diagram graphics pulled from the CAD system. Each diagram
has parts from multiple kits in it. Files created in CorelDraw and/or
Illustrator.
- Documents distributed via PDFs on a CD, although they are also
formatted for print.
- Currently using Acrobat 8 Pro.
 
The product manager wants the writer (not me) to draw boxes around the
various parts in the exploded diagram to highlight what's in specific
kits. (Never mind that the components of each kit are called out in
another section, with their own graphics..)
 
Instead of doing this and crowding up a graphic that already has bunches
of parts and lines, I'm thinking that there is a way to create a graphic
that when we mouse over a legend indicating different kit numbers, the
appropriate parts will highlight in the PDF.
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks,
Carla
cmartinek - zebra - com
 
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Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[David Schor]

I don't understand you people. When did this become the Forum for FrameMaker
as Stand-alone only? By your definition, this list should also be out of
bounds for anyone using FrameMaker with another program.

So please, no more FrameMaker/Webworks questions please. Those of you who
want to import Word files to FM or export FM to Word, don't waste our time.
To the writer who just asked about highlighting CorelDraw graphics in FM to
appear in Acrobat, sorry too many other applications in your question.
Mif2Go users? Go away and bother Jeremy, and leave us alone.

\end sarcasm

Seriously, for the first time, I am disappointed with this list and I've
subscribed to it for a long time already. I turned to this forum for help
because work in Framemaker is a significant part of the workflow in which I
had a problem. The error occurs during import of FRAMEMAKER files. So what,
pray tell, is so irrelevant here that some of you have to flame me? If you
don't know the answer and don't care, then please be quiet - no shame in
that because Flare is a relatively new program and many people have yet to
work with it. But as long as FrameMaker is being used in conjunction with
other products and in the production of content in multiple output formats,
then questions regarding the FrameMaker relationship to the workflow are
perfectly legitimate on this list and not a waste of time. Be tolerant
enough to realize that other workplaces use FrameMaker in different ways
than yours. It's not 1994 anymore, but 2009.

David
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Flato, Gillian gfl...@nanometrics.comwrote:

 In General, most of us are Frame users. We don't know anything about
 Flare. Why would you ask people unfamiliar with the software for
 software help? That's inefficient and a waste of your time as well as
 ours. You're better off searching for a Flare support list and finding
 people who have a vested interest in helping you.


 Thank you,

 Gillian Flato



 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Schor
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:54 AM
 To: Mike Wickham
 Cc: framers
 Subject: Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

 It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking
 for
 Flare support.

 Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
 problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
 Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing
 also,
 occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there
 are
 FM users on this list that can answer my question.

 David

 --
 David Schor
 Technical Writer
 Afcon Software and Electronics
 Mobile:  054 478 8253
 dav...@afcon-inc.com
 dsch...@gmail.com


 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com
 wrote:

   So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
  upgrade
  in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in
 the
  configuration?
 
 
 
  It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be
 looking for
  Flare support.
 
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RE: Highlighting specific components in a graphic in a PDF

[Martinek, Carla]

Thank you!  This was exactly what I remembered seeing in the past.

Shlomo - I should have thought of TimeSavers to start with... :-)

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Free SDL Author Assistant for Adobe FrameMaker 9 plugin

[Mike Wickham]

Could this be the FM grammar checker that many have been wishing for?



Posted on the Adobe FrameMaker User Forum:

SDL Author Assistant for Adobe FrameMaker 9

The SDL Author Assistant for Adobe® FrameMaker® 9 plug-in enables
enterprise-wide consistency in grammar, style, and terminology and
reusability of content. It checks written text for writing style issues that
impact the content's readability and translatability.

Please note that this plug-in is available as a free download for 
FrameMaker
9 customers.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4357



I've played with it a little and it looks promising-- though I miss Word's 
live grammar checking capabilities. But it's free, it works with FM, and 
Adobe is providing the download, so it appears to have their blessing. For 
those doing translating, the plugin also tracks previously translated 
sentences so that you don't have to pay to retranslate.

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Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[Mike Wickham]

 It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking
 for
 Flare support.

 Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
 problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
 Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing
 also,
 occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there are
 FM users on this list that can answer my question.

My statement was clearly related to the quote I included from your message:

 So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
 upgrade in order to work with Flare?

That didn't appear to be a FrameMaker question to me, and I bet that 99+% of
us here know nothing about Flare.

Mike Wickham


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Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[quills]

If only to pour gas on the fire:

If you specifically state that the workflow includes FM, then it's a 
legal question.

If it wasn't clear to readers here, then your communication wasn't 
adequate for your question. Problems always need complete disclosure of 
means and variables.

As for Flare, I detest it. It has always seemed to me one of the more 
basackwards ways of producing any output. The interface isn't organized, 
there seems to me to be inadequate documentation on how to use it, and 
finding information to solve problems never was simple because users do 
things in so many different ways while using it.

Of course, your mileage may vary with it.

Scott


Mike Wickham wrote:
 It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking
 for
 Flare support.

 Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
 problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
 Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing
 also,
 occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there are
 FM users on this list that can answer my question.
 

 My statement was clearly related to the quote I included from your message:

   
 So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
 upgrade in order to work with Flare?
 

 That didn't appear to be a FrameMaker question to me, and I bet that 99+% of
 us here know nothing about Flare.

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Translations or Localisation of Framemaker content

[Fred Staal]

Hi Framers,

We have two rather large technical manuals (300+ pages each with text and 
illustrations) that will need to be translated into Russian (90-95% of the 
material is common to both manuals). The content involves low to mid-level 
information on mechanical, hydraulic, high-power, low-power, fiber-optic, and 
telemetry systems (and a kitchen sink). We have not had to do any translations 
prior to this, so it is unknown territory. I'd appreciate any comments about 
how the process works, how to make it successful, and what pitfalls to avoid. 
You can contact me off-list if you prefer or if you have specific 
recommendations.

Thanks,
Fred

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Schilling Robotics, LLC

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Re: Highlighting specific components in a graphic in a PDF

[Shlomo Perets]

Carla,

You wrote:

Situation:
- Maintenance Manual for a printer.
- Framemaker 8 source files on WinXP.
- 2-D exploded diagram graphics pulled from the CAD system. Each diagram
has parts from multiple kits in it. Files created in CorelDraw and/or
Illustrator.
- Documents distributed via PDFs on a CD, although they are also
formatted for print.
- Currently using Acrobat 8 Pro.

The product manager wants the writer (not me) to draw boxes around the
various parts in the exploded diagram to highlight what's in specific
kits. (Never mind that the components of each kit are called out in
another section, with their own graphics..)

Instead of doing this and crowding up a graphic that already has bunches
of parts and lines, I'm thinking that there is a way to create a graphic
that when we mouse over a legend indicating different kit numbers, the
appropriate parts will highlight in the PDF.

Any suggestions?


As Baruch indicated, Acrobat form fields or layers may be used with 2D 
graphics.

Another option (which may actually be simpler to implement) is to use 3D data
from the CAD system and integrate it as live 3D in the PDF.

In http://www.microtype.com/showcase/3DAsst/PartEmphasis-3d.pdf
(which happens to demonstrate a printer ink cartridge), clicking a name
in a list highlights the corresponding part.

In http://www.microtype.com/showcase/3DAsst/SearchPartName.pdf ,
clicking a part displays its name; searching for a part name (complete or
partial, eg plate) highlights the matching part(s).


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
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searching for a section symbol

[Alan Litchfield]

Carol,

As I understand it there is no dialog operator to find that. I guess that is
the case because it is 'outside' the text flow and therefore is not searched
as a 'text symbol'. Your best option is to search for end-of-paragraph
symbols.

If however you are seeking to navigate to the end of a flow of text, I think
there is a way to move the Insertion Point to the end of a flow (IPEndOfFlow)
but I can't think of it at the moment. It may be neccesary for you to define a
keyboard command for this action(?).

Information on Customizing FrameMaker's behaviour can be found here:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf

(Sorry, you didn't say which version).

Alan


> In a table cell with View->Text Symbols turned on, how do I search
> for a blank space following the last alpha-numeric character and
> preceding the section symbol? I know the keyboard strokes to search
> for the tab symbol, forced return symbol, end-of-paragraph symbol,
> etc., but none of my quick-reference guides define the section symbol.
> Thanks!

-- 
Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS
AlphaByte
PO Box 1941, Auckland
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz

Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[David Schor]

Hi everyone,
I'm trying to make a trial run during my first Flare v4.2 project. I
imported FrameMaker 7.2 files as my sources, and for now at least, graphics
are included. However, I received an error message, both during FM import
and now, during WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output generation:


"Compiler (Internal Error): Found the path
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\Acrodist.exe
 to Adobe Distiller but the executable doesn't exist.
Adobe Distiller is required for converting Adobe FrameMaker graphics.
Aborted."

Problem is that Acrobat 7.1, not 8, is installed on my PC. During FM import,
the process continued and I was able to open the sources with the graphics
in Flare. However, when I attempted a trial run at generating output, this
error appeared and aborted the task. No output.

So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an upgrade
in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in the
configuration?

System parameters: Windows XP Professional SP3, FM 7.2, Flare 4.2, Acrobat
7.1 Professional, Acrobat Distiller 7.1

TIA,
David

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Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[David Schor]

Well, I just disabled the option "Auto-reimport before 'Generate Output'". I
was then able to generate the WebHelpPlus output.
Apparently, the error below does not prevent me from importing source files
but it does stop everything when the import is included with the output
generation.
Still, I don't like that error message.

David
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:33 AM, David Schor  wrote:

>  Hi everyone,
> I'm trying to make a trial run during my first Flare v4.2 project. I
> imported FrameMaker 7.2 files as my sources, and for now at least, graphics
> are included. However, I received an error message, both during FM import
> and now, during WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output generation:
>
>
> "Compiler (Internal Error): Found the path
>  C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Acrobat\Acrodist.exe
>  to Adobe Distiller but the executable doesn't exist.
> Adobe Distiller is required for converting Adobe FrameMaker graphics.
> Aborted."
>
> Problem is that Acrobat 7.1, not 8, is installed on my PC. During FM
> import, the process continued and I was able to open the sources with the
> graphics in Flare. However, when I attempted a trial run at generating
> output, this error appeared and aborted the task. No output.
>
> So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
> upgrade in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem
> in the configuration?
>
> System parameters: Windows XP Professional SP3, FM 7.2, Flare 4.2, Acrobat
> 7.1 Professional, Acrobat Distiller 7.1
>
> TIA,
> David
>
> --
> David Schor
> Technical Writer
> Afcon Software and Electronics
> Mobile:  054 478 8253
> davids at afcon-inc.com
> dsch.tw at gmail.com
>
>
>
>

searching for a section symbol

[Stuart Rogers]

Carol J. Elkins wrote:
> In a table cell with View->Text Symbols turned on, how do I search 
> for a blank space following the last alpha-numeric character and 
> preceding the section symbol? I know the keyboard strokes to search 
> for the tab symbol, forced return symbol, end-of-paragraph symbol, 
> etc., but none of my quick-reference guides define the section symbol. Thanks!
> 

Carol,

It's actually called an end of flow symbol or end of table cell symbol, 
and the wildcard to use is \f.  Search for ' \f' without the single 
quotes.  See the Help topic, "Using wildcards in a search."

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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-- Eleanor Roosevelt

Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[Mike Wickham]

> So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an 
> upgrade
> in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in the
> configuration?


It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking for 
Flare support.

Mike Wickham 

Minimize all Frame windows at once?

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, everyone.

I'm working in a document with about 20 chapter files.  Before I do a 
book-level search, I usually have only one chapter expanded and all the 
others are minimized at the bottom of the Frame window. During the 
search, Frame expands every chapter and leaves them all expanded after 
the search.

Is there a way to minimize them all at once, so that just the Book file 
remains open and everything else is minimized at the bottom of the Frame 
window? I googled this but found nothing.

--Nancy

searching for a section symbol

[Carol J. Elkins]

Stuart, Dick, and all,

When I search for text using the backslash-f term with Wildcards 
turned on, I receive a message that "The item you are searching for 
requires text in the Find text box." When I precede the backslash-f 
term with a space, then I find every space in the entire doc--not 
just the ones at the end of table cells. The same result occurs if I 
use the string "[0-9] \f" or "[a-z] \f"  I'm using Frame 7 on a Win2K 
system. Someone indicated having the same problem on an XP system as 
well. So searching for an end of table cell symbol may indeed not be possible.

To the others who replied (thank you!), I wasn't looking for an end 
of paragraph symbol (\p) or a typographic section symbol (Alt-0167), 
or a forced-return symbol (\r).

Carol

At 08:16 AM 3/5/2009, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>It's actually called an end of flow symbol or end of table cell 
>symbol, and the wildcard to use is \f.  Search for ' \f' without the 
>single quotes.  See the Help topic, "Using wildcards in a search."

Minimize all Frame windows at once?

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Nancy...

I'm not aware of a way to do this using standard FM commands. Our plugin 
FileTools provides a "Minimize All" command that does this. Grab the 
30-day trial and see if it does what you want ..

http://leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Nancy Allison wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> I'm working in a document with about 20 chapter files.  Before I do a 
> book-level search, I usually have only one chapter expanded and all the 
> others are minimized at the bottom of the Frame window. During the 
> search, Frame expands every chapter and leaves them all expanded after 
> the search.
>
> Is there a way to minimize them all at once, so that just the Book file 
> remains open and everything else is minimized at the bottom of the Frame 
> window? I googled this but found nothing.
>
> --Nancy
> ___
>
>
>   

Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[David Schor]

"It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking for
Flare support."

Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing also,
occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there are
FM users on this list that can answer my question.

David

-- 
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Technical Writer
Afcon Software and Electronics
Mobile:  054 478 8253
davids at afcon-inc.com
dsch.tw at gmail.com


On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Mike Wickham  wrote:

>  So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
>> upgrade
>> in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in the
>> configuration?
>>
>
>
> It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking for
> Flare support.
>
> Mike Wickham
>
>

searching for a section symbol

[Stuart Rogers]

Carol J. Elkins wrote:
> Stuart, Dick, and all,
> 
> When I search for text using the backslash-f term with Wildcards 
> turned on, I receive a message that "The item you are searching for 
> requires text in the Find text box." When I precede the backslash-f 
> term with a space, then I find every space in the entire doc--not 
> just the ones at the end of table cells. The same result occurs if I 
> use the string "[0-9] \f" or "[a-z] \f"  I'm using Frame 7 on a Win2K 
> system. Someone indicated having the same problem on an XP system as 
> well. So searching for an end of table cell symbol may indeed not be possible.
> 
> To the others who replied (thank you!), I wasn't looking for an end 
> of paragraph symbol (\p) or a typographic section symbol (Alt-0167), 
> or a forced-return symbol (\r).
> 


Hmm.  I only did the quickest test so didn't encounter finding all those 
other spaces.  Does seem like \f has no effect.


However, you might be able to work with ' $' (space, dollar sign) with 
wildcards turned on.  That finds a space at the end of a paragraph or 
cell (not the end of a line, as the Help says) -- also throughout the 
whole doc., not just tables.  Depending on your document, it could help...

Best regards,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product."

-- Eleanor Roosevelt

Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[Flato, Gillian]

In General, most of us are Frame users. We don't know anything about
Flare. Why would you ask people unfamiliar with the software for
software help? That's inefficient and a waste of your time as well as
ours. You're better off searching for a Flare support list and finding
people who have a vested interest in helping you.


Thank you,

Gillian Flato



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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:54 AM
To: Mike Wickham
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

"It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking
for
Flare support."

Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing
also,
occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there
are
FM users on this list that can answer my question.

David

-- 
David Schor
Technical Writer
Afcon Software and Electronics
Mobile:  054 478 8253
davids at afcon-inc.com
dsch.tw at gmail.com


On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Mike Wickham 
wrote:

>  So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
>> upgrade
>> in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in
the
>> configuration?
>>
>
>
> It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be
looking for
> Flare support.
>
> Mike Wickham
>
>
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Highlighting specific components in a graphic in a PDF

[Martinek, Carla]

Situation: 
- Maintenance Manual for a printer.
- Framemaker 8 source files on WinXP.
- 2-D exploded diagram graphics pulled from the CAD system. Each diagram
has parts from multiple kits in it. Files created in CorelDraw and/or
Illustrator.
- Documents distributed via PDFs on a CD, although they are also
formatted for print.
- Currently using Acrobat 8 Pro.

The product manager wants the writer (not me) to draw boxes around the
various parts in the exploded diagram to highlight what's in specific
kits. (Never mind that the components of each kit are called out in
another section, with their own graphics..)

Instead of doing this and crowding up a graphic that already has bunches
of parts and lines, I'm thinking that there is a way to create a graphic
that when we mouse over a legend indicating different kit numbers, the
appropriate parts will highlight in the PDF.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Carla
cmartinek - zebra - com

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searching for a section symbol

[Carol J. Elkins]

You are brilliant, Stuart! The "space $" string is what I needed.

Carol

At 11:59 AM 3/5/2009, Stuart Rogers wrote:
However, you might be able to work with ' $' (space, dollar sign) 
with wildcards turned on.  That finds a space at the end of a 
paragraph or cell (not the end of a line, as the Help says) -- also 
throughout the whole doc., not just tables.  Depending on your 
document, it could help...

Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[Jon Harvey]

Hi David,

I can defend your position and help you with your problem but only to a
limited degree on both. I've used Flare and FrameMaker together for a
couple of years and I can tell you that the issue you are facing may
appear to be related to FM but is entirely a Flare issue. When Flare
imports files, it invokes Acrobat to convert some (but not all) image
types it encounters in your FrameMaker files. I haven't had enough
graphics problems when importing files to investigate the nuances of
how, when, or why Flare does this. However, I can recommend that you
contact Flare support rather than post this issue on the FM users list.
You can call MadCap Software at 1-888-623-2271 ext #3.

I know you're getting some negative feedback from FM users on this. I
hope it doesn't discourage you from posting FM issues in the future.

Jon Harvey
Manager, Desktop Documentation
CambridgeSoft Corporation
100 CambridgePark Drive
Cambridge, MA 02140
(617) 588-9354

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Schor
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:54 PM
To: Mike Wickham
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

"It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking
for
Flare support."

Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing
also,
occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there
are
FM users on this list that can answer my question.

David

-- 
David Schor
Technical Writer
Afcon Software and Electronics
Mobile:  054 478 8253
davids at afcon-inc.com
dsch.tw at gmail.com


On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Mike Wickham 
wrote:

>  So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
>> upgrade
>> in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in
the
>> configuration?
>>
>
>
> It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be
looking for
> Flare support.
>
> Mike Wickham
>
>
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Highlighting specific components in a graphic in a PDF

[Baruch Brodersen]

Carla,

Have a look at TimeSavers + Layers Assistant

http://www.microtype.com/showcase/LayerAsst/CalloutLayers.pdf
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/LayerAsst/DrawingLayers.pdf
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/LayerAsst/images.pdf

http://www.microtype.com/showcaseLayerAsst.html

TimeSavers + Forms Assistant is another idea:
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/FormAsst/SP_RolloverPop_demo.pdf

Baruch Brodersen

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:10 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Highlighting specific components in a graphic in a PDF

Situation: 
- Maintenance Manual for a printer.
- Framemaker 8 source files on WinXP.
- 2-D exploded diagram graphics pulled from the CAD system. Each diagram
has parts from multiple kits in it. Files created in CorelDraw and/or
Illustrator.
- Documents distributed via PDFs on a CD, although they are also
formatted for print.
- Currently using Acrobat 8 Pro.

The product manager wants the writer (not me) to draw boxes around the
various parts in the exploded diagram to highlight what's in specific
kits. (Never mind that the components of each kit are called out in
another section, with their own graphics..)

Instead of doing this and crowding up a graphic that already has bunches
of parts and lines, I'm thinking that there is a way to create a graphic
that when we mouse over a legend indicating different kit numbers, the
appropriate parts will highlight in the PDF.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Carla
cmartinek - zebra - com

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Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[David Schor]

I don't understand you people. When did this become the Forum for FrameMaker
as Stand-alone only? By your definition, this list should also be out of
bounds for anyone using FrameMaker with another program.

So please, no more FrameMaker/Webworks questions please. Those of you who
want to import Word files to FM or export FM to Word, don't waste our time.
To the writer who just asked about highlighting CorelDraw graphics in FM to
appear in Acrobat, sorry too many other applications in your question.
Mif2Go users? Go away and bother Jeremy, and leave us alone.

\end sarcasm

Seriously, for the first time, I am disappointed with this list and I've
subscribed to it for a long time already. I turned to this forum for help
because work in Framemaker is a significant part of the workflow in which I
had a problem. The error occurs during import of FRAMEMAKER files. So what,
pray tell, is so irrelevant here that some of you have to flame me? If you
don't know the answer and don't care, then please be quiet - no shame in
that because Flare is a relatively new program and many people have yet to
work with it. But as long as FrameMaker is being used in conjunction with
other products and in the production of content in multiple output formats,
then questions regarding the FrameMaker relationship to the workflow are
perfectly legitimate on this list and not a waste of time. Be tolerant
enough to realize that other workplaces use FrameMaker in different ways
than yours. It's not 1994 anymore, but 2009.

David
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Flato, Gillian wrote:

> In General, most of us are Frame users. We don't know anything about
> Flare. Why would you ask people unfamiliar with the software for
> software help? That's inefficient and a waste of your time as well as
> ours. You're better off searching for a Flare support list and finding
> people who have a vested interest in helping you.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Gillian Flato
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Schor
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:54 AM
> To: Mike Wickham
> Cc: framers
> Subject: Re: Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2
>
> "It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking
> for
> Flare support."
>
> Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
> problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
> Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing
> also,
> occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there
> are
> FM users on this list that can answer my question.
>
> David
>
> --
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> dsch.tw at gmail.com
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Mike Wickham 
> wrote:
>
> >  So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
> >> upgrade
> >> in order to work with Flare? Or is there a way to fix this problem in
> the
> >> configuration?
> >>
> >
> >
> > It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be
> looking for
> > Flare support.
> >
> > Mike Wickham
> >
> >
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Free SDL Author Assistant for Adobe FrameMaker 9 plugin

[Mike Wickham]

Could this be the FM grammar checker that many have been wishing for?



Posted on the Adobe FrameMaker User Forum:

"SDL Author Assistant for Adobe FrameMaker 9

"The SDL Author Assistant for Adobe? FrameMaker? 9 plug-in enables
enterprise-wide consistency in grammar, style, and terminology and
reusability of content. It checks written text for writing style issues that
impact the content's readability and translatability.

"Please note that this plug-in is available as a free download for 
FrameMaker
9 customers."

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4357



I've played with it a little and it looks promising-- though I miss Word's 
live grammar checking capabilities. But it's free, it works with FM, and 
Adobe is providing the download, so it appears to have their blessing. For 
those doing translating, the plugin also tracks previously translated 
sentences so that you don't have to pay to retranslate.

Mike Wickham

Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[Mike Wickham]

> "It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking
> for
> Flare support."
>
> Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
> problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
> Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing
> also,
> occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there are
> FM users on this list that can answer my question.

My statement was clearly related to the quote I included from your message:

> So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
> upgrade in order to work with Flare?

That didn't appear to be a FrameMaker question to me, and I bet that 99+% of
us here know nothing about Flare.

Mike Wickham

Error generating WebHelp/WebHelpPlus output in Flare v4.2

[qui...@airmail.net]

If only to pour gas on the fire:

If you specifically state that the workflow includes FM, then it's a 
legal question.

If it wasn't clear to readers here, then your communication wasn't 
adequate for your question. Problems always need complete disclosure of 
means and variables.

As for Flare, I detest it. It has always seemed to me one of the more 
basackwards ways of producing any output. The interface isn't organized, 
there seems to me to be inadequate documentation on how to use it, and 
finding information to solve problems never was simple because users do 
things in so many different ways while using it.

Of course, your mileage may vary with it.

Scott


Mike Wickham wrote:
>> "It seems to me that the FrameMaker forum is not the place to be looking
>> for
>> Flare support."
>>
>> Why not? Work in FrameMaker is an integral part of this process, and the
>> problem is specifically happening with import of FrameMaker files into
>> Flare, which I believe that some other members of this forum are doing
>> also,
>> occasionally. It's perfectly reasonable to believe and hope that there are
>> FM users on this list that can answer my question.
>> 
>
> My statement was clearly related to the quote I included from your message:
>
>   
>> So, is Flare v4.2 only support Acrobat 8, meaning I must purchase an
>> upgrade in order to work with Flare?
>> 
>
> That didn't appear to be a FrameMaker question to me, and I bet that 99+% of
> us here know nothing about Flare.
>
> Mike Wickham
>
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Translations or Localisation of Framemaker content

[Fred Staal]

Hi Framers,

We have two rather large technical manuals (300+ pages each with text and 
illustrations) that will need to be translated into Russian (90-95% of the 
material is common to both manuals). The content involves low to mid-level 
information on mechanical, hydraulic, high-power, low-power, fiber-optic, and 
telemetry systems (and a kitchen sink). We have not had to do any translations 
prior to this, so it is unknown territory. I'd appreciate any comments about 
how the process works, how to make it successful, and what pitfalls to avoid. 
You can contact me off-list if you prefer or if you have specific 
recommendations.

Thanks,
Fred

Fred Staal
Supervisor, Technical Publications
Schilling Robotics, LLC

Tel:  +1-530-747-2850
Fax: +1-530-753-8092
fred.staal at schilling.com
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Structured Frame Help

[roconn...@netspace.net.au]

Hi guys
I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
unstructured Frame in V5.5

Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of a 
structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure using 
an existing example is always the easiest way.

I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming for 
help.

any help is appreciated.
bye for now
Rose




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searching for a section symbol

[Robert Evans]

Carol,

The FM help and book both list \f as being the sequence for finding the
end-of-flow or end-of-table-cell character (which I think is what you
mean by the section symbol), so something like "[0-9] \f" _should_ work.

However, trying it out (on FM 7, Windows XP), it does seem to work, but
will also find anything with a ending with a digit and a space, so
adding \f doesn't seem to do much. 

Is this a bug in FM7? I'm sure I've used \f in the past for tidying up
tables and it worked (only it didn't actually select the end-of-flow
symbol, and of course you can't replace it).

Rob

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carol J.
Elkins
Sent: 04 March 2009 23:39
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: searching for a section symbol

In a table cell with View->Text Symbols turned on, how do I search 
for a blank space following the last alpha-numeric character and 
preceding the section symbol? I know the keyboard strokes to search 
for the tab symbol, forced return symbol, end-of-paragraph symbol, 
etc., but none of my quick-reference guides define the section symbol.
Thanks!

Carol

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Numbering Lists for book

[Carol Gosnell]

Hi, 



I am sure someone knows the answer to this, but it is eluding me...



I am numbering graphics and tables in a multi-chapter book. The project
manager would like to generate one List of Figures and one List of
Tables (sequential numbers for each list).

How do I do that? Each chapter begins the numbering anew and the only
thing I can think of is to add a chapter prefix to the autonumbering in
the paragraph tag, but I'd rather have a much simpler list.



Thanks in advance for your help.



Carol Gosnell

FW: Framemaker image problem

[Brabson, Michelle]

This post is from a colleague of mine.

I have a growing problem with imported images into FrameMaker 7.2.

I typically work off a network. A few months ago, I started getting an odd 
message when I'd try to save files with images that are imported objects. 
(These are files I've worked on for years.) Even if I didn't change the image 
but only, say, changed the footer information, I'd get the following message:

"An internal error occurred while writing imported graphics in this document. 
The file has been saved, but has lost some image data. "

Our production manager looked at the files, copying them to her desktop, and 
had no problems. So I started working on those files on my desktop, and for a 
short time, the problem disappeared, only to come back worse than ever.

Now, whenever I save a document into which I've inserted an image, I get this 
message. I've tried 'File>Import>File...Import by Reference,' 
File>Import>File...Copy into Document,' 'File>Import>Object...Create from 
File...Link,' and File>Import>Object...Create from File' (without a link). I've 
tried to import Canvas files (.cnv), Visio files (.vsd), plain .jpgs and plain 
.gifs, and always get the same result.

Once this occurs, I have a file in the same path as my original file with a 
seemingly random 3-character extension after the .fm, such as 'CO4' or '357'. 
If I double-click the file and open with Frame, or if I delete the wonky 
extension, the file opens, but a grey box is displayed instead of the image.

I'm on FrameMaker 7.2p158, with Window XP Professional Version 5.1 (Build 
2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236 : Service Pack 3).

Our production manager found a previous post about Service Pack 3 of XP causing 
problems with imported images, but she is also on Service Pack 3 and is not 
having this problem.

I am on digest. Please respond directly to the e-mail addresses so we may see 
your comments when you make them.

Michelle

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