Re: Flare vs DITA

[gr...@hedgewizard.net]

My apologies for the format; I seem to be thinking in bullets this morning.
 
* Flare is a tool; DITA is a standard (or collection of standards).
* You can use Flare to produce DITA
(http://webhelp.madcapsoftware.com/flare11/Content/DITA/About_DITA.htm)
* There are multiple other tools that can produce DITA output (which is
basically a subset of XML).
* You can do topic-based writing for other formats. (I did that for WinHelp and
WebHelp for years.)
* As Shmuel notes, the big step with DITA is that it has a focus on typed
content, which can allow you to do additional things with the content more
easily.
 
Grant 

 On April 13, 2015 at 8:37 AM Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 
  Gillian asked:
   
  How does Flare compare to DITA? It seems like you get all of the advantages
 of topic-baesd authoring, without having to have someone write scripts for
 you. Has anyone tried modifying their templates? How easy or difficult is
 that. How is their help file making product?
 
  IMHO, topic-based authoring is writing content in small chunks or modules. To
 quote Wikipedia:
   
   A topic is a discrete piece of content that is about a specific subject,
 has an identifiable purpose, and can stand alone (does not need to be
 presented in context for the end-user to make sense of the content). Topics
 are also  reusable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuse . They can, when
 constructed properly (without reliance on other content for its meaning), be
 reused in any context anywhere needed.
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic-based_authoring)
   
  It does not imply that the content is typed (specialized).
   
  DITA is content that is marked up semantically. Although you can create
 content in DITA that is topic-based, you don't have to.
   
  So the difference at the content level between Flare and DITA is that content
 written in Flare is unstructured and not marked up semantically, and DITA is
 structured and marked up semantically.
   
  Which approach is more advantageous is going to depend on what you need
 overall now and in the future.
   
  Nadine
 
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  From: Shmuel shmue...@gmail.com
  To: Gillian Flato gill6...@comcast.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:35 AM
  Subject: Re: Flare vs DITA
 
  If you are interest in switching to topic-based authoring, and you are
  using Frame already, it might be easier to stick with Frame and switch
  to Structured Frame, which I believe is also topic-based authoring.
  (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)
 
  --
  Shmuel Wolfson
  Technical Writer
  052-763-7133
 
 
  On 12-Apr-15 10:52 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:
   How does Flare compare to DITA? It seems like you get all of the advantages
   of topic-baesd authoring, without having to have someone write scripts for
   you. Has anyone tried modifying their templates? How easy or difficult is
   that. How is their help file making product?
  
   Thanks
   Gillian
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Re: FM7 and Zapf Dingbats

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It could be that you have not added wherever the fonts are stored to the
FrameMaker Font path.
IIRC, in 7.2 there was an option under FilePreferences that allowed you to
specify the path(s) that FM would look for the font files.
You can also edit the maker.ini file directly to add the path.
 
Cheers
Grant

 On April 13, 2015 at 2:25 AM Davide Piva davide.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello Framers.
  I'm having problems with FM 7.2 on WXP Pro and Zapf Dingbats font.
  I'm building a serie of bulleted lists and I want to use the arrow and other
 symbols. After I paste the character in the Autonumber format field and update
 the paragraph format, a different Zapf symbol appears in place of the one I
 choosen.
  I tried to paste the same character into a LibreOffice Writer new document
 and the symbol doesn't appear at all (a Ü character appears instead).
  The Zap Dingbats font installed is an OTF and I previously had a PFM version
 of it, experiencing the same issue.
  Does anyone have an idea to solve the problem? W7 Pro is installed over an
 Oracle Virtual Box virtual machine running on W7 Pro; I don't guess this is a
 problem.
 
  Thanks in advance for your help.
   
  Davide Piva
   
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RE: How do you type a dash em in FM12

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Alt+150 –
Alt+0151 —
(entered on the number pad)
Works in any Windows app, providing the font selected has the glyphs.
 
Grant 
 

 On February 26, 2015 at 2:24 AM Laura Fergusson laura.fergus...@exterity.com
 wrote:
 
 
   
 
  I always use Ctrl Q Shift Q for em dash and Ctrl Q Shift P for en dash.
 
   
 
  Laura Fergusson | Technical Writer | Exterity Ltd
  tel: +44 1383 828250 ext 249 | fax: +44 1383 824905   
  e: laura.fergus...@exterity.com | w: www.exterity.com   
 
 
 
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
 (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
  Sent: 24 February 2015 18:59
  To: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: How do you type a dash em in FM12
 
   
 
  In stock Word, it is usually three dashes to get to an em-dash, two dashes
 gets you an en-dash (a different character). This is using the auto-correct
 feature, and you can change its behavior pretty easily too.
 
   
 
  Plus (at least in Word 2013 and Office 2013 products) typing a “space, dash,
 space” followed by another word and then a space converts the “space, dash,
 space” to “space, en-dash, space”. Not sure which option selects this
 behavior, but I don’t think it is auto-correct, since the change is elsewhere
 compared to the text entry location. It is also quite specific – having extra
 (or missing one) spaces before or after the dash does not work, for example.
 
   
 
  In FrameMaker, I just use the ALT 0151 key sequence to get an em-dash. There
 is also a menu pull-down that allows you to insert various common symbols –
 not just an em-dash.
 
   
 
  Z
 
   
 
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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com mailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:09 AM
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: How do you type a dash em in FM12
 
   
 
  In earlier versions of Word, when you typed 2 hyphens (--) it would
 automatically convert to a dash em. Is there any way to do the same or similar
 in FM12?
 
  Tom Beiswenger
  Manager, Technical  Training Documentation, Project Manager - Inspection
 Business
  Emhart Glass Mfg. Inc.
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Re: Digging in the past

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Grant Hogarth here. :-)
Boy, does that list bring back memories!
 
And although Max Hoffman's not on your list, he was at Frame when that list was
put together. :-)
 
Grant

 On January 2, 2015 at 10:38 AM Klaus Daube fr...@daube.ch wrote:


 Dear all,

 In a document from may 1991 Using FrameMath i find the list of the Program
 Team, of
 which I 'know' three:
 Ron Avitzur, the author of the base for the Equation Editor, and
 Charles Corfield, one of the founders of Frame Technology, and
 Chris Despopoulos, a member of this list and participant in beta testing (and
 author
 of scripts etc.).

 Are others also members of this mailing list?

 Ron Avitzur, Suzanne Braswell, Lisa Burwell, Chris Butler, Mark Carmichael,
 Kerry
 Champion, Greg Cockroft, Abe Conant, Charles Corfield, Chris Despopoulos, Cary
 Duncan, Joe Dunn, Bill Edwards, Gus Fernandez, David Fuchs, Louise Galindo,
 Jeff
 Gardiner, Dana Gosney, Eric Griswold, Malcolm Hobbs, Grant Hogarth, Ken
 Keller, Eddie
 Kessler, Ira Kleinberg, Susan Koehler, Sharon Lam, Laura Lamar, Kevin Lynch,
 Virginia
 Lyons, Ed Malick, Diane Manning, Jim Melani, Doug Meredith, Michael Milligan,
 David
 Murray, Will Naber, Lori Nelson, Mark Paine, Kathy Paxton, Eric Rapin, Bobby
 Rothschild, Steve Sargent, Bob Silva, Sandra Sundberg, Kevin Susco, Barbara
 Tansy,
 Yeong Yang.

 I'm just curious.
 Klaus Daube
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 Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich
 Technical documentation  consultancy; On-line and paper
 F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch
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Re: Consistent Conditional Text

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Hi K Grace; 
You need to select the paragraph symbol to have the entire bullet  be
conditional.
 
Regards,
Grant

 On November 8, 2014 at 7:38 AM K Grace kgrace4...@aol.com wrote:


 Does anyone have a list of rules of thumb when using conditional text ? I When
 I mark the text the results that I get when I turn the conditions on or off
 are inconsistent. For example if I have a bulleted list and I only want
 certain bullets to appear under certain conditions when I hide the condition
 the bullet remains (i.e., I am left with a bullet and no text) when I want
 both the text and the bullet to be removed if the bulleted item is not
 supposed to show up. Another such occurrence is if I select a paragraph that
 is conditional and I hide the condition the paragraph is removed but the
 spacing between the preceding and following paragraphs is not adjusted
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Re: FrameMaker 10 deleted a file from my hard drive

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All I can think of is some sort of collision between your backup process and the
FM Book generation process.  Unlikely (assuming the software is done right), but
hey...
 
Grant

 On October 24, 2014 at 6:12 PM Linda Gallagher lin...@techcomplus.com wrote:
 
  FM 10
  Win 7
   
  All,
   
  I was just working in a book that I created about a month ago. I created a
 PDF, found some things that needed fixing, edited a couple of files (not the
 one at issue), updated the book, found a bad x-ref, then found that the file
 the x-ref went to is gone. I mean completely gone. Not in the book file, not
 in the folder on my hard drive, not anywhere on my hard drive. Gone!
   
  I edited the file earlier, and of course it was the only one I'd made
 extensive changes to today, and it's also the longest file of the book (though
 only 20 pages).
   
  How on earth could the file get deleted. Everything is local on my computer.
 I'm the only one using any of this. The file was there when I created the PDF
 only a few minutes before the disappearing act. My only actions after creating
 the PDF were to edit a couple of files in the book, then update the book. Then
 WTF, the file is gone.
   
  I've recovered the file from backups (I have multiple backup methods and
 locations), but now I'm worried about this issue. What could cause it? I've
 been using FM 10 for years with no issues. (I upgraded to FM 12 recently, but
 haven't updated my old projects.)
   
  Any ideas???
   
 
  ~
  Linda G. Gallagher
  STC Fellow
  TechCom Plus, LLC
  lindag at techcomplus dot com
  http://www.techcomplus.com/
 
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Re: Update to FrameMaker 12 (FM 12.0.3)

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Huzzah! :-)
And *do* go read the update/defect remediation list at
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/release-note/framemaker-12-0-3-readme.html 
There are some features I would never have even thought to look for in the Table
enhancements, and *finally!!*: 
* Show/hide Conditional Text dialog is resize-able
* Cross Reference dialog is resize-able
* If a user is currently at a specific location in a document, the corresponding
tags are highlighted in the following catalogs:
o Paragraph
o Character
o Table
o Object style
Kudos to the development team!
Grant
 

 On September 26, 2014 at 5:15 PM Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote:


 Framers,

 Today our product management team announced a point release free upgrade for
 users of FrameMaker 12. You can read all about it in the blog at the following
 URL: http://adobe.ly/1BiFryz

 Categories mentioned include:

 Responsive HTML5 output is now faster and better

 Additional publishing enhancements (FM Only)

 == FrameMaker 12 can now publish the content in the reference pages as well
 for all non-PDF outputs.
 == The non-PDF publishing for large files with many images is now faster with
 50% reduction in publishing time.

 Integration with other Adobe products would work without TCS license

 Structure View Enhancements

 Table Enhancements

 CMS Connector Enhancements

 We have fixed more than 25 bugs as well!



 Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. 503.336.5952  |  c.
 503.805.3719  |  mhoff...@adobe.com
 http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -
  http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann  blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
 Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI Recorded webinars:
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Re: Mif2Go, DITA2Go, uDoc2Go: now open source

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Wow. And Huzzah!

 On July 26, 2014 at 2:06 PM Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk
 wrote:


 At 11:08 -0700 26/7/14, Carolyn Stallard wrote:

 Omni Systems is closed. As Jeremy Griffith wished, source code will be made
 available for all three software tools. Scott Prentice has very kindly agreed
 to set up projects for this purpose on SourceForge.

 This is all very heart-warming: it's not often that Things Are As They Should
 Be, especially after such a sad event.

 And thanks to Scott for taking this mantle on.

 --
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Re: Frame crash on Windows under parallels

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Makes me wonder if it is a buffer or video driver issue.
Grant

 On June 24, 2014 at 8:39 AM Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp w...@idtp.eu wrote:
 
  Hi Alan,
 
  I also had the impression it had to do with the mouse. But lately it aso
 happened when my mouse was dead (battery…).
  Especially when a book is open (or a ditamap) and some pods/panels, the
 document screen gets smaller and can not show the complete page. Scrolling
 left or right causes a crash...
 
 
  Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
 
  Wim Hooghwinkel
 
  June 19-20  Congility 2014
 http://www.congility.com/session/closing-the-loop-bringing-more-web-to-authoring/
  - Closing the loop with  FontoXML http://www.fontoXML.com
 
  tel. +31652036811
  Skype wimhooghwinkel
  Twitter @idtp @ien2013
  i...@idtp.eu mailto:i...@idtp.eu
  http://www.idtp.eu
 
 
 
 
  Op 24 jun. 2014, om 15:35 heeft Alan Houser  a...@groupwellesley.com
 mailto:a...@groupwellesley.com  het volgende geschreven:
 
 
 I can tell you that you're not alone.  :-(
  
   I'm running the same environment. Horizontal scroll on an unsaved file
  ... boom. Never fails. I see this most often in structured mode, but I do
  most of my work in that mode.
  
   I always assumed it was my Apple Magic Mouse(TM), but perhaps not.
  




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Re: Jeremy Griffith has left us

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Hear, hear!

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 At 10:56 -0400 7/6/14, John Sgammato wrote:

 Mif2go creator Jeremy Griffith died on May 15th after a long illness.

 This is sad news indeed. If anyone is able to pass on our deepest sympathies
 to his family, I'm sure we'd all be grateful for that, as we all are for all
 his hard work, dedication and patience, and his thoughtful and helpful
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Re: How to get rid of the Console pod

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or Console-ution.
:-)

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  You can call it Console Assassin.
 
  =D
 
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RE: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher

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Hey Keith—
I'm pleased to read that ePub is working for you.  I don't find it a *bad* tool,
just problematic (and every tool has its own problems).

I was reporting on the experience I and the other writers at my current employer
have found; which was that the more local you could make things, the better.
I don't know what my coworkers are using (I'm remote), but I do know that they
are laptops.  I'm running a mid-level i5 Quadcore with 16GB RAM and multiple TB
of disk space.
We have found that what takes me 5 min takes them 60+ min. (1300pp), and about 2
min/45 min (800pp, but more graphics (PNGs).

As for the template/stationery issue, again, I have to go by the problems the
writer who is our dedicated person for that has discussed with me, and the fact
that we are having to run two different versions of ePubExpress because of
licencing issues (and corporate bean counting); and that either the stylesheet
writer will need to keep two separate style sheets in sync, or some writers will
be able to process only some docs (and others, others).

The company is actually working at dropping all copies of FM and WebWorks, and
moving to DITA (SDL+XMetaL).  I will say that the stylesheet issues there are
currently *much* worse than with FM/WWP, mostly because the company has
contracted with some third party to control them.  $ for any change, so
changes only happen every 6 mo or so. Somebody related to upper management must
have needed work, or had a cousin who did. grin


 On March 13, 2014 at 1:39 PM Keith Soltys keith.sol...@tmx.com wrote:
 
 
  I’m running WebWorks on a six-year-old quad-core Pentium with 2 GB RAM under
 Windows XP, with my books and projects stored on our network, and have never
 found performance to be a serious issue. Mind you, my largest document is only
 about 300 pages if printed.
 
 
 
  I don’t think getting stationery or templates set up correctly is any more
 time consuming in WebWorks than it would be in RoboHelp or in the Publish
 module of Frame 12. Most of the work is mapping your document’s styles to the
 proper online format, which is a similar process in all three programs. If you
 have manual customizations (tweaks to CSS or scripts made outside of the GUI),
 it’s true that update releases can cause problems, but recent versions of
 WebWorks make it pretty straightforward to find the source of any problems.
 
 
 
  Regards
 
  Keith
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
 gr...@hedgewizard.net
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:48 AM
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
 
 
 
  ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats:
 
  1. It does not work on a remote Citrix desktop.  (I suspect that it might
 have problems with others, but have no experience with them)
 
  2. It *really* wants a modern system with lots of RAM (8GB ) and drive
 space.  It will work on lesser machines, but you might as well go see a movie
 while you are waiting.
 
 
 
  Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up
 correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not
 always working with another release (or update).
 
 
 
  Grant
 
 
   On March 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com
   mailto:rob...@lauriston.com  wrote:
  
   As long as you're evaluating alternatives, you should check out
   WebWorks ePublisher. It can use Word, FrameMaker, and/or DITA as
   source and the output. I haven't looked at its PDF output since my
   source was in FrameMaker, but it kicked RoboHelp 10 to the curb as far
   as web help.
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Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher

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I wasn't around for the OOB version, so I don't know how much work needed to be
done for the initial setup; I just know by anecdote that maintenance for both
was apparently a PITA for the person responsible.

 On March 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:


 Are you speaking specifically about PDF there? I found the web help
 stationery usable pretty much out of the box.

 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:47 AM, gr...@hedgewizard.net
 gr...@hedgewizard.net wrote:
  ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats:
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  Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up
  correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not
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Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher

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ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats:
1. It does not work on a remote Citrix desktop.  (I suspect that it might have
problems with others, but have no experience with them)
2. It *really* wants a modern system with lots of RAM (8GB ) and drive space.
 It will work on lesser machines, but you might as well go see a movie while you
are waiting.

Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up
correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not always
working with another release (or update).

Grant

 On March 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:

 As long as you're evaluating alternatives, you should check out
 WebWorks ePublisher. It can use Word, FrameMaker, and/or DITA as
 source and the output. I haven't looked at its PDF output since my
 source was in FrameMaker, but it kicked RoboHelp 10 to the curb as far
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Re: FM9 - Fm files have disappeared from disk

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I have run into this when working remotely with Win 7 (and possibly  Win8). I
 found the problem to be intermittent, and the only commonality to the failures
I had was that they both occurred on book regeneration (which is
file-transaction intensive).  I followed the guidance in
 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff686200.aspx  .

I had to manually create the Windows registry entries   DirectoryCacheLifetime
and   FileNotFoundCacheLifetime and set them to   0 (zero).
I have not had problems since, but have also been very cautious as to how I have
regenerated FM books.


 On March 10, 2014 at 8:42 AM Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
 
 
  Yesterday I spent a few hours updating cross-references in a book. I updated
 the TOCs several times. Saved all files several times. All went well.
 
 
 
  Today I open the same book and 6 files of 40 are missing - have the ? symbol.
 They are not on disk either.
 
 
 
  Has anyone seen this before. I am at a complete loss here.
 
 
 
  Thx for any advice.
 
 
 
  I do have a backup from the day before.
 
 
 
  Stephen O'BRIEN
  Coordonnateur à la documentation et rédacteur technique senior |
 Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer
  InnovMetric Logiciels | Software
  sobr...@innovmetric.com mailto:sobr...@innovmetric.com
  T (1) 418.688.2061
  F (1) 418.688.3001
 
 
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Hey all — the agency I've been working with has a new contract come open that
they are trying to fill in the Denver area. Feel free to pass along.

Here is what I know about it:

It is 6-month minimum full-time and onsite in the LoDo area of Denver CO, and
starting as soon as the desired writer is found. They are looking for a
moderately senior writer, a lead the pack kind of person. The mechanical
requirements are:

Experience:

• Recent experience with FrameMaker
• Recent experience with an authoring tool such as XMetaL
• Experience creating API Guides and working in an Agile Methodology environment
• Would be writing in a networking and communications environment; creating
documents pertaining to subscriber policy management and application

Other Requirements:

• Able to work with minimal supervision
• Good inter-personal skills, experienced in working in a collaborative
authoring environment
• Go-getter, not afraid to engage the product teams
• Able to independently identify and resolve complex issues and problems
• Team player

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Re: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?

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If you are using FM's native RTF, it's always been a bit dodgy.
(Though the PDF-to-Word exporter is even more so!)

I would *highly* recommend that you invest in a copy of MIF2Go
(http://mif2go.com/).  It provides a MUCH better output.

Grant

 On February 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM Harding, Dan dhard...@illinois.edu wrote:


 Good morning,

 We have used the same authoring process for eons: Authors/editors work in MS
 Word, as well as preliminary indexing work. I then take the MS Word file,
 import into FM (unstructured) and do the final print-ready formatting, making
 things adhere to our publishing standards and tightening up consistency.

 As a process it work well... until it's time to revise the book for the next
 edition.

 Our authors and editors will ONLY work in MS Word. PDF comments/revisions will
 not work, as there frequently are extensive revisions including insertion of
 new sections (multiple pages) of content, as well as shuffling of content.

 When I export the final FM version back to MS Word for them to work on, the
 conversion is VERY crude and frequently requires extensive work on the
 post-conversion Word files for the editors to be able to work within the
 files.

 Then of course there's the reformatting from scratch in FM when the revisions
 are done (which actually is faster and more reliable than trying to reconcile
 changes in the MS Word version with the existing FM version).

 Is there a better way to perform the round-trip process given the MS Word
 requirement, and barring that, are there better ways/tools to get cleaner MS
 Word files from FM than exporting to RTF?

 Would making the change from unstructured to structured FM on my part help in
 this regard?

 Environment:

 Windows 7 64-bit Enterprise
 Framemaker 10 (unstructured) [NOTE: TCS 5 is on order but I have not received
 it yet.]
 Microsoft Office 2010

 Thank you in advance.

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Re: Choosing a Help Format

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Not only that, but MS stopped support  for the 32-bit help viewer. (
WinHlp32.exe)
However, they do still distribute it http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607  ,
albeit with some fairly scary warnings.

There is an alternative viewer: Help Explorer Viewer
(http://download.cnet.com/Help-Explorer-Viewer/3000-6675_4-1061.html )

Grant Hogarth


 On November 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:


 There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one
 uses that format.

 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente
 feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote:
  We’ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he’s
  helped us realize that I might have been describing our challenge
  incorrectly. The developers are using VS 2010 to create an application that
  will run independently from Visual Studio, using .NET 4.0 as the framework.
  From everything we’ve read, it seems that MS Help Viewer only works if
  Visual Studio is installed; is that right?
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[gr...@hedgewizard.net]

Not only that, but MS stopped support  for the 32-bit help viewer. (
WinHlp32.exe)
However, they do still distribute it   ,
albeit with some fairly scary warnings.

There is an alternative viewer: Help Explorer Viewer
( )

Grant Hogarth


> On November 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM Robert Lauriston  
> wrote:
>
>
> There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one
> uses that format.
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente
>  wrote:
> > We?ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he?s
> > helped us realize that I might have been describing our challenge
> > incorrectly. The developers are using VS 2010 to create an application that
> > will run independently from Visual Studio, using .NET 4.0 as the framework.
> > From everything we?ve read, it seems that MS Help Viewer only works if
> > Visual Studio is installed; is that right?
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RE: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating from FrameMaker to Flare

[gr...@hedgewizard.net]

My biggest kvetch about all the structured doc tools I've seen (and I've been
using them as far back as IBM's BookMaster) is that they generally output like
sausage machines.
All the text is simply extruded onto the page, with no awareness of how people
read documents or process information.

It is true that s ome output processors/digesters can be instructed on how to
handle things such as widows and orphans, and even some semi-intelligent
hyphenation.  But none of them (in my experience) produce layouts anywhere as
near good as what even a moderately-educated human can do. (kerning, leading,
knowing what chunks need to stay together to be useful, etc. )

Their output is OK for very small chunk information like help pages, but
dreadful for any document that requires more than that.
I'm not completely opposed to them; using such tools  helps writing teams
standardize things --- and DITA (as a philosophy of information organization)
does help rationalize what can otherwise be messy organization. And they can
help with reuse (but not as much as you might think, once you start factoring in
the overhead of finding the resuable chunks, and then writing around them so
that they don't read like an undigested lump in the middle of your prose!)

Grant

 On October 29, 2013 at 9:30 AM Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:


 Mike's comment is interesting light of the fact that many people are moving
 away from WSIWYG in this century. The whole XML-authoring world, with DITA,
 S1000D, DocBook, etc., is a move away from WSIWYG authoring tools.
 Increasingly, authoring content is being separated from rendering it for
 output (for example, with applications like Flare). In a sense, we are going
 full circle back to the division of labor that existing in the typesetting
 era. That is why there may be a revival in the LaTex world: it has always
 separated authoring and rendering.

 Rick Quatro

 ➢ Isn't LaTex a non-WYSIWYG application, though? I can't imagine working that
 way in this century. I don't think I've done that since Wordstar. :)

 ➢ Mike Wickham
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Re: Font info disappears from x-ref format

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Hi Klaus---
Is it safe to assume that the appearance and disappearance is not
machine-related?
(If it is, I'd look for installed fonts and system language differences.)
Are the char formats applied one on top of another (nested)? If so, there has
been issues with them getting stacked.
Also, is this just in FM, or when out put to PDF/paper/HTML?

Grant Hogarth

 On October 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM Klaus Daube fr...@daube.ch wrote:


 Dear all,

 In the FM documents (FM-9) of a customer a special symbol inside an x-ref
 format loses its font
 information - only from time to time, but quite frequently. The symbol is then
 displayed as 2
 rather than the page-symbol. Refreshing the screen with CTRL+l does not help.
 The only bypass is
 to save the document, close it and open it again. It happens on XP as well as
 on W7.

 The x-ref format:
 X:CrossRef$paranum,\ U:SpecialSymbolsU:Black2Default ¶
 FontX:CrossRef\ $chapnum-
 $pagenumDefault ¶ Font

 The character formats are:
 X:CrossRef Color blue, Pair Kern
 U:SpecialSymbols Wingdings, 9.0pt, others: as-is
 U:Black Color black, Pair Kern

 Could the reason be in the accumulation of character formats?

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[gr...@hedgewizard.net]

My biggest kvetch about all the structured doc tools I've seen (and I've been
using them as far back as IBM's "BookMaster") is that they generally output like
sausage machines.
All the text is simply extruded onto the page, with no awareness of how people
read documents or process information.

It is true that s ome output processors/digesters can be "instructed" on how to
handle things such as widows and orphans, and even some semi-intelligent
hyphenation.  But none of them (in my experience) produce layouts anywhere as
near good as what even a moderately-educated human can do. (kerning, leading,
knowing what chunks need to stay together to be useful, etc. )

Their output is "OK" for very small chunk information like help pages, but
dreadful for any document that requires more than that.
I'm not completely opposed to them; using such tools  helps writing teams
standardize things --- and DITA (as a philosophy of information organization)
does help rationalize what can otherwise be messy organization. And they can
help with reuse (but not as much as you might think, once you start factoring in
the overhead of finding the resuable chunks, and then writing around them so
that they don't read like an undigested lump in the middle of your prose!)

Grant

> On October 29, 2013 at 9:30 AM Rick Quatro  wrote:
>
>
> Mike's comment is interesting light of the fact that many people are moving
> away from WSIWYG "in this century." The whole XML-authoring world, with DITA,
> S1000D, DocBook, etc., is a move away from WSIWYG authoring tools.
> Increasingly, authoring content is being separated from rendering it for
> output (for example, with applications like Flare). In a sense, we are going
> full circle back to the division of labor that existing in the typesetting
> era. That is why there may be a revival in the LaTex world: it has always
> separated authoring and rendering.
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> ? Isn't LaTex a non-WYSIWYG application, though? I can't imagine working that
> way in this century. I don't think I've done that since Wordstar. :)
>
> ? Mike Wickham
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Font info disappears from x-ref format

[gr...@hedgewizard.net]

Hi Klaus---
Is it safe to assume that the appearance and disappearance is not
machine-related?
(If it is, I'd look for installed fonts and system language differences.)
Are the char formats applied one on top of another (nested)? If so, there has
been issues with them getting stacked.
Also, is this just in FM, or when out put to PDF/paper/HTML?

Grant Hogarth

> On October 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM Klaus Daube  wrote:
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> In the FM documents (FM-9) of a customer a special symbol inside an x-ref
> format loses its font
> information - only from time to time, but quite frequently. The symbol is then
> displayed as 2
> rather than the page-symbol. Refreshing the screen with CTRL+l does not help.
> The only bypass is
> to save the document, close it and open it again. It happens on XP as well as
> on W7.
>
> The x-ref format:
> <$paranum>,\ 2 Font>\ <$chapnum>-
> <$pagenum>
>
> The character formats are:
> X:CrossRef Color blue, Pair Kern
> U:SpecialSymbols Wingdings, 9.0pt, others: as-is
> U:Black Color black, Pair Kern
>
> Could the reason be in the accumulation of character formats?
>
> Klaus Daube
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Re: Ghost Graphics Still Haunt My Document

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Save the files as MIF, and then search and destroy the references. :-)
Then reopen and save as FM.

 On October 21, 2013 at 1:28 PM Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Framers,
 
  My document previously contained two graphics, which have long since been
 deleted (related text no longer exists). Yet on each open, Frame 11 looks for
 them and I have to click the Ignore... button to move on. I've run a LOR and
 Frame reports these graphics on a given page. I cannot find them on that page;
 in fact, I've shrunk the main flow text box, moved it around, etc. and still
 don't find any hidden graphics. I've enlarged the view to 400% and can't find
 any nearly-hidden markers or anything that might reveal a ghost graphic. I
 tried a mif wash, to no avail...Frame still looks for these graphics.
  I realize I could fetch the graphics and file them such that Frame can find
 them, but that would just be wrong.
 
  What else can I try to get these ghosts to go to stop haunting my document?
  Thanks,
  Karen
 

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Save the files as MIF, and then search and destroy the references. :-)
Then reopen and save as FM.

> On October 21, 2013 at 1:28 PM Karen Robbins  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Framers,
> 
>  My document previously contained two graphics, which have long since been
> deleted (related text no longer exists). Yet on each open, Frame 11 looks for
> them and I have to click the "Ignore..." button to move on. I've run a LOR and
> Frame reports these graphics on a given page. I cannot find them on that page;
> in fact, I've shrunk the main flow text box, moved it around, etc. and still
> don't find any hidden graphics. I've enlarged the view to 400% and can't find
> any nearly-hidden markers or anything that might reveal a ghost graphic. I
> tried a mif wash, to no avail...Frame still looks for these graphics.
>  I realize I could fetch the graphics and file them such that Frame can find
> them, but that would just be wrong.
> 
>  What else can I try to get these ghosts to go to stop haunting my document?
>  Thanks,
>  Karen
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FWIW, we have just started seeing this behavior as well.
Running Frame 9 remotely through a Citrix Desktop, working on files that are
stored on a separate remote server.
Files (both main and backup) disappear from the directory.
Appears to happen when the book is regenerated.

In 20+ years of working with FM, I have never seen this problem before.

Grant Hogarth


 On August 29, 2013 at 4:44 PM Eugene Ingram Jr ing...@usa.net wrote:
 
  The publications department where I work has experienced a persistent file
 deletion bug using Adobe FrameMaker 9 (version 9.0p255) for the past few
 months. The bug only occurs when opening FrameMaker books from the network
 share drive in Windows 7. This network share drive appears identical to a
 local drive. When copying FrameMaker projects to the local hard-drive the
 problem does not occur. However, it's essential to work off the network share
 drive so that other writers see FrameMaker locked files and do not work on
 those files simultaneously.
 
  Steps to reproduce issue follow.
 
  Scenario #1:
 1. Open a FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated FM files are
 contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
 2. Generate a TOC.
 
Result: Files in book randomly disappear from FrameMaker project
folder. After restoring the files and running the TOC again, files
randomly vanish again. I use the phrase randomly vanish because
which files vanish is unpredictable and constantly changing every
time the TOC is generated.
  
 Scenario #2:
 1. Open a FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated FM files are
 contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
 2. Highlight all the files in the book.
 3. Select View  Hide Conditional Text Indicators.
 
Result: Similar to Scenario #1.
  
 Scenario #3:
 1. Open a FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated FM files are
 contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
 2. Highlight all the files in the book.
 3. Select Format  Document  Change Bars.
 4. Modify any setting(s) within the Change Bars Properties dialog box.
 5. Click Set.
 
Result: Similar to Scenario #1.
  
 My theory is that a bug in FrameMaker while using operations on multiple
files (a common denominator in Scenarios 1-3) is causing the files to get
deleted on the network drive. Although the network folder looks identical
in Windows 7, each file operation is going over the network instead of
directly to files on the local hard-drive.
 
  Is there a network version of FrameMaker? The reason the company doesn't have
 a network version, if such a version exists, is because each writer has a
 licensed FrameMaker copy on their local machine. FrameMaker interacts with
 network folders as if these folders were local folders. However, all operating
 system file operations are going over the network instead of going to the
 local drive. The network must therefore emulate the local drive. Is there a
 network version of FrameMaker that addresses this dynamic, or is the version
 sold for individual users supposed to operate on both local and network
 drives? If the latter is the case, then this could be a bug.
 
  Again, we need to work off the network because if multiple writers are
 working on separate features within a single book, the only method of avoiding
 collisions between writers is through the FrameMaker file locking feature. By
 copying files from the network to a local drive, making changes, and then
 copying the files back to the network, there is a danger of over-writing
 another writer's work. I can personally get away with copying down files
 because I'm assigned to an entire book, but that is not always the case.
 
  Has anyone else experienced this issue? If so, please share your workaround.
 
  Thanks,
  Eugene
 
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[gr...@hedgewizard.net]

FWIW, we have just started seeing this behavior as well.
Running Frame 9 remotely through a Citrix Desktop, working on files that are
stored on a separate remote server.
Files (both main and backup) disappear from the directory.
Appears to happen when the book is regenerated.

In 20+ years of working with FM, I have never seen this problem before.

Grant Hogarth


> On August 29, 2013 at 4:44 PM Eugene Ingram Jr  wrote:
> 
>  The publications department where I work has experienced a persistent file
> deletion bug using Adobe FrameMaker 9 (version 9.0p255) for the past few
> months. The bug only occurs when opening FrameMaker books from the network
> share drive in Windows 7. This network share drive appears identical to a
> local drive. When copying FrameMaker projects to the local hard-drive the
> problem does not occur. However, it's essential to work off the network share
> drive so that other writers see FrameMaker locked files and do not work on
> those files simultaneously.
> 
>  Steps to reproduce issue follow.
> 
>  Scenario #1:
> 1. Open a FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated FM files are
> contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
> 2. Generate a TOC.
> 
>  > > Result: Files in book randomly disappear from FrameMaker project
>  > > folder. After restoring the files and running the TOC again, files
>  > > randomly vanish again. I use the phrase "randomly vanish" because
>  > > which files vanish is unpredictable and constantly changing every
>  > > time the TOC is generated.
> > 
> >  >  Scenario #2:
> 1. Open a FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated FM files are
> contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
> 2. Highlight all the files in the book.
> 3. Select View > Hide Conditional Text Indicators.
> 
>  > > Result: Similar to Scenario #1.
> > 
> >  >  Scenario #3:
> 1. Open a FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated FM files are
> contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
> 2. Highlight all the files in the book.
> 3. Select Format > Document > Change Bars.
> 4. Modify any setting(s) within the Change Bars Properties dialog box.
> 5. Click Set.
> 
>  > > Result: Similar to Scenario #1.
> > 
> >  >  My theory is that a bug in FrameMaker while using operations on multiple
> >  > files (a common denominator in Scenarios 1-3) is causing the files to get
> >  > deleted on the network drive. Although the network folder looks identical
> >  > in Windows 7, each file operation is going over the network instead of
> >  > directly to files on the local hard-drive.
> 
>  Is there a network version of FrameMaker? The reason the company doesn't have
> a network version, if such a version exists, is because each writer has a
> licensed FrameMaker copy on their local machine. FrameMaker interacts with
> network folders as if these folders were local folders. However, all operating
> system file operations are going over the network instead of going to the
> local drive. The network must therefore emulate the local drive. Is there a
> network version of FrameMaker that addresses this dynamic, or is the version
> sold for individual users supposed to operate on both local and network
> drives? If the latter is the case, then this could be a bug.
> 
>  Again, we need to work off the network because if multiple writers are
> working on separate features within a single book, the only method of avoiding
> collisions between writers is through the FrameMaker file locking feature. By
> copying files from the network to a local drive, making changes, and then
> copying the files back to the network, there is a danger of over-writing
> another writer's work. I can personally get away with copying down files
> because I'm assigned to an entire book, but that is not always the case.
> 
>  Has anyone else experienced this issue? If so, please share your workaround.
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Eugene
> 
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Re: Special character: punctuation space

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The other space is the non-breaking space, which is a fixed space, and which (if
you are converting to HTML, stays a non-breaking space (nbsp;).

Ctrl+space to enter
\ (backslash-space) to search/replace.

Grant

 On July 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  And if I'd read more closely, I'd have seen you knew how to do thin space.
 
  I believe those are the only special spaces available, though, so if thin
 space isn't what you want, you might try numeric. I don't recall ever seeing
 one that was the width of punctuation, and I doubt if there is one, since
 how much space a mark of punctuation takes up depends on the mark in
 proportional spacing. For example, a ? will take up more room than a !.
 
  If thin space isn't what you want, try the numeric. Beyond that, I got
 nothing. :)
  On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com
 mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com  wrote:
  Number space: Esc+space+1
 Em space: Esc+space+m
 En space: Esc+space+n
 Thin space: Esc+space+t
  
 You probably want thin space.

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The other space is the non-breaking space, which is a fixed space, and which (if
you are converting to HTML, stays a non-breaking space ().

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> On July 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM Lin Sims  wrote:
> 
>  And if I'd read more closely, I'd have seen you knew how to do thin space.
> 
>  I believe those are the only "special" spaces available, though, so if thin
> space isn't what you want, you might try numeric. I don't recall ever seeing
> one that was "the width of punctuation", and I doubt if there is one, since
> how much space a mark of punctuation takes up depends on the mark in
> proportional spacing. For example, a "?" will take up more room than a "!".
> 
>  If thin space isn't what you want, try the numeric. Beyond that, I got
> nothing. :)
>  On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Lin Sims   > wrote:
>> > Number space: Esc++1
> >Em space: Esc++m
> >En space: Esc++n
> >Thin space: Esc++t
> > 
> >You probably want thin space.
> >  > 
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Re: QUESTION: Accepting all changes in an FM9 book?

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Thanks Anjaneai---
   At least in FM9, the Special menu is not available for books--- only for
individual documents.

Grant

 On June 12, 2013 at 8:02 PM Anjaneai S anjan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Grant,
 
  Please check if it gives you Accept All under Special Menu -- Track Text
 Edits.
 
  Sorry, I am unable to recall whether the interface options are same for
 FrameMaker 9 as for 10  11.
 
  Thanks,
  Anjaneai
 
 
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 mailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net  wrote:
 Does anyone know how to accept all of  the tracked edits in a book
  without having to open each file?
 I seem to recall that one can do this, but neither my memory nor searches
  are coming up with the answer.
  
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Creating a clickable link for email in a frame (to pdf) document

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Hello Theresa--
You can't use a variable in this case.
What you want to do is have a "word" (for example "TdeV at bstw.com") that has 
the
hypertext marker GoTO URL "mailto:TdeV at bstw.com" in it.
Then you must tag the word with a character format tag (such as "link" -- you
may need to create this tag).

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> On June 13, 2013 at 9:02 AM Theresa de Valence  wrote:
>
>
> How to I get a "Variable, Marker" or "Variable, Hypertext" of someone's
> email address to show up as a clickable link in a pdf?
>
> None of the command options under "Variable, Hypertext" look reasonable.
>
> I think I want
> mailto:TdeV at bstw.com
>
> but what goes in front of it?
>
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Does anyone know how to accept all of  the tracked edits in a book without
having to open each file?
I seem to recall that one can do this, but neither my memory nor searches are
coming up with the answer.

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How to set up a Running H/F to call a paratag from a previous file

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All I can think of is to use a crossreference or a variable. Not as easily
maintained, though.

Grant

> On May 23, 2013 at 4:11 PM "Carol J. Elkins"  
> wrote:
>
>
> The Running H/F in my master page calls for a paratag like this:
> 
>
> I have child pages (each a separate file) that use that same master
> page, but because they are child pages, they don't have their own [H2
> Sub Title] paratag anywhere in the file. I want that Running H/F to
> locate the last instance of the paratag, which would be on the parent
> page, which is in a previous file. In other words, I want it to look
> backward instead of forward.
>
> You can tell Frame to look backward for a paratag in the same file,
> but I can't find any mention in Frame11 Help about looking backward
> for a paratag in a previous file.
>
> Is this even possible? If so, how do I revise the Running H/F 2 call
> to that paratag so that it works as described?
>
> If not, then I know I will need to move all of the child pages into
> the same file as the parent page that contains the [H2 Sub Title]
> paratag. But there are hundreds of them and I'd rather not.
>
> Carol
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Is there a way to generate a list of variables used in a book?
I don't see anything in the native functionality.

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Re: global master page changes: Timestamp

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There is a pair of default FM variables: Modification date long and
Modification date short  that will do what you want.
Grant

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  The problem I foresee with this method is that the variable will
 automatically update when the document is opened on or after the 1st of each
 month, even if the content of the document hasn't been modified. If you want
 the new date only when modifications are made, create a user variable that you
 edit at the time of the revisions.
 
  Pat
 
 
  On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:
 
 
 Tim,
   In your variables definition, place the following at the beginning of
  your running header:
  
   $monthname $year
  
   Using this method, Frame reads the month name from your computer and
  you never have to change it.
  
   -Gillian
  
   From:  framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
  mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
   [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
   Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 2:02 AM
   To: framers@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
   Subject: global master page changes
  
   I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month.
  The client likes to have a “version” in the header, such as “March 2013
  Version”, “April 2013 Version,” etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
  of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
  I’m currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
  framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
   Thanks in advance for the help.
  
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There is a pair of default FM variables: "Modification date long" and
"Modification date short"  that will do what you want.
Grant

> On March 25, 2013 at 2:59 PM Pat Christenson  wrote:
> 
>  The problem I foresee with this method is that the variable will
> automatically update when the document is opened on or after the 1st of each
> month, even if the content of the document hasn't been modified. If you want
> the new date only when modifications are made, create a user variable that you
> edit at the time of the revisions.
> 
>  Pat
> 
> 
>  On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:
> 
> 
>  > >  Tim,
> >  In your variables definition, place the following at the beginning of
> > your running header:
> > 
> >  <$monthname> <$year>
> > 
> >  Using this method, Frame reads the month name from your computer and
> > you never have to change it.
> > 
> >  -Gillian
> > 
> >  From:  framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> > 
> >  [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy 
> > DeWees
> >  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 2:02 AM
> >  To: framers at lists.frameusers.com  > lists.frameusers.com>
> >  Subject: global master page changes
> > 
> >  I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month.
> > The client likes to have a ?version? in the header, such as ?March 2013
> > Version?, ?April 2013 Version,? etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
> > of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
> > I?m currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
> > framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
> >  Thanks in advance for the help.
> > 
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One thought is that the change bars option might be on for a character tag, and
then that tag is used as part of some of your xrefs.
Grant

> On March 1, 2013 at 7:00 AM Kristy Nolan  wrote:
> 
> 
>  Hi, all!
> 
> 
> 
>  I am posting for a coworker, but I have no answers or where to start either.
> 
> 
> 
>  In our FrameMaker 10 book, we add the change bar style to cross references
> that have changed for a revision. When we modify that page for a subsequent
> revision, we remove the change bar style. These change bars reappear on cross
> references at random. The reappearance seems to relate to the PDF process
> because when I open the FrameMaker file to remove the errant change bar from
> the cross reference, the change bar that appears in the PDF doesn?t always
> appear in the FrameMaker file.
> 
>  I have run into this situation multiple times. Any thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
>  The book is in VERY unstructured Frame, but we cannot fix that at this point
> (although I don?t see how that would affect this).
> 
> 
> 
>  Thanks!
> 
>  Kristy
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RE: Line numbering tables in FM11?

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This is old-school, but If your line spacing is standard, one option would
be to place a new flow on the master page(s) just wide enough for the largest
line number.
On the body page(s), you would insert into that flow a series of autonumbered
paragraphs with no other content. (They should have a different flow ID than any
other series of numbered paras in the document.)

If you needed to adjust for spacing around heads, you could create a set of
head number paras that would use the same flow ID, but are tweaked to match
the head spacing.  The only problem with this is that applying the para tags
would be a manual process.  You'd have to do a similar thing for figures.

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This is old-school, but If your line spacing is standard, one option would
be to place a new flow on the master page(s) just wide enough for the largest
line number.
On the body page(s), you would insert into that flow a series of autonumbered
paragraphs with no other content. (They should have a different flow ID than any
other series of numbered paras in the document.)

If you needed to adjust for spacing around heads, you could create a set of
"head number" paras that would use the same flow ID, but are tweaked to match
the head spacing.  The only problem with this is that applying the para tags
would be a manual process.  You'd have to do a similar thing for figures.

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hear hear!

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 contributed to making this so problem so visible and those who took action to
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Shmuel,
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to sort them in a regular FM document.
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 Is there a way to sort paragraphs in Frame without changing the text to
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RE: on Adobe site: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing expired)

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Hi Bill —
It worked fine on my system (Win 7 Pro 64bit).
Did you run it as administrator or with an administrator-priviledged account?
Grant

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wrote:

 
  My experience:
 
 
  Zipfile Did NOT work on 64-bit, Windows 7, FM10. Error message is Could not
 update FrameMaker 10 license: attempt to write a readonly Database. Which
 database file is it so I can change properties?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Bill
 
 
 
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lebbink, Belinda
  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:47 AM
  To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
  Subject: FIX: on Adobe site: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing
 expired
 
 
 
  Hello,
 
 
 
  First the best wishes for you all.
 
 
 
  I’ve got the same problem, but there is a better and quicker solution than
 manipulating data.
 
  The problem is known by Adobe and they working on it.
 
  It has something to do with the CS5 license.
 
 
 
  The blog with the link to fixed this:
 http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10-not-launching.html
 http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10-not-launching.html
 
 
 
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Hi Bill ?
It worked fine on my system (Win 7 Pro 64bit).
Did you run it as administrator or with an administrator-priviledged account?
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> 
>  My experience:
> 
> 
>  Zipfile Did NOT work on 64-bit, Windows 7, FM10. Error message is "Could not
> update FrameMaker 10 license: attempt to write a readonly Database". Which
> database file is it so I can change properties?
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>  Bill
> 
> 
> 
>  From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lebbink, Belinda
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:47 AM
>  To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
>  Subject: FIX: on Adobe site: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing
> expired"
> 
> 
> 
>  Hello,
> 
> 
> 
>  First the best wishes for you all.
> 
> 
> 
>  I?ve got the same problem, but there is a better and quicker solution than
> manipulating data.
> 
>  The problem is known by Adobe and they working on it.
> 
>  It has something to do with the CS5 license.
> 
> 
> 
>  The blog with the link to fixed this:
> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10-not-launching.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Good luck.
> 
>  With kind regards,
> 
>  Belinda Lebbink
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hear hear!

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> contributed to making this so problem so visible and those who took action to
> quickly solve it.
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RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing expired)

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I get the same error message as well.  This is decidedly not cool.
Grant

On January 1, 2013 at 1:47 PM Tammy Van Boening tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com
wrote:

 
  Also, just talked to a colleague and she gets this same message when she
 opens FM 10 on her desktop (and it was installed as part of the TCS suite.)
  It appears to be any FM10 user.
 
 
 
  TVB
 
 
 
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 1:23 PM
  Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing expired)
 
 
 
  I am sure that it is everyone who has FM 10, regardless if it is part of a
 suite or standalone. I have a longtime client and I access a virtual PC on
 their network and on this virtual PC FM 10 is installed as a standalone
 product. I just logged into the virtual PC and attempted to open FM 10 and get
 the same lousy message. Installing FM 11 as a workaround is not an option as
 this is not my PC, but my client's. I wouldn't dare install any other SW w/out
 their permission first.
 
 
 
  TVB
 
 
 
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com ] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 12:39 PM
  To: 'Anjaneai S'
  Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing expired)
 
 
 
  Anjaneai,
 
 
 
  I went to the site indicated by the link below and attempted Solution 2, even
 though I have standalone Framemaker. It was not installed as part of an
 application suite.  When I attempt to Deactivate, and then Deactivate
 Permanently, I receive the message Please connect to the internet to
 deactivate and I AM connected to the internet. I am unable to deactivate my
 account at all, so I am unable to attempt Solution #2.  Also, I did stop and
 then restart the FlexNet Licensing Services and that did not work either. Like
 others on this, I am unable to use Framemaker 10.
 
 
 
  TVB
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com ] On Behalf Of Anjaneai S
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 3:47 AM
  To: Shlomo Perets
  Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com ;
 techsho...@yahoogroups.com mailto:techsho...@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing expired)
 
 
 
  Hi Shlomo,
 
  First of all, a very Happy New Year to all dear Framers!
 
  Can you please try the steps suggested here -
 
 http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-licensing-product-expired-cs4.html
 http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-licensing-product-expired-cs4.html
 
  Also, please go to start - run - launch - services.msc and look for 'Flexnet
 Licensing Service' and restart/start the service.
 
  Please share me your findings.
 
  Good luck!
 
  Thanks,
  Anjaneai
 
  On Jan 1, 2013 3:06 PM, Shlomo Perets shlo...@microtype.com
 mailto:shlo...@microtype.com  wrote:
 
 
  As of this morning, when starting FM10 a message indicating licensing
 expired shows up, and the program would not run.
  (likely related to the change of year -- best wishes for 2013!)
 
  Other FM10 users in different locations encountered a similar problem.
 
  The Adobe chat representative suggested contacting Adobe tech support by
 phone, where I (expectedly) got a closed for the holiday message.
 
  FM11, FM9 and FM8 do start as expected.
 
 
  Shlomo Perets
 
  MicroType, http://www.microtype.com http://www.microtype.com/
  FrameMaker/Acrobat/Captivate training  consulting * FM-to-Acrobat
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Re: FM 10 Licence Failure

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FWIW, I just wasted 2.5 h today with Adobe Technical support, and they don't
have a clue about what might be causing the FM10 license failure.
We have uninstalled, installed, uninstalled and run the Adobe CS cleaner, then
reinstalled, and gotten exactly nowhere, other than to prove that none of the
known fixes work.

My personal suspicion is that some programmer put a drop-dead date in the
licensing application used for FM10 only of Jan 1 2013 (or possibly
12:59:59:12:2012), and nobody at Adobe tested for operation beyond that date.
(Reason? All the other applications in TC Suite 3.5 work just fine...)

Wonder if we can bill Adobe for all the lost productivity hours

Seriously annoyed (but probably not as annoyed as Tom Aldous is going to be...)

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FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

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I get the same error message as well.  This is decidedly not cool.
Grant

On January 1, 2013 at 1:47 PM Tammy Van Boening 
wrote:

> 
>  Also, just talked to a colleague and she gets this same message when she
> opens FM 10 on her desktop (and it was installed as part of the TCS suite.)
>  It appears to be any FM10 user.
> 
> 
> 
>  TVB
> 
> 
> 
>  From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van 
> Boening
>  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 1:23 PM
>  Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>  Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")
> 
> 
> 
>  I am sure that it is everyone who has FM 10, regardless if it is part of a
> suite or standalone. I have a longtime client and I access a virtual PC on
> their network and on this virtual PC FM 10 is installed as a standalone
> product. I just logged into the virtual PC and attempted to open FM 10 and get
> the same lousy message. Installing FM 11 as a workaround is not an option as
> this is not my PC, but my client's. I wouldn't dare install any other SW w/out
> their permission first.
> 
> 
> 
>  TVB
> 
> 
> 
>  From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Tammy Van 
> Boening
>  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 12:39 PM
>  To: 'Anjaneai S'
>  Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
>  Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")
> 
> 
> 
>  Anjaneai,
> 
> 
> 
>  I went to the site indicated by the link below and attempted Solution 2, even
> though I have standalone Framemaker. It was not installed as part of an
> application suite.  When I attempt to Deactivate, and then Deactivate
> Permanently, I receive the message "Please connect to the internet to
> deactivate" and I AM connected to the internet. I am unable to deactivate my
> account at all, so I am unable to attempt Solution #2.  Also, I did stop and
> then restart the FlexNet Licensing Services and that did not work either. Like
> others on this, I am unable to use Framemaker 10.
> 
> 
> 
>  TVB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Anjaneai S
>  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 3:47 AM
>  To: Shlomo Perets
>  Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com  
> ;
> techshoret at yahoogroups.com 
>  Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi Shlomo,
> 
>  First of all, a very Happy New Year to all dear Framers!
> 
>  Can you please try the steps suggested here -
> 
> http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-licensing-product-expired-cs4.html
> 
> 
>  Also, please go to start - run - launch - services.msc and look for 'Flexnet
> Licensing Service' and restart/start the service.
> 
>  Please share me your findings.
> 
>  Good luck!
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Anjaneai
> 
>  On Jan 1, 2013 3:06 PM, "Shlomo Perets"   > wrote:
> 
> 
>  As of this morning, when starting FM10 a message indicating "licensing
> expired" shows up, and the program would not run.
>  (likely related to the change of year -- best wishes for 2013!)
> 
>  Other FM10 users in different locations encountered a similar problem.
> 
>  The Adobe chat representative suggested contacting Adobe tech support by
> phone, where I (expectedly) got a "closed for the holiday" message.
> 
>  FM11, FM9 and FM8 do start as expected.
> 
> 
>  Shlomo Perets
> 
>  MicroType, http://www.microtype.com 
>  FrameMaker/Acrobat/Captivate training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat
> TimeSavers/Assistants
> 
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FM 10 Licence Failure

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FWIW, I just wasted 2.5 h today with Adobe Technical support, and they don't
have a clue about what might be causing the FM10 license failure.
We have uninstalled, installed, uninstalled and run the Adobe CS cleaner, then
reinstalled, and gotten exactly nowhere, other than to prove that none of the
known "fixes" work.

My personal suspicion is that some programmer put a "drop-dead" date in the
licensing application used for FM10 only of Jan 1 2013 (or possibly
12:59:59:12:2012), and nobody at Adobe tested for operation beyond that date.
(Reason? All the other applications in TC Suite 3.5 work just fine...)

Wonder if we can bill Adobe for all the lost productivity hours

Seriously annoyed (but probably not as annoyed as Tom Aldous is going to be...)

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Re: OT: Index page ranges

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My suspicion is that it was to save space/typesetting time; there may be a
standard as well (isn't there always? g)

Grant


On September 5, 2012 at 9:15 AM Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

 Hi Framers,

 This is more of a curiosity than anything. I was browsing the index in a
 book last night and I noticed that at the end of page ranges, common numbers
 are suppressed. For example 244-7 instead of 244-247 and 138-41 instead of
 138-141. Is this simply to save space, or is there some kind of style
 recommendation for this? Thanks for any insight.

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Question about char tag override indicator

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Hey all.. got a puzzler for you.



In FM10, I have a document that has character tags.  One of these is bold, which
has everything set to as-is but the font weight.

For some reason, when I apply the tag, it's always marked with an asterisk, even
if I apply Default Para Font first, and then Bold.

Saving the doc doesn't seem to change the indicator either.



Any idea what might be happening, other than a bug in FM?



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My suspicion is that it was to save space/typesetting time; there may be a
standard as well (isn't there always? )

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On September 5, 2012 at 9:15 AM Rick Quatro  wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>
> This is more of a curiosity than anything. I was browsing the index in a
> book last night and I noticed that at the end of page ranges, common numbers
> are suppressed. For example 244-7 instead of 244-247 and 138-41 instead of
> 138-141. Is this simply to save space, or is there some kind of style
> recommendation for this? Thanks for any insight.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro
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> 585-283-5045
> rick at frameexpert.com
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Question about char tag override indicator

[gr...@hedgewizard.net]

Hey all.. got a puzzler for you.



In FM10, I have a document that has character tags.  One of these is bold, which
has everything set to "as-is" but the font weight.

For some reason, when I apply the tag, it's always marked with an asterisk, even
if I apply "Default Para Font" first, and then "Bold".

Saving the doc doesn't seem to change the indicator either.



Any idea what might be happening, other than a bug in FM?



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Re: Positioning Caption Under Run-in Figure

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I would use a 1-column, 2-cell table to do this.

Grant


On May 24, 2012 at 7:48 AM Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hi, all.

 I'm working in FM 10 in a Win 7 environment.

 I have placed some tall, thin graphics in an anchored frame that is run into
 the paragraph and positioned Left on the page. The text flows down the right
 side of the graphic.

 Everything works beautifully except I can't figure out how to keep the caption
 with the graphic. Sometimes the text is not as tall as the graphic, so I would
 have to use a series of returns to move the cursor down to beneath the
 anchored frame, and enter the caption there. This is do-able but clunky and
 prone to problems if the text is ever edited.

 I therefore created a text frame inside the anchored frame and put the caption
 there, which works physically but breaks the hyperlinks to the cross-reference
 in the text (See Figure X.) For the time being, I've deleted the x-refs,
 since they aren't really necessary in such an obvious page layout. (But one of
 my reviewers is absolutely going to say, where's the 'See Figure X' Be
 copnsistent! Consistency above all else!!)

 How can I get a caption with working hyperlinks positioned directly under the
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I would use a 1-column, 2-cell table to do this.

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On May 24, 2012 at 7:48 AM Nancy Allison  wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> I'm working in FM 10 in a Win 7 environment.
>
> I have placed some tall, thin graphics in an anchored frame that is run into
> the paragraph and positioned Left on the page. The text flows down the right
> side of the graphic.
>
> Everything works beautifully except I can't figure out how to keep the caption
> with the graphic. Sometimes the text is not as tall as the graphic, so I would
> have to use a series of returns to move the cursor down to beneath the
> anchored frame, and enter the caption there. This is do-able but clunky and
> prone to problems if the text is ever edited.
>
> I therefore created a text frame inside the anchored frame and put the caption
> there, which works physically but breaks the hyperlinks to the cross-reference
> in the text "(See Figure X.") For the time being, I've deleted the x-refs,
> since they aren't really necessary in such an obvious page layout. (But one of
> my reviewers is absolutely going to say, "where's the 'See Figure X' Be
> copnsistent! Consistency above all else!!")
>
> How can I get a caption with working hyperlinks positioned directly under the
> anchored frame?
> 
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Re: icons on new Macs

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Alternatively, you could extract the FM icon from the FM DLL, (or screencap it)
save it as a graphic, and then assign that graphic for the link in Snow
Leopard
 
Grant
 


On December 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM Scott Turner qui...@airmail.net wrote:

 Can't without an pperable copy of Frame. If you are running Frame in boot camp
 or a virtualization program then the icons might appear, otherwise you need to
 assign a system icon to the files. Candy Bar might work. It would require a
 little graphic work though.

 http://panic.com/candybar/

 Scott

 On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Graeme R Forbes graeme.for...@colorado.edu
 wrote:

  Does anyone know how to get FM7 (and earlier) document icons to appear on
  the desktop on Macs without Classic? On my new intel iMac running Snow
  Leopard I see that the icons for some OS9 apps like PageMill appear
  correctly, but all I get for FrameMaker docs is an ugly generic icon.
 
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On December 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM Scott Turner  wrote:

> Can't without an pperable copy of Frame. If you are running Frame in boot camp
> or a virtualization program then the icons might appear, otherwise you need to
> assign a system icon to the files. Candy Bar might work. It would require a
> little graphic work though.
>
> http://panic.com/candybar/
>
> Scott
>
> On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Graeme R Forbes 
> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know how to get FM7 (and earlier) document icons to appear on
> > the desktop on Macs without Classic? On my new intel iMac running Snow
> > Leopard I see that the icons for some OS9 apps like PageMill appear
> > correctly, but all I get for FrameMaker docs is an ugly generic icon.
> >
> > Thanks,
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Re: FM10 does not output Adobe PDF

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FWIW, I was told (and I hope incorrectly) by an Adobe support person that FM10
requires the installation of a stand-alone copy of Acrobat to produce PDFs.  So
I'm using a 3rd-party app with GhostScript to produce my PDFs rather than
sending Adobe more money for something that should have been included in the FM
package.
 
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 request for filename selected, however, it prints, there are no error
 messages, and I can't find the file. If I save the file as PDF, it saves OK,
 however, I can't get the bookmarks that way. Can someone tell me if there is a
 setting that I don't have correct. This worked fine on FM9.
 Thank You,
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Re: Adobe ExportPDF

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MIF2GO is an excellent product, well-maintained and well-supported.  I've been a
happy user of it for many many years.


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 I'm not familiar with Adobe ExportPDF, but we use Mif2Go to convert FM to
 Word, and it works wonderfully well. If you can't find the solution that you
 want with Adobe ExportPDF, check out Mif2Go.
 
 Nadine
 
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  Subject: Adobe ExportPDF
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 1:52 PM
  
  
  
  
  Hi Framers,
  
   
  Has anyone taken a gander at this product/service yet? I'm occasionally
  plagued by co-workers who want editable Word versions of docs I create in
  Frame. The Frame export to RTF leaves a whole lot to be desired and I'm
  wondering if this new thing will produce a better formatted RTF file. Anyone
  know what the limitations are? Does it choke on master pages and graphics?
  
  
  
  Needless to say, the FAQs on the Adobe site aren't the questions I'd be
  asking. 
  
  
   
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FM10 does not output Adobe PDF

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FWIW, I was told (and I hope incorrectly) by an Adobe support person that FM10
requires the installation of a stand-alone copy of Acrobat to produce PDFs.? So
I'm using a 3rd-party app with GhostScript to produce my PDFs rather than
sending Adobe more money for something that should have been included in the FM
package.
?
Grant?



On May 6, 2011 at 9:14 AM bruce.macarthur at vsea.com wrote:


> Hello,
> I just loaded FM10 on Windows 7 64. I tried to print to Adobe PDF. I have the
> request for filename selected, however, it prints, there are no error
> messages, and I can't find the file. If I save the file as PDF, it saves OK,
> however, I can't get the bookmarks that way. Can someone tell me if there is a
> setting that I don't have correct. This worked fine on FM9.
> Thank You,
> Bruce
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Adobe ExportPDF

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MIF2GO is an excellent product, well-maintained and well-supported.? I've been a
happy user of it for many many years.


Grant




On May 6, 2011 at 12:09 PM Writer  wrote:


> I'm not familiar with Adobe ExportPDF, but we use Mif2Go to convert FM to
> Word, and it works wonderfully well. If you can't find the solution that you
> want with Adobe ExportPDF, check out Mif2Go.
> 
> Nadine
> 
> --- On Fri, 5/6/11, Susan Modlin wrote:
> 
> > 
> > From: Susan Modlin 
> > Subject: Adobe ExportPDF
> > To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
> > Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 1:52 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Framers,
> > 
> > ?
> > Has anyone taken a gander at this product/service yet? I'm occasionally
> > plagued by co-workers who want editable Word versions of docs I create in
> > Frame. The Frame export to RTF leaves a whole lot to be desired and I'm
> > wondering if this new thing will produce a better formatted RTF file. Anyone
> > know what the limitations are? Does it choke on master pages and graphics?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Needless to say, the "FAQs" on the Adobe site aren't the questions I'd be
> > asking.?
> > 
> > 
> > ?
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > ?
> > ...Susan
> > 
> > ??
> > "When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it."
> > ?? Scott Adams
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