Re: Choosing a Help Format

winhlp32.exe is a viewer for WinHelp (.hlp) files, which format was supplanted by MS HTML Help (.chm) years ago. We're talking about Microsoft Help Container (.mshc). On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM, gr...@hedgewizard.net wrote: > Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer.

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...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:23 AM To: gr...@hedgewizard.net; Robert Lauriston Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format Thanks for the suggestion, Grant, but I’m not

Re: Choosing a Help Format

Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do still distribute it , albeit with some fairly scary warnings. There is an alternative viewer: Help Explorer Viewer (

Choosing a Help Format

framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format I haven?t kept up with this thread; has anyone mentioned Flare Help Viewer? It is much more modern than CHM, and runs in .Net 4.0 (required). Worth a trial. Jack DeLand, CSM | 734 972 3026 (cell) | jack.deland (skype) | http://www.li

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hedgewizard.net [mailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:48 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do

Choosing a Help Format

winhlp32.exe is a viewer for WinHelp (.hlp) files, which format was supplanted by MS HTML Help (.chm) years ago. We're talking about Microsoft Help Container (.mshc). On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM, grant at hedgewizard.net wrote: > Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help view

Choosing a Help Format

lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:23 AM To: grant at hedgewizard.net; Robert Lauriston Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format Thanks for the suggestion, Grant, but I?m

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c: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format I haven’t kept up with this thread; has anyone mentioned Flare Help Viewer? It is much more modern than CHM, and runs in .Net 4.0 (required). Worth a trial. Jack DeLand, CSM | 734 972 3026 (cell) | jack.deland (skype) | http://www.linke

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...@hedgewizard.net [mailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:48 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do still

Choosing a Help Format

Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do still distribute it , albeit with some fairly scary warnings. There is an alternative viewer: Help Explorer Viewer (

Re: Choosing a Help Format

There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one uses that format. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote: > We’ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he’s > helped us realize that I might have been describing our challenge > incorrectly.

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Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Fei Min, Yes, both Omnihelp and OracleHelp for Java are very fast and very flexible. Both the HTML Help Workshop help and Mif2Go Users Guide, discuss how to go about creating the tags necessary to make context

Choosing a Help Format

There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one uses that format. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote: > We?ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he?s > helped us realize that I might have been describing our challenge > incorrectly.

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Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Fei Min, Yes, both Omnihelp and OracleHelp for Java are very fast and very flexible. Both the HTML Help Workshop help and Mif2Go Users Guide, discuss how to go about creating the tags necessary to make context-sensitive

Choosing a Help Format

to include it next time. Fei Min From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:43 AM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Fei Min, Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that

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7:43 AM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format   Fei Min, Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that difficult to decompile a CHM, make a change, and recompile. How many do? I produce OracleHelp for Java from Frame sourc

Choosing a Help Format

7:43 AM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format ? Fei Min, Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that difficult to decompile a CHM, make a change, and recompile. How many do? I produce OracleHelp for Java from Frame s

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to include it next time. Fei Min From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:43 AM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Fei Min, Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that diff

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rt Lauriston Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a use cas

Choosing a Help Format

rt Lauriston Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a u

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ontrary. > > Fei Min > > -Original Message- > From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On > Behalf Of Robert Lauriston > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM > To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Choosing a

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I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a use case where it would make sense. Why would users mess with your help files? On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote: > And we weren't worr

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opinions to the contrary. Fei Min -Original Message- From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format I ag

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Original Message From: Fei Min Lorente Date: Fri, November 22, 2013 10:53 am And we weren't worried about OmniHelp losing files; we are worried about users going in and messing with them. Is there any way to lock them down? > Security through obscurity: how in the heck will any

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it behave now. I've given up on it. - Original Message - From: "Fei Min Lorente" To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:10:53 PM Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format We're using C# in Visual Studio. It's good to know th

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..@gmail.com] On > Behalf Of Robert Lauriston > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:01 PM > To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format > > If you've already got MIF2Go generating EclipseHelp, how your docs are > structured is o

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. > > Fei Min > > -Original Message- > From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:51 PM > To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format > > By "structured", do you mean DITA

Re: Choosing a Help Format

If you have an index and context-sensitive help already in EclipseHelp, you should be able to generate those with OmniHelp without having to modify your FrameMaker source at all. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

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OmniHelp is web help. "Web help" is not a standard format but a generic term for help deliverables that use HTML and JavaScript. RoboHelp, Flare, and WebWorks ePublisher all have their own proprietary versions of web help, in some cases several versions. Which language in Visual Studio? It support

Choosing a Help Format

7;ll take this question to the eclipse_tw group. Fei Min -Original Message- From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Fei Min Lorente Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:41:52

Choosing a Help Format

ontrary. > > Fei Min > > -Original Message- > From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauriston at gmail.com] On > Behalf Of Robert Lauriston > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM > To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Choos

Choosing a Help Format

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:53:28 +, Fei Min Lorente wrote: >More clarification: we're planning to just set up a >button or a menu item in the VS-based user interface >that triggers the help system, and the help system >will run in its own application not in VS, so we >shouldn't be forced to

RE: Choosing a Help Format

opinions to the contrary. Fei Min -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format I agree with Jer

Choosing a Help Format

Original Message From: Fei Min Lorente Date: Fri, November 22, 2013 10:53 am And we weren't worried about OmniHelp losing files; we are worried about users going in and messing with them. Is there any way to lock them down? > Security through obscurity: how in the heck will any

Choosing a Help Format

I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a use case where it would make sense. Why would users mess with your help files? On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote: > And we weren't worr

Re: Choosing a Help Format

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:53:28 +, Fei Min Lorente wrote: >More clarification: we're planning to just set up a >button or a menu item in the VS-based user interface >that triggers the help system, and the help system >will run in its own application not in VS, so we >shouldn't be forced to

RE: Choosing a Help Format

7;ll take this question to the eclipse_tw group. Fei Min -Original Message- From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Fei Min Lorente Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:41:52

Choosing a Help Format

it behave now. I've given up on it. - Original Message - From: "Fei Min Lorente" To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:10:53 PM Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format We're using C# in Visual Studio. It's good to know th

Choosing a Help Format

ember-21-13 2:11 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format We're using C# in Visual Studio. It's good to know that the index and context markers in FrameMaker will translate to OmniHelp. And yes, as an experiment, I output MS HTML Help from FM using Mif2Go, and as

Choosing a Help Format

h RoboHelp? Fei Min -Original Message- From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:01 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format If you've a

Choosing a Help Format

Not DITA. It's our own DTD. Fei Min -Original Message- From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:51 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format By "structured", do you mean DITA or som

Choosing a Help Format

I've got documentation in structured FrameMaker 10 and Mif2Go. I've produced Eclipse Help routinely in the past, but for the first time, we're creating a user interface in Visual Studio. We want to integrate the Help so that a button or menu item in the UI will open a Help window, complete with

Choosing a Help Format

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:41:52 +, Fei Min Lorente wrote: >I've got documentation in structured FrameMaker 10 and Mif2Go. I've produced >Eclipse Help routinely in the past, but for the first time, we're creating a >user interface in Visual Studio. We want to integrate the Help so that a >butt

Re: Choosing a Help Format

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:41:52 +, Fei Min Lorente wrote: >I've got documentation in structured FrameMaker 10 and Mif2Go. I've produced >Eclipse Help routinely in the past, but for the first time, we're creating a >user interface in Visual Studio. We want to integrate the Help so that a >but

RE: Choosing a Help Format

November-21-13 2:11 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format We're using C# in Visual Studio. It's good to know that the index and context markers in FrameMaker will translate to OmniHelp. And yes, as an experiment, I output MS HTML Help from FM using Mif2Go, and aside from

Choosing a Help Format

ton at gmail.com] On > Behalf Of Robert Lauriston > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:01 PM > To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format > > If you've already got MIF2Go generating EclipseHelp, how your docs are > structu

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h RoboHelp? Fei Min -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:01 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format If you've alread

Choosing a Help Format

. > > Fei Min > > -Original Message- > From: Writer [mailto:generic668 at yahoo.ca] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:51 PM > To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format > > By "structured", do y

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Not DITA. It's our own DTD. Fei Min -Original Message- From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:51 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format By "structured", do you mean DITA or som

Choosing a Help Format

If you have an index and context-sensitive help already in EclipseHelp, you should be able to generate those with OmniHelp without having to modify your FrameMaker source at all.

Choosing a Help Format

OmniHelp is web help. "Web help" is not a standard format but a generic term for help deliverables that use HTML and JavaScript. RoboHelp, Flare, and WebWorks ePublisher all have their own proprietary versions of web help, in some cases several versions. Which language in Visual Studio? It support

Re: Choosing a Help Format

By "structured", do you mean DITA or some other type of structured content? Nadine > >I’ve got documentation in structured FrameMaker 10 and Mif2Go. I’ve produced >Eclipse Help routinely in the past, but for the first time, we’re creating a >user interface in Visual Studio. We want to integrat

Choosing a Help Format

By "structured", do you mean DITA or some other type of structured content? Nadine > >I?ve got documentation in structured FrameMaker 10 and Mif2Go. I?ve produced >Eclipse Help routinely in the past, but for the first time, we?re creating a >user interface in Visual Studio. We want to integrat

Choosing a Help Format

I've got documentation in structured FrameMaker 10 and Mif2Go. I've produced Eclipse Help routinely in the past, but for the first time, we're creating a user interface in Visual Studio. We want to integrate the Help so that a button or menu item in the UI will open a Help window, complete with