Best practice is to use a version control system such as Subversion.
Gives you the performance of local files, all the advantages of
network sharing, plus additional advantages.
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM, rebecca officer
wrote:
> Hi Gary
>
> That's interesting. It sounds very like the probl
About the network switch over. We have just done that and how well
applications play depends upon what protocols and configurations are set
up, and how switches are managed (oh so many variables).
Certainly, when we had Novell (which served well for decades) it had an
annoying habit of resetti
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> a...@alphabyte.co.nz<mailto:a...@alphabyte.co.nz>;
> poshe...@bellsouth.net<mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net>;
> framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a proble
rameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed
Zaeem
> Hosain
> (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:43 A
> M
> To: Dov Isaacs; Alan T Litchfield; framers@lists.frameusersWhat you
say
> below is indeed what I would expect, and w
ary 16, 2013 2:02 PM
> To: isa...@adobe.com; kve...@adobe.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net;
> a...@alphabyte.co.nz; poshe...@bellsouth.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
>
> Hi Ken
>
> I'm the
No more problems (so far).
OK?
-- Ken
From: Kapil Verma
To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" ;
Dov
Isaacs ; Alan T Litchfield ;
"framers@lists.frameusers.com"
Sent: Fri, February 15, 2013 7:33:39 AM
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker h
quot;Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" ; Dov Isaacs ; Alan T Litchfield
; "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Fri, February 15, 2013 7:33:39 AMSubject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Hello Everyone, Hope you are well. Well, there h
Ken,
I think you are wrong. The tone has not been argumentative, but
several people (myself included) have merely been saying the same/
similar things.
Now, if your co-worker is still experiencing problems with opening
files across the network then you need to look at the local
installat
acs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com]
Sent: 2013-02-14-Thursday 16:05
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Stamm, David-P45904; techw...@techwr-l.com
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
All,
Sorry I couldn't respond to this thread earlier. Driving
n Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:43 AM
To: Dov Isaacs; Alan T Litchfield; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Hi, Dov.
What you say below is indeed what I would e
On 2013-02-14 14:44, Ken Poshedly wrote:
I posted my first frameusers list inquiry Wednesday morning, but never
saw it or any replies for quite sometime.
After waiting an hour or so and not seeing either my message or any
replies on the frameusers list, I posted to the techwr-l e-mail list
(and
...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Poshedly
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:17 PM
> *To:* dave.st...@gdc4s.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com;
> techw...@techwr-l.com
> *Subject:* Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!*
> ***
>
bs, Richard"
To: Ken Poshedly ; "framers@lists.frameusers.com"
Cc: "techw...@techwr-l.com"
Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 4:39:30 PM
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Ken Poshedly wrote:
> Fourth, my coworker has experienced n
nt, but as I also said, I will be glad to provide this rep's name and e-mail address so any of you can follow up with him on your own.-- Ken in AtlantaFrom: Dov Isaacs To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Cc: "techw...@techwr-l.com" Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 4:08:42 PM
rom: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:17 PM
To: dave.st...@gdc4s.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; techw...@techwr-l.com
Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must q
: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:24 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Alan T Litchfield;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Importance: High
With regards to network folders and drives, Adobe software in
Ken Poshedly wrote:
> Of COURSE things work faster when all are on the same drive -- I just happen
> to mention it here.
I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear. That's not what I said -- or meant. What's
faster is reading from or writing to a drive that's _inside your PC_ and
_directly connected_
Ken Poshedly wrote:
> Fourth, my coworker has experienced no FM crashes since moving his work files
> to
> his hard drive where his FM program files are also located. Also, his files
> now
> seem to open and process far faster than before. Go figure.
Go figure? You really find it surprising tha
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
I think that there may be some confusion about local vs. network
folders/drives. Perhaps I read too much into Ken's responses from the Adobe
tech!
In my case, all application e
FICE.corp.adobe.com
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:12 PM
To: Alan T Litchfield
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must q
@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:50 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; techw...@techwr-l.com
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
2013-02-13-03T19:50Z
¡_YIKES_!
If Ken was informed correctly,
Yes, well, some of us remember using a punch card and a knitting needle.
You stabbed the card bundle somewhere along the edge with the knitting
needle, shook the deck, and the ones that fell out were the ones you
wanted. More sophisticated systems used two knitting needles, which was
the upper
ot;framers@lists.frameusers.com"
Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 7:27:22 AM
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield
>
> Ther
; FrameMaker Users List
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
> I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103,
> 5985284
>
> I've figured out that it's something to do wi
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:41:28 -0800, "Combs, Richard"
> wrote:
>All the geezers who cut their teeth on
>VT-100s may now begin reminiscing.
My first one was an ASR-33 TTY. Really.
Rolls of paper and UPPER-CASE ONLY. 110
baud, which gave you 10 characters per
second. The Hazeltine "glass t
uary 13, 2013 4:41 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; FrameMaker Users List
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
> I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103,
> 5985284
>
> I've f
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield
>
> There is some weird behaviour on the list this morning. I seem to be getting
> the
> messages in discontinuous threads and out of order.
Probably because the convers
Log files and errors are often only for
the engineers who created the product. Unfortunately, technical
writers aren't involved in that process. If technical writers
would be involved, they probably would add "The following error
codes are for Adobe technicians on
Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
> I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103,
> 5985284
>
> I've figured out that it's something to do with WinXP because working on
> another terminal running Win7,
>
> From: framers-boun...@lists.f
Robert Lauriston wrote:
> Note that Ken and his coworker were able to reproduce the problem.
>
> Sometimes FrameMaker has problems using source files are on network
> file servers, sometimes it doesn't. If you've experienced no problems,
> count yourself lucky.
The problems with files on networ
Adobe support said working on local copies was the workaround for the problem.
That's not the same as saying that FrameMaker can't work with files on
a network drive, just a tacit admission that the implementation is
buggy. There's nothing FM11-specific about that. You can find lots of
examples on
, 7732533, 7724103, 5985284 one and the
second is 11014, 8122692, 8122986, 10866485 about 10 secs after the first.
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:15 P
, 2013 4:15 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Good demonstration of how finicky FM is about networks and how hard
those problems can be to diagnose.
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Jeff Coatsworth
wrote:
> I'm gett
Good demonstration of how finicky FM is about networks and how hard
those problems can be to diagnose.
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Jeff Coatsworth
wrote:
> I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103,
> 5985284
>
> I've figured out that it's something to do wi
Hi Kapil
As in the Framer's post below, Ken's been told by Adobe support that FM11 isn't
happy with working across networked drives. This has - not surprisingly -
created consternation on the list. It seems very unlikely to be true, but can
you please reply and confirm or deny it?
Many thanks
ght just stay with it, eh?
-- Ken in Atlanta
From: "dave.st...@gdc4s.com"
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; techw...@techwr-l.com
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:52:16 PM
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
2013-02-13-03T19:50Z
Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:28 AM
To: Fred Ridder; rob...@lauriston.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com;
techw...@techwr-l.com
Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
My coworker did the following (with my help as I followe
There is some weird behaviour on the list this morning. I seem to be
getting the messages in discontinuous threads and out of order.
It's like listening to a conversation in a bar.
Alan
On 14/02/13 9:09 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
Note that Ken and his coworker were able to reproduce the prob
Now about those questions.
On 14/02/13 3:48 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
So the questions:
* What do those internal error numbers specifically mean?
I have no idea and don't really want to know.
* Is/are the error/errors caused by a hardware problem or a software
problem?
Looking at t
I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103,
5985284
I've figured out that it's something to do with WinXP because working on
another terminal running Win7, doing exactly the same things with the same
files doesn't get the error at all. I seem to run into it when
I'm not sure exactly what they were trying to explain, but I'm not aware of any
changes in FM's ability to work with files across networks. In fact, FM has
been able to use HTTP locations for linked files for multiple versions now.
Sounds like the tech support person was grabbing at straws.
-M
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Keep calm
and
Make Frames
I would have to say that the person Ken spoke to must be a tech-idiot, but that
would not be the first I have spoken to at Adobe (re previous discuss
; techw...@techwr-l.com
Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Syed,
In our case:
* The C-drive is the hard drive on our own desktop computer and is where FM is
installed.
* The network drive is not a partition of the desktop hard drive, but instead a
; an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies
>> of the original message.
>>
>> *From:*framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Syed Zaeem
>> Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
>> *S
Note that Ken and his coworker were able to reproduce the problem.
Sometimes FrameMaker has problems using source files are on network
file servers, sometimes it doesn't. If you've experienced no problems,
count yourself lucky.
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Alan T Litchfield
wrote:
> If it w
llsouth.net"
; "rob...@lauriston.com" ;
"framers@lists.frameusers.com" ;
"techw...@techwr-l.com"
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:24:07 PM
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Pos
I haven't worked anywhere without source control in years, but before
that, I encountered so many problems editing FrameMaker files on
network shared drives that I eventually decided it was easier to work
on a local copy.
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
> 1. Copied the entir
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly
mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
> I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions
> in
> FrameMaker 11.0 have been modifi
From: Fred Ridder
To: poshe...@bellsouth.net; rob...@lauriston.com;
"framers@lists.frameusers.com"
; techw...@techwr-l.com
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:01:54 PM
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Actually, there is *less* to it than that.
; rob...@lauriston.com;
"framers@lists.frameusers.com"
; techw...@techwr-l.com
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 12:28:30 PM
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
Note that creation of a .lck file is an option that the user can turn on or
off.
to
> do before. Capisce?
>
> -- Ken in Atlanta
>
>
>
> From: Robert Lauriston
> To: Ken Poshedly ; framers@lists.frameusers.com;
> TECHWR-L
> Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 12:11:02 PM
> Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a p
: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
That's a pretty radical change. Does FM11 not create .lck files when
you open an .fm file?
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
> I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions
in
That's a pretty radical change. Does FM11 not create .lck files when
you open an .fm file?
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
> I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions
> in
> FrameMaker 11.0 have been modified so that the data files should a
FWIW,
I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions in
FrameMaker 11.0 have been modified so that the data files should also be on the
same hard drive where FM 11.0 is installed. Working across drives (FM here,
data
files there) is no longer an accepted practice
esday 14:24
*To:* Fred Ridder; poshe...@bellsouth.net; rob...@lauriston.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com; techw...@techwr-l.com
*Subject:* RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net>> wr
esday 14:24
To: Fred Ridder; poshe...@bellsouth.net; rob...@lauriston.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com; techw...@techwr-l.com
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
> I just learned from Adobe t
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly
mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
> I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions
> in
> FrameMaker 11.0 have been modified so that the data files should also be on
> the
> same hard drive where FM 11.0 is installe
at it's been named and where
it's been located in every version from 5.5.6 through 9, which is what I'm
currently using).
-Fred Ridder
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:16:06 -0800
> From: poshe...@bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must
y version from 5.5.6 through 9, which is what I'm
currently using).
-Fred Ridder
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:16:06 -0800
> From: poshe...@bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!
> To: rob...@lauriston.com; framers@li
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